Putin: the capacity of enterprises in the reduction of the defense order should not be idle

With the reduction of the state defense order can not be allowed to reduce the efficiency of defense enterprises, reports RIA News Statement by Russian President Vladimir Putin.

It is necessary to monitor this very carefully, to help enterprises, to help industries appropriately, so that when the state defense order is reduced, the production capacity in which we invested more than 3 trillion rubles did not stand idle, but worked effectively,

said the president at a meeting with members of the government.

He noted good results in the field of defense orders and separately thanked the Ministry of Industry for them. This work was done in contact with the security forces.

Now, I hope that this will not only affect the defense of the state, it will also affect the civilian sectors of production. There is such a task, we all know this well,

Putin added.

According to him, in this area it is necessary to focus "on the highest world standards," so that civilian products are in demand "not only within our economy, but could be promoted to foreign markets."

The mechanisms are well known here; all that is needed is that they are used on time and efficiently.

stressed the president.

Comments

[The Siberian barber]

Well, honestly, it would be better not to insert this photo in the title! (
Trio of "handsome"! ((
They think about the people ....
Today, in the morning, I stopped at a gas station, and again a surprise: 95 gasoline 42.40 ... ((zadolbali, honestly

[kot28.ru]

We have a DT-45
3 times a month raised

[The Siberian barber]

Every day, 10 kopecks. ((
"Creeping" ... (

[maxim947]

Putin: the capacity of enterprises in the reduction of the defense order should not be idle

Anecdote: How does the ensign stop the train? - Wait! One-Two!
So it is here, ... He said - and the question itself was solved. The general directors, as it were, did not know before that it was necessary to load production to the fullest extent possible. So damn give orders or something else they will not be idle.

[Herman 4223]

Imagine they don’t know, or rather they don’t care, even if there are extra capacities, the plants are in no hurry to try to do something else, except for the products whose production has already been established. There are sales well, there are no people and no problems. .

[dorz]

With a reduction in state defense orders, we cannot allow a decrease in the efficiency of the defense industry enterprises

Tanks - Conversion - Pans ...

[Bosch]

They think about the people around the clock.

[spirit]

Volodya says the economy is growing without laughter Siluanov about the economy can no longer

[Sergey53]

And who does not agree with this statement of the question. Everything is only FOR. Still, it is FOR the fact that the government needs to maintain a work style that allows it to effectively solve problems. Only the style is not visible, and no solutions. We really have the DECREASING scale of poverty of Russians, but why is there no one to blame for this? And why are taxes for the population, and amnesty for oligarchs?

[twviewer]

The mechanisms are known here, it is only necessary that they be used in time and effectively.

Bankruptcy and development land? or in the old fashion, first go to the pots ??

[The Siberian barber]

What are you, what are you ?? !!!
We all "approve" !!!
"Stability Above All !!"

[voyaka uh]

"so that civilian products are in demand
"Not only within our economy, but could also be promoted to foreign markets." "///

Doubtful.
OPK products cannot be pushed into civilian foreign markets because most
defense industry firms under sanctions. Private owners are afraid to buy from them. Only some states
on government orders.

[Vadim237]

So they will buy their own.

[voyaka uh]

Yes, I am for it. Usually they do this: they divide the military firm into two. One becomes
civilian branch. There is no secrecy stamp in it, it can buy
start-ups (what if something happens?). Risk, do ...
But this is despite the fact that the military “Brand” helps in the pursuits (“yes, here we are cool -
the army buys from us! "), but does not interfere ...

[Tusv]

Quote: voyaka uh

DIC products cannot be pushed into civilian foreign markets, because most DIC firms are sanctioned

It's not a problem. A daughter is created and all business

[groks]

What should this help be expressed? And he only talks about graduates of finished equipment. And here we are doing the components. They are not going to help us. Graduates now have to master the full cycle? From caterpillars to electronics.
And what does this reduction mean in general? Where did it go? No money for equipment? So where are they from for "help"?
Pre-election brechology. Yes, and even without meaning, since in the election of President Putin, the winner is predictable by 146%.

[Vadim237]

But the budget paid 800 billion rubles of debts of defense industry enterprises so that they could fulfill the defense order, some defense industry enterprises are simply not competitive, and even unprofitable, like the Kurganmash Plant example - it doesn’t bring any profit, only losses, it doesn’t get out on BMPs alone .

[groks]

And with whom does the military-industrial complex compete? Together? This is insanity. And if you save on defense, then you can then start not to save on which F-35s.
What can drive enterprises into debt, it might be better to calculate right away, since there is no shortage of bookkeepers and immediately determine reasonable prices?
I perfectly remember the results of the previous conversion (God forgive me, even though an atheist). The production of consumer goods fell, which were produced before it began. Since the consumer goods kept afloat only at the expense of the military. Dual-use production has fallen. As a result, consumer goods began to cost unreasonable money, and prices for the remaining military commissar still jumped.

[Simon]

I think that on the basis of the military industry, peaceful products will go of the highest quality, not as much worse than imported, or maybe better! So it will be in demand.

[Sergey53]

Quote: Simon

I think that on the basis of the military industry, peaceful products will go to the highest quality, no less than foreign

I agree. But for this it is necessary for the STATE to lobby our products, as the president of the USA does for example. Contracts, agreements, and much more. And not on the principle of “the cat left the kittens, let everyone live as they want”

[mikh-korsakov]

If only there was a sales market: Siemens, Bosch, Panasonic, etc. .. - we thoroughly mastered our market and would not want to move, they have leverage. And to promote in the foreign market, but who will allow it.

[Sergey53]

So it should be included in the functions of the STATE. And if the STATE cannot or does not want, so what is the demand from enterprises. Without government support, no one is trading.

[34 region]

Simon, 13:42. It was the same with Gorbachev. Looks like ** Disaster-2 **. Privatization will again be effective owners of both investment and technology from the West! It seems that sanctions have already nipped something, some to someone. And already in plain text it says about the unnecessaryness of our defense industry! How the conversion ended under Gorbachev is well known. We must choose Grudinin. Otherwise, Moses Susanin will finally lead us either into the swamp or into the sands.

[mikh-korsakov]

MS Gorbachev - extended and expanded edition. Forgotten motives - dadu-dadu-dadu. Deepen and expand. Mummies, I am wearing fun, I want to please everyone. Seeing me, the children come running. k.ozly sweep the road with his beard, the sheep knock on the drums ,,, So it will continue - I will vote for Grudinin, out of despair, because I do not know what kind of fruit. What he says is appealing to me, but the leverage of keeping promises is incomprehensible, so will it succeed, and will it not get angry?

[The Siberian barber]

Straight, removed from the tongue ...
Acceleration, publicity ..
Something else was- I do not remember ..
"Conversion" ... Instead of rockets, primuses .. (

[The Siberian barber]

I remembered !!
It is necessary to cultivate !!
... And everyone, as usual, nodded their heads ((

[Simon]

Quote: twviewer

The mechanisms are known here, it is only necessary that they be used in time and effectively.

Bankruptcy and development land? or in the old fashion, first go to the pots ??

Yes what you say! In place of tanks, it is possible to produce tractors, combines and tractors. Also in the aviation industry, it is possible to produce civilian aircraft, otherwise we still fly on old AN-2s. Well, and electronics - it can be used everywhere in any industry, otherwise we have Chinese and Korean. About cars - nothing to say at all!

[mikh-korsakov]

Right! Certainly, the enterprises listed by you can produce something. But who will buy them? There is no hope for the state, because our bureaucracy, long ago with all the guts, was bought by foreign firms. I am writing with knowledge of the matter, because at one time I came across this.

[Vadim237]

They will buy everything whom the price-quality criterion suits, and even Japan buys our bulldozers.

[34 region]

Simon, 13:58. Instead of gun barrels, what shall we do? And instead of the automatic loader? And what about the Caliber? Bullshit all this conversion. If military-industrial complex technologies are not used in the civilian sphere, then how will the defense plant work for the civilian? Is there a civil production in the defense industry? Here, rather, someone really, really wants to privatize the defense industry. What will happen then is known.

[Anyone]

All right. In addition, many defense enterprises, research and development enterprises, pilot production research institutes and so on can produce, due to the specifics, only piece products of actually manual assembly. For example, NIIEM and Novator collect Meteor-M. What can they do for competitive conversions? Yes, if tomorrow they even begin to make pots, then these pots will have a cost of gold of the same weight.

[Vadim237]

Yes, not everything is Chinese, the Chinese are buying engines for fighters from Russia, since their own limited motor resources.

[Anyone]

Now, I hope that this will not only affect the defense of the state, it will also affect the civilian sectors of production. There is such a task, we are well aware of this. Putin V.V.

Here the couple recalled:

... in the context of the implementation of economic reforms in the USSR, the most important task is the effective implementation of conversion at defense enterprises. Gorbachev M.S.

On the same rake?

[Sergey53]

Yes, everything is correct, but without the help of the state there will be nothing. The whole problem is that nobody wants to do this at the top. Remember why everyone makes their way to the top? That's all.

[34 region]

Anyone, 14 p.m. It seems that it’s not the rake, but the noose.

[Vadim237]

Fortunately, we do not have a planned economy right now - they will want to earn and produce, they will study the market and the possibilities for producing this or that product.

[34 region]

Vadim 237, 15:10. With a planned economy, you also need to study the market. You can of course calculate the number of Wishlist and release this amount, but then realks will come out. And you get a crisis of overproduction and other problems. They released a cloud of cars, but did not make roads under them, yards are also not provided for such a number of cars. And the problems went. Traffic jams (no one designed or made roads for the growth of cars), lack of parking for such a herd (no one designed or made parking either, like no one designed and did not make such house drives for such a number). And what became better under capitalism? There are more problems. Buy a car (not a problem), stand in a traffic jam, breathe exhaust, look for where to put the car! The USSR could easily saturate the country with cars. But this process was inhibited deliberately. They understood what problems mass motorization would bring. And it seems Kosygin suggested slowing down production, and doing other things. By public transport and roads. And by the 90s it was already full of cars. In the 90s flooded auto trash. Today, buying a car is not a matter of having money (and this is a question for many, but they take loans, and then they frantically sell cars, they do not pull financially). The car factory in Tolyatti was also not just built. I had to create other plants under the technological requirements of FIAT-124. The production of (oil scraper) valve caps was a new technology for the USSR. Engine oil would be higher quality. Today rushing production without quality. There are no GOSTs. Lyapi what you want! Here you are, how are you doing bearings. Do you drill or bend the tape? Today, fans no longer put ball bearings. Are bronze (whether bronze) bushings. Service life for one season. Here is the one who produces such bearings, the business is clearly rushing like by leaps and bounds! Well, where is the high efficiency? No efficiency! Well, besides getting the dough. After a year, people throw out a fan and buy a new one. And how much copper went to the winding? Where is the efficiency? Not all this is wasteful, wasteful.