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China has successfully tested thrust vectoring engine

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In China, for the first time, successful flight tests of an engine of thrust vectoring TASS message portal Sina.




The engine was mounted on the J-10B fighter.

Testing of the Taihang engines with UHT on J-10B fighter jets will provide valuable experience and data that will be used in the future for practical use on the J-20 (China’s fifth-generation fighter)
the report said.

“Information about this modification of the Taihang engine has so far not been received much, however, it is likely that it used nozzle technology with an axisymmetric deviation of the thrust vector, which was previously reported. It allows you to change the thrust vector by 10 degrees in the vertical and horizontal planes, ”writes the resource.

At present, the development of the X-Numx generation J-5 fighter continues in China. In September, it was announced the arrival of this aircraft in service with the Chinese Air Force. According to a number of experts, Russian AL-20F engines were installed on prototypes, however, in the future, Chinese designers intend to replace them with their own counterpart - WS-31.
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  1. Muvka
    Muvka 27 December 2017 12: 42
    +2
    They copied for a long time. But all the same, it will not solve the gluttony and small resource of their engines ...
    1. Shurik70
      Shurik70 27 December 2017 13: 00
      +9
      No, no, no copied !!!
      It is said the original development! There, instead of kerosene-air mixture, air-kerosene is fed!
      laughing
      1. Warrior with machine gun
        Warrior with machine gun 27 December 2017 13: 16
        +4
        all of their original developments were developed by someone else before them, and so in all sectors they put all the licenses and patents (though the stolen one does not always work like the original for them)
        1. Shurik70
          Shurik70 27 December 2017 13: 21
          +3
          Not at all. Even historians agree that gunpowder, rockets and wheelchairs are a Chinese invention. So all the firearms and missiles are stolen and slightly (very slightly) modified Chinese inventions. And no one, by the way, paid the license to the Chinese. Do not think of a license to take.
          laughing
          1. voyaka uh
            voyaka uh 27 December 2017 16: 21
            +2
            If they get a lawsuit against Italy for pasta ??? belay
            Chinese noodles ... century "pasta" does not pay ... crying
          2. Dedall
            Dedall 27 December 2017 20: 04
            +2
            And these historians claim that the Chinese were teachers at Adam and Eve. If I am well paid, I will also begin to say that the city of Chechen Itza was founded by immigrants from the Chechen Republic.
          3. just exp
            just exp 28 December 2017 06: 09
            0
            because historians know. that if they do not agree, they will be fired with a wolf ticket.
            therefore, they will even agree that Gerasim was drowned by Mumu.
    2. Odysseus
      Odysseus 27 December 2017 13: 08
      0
      Quote: Muvka
      They copied for a long time.

      Engines with OVT were not delivered to China until December last year.
      1. Muvka
        Muvka 27 December 2017 13: 21
        0
        Well, maybe I was wrong with that ... But in any case, they did not reach the original. Only 10 degrees mastered. On the Su-35 - 15 degrees max deviation.
        1. Topotun
          Topotun 27 December 2017 14: 01
          +4
          It does not matter that the nozzle deflection angle is smaller, it does not matter that the resource is much smaller. Most importantly, the Chinese have learned to make such engines themselves. Well they will change them more often, what's the problem? Much we began to produce from what they covered for us? We felt that it is easier to buy the left ways. The same turbines, for example.
          1. Muvka
            Muvka 27 December 2017 14: 19
            0
            The problem is that they will be gold. And gold machines, even the United States, do not like money with their printing. And there are no prospects for export at all.
            1. zoolu350
              zoolu350 27 December 2017 16: 08
              +3
              The problem is that the PRC already has this technology, and then it will just be dubbing it to the necessary parameters, because they first do it, and then they shout about success, and not shout about success and do nothing, like the oligarchy of the Russian Federation.
              1. Muvka
                Muvka 27 December 2017 16: 19
                0
                Yes? So how is it? Is their 5th generation fighter already adopted? This is about shouting and doing.
                1. zoolu350
                  zoolu350 27 December 2017 16: 22
                  +1
                  Adopted (j-20) and is improving.
                  1. Muvka
                    Muvka 27 December 2017 16: 25
                    0
                    So how is it? Does it meet all the requirements of the 5th generation?
                    1. zoolu350
                      zoolu350 27 December 2017 16: 31
                      +1
                      To most. The rest will be finished later, this is China.
                      1. Muvka
                        Muvka 27 December 2017 16: 34
                        0
                        For example? The engines are old Soviet, there is no over-maneuverability. AFAR is questioned how strong. Stealth? Not a fact, because they have trouble with high-tech materials. List on what indicators it is 5 generations?
                    2. zoolu350
                      zoolu350 27 December 2017 17: 00
                      0
                      "List by what indicators is it 5 generation?" The question was asked and immediately put in ignore. In the spirit of the slaves of the oligarchy of the Russian Federation. The letter j in the fighter index in the PRC means adoption. It can be inferior in terms of inconspicuity, performance characteristics, weapons, super maneuverability and characteristics of avionics F-22, but this is not critical because it will be improved. China’s industrial capacities also make it possible to mass-produce these fighters for the PLA Air Force and for export abroad, and few can buy SSHM fighters, because they are particularly expensive.
                      1. Muvka
                        Muvka 27 December 2017 17: 14
                        0
                        Which ignore? I never ignore anyone. But can you say nothing in numbers? But infa about the fact that there are Soviet engines - 100%.
                      2. Odysseus
                        Odysseus 27 December 2017 18: 10
                        +2
                        Quote: zoolu350
                        The industrial capacities of China also allow the release of these fighters in droves for the PLA Air Force and for export abroad,

                        There is definitely no export. The Chinese themselves need, and the production of Chinese engines for them (WS-10A) is still quantitatively small, and the engines are put on 3 types of aircraft. When there is WS-15, then there will be even less of them. For their Air Force, they will produce massively enough, but still at a slower pace than the F-35.
                        It is important to note here that the PRC does not compete with us, but with the USA and satellites. So they still have room to grow.
                      3. just exp
                        just exp 28 December 2017 06: 26
                        +1
                        Muvka, do not pay attention to this freshman for propaganda, he even has a propaganda communication style.
        2. Odysseus
          Odysseus 27 December 2017 18: 03
          0
          Quote: Muvka
          Well, maybe I was wrong with that ... But in any case, they did not reach the original.

          They did not copy them. It is physically impossible to get the AL-41F1S and copy them in a year. The development of Taikhan with OVT has been going on for a long time.
          As for the characteristics, it is definitely hard to say, but I believe that it is really inferior. Given that this is their first OB engine, it would be difficult to assume the opposite.
    3. Dead duck
      Dead duck 27 December 2017 14: 02
      +7
      Quote: Muvka
      They copied for a long time. But all the same, it will not solve the gluttony and small resource of their engines ...

      It is not so simple. This is just copying just the tip of the iceberg.
      The Chinese have a small nomenclature of metals (alloys) ... materials.
      From "one siluminium" you can’t make everything.
      In Soviet times, it was not in vain that they were conceived.
      1. Muvka
        Muvka 27 December 2017 14: 20
        +1
        Well, I think the design also can not be copied 100%. But I do not argue that the basis of their failures is materials.
      2. voyaka uh
        voyaka uh 27 December 2017 15: 33
        +2
        Cracks absolutely everything. This is just how much
        laboratories are engaged in splitting one alloy in parallel and simultaneously.
        1. Dead duck
          Dead duck 27 December 2017 16: 16
          +6
          Quote: voyaka uh
          Cracks absolutely everything. This is just how much
          laboratories are engaged in splitting one alloy in parallel and simultaneously.

          It’s just to find out the recipe for the neighbor’s pies.
          In parallel, a lot of processes start up and work.
          Registration, registration, launch, etc., etc.
          This is not a sign on the house to change.
          In a single copy, much can be done (despite the price).
      3. ZVO
        ZVO 27 December 2017 16: 56
        +3
        Quote: Deadush

        The Chinese have a small nomenclature of metals (alloys) ... materials.
        From "one siluminium" you can’t make everything.
        In Soviet times, it was not in vain that they were conceived.


        Do you even know what product range is made in China?
        More than half of all automotive components. who go to the conveyor - Chinese.
        99% of auto repair parts are actually manufactured in China.
        China produces 700 million tons of steel annually, of which 100 million tons are exported.
        Each foundry in the world is trying to start its own factory in China, and accordingly shares the entire production technology with the Chinese.

        After 10 years - China will shoot so much that it will technologically exceed the order of America and Japan, and by 2 orders of magnitude Modern Russia
        1. Odysseus
          Odysseus 27 December 2017 18: 18
          +2
          Quote: ZVO
          After 10 years - China will shoot so much that it will technologically exceed the order of America and Japan, and by 2 orders of magnitude Modern Russia

          With technology in China, and now everything is in order. But an order of magnitude this is 10 times. Then you gave a blunder.
          Quote: ZVO
          Do you even know what product range is made in China?

          People just have complexes. They can be understood. Even 30 years ago we were an industrialized power and looked at them with a smile. Now, it buys everything from them, including drills and hammers. There is something to be sad about.
          But it’s psychologically easier for people to deny reality than to realize that this is not the problem of the Chinese, this is our problem and it must be solved in our country.
          1. ZVO
            ZVO 27 December 2017 19: 29
            +5
            Quote: Odyssey
            Quote: ZVO
            After 10 years - China will shoot so much that it will technologically exceed the order of America and Japan, and by 2 orders of magnitude Modern Russia

            With technology in China, and now everything is in order. But an order of magnitude this is 10 times. Then you gave a blunder.


            Excuse me. but I’m just a little “half-educated” I know how Chinese universities have been developing over the past 15 years ...
            Therefore, I give only 10 years ...
            And yes. Two orders of magnitude.
            They are the explosive growth of science and technology.
            With the new technological revolution, all previous world achievements are completed in one to three years, simply "walking in passing."
            They are moving toward a larger goal.
            Do not "catch up and overtake." and "to become utterly superior to all" ...
            Today, December 27.12.2017, XNUMX, a human head transplant operation is underway in China.
            This unattainable level is already absolutely for all physicians of the world.
            And this is not the Chinese (of course we understand this) level of technology - this is the level of their moral readiness for technology.
            They already consider themselves above all technologically ...
            And they are right.
        2. Dead duck
          Dead duck 27 December 2017 21: 45
          +6
          Quote: ZVO
          Do you even know what product range is made in China?

          And you are aware that the range of products and materials is different and it is quite possible to get by with a "narrow list" of materials, which the Chinese are doing. But not always successfully ....
          you can’t argue against the laws of physics.
    4. Sergey53
      Sergey53 27 December 2017 14: 19
      0
      Quote: Muvka
      They copied for a long time. But all the same, it will not solve the gluttony and small resource of their engines ...

      They at least ssy in the eye, all God's dew. They live by the principle "And Vaska listens and eats."
    5. kamski
      kamski 28 December 2017 06: 21
      0
      In this regard, technology is being decided by the PRC in a more developed country, and very soon the engines will be better than Russian ones.
  2. Shura Perm
    Shura Perm 27 December 2017 12: 42
    +4
    Our next technology mastered, sad
  3. _Ugene_
    _Ugene_ 27 December 2017 12: 45
    +4
    not for nothing bought SU-35
    1. Sergey53
      Sergey53 27 December 2017 14: 20
      0
      So for these purposes and bought.
  4. Odysseus
    Odysseus 27 December 2017 13: 05
    +1
    The article is a small mistake. On the prototypes of the J-20 were both AL-31F and Chinese WS-10A and even the prototype WS-15. But the "top ten" J-10 for a long time equipped with AL-31FN, only relatively recently and the Chinese engines began to put on the modification of the J-10B.
    The issue of starting production of the WS-15 remains open. The Chinese are not saying anything directly. Estimated time is 2019-2020.
  5. Des10
    Des10 27 December 2017 13: 16
    +2
    This is the pace, this is the plans, this is the desire, this is the realization.
    Respect.
  6. Vita vko
    Vita vko 27 December 2017 13: 54
    +4
    China needs to sell not ready-made products, but ready-made technologies. Every year, Chinese military technology is becoming closer in level to Russian. Another 3-5 years, and China will overtake us in the market of modern weapons. Therefore, it is now necessary to organize reliable mechanisms for technological cooperation. Then it is possible to really squeeze out not only the United States, but also create integrated missile defense systems and military-space systems. What immediately compel the United States to reconsider its views on withdrawing from missile defense treaties, INF Treaty and other agreements.
  7. gukoyan
    gukoyan 27 December 2017 14: 26
    0
    Guess once whose technology you copied.
  8. Lexus
    Lexus 27 December 2017 17: 19
    +2
    Such news is not surprising when they work in all directions, and not balabolit.
  9. da Vinci
    da Vinci 27 December 2017 21: 20
    0
    What else would our potential “friends” (China, Turkey, Azerbaijan, UAE) sell? wink
  10. flicker
    flicker 28 December 2017 16: 25
    +2
    China is slowly but surely becoming the number one power. That and look, soon the entire BV (SA, UAE, Kuwait, Israel, etc.) will turn their backs on the United States and swear allegiance to China and the renminbi. what