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A chance to change the system: will Russia use it?

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Pavel Grudinin, it seems, today does not need a special presentation. In the country, not only ordinary citizens know about him, but also in the highest echelons of power.


State Farm them. Lenin's enterprise today, as they said in Soviet times, is exemplary. One of its kind, it shows what can be achieved if the officials stop stealing.

What happens here does not fit in the minds of the ordinary citizen. It seems to many that this is a different camp, and certainly not Russia. Half the cost of 100-meter apartments of ordinary turners, mechanics, teachers and others is paid by the company. The second half of the cost is provided to people as an interest-free loan for 15 years.

Pavel Grudinin, director of the state farm, who will run for the presidency of Russia from the party of the Communist Party of the Russian Federation, explains this fantasy quite realistically with one forgotten word - responsibility.

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  1. Vard
    Vard 27 December 2017 10: 00 New
    +1
    This is Kuwait ... A small state in special conditions ... We would look at its successes if the state farm were, say, in the Samara region.
    1. Same lech
      Same lech 27 December 2017 10: 30 New
      +3
      This is Kuwait ... A small state in special conditions ...


      Fortunately, Russia is not a homogeneous country ... what is possible in the Moscow Region may not be possible in the conditions of Kamchatka or TUVA. I can only wish Grudinin success ... the more wealthy farms in RUSSIA the better for our people ... especially on the farm GRUDININA 4 raider attacks ... to someone this tidbit does not give rest.
      In other regions of Russia, something similar needs to be done, taking into account local realities ... supporting successful entrepreneurs should become the basis of state policy.
      1. Hlavaty
        Hlavaty 27 December 2017 15: 36 New
        +1
        Quote: The same Lech
        especially on the economy of Grudinin there were 4 raider attacks

        Now it will be the fifth. From fans from the opposite campaign headquarters.
        Khodorkovsky was also an ordinary billionaire, until he said that he wanted to be the president of Russia. What immediately woke up the polar fox.
        1. Lock36
          Lock36 27 December 2017 22: 41 New
          +1
          Quote: Hlavaty
          Khodorkovsky was also an ordinary billionaire

          But with Khodorkovsky you laughed heavily - his hands in blood are more than an elbow.
          1. Hlavaty
            Hlavaty 28 December 2017 00: 18 New
            +2
            And the rest of the oligarchs in your opinion are solid "vegetarians"?
            Who among the rich said that years to report for every one million, except the very first. Guess why ...
    2. Chichikov
      Chichikov 27 December 2017 10: 38 New
      +1
      Well yes! In the Samara region, Crocus International, the landowner of the state farm, would not be in demand. PR, like a super surrogate of a socialist-communist, a sort of "left of the most left." In fact, a new Russian landowner, who declared that he "wants socialism, as in Sweden and Germany" and is looking all the time for someone to squander in the political arena. A lot of money, a guarantee of sleepless nights to find the "ladder of power."
      1. figwam
        figwam 27 December 2017 10: 55 New
        +1
        And they said that the election would be boring.
      2. Same lech
        Same lech 27 December 2017 11: 07 New
        +2
        In fact, a new Russian landowner, who declared that he "wants socialism, as in Sweden and Germany" and is looking all the time for someone to squander in the political arena.

        It is time to realize that we do not live in the USSR ... not under socialism, where there were completely different criteria for evaluating labor ... now in your and my yard capitalism with all its costs, weaknesses and advantages.
        Since we are in such a situation it is better not to tear our hair out but to try to at least improve our life using the advantages of capitalism.
        Of course, as our society ripens, the capitalist formation will turn into socialism ... but this is still far away ... oh how far.
        1. Dead duck
          Dead duck 27 December 2017 14: 48 New
          +7
          Quote: The same Lech
          Since we are in such a situation it is better not to tear our hair out but to try to at least improve our life using the advantages of capitalism

          Reminds a joke - "If you are raped and you can’t do anything, then relax and try to have fun." request
      3. Reptiloid
        Reptiloid 28 December 2017 09: 31 New
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        LAND OF THE STATE FARM ..... Actually, it would be strange if the land were not leased for shopping centers ... This is a good source of income.
        Very suspicious behavior of Zyuganov. At one time, he supported Yeltsin, now Grudinin .....
  2. afrikanez
    afrikanez 27 December 2017 10: 09 New
    +3
    PR company started, the Communist Party begins and loses! lol
  3. Mar.Tirah
    Mar.Tirah 27 December 2017 10: 21 New
    +1
    I saw the same thing 10 years ago, in the Khanty-Mansi Autonomous Okrug. Only in the cities. Langepas Urengoy, Kogalym. The social services of LUKOIL enterprises for the population simply struck me. Not to mention the safety. Boats, boats, cars, were not closed. And the unemployed honestly say I haven’t seen it. Maybe it’s not so, but I’m saying it as it is. So this is not a reason to elect him as a president, moreover, repainted. He was a member of EP
    1. Gardamir
      Gardamir 27 December 2017 10: 23 New
      +3
      also repainted. He was a member of EP,
      But Putin repainted from a communist, can I?
      1. Evgtan
        Evgtan 18 January 2018 10: 10 New
        +2
        - Vladimir Vladimirovich, will you run for?
        - I have a subscription.
  4. Mar.Tirah
    Mar.Tirah 27 December 2017 10: 31 New
    +1
    Quote: Gardamir
    also repainted. He was a member of EP,
    But Putin repainted from a communist, can I?

    Of the two evils, the lesser must be chosen. Yes, and he was a communist, to be honest, so-so. He swam through the waves, and not by conviction.
  5. Gardamir
    Gardamir 27 December 2017 10: 53 New
    +1
    This is what Grudinin says about himself, but this is only for those who can listen and think.
    1. Chichikov
      Chichikov 27 December 2017 11: 14 New
      +2
      The beginning of democracy is
      Quote: Gardamir
      who can listen and think
      ?
      I don’t know what to hear, but I thought and understood - Zyuganov, in fact, recognized the political activity of the party, a failure since the 90s, and Grudin, if so “beautiful and demanded”, could have gone independent .... but, the ready electorate is more reliable!
      1. Gardamir
        Gardamir 27 December 2017 11: 17 New
        +1
        could have gone independent.
        could, but to gather votes, an independent is almost impossible. I mean the voice for registration as a candidate.
        1. Chichikov
          Chichikov 27 December 2017 11: 25 New
          +1
          Well, how so? After all, they write, but they even admire the ECHO - “The whole country knows”! Looks like they do not really know ...
          1. Reptiloid
            Reptiloid 28 December 2017 09: 39 New
            0
            "Echo" ---- admires ??????? Very suspicious ..... Suspicious of the emergence of new candidates after the failure of the previous ones. Bulk, Sobchak, Grudinin ....
  6. vladimirvn
    vladimirvn 27 December 2017 11: 32 New
    +2
    And is that all we can offer for a choice? A narrow ruler. In the middle, candidates are not enough for real competition. The odious Ksenia and bulk-do not count.
    1. misti1973
      misti1973 3 January 2018 14: 35 New
      0
      And our society consists mainly of conformists with paternalistic thinking. Even two or three years ago, Sobchak was among the "fifth column", "the hands of the State Department", etc. And now, look, you are elected as president
  7. mavrus
    mavrus 27 December 2017 11: 32 New
    0
    Quote: Vard
    This is Kuwait ... A small state in special conditions ... We would look at its successes if the state farm were, say, in the Samara region.

    It’s good that in Russia, and not in the Swiss Alps.
  8. mavrus
    mavrus 27 December 2017 12: 32 New
    +3
    Quote: afrikanez
    PR company started, the Communist Party begins and loses! lol

    At this stage, the most important thing for the Communists is that the entire pro-political political booth from Sobchak to Navalny understand that they have nothing to catch in Russia ...
    1. misti1973
      misti1973 3 January 2018 14: 29 New
      0
      This is a "non-systemic" opposition! Do you feel the difference? And the Communists are the same participants in the booth, only from the authorities. If someone votes for them, it is only because of the absence of normal opposition. They need to create a coalition with someone. But this will only be possible if Zyuzya leaves
  9. kunstkammer
    kunstkammer 27 December 2017 13: 51 New
    +1

    this is the modern ruling elite of the country
  10. Meshchersky
    Meshchersky 2 January 2018 22: 42 New
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    Quote: Reptiloid

    Very suspicious behavior of Zyuganov. At one time, he supported Yeltsin, now Grudinin .....

    But from this place can be more detailed?
  11. zevs1269
    zevs1269 3 January 2018 12: 24 New
    0
    Personally, I am confused. As a communist, I must vote for my candidate, but what is his foreign policy, I am leaning toward Putin. He must complete his plan for rearmament and strengthening geopolitically.
    1. misti1973
      misti1973 3 January 2018 14: 22 New
      +1
      When he completes his "plan", half of the country will be left without pants
  12. misti1973
    misti1973 3 January 2018 14: 19 New
    0
    What, this is Grudinin’s advertising company? Ordinary people just don’t know him. And his election program is the work of the conformist Zyuzi!
  13. The poor man
    The poor man 3 January 2018 16: 02 New
    0
    Pavel Grudinin beat the chairman of the government with a whack to fry the kid, and there, you see, the people will clatter what he's standing on. And then all forward dad in the hell strive to slip.
  14. Burian Travkin
    Burian Travkin 3 January 2018 19: 43 New
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    And who will give him power? Everyone around us is so naive ... Yes, with our people, envious and greedy, we will never even build a semblance of communism. Socialism, and that from under the stick was ... The whole problem is to educate the masses, now a consumer society is being cultivated, this is necessary for the capitalists to bring in all kinds of junk and enrich especially cunningly. And then, Grudinin, as well as the rest of the “fighters” for power, does not say anything about the way to change the current state of things, and after all, any non-stupid person understands that nothing will change just like that (by decrees and other crap), society needs to be redone, changed values ​​... This cannot be solved in the five-year period; a systematic change in the consciousness of the masses is needed. And God forbid any revolutions.
  15. Stalnov I.P.
    Stalnov I.P. 18 January 2018 09: 55 New
    0
    Is this possible in the whole of RUSSIA? Is it possible, but a person of the level of LENIN and STALIN is needed, in the good sense of the word, and then, as soon as these names are mentioned, terror immediately shouts when more than 90 million Russian citizens died of these pro-Western liberals tongue in the ass ... pushed. There is such a leader in RUSSIA, I do not see yet. If we talk about GDP, then one question, look at the speeches of the presidential candidate at the September congress edr ..., which said that Russia should enter the top five largest economies in the world, fight poverty, create new jobs, etc. ., all this is NOT COMPLETED, for some reason the leaders themselves are silent about this, as well as all politicians and experts close to them. We need a mechanism similar to the Chinese one, so they made decisions at the 4th Congress of the CCP, they are more than sure that they will carry out their program and will REPORT to their people for everything they have done and that they have not completed. To say one thing, you still need to translate all this into reality and honestly tell about the successes and failures of your people and tell you directly who is to blame for the failures and what responsibility they have incurred. When the majority of RUSSIAN CITIZENS considers the work of the government to be a failure, and the president praises them and says they work well (this is when more than 19 million RUSSIAN CITIZENS live below the poverty line), then this is simply not respect for themselves and their PEOPLE! So far there are no worthy leaders!