Great and terrible. How in the United States are afraid of Putin

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Putin, creating devilish crimes of Stalinist proportions. Putin is a city destroyer. Americans need to be afraid of the "cruel ruler of Russia." So say American analysts. Is the United States so afraid of Putin?


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This is discussed in the pages of the American edition of The Trumpet by Richard Palmer.

A rather dramatic statement about Putin’s “devilish atrocities” of “Stalinist proportions” appeared in the free booklet of ch. Trumpet editor Gerald Flurry titled "The Predicted Prince of Russia." Palmer's material site leads "InoSMI".

In its “rating”, Stalin ranks 2 among the bloody mass murderers throughout stories of humanity. But is Putin really doing the atrocities of the scale of this tyrant?

Brian Williams and Stephen Matteo in Real Clear Defense published an article titled "Putin is a city destroyer." There are eight reasons why “Americans (including Trump) should be afraid of the cruel ruler of Russia”. These are the reasons:

Putin worked in the KGB.

He came to power "thanks to the lie."

He "strengthened his power through war, the main purpose of which was genocide."

Putin "systematically suppressed the free press and undermined the foundations of democracy inside Russia."

Then Putin "invaded Ukraine and illegally annexed the Crimea."

Putin committed "war crimes in Syria."

Finally, Putin attacked the democratic elections in the United States.

In the future, under Putin, too, everything will go badly: Putin’s policy of confrontation with NATO "may turn into a war."

The article draws a “rather gloomy portrait of a Russian dictator,” the author believes. Undoubtedly, he notes, the years spent in the ranks of the secret police spying on their own citizens have influenced Putin’s worldview. This secret police "arrested, tortured and killed them by millions during the 70 years of the Soviet regime through artificially induced famine, shootings, ethnic cleansing and gulags."

The great article by Williams and Matteo is "an impressive reminder of why America should remain vigilant in its relations with Russia." Therefore ch. Trumpet editor Mr Flurry writes the following about Putin:

“This man is not only an authoritarian leader! He is a vicious, ruthless, vengeful agent, proficient in Soviet methods of psychological struggle, murder and war. As one Russian journalist wrote, “Putin is an enlarged model of the KGB.”


Finally, Putin has “a brutal power and brutal desire to rule the whole world,” he is “a vindictive, cruel friend of the devil who commits a variety of godless crimes.” And Putin’s coming to power in Russia represents "a detailed embodiment of the biblical prophecy that it is just such a cruel person who will lead Russia on the eve of the end of the world."

"It is extremely unpleasant to discuss people like Putin and their atrocities," Richard Palmer sums up. “But we must draw strength and faith in the thought that the Lord controls everything that happens in the world and that He has a plan to put an end to all this evil.”

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Western Christmas horror stories about which we already told on "VO", reached a climax. God is called America’s last hope. Only the Lord is able to put an end to the “godless” evil.

The view is amazing. After all, the Americans themselves love to repeat: Hope is not a strategy. There is even a book with such a title: wrote Rick Page, published in 2001 year.

Hope is not a strategy. It turns out that the US has no strategy against Putin.

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    1. +17
      27 December 2017 07: 41
      Finally, Putin has “a brutal power and brutal desire to rule the whole world,” he is “a vindictive, cruel friend of the devil who commits a variety of godless crimes.” And Putin’s coming to power in Russia represents "a detailed embodiment of the biblical prophecy that it is just such a cruel person who will lead Russia on the eve of the end of the world."
      - In the American madhouse without changes.
      For the millions of American public fools in the form of compensation laughing
      1. +11
        27 December 2017 07: 52
        Oleg Chuvakin, as usual from a third party, dumped dirt about Putin.
        There is nothing nicer than poking around in other people's slops. Isn’t it nice to retell and rewrite the dirt and lies about our President?
        Like, it's not me, it's them. But the signature on all these slops is Oleg Chuvakin.

        Kinder need to be Oleg.
        1. +14
          27 December 2017 08: 11
          Pillars still regret their negativity to GDP. wink And we need to move forward, to a better life ..
          1. +12
            27 December 2017 09: 46
            What do you pay extra for the force of this under-erdogan / Old Man 2.0? Personally, this type with seedlings under my nose is not pleasant to me.
            1. +2
              27 December 2017 10: 38
              Why? What did not please?
            2. +5
              27 December 2017 10: 41
              Quote: Vincent
              Personally, this type with seedlings under my nose is not pleasant to me.

              Ksenia, they say, shaves everywhere .. laughing Thanks for the information is optional. hi
              R.S .. and they also say that they choose the program, but it turns out .. belay
              1. +1
                27 December 2017 11: 18
                Quote: DEPHIHTO
                R.S .. and they also say that they choose the program, but it turns out .. belay

                But it turns out they choose the president.
                Oh, how many wonderful discoveries we have ...
              2. +2
                27 December 2017 16: 26
                Have you ever seen a deputy, at least at the local level, carry out the election program? He got out and that's how Grandma whispered.
            3. +7
              27 December 2017 11: 24
              Quote: Vincent
              What do you pay extra for the force of this under-erdogan / Old Man 2.0? Personally, this type with seedlings under my nose is not pleasant to me.

              And what does it like or not? We are not choosing a bride. I mostly like Putin, but I'm not voting for him. I vote for the second in the rating. Not for the party, not for the person, and even more so for I do not like this party or person. When the second in the rating steps on the heels of the leader, the leader begins to do something for us, for the people. ALL.
          2. +4
            27 December 2017 11: 21
            Dear, you are in every news of his PR. It seems you get paid for it
            1. +2
              27 December 2017 14: 24
              Yes, there is a whole team of promoters. And how they try to "step on the heels of the leader" ... Yes, he is up to the leader, as to the moon on a bicycle. I don’t understand how you can praise a person who hasn’t proved himself in public affairs. The ordinary chairman of the collective farm, with intelligence of the appropriate level, the closest analogue at our fingertips. Why should I trust him? And how will it look in the international arena? Okay, Putin is a scout, and this collective farmer is a circus ... I choose an experienced politician, strategist and leader Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin!
              1. +1
                27 December 2017 16: 34
                Quote: Vincent
                by what has not proved itself in state affairs?
                Putin recommended himself in the 90s while working in the administration of Sobchak? And while working in the presidential administration? And how did he get to these high posts?
                Quote: Vincent
                Putin scout
                And also a great conjuncturist. As soon as he sensed the wind of change, he quickly quit the KGB. And then he turned as he could. For example, he dragged a suitcase behind Sobchak.
                Quote: Vincent
                I choose an experienced politician, strategist and leader
                Would they put before you Putin from the late 90s and modern Grudinin, who would they choose?
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                    1. +1
                      28 December 2017 01: 35
                      I haven’t updated the training manual since I was 14, strategist Mamkin? How is it in the 15th, the economy is already torn to shreds? Did you have a salary in dollars, or did you buy products in dollars? And where does Putin?
                      1. +1
                        28 December 2017 10: 49
                        funny about training manuals, you crest? but the opinion is different, so the agent of the Kremlin. And I’m probably an agent of the State Department, no less. About your thinking, I wrote earlier. The increase in the cost of products, if you strain your back .. your back muscles and you reach the store you will see for yourself, well, you can do it without straining your muscles, you can put the rest of the brain on the Internet and increase the utilities. A comparison with dollars is a visual aid for you. In 13, I could buy 15 times more or much better quality goods for my salary
                        1. 0
                          28 December 2017 12: 57
                          Well, and what is the essence of your convolutions? Putin is to blame for the fact that the dollar has risen in price? I still don’t understand, you’re drowning for Grudinin and against Putin, I just can’t catch the line of your thoughts - what does the dollar have to do with your level of consumer opportunities? Like, if Grudinin is elected president, the dollar will become cheaper and panicky?
                    2. +1
                      28 December 2017 01: 38
                      If the salary in rubles has not changed and prices have not risen either, then what's the catch? Less bucks you can buy? Am I confused about something ... Or was the salary supposed to increase, and the prices to double by half?
                      1. +1
                        28 December 2017 07: 16
                        I agree with you with two hands! Everyone is trying to transfer all proceeds to bucks, and they go to the store with rubles.
                2. +1
                  28 December 2017 07: 14
                  [quote] Under whose leadership the number of people living below the poverty line is growing! / quote]
                  The number of cars is only growing, the elite villages under each city and even the seedy town are only growing, iPhones are equipped, they go abroad for the sun, they buy video cards for 60, they even buy bitcoins. But you get poorer, you know. Who started living below the poverty line? Announce the lists by name
        2. +6
          27 December 2017 08: 22
          Where is the dirt? If Putin even “suppressed freedom of speech” (God forgive me!), He would have already earned great respect.
          1. +13
            27 December 2017 08: 28
            This secret police "arrested, tortured and killed them by the millions during the 70 years of the Soviet regime

            Why are there millions ... BILLIONS !!!
            1. +6
              27 December 2017 08: 53
              Victor, good morning! hi it seems that such a period has already been in history, regarding the “Russians are coming,” everything repeats itself again.
              1. +8
                27 December 2017 09: 04
                Greetings, namesake! hi
                Quote: Going
                it seems that such a period has already been in history, regarding the “Russians are coming,” everything repeats itself again.

                smile History, in general, wanders in a circle.
                1. +6
                  27 December 2017 09: 06
                  Only the “coils” become steeper and beat harder.
              2. +7
                27 December 2017 09: 15
                Victor, good health to you friends hi Well, I don’t understand, well, the striped ones frighten themselves, and the flag is in their hands. Why do we need this? Plus, all branches, except for ordinary advertising, will now be clogged up with political ones by March. There, a little higher - a sample. Here, my colleague gave me a link yesterday about Putin’s visit to the new Strategic Missile Forces center, and on the site about this, no gu-gu. And there is so much interesting. If you want to get acquainted, I will share it with pleasure.
                1. +5
                  27 December 2017 09: 17
                  Greetings Sergey! hi Yes, I heard about this center and heard the reviews of those who visited there - speechless ...
                  1. +4
                    27 December 2017 09: 27
                    And the terms of construction and equipment? That would have worked in shipbuilding.
                    1. +3
                      27 December 2017 09: 34
                      Two years, from scratch ...
                2. +4
                  27 December 2017 09: 25
                  Peppy morning for everyone! hi
                  Great and terrible. How in the United States are afraid of Putin

                  Afraid - that means respect! You don’t have to expect more from them. wink
                  1. +4
                    27 December 2017 09: 35
                    Maxim, good morning! hi they are from Russia a horror story, for their citizens, made and cut coupons.
                    1. +4
                      27 December 2017 09: 44
                      Quote: Going
                      they are from Russia a horror story, for their citizens, made and cut coupons.

                      Quite right, only they cut not only from their own, but from everyone they can reach. Yes
                      1. +4
                        27 December 2017 09: 48
                        And they reached almost everyone.
                        1. +4
                          27 December 2017 09: 52
                          Well, didn’t they reach us, China, Iran and North Korea? And this is already a lot.
                  2. +4
                    27 December 2017 09: 38
                    Greetings Max hi Yes, we do not expect good from them. Let them continue to tremble with fear. Let's scare them even more. Maybe they read IN.
                    1. +4
                      27 December 2017 09: 46
                      There is no doubt that they read. But to frighten them even more is too much honor.
                      1. +4
                        27 December 2017 10: 41
                        Or maybe they have a concrete floor? Or do you think they will strike? wassat
                        1. +3
                          27 December 2017 10: 43
                          Even if they do not strike with the head, they still will not harm anything - one solid bone, no important organs. laughing
                      2. +4
                        27 December 2017 11: 13
                        Well, maybe they’ll even scratch their faces or open their nose. laughing
                        1. +4
                          27 December 2017 11: 18
                          What is the use of fili? They heal like a dog. wink Purely for yourself, neighing? lol
                  3. +4
                    27 December 2017 09: 57
                    Quote: Jedi
                    Well, didn’t they reach us, China, Iran and North Korea? And this is already a lot.


                    What infuriates them, they will dig a hoof to the end.
                    1. +4
                      27 December 2017 10: 01
                      With a hoof, you say ... And somewhere I have a couple of anti-personnel "frogs" in a closet lying around ... feel
                      1. +4
                        27 December 2017 10: 03
                        You can already sign up in line ... but they kick off their hooves.
                        1. +4
                          27 December 2017 10: 42
                          And the horns we ourselves ... wink
                      2. +4
                        27 December 2017 11: 34
                        Quote: Svarog51
                        And the horns we ourselves ... wink


                        There are more than anyone who wants to.
        3. +5
          27 December 2017 08: 35
          Quote: Vladimir16
          Oleg Chuvakin, as usual from a third party, dumped dirt about Putin.
          Yes, you just do not understand anything. In the West and in our country, political strategists have long understood that in order to raise the rating of GDP, it is necessary to publish articles on how the West does not like GDP. Therefore, in connection with the election of such articles, we will see more. Trump, by the way, introduces additional personal sanctions against GDP, he also decided to strengthen the rating of GDP. In fact, the foreign and domestic policies of the Russian Federation in the United States are completely satisfied with everyone; they are very pleased with the GDP rate there. State Duma deputy and United Russia Fedorov claims that GDP is under the full control of the United States and defends its position only in exceptional cases. This may be the position of GDP in relation to sexual minorities. However, I myself do not share this opinion. This cannot be, because it cannot be. GDP is a true patriot, completely devoted to the interests of Russia, day and night it defends the good of the Russian people, tirelessly, like an epic Russian hero, struggling with theft, corruption and the outflow of capital, raising agriculture and industry from its knees, becoming an ordinary person in Russia every year more and more fun.
        4. +2
          27 December 2017 09: 09
          .Goder you need to be Oleg.

          Therefore, the same Lech will write
          about Putin the following: smile
          “This person is not only an authoritarian leader! He is a wonderful, wonderful, remembering agent, mastering the Soviet methods of moral struggle against murders and war unleashed by the Anglo-Saxons. As one Russian journalist wrote, “Putin is an enlarged model of Truth.”
          Finally, Putin has “people's power and the desire to rule the world with the help of good”, he is “a magnificent, noble admirer of the LORD OF GOD, committing a variety of angelic deeds.” And Putin’s coming to power in Russia represents “a detailed embodiment of the biblical prophecy that such a noble person will lead Russia on the eve of the end of the world.”
          "It is extremely pleasant to discuss people like Putin and their good deeds. But we must draw strength and faith in the idea that the Lord controls everything that happens in the world, and that He has a plan on how to help all this good. "
          smile Write OLEG something like this ... in the next article for the moral balance of members of the forum ...
          Why Anglo-Saxon propaganda is easily vulnerable to these easily recognizable cliches ... which you can also fight by inserting synonyms into their propaganda blanks ... this can be done ad infinitum.
          Sometimes it seems to me that propaganda articles are written by computer programs ... they look so clumsy and stupid against the background of our reality.

          * * *
        5. +2
          27 December 2017 09: 12
          Vladimir16
          Oleg Chuvakin brought to the attention of an article by Gerald Flarry entitled "The Foretold Prince of Russia."
          This is the press organ of Jehovah's Witnesses. The activities of this totalitarian sect, from this year is prohibited in the Russian Federation. So they freak out.
        6. +4
          27 December 2017 13: 07
          And so, in order ..
          Putin worked in the KGB.

          Recall George W. Bush, the 43rd president, who served as director of the CIA between January 30, 1976 and January 20, 1977.
          He came to power "thanks to the lie."

          I remember Obama’s election and his promises. And when he came to power, did he fulfill at least one promise?
          He "strengthened his power through war, the main purpose of which was genocide."

          Starting with the genocide of Indians, blacks, Latinos, etc., in the USA everything was through genocide. And the wars over the past 75 years, which, more often by forgery, were unleashed by the States and which claimed a total of more than one hundred million civilians?
          Putin "systematically suppressed the free press and undermined the foundations of democracy inside Russia."

          This statement is from a country with a totalitarian regime, where the press is controlled like no other government, and where there is no democracy.
          Then Putin "invaded Ukraine and illegally annexed the Crimea."

          Russia joined Crimea as a result of a referendum in Crimea. What nafig annexation? Moreover, most of the territory of Ukraine is historically Russian lands. However, like Alaska and California, which are also historically ours.
          Putin committed "war crimes in Syria."

          Seriously? And didn’t the coalition forces led by the United States support the terrorists, supplying them with weapons, instructors, etc.?
          In August and September 2017, the Syrian government appealed to the UN Security Council with a call to bring to justice the United States, leading the coalition, “which commits deliberate crimes against civilians, destroys hospitals, schools, bridges and dams, which complemented the crimes of terrorist organizations

          Finally, Putin attacked the democratic elections in the United States.

          Congratulate comrade Trump on the assignment of the next rank of the armed forces of the Russian Federation. wassat
      2. +13
        27 December 2017 07: 53
        It’s necessary to raise a “Darkest” toast for the New Year
        1. +3
          27 December 2017 08: 26
          I will raise. For his early resignation. Together with friends from St. Petersburg.
          1. +7
            27 December 2017 08: 49
            Quote: Greenwood
            I will raise. For his early resignation. Together with friends from St. Petersburg.

            Do you have a lot of friends from St. Petersburg? belay
            1. +11
              27 December 2017 09: 01
              Quote: СРЦ П-15
              Do you have a lot of friends from St. Petersburg?

              laughing Richly!
              1. +7
                27 December 2017 09: 09
                Quote: Greenwood
                I will raise. For his early resignation. Together with friends from St. Petersburg.


                Do you know the joke - “why do we need a new chairman”? Do you want the Maidan in Russia and transformation, or rather return to the 90s? God forbid.
            2. 0
              27 December 2017 09: 09
              I don’t have much, although I have one, so I live in Vlad. lol
              Putin has much more, and everyone moved to Moscow with him.
              1. +1
                27 December 2017 11: 46
                Quote: Greenwood
                I don’t have much, although I have one, so I live in Vlad.

                But do locals call him not Vladik?
                Actually, I showed you, in my previous commentary, how incorrectly placed punctuation marks distort the meaning of the said phrase. hi
                1. 0
                  27 December 2017 16: 40
                  Quote: СРЦ П-15
                  But do locals call him not Vladik?
                  No, that’s what it is called only in the western part of Russia, for some reason thinking that this diminutive name is suitable for the city. We always called Vlad.
                  Quote: SRC P-15
                  Actually, I showed you, in my previous commentary, how incorrectly placed punctuation marks distort the meaning of the said phrase. hi
                  I understood this and admit it. But I am sure you understood the true meaning of my message. wink
      3. +9
        27 December 2017 08: 07
        ... A rather harsh statement about Putin's "diabolical atrocities" of "Stalinist proportions" appeared in the free booklet of chap. Trumpet editor Gerald Flaury ....
        “It's extremely unpleasant to discuss people like Putin and their atrocities,” Richard Palmer summarizes. “But we must draw strength and faith in the idea that the Lord controls everything that happens in the world, and that He has a plan on how to put an end to all this evil” ...

        Yeah, Tiran - lyutut! Yes The whole world is in a panic! crying One hope only - on the Almighty! fool

        PS And it’s time for Richard Palmer with hemp - to tie! laughing laughing laughing
        1. +5
          27 December 2017 08: 27
          That's when they start to fear Putin’s “concern” ..... Then it’s completely sad ...
          Quote: Sergey-svs
          ... A rather harsh statement about Putin's "diabolical atrocities" of "Stalinist proportions" appeared in the free booklet of chap. Trumpet editor Gerald Flaury ....
          “It's extremely unpleasant to discuss people like Putin and their atrocities,” Richard Palmer summarizes. “But we must draw strength and faith in the idea that the Lord controls everything that happens in the world, and that He has a plan on how to put an end to all this evil” ...

          Yeah, Tiran - lyutut! Yes The whole world is in a panic! crying One hope only - on the Almighty! fool

          PS And it’s time for Richard Palmer with hemp - to tie! laughing laughing laughing
          1. +2
            27 December 2017 09: 14
            And where about the blood of babies and virgins?
        2. +10
          27 December 2017 08: 31
          It’s extremely unpleasant to discuss people like Putin,

          The mice cried, pricked, but continued to chew the cactus ... laughing
          1. +6
            27 December 2017 08: 55
            Not a day, not a line without Putin ...
        3. +4
          27 December 2017 08: 54
          There is something more seriously used. lol
          1. dSK
            +5
            27 December 2017 09: 06
            October 19, 2017 at the Valdai Forum Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin pronounced harsh indictment of Western countries. The Russian president billed all Russian grievances against the US and European countries - "The biggest mistake on our part in relations with the West is that we trusted you too much. And your mistake is that you took this trust as a weakness and abused that trust. Understanding this, you need to cross out what happened, turn over this page and move on, basing our relations on mutual respect and treating each other as equal, equal partners. "
            1. +1
              27 December 2017 09: 10
              Oil, oil ...
              1. +4
                27 December 2017 09: 14
                Quote from dsk
                The biggest mistake on our part in relations with the West is that we trusted you too much. And your mistake is that you took this trust as a weakness and abused that trust


                They did not hear this, but it is their problem.
            2. +3
              27 December 2017 21: 43
              Quote from dsk
              "The biggest mistake on our part in relations with the West is that we trusted you too much. And your mistake is that you took this trust as weakness and abused that trust.

              He entrusted the most sacred GDP to them, he entrusted the loot, and they are not good people, they wanted to know their origin. In how. belay
        4. +1
          27 December 2017 09: 16
          "Putin was an employee of the infamous KGB." Bush Sr. was the director of the CIA. AND?
          1. +1
            27 December 2017 10: 00
            But the CIA only tortures bad guys ...
            1. +1
              27 December 2017 10: 13
              Well, yes, yes, sorry, they’re for all the good, against all the bad ...
      4. Maz
        0
        27 December 2017 09: 59
        The GDP has created and is improving a system similar to the Jewish system of synagogues, educating society and future generations. It is a pity that our priests do not work well. Ravas work a hundred times more efficient. The prosperity of Israel is a vivid example, with its position and surroundings on a geographical map. Well, we have six more years. Will live..!.
    2. +11
      27 December 2017 07: 41
      Yes, no one has been afraid of anyone under these stars for a long time already. Moreover, our power-holders who have long been on a short leash have all the money, children, wives, lovers, lovers,EVERYTHING there ... What are the "partners" afraid of? What suddenly popped? laughing
      1. +12
        27 December 2017 07: 54
        A picture is presented: such a fat mattress sits in one hand beer, in the other popcorn, watches a movie with kerry and here, it’s pierced directly by ёёёёёёёё, I'm afraid of Putin and he writes in a pre-prepared "duck" wassat
        It seems to me that someone is exaggerating something, and strictly speaking, I do not care so much who is afraid of Putin, I know that on Lukoil another 70 liters of penny were thrown, and whether it’s worth the hell to us, the main thing is that the mattress was described.
        1. +6
          27 December 2017 08: 04
          laughing Wow !!! We have thrown so much of these pennies in just the last few days that it’s scary to look already, and then what? The rhetorical question, to which everyone knows the answer, don’t expect any further good. Hold on, as the Great Dame bequeathed ... If only the mattress is described, the rest is not important ... smile
          1. +5
            27 December 2017 08: 09
            Quote: jolly deckhand
            If only the mattress is described, the rest is not important ...

            And what is not the plot for the new "patriotic" film of Bondarchuk's "described mattress" wassat
        2. +12
          27 December 2017 08: 18
          Quote: Stroporez
          on Lukoil another liter 70 penny

          laughing Soon the "talking head" of Comrade Zyuganov - Mr. Grudinin, how he will become president, how he will bring down HAPPINESS good
          Only now, if Grudinin does not give you HAPPINESS, I can imagine how you will water him laughing
          1. +4
            27 December 2017 08: 23
            Quote: Serg65
            Soon the "talking head" of Comrade Zyuganov - Mr. Grudinin, how he will become president, how he will bring down HAPPINESS

            Well let's say that I want HAPPINESS to roll over to all of us! You can consider this a congratulation on the Coming.
            Quote: Serg65
            Only now, if Grudinin does not give you HAPPINESS, I can imagine how you will water him

            Your ideas about me, sir, are very superficial and erroneous. hi
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              1. +2
                27 December 2017 09: 02
                Quote: Serg65
                Or do you naively think that dumping Putin. will you be happy for all of us?
                Are you convinced that Yeltsin was an independent president of the Russian Federation, that Yeltsin Russia was indeed a sovereign and independent state, that Yeltsin pursued an independent foreign and domestic policy? And did they really choose a successor in the Kremlin? And there was no compromising hook on the successor that allowed him to be completely controlled? Answer the questions.

                GDP will go away one way or another, no one is eternal. In the event that a patriot Grudinin comes to the presidency of the Russian Federation, no doubt, the Russian renaissance will begin.
                1. +5
                  27 December 2017 09: 23
                  Quote: Traveler
                  Are you convinced that Yeltsin

                  Yeltsin, like Gorbachev, is a project of the Andropov KGB with all the consequences
                  Quote: Traveler
                  did they really choose a successor in the Kremlin?

                  I doubt that Yeltsin’s entourage chose the receiver — that's for sure! I also doubt that the Americans had a hand in this wink . Putin is a KGB product and his entire presidency is visible through the prism of the KGB!
                  Quote: Traveler
                  GDP will somehow go away, no one is forever

                  smile This is undeniably true
                  Quote: Traveler
                  if the patriot Grudinin comes to the post of president of the Russian Federation, no doubt, the Russian renaissance will begin.

                  Let's just ... throw away Grudinin as a person and look at Grudinin as a politician.
                  More recently, Grudinin is standing on TV, and Zyuganov is behind him ... Grudinin is speaking with frequent glances behind his back .... under the President, it is necessary to create a State Council that will not obey the president wassat ??????????? It is necessary to force the Duma to work, and not to agree with the president- good fine! Deputies should discuss, work out and promote their decisions - it’s also reasonable!
                  What do we have in the end? It is necessary to make a fateful decision, for example, to increase the military budget by 2% .... The State Council sits, decides, proposes, remakes, postpones, considers ... they took it in half and pass their decision to the Duma, the Duma does the same thing and the State Council but refuses the president to increase the budget, because the base in Tartus is unnecessary to us .....
                  And yet .... what is the "Russian Renaissance" in your understanding?
                  1. 0
                    27 December 2017 19: 16
                    Quote: Serg65
                    Yeltsin, like Gorbachev, is a project of the Andropov KGB with all the consequences
                    Andropov does not follow from the fact that Gorbachev was promoting. that perestroika and the collapse of the USSR is the brainchild of the KGB. Yeltsin was also dragged off topic to the KGB.
                    Quote: Serg65
                    I doubt that Yeltsin’s entourage chose the receiver — that's for sure! I also doubt that the Americans had a hand in this
                    And who is a nice man, have aliens really had a hand in nominating a successor?
                    Quote: Serg65
                    Putin is a KGB product and his entire presidency is visible through the prism of the KGB!
                    Oh how! The KGB put forward a successor! Just a sensational statement. The KGB was no longer in sight, but the holy spirit of this all-powerful organization is alive comrades. laughing laughing laughing Well, what to talk about with you?

                    Quote: Serg65
                    under the president, you need to create a State Council that will not obey the president
                    Grudinin means creating a body that will be a counterweight against the concentration of all power in one hand, as it is now in fact. Thanks to this, protection from the fool and the traitor will appear. We have already been burned at this several times, starting with Nicholas 2. It is time to put an end to this. Enough with Russia fever, civil wars and crises. Grudinin is absolutely right.
                    Quote: Serg65
                    What is the "Russian Renaissance" in your understanding?
                    There is an opinion that the renaissance is when Russia becomes a sovereign state, casts off the American yoke, cleans the country of traitors and all those who serve as traitors, with a dynamically developing economy, with low levels of corruption, theft, capital flight, with a high standard of living Russian people, with positive demographics, with a strong army armed with modern weapons, when films and games will not have Russophobia and propaganda of homosexuality, when religionophobia will be banned, when art will rely on high spirituality.
                  2. +2
                    27 December 2017 21: 53
                    Quote: Serg65
                    I doubt that Yeltsin’s entourage chose the receiver — that's for sure! I also doubt that the Americans had a hand in this. Putin is a KGB product and his entire presidency is visible through the prism of the KGB!

                    Are you really saying all this?
                    A freelance major, head of club in Dresden, canine portfolio-president You are a unique person what It looks like an adult already. belay . Case case No. 144128. Investigators had no doubt that the president was implicated in a number of crimes related to embezzlement of budget funds. The investigation was led by Colonel of Justice Andrei Zykov.
                    Look on the Internet and tie you with this conspiracy. Everything is much simpler and more prosaic.
              2. +2
                27 December 2017 09: 04
                Quote: Serg65
                Now look at this fascist poster of the Second World War now compare it with your calls and pouring mud on Putin ..... and what are the differences ???? Or do you naively think that you dumped Putin. will you be happy for all of us?

                Thank. Exactly!
              3. +4
                27 December 2017 09: 08
                Quote: Serg65
                Now compare with your calls and pouring mud on Putin ..... and what are the differences ????

                You’ve messed up something, dear, I’m just stating the facts and I can give them here, the format is not enough. I express my IMHO.
                Yes, this citizen is deeply disliking to me, I do not see in him those qualities that PR people initially gave him, they simply do not exist.
                If you want to see something that is not and never was and to believe in the person who has led you for 18 years by the nose, stubbornly continuing the dog-Eltsin affair, then please believe your right.
                Quote: Serg65
                from tell me honestly, is there really a rogue and a scammer Fedorov for you an honest and decent person?

                Are you kidding or is it really difficult for you to get the gist of what is stated?
                Okay, Fedorov is a clown and a weather vane, only by stupidity, or by order he merges the Old, I don’t even want to talk about him, only in kintz it’s not about him.
                1. +5
                  27 December 2017 10: 16
                  Quote: Stroporez
                  I'm just stating the facts

                  bully Well, I understand perfectly that the positive doesn’t interest you, only the negative!
                  At the same time, there has always been a negative in the history of Russia, but fate did not often indulge our Motherland as a positive!
                  Quote: Stroporez
                  If you want to see something that is not and never was and to believe in the person who has led you for 18 years by the nose, stubbornly continuing the dog-Eltsin affair, then please believe your right.

                  I do not believe, I see! In addition, my vision is not based on a narrowly focused political outlook on life. wink
                  For 18 years, the “bad” Putin, without repression and executions, pulled Russia out of the Yeltsin’s latrine - isn't that so? Or do you think that the people of Russia now live the same way as in 99?
                  What is happening now? Liberals and communists in one bunch united against Putin - the same slogans, the same search for weaknesses, the same distortion of facts and the same calls for the overthrow of power! The capitalist Grudinin under the red flag calls for the slaughter of other capitalists - nonsense? Absolutely not! Do not you think that Grudinin will now play the role of Gorbachev? Both Gorbachev and Grudinin appeared as the devil from a snuffbox ... scorching, I want to be president ..... and maybe first the governor of the Pskov region, for example? Show me what kind of business executive and politician you are, bring the region to the forefront, so the whole country will vote for you without hesitation!
                  And the most interesting question is, who conducts the actions of white and red?
                  1. +3
                    27 December 2017 10: 45
                    Quote: Serg65
                    What is happening now? Liberals and communists in one bunch united against Putin -

                    Quote: Serg65
                    In addition, my vision is not based on a narrowly focused political outlook on life.

                    I can dissect your entire koment, but I see no reason to comment on the surge of cosiralogical stupidity.
                    It is difficult to discuss a brow who is poorly versed in material.
                    I note two points:
                    1) name at least one liberal from the Grudinin team
                    2) Sound the future PVV team.

                    Threat. I need to drive to work! The team for Grudinin agitate laughing
                    And if you are interested, find the PDS of the NPSR, otherwise it turns out I know a lot about airborne forces, but you don’t know anything about Grudinin, although his bigraphy raised your idol.
                    And then we'll talk wink
                    1. +5
                      27 December 2017 12: 13
                      Quote: Stroporez
                      I see no reason to comment on the surge of cosiralogical stupidity.

                      laughing I would not have served in the Navy if it hadn’t been so funny ...
                      This one, as you say. "conspiracy thesis", I know painfully, because I had to contemplate all this, from beginning to end!
                      Quote: Stroporez
                      name at least one liberal from the Grudinin team

                      laughing So Grudinin himself is a liberal, and the second is Zyuganov!
                      Quote: Stroporez
                      you about Grudinin nothing

                      bully Well, yes, yes, you’re naive .... not only the Communists sing the praises of Grudinin, but also “Echo of Moscow” with “New Time” - I don’t want to read !!!
                      Happy New Year to you. My friend!!! hi
                      1. +2
                        27 December 2017 13: 19
                        Quote: Serg65
                        So Grudinin himself is a liberal, and the second is Zyuganov!

                        And hto Putin?)
                        Quote: Serg65
                        Well, yes, yes, you’re naive .... not only the Communists sing the praises of Grudinin, but also “Echo of Moscow” with “New Time” - I don’t want to read !!!

                        Well let them sing))) Well, Putin will not be in power, so what? What will it be? the lady will not be and other rubbish, it will become easier to breathe Yes
                        And so yes, Happy New Year, Happy Dear Colleague! hi Yes
                        1. +1
                          27 December 2017 20: 36
                          Quote: Stroporez
                          Happy New Year, dear
                          Yes, imagine Stroporez: GDP is a New Year’s address: dear fellow citizens, I’m leaving, I am sure Grudinin is a worthy candidate for president of the Russian Federation. laughing There would have been an explosion of joy throughout Russia, as it was in its time after Yeltsin’s statement.

                          But these opponents, no words, they didn’t ruin and betray the country in 91 and 93 and are now doing their dirty deed. One impenetrable stupidity, inadequacy and betrayal.
                  2. +5
                    27 December 2017 10: 45
                    Seryoga, welcome hi Here is how everyone wants to change the government. No need to look at sworn partners. Like a change of president - so a mess the whole first term, only in the second they will begin to establish again and again in a new way. Do we need this?
                    1. +6
                      27 December 2017 11: 05
                      Healthy Serena! hi
                      Quote: Svarog51
                      Here is how everyone wants a change of power

                      laughing How is the classic?
                      We survived the anti-alcohol law, We survived Perestroika, we survived the death of the USSR, we survived Yeltsin, and God will survive Grudinin wink
                      Quote: Svarog51
                      No look

                      recourse Oh Seryoga, I've seen enough of these gorlopans! In the 85, he is a political commander ... comrades, the fight against alcohol is not a company, it is forever laughing a week later, the commander went with him to pick up a sober!
                      In 86 .... comrades, the party began the restructuring of the USSR economy and, as the Secretary General said, in 2000, all citizens of the USSR will live in their apartment!
                      In 91 .... comrades, progressive representatives of our Politburo and the government decided to remove the enemy Gorbachev and save the USSR .... bully and after 3 of the day ... comrades, the party saw through the traitors of the GKChP!
                      A month later, this "fighter for the minds of sailors and officers" sewed a chevron with a repainted German flag on his hand am
                      Quote: Svarog51
                      it is necessary to us?

                      what I've been thinking about it for a long time ... to deport liberals and communists to somewhere in the northern Amur region and don’t tear your throats!
                      1. +5
                        27 December 2017 11: 34
                        Namesake, we are already tired of all the idiots to worry about, just to live hunting - quietly, peacefully, calmly. In my biography, there are no less than the same stories, almost a carbon copy. It would be necessary to deport them all, only I would suggest sending them to Australia. Let the kangaroos brain powder if they catch up. There is nothing for them to poison the taiga with their presence.
                        PS How are you? Are friendships developing? I instructed Rudolph after you, and from the second call he also got marine shoulder straps. good drinks
                  3. +1
                    27 December 2017 11: 31
                    Quote: Serg65
                    ... maybe the governor at first admits the Pskov region? Show me what kind of business executive and politician you are, bring the region to the forefront, so the whole country will vote for you without hesitation!

                    Can not. In the Pskov region, land is not as expensive as 5 meters from the Moscow Ring Road.
                    1. +6
                      27 December 2017 12: 04
                      Quote: merlin
                      In the Pskov region, land is not as expensive as in 5 meters from the Moscow Ring Road.

                      belay Are you hinting that becoming president Grudinin will extend the Moscow Ring Road to Vladivostok and plant strawberries in Russia?
                      1. +2
                        27 December 2017 12: 09
                        Quote: Serg65
                        belay Are you hinting that becoming president Grudinin will extend the Moscow Ring Road to Vladivostok and plant strawberries in Russia?

                        Well, why ... we had one "corncob", now here is the "strawberry" will be ...
                        GIVE A STRAWBERRY IN THE ARCTIC !!!
          2. +2
            27 December 2017 11: 01
            Quote: Serg65
            I imagine how you will water it with mine

            good But how could it be otherwise if the "sale of dreams" did not take place "here and now." laughing There is such a category of people: “If only to me!”, Yeah. Well, this is a more private, everyday case. A more scanty option is if such topics move "on behalf of and on behalf of." Suppose, for the second week already, a group of people shoves a whiskered project everywhere. I would not be surprised if the meeting "support statement" in an article on the army of Sierra Leone. Of course, no one forbade campaigning, but damn it ... But there are enough "election" articles on the resource. Again, agitators do not think about the opposite effect - you can "drag" the name to such an extent that people spit. All is well, but in moderation.
            1. +7
              27 December 2017 11: 16
              Quote: Paranoid50
              for the second week already, a "group of people" shoves a "mustache project" everywhere.

              bully That's for sure!!! VO is gradually turning into an anti-Putin site, and both white and red are trying!
              Quote: Paranoid50
              agitators do not think about the opposite effect

              I would not even say that a bit!
              What is the Military Review website? Initially, this site brought together active military men, retirees, history buffs, people for whom the word "homeland" is not an empty phrase! Gradually, some of the site’s initial patrons were weeded out, filling the vacuum with trolls, but despite this, the spirit of the Military Review site still lives on, and this is the main mistake of the agitators - people sitting on the site are not too lazy to see information about the proposed candidate, comprehend the proposal and render their verdict!
      2. +6
        27 December 2017 08: 45
        love
        Quote: jolly deckhand
        Yes, no one is afraid of anyone under these stars for a long time.

        Well, if they are discussing, then EXISTS !!! laughing
        1. +5
          27 December 2017 09: 02
          Pleasant Man is always nice to meet in the morning ... love love love love love love love wink
          1. +5
            27 December 2017 09: 41
            keep the answer ...

            love love love
    3. +10
      27 December 2017 07: 42
      “Give us back Yeltsin so that our relations become warm and cheerful again”
    4. +7
      27 December 2017 07: 42
      Yes, Putin lied to the Liberals, it’s true, he organized the genocide of terrorists around the world and it’s true, he returned Crimea to Russia, he systematically fought against pseudo media by organizing conferences all over the country and the world, and even more so tried in all elections.
    5. +14
      27 December 2017 07: 42
      I would for this Joseph Vissarionovich this Yankee beat all his teeth! fool Skot no-ro-giy, sticks his filthy snout into our history! But before Putin, he is not Stalin, he is from the Soviet system, but a liberal, too soft, otherwise he would have restored the death penalty a long time ago! It’s not Putin who needs to be afraid; we need to be afraid! We will not regret American blood for our country!
      1. +6
        27 December 2017 07: 44
        You’ll probably be a political worker in the upcoming war. It turns out well.
    6. +1
      27 December 2017 07: 43
      Treasure more distinctly. And you will not work
    7. +10
      27 December 2017 07: 49
      It was necessary to add: “And 80% of the population of our country, accomplices of the servant of the devil” ... here there is not enough ending, too weak a plot .. =)))
      1. +2
        27 December 2017 09: 19
        If you believe that “Putin’s coming to power in Russia is a detailed embodiment of the biblical prophecy that such a cruel person will lead Russia on the eve of the end of the world,” then the ANTICHRIST will reign in the West and America.
        1. 0
          27 December 2017 17: 21
          Already begun !!!
    8. +3
      27 December 2017 07: 56
      That's right! To faint, as soon as they see on the telly! Or a photo in a magazine.
      Look what you thought up. Do not be afraid of Russia. Here we are! And "carcass light" laughing
    9. HAM
      +1
      27 December 2017 07: 58
      Everything that is described here about one person is copied from the USA itself, and you don’t need to invent anything. Change “From the Sha” to “Putin” - and that's it .. the portrait is ready.
    10. +4
      27 December 2017 07: 59
      Only the Lord is able to put an end to the “godly” evil.

      The US must be wiped off, no one can argue
    11. +2
      27 December 2017 08: 13
      But here’s what’s in reality: it’s not in Russia, but in the West that Catholic churches sell for cents for beer with toilets, it’s a real Sotonin racket in the West at the “opening of the St. Gotthard Tunnel” (dismantled in YouTube from the whole ready-made), all EU leaders gather at this opening, i.e. this is an official event, sotoninsky shabosh ...

      It is in the United States that the Church of Soton freely operates and it is there that the ideologists of Soton actively function, spreading the so-called the "gospel of the soton" with the commandments of the soton ...

      Here is such a reality ...

      But in Russia, on the contrary, the rise of traditional religions - churches of all major religions open, more and more people come to God, to Buddha)) Russia is the country of all three world religions, and all three are our historical religions in our territory, and not a new one This phenomenon is unique to Russia. This is our wealth)

      So the tantrum of the possessed is understandable ...
      1. +3
        27 December 2017 08: 37
        Quote: askme
        the rise of traditional religions
        Especially the financial recovery is noticeable.
        1. +6
          27 December 2017 10: 30
          Quote: Greenwood
          Especially the financial recovery is noticeable.

          laughing This is such a brand now ...
          1. +6
            27 December 2017 10: 47
            This is such a brand now ..

            This is translated into Russian as "bzik". lol
            1. 0
              27 December 2017 11: 19
              Phew, how disgusting it all is.
              Putin and Medvedev also do not disdain to publicize.
              1. +5
                27 December 2017 12: 20
                Quote: Alex Justice
                Putin and Medvedev also do not disdain to publicize.

                laughing So they are not communists, they are excusable wink
        2. 0
          27 December 2017 17: 25
          That's just to the Orthodox faith it has nothing to do !!!
    12. +4
      27 December 2017 08: 26
      How in the USA they are afraid of Putin

      let the paranoid damn be afraid. Americans, bang-bang-bang, why do you shoot blacks every day? Fast food fatten, and then shoot. Etttto that, national fun. Return America to the Indians, and Alaska to the Chukchi immediately! am
    13. +3
      27 December 2017 08: 26
      Yes, he’s like GDP laughing
    14. +4
      27 December 2017 08: 38
      The United States is so afraid of Putin that it imposed sanctions against his entourage, scouring consulates and removing national flags, deprived them of the right to participate in the Olympics ... horror of how to be afraid. I was not so afraid of Brezhnev. But seriously, in the West, Putin and Russia have become a horror story, and nothing more. Here China is afraid. And respected.
      1. +5
        27 December 2017 08: 59
        A very convenient tool for managing ordinary people and making money for the western elite.
    15. +2
      27 December 2017 09: 10
      History repeats itself as farce. Looking at all these far-fetched accusations, it is clear that they are afraid of a united Russia. They do not need Putin’s figure as such. It is important for them that the people as much as possible doubt their rulers and with their own hands destroy their state. Now we can safely say that Ivan the Terrible, Peter 1, Stalin are simply victims of black PR and the most unbridled propaganda. Putin is a largely inflated figure; he himself said at a press conference that "manual control is a myth." This means that Putin has little control, and besides, he is trying to ignore control by saying that “everything should be according to the law,” that is, according to the law, it was stolen, no one is to blame for the law. But the danger of the collapse of the country exists. We also have nationalism, which can undermine the regions. There is also fragmentation of the national economy, when regions build their own economic, energy and other clusters. GDP does not want to work in this direction, and his team even more so. Rather, there are a lot of declarations, but not very much.
    16. 0
      27 December 2017 09: 16
      These materials about Putin can only be ridiculed. And feel sorry for the Americans, miserable frightened and deceived people ....
    17. 0
      27 December 2017 09: 18
      ... Finally, Putin attacked the US democratic elections.
      We have it, if necessary, it will force the moon to have sex. But seriously, really do they believe in all this hr..b that they write, I understand the orders and payments, but if they believe, then this is one-off to the doctors, and all the people. After the war, the Germans were denazified; what is the name of the procedure for Americans - dedebilization?
      1. +1
        27 December 2017 12: 22
        Quote: igorra
        Americans what to call the procedure - dedebilization?

        Hmm, it could be fraught ... In the mattress film "The Deep Blue Sea", as a result of the experiment, the brain of the sharks was enlarged, whose instincts are sharpened under one thing, they can gobble it up ... Well, it started.wassat
    18. 0
      27 December 2017 09: 40
      Comparing Putin and Stalin is clearly incorrect! And the figure itself is very PR, especially inside the country.
    19. +2
      27 December 2017 10: 17
      Quote: Greenwood
      I will raise. For his early resignation. Together with friends from St. Petersburg.
      You’ll be more careful there, otherwise you’ll get wet, I will vote for him and I hope he will be re-elected again.
    20. +3
      27 December 2017 10: 30
      Dude, with this third-rate nonsense, was not tired of delving into the western mud. It seems to stomp on this. The real cheap thing. I did not read this rubbish.
    21. 0
      27 December 2017 10: 52
      Somewhere it all was already. "We are a chosen nation. God will help us." That's just the last time we were subhuman.
    22. +5
      27 December 2017 11: 14
      Contributing New President


      That's what America dreams of.
      1. 0
        27 December 2017 16: 38
        Similarly, the voice from the speakers in the St. George Hall "-President of the Russian Federation ......" laughing
      2. 0
        27 December 2017 17: 31
        History knows such examples)))
    23. 0
      27 December 2017 11: 18
      Cho want a new crusade?
    24. 0
      27 December 2017 13: 10
      Western Christmas horror stories, which we have already talked about at VO, have reached a climax. God is called America’s last hope. Only the Lord is able to put an end to the “godly” evil.
      hehe)) hello to them from Mordor)))
    25. +1
      27 December 2017 14: 56
      In my opinion, such Western scribblers should be held accountable for libel.
    26. +1
      27 December 2017 16: 28
      So let those of the Americans who are so afraid of GDP hide at least under the beds. Or shell out for the construction of bunkers.
    27. 0
      27 December 2017 16: 33
      Quote: Traveler
      State Duma deputy and United Russia Fedorov claims that GDP is under the full control of the United States and defends its position only in exceptional cases

      Well, yes ... he justified all the plans for the Navy base in Crimea, which Assad saved by the overthrow of which the lards were overthrown, I will say control to myself.
    28. +1
      27 December 2017 22: 00
      Wayfarer,
      Quote: Traveler
      But these opponents, no words, they didn’t ruin and betray the country in 91 and 93 and are now doing their dirty deed. One impenetrable stupidity, inadequacy and betrayal

      Colleague, I completely agree with you, the worst thing is human stupidity, which then comes to our side.

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