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Mikhail Khazin: The government launched an election campaign on the side of Putin’s opponents

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A month ago, Rosstat pleased the hearts of Russian citizens with the assurance that industrial production in January-October of 2017 was growing steadily, growth in October compared to September of 2017 was almost 106%. But already in December, the hearts of voters were attacked with the opposite sign.


Because the same Rosstat reports that the dynamics of industrial production in the Russian Federation in November was the weakest in the last eight years. And the fall in industrial production in November was 3,6% in annual terms.

Mikhail Khazin: The government launched an election campaign on the side of Putin’s opponents


Let's figure it out. The likelihood that in a month all that has grown over the year has fallen is bullshit. And then we must add that in reality the economic downturn in our country has already been going on for five years, from the 4 quarter of the 2012 year. And the industry is falling stronger than the economy as a whole. We can say, for example, that last year in the industrial city of St. Petersburg, the decline in industrial production was more than 10%, reaching 17%. I do not think that things are much better in other regions.

And in this situation two questions arise. First, why does Rosstat, a division of the Ministry of Economic Development, start to say that there is a recession? And second: why did they start talking about it right now? For me, the answers are obvious.

First, there are already too many lies. The gap between the official figure and the reality has become prohibitively large, and therefore, sooner or later, we must admit it. I remind you that a similar situation was in the United States in 2001, when Bush came to power, "Junior". Then the Americans organized the events of September 11 2001 of the year in order to shift the decline to objective factors.

Secondly, with regard to why Rosstat announced the information about the recession right now. Because there was Putin’s speech at a big press conference where the president, according to the government, announced that a steady economic growth had begun in the country. Accordingly, the purpose of the subsequent statement by Rosstat was to demonstrate that Putin is inadequate, that he is lying to the people. Accordingly, I perceive it as the fact that the government has entered the election campaign on the side of Putin’s opponents.

The political curators of the liberals from the government and the liberals from the Central Bank are the representatives of the world financial elite. Their ideas about the situation in our country are formed by a rather specific expert group, which includes Illarionov, Kasparov, Albats, Shevtsova, and several other people of the same type. Well, maybe more Venediktov. The degree of their adequacy, from our point of view, is not very clear. But the scenario that they play, we do not know. I do not exclude that this scenario is aimed precisely at demonstrating to the world that Putin is “a cynical dictator who throws the people of Russia”.

In order to do this, the government has enough numbers. The world will be told - look, Putin’s government has told the truth, and, accordingly, Putin is impudently lying. No one in the West will understand - Putin voiced the numbers at a press conference two hours before the release of the Rosstat figures or two hours after? I do not exclude the fact that simply in this case, the government fulfills the instructions that it received from outside. Ministers are not strategists - they are performers. We received another clear proof of whose instructions they are following.

Even before Putin’s arrival, several large elite groups were formed in the country. One of them is focused on the West - the so-called liberals. But at the same time, it is necessary to understand that this elite group, although it constitutes a very small part of the population (certainly not more than 5%, and the support of this group, too, is no more than 5%), but it controls resources. And everyone understands that if we start an operation to eliminate this elite group, we can get a whole bunch of trouble that we remember.

After all, the same group at the end of 80-x - the beginning of 90-x demonstrated that it can. Then she, for example, blocked the delivery of food to major cities. And we must be aware that this group will deal with this kind of things. This, of course, is not terrorism today, but under 30-50’s legislation, it is terrorism. And for this reason it is dangerous to start a war with them. In any case, I clearly see that Putin is extremely reluctant to start such a civil war. Another thing, if this war begins comprador group of elites. I do not exclude that the Friday statement of Rosstat is the beginning of such a war.

What should Putin do? But I can not answer this question. Because Putin’s knowledge and experience in the political situation that has developed in the country is so much higher than mine that I don’t undertake to evaluate how to behave properly in such a situation.

The plans of the West are unclear. It should be understood that the West also has its own problems, for example, that the liberal team of international financiers was in a difficult situation in the United States when Trump came to power, who strongly dislikes them. In this sense, our liberals may also have problems. I recall that Ulyukaev was arrested two weeks after Trump was elected. Therefore, I think that the situation will be extremely tense. And I do not rule out that attempts will be made at all to disrupt the elections. And the organizers of these attempts will be located outside our country.
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  1. Uncle lee
    Uncle lee 27 December 2017 06: 31 New
    22
    More than ever, the slogan of 1917 is relevant: "Down with the capitalist ministers!" negative
    1. krops777
      krops777 27 December 2017 07: 21 New
      +6
      Putin is beneficial not only to Russia, but strangely enough to the West, as long as there is tension, some people make good money on it, that Rosstat says everyone doesn’t give a damn and pay it for a long time, well, GDP cannot win the elections from 99.99 per. wink
    2. Vadim237
      Vadim237 27 December 2017 16: 17 New
      +2
      And who will work instead of them - maybe you?
      1. krops777
        krops777 27 December 2017 17: 33 New
        +6
        And who will work instead of them - maybe you?


        Yes, the point is not who will work instead of them, Rosstat does not give objective data, today some figures are tomorrow different, when the budget is to make up one, when the elections are different, it turns out that people do not believe in these data, therefore it is pointless for propaganda purposes disburse.
        1. Rostislav
          Rostislav 27 December 2017 21: 11 New
          +5
          Rosstat does not give objective data, today some figures tomorrow are different, when the budget is to make up one, when the elections are different,

          This is called "economic sabotage." Disinformation. For such things should be planted. The dismissal of "in connection with the official mismatch" as a mercy.
          1. Mih1974
            Mih1974 28 December 2017 05: 56 New
            +4
            The "grandfather of Stalin" for this under the article "wrecking" put to the wall good . It is high time.
            "Only mass executions will save Germany" (c) bully good
        2. Glory1974
          Glory1974 27 December 2017 22: 00 New
          +1
          Rosstat does not give objective data, today some numbers tomorrow others

          There is a lie, there is a blatant lie, and there are statistics.
        3. Reptiloid
          Reptiloid 29 December 2017 11: 16 New
          +1
          Quote: krops777
          And who will work instead of them - maybe you?


          Yes, the point is not who will work instead of them, Rosstat does not give objective data, today some figures are tomorrow different, when the budget is to make up one, when the elections are different, it turns out that people do not believe in these data, therefore it is pointless for propaganda purposes disburse.
          The thing is that a similar situation was about a year before. Around the same time as lemons zakharchenko. So these lotions ---- not a novelty !! Actively against the president and not only here !!!!!! Repeatedly in the history of Russia!
      2. free
        free 28 December 2017 16: 37 New
        0
        Quote: Vadim237
        And who will work instead of them - maybe you?

        Easy!
  2. shcishcok
    shcishcok 27 December 2017 07: 26 New
    14
    I have been saying for a long time that it is necessary to disperse the entire economic bloc of the government! liberals unfinished! just to merge the country to please the West.
    1. Petr1968
      Petr1968 27 December 2017 11: 25 New
      +8
      Quote: shcishcok
      I have been saying for a long time that it is necessary to disperse the entire economic bloc of the government! liberals unfinished! just to merge the country to please the West.

      You may not be aware, but "the Government of the Russian Federation has done not only everything possible, but, in my opinion, and even more: in fact, you have resolved all the issues facing the country's economy." (V.V. Putin)
      1. passing
        passing 27 December 2017 16: 33 New
        11
        "The government of the Russian Federation has done not only everything possible, but, in my opinion, and even more: in fact, you have resolved all the issues facing the country's economy." (V.V. Putin)

        The article is utter nonsense. The author of the article believes that the government is drowning Putin, but this could have been believed if Medvedev had been nominated, and since they have no representative in the elections and the only hope is to keep everything unchanged, to leave Putin. So the opposition of Putin and the government began, in short, the king is a good bad boyars!
        I think there will be many such articles, because the elite is not sure about Putin's unconditional victory
        1. yehat
          yehat 29 December 2017 12: 13 New
          +1
          I perceive the confrontation between Putin and the government differently - among our clans of criminals who divided power in the country, there are 2 large groups, which I call "lawless people" and pessimists (or conservatives). The former is represented by Medvedev, Shuvalov and others. And in essence this is the government, the latter is represented by Putin, Shoigu, to some extent Gref, etc. The latter differ from the former only in that they understand that the lawlessness of profit must have borders and that an external threat exists, and this needs to be mobilized and unfastened.
      2. Nick
        Nick 27 December 2017 22: 40 New
        0
        Quote: Petr1968
        You may not be aware, but "the Government of the Russian Federation has done not only everything possible, but, in my opinion, and even more: in fact, you have resolved all the issues facing the country's economy." (V.V. Putin)

        And would you like him to inform them on the eve of the election that after his election the whole government will go to sunny Magadan?
        You are naive.
      3. Mih1974
        Mih1974 28 December 2017 06: 08 New
        +7
        Or are we all wrong here about Putin? A victory in Syria and even Crimea is good and even “festive”, but Donbass refused to take it, Chubais is still not just not quartered, but continues to pump a lot of money out of our pockets (budget), Yes, all this scum in the Government that kills the Russian economy - the same is not without Putin’s Permission and his consent to do this. negative
        The bridge to Crimea is necessary, but at the same time, the quality of roads across Russia itself does not get any better. Where the hell are public executions (like in China) for stealing money for road repairs? How many centuries will this mess last, why in Russia can only "accidentally approved road companies from other parts of the Country" pave the way for "not growing in the spring" and only once? After that, the local administration - NEVER renews the contract, now it is really NEVER, everything returns to normal and EVERY spring - "go with the snow." am
        Yes, I’m writing truths to you, you know all this very well and I’m just quoting the fact that it’s not the first day that they’ve been hanging from the federal TV and radio channels at the very top time. And what? - Nothing !!! Just as Siluanov was sitting in his chair, he sits the same way as we had the insanely large “Central Bank key rate” in the World — all the scum in the Central Bank is in place and I even feel very wonderful. Not a single bastard by the way from this Central Bank - was in any way punished or not under a criminal case for insane funds that have been withdrawn from banks for years !! am
        YES that far to go - Zakharchenko, Ostap Bender 2.0 of our time, according to the court - ONLY he and his family, but even the last schoolboy understands that I CANNOT steal it all ONE !!!! request That he is only part of the clearly Great System of theft, corruption, etc. .. but - no one is even mentioned next to this case. negative
        1. Reptiloid
          Reptiloid 29 December 2017 14: 26 New
          +1
          All of the above ----- 90x legacy. And to what level have metastases reached? Some roots --- on the surface, some at a great depth.
          BUT it is worth recalling 1917, 90s ---- the confrontation of one person and the government. How was that !!!!! I repeat the history of the 20th century !!!!!!
          1. AUL
            AUL 30 December 2017 18: 33 New
            +2
            Enough to nod already at the 90s, this excuse has not rolled for a long time! Putin has been in power for 17 years! And if he couldn’t cut out these “metastases” for such a period, he is worthless as a leader. It is HE who forms the government (and do not say that he only approves the Cabinet), and the demand for the work of the ministries is from him!
  3. groks
    groks 27 December 2017 09: 39 New
    +7
    There is something in it, of course. Siluanov said that at 18 they will fulfill the president’s instructions for 12 (!). Is a mockery? So now also Shoigu about the same.
    But then it becomes interesting - whose interests does Putin represent?
    1. Alf
      Alf 27 December 2017 21: 44 New
      +1
      Quote: groks
      But then it becomes interesting - whose interests does Putin represent?

      Is the term "weather vane" familiar?
      1. groks
        groks 27 December 2017 21: 55 New
        +2
        It is doubtful. This implies being alone. But a loner could not become a prezik. This is out of the question.
        1. Alf
          Alf 27 December 2017 22: 00 New
          +4
          Quote: groks
          Doubtfully

          Nothing doubtful. Ivashov once said that our policy is subordinate to the interests of big business. Today, any Abramovich-Potanin-Vekselberg benefits one thing and Putin does as they say. Tomorrow will be beneficial, and Putin’s policy will sharply wander to the side, 180 degrees so. And for us, ohlos, there is probably the most powerful propaganda institution in the world.
          1. groks
            groks 27 December 2017 22: 09 New
            +1
            Well, that’s a little different. The oligarchs are biting. There must be some kind of group of interests exactly which a certain official represents. Otherwise, there will be a Brownian movement and an official with general pokes from different sides will lead to a certain average state ... inconsistency. Hmmmm - but does it seem to be so?
            1. Alf
              Alf 27 December 2017 22: 11 New
              +1
              Quote: groks
              Hmmmm - but does it seem to be so?

              It is not “like,” it is.
          2. Mih1974
            Mih1974 28 December 2017 06: 24 New
            +3
            You write nonsense, the oligarchs just had a dream come true - Ukraine is outside. I’m not talking about the moydans or that the Americans control them (they hold Faberge), I am for the fact that the authorities there completely and completely did not give a damn about the social network and ruthlessly rob (albeit stupidly) the people. Remember the “seven-boyars” —that was the holy time (and then N. Yeltsin was right - for them it was the holy time). But for some reason, Putin removed them from direct power in the country.
            After all, it was so cool to plunder up to Putin, and he "did not make a good person" forced to pay taxes, for some reason he began to spend this money on the Army.
            All would have nothing to wait further "when the good Tsar, to the bad boyars" begins to cut their heads, only Russia has reached the bottom of its "strength." This is me on the basis of information "from the bottom" of the economy, I judge from trade. The Russians - ran out of money, from the word - Quite. Oh, it’s not just about "hawchiks being rolled out from cars by cars." Even in Somalia there are shops full of goods and someone who is “well-fed” is buying them. As the "not poor" man said today to my question - where are you doing loot, because you have increased your income? And it’s time for me to make “deferred payments” !!! belay
            And he is right, the majority has been putting it off for so long - well, we will spend it later on that we are already spending it on what would be commonplace to survive. At the same time, there is a crazy collection of loans with some kind of fatality, as if people are 100% convinced that tomorrow everything will be just wonderful, or that tomorrow will not come.
            1. groks
              groks 28 December 2017 11: 06 New
              +1
              Americans keep all the oligarchs. Regardless of the place and country. Money is there, property is there.
              By killing some, I got others. Which are no different. We pay taxes on a par with the oligarchs, so paradise for them, just with us.
              About the army is better not necessary. We have a conversion in general (God forgive me!) And the rearmament has ended (oops!).
            2. Alf
              Alf 28 December 2017 19: 53 New
              0
              Quote: Mih1974
              But for some reason, Putin removed them from direct power in the country.

              He drove off the first, and promoted his friends.
              Quote: Mih1974
              for some reason I began to spend this money on the Army.

              Then, so that his overseas “partners” do not solve the oligarchs' issue specifically, once and for all.
    2. Nick
      Nick 27 December 2017 22: 42 New
      +1
      Quote: groks
      But then it becomes interesting - whose interests does Putin represent?

      Judging by deeds, then Russia's interests.
      1. Alf
        Alf 27 December 2017 22: 54 New
        +4
        Quote: Nick
        Judging by deeds, then Russia's interests.

        But he doesn’t want to look inside Russia?
      2. Mih1974
        Mih1974 28 December 2017 06: 32 New
        +5
        Do you need to list the problems of Russia, or is it your brain itself? Damn them with roads - they never existed and apparently the Sun will explode earlier than Russia will have roads, but the rest is an increase in cx. look pale against the backdrop of a global decline in price by 5% sad , essentially the national banking leader Sber - refused to come to RUSSIAN Crimea belay am , just don’t need us here about "well, they will impose sanctions on them" am . Sberbank or a Russian bank, or then do not give a damn about which Country it belongs to Whose orders it carries out, but not ours. am Heard that the "first transport company" well, this is the former part of Russian Railways (or that they didn’t give it away and stole it) - refused to buy wagons from the RUSSIAN UralVagonZavod? You see them, "the world association does not order" am
        And such examples when NOT RUSSIAN laws and Putin act in Russia did nothing to make the laws of Russia in Russia the main ones !! For this is the basis of sovereignty, only the most recent colonies have priority there is some kind of "International Law". negative And do not even try to argue for this colonial practice.
    3. yehat
      yehat 29 December 2017 12: 35 New
      0
      as they say in one joke, "is of no interest."
  4. Altona
    Altona 27 December 2017 10: 24 New
    30
    Ah, poor GDP, struggling with his own government, which he himself put up a solid five. And the government fulfilled all the tasks and the Central Bank defeated inflation. And such our hero Putin fights with himself. Nonsense all this from the paradigm "the king is good, the boyars are bad", the king with the boyars is quite at the same time. Russia should be Russia, and not the feeding trough of the "shift workers" of the oligarchs, and even officials. At a press conference, Putin was hanging noodles, and his camarilla was urgently looking for ways to make friends with the West, reconverge, justify regular collaborators, recognize the Wehrmacht equal to the Red Army, “bury” Lenin and curse Stalin or vice versa.
    1. Petr1968
      Petr1968 27 December 2017 11: 28 New
      +2
      Quote: Altona
      recognize the Wehrmacht equal to the Red Army, "bury" Lenin and curse Stalin or vice versa.

      You are joking??? Businessmen do not care about these questions from the big bell tower !!))))) Question about money !!! What Wehrmacht .. is only for this site relevant topics.
    2. Nick
      Nick 27 December 2017 22: 44 New
      0
      Quote: Altona
      At a press conference, Putin was hanging noodles, and his camarilla was urgently looking for ways to make friends with the West,

      Do not hang noodles! negative
    3. yehat
      yehat 29 December 2017 12: 38 New
      +1
      bees against honey laughing
      I want to note that all this pretense in the style of "Putin did not know" is sheer stupidity.
      with current technologies, the true situation on any issue can be obtained not even in days, but in hours.
  5. Altona
    Altona 27 December 2017 10: 42 New
    15
    Quote: groks
    But then it becomes interesting - whose interests does Putin represent?

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    How's whose? Gazprom and Rosneft. That is, the largest business in Russia and the largest exporters. Also me a Newton binom. From this shop and dance, all the puzzles will add up. The war in Syria to prevent an alternative gas pipeline to Europe from Qatar. Crimea-protection of Turkish and other gas flows there to southern Europe. The beneficiary is clearly visible - this is Gazprom. Donbass does not need Gazprom from the word at all, for example.
    1. Nick
      Nick 27 December 2017 22: 47 New
      +1
      Quote: Altona
      Quote: groks
      But then it becomes interesting - whose interests does Putin represent?
      -----------------------
      How's whose? Gazprom and Rosneft.

      That is, the state. Indeed, in both of these companies a controlling stake belongs to Russia.
      1. Sling cutter
        Sling cutter 27 December 2017 23: 04 New
        +7
        Quote: Nick
        That is, the state. Indeed, in both of these companies a controlling stake belongs to Russia.

        All this is only in your wet dreams.
        As small children, by God, look at what Gazpromneft is and the second moment all oil export from the Russian Federation is carried out through an intermediary in the person of Timchenko, who is gr. Finland, and part-time a very close friend of Putin. And most importantly, at what price does oil come to offshore Timchenko.
  6. Stirbjorn
    Stirbjorn 27 December 2017 10: 44 New
    +7
    In any case, I clearly see that Putin is extremely unwilling to start such a civil war. Another thing is if this war starts a comprador group of elites.
    What a civil war, what kind of nonsense ?! - who will go for the liberals at all wassat The usual palace coup, as they overthrew the same Milosevic, simply does not show that Putin, he intends to somehow seriously oppose. So there remains a candidate from the patriotic forces - Grudinin, who is not smeared with ties to the oligarchic thieves
    1. shura7782
      shura7782 27 December 2017 11: 15 New
      +3
      [quote = Stirbjorn] [quote] ........ So there remains a candidate from the patriotic forces - Grudinin, who is not smeared with ties to the oligarchic thief [/ quote]
      It seems that this is a weak consolation. this business is acquired.
      1. Stirbjorn
        Stirbjorn 27 December 2017 11: 43 New
        +5
        Quote: shura7782
        It seems that this is a weak consolation. this business is acquired.
        We must believe in the best! Moreover, his real affairs, for ordinary people at the state farm, are encouraging, because nothing prevented him from simply selling off state-owned fields for development and living happily with the money raised - and here he is building a school, a kindergarten, an outpatient clinic, and it gives work and a high salary for her (78 thousand cf.), apartments in installments for their hard workers, etc. You could just take them offshore, buy villas in France (as one senator) or a sports team in Europe (like oligarchs like Usmanov, Abramovich or Rybolovlev)
        1. shura7782
          shura7782 27 December 2017 14: 20 New
          +4
          . [/ quote] We must believe in the best! ......) [/ quote]
          Who would doubt, for the time being. Under the term of GDP, even the constitution was changed. He does not pull on the economy. So that I believe every beast. wink I’ll wait for you. stop
        2. dauria
          dauria 28 December 2017 00: 48 New
          +2
          Especially in his real affairs, for ordinary people on the state farm,


          Real? Okay. He robbed the former state farmers, cheaply picking up pennies for land. He personally concentrated in his hands 40% of the shares (the rest are relatives and friends of the leadership). Yes, do not get fooled by the word "state farm" - this is a closed joint-stock company. It is mixed up in a semi-legal (or rather, in smuggling) imported berries under the guise of "their own". He sold the land, after which the partner companion briskly faded. Ah, ostentatious salaries? laughing Well well. Since when is agriculture profitable in the middle lane even near the Moscow Ring Road? All normal firms, even in the Kuban, taking into account the semi-slave labor of temporary workers, cannot compete with the Turks.
          Then someone wrote that we have an unprecedented propaganda apparatus - that's for sure. A communist, a silverfish, a sort of Danko who tore his heart out ... lol Recover yourself, such people have long died, drank themselves or spat on everything. This is a scumbag, which are few. Ah, yes. Site "Military Review". Well, he did not serve in the army. laughing (by the way, judging by the Minister of Defense this is now in vogue) And they bought it for this election - here’s a toy for you, suckers, rejoice and come to the polls. And then it’s not comme il faut with Ksyusha to compete.
          1. Stirbjorn
            Stirbjorn 28 December 2017 08: 48 New
            +2
            And about the school with the kindergarten will be exposure ?! What is it, really a hypermarket and a brothel ?! - do not be shy, lay out all the truth wassat
        3. 97110
          97110 29 December 2017 11: 58 New
          +1
          Quote: Stirbjorn
          We must believe in the best!

          I have been living for a long time, so I believe more in the old: "An optimist is a well-instructed pessimist."
          Quote: Stirbjorn
          You could just take them offshore, buy villas in France there

          Or maybe just a wise man, like Putin? He doesn’t want fate to recoup on his grandchildren, for everything he bit off the excess? Usually the poor attitude of subordinates is very detrimental to the life of the commander. There are examples ...
    2. Nick
      Nick 27 December 2017 22: 53 New
      +1
      Quote: Stirbjorn
      So what remains is a candidate from the patriotic forces - Grudinin,

      As the chairman of the collective farm is ideal. As the Head of Russia, no! The scale of the personality is not the same, skills of the state. management is not enough. He would have run in at the ministerial post, and maybe in the status of deputy chairman of the ministry, but not higher, IMHO. And there it is already possible to talk about the presidency.
      1. Mih1974
        Mih1974 28 December 2017 06: 37 New
        +3
        Oh well, what they said about Putin right after the appointment: “Remember, you won’t sit in this chair for half a year,” “a gray mole.” laughing So while no real arguments against Grudinin can be heard from you.
    3. Nevyatoy
      Nevyatoy 27 December 2017 23: 48 New
      +1
      Well, probably the Rosguard was not just created and taken out of subordination of the government with direct subordination of GDP?
  7. Romin
    Romin 27 December 2017 10: 49 New
    10
    One must be a complete idiot to think that the President of the Russian Federation V.V. Putin does not control the Government of the Russian Federation.
    And the theory of the conspiracy of Rosstat against VV Putin is from the region of a flat globe on three elephants.
    The people of V.V. Putin, in danger, urgently need to unite around the President of the Russian Federation, whom the Government of the Russian Federation is cheating in a brazen and treacherous way and gives incorrect economic data.
    Something prevails over Vladimir Putin and does not allow him to resign all this liberal elite, posed by the President of the Russian Federation himself.
    Let us stand in opposed ranks against this "something", it is so strong that it rules and deceives our President. This "something" is insidious and terrible! Say ... out loud ... "something" ........ already goosebumps;)
    1. iouris
      iouris 27 December 2017 13: 50 New
      +5
      Quote: Romin
      One must be a complete idiot to think that the President of the Russian Federation V.V. Putin does not control the Government of the Russian Federation.

      This follows from the fact that the Russian Federation is a member of the WTO, and the Constitution of the Russian Federation enshrined the principle of priority of "international law". The Russian government implements the decisions of the WTO. The WTO serves as a tool for the US administration, which is a protege of TNCs.
      1. Mih1974
        Mih1974 28 December 2017 06: 40 New
        +2
        And sho? By choice, we have more than once changed the constitution and any laws. fool And you can get out of the WTO without saying “what phaloss did we enter on such shitty conditions? *. So it seems to you that Putin has just been put up or is following the direct instructions of TNCs. And in or in Russia there are no TNCs of their own.
  8. Altona
    Altona 27 December 2017 11: 34 New
    +7
    Quote: Petr1968
    You are joking??? Businessmen do not care about these questions from the big bell tower !!))))) Question about money !!! What Wehrmacht .. is only for this site relevant topics.

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    Businessmen don’t give a damn, because the West needs Russia's complete disarmament, and above all moral. Pay and repent. The ethical component will immediately pull the legal one in the form of “legitimate claims” for the “Russian presence”. You just do not see beyond your own nose.
  9. cannabis
    cannabis 27 December 2017 15: 08 New
    +2
    On the side of the President stands the Field Gendarmerie and the Secret Police. Yes, the strongest argument is the Marine Corps.
    1. Nick
      Nick 27 December 2017 22: 56 New
      +1
      Quote: cunning
      On the side of the President stands the Field Gendarmerie and the Secret Police. Yes, the strongest argument is the Marine Corps.

      The strongest argument is the People, not the Marines.
      1. cannabis
        cannabis 28 December 2017 00: 26 New
        +1
        For the last 25 years, I have not heard the word "people" from the lips of our rulers. I heard - the electorate, the population, scattered, taxpayers, consumers, ordinary citizens. And there is no people, as it were. There is neither a clan nor a tribe, but there is a TIN, SNILS, bank card number, pocket phone number, account number and number in the queue.
  10. Bootlegger
    Bootlegger 27 December 2017 15: 46 New
    +7
    Khazin absolutely accurately assessed the situation - confirmation appeared today, a small bell - the shooting in Moscow-Menshevik factory has just ended. the owner, according to RIA Averyanov, is to blame himself, he started shooting, the hostages say, but as Kuzma spoke, look at the root, the owner Averyanov started shooting because of debts, protecting his business from being seized. -DOLGES - the factory owed more than 141 to one of the creditors million rubles. An amicable agreement was concluded, according to which the former owner of the enterprise, Ilya, was to give the factory building to repay the debt. like a lot, but in euros it's 2 mil. a little room on the outskirts of the city is more expensive. and here is the factory — but the strangest one — Shamsutdin Radjabov filed for bankruptcy, his position is not specified .. Bankrupt is the factory. For 2 mil euros! —The area of ​​the factory’s territory is about 15 thousand square meters. There are two five-story buildings connected by a passage. And the statement at the time of Ilya Averyanov, “I am the director. I'm sitting here now, barricaded myself ... They seized the factory from fake documents, ruined me. I have eight children. You know, I’ve been fighting for four years ... This morning I came to work, they began to take me by storm - with pistols, with weapons, ”a Business FM radio station man said. So it’s too early to recall corruption in 404, when this happens in Moscow. collecting the numbers and the statement of the murdered Averyanov. the surname of the one who wanted to take the factory bankrupt
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 27 December 2017 16: 29 New
      +3
      "DEBT - the factory owed one of its creditors more than 141 million rubles." The owner himself is not to blame for the FIG to take loans from anyone, he was divorced as a sucker. With microloans, the same nonsense - people do not even read what they sign. Everyone thinks now, I’ll do it quickly, but no, there’s no free cheese, and the one in the mousetrap costs money too.
      1. Bootlegger
        Bootlegger 27 December 2017 17: 09 New
        +7
        Well, yes, divorced, sucker, say it’s your own fault, strange logic, however, you have to blame the chicken because the fox is hungry. - you have a high level of consciousness-- the Russian Guard and the police helped to squeeze the factory from Ilya Averyanov, and is everything all right? It’s my fault. Are the people themselves to blame for Russia? Eh VADIM, who raised you like that?
        1. gladcu2
          gladcu2 27 December 2017 21: 18 New
          +2
          The state should control the situation with loans.

          To take or not to take a loan is similar to the need to drive an elephant to a pharmacy, and then accuse him of slowness.
          1. Alf
            Alf 27 December 2017 21: 49 New
            +2
            Quote: gladcu2
            The state should control the situation with loans.

            Question-Why did the state generally allow micro loans? To have your share. Everything else that is not of interest to the state is either not being implemented or closes very quickly.
            1. Vadim237
              Vadim237 28 December 2017 18: 10 New
              0
              The state does not have anything from these microloans, since most of these offices are “on the left”.
              1. Alf
                Alf 28 December 2017 19: 54 New
                0
                Quote: Vadim237
                State

                I mean, the state is somewhat close.
        2. Vadim237
          Vadim237 28 December 2017 18: 25 New
          0
          You believe in this crap more that he has pressed something, he himself is not an angel, he took the barrel, slammed the guard, and kept the salary for the workers. And I think during the investigation a lot of things will be revealed on this "entrepreneur". Entrepreneurs only get into our business when: they take a loan from the devil who knows, subsidies and allow third-party officials to enter the enterprise management, etc. And the guys do not oppose, they are not deliberately afraid. A local official wanted to blackmail one guy, they say you won’t take part in the criminal case, etc. etc. - the guy recorded the conversation and sent it to the prosecutor’s office, now this official is sitting with his comrades.
  11. midshipman
    midshipman 27 December 2017 16: 55 New
    12
    Michael correctly raises questions. Industry is managed only by corporations and concerns. But only those enterprises that are included there. Recently there was a report on the liquidation of more than 300 single-industry towns, as the enterprises in which these single-industry towns went bankrupt. Readers, think about this event. Kaka lose his job in the city, and with it the livelihood. In the beginning of the 80s, I had to create three enterprises in order to ensure employment (Minradioprom). These are Almetyevsk, Partizansk and Chervonograd. But I, the head of the GU, had a salary of 600 rubles and a bonus. Minister Pleshakov P.S. 2000 rubles. Look at the salaries of the current ministers and their wives, children. Until order is put in place to combat corruption, confiscation of property and the death penalty for damage to the state, we will not raise industry. Certain circles will sabotage this growth and look west. Build cottages abroad (the mayor of N-Novgorod, the former minister of agriculture) and steal. I have the honor.
  12. gerkost2012
    gerkost2012 27 December 2017 19: 13 New
    +9
    So what then is the role of the president of the Russian Federation? After all, it is he who is the head of the executive branch, and if he has such a government, then it is the president who must either believe in everything or disperse this gang working for the western masters. Can not? Then there’s nothing to fuss about, which means Russia will have another five years of floundering in mud and lies. Does the country afford?
    1. Alf
      Alf 27 December 2017 21: 53 New
      +3
      Quote: gerkost2012
      Russia will have another five years of floundering in mud and lies.

      Why five years? Six.
      Quote: gerkost2012
      Does the country afford?

      Where will she go? From every iron, they will explain to us 25 hours a day that everything is done in Moscow correctly and on time, the crisis, the trump, the dollar, the Chinese, the Basmachis from Syria or the independents are to blame ...
    2. Mih1974
      Mih1974 28 December 2017 06: 46 New
      +1
      No, it will not, according to information from "people on the earth" - the loot among the people has ended. FSE, already going on and on, bankruptcy and closures of already small and smallest businesses will go on like an avalanche. The next step will be the ruin of large retailers - leaving the market and the revival of petty trade, but ALREADY, again there will be huge masses of homeless people (they will start throwing out the street for non-payment of utility bills), again the "Russian cross" mortality will exceed much of the birth rate. Well and further along the spiral.
  13. andrej-shironov
    andrej-shironov 27 December 2017 19: 43 New
    +9
    Dear Michael! Do not once again shut off Putin! Putin and the twin liberals are brothers! The author once again raises the electorate before the election. To vote for Putin. But this is a dead end! This is a vote for losing!
    1. free
      free 28 December 2017 16: 44 New
      +2
      Quote: andrej-shironov
      Dear Michael! Do not once again shut off Putin! Putin and the twin liberals are brothers! The author once again raises the electorate before the election. To vote for Putin. But this is a dead end! This is a vote for losing!

      Vote for Grudinin, new people in power! Everyone to the polls!
  14. Earnest
    Earnest 27 December 2017 21: 47 New
    +1
    Quote: krops777

    Yes, the point is not who will work instead of them, Rosstat does not give objective data, today some figures are tomorrow different, when the budget is to make up one, when the elections are different, it turns out that people do not believe in these data, therefore it is pointless for propaganda purposes disburse.

    Everything is much worse, and you have to look at the root! The problem is that Putin announced the wrong data! But did someone from his team prepare them for him? So where did the nit start? Or simply we are constantly being deceived by the government, by Putin.
  15. Overlock
    Overlock 27 December 2017 22: 29 New
    +2
    Quote: Earnest
    Or we’re just constantly being deceived by the government, that Putin

    and they lie, and he lies. Nobody wants to answer topical questions.
  16. vlad.svargin
    vlad.svargin 29 December 2017 13: 33 New
    +1
    Mikhail Khazin: The government launched an election campaign on the side of Putin’s opponents
    .
    It is not surprising if, in fact, it has remained Gaidar so far and practically has permanent residence either in Europe or in the USA, and these are definitely agents of influence of the State Department ...
  17. Sergey-8848
    Sergey-8848 30 December 2017 16: 56 New
    0
    Good wording: "I do not exclude," or "Maybe." This is for forensic experts (professional people in many industries who have studied for this, and continuing to specialize in a narrow field of knowledge), but not for people who are also fussing to call themselves experts. Too bad the hell of experts got divorced thanks to the Internet.
  18. would
    would 31 December 2017 02: 34 New
    +1
    Another article the message of which is "The king is good, the boyars are bad." However, here you should immediately ask a question

    The whole article assures us that the government is working against Putin to spoil his choice. Then who does this government work for? For whose sake does it drown Putin? Who else can win the election?

    We all know the answer. There is not a single candidate in the election who could at least compete with Putin. I am already silent about how to win. All candidates are a crowd of supposedly democratic elections when the winner is known in advance. And in such a simple way to sink Putin in the “elections” is impossible simply because of the lack of candidates.

    To the only (alas, there are no others) candidate who could make up at least some competition was specifically removed from the game by the Kirovles case, which was considered within the framework of the principle of prejudice, that is, the court did not even consider the issue of Navalny's guilt. As part of the prejudice, she is initially guilty and has no right to defense, cannot refute the charges. Whether they are real or not is another matter.

    So the article is obvious bullshit in defense of Putin using the “boyars” as a lightning rod to which all the consequences of Putin’s activities can be diverted.
  19. polkovnik manuch
    polkovnik manuch 1 January 2018 18: 11 New
    +1
    What is true is true! The 70-75 percent government consists of “shift workers” and “effective managers” whose wives, children, close relatives have big business. The upcoming elections are very scary for them - the crisis lasting for years, the impoverishment of the population suggest that the country will face big changes and many of the ministers will fly from their posts, from the "feeding trough" - sharing in favor of "their" money from the state budget. Oddly enough, Trump is playing on the side of Russia now, having made a statement about whose money and how much the top stores in what banks. Discontent in the country has not yet been clearly manifested, but there is practically no economic growth, the period of stagnation is clearly delayed, and the GDP, naturally after the elections, will be forced to take drastic measures to restore order. I think very many now unsinkable "will go to the bottom" including "red". Otherwise, unpredictable events may be triggered. Decisions at the top need to be made "yesterday." At the head of the country should (must!) Be the GDP, there are simply no other worthy candidates capable of bloodlessly "resolving" the current situation.
  20. Stin 55
    Stin 55 8 January 2018 09: 33 New
    +1
    The Cabinet of Ministers in general, and individual Ministries in particular, is a SERPENTARY, for the simple "Viper". And no one can be trusted, neither Medvedev nor Putin (one field of a berry).
    The author cited the “example” of Peter ... more “I don’t think that things are going much better in other regions.” In Russia as a whole, for the entire “board of PredMedov” - FULL DISCONTINUATION - THE CRASH OF INDUSTRY. In all sectors. From the production of sewing needles to heavy machinery. Everywhere you throw a wedge. It's corny - REDUCED EVERYTHING!
    There is no doubt that Putin will prevail in the election (he who counts, he counts). And I am sure that this “term” will be not so much the last for Putin himself, but for ALL Russia. I don’t even doubt for a moment.
    After all, he has EVERYTHING. If the President says “white,” take it as “black.” If Putin says “rise,” it means DECLINE, collapse ... If he says that inflation is -12%, then multiply by at least 5 (five).
    From his first appearance in the "big arena", he never put forward any program, never participated in the OPEN debate (and will not participate now).
    Forgotten the commandment of Christ, which often was repeated by Stalin - ... Judge by business ...
    "OUR" presidential candidate constantly speaks of support for "small and medium-sized businesses", in fact - try to open a bicycle repair shop ... How long will you last and what debts will go broke ?!
    We remove the “blinkers” from the eyes and what we see, or rather we don’t see, we don’t let out children's scooters, like bicycles. Mopeds, scooters, motorcycles - imported China (!). What happened was destroyed, razed to the ground.
    ZIL, AZLK factories LIQUIDATED in Moscow ... answer yourself - Russia no longer needs steel trucks of medium tonnage? ZILs, dump trucks and airborne "cut" throughout the USSR, in the Army. ZIL-MMZ 555 dump trucks were exported to 50 (fifty) countries of the World (!).
    There is no account for such enterprises! We ourselves SEE IT ALL! You think they stop at this and begin to revive. No! Do not start. Not for this they took power. Breaking, destroying and destroying - that’s THEIR PROBLEM and they cope with this task by 5+ (five plus).