New Year, Christmas, Russian trolls and Baba Yaga: the tales and myths of the peoples of the West

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On New Year’s Eve, Russians and Putin are portrayed in the West as trolls and witchers. No wonder: Christmas is a time of fairy tales, reminds a German columnist Jacob Augstein. But now adults and children are frightened by the most terrible tale about the “evil Russian Putin,” whose army of trolls sows real unrest in Europe.





There is “practically no evidence,” the main thing is “to believe in it,” ironically Jacob Augstein, whose article was published in the German edition. "Der Spiegel".

Christmas is really a fairy tale time. And in some cases, the impression is created, the author notes, that other politicians of the West “were inspired” by Christmas.

A terrible tale comes from the "evil Kremlin gentleman Putin and his trolls." This army causes anxiety to Europeans "by all means."

From the point of view of mythology, it's pretty funny, says Augstein. But politically it is dangerous. If someone believes in horror stories about Putin "is firm enough", then these "terrible stories"Suddenly" acquire the features of reality. "

And here is the last fabulous episode: Russian submarines in the Atlantic and the Mediterranean supposedly "watch" the transfer of data via Western cables. “Of course, it would be arrogance: after all, only Americans are allowed to do this!” Laughs Augstein.

In any case, NATO has not filed any complaints against USS Jimmy Carter, a heavily armed special US Navy submarine that appears to control transatlantic Internet traffic. But the high-ranking NATO chief complained in Sportloto to the Washington Post newspaper, reporting on "Russia's activities near submarine cables."

The problem with such messages is known: the average citizen is not able to verify them. Like a journalist. Yes, perhaps there are submarines. Or maybe not.

In any case, such messages "reinforce people's sense of uncertainty," the author writes. And with regard to the Russians, “the uncertainty is already great.”

In Russian fairy tales there is such a character - baba-yaga. This is an evil forest witch, moving in a mortar through the forest. It "erases" its traces with a broom. She lives in a house on chicken legs.

No, such a description “does not relate directly to Russian President Vladimir Putin, who loves dark sunglasses and likes to walk without a shirt,” the author says ironically. But, like Baba Yaga, Putin is now the embodiment of evil in the West, even the "root of all evil."

Western politicians and journalists tirelessly accuse Russians of distorting reality, and thus they themselves distort reality. It has nothing to do with fairy tales. But it has to do with pathology in politics, the German believes.

Evidence, we note, on the topic of "women-yagis," "trolls," revived at Christmas, as well as submarines, whose inhabitants are "watching" other people's cables, of course, are absent. Why are they in fairy tales? What average German or American will require evidence from storytellers? The one who needs facts can filter out clean texts in the media from dirty ones, and can also compare and compare. Such a person may even go further and ask himself: who are these NATO storytellers themselves?

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  1. +1
    26 December 2017 07: 55
    MYTHS The peoples of developed democracy.
    1. +6
      26 December 2017 08: 18
      The whole tale of the Vienna Woods ended with the victory of Santa Claus over Santa .. wassat
      Quote: Teberii
      MYTHS The peoples of developed democracy.
      1. +2
        26 December 2017 14: 10
        Western politicians and journalists tirelessly blame Russians in the distortion of reality, and thereby they themselves distort reality. ...... this has to do with pathology in politics, the German believes.
        This is a very important point, because in the theory of management such “Christmas fairy tale charms” is nothing more than the action of changing the parameters at the INPUT for society in order to obtain the historical data necessary for world managers at the OUTPUT.
        And the binding of Christmas tales in the media to warships and other military equipment, to the Russian ethnic group and to Putin indicates the hostile actions of the respective special services in Washington from the Pentagon on NATO countries.
    2. +1
      26 December 2017 08: 44
      Santa Claus WINS FOREVOR
      1. +9
        26 December 2017 10: 38
        Yes, we have a rich and distinctive Country. And We still have heroes. For some reason they forgot about them. smile
        1. +5
          26 December 2017 11: 04
          Victor, my respect hi Let me add a video to your picture.
          good
          1. +4
            26 December 2017 11: 08
            Good day, Sergey! hi
            Favorite movie of my childhood. With your favorite actors. good smile
            1. +5
              26 December 2017 11: 10
              This is a song with a video sequence from our fairy tales. feel drinks
              1. +4
                26 December 2017 13: 48
                Quote: Svarog51
                This is a song with a video sequence from our fairy tales. feel drinks

                laughing He responded to the screenshot. There was no time to watch, ran away to work. I will take a look now. smile drinks
                1. +4
                  26 December 2017 13: 57
                  Quote: Svarog51
                  I’ll add a video to your picture.

                  good Thank you, I was glad. I have long sunk into the moment where the Russian squad is preparing for the last battle with the Byzantines.
                  1. +5
                    26 December 2017 14: 06
                    You're welcome, hi For a good person nothing is sorry. drinks drinks drinks
    3. +9
      26 December 2017 08: 49
      and who are these NATO storytellers themselves?

      And what kind of people, such are the tales. wink
      1. +2
        26 December 2017 08: 51
        Happy New Year and Merry Christmas! (funny !!!! military brutal !!!!)

        https://matveychev-oleg.livejournal.com/6640384.h
        tml
      2. +2
        26 December 2017 12: 21
        It’s clear why.
        If you come at the door, the hosts will pour a stack good .
        And if late at night through a pipe - no. And everything is already drunk in the house sad .
    4. +2
      26 December 2017 17: 42
      The Olympic Games, Eurovision, have now reached Christmas ... they have scattered the spirit of many traditions, ideas and ideas. The spirit of OI, the idea of ​​Eurovision, and now the tradition of Christmas. Western civilization is pushing itself to collapse.
  2. +4
    26 December 2017 07: 55
    There is "practically no evidence," the main thing is to "believe it,"

    we have them, but they are strictly secret laughing
  3. +10
    26 December 2017 07: 58
    forgotten more zombie athletes under the guidance of Kashchei-muddy
    1. +3
      26 December 2017 08: 00
      Kashchei-Mutnoy is probably more correct.
      1. +3
        26 December 2017 08: 23
        MYTHS The peoples of developed democracy.
        forgotten more zombie athletes under the guidance of Kashchei-muddy
        ... and Russian hackers wassat
      2. +1
        26 December 2017 08: 55
        Quote: Teberii
        Kashchei-Mutnoy is probably more correct.

        No, I don’t think ... Kashchei Mutnyy is a "title" (nickname) ... Charlemagne was in history! wink But Kashchei Mutko is the name and surname. bully
        1. 0
          26 December 2017 09: 00
          So everything needs to be called by its proper name, as it is.
    2. +10
      26 December 2017 08: 50
      Roma hi These are their boats over the cable curl, and we have water. laughing
      1. +5
        26 December 2017 09: 25
        Ltd! but they forgot about the flying ship - the aircraft carrier of the future! soldier
      2. +2
        26 December 2017 09: 27
        Good morning Sergey! hi , they forget that we still have a little boy.
        1. +5
          26 December 2017 10: 20
          Victor, Roma hi So maybe right away Ilya Muromets will tell you about striped people, here he drives them nobly.
          1. +4
            26 December 2017 10: 25
            only cook more chalk, so that by the rules
            1. +5
              26 December 2017 10: 30
              Why do they need chalk? After Ilyushin’s blow, all the chalk from the face will fly off, why should I spend it?
              1. +8
                26 December 2017 10: 42
                there was a joke, our quarrel Ilyusha quarreled with D "Artanyan, we went out to fight. Aramis draws a point with chalk at Elijah, ours - what the hell is it? Aramis - at this point my friend will have the honor to hit you! ours - aah, well, Dobrynyushka, sprinkle this freak with chalk and give my club!
                1. +5
                  26 December 2017 10: 53
                  A good joke, I would listen to his sworn friends, maybe something would come to pass.
                  1. +4
                    26 December 2017 10: 54
                    hardly reach, just drive in!
                    1. +4
                      26 December 2017 11: 06
                      Roma, this is not our method. While they sit quietly and do not climb - we will not touch.
              2. +7
                26 December 2017 11: 18
                Quote: Svarog51
                After Ilyushin’s blow, all the chalk from the face will fly off,


                Yes, not only chalk, but also acne showered wassat ...
                1. +5
                  26 December 2017 14: 36
                  Alexander hi
                  Yes, not only chalk, but also acne showered
                  good
                  So also with his head, Ilya is a stern man.
                  Threat. Happy New Year, Comrade Major. Present from "Nivavod" to "Nivavod". And here is a little more.
                  wink drinks
                  1. +7
                    27 December 2017 08: 43
                    Thanks, and you with the upcoming! drinks
                    It’s a pity I can’t see the video on my working computer ... I’ll have to endure it before home ... crying Well, yes, we are not offended by patience ... bully
                    1. +5
                      27 December 2017 08: 55
                      Alexander hi Well, you have a monster boss. Well, you can’t have a computer without the ability to watch a video or listen to Mouzon. belay This is a violation of the freedom of access to information. You at the New Year's corporate party put a question edge on. Either we use vidyuhi and acoustics on computers, or tomorrow we will not hangover. wink good drinks
                      1. +7
                        27 December 2017 09: 43
                        Sergey, so he pays us corporate party for 2/3 ... wassat Tomorrow... good And on Friday he will hangover ... Himself ...
                        Only, he says, if you don’t disconnect YouTube, then the diesel engines in the fleet will not be repaired at all ...
                2. +5
                  27 December 2017 09: 51
                  It was he who thoughtlessly blurted out. You can find so many interesting and useful things to repair naval diesel engines in YouTube. And the song "helps us build and live," yeah. A good song only increases productivity. Alexander, convey these thoughts to your boss, otherwise we will remain without diesel engines.
                  Threat I propose friendship and the "you" go.
                  1. +7
                    27 December 2017 10: 05
                    Well with the songs we’re not tough. You can listen. Just not loudly.
                    And for friendship drinks drinks good I always just like that ... fellow
                  2. +8
                    27 December 2017 10: 20
                    And by the way .. Happy holiday! fellow drinks drinks

                    Only chur in moderation ... drinks
                    1. +5
                      27 December 2017 10: 26
                      Thank you!
                      Only chur in moderation ... drinks

                      So I don’t care until the evening, I’ll have to drive. On return, I’m sure. drinks drinks drinks
                      Write more comments - you will grow faster in rank. Now I will see to it that it does not linger. soldier
                      1. +7
                        27 December 2017 11: 29
                        Quote: Svarog51
                        Write more comments


                        Yes, we don’t particularly sign at work ... crying And at home the kid at the computer ... I sometimes break through ... With a fight ... laughing
                        Well now at work it has become quieter ... You can not relax a lot.
                3. +5
                  27 December 2017 11: 56
                  Yes, it's complicated. A computer is an individual thing. It is better, if possible, to get your own device and so that no one but you will climb there. In this regard, I have an order - my daughter, my own (though it’s not dead), my wife’s laptop, which she did not even learn to turn on. So I rented it before repairing it.
                  1. +7
                    27 December 2017 12: 26
                    Quote: Svarog51
                    Better get your own machine if possible


                    Already the second ... The first died from the onslaught of the rising generation in a month.
                    It is good that the wife does not know which side to approach them, otherwise I would only work for computers ... wassat
                    1. +4
                      27 December 2017 12: 37
                      Already the second ... The first died

                      The story is painfully familiar. I have a generation that is growing up, already approaching 30, so there is no danger from this side. I have another problem - all sorts of pets are different. Sanya, here is my mail [email protected] can you write there? And then both get on the withers for off-topic communication. For one, I'll show you pictures.
      3. +1
        26 December 2017 13: 26
        Our characters sometimes become evil not on their own, but from personal and domestic disorder:
        Water - an amateur enthusiast, invested in the aircraft industry and burned out - now forced to huddle in his "Far Eastern hectare", which turned out to be a swamp, does not have access to clean drinking water;
        Baba Yaga - a lonely grandmother with a small pension, living in a dilapidated (from loud speech starts to “dance”) fund with stove heating, dentistry cannot afford (her teeth always hurt), her leg is bone - one can only dream of normal prosthetics;
        Koschei the Deathless - the ideological accountant-altruist, who has accumulated for his wedding only in old age, is afraid of marriage speculators (“he is withering over gold”), who is skinny from malnutrition and is nervous;
        The Dragon - stands for equality, why he has three non-negotiable heads, lives in a cave without electricity and gas (not interested in natural monopolies), because he cannot get decent work because of his originality, suffers from heartburn from eating raw food;
        Leshy - a forester who has lost his job, he has a wife in general - Kikimora! laughing

  4. +1
    26 December 2017 08: 00
    Og .. their national fairy tales, where the main character is a crook and a loafer, fed up with the geyropeytsami. laughing
    1. +1
      26 December 2017 09: 32
      Quote: DEPHIHTO
      Oga .. their national tales, where the main character is a crook and a loafer,

      Well drags our main loafer Emelya lol he even managed to arrive at the reception to the tsar without getting down from the stove lol
      1. +1
        26 December 2017 09: 44
        Emelya is not a loafer .. Emelya is a progressive innovator wink
        1. +1
          26 December 2017 09: 49
          Quote: DEPHIHTO
          ..Emelya progressive innovator

          and pike hell hto? laughing
          1. 0
            26 December 2017 09: 58
            How hto? Ordinary performer of Emelya innovative idea .. bully He always came up with one (and removed the foam), the other performs .. laughing
            1. +1
              26 December 2017 10: 07
              Quote: DEPHIHTO
              He always came up with one (and removed the foam), the other performs ..

              not life, but a fairy tale. some won, others ascribed victory to themselves. angry
              1. +1
                26 December 2017 10: 14
                There is something there ... apparently learning from fairy tales .. winked
          2. +2
            26 December 2017 10: 27
            Quote: LSA57
            and pike hell hto? laughing

            Well, the pike, like the goldfish, are "decals." wassat
  5. 0
    26 December 2017 08: 06
    As the saying goes, "there is no smoke without fire."
    As a person who once studied special propaganda, I do not think that all American (European) actions to investigate the actions of Russian hackers (trolls) are completely groundless. Well, they’re not really stupid.
    Again, "a fairy tale is a lie, but a hint in it ..."
    1. +5
      26 December 2017 08: 21
      Quote: trampoline instructor
      As the saying goes, "there is no smoke without fire."
      As a person who once studied special propaganda, I do not think that all American (European) actions to investigate the actions of Russian hackers (trolls) are completely groundless. Well, they’re not really stupid.
      Again, "a fairy tale is a lie, but a hint in it ..."

      Yes and how do you like them to troll, and we all filled with honor and dignity ass butt them and apologized? Hare to play knights!
      1. +1
        26 December 2017 08: 38
        1. Honestly, I didn’t want to :))
        2. I (unlike some) are not specialists in "tasks" and their positions.
        3. The Russian language is rich enough, and you can easily refuse to use children's slang vocabulary such as "Hare".
        4. In this context, the word "to" is written together.
        5. Your entire post confirms the old truth: "we all have brave scouts; and our enemies have only vile spies."
        1. +1
          26 December 2017 09: 00
          My whole post was that it makes no difference to me how our people will win, and preferably by their own methods. But you didn’t understand this from your own boring, and you got distracted by the topic of the ass, and the key was the Knight! hi I bow for the sim since we will not find a common language with you.
          1. 0
            26 December 2017 09: 26
            Yes, yes, now we’ll analyze the proposal and find a keyword that answers the questions “who? What?” :))
            Of course, we will not find the language. But I didn’t pester anyone with stupid comments. wassat
    2. +3
      26 December 2017 09: 03
      Let's start with the fact that they do it for a long time and constantly. And now a purely psychological moment: can they believe that Moscow does not do this, for the inaudible reason, that it is said to be "indecent"?
  6. +10
    26 December 2017 08: 07
    But now adults and children are frightened by the most terrible tale - about the “evil Russian Putin.” There is “practically no evidence”, the main thing is “to believe it”
    1. +10
      26 December 2017 08: 13
      The Kremlin’s Arm is listed in the Guinness Book of Records as the longest arm in the world.
  7. +2
    26 December 2017 08: 09
    “Of course, that would be arrogance: after all, only Americans are allowed to do this!”
    Young German - with irony and in my hidden sadness about the independence of Germany. And if you listen to the British military again, you get the impression that the Russians are ready to gnaw their underwater cables with their teeth to carry out their “world aggression”.
    Baba Yaga. This is an evil forest witch
    indeed for some reason (according to fairy tales) there was such an opinion. But some connoisseurs of Russian folklore say that Baba Yaga was a healer and not a harmful woman.
    1. 0
      26 December 2017 08: 51
      Quote: rotmistr60
      Baba Yaga was a healer and not a harmful woman.

      By mood, exclusively by mood. A granny with a bone leg, by definition, cannot be kind and sweet all the time. Being determines consciousness.
    2. +5
      26 December 2017 09: 00
      Gennady, I welcome hi
      But some connoisseurs of Russian folklore say that Baba Yaga was a healer and not a harmful woman.

      That's true, here is her true confession
      good
      1. +3
        26 December 2017 09: 34
        “Ariel” also had a positive song about Baba Yaga
        1. +4
          26 December 2017 10: 23
          This song? Like no other. good good good
          1. +3
            26 December 2017 10: 26
            Well, yes, such a touching crying
            1. +4
              26 December 2017 10: 32
              Train, if Che, I will prompt in more detail.
    3. +1
      26 December 2017 09: 01
      Well, for 10 fairy tales about the good Baba Yaga, I can only remember 1 fairy tale where BY was a pure evil.
  8. +1
    26 December 2017 08: 11
    But we haven’t invented the holidays Halloween and Valentine's Day, which glorify the dead and sexual minorities, respectively. tongue
  9. 0
    26 December 2017 08: 24
    ".. complained to the Sportloto newspaper of the Washington Post .." It's just a fabulous pearl. For some reason, poor for a miserable attempt at self-irony. Motsk is there indignantly boiling at the Bundes when they read like baba-iaga in a stupe metloi in the Black Forest. does he notice traces, basking periodically in izbuschke na kuriich nozhkach? They are stupid because they do not have enough letters in the alphabet, I tell you exactly.
  10. +1
    26 December 2017 08: 30
    And here is the last fairy tale episode:

    But its essence is that the Russians are sleeping and see this "nyashka" on the presidential throne
    1. +2
      26 December 2017 11: 57
      Like Yeltsin.
  11. 0
    26 December 2017 08: 47
    Great article. About world politics through folklore
    1. +1
      26 December 2017 09: 05
      Not really. GDP is still not Baba Yaga (forest hermit witch), but Dark Lord from Evil Empire. (C) R. Reagan.
      Do you see the difference in scale? "Darkest" is still the imperial title ...
  12. +2
    26 December 2017 08: 49
    Quote: Oleg Chuvakin
    In Russian fairy tales there is such a character - baba-yaga. This is an evil forest witch, moving in a mortar through the forest. It "erases" its traces with a broom. She lives in a house on chicken legs.

    There is such a look at the activity of this folklore element:
  13. +5
    26 December 2017 09: 18
    But this has to do with pathology in politics, the German believes.


    This is the pathology of the whole West.
    1. +4
      26 December 2017 09: 39
      and apparently not being treated! (C) "Surgically, only surgically"
  14. +1
    26 December 2017 09: 36
    Well, here’s an ordinary morning of a Russian person. Woke up, got out of bed. I went for a walk with a tame bear, fed him. I drank a glass of vodka, ate a hedgehog yesterday. He played the "mistress" on the balalaika, put on his boots and went to work. At work, along with reading e-mail, he habitually hacked several Western sites, interfered in the elections of some Indalupa and Quasitania. He drank a glass of vodka again and prayed for a portrait of Putin. laughing hi
    1. +1
      26 December 2017 10: 39
      Morning vodka was taken from the matryoshka. And they drank evening vodka from a samovar.
  15. +1
    26 December 2017 09: 56
    ((There is "practically no evidence", the main thing is to "believe it",))

    M-d-ah! That’s what it means, “European dites” are small! Without fairy tales, even worse, they can’t live! I won’t be surprised that a “fairy tale” will appear in Poland that the Russian Baba Yaga with the rank of FSB Major was shot down by Lech Kaczynski’s plane.
  16. +2
    26 December 2017 10: 42
    Our Baba Yaga, especially in the performance of Millar, is the charm itself ... A lonely woman in the forest - if you don’t want to, you will become laughing

    1. +5
      26 December 2017 11: 15
      Well, "Underwater King"?
      "Is your daughter beautiful? Very! All in me!"
  17. 0
    26 December 2017 10: 49
    Well yes. The Russians are to blame for everything http://rusvesna.su/news/1514260180
  18. 0
    26 December 2017 11: 12
    Quote: igordok
    Morning vodka was taken from the matryoshka. And they drank evening vodka from a samovar.

    -----------------------------------
    Not really. Borsch remained in the samovar. laughing
  19. 0
    26 December 2017 11: 18
    If Western media are already laughing about the pathological fear and propaganda of Russia - what is the real nonsense in the heads of all these European politicians.
    Suspicious, hysterical, depressive - the image of a medieval European immediately arises: in rags, not combed, not washed, eating raw meat, with a craving for violence and sadism.
    How many of them do not turn into people - the Neanderthal man takes his.
  20. 0
    26 December 2017 11: 19
    If Western media are already laughing about the pathological fear and propaganda of Russia - what is the real nonsense in the heads of all these European politicians.
    Suspicious, hysterical, depressive - the image of a medieval European immediately arises: in rags, not combed, not washed, eating raw meat, with a craving for violence and sadism.
    How many of them do not turn into people - the Neanderthal man takes his.
  21. +2
    26 December 2017 13: 00
    In Russian fairy tales there is such a character - Baba Yaga. it evil forest witchmoving in a mortar through the forest. She erases her tracks with a broom. She lives in a house on chicken legs.

    Niipraaavda! You fso Vreotii !! I'm good!
    I used to be harmful, the patamushta lived in a fox.
  22. +1
    27 December 2017 14: 12
    Russia needs a strong army, in case the second Hitler comes to power somewhere in the world

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