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Russian specialists create high-speed UAV

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RIA News With reference to an unnamed source in the military-industrial complex reports that in Russia work is underway to create a high-speed unmanned aerial vehicle. It is stated that the Simonov Design Bureau is engaged in work, which has concluded a corresponding contract with the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation.


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The project involves the creation of a heavy UAV with a mass of about 4-5 tons, which will fly at a speed of 750-950 km / h. It must be equipped with a turbojet engine, providing unmanned aircraft flight speeds at least twice the speed of the screw drone of the same class.


It is reported that at the moment in the Kazan Simonov design bureau is developing a UAV of the similar dimension "Altair". This is a medium-altitude UAV, the duration of which flight will be up to 48 hours.

Russian specialists create high-speed UAV


It is noted that a new Russian drone is being developed, which may be characterized by the analogy with the Avenger UAV (Predator C).
This is an American multi-purpose drone, which is actively used to solve various kinds of problems around the world, including Iraq and Syria.
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  1. Sergey53
    Sergey53 26 December 2017 07: 03 New
    +4
    All this is very good, the question is when?
    1. Teberii
      Teberii 26 December 2017 07: 11 New
      +1
      We need to practically start with 0. In this area, we have no developments. If everything goes well, then within a year the result can be seen.
      1. Leeds
        Leeds 26 December 2017 07: 19 New
        18
        For what? Of the year? I hope this, 2017?) 4 more working days, you can do something.
        I am pleased with this approach - they have hundreds in service and are stamped like pies, but we do not. But what we are developing is many times better and has no analogues. And everyone immediately felt better.
        1. Chertt
          Chertt 26 December 2017 07: 29 New
          +2
          Quote: Leeds
          For what? Of the year? I hope this, 2017?) 4 more working days, you can do something.

          Of course, one year is not enough, but to say that there are no developments is also wrong. I do not know whether it is possible to use the experience of episodic developments of the times of the USSR. But in our time, Russia has been working on UAVs for more than one year
          1. Going
            Going 26 December 2017 09: 23 New
            +5
            We will not be excited, we will not know the real state of affairs and it is clear why.
            1. Sergey53
              Sergey53 26 December 2017 11: 14 New
              0
              Quote: Going
              We will not be excited, we will not know the real state of affairs and it is clear why.

              He is flying. Improvements are carried out toli glider toli functional. A nondescript pencil.
        2. rotmistr60
          rotmistr60 26 December 2017 08: 16 New
          +5
          But what we are developing is many times better and has no analogues. And everyone immediately felt better.
          Judging by your assertive and ironic comment, you are no less than the developer of Russian UAVs. You are aware of what, where and how it is developed and produced. But you forget a little that there is such a thing as a state secret. Your "knowledge" from the Internet and open press is honestly a little ridiculous.
      2. faiver
        faiver 26 December 2017 07: 21 New
        +3
        in the sense of developments no? and Soviet unmanned jet scouts are not taken into account?
        1. Teberii
          Teberii 26 December 2017 07: 23 New
          0
          they cannot conduct reconnaissance and strike like planes; a different approach is needed here.
          1. faiver
            faiver 26 December 2017 07: 46 New
            0
            what can they do?
            1. Teberii
              Teberii 26 December 2017 07: 48 New
              0
              conduct photo reconnaissance, that's what they were designed for
              1. faiver
                faiver 26 December 2017 07: 50 New
                0
                television too
              2. Nikolaevich I
                Nikolaevich I 26 December 2017 11: 17 New
                +1
                Quote: Teberii
                conduct photo reconnaissance, that's what they were designed for

                Quote: Teberii
                strike like planes they cannot

                With the “desire”, the Tu-143 could be upgraded as a percussion ... there was no command. Maybe for the reason that the load would have been small. A modification of the “flight” was developed - “propaganda” ... this modification should carry agitation . Leaflets for the "sum": 19 kilos and discard them. Put small-sized high-precision ammunition in the compartments instead of leaflets and ...... receive "hello with a whistle"!
          2. PN
            PN 26 December 2017 08: 44 New
            +1
            Do not be discouraged. This is all within the power and in the shortest possible time. But subject to the magic pendal, to accelerate in the right direction. And yes, it will stretch for years.
            1. KCA
              KCA 26 December 2017 09: 11 New
              +1
              Most likely, people have already been given the pendal and quietly, without advertising, people are doing their job, and then suddenly, as the “Caliber” jumps out from under the water, or how does the Putin launch the X-101, and why didn’t they wait? And here we are. All of these "best in the world" and "unparalleled in the world" developments are the facade, and the work is going on inside, behind a thick concrete wall
        2. Sergey53
          Sergey53 26 December 2017 13: 25 New
          0
          Quote: faiver
          in the sense of developments no? and Soviet unmanned jet scouts are not taken into account?

          And there is some groundwork, but much can be claimed for new things from scratch. What all the firms are doing and doing it - Sawing, sawing and sawing.
          1. Mih1974
            Mih1974 26 December 2017 20: 38 New
            +1
            These "sawing specialists" are treated very quickly - by executions, well, or at least loudly, publicly imprisoned for theft for a LONG period and always with confiscation good . Smart - understand, fools - to shoot. This technique works great in China, it worked great for Comrade Stalin, and for "gentleman" Lee Kwan Yu and many others. good
      3. Vita vko
        Vita vko 26 December 2017 08: 12 New
        +3
        Quote: Teberii
        If everything goes well, then within a year the result can be seen.

        Such a machine needs its own secure satellite communication channels, conventional VHF is not enough, and small data streams in HF. As far as I know the experience of the Americans, they began to seriously overload satellite channels with the use of long-range UAVs, and an entire group had to be additionally created.
      4. SOF
        SOF 26 December 2017 08: 33 New
        +3
        Quote: Teberii
        You need to practically start at 0

        ... I don’t understand a damn thing ...
        People, kind ones, explain: And what prevents you from taking and “rolling up" the lamp and installing instead of it the corresponding remote control on, say, the SU-25?
        Speeds are already declared, and the efficiency of application will be 300 percent, in relation to the same Predator. Need more time in the air? No problem - just cut the payload and increase the fuel supply.
        ..... explain, far from aviation, what is the reason for the invention of the next bike ???
        1. Ren
          Ren 26 December 2017 09: 11 New
          0
          Quote: SOF
          People, kind ones, explain: And what prevents you from taking and “rolling up" the lamp and installing instead of it the corresponding remote control on, say, the SU-25?

          Add my five cents. Remote control for UAVs is not a panacea, because need reliable secure communication channels. In principle, there are achievements on AI for UAVs in the defense industry and are currently undergoing “training” and running in the fields. hi
        2. just exp
          just exp 26 December 2017 10: 46 New
          0
          Su-25 cannot barrage 48 hours.
          1. SOF
            SOF 26 December 2017 11: 59 New
            +1
            Quote: just EXPL
            Su-25 cannot barrage 48 hours

            ... unfortunately only half the answer.
            A couple more questions, if you may:
            1. ... and what, on a jet draft, can barrage for 48 hours and what kind of fuel should it have for this?
            2. so all the same, what prevents the armada of obsolete, by design, machines from being converted into shock drones, even without the possibility of prolonged barrage?
        3. voyaka uh
          voyaka uh 26 December 2017 12: 15 New
          +1
          The difference is how much such a plane can be in the air.
          Special UAV (light and economical) - for days,
          and converted from the usual - a couple of hours.
          And reconnaissance (or patrolling) is an ongoing process.
          Or one specialized flies for days. Or continuous leapfrogging redone.
          Do not get enough fuel.
      5. Genry
        Genry 26 December 2017 08: 43 New
        +1
        Quote: Teberii
        We need to practically start with 0. In this area, we have no developments.

        Equipment has already been developed (Altair), and a glider with an engine is already visible (Argument).
        1. Leeds
          Leeds 26 December 2017 11: 57 New
          +2
          Beautiful pictures
          1. Genry
            Genry 26 December 2017 13: 55 New
            0
            Here's a video of the plane.
            And in the UAV glider - the cockpit is removed, the tail and the air intake are changed:
      6. NKT
        NKT 26 December 2017 09: 05 New
        0
        Wow from scratch, but TU-141, 143, 243, in the end TU-300?
        1. AlexKP
          AlexKP 26 December 2017 10: 37 New
          0
          We had 1T bee. In the year 2000.
      7. Lexus
        Lexus 26 December 2017 10: 48 New
        +1
        We have no developments in this area.

        Yes, they did.
      8. Mih1974
        Mih1974 26 December 2017 20: 34 New
        +1
        Well, first of all, what does “Korolev” mean? It’s Korolev’s business from scratch, the first nuclear reactors did it “from scratch”, and for us - look at what Merikas flies at you, TsAGI and other defense industry specialists will help you. good Engines - forward to Saturn, all kinds of electronics - there are such specialists, tea is not Newton’s bin. Forgive me, but who was the first in the world to land a fully autonomous Buran? It’s necessary to deal with the business, and not to cut the loot for nanists like growing a Chubais. am
    2. siberalt
      siberalt 26 December 2017 07: 17 New
      0
      Let them do it, it’s useful in the household. winked
    3. Pravodel
      Pravodel 26 December 2017 08: 58 New
      +1
      “Thank you” to the team of traitors who came to power in Russia in the 90s: if it weren’t for this damned seed, then Russia would have long been armed with a drone with a payload greater than that of the mattress “traitor”. Buran, developed in the USSR, was just such a drone. How many useful things could be hung on it! ... From Buran - a direct road to atmospheric drones of lesser power and load ... But you can’t return the lost. We have to start everything from scratch, and the counter is ticking ... Unfortunately, for a long time we will have to rake up the evil that the traitors hung on Russia. Question: will we be in time ?! You need to be in time ... Otherwise, a nightmare can happen. Russia cannot allow this. Hence the question of power: either power in Russia is patriotic, thinking, caring for the country, people, or a sales, treacherous clique trying to return Russia to the dashing 90s and ensure its collapse ... Our task, the task of all patriots , to prevent the repetition of the scenario once realized in Russia, but to ensure development and prosperity.

      "People-State-Fatherland" - this is the slogan of every Russian patriot. A strong state, a cohesive people, a prosperous Fatherland, which will not be overcome by internal and external enemies.
      1. AID.S
        AID.S 26 December 2017 12: 27 New
        0
        Quote: The Truth
        "Thank you" to the team of traitors who came to power in Russia in the 90s: e

        Yes, it’s good to whisper what happened - not to change, but to correct - we are trying, to the best of abilities and capabilities
    4. Kent0001
      Kent0001 26 December 2017 09: 31 New
      0
      Yes, announce the deadline please.
    5. Topotun
      Topotun 26 December 2017 11: 30 New
      +1
      Here the question is more interesting - on which engines? Still, the engine is half the car ....
    6. NEXUS
      NEXUS 26 December 2017 15: 15 New
      +2
      Quote: Sergey53
      All this is very good, the question is when?

      The unmanned topic is identified in the new armament program as a priority ... I’ll guess for two to four years.
  2. 210ox
    210ox 26 December 2017 07: 04 New
    0
    Yeah ... Rejoice or not. With these drones while the pipe .. Put at least one, then we will rejoice. And how with those frigates and the destroyer ...
  3. Herculesic
    Herculesic 26 December 2017 07: 06 New
    +1
    I repeat, but recently in the sky I saw the passage of a 4-motor drone! Looks like they are also testing some prototype!
    1. midivan
      midivan 26 December 2017 08: 33 New
      +1
      Quote: Herkulesich
      I repeat, but recently in the sky I saw the passage of a 4-motor drone! Looks like they are also testing some prototype!

      Where in Iceland? Not very happy, I'll tell you smile The edge or region would at least be indicated.
      1. Herculesic
        Herculesic 26 December 2017 11: 10 New
        +1
        Only if the FSB permits! And our country is Russia! am
        1. midivan
          midivan 26 December 2017 11: 17 New
          +1
          belay So serious that even the region is impossible ??? Straight Mars spaceship turns bully
    2. Topgun
      Topgun 26 December 2017 12: 34 New
      0
      if it’s for your fantasies, then a 4-motor can only be a hefty electric (solar-powered), I know one such project in Russia - they are testing a “flexible wing-plane” ...
      such drones are only suitable for communication, in principle, since Russia does not have normal satellite communications now, you can use them as a “communication satellite” for eagles there, thereby increasing their radius ...
      1. Herculesic
        Herculesic 26 December 2017 13: 45 New
        +1
        This is not my imagination, but a real machine with 4 screw engines, a long wing, and very fast! I saw him no more than 15 seconds! Honestly, he was surprised at what he saw !!!!
  4. electrooleg
    electrooleg 26 December 2017 07: 08 New
    +3
    Russian specialists create high-speed UAV


    It has long been created. "Caliber" is called. In order to make a reconnaissance modification, the glider and the engine need not be changed. It is necessary to change the firmware, and hang intelligence equipment.
    1. Teberii
      Teberii 26 December 2017 07: 19 New
      0
      ..... you still need to do it and spend time .....
    2. IGOR GORDEEV
      IGOR GORDEEV 26 December 2017 07: 20 New
      +1
      Quote: elektroleg
      It has long been created. "Caliber" is called. In order to make a reconnaissance modification, the glider and the engine need not be changed. It is necessary to change the firmware, and hang intelligence equipment.

      If it were all so simple, then probably such a UAV would have already flown and bombed terrorists in Syria.
    3. Professor
      Professor 26 December 2017 07: 30 New
      +1
      Quote: elektroleg
      Russian specialists create high-speed UAV


      It has long been created. "Caliber" is called. In order to make a reconnaissance modification, the glider and the engine need not be changed. It is necessary to change the firmware, and hang intelligence equipment.

      ... and he will remain disposable like the KR? request
      1. electrooleg
        electrooleg 26 December 2017 10: 40 New
        0
        Quote: Professor
        and it will remain one-time like the KR?


        It is possible and reusable. Consider the ability to return to the base in the firmware. The warhead will not be needed, in its place you can put a lot of things, including a landing parachute for example. It’s just not quite clear to me why a second time to invent a glider for some high-speed drone if it already exists. In addition, already, consider, it is possible to launch a calibrated drone even from submarines. Go fig advantage.
        1. Professor
          Professor 27 December 2017 03: 16 New
          0
          Quote: elektroleg
          It is possible and reusable.

          Not allowed. The life of a reusable drone and a one-time CD is different. The latter is designed to live only a couple of hours. Start to increase the resource and you have to develop everything from scratch.

          Quote: elektroleg
          In addition, already, consider, it is possible to launch a calibrated drone even from submarines.

          Already there are such drones. By the way, how will your drone return with a PU submarine? wink
    4. Shahno
      Shahno 26 December 2017 07: 36 New
      0
      Well, yes, and the BG in ICBMs can be used as a satellite.
      1. electrooleg
        electrooleg 26 December 2017 10: 42 New
        0
        Quote: Shahno
        Well, yes, and the BG in ICBMs can be used as a satellite.


        Of course you can. There was a modification of the R-36ORB rocket, so everything has been completed long ago, and if anything can be restored.
  5. svp67
    svp67 26 December 2017 07: 36 New
    0
    In the creation of UAVs, there are two branches, low-speed and high-speed, each has its own "+" and "-". And if there are already "low-speed" in our army, here is the "high-speed" one. Although it was precisely according to this scheme that all Tupolev UAVs were created earlier in the USSR ...
  6. faiver
    faiver 26 December 2017 07: 49 New
    +2
    48 hours of jet UAV? don't tell my slippers wassat
    1. just exp
      just exp 26 December 2017 10: 51 New
      0
      why not? the global hok mattresses are on duty for 30 hours, and then reduce the mass and reduce the load in favor of fuel, and 48 will master.
  7. askort154
    askort154 26 December 2017 07: 51 New
    +1
    Here is an excerpt from another article (07.03.2017/XNUMX/XNUMX "RN Tape")
    Altair (Kazan), a heavy UAV, made a series of successful test flights in 2016. Take-off, landing - both in manual and automatic modes. Take-off mass allows you to place the weapons that are already available for him. TTX:
    - G up. - 5 t.,
    - N floor. max. - 12 km.,
    - T half max. - 48 hours
    - S max. - 10 thousand km.,
    - G useful - 2 t.
    - Wingspan - about 30 m.
    - 2 diesel engine (RED A03 / v12). (Screw.)
    Serial production is planned for 2018. hi
    1. Viktor.12.71
      Viktor.12.71 26 December 2017 08: 53 New
      0
      The answer to the American reaper who will soon be 20 years old, although it has been widely used since 2007. Let it be late than never, and most importantly, that would be better.
      TTX Reaper
      Ceiling: 15 km
      Autonomy: 16—28 h
      Distance: 5920 km
      Fuel capacity: 1300 kg
      Length: 11 meters
      Capacity: 1700 kg
      Weight: 2223 kg (empty); 4760 kg (maximum)
      Wingspan: 20 m
      Maximum speed: 400 km / h
      Cruising speed: 250 km / h
      Engine: Honeywell TP331-10 turboprop, 670 kW
      Avionics
      Synthesized aperture radar station AN / APY-8 Lynx II, capable of working in the mapping mode - in the nose fairing.
      Combined electron-optical and thermal imaging sighting station MTS-B - on a spherical suspension under the fuselage. It includes a laser rangefinder-target designator capable of targeting the entire spectrum of US and NATO ammunition with semi-active laser guidance.
  8. Strashila
    Strashila 26 December 2017 08: 03 New
    0
    UAVs are chalky, but surely begin to pick up the characteristics of the bombers of World War II.
  9. Rusfaner
    Rusfaner 26 December 2017 08: 41 New
    0
    Engines in the studio! There are no small TVDs yet, from the words "completely" and "in general." If they say that they did (did not draw, but made and launched into a series!) A line of such engines for different take-off weights, then, honestly, I’ll have a good drink with joy!
    1. AlexKP
      AlexKP 26 December 2017 10: 47 New
      0
      TV7-117CM and others like him. Turbofan-50 there.
      1. Days
        Days 26 December 2017 11: 58 New
        0
        And AL-55 there, the same weight category as the TV7-117CM
  10. midivan
    midivan 26 December 2017 08: 41 New
    +2
    [/ quote] The project intends to create a heavy UAV weighing about 4-5 tons, which will fly at a speed of 750-950 km / h. This is a medium-high UAV with a flight duration of up to 48 hours [quote]
    Someone explain please woodpecker, the minimum speed of 750 km / h and 48 hours is real? How much do I understand even the car we are not able to drive 48 hours at least at medium speed, there is not enough fuel, but how does the jet engine do it? reached the point that they do not eat fuel at all? belay what or they have three tons of fuel there and the rest ........
    1. BVS
      BVS 26 December 2017 08: 58 New
      +4
      He can fly Moscow - Washington, and go back. Indeed - 750x48 = 36 km.
      The distance from Moscow to Washington is only 7831 km.
      And for the remaining fuel supply, it’s still a day to barrage over the US capital!
      Truly unparalleled world!
      1. midivan
        midivan 26 December 2017 09: 08 New
        +1
        recourse I seriously asked, really interesting crying
    2. stone
      stone 26 December 2017 09: 10 New
      +2
      No, of course not! Either checkered or go laughing They mixed everything together again, a UAV of a long flight cannot be with such an engine and speed! If they compare it with Aanger, it’s 20 hours, and even then it’s probably in the easy version of reconnaissance.
      1. midivan
        midivan 26 December 2017 09: 15 New
        +1
        Thanks, reassured smile
      2. Rusfaner
        Rusfaner 26 December 2017 14: 30 New
        0
        Here I am about the same thing above, but they bring me TV- and AL -... with their “profitability”.
    3. BVS
      BVS 26 December 2017 09: 27 New
      +2
      Unrealistic!!!
  11. Serzh_R
    Serzh_R 26 December 2017 08: 50 New
    0
    an unnamed source in the military-industrial complex

    Sources divorced, only obviously not a spring.
  12. cannabis
    cannabis 26 December 2017 10: 09 New
    +1
    Morning snot sleeve and start looking for excuses for being late with the development of 25 years. : "Why are you late?" - "Late, Comrade Major ....."
  13. Alexey-74
    Alexey-74 26 December 2017 10: 13 New
    0
    I hope in 2018 we will hear news about his state tests.
  14. viktorch
    viktorch 26 December 2017 10: 48 New
    0
    it’s possible, but the engineer from the soft toy factory is developing the T-1000 terminator, as it will be developed without any analogs in the world,

    until produced by hundreds- consider no drones
  15. Tektor
    Tektor 26 December 2017 11: 00 New
    0
    So much time has been developed, and now those on - again at first? And then what were you doing before? The fact that you need a high-speed shock UAV was clear for a long time. They even left him: Scat. This is exactly what you need. But from my point of view, strike UAVs should be of three dimensions: 2 tons, 6 tons and 12 tons with a combat load of 0,5 tons, 1,5 tons and 3,5 tons, respectively.
  16. Force
    Force 26 December 2017 16: 32 New
    0
    It is noted that a new Russian drone is being developed, which may be characterized by the analogy with the Avenger UAV (Predator C).
    This is an American multi-purpose drone, which is actively used to solve various kinds of problems around the world, including Iraq and Syria.

    Since when has Avanger been adopted? belay
    Or am I missing something ... request
  17. Belarus is Russia
    Belarus is Russia 26 December 2017 20: 02 New
    0
    Russian specialists create high-speed UAV
    Case-necessary.