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American way of degradation: from civilization to post-civilization

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American way of degradation: from civilization to post-civilization



The US is degrading. And very quickly. And if earlier we were “surprised” by combat aircraft that do not fly, antimissiles that do not shoot down, to combat ships that do not sail, then today no one is particularly surprised at cars that do not travel and to derailed trains.

Today is the time to talk about what led Americans to ignoring the fundamental principles of the development of a technological society. Just a few examples from stories and today. But first, let's understand what civilization is.

In essence, this is a technological mode. All the amenities and the pleasant "things" that we use in our daily life can work like a clock only until someone follows this whole economy properly. As soon as we stop doing this, the civilization we are accustomed to begins to leave our lives. So it was in the republics of the former USSR in 90, and so will be in the United States, if no one there cares about it in the near future. Although, I think it will not help much. Everything went too far.

The fact is that in America itself the degradation processes began much earlier than in the Union. Why then collapsed the USSR, and not the United States? There simply intervened another factor. While the United States degraded naturally, the Soviet civilization was destroyed from the inside by the hands of its betrayed elites.



Do not outbid Washington at one time part of the Soviet elite, we would have traveled to the United States today and would have shook their heads, saying: “Could a once-prosperous civilization have been able to reach such an end?”

Do not believe? We read a little-known today, but very influential at the time, American economist Seymour Melman, who, as for me, wrote just a brilliant economic work called “Profits without production”.

We take only one episode. So, the beginning of the yard 1970-x. The most powerful American corporation "Boeing-Vertol" with 1971, took up the design, and then the production of electric trolley buses. In the USA, they stopped making their own trolleybuses in 1950.



It would seem that it could be easier than to restore their production. In 1976, the first cars hit the line, and after four years everyone agreed that the United States was unable to produce its own trolleybuses. Forgotten how.

This is just one marker from the 70-x, when in the US the first signs of an impending problem were already visible to specialists. Its foundation was laid in 60, when American “entrepreneurs” were spoiled by the state and the opportunity to plunder this state uncontrollably by sawing up gigantic military budgets. Actually, because they became gigantic. And then this way of "making money" spread to the civilian sector, medicine, education, and, like a cancer, killed everything that was healthy in American society. You can see the diagnosis of this system on the scoreboard, which counts the amount of US government debt.



And the American civilization is saved from destruction so far only the ability to buy for dollars what the Americans themselves cannot produce. And every year such goods become more and more.

So, we have become accustomed to the fact that new American combat aircraft do not fly, do not knock anti-missile missiles, ships do not float, and their counterparts in Russian "armature" weigh more than 80 tons, which is why the US military is forced to cancel the rearmament program of ground forces. Yes, the American army is losing the ability to effectively deal with the enemy, but with this you can somehow live.

But what to do with this? The recent crash of the Amtrak Cascades passenger train, during which more than 100 people were injured and wounded, is the clearest example of what infrastructure degradation and the incompetence of its officials can do together. It remains to be seen who is most guilty of the fact that one of the first trains with passengers, released on the updated high-speed railway, went downhill. Perhaps it was the designers who were wrong in the calculations or the contracting companies did something wrong, but the customer could not or did not want to see it, but the fact is obvious.



The system of the state gave an obvious failure. Moreover, there are more and more places in the USA where it is “thin”, and therefore it is exploding more and more often.

For example, an unprecedented scandal in the New York subway, which erupted in December 2017-th. In September, 2016 of the Evening New York wrote about the new R179 model wagons as dream cars. They were supposed to replace the archaic R32 cars, the first samples of which were released on the line in the already distant 1964 year. The cost of one car was cosmic 2 million dollars apiece. But someone decided that this was reasonable, since the reliability of the new cars had to increase 10-12 times, which made this price reasonable. So showed the calculations. But what happened in practice.



According to Daily News, today new trains during tests with passengers "on board" failed three tests in a row for two weeks (19, 27 and 30 in November 2017 of the year). All this forced the operating company to temporarily suspend the 30-day test cycle of new trains.

A familiar picture, is not it? Directly tracing from 1970-x, only on a much larger scale. Decades change, the cost of products multiply increases, and the problems not only do not go away, but also increase like a snowball in all industries.

So, the United States is degrading, and the process of their internal degradation is accelerating. And the worst thing for them is that all this is happening against the background of the degradation of the political and even, I would say, civilizational. And this is a systemic crisis, from which so far the United States has no exit.
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  1. Rurikovich
    Rurikovich 26 December 2017 06: 54 New
    36
    Let them collapse, only quietly, as the USSR dispersed.
    Only if we ran away with consequences for ourselves, because we had nothing to lose besides faith, then individuals sitting in power in the USA because of the possible loss of their accumulated wealth can break firewood, so much so that everyone comes around what
    Already now hysterical notes are heard from the top of the United States, when it becomes clear that everyone already realizes what the USA really is. And even psychologically, a man who has been driven into a corner by those who have revealed the truth is going all the way, especially having a powerful military "club" in his hands. Because in order to recognize reality and draw reasonable conclusions, brains are stupidly needed. But they are just not visible behind the rewards of their own complexes and the so-called material wealth.
    But we are spiritually rich, and therefore did not bring misfortune to the world with the collapse of our country. we survived ... But are representatives of an exceptional race capable of this ???? request
    1. dSK
      dSK 26 December 2017 08: 42 New
      15
      Hello Andrey!
      Quote: Rurikovich
      the so-called material wealth. But we are spiritually rich
      In Ireland, on Christmas Eve, Catholic priest Desmond O'Donnell called on all Christians to abandon the use of the word "Christmas." As explained by the clergyman, the holiday has lost its sacred meaning. Political scientist, deputy director of the National Institute for the Development of Modern Ideology Igor Shatrov in Broadcast of Constantinople He said that what is happening in Europe reminds him of the theater of the absurd. The traditional values ​​that Christians advocated under the pressure of this multiculturalism, political correctness simply lose their meaning: "ridicule, ridicule ... In Europe, this practice is justified by the desire not to harm new residents who have their own ideas about the world and whom Christmas insults. Consciously or unconsciously, by reason or thoughtlessness, abandon the traditional values ​​that society has held together for centuries. " According to him, processes are taking place in Europe now. in Rome during the invasion of the barbarians.
    2. Megatron
      Megatron 26 December 2017 09: 02 New
      25
      Everything is not so smooth with us either, how many missiles have fallen lately.
      And they didn’t even put anyone off, they didn’t even put them off. The greasy-faced Rogozin walks contentedly. And at the construction site of the East how much was stolen ....
      1. saturn.mmm
        saturn.mmm 26 December 2017 17: 32 New
        +5
        Quote: Megatron
        And at the construction site of the East how much was stolen ....

        How much, please voice?
        1. Nyrobsky
          Nyrobsky 27 December 2017 00: 02 New
          +4
          Quote: saturn.mmm
          Quote: Megatron
          And at the construction site of the East how much was stolen ....
          How much, please voice?

          Will not answer. 100%! His task is different, to emphasize our inferiority, against the backdrop of the degradation of the Western world.
          1. Megatron
            Megatron 27 December 2017 13: 25 New
            +3
            Before condemning others, it’s not bad to start with yourself. I have a very bad attitude towards Westerners, but we have more than enough of our problems. What does the flaw? Can you read at all? If I'm not a lesson, how many here.

            You can see the exact numbers in open sources, but there is an account for tens of billions, that's already enough.
    3. Lelek
      Lelek 26 December 2017 10: 00 New
      15
      Quote: Rurikovich
      But are representatives of an exceptional race capable of this?

      hi
      The question is banal and the answer to it is in the subjunctive mood and with a question mark: "Can America give up its" exclusivity "and switch to the" internal harmony "mode by locking a printing press that produces tons of green wrappers at a cost of 3 cents apiece?" It seems that no - it will not. So the answer to your question is negative. As regards US foreign policy, it is also no secret that it is built on bribery, deception and the removal of objectionable. Example? Here's the last - the recognition of the adventurer Mr. Biden at the beginning of the collapse of the former Ukraine (and the Hague court silently smoked on the sidelines).
      1. philosopher
        philosopher 30 December 2017 11: 04 New
        +1
        And do not remind, was there a time when the United States was self-sufficient? This country has always spent more than it produced and survived either due to slavery, or due to wars of other states among themselves, then bought everything that it wanted for its candy wrappers, or simply took it away by force. If the United States is conditionally fenced with an "iron curtain", the decline of this power will take place at an accelerated pace throughout the year.
    4. Blombirus
      Blombirus 26 December 2017 10: 19 New
      +5
      [quote = rurikovich] Let them collapse, only quietly, as the USSR dispersed.
      But are representatives of an exceptional race capable of this ????
      Yes, they are capable of any trickery! They simply MUST die in the shortest possible time, otherwise our whole planet will die.
    5. SergF123
      SergF123 26 December 2017 17: 02 New
      +2
      RATS are driven into a corner, and only rats driven into a corner start recklessly throwing ....
    6. seal78
      seal78 26 December 2017 19: 25 New
      +9
      Quote: Rurikovich
      quietly how the USSR broke up.

      Quiet ?! Those. hundreds of thousands, if not millions, who died in ethnic conflicts, civil wars organized for the collapse of the USSR and continue to this day as a result of its destruction, a huge number of deaths from starvation, unemployment, gang warfare, millions of unborn children because of all this - this is normal ?
      1. Rurikovich
        Rurikovich 26 December 2017 19: 33 New
        +5
        Quote: seal78
        Quiet ?!

        Read the comment carefully. I meant quietly for the world. What was happening in the post-Soviet space was a disaster, but it concerned only the peoples within the borders of the former USSR. We didn’t take revenge on the world for collapse, we didn’t attack either Europe or America ...
        But in the case of the United States, the whole world may suffer, for they will try to solve their problems at the expense of others.
        That's what it was about hi
        To make it clearer, I’ll explain it on my fingers - during a divorce, one will solve his problems at home with his wife, beat her face or dishes, but at home, and the other will linger and go to the neighbors to break the fences, beat the faces of random passers-by, etc.
        Got what's the difference? wink hi
    7. Tatar 174
      Tatar 174 27 December 2017 09: 25 New
      +7
      Quote: Rurikovich
      Let them collapse, only quietly, as the USSR dispersed.

      It is good that the USSR had Russia, which took over everything, both nuclear weapons and the debts of the USSR, and which of the states will be able to take on all of this in the same way as Russia? I doubt very much that the destruction of the USA is a plus. That weakening of the United States almost to the decline with a change in their role in the world would not hurt at all. Dear Santa Claus, give it to the whole world, you can do anything!
    8. AllXVahhaB
      AllXVahhaB 30 December 2017 13: 19 New
      0
      Quote: Rurikovich
      individuals sitting in power in the United States due to the possible loss of their accumulated wealth may break

      And why should they lose it? They will transfer to offshore and change their place of residence, business then ...
  2. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 26 December 2017 07: 01 New
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    The US is degrading. Moreover, very quickly
    They may be degrading, but not as fast as we would like. The economy is normal, military spending sky-high. Politically, they are really degrading, and moreover, noticeably. The optimism of the author is understandable, but not yet timely.
    1. CONTROL
      CONTROL 26 December 2017 10: 37 New
      +5
      Quote: rotmistr60
      They may be degrading, but not as fast as we would like. The economy is normal, military spending sky-high. Politically, they are really degrading, and moreover, noticeably. The optimism of the author is understandable, but not yet timely.

      Thanks to the Fed and the speculative economy, the United States crushed the whole world (Russia is no exception ....); therefore - when the "US empire" collapses, the whole world will be pulled into the grave! Even Trump is the one who “wanted something strange” for the United States, and he gave up ... and was “blown away”!
    2. Vadim237
      Vadim237 26 December 2017 12: 06 New
      +7
      In the USA, the economy grows from 3 to 6% every year, so in the long run nothing will happen to them. As for government debt, its US can at any time restructure, to half, and so on.
      1. CONTROL
        CONTROL 26 December 2017 14: 02 New
        +5
        Quote: Vadim237
        In the USA, the economy grows from 3 to 6% every year,

        ... at the expense of the printing press!
        As for government debt, its US at any time may restructure, to half and so on.

        ... well, yes, and even treasury giants ... and gold and foreign exchange reserves in American banks ...
        why not restructure! Like Mark Twain with the story of the “Negro-slave banker Jim” - I remember that he also created a “bank”, collected ten unfortunate dollars from poor slaves, and then ... the bank “burst”!
      2. rbz05
        rbz05 26 December 2017 18: 18 New
        +3
        Sorry, but in what place does it grow? Due to hand-drawn paper or inflated stocks? All that concerns one crap. And for a long time.
      3. Nyrobsky
        Nyrobsky 27 December 2017 00: 11 New
        +3
        Quote: Vadim237
        In the USA, the economy grows from 3 to 6% every year, so in the long run nothing will happen to them. As for government debt, its US can at any time restructure, to half, and so on.

        Of these (3-6% of GDP) today, more than half goes to servicing external debt! The debt burden of the U.S. population, which is not capable of repaying loans, in addition to external debt, has increased the domestic debt of the population to the state, in volume comparable to external debt, which in aggregate gives not 20 trillion about which they tryndy at every corner, but all 35-40 trillion. Normal bubble for one country! This is crazy "debt" money despite the fact that the entire world GDP revolves around 70-80 trillion. dollars a year. And yet, yes, the issue of debt restructuring cannot be resolved unilaterally without the consent of the creditor. If, as an argument, the United States can offer the lender a military club, then the lender sees that there is another club on their club, and therefore it may pryachnichat and not agree to the restructuring.
    3. Natalia777
      Natalia777 26 December 2017 20: 11 New
      +4
      Unfortunately, we see only the front side of the United States. And there is also a downside. Here everything is so obscured that nothing is visible. But if you climb and dig, then we accumulate unemployment of more than 25%, the extinction of hundreds of large and successful cities recently, the catastrophic emigration of industries to other countries with cheaper labor, electricity and low taxation. The United States ranks first in the world in terms of the number of prisoners in prison. In the United States, there are officially more than 3 million homeless people, while people living on the extremes and below the poverty line are already 80 percent. The population is extremely obese - 60% - this is when excess weight reaches an average of 100 and more kg. Education in the USA is at the lowest level. Specialists are almost all foreign. All data on the state of the economy, etc. about the United States, you can find on the site "question.Net".
    4. sharp-lad
      sharp-lad 29 December 2017 20: 52 New
      +1
      With such a public debt like a mattress, is the economy normal? Then what will happen to the abnormal economy?
  3. inkass_98
    inkass_98 26 December 2017 07: 13 New
    38
    I believe that while you need to look at yourself. If something falls into the USA, it’s wonderful, but constantly flying missiles, loaded with satellites to the eyeballs, is already our bad tradition. constantly delayed delivery of warships? What about engine problems for ships and civilian aircraft? And the development of gas and oil production equipment? Wherever you stick - problems, and systemic. It is too early to rejoice at the impending fall of the United States, all the more so since little will not seem to anyone if such a colossus collapses. Own economy and production must be restored, and not dream that the fat will lose weight. By that time, a skinny one could be scabbed.
    1. Letnab
      Letnab 26 December 2017 07: 20 New
      17
      Yes, it’s really early to rejoice, we are moving along the same American path. We also steal, roll back, etc. ... and accordingly there are frequent accidents, delays in the deadlines for commissioning facilities, an increase in value ...
      1. Winnie76
        Winnie76 26 December 2017 08: 21 New
        +2
        Quote: Letnab
        Yes, it’s really early to rejoice, we are moving along the same American path. We also steal, roll away, etc ...

        Has it ever been different before?
      2. Vadim237
        Vadim237 26 December 2017 12: 14 New
        +2
        Whatever the cost is inflated and the deadlines are not pushed back, you need to enter a strict audit commission - you do not fit into the cost and terms, you will pay a penalty. And to create control over the flow of budget funds so that all subsidies reach the end user, to whom they were allocated, but now they don’t get the money they allocated - well, what the hell.
        1. vlad007
          vlad007 26 December 2017 12: 58 New
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          Quote: Vadim237
          That would not overstate the cost ...

          Take it easy, construction costs are overpriced all over the world. Let me remind you that Terrorist No. 1 Bin Laden got rich on building contracts, Trump got rich on building contracts too and this list goes on. They steal all over the world, we are no worse than others, but we must fight this. Previously, in the USSR, there was an article in the Criminal Code for unreasonably overstating the cost of construction and installation works, and with confiscation. And now, no article or confiscation. Oh how!
          1. Vadim237
            Vadim237 26 December 2017 13: 18 New
            0
            Only we have the cost, they can overestimate several times.
            1. seal78
              seal78 26 December 2017 20: 06 New
              +2
              Why would we suddenly be able to get around the American founders of corruption that have been ringing at it for 200 years at the highest level? In 1991, they all brought it to us, only to them namm in this still hoo how far. There it has long been held at the legislative level, and is now called the "lobby".
      3. seal78
        seal78 26 December 2017 20: 17 New
        +2
        So the point is that while we will try to imitate the United States, play some kind of “free market” and “capitalism”, everything will be bad for us, because this is an initially dead end path, as the example of the United States is already even naive.
      4. philosopher
        philosopher 30 December 2017 11: 19 New
        0
        And just need to lift the moratorium on the death penalty. And to execute the stolen officials, deputies and car chasers of all stripes, such as Zakharchenko, having previously interrogated with prejudice so that the chain of identified bribe takers and embezzlers was not interrupted.
    2. aybolyt678
      aybolyt678 26 December 2017 08: 42 New
      +4
      Quote: inkass_98
      It’s too early to rejoice at the upcoming fall of the USA

      Absolutely right! given that their Dragon flew to the ISS, and its cost is 10 times lower than our hangar, and the steps are reused, and automatic lines for the production of cars in Japan and China are still American and dollars are walking, the author’s optimism is premature.
      1. andrew42
        andrew42 26 December 2017 17: 08 New
        +5
        Old PR song. The same thing about Columbia / Challenger /../ Atlantis was rubbed (oh, so reusable! Such advanced!), But in the end they invested in bribing part of the Politburo in order to slaughter our Buran together with the state of the USSR. No one is lying to the Board of Directors as a newly-born commercial director with the presentation of his next ingenious plan "SURVIVAL." So "The Dragon is 10 times cheaper than the Angara" - from the same opera. It all depends on what the "accountant" wants to show, drawing the Balance with applications.
        1. Dr_engie
          Dr_engie 26 December 2017 17: 40 New
          0
          And the fact that we have a lower percentage of successful launches is also fraud?
          1. CT-55_11-9009
            CT-55_11-9009 29 December 2017 12: 25 New
            +1
            Quote: Dr_Engie
            And the fact that we have a lower percentage of successful launches is also fraud?

            Percentage of successful launches WHAT? Missiles at all? Booster rockets? Carriers of a certain class? Specific launch vehicle models? Please expand your thought, and I will explain to you where you lie like a gray gelding.
      2. saturn.mmm
        saturn.mmm 26 December 2017 17: 45 New
        +3
        Quote: aybolyt678
        and auto production lines in Japan and China are still American

        Tell us more about this. I really want to know what automatic lines the United States has in Japan.
        1. aybolyt678
          aybolyt678 26 December 2017 20: 09 New
          +1
          easy, infa the truth is a little outdated, but relevant: http://doctormike10.livejournal.com/
          1. saturn.mmm
            saturn.mmm 27 December 2017 06: 53 New
            +1
            Quote: aybolyt678
            easy, infa the truth is a little outdated, but relevant: http://doctormike10.livejournal.com/

            You are not talking about American educational program, but specifically what automatic lines are now in which Japanese plants.
            1. aybolyt678
              aybolyt678 27 December 2017 11: 38 New
              +1
              Quote: saturn.mmm
              You are not talking about American educational program, but specifically what automatic lines are now in which Japanese plants.

              I guess I confused the assembly line a little, with the maximum automation of procedures, with an automatic line. Sorry.
    3. Mikhail3
      Mikhail3 26 December 2017 09: 05 New
      15
      The author said this too. Our civilization is sick ALL. Both the US and we. Alas, socialism had development opportunities, but with their application we shamefully failed, because instead of development we engaged in hysterical prayers to the "works of the founders." Unsolvable systemic problems killed the USSR.
      That is, our elite, being unable to cope on their own, decided to rely on the "mechanisms of a market economy." That is, not seeing their own organizational, mental and ideological degradation (and why? I’m the boss - you, and nothing else), our bosses decided to make "these loafers" work with a whip of hunger and the pursuit of stupid toys.
      But capitalism has exhausted its development potential, and for a long time! During the famine, you can plunder the grocery store and live fun for a while. But at the same time it is necessary to sow wheat, and even survive to harvest like that ...
    4. bk316
      bk316 26 December 2017 12: 43 New
      +5
      Own economy and production must be restored, and not dream that the fat will lose weight.

      so no one dreams, an article that the United States is not an eternal paradise on earth.
    5. Kent0001
      Kent0001 26 December 2017 16: 28 New
      +3
      The consequence of the lack of a strategic vector in the country for technical development. Our rich grandmothers are all overseas and that is solely from the sale of oil. Im developing the country to the drum. And right now, capitals will be returned to the country, the same expense for us, payment of meringues, well, at least personal income tax.
    6. Natalia777
      Natalia777 26 December 2017 20: 13 New
      0
      I suspect that there is wrecking. FSB must figure it out.
    7. Ehanatone
      Ehanatone 26 December 2017 20: 31 New
      -1
      Inkass
      +++++++
    8. Mih1974
      Mih1974 27 December 2017 00: 54 New
      +3
      You impudently distort: ​​the United States did not fall apart with the loss of most of the connections of the distributed industry, they did not have the destruction of the economy by more powerful competitors supported by their governments, they did not have hungry emigration of brains, and many, many, of course, plus, they have uncontrolled currency emission recognized by the whole world !! Russia, as the heir to the USSR, lost most of its productions, partly 90, partly the grabbers were dismantled for metal, partly the rivals were strangled, right now the mericases poked fascist Ukrainians into the leaders and the last industrial ties with Ukraine were broken. At the same time, Russia begins to restore the lost and protects the saved in 90 good . This is how to compare two boxers 1) scored for training and drank, drank, narkushil and 2) got into a terrible car accident and broke everything. fool
      The USSR / Russia tried to "make the whole world better" but lost competition with the West. Is the West a table by the world Monopolist and DE "universal happiness"? am Where is the absence of wars, where is the breakthrough of progress, where is the reduction in the cost of war and the improvement of education, medicine, where at least a "victory over hunger"? Just what you indicated as the “problems of Russia” is its achievements
      engines for ships - https://lenta.ru/news/2016/12/01/engines/
      for airplanes - https://topwar.ru/123917-pd-14-samyy-moschnyy-dvi
      gatel-dlya-grazhdanskoy-aviacii-rossii.html
      for helicopters - https://vz.ru/news/2016/6/23/817497.html
      gas and oil equipment - here’s a list for you http://www.proizvoditeli-rossii.ru/oborudovanie/n
      eftyanoe-oborudovanie call yourself or look at sites tongue
      That’s what’s going on in rocket science — it’s really a problem, and here it’s necessary to shoot executives because of a lack of order, but Vostochny cosmodrome is there, the Angara rocket is launched. That's what then it all became like a stake, this is not a technical problem, but an administrative one.
  4. Zadayvoprosy
    Zadayvoprosy 26 December 2017 07: 51 New
    +7
    The US is degrading. And very fast.


    For this, the sin of hawthorn is not to roll laughing
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    2. hhhhhhh
      hhhhhhh 28 December 2017 10: 20 New
      0
      Accidents reveal errors. Errors correct. The rockets will fly again.
      You worry about yourself.
  5. soldier
    soldier 26 December 2017 08: 32 New
    19
    All rot
    And we are all developing
  6. apro
    apro 26 December 2017 08: 47 New
    13
    While the fat one is losing weight, the thin one will die.
    Tales of the collapse. Degradation. Yellowstone. The conspiracy of the Masons and other nonsense does not even cause a smile. It's not funny. The Americans are a stable purposeful system. Whoever you want to break up. It’s bad that now there’s neither the strength nor the ideas that can resist them.
    1. Natalia777
      Natalia777 26 December 2017 20: 17 New
      0
      You see only the front side. Go to "question.Net" and dial the United States unemployment, the United States are dying cities, the United States are homeless, the United States - policemen are killed on the streets, etc. And information will be revealed to you - from American sources translated into Russian.
  7. aybolyt678
    aybolyt678 26 December 2017 08: 48 New
    +2
    Delirium, delirium, delirium .... some facts are pulled out, but there is no complete analysis, I wanted to see something like that, but unfortunately everything is not so rosy.
    1. CONTROL
      CONTROL 26 December 2017 10: 46 New
      +2
      Quote: aybolyt678
      Delirium, delirium, delirium .... some facts are pulled out, but there is no complete analysis, I wanted to see something like that, but unfortunately everything is not so rosy.

      Last month, the Club of Rome presented a new report, “Come On! Capitalism, myopia, population and the destruction of the planet ”, dedicated to its half-century anniversary. Potentially, this is one of the most important documents of our time.
      Club of Rome, anniversary report. Verdict: "The Old World is doomed. The New World is inevitable!"https://www.planet-kob.ru/articles/6832
      Here it should be noted that the so-called. Club of Rome Conglomerate extremely cynical modern analysts - firmly putting their hands, by the way, to the collapse of the USSR and the further destruction of Russia and the countries of the former USSR!
      So these guys are signing the death sentence so beloved in their very recent past capitalism; but - we must give them their due - they offer an alternative!
      -------------------------------
      how to relate to this report and the "alternative" - ​​........ ???
      1. Nikolay73
        Nikolay73 26 December 2017 13: 42 New
        +3
        ... yeah, I don’t want to be a pillar noblewoman ... or bees against honey ... there isn’t much power and now we are offering you something new - a global government !!! Now, we control not countries, now we control EVERYTHING !!! There is no Russia - Baikal belongs to the whole WORLD, like everything else, and for this we give you YOUR NEW PHILOSOPHY !!!! As for me, the dollar is at least a piece of paper, and this is a mega-analytic fake - thanks to RK for announcing the entire list at once.
        1. CONTROL
          CONTROL 27 December 2017 08: 50 New
          +1
          Quote: Nikolay73
          ... and this is a megaanalytic fake - thanks to RK for announcing the entire list at once.

          Unfortunately - it is logical ... he himself came to about the same conclusions! even worse ... by type - "worse vodka is not better."
          1. Nikolay73
            Nikolay73 27 December 2017 09: 24 New
            0
            ... apparently, the gentlemen from the RK are not even embarrassed by the word at all, and after all, more than one year the bridgehead has been prepared for this project and it has long been no longer paranoia ...
      2. Natalia777
        Natalia777 26 December 2017 20: 29 New
        +1
        Negatively. Borders cannot be broken. Each country people themselves must determine their own path of development. Enough UN. And the most progressive scammers from the Club of Rome - put in a cage - ALL.
        1. CONTROL
          CONTROL 27 December 2017 08: 51 New
          +1
          Quote: Natalia777
          And the most progressive scammers from the Club of Rome - put in a cage - ALL.

          Unfortunately - these "progressive scammers" themselves whom they want to put ... and not only in the cell! can and count ...
          1. Nikolay73
            Nikolay73 27 December 2017 09: 25 New
            0
            ...I think yes.
      3. Bibabo
        Bibabo 28 December 2017 15: 57 New
        0
        As an offer to the poor (and its justification by “necessity”) to tighten their belts and return to the animal level - “not to change circumstances, but to adapt to them”. By the way, criticism of the desire to manage the situation was previously directed against socialism with its planned economy. Now she goes to the individual level. States and large enterprises will continue to seek benefits and predict threats, but to “ordinary people”, it turns out that this is contraindicated - humility is shown ... Before the Club of Rome criticized rationalism and even touched the idea of ​​human rights, and our pseudo-patriots were inspired by posing as something "our national" ... And this is just the allocation of elites, which Zinoviev wrote about ...
    2. Dr_engie
      Dr_engie 26 December 2017 17: 41 New
      +1
      Yeah, as if our trains are not going off the rails. The event is tragic, but, unfortunately, it happens for everyone.
  8. basmach
    basmach 26 December 2017 08: 58 New
    15
    You have to look at yourself. Today we have a train flew on the Trans-Siberian Railway. A total of 250 ways were damaged. At our place, periodically what falls, explodes, breaks or does not work. Despite the various headlines "Breakthrough ... Created ...", etc.
    1. Prisoner
      Prisoner 26 December 2017 09: 28 New
      +8
      It's right. It is often necessary to look around your garden, but to put it in order. And then they took the mod- ude when the neighbor’s economy goes dead. One to one as svidomye.
  9. andrej-shironov
    andrej-shironov 26 December 2017 08: 59 New
    10
    Ah ha ha! Yuri’s level of argument goes wild! Gave, gave the baker food for the idiots! As if we have not forgotten how to do much! Competencies are lost in the mass of production due to the current government.
    1. Natalia777
      Natalia777 26 December 2017 20: 36 New
      0
      The arguments in the article are certainly not what we need. But in general, the situation in the USA is difficult and if you compare it with Russia, then in Russia everything is not so scary. In the US, much of the negative is hiding. Only the front porch is shown and that is adorned.
      1. andrej-shironov
        andrej-shironov 27 December 2017 09: 36 New
        +1
        Believe me, Natalia, we are hiding a lot and becoming public only thanks to cunning zhurnalyugami.
  10. sergo1914
    sergo1914 26 December 2017 09: 51 New
    +2
    Yesterday, several people killed a domestic bus with a domestic driver. The accident in the Moscow metro. The reason is the human factor. Installation error. Human sacrifice. Launched into the ocean satellites. And then what? Progress?
    1. bk316
      bk316 26 December 2017 12: 40 New
      +4
      And then what?

      And we are a gas station, we have drunk bears driving buses, WE CAN.
      We read the article and didn’t understand anything, not that Russia was ahead, that it was about to collapse the United States.
      1. Dr_engie
        Dr_engie 26 December 2017 17: 42 New
        0
        Rather, turning it into another Russia: D
        1. Natalia777
          Natalia777 26 December 2017 20: 40 New
          0
          Well, why so exaggerate. The United States buys rocket engines from Russia, flies on an ISS on a Russian ship, and much more ... Sarmatia. Mig 35 ... EW, etc. It will not work for the United States to reach Russia. Because they roll down, and Russia up.
          1. Dmitry Shidarev
            Dmitry Shidarev 27 December 2017 16: 15 New
            +1
            “The United States buys rocket engines from Russia” - these are engines of joint (!) Development, it’s just that it’s cheaper to produce them here, that's all. And flying on the ISS on our ship is also cheaper, you do not need to design and build your own.
            1. Nikolay73
              Nikolay73 27 December 2017 16: 52 New
              0
              ... maybe a joint one (I haven’t seen any patents), but what they buy is a fact. Strange, a cheaper word appeared in the rationale ... so they can buy if it’s profitable for them, but we don’t? Why, referring to nuclear weapons, you did not remember the German scientists transported from Germany and gave nuclear weapons as a yusovy handmade? Although, believe it. Bow down and be touched. Better yet, leave, here you will not get any use from you anyway, at least you can find harmony there.
            2. CT-55_11-9009
              CT-55_11-9009 29 December 2017 12: 32 New
              +1
              Quote: Dmitry Shidarev
              these are engines of joint (!) development, it’s just that it’s cheaper to produce them here, that's all.

              Lying. The general development, in your understanding, is the creation of a Russian-American supplier company? RD-180 - “half” of RD-170, ALL development was carried out by OUR engineers.
              1. Nikolay73
                Nikolay73 9 January 2018 14: 56 New
                0
                ... for some reason, absolutely not surprised ...
  11. Dimmih
    Dimmih 26 December 2017 10: 07 New
    0
    Here is this game: Do not outbid Washington at one time part of the Soviet elite, we would go to the United States today and shake our heads, saying: "Could such a once prosperous civilization have come to this?" no better than the article in the "History" section that there were no Mongol Tatars. Firstly, the history of the subjunctive mood does not accept, secondly, there is the verse- "He is a winner one way or another, thanks to his ingenuity or luck."
    1. Natalia777
      Natalia777 26 December 2017 20: 42 New
      +2
      In this, the author is right that if not for the betrayal of the elite, Russia would have been ahead of the rest.
      1. Bibabo
        Bibabo 28 December 2017 16: 11 New
        +1
        The only problem is that the "betrayal" itself was inevitable, since control over them was destroyed even under Stalin. A generational change was enough ... Already under Brezhnev they were only interested in their own well-being.
  12. Anyone
    Anyone 26 December 2017 10: 17 New
    10
    And the American civilization is saved from destruction so far only the ability to buy for dollars what the Americans themselves cannot produce. And every year such goods become more and more.

    The author gives out wishful thinking. And yet - let the author go to a Russian store and find at least something from manufactured goods or electronics that says “Made in Russia” (we do not consider screwdriver assembly of any Korean TV sets or Italian refrigerators). So, I just recently brought up in another topic the case when I tried to buy a domestic household gas generator and found that there are none in nature. Should one conclude from this that Russia has degraded and is not able to create even a banal bunch of a generator and a gasoline engine on a tubular frame? Or is it reasonable to assume that such products are not manufactured in our country for economic reasons, because they do not withstand competition from Chinese? And how does the US economic model differ fundamentally from the economic model of modern Russia? )))
    1. viktorch
      viktorch 26 December 2017 10: 31 New
      +3
      the usa is a colonial owner, russia is a colony, these are the differences.
      countries have different purposes from the point of view of the world elite, but the economic model is common, otherwise it is not convenient to manage.
    2. Vadim237
      Vadim237 26 December 2017 12: 21 New
      0
      In general, there are Russian gas generators on the market - only a motor, there is the Japanese "Vepr ABP", "Energy EV".
      1. Anyone
        Anyone 26 December 2017 14: 23 New
        +4
        This is a Russian brand, and the gas generator is assembled in China. Such to a fig: Skat, Ergomaks etc. From Russian in these devices, only the name in Cyrillic.
        1. Vadim237
          Vadim237 26 December 2017 16: 31 New
          0
          I doubt that on the Chinese assembly, there will be a Japanese motor.
          1. Anyone
            Anyone 26 December 2017 17: 42 New
            0
            And who told you that he is Japanese? )))
            1. Vadim237
              Vadim237 26 December 2017 23: 38 New
              0
              Production company "Honda".
              1. Anyone
                Anyone 27 December 2017 10: 20 New
                +1
                Not even in the continuation of the dispute, but simply if there ever will be a need to purchase units based on the Honda GX ICE.
                1. Engines in the Honda GX family are licensed in China. And this is the best option - I would have a German Endress generator with such a motor.
                2. Chinese unofficial Honda GX clones are produced in hundreds of factories in China. Without exception, all Chinese electric generators sold here have a Honda engine clone. For example, this is Lifan (Honda GX270).
                3. Chinese fakes (not a license!) Of Honda GX engines. In appearance, there is practically no way to distinguish.
                4. Official clones. For example, Subaru 270CC. Also available today in China.
    3. Vadim237
      Vadim237 26 December 2017 12: 25 New
      0
      And it is difficult for a domestic manufacturer to compete with world brands - since there are a lot of them on the market. The choice is up to the buyer, price, quality, etc. And so Russia produces everything from pins to nuclear reactors, satellites and rocket engines.
      1. Anyone
        Anyone 26 December 2017 14: 37 New
        +3
        We are no longer producing anything other than weapons. And that, for the most part, is still of Soviet design. The Soviet scientific and technical backlog and momentum will end - and we will buy weapons from the Chinese. Doubt - go to the nearest store. Refrigerators, televisions, computers, generators and so on - everything is either imported, or assembled at a "screwdriver" enterprise, or made from imported components. From what (and whose production) is collected, for example, the "domestic" Lada Vesta can be read here: https://dvizhok.su/parts/myi-razobrali-lada-vesta
        -iz-chego-i-kak-ona-sdelana
        1. Vadim237
          Vadim237 26 December 2017 17: 37 New
          0
          We produce and build everything ourselves - Gazprom Ogonyok in St. Petersburg. 430 meters high
          1. Greenwood
            Greenwood 27 December 2017 08: 12 New
            +1
            Gazprom Ogonyok in St. Petersburg
            Design made by European bureau Exclusiva Design. Turkish contractors work at the facility.
            1. Vadim237
              Vadim237 27 December 2017 11: 09 New
              0
              Materials people and equipment there is ours.
              1. Anyone
                Anyone 30 December 2017 12: 30 New
                0
                Is this a joke? Construction equipment (especially at such facilities) is fully imported. Pay attention, for example, to road construction work - there or in general all the equipment is imported (bulldozers, excavators, pavers, dirt rollers, graders, etc.), or you will see a maximum of KAMAZ. And that is not a fact ...
                1. Vadim237
                  Vadim237 30 December 2017 14: 05 New
                  0
                  Competition, but our technology is also not enough http://perevozka24.ru/pages/obzor-rynka-stroiteln
                  oy-tehniki-v-rossii.
        2. Roma
          Roma 1977 30 December 2017 12: 09 New
          0
          404
          Unfortunately, we did not find such a page. Please use the search or go to the main page.
    4. Natalia777
      Natalia777 26 December 2017 20: 48 New
      +2
      In fact, Russian goods are sold and bought everywhere in other countries. I have a Russian heater - FAST. Neat, small and strong. Very satisfied. And agricultural machinery manufactured in Russia is super. In addition, KMAZs are super. Yes, a lot more. We all ask in the store: Russian? and buy. Russian sockets - class, building materials, too. Chinese is NOT a competitor.
      1. Anyone
        Anyone 26 December 2017 22: 18 New
        +1
        Chinese to Chinese - discord. Goods and the PRC can be either high-quality expensive or cheap nasty quality. It makes no sense to generalize here ...
        As for KAMAZ, the percentage of licensed assembly is growing there annually. DIMLER KAMAZ RUS LLC - first Mercedes-Benz truck tractors, and now Mercedes-Benz Actros. Actros is a direct competitor to the most widespread KAMAZ truck - a dump truck. For example, 6520.
        1. Vadim237
          Vadim237 26 December 2017 23: 42 New
          0
          Well, yes, for example, in the USSR - everything was produced, but far from everyone got this "everything".
      2. CONTROL
        CONTROL 27 December 2017 08: 56 New
        +1
        Quote: Natalia777
        In fact, Russian goods are sold and bought everywhere in other countries. ... They all ask us in the store: Russian? and buy. Russian sockets - class, building materials, too. Chinese is NOT a competitor.

        But why there - God forbid, buy a Chinese bayonet shovel in the garden! and you won’t dig a garden like that ... it will break on the 1st or 2nd day!
        1. Nikolay73
          Nikolay73 27 December 2017 09: 34 New
          0
          .. the last time I take on the ruins of the domestic handmade, about Chinese shovels - I fully support.
      3. Dmitry Shidarev
        Dmitry Shidarev 27 December 2017 16: 25 New
        0
        KAMAZ is ripped off from Renault, only the chassis is reinforced (information from US) - there is something to be proud of. "And agricultural machinery produced by the Russian Federation is super" - but whoever has the money buys John Deere tractors. For some reason. And all the Russian towing equipment (planters, diggers and everything else) was made in prisons, try to do it badly there - the brigadier is rotted in the punishment cell, and when he leaves, he will teach his brigade to love life. In addition, they pay very well for such work in the area, which is not superfluous with the extremely poor food there - you can buy food in a prison stall.
        1. Nikolay73
          Nikolay73 27 December 2017 17: 03 New
          +1
          ... by the will of fate, I travel a lot and often travel across Russia, and I see CATs with the Dones a lot and often, more than the second ... I haven’t met the ones you specified ... about the ripped KAMAZ, but what exactly was ripped off from Renault? About prisons - it’s also interesting, kindly a reference? The zone and the prison are not the same thing, but you apparently do not have an understanding of what to write about.
        2. Vadim237
          Vadim237 30 December 2017 13: 53 New
          0
          Agricultural holdings and farmers have a great choice of what to buy, everyone chooses his own technique - and ours is also represented by http://catalog.agroinfo.com/
  13. viktorch
    viktorch 26 December 2017 10: 30 New
    +4
    again about the decaying west, but as much as possible, it could be considered decaying when we had our own project,
    socialism is about, and we don’t have anything more of our own, so the West is not decaying for us now, but on the contrary it is fragrant with aromas, to which local highly spiritualists cannot grow and grow, however, there will not be enough strength.
    it’s not a pretty hat, they themselves climbed into lackeys, they themselves set up fillets and sirloins, and now it means highly spiritual conversations in the style: we are strong and strong, because we are highly spiritual, but they are not.
    1. Natalia777
      Natalia777 26 December 2017 20: 52 New
      0
      You my friend lived there, were you? I did not like. Everything is puppetry and cardboard made. I love wide avenues, brick and reinforced concrete houses, earthquake-resistant, high-rise buildings, palaces and fountains.
      1. Greenwood
        Greenwood 27 December 2017 08: 13 New
        +2
        Quote: Natalia777
        I love wide avenues, brick and reinforced concrete houses, earthquake-resistant, high-rise buildings, palaces and fountains.
        Where is this?
        1. Anyone
          Anyone 30 December 2017 13: 56 New
          0
          Campaign, on the ruble ...
  14. Seld
    Seld 26 December 2017 10: 34 New
    +6
    Article for people ... Emotions and a minimum of analysis, even the most superficial!
    But it is possible without analysis ...
    "Do you want songs? - I have them!" To begin the evidence of "degradation" it is necessary to remove the dollar against the ruble from the streets and banks. No, really? Why is he? are Americans degrading? So, the buck is the same ... Or? ... Or it has a separate view: the states are in decline, but the buck is almost 70 p. over the rupee ... And the assets of the Russian Federation should also be withdrawn from a degrading economy ... For which one keeps its EPZ in a declining economy?!?!?! For example, a degrading neighbor, a drunk, lives nearby ... Who will give him their savings for storage? IPads, iPhones, Microsoft, Windows, Xerax and Houvlet Packard - TO TOPKU !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! But even on TV I see our "elites" (I would like to take it twice in quotes) with these devices, and certainly from a degrading country. Well, about Ford and General Motors and talk to him! Flying toilets! Whether it’s the case - Lada and UAZ! Do you have UAZ?
    What about NASA? NASA IS NOT OURS !!!!! On the moon, even that, nothing is clear ... They were not there !!!!!!!
    And in the Silicon Valley they make exclusively silicone products ... Well, everyone understands which ones? silicone products ...
    And in pursuit they opened a plant around the world ... Scammers !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    1. astronom1973n
      astronom1973n 26 December 2017 11: 30 New
      +7
      Rolled from the morning? wassat
    2. Natalia777
      Natalia777 26 December 2017 20: 59 New
      0
      Agree. Weak statistics and argumentation. Unemployment in the USA - 25%, homeless people in the USA - 3 million officially, the first place for prisoners, the first place for obesity - 60 percent of 100 kg overweight, more than 300 ghost towns that have recently been prosperous ... and a bunch more hidden behind the facade of shit. Everything about the United States on the question.Net website is from American publicists with translation into Russian.
  15. groks
    groks 26 December 2017 11: 05 New
    +2
    The United States may continue to rob the world. China mainly produces goods for them; the developers are now also Chinese. China cannot unfasten them, since there will be nobody to sell all this to. As long as there is attractiveness of the USA, there will come as many smart people from all over the world and they will make them the same trolleybuses. Which most likely just drove out of heaven requirements. In the end - the carriers they get. Airplanes are also obtained.
    We, after all, are no better. German turbines with scandal. Machine tools are either Chinese or a European screwdriver. Military equipment is still moving on Soviet developments. In Kazan, there is a screwdriver assembly 160, again from the Soviet backlog. The fleet is no longer oceanic in practice. At the same time, we do not have the opportunity to act like the USA - they drove the fleet, bombed, took what is needed, and the proud go.
    The collapse of the USA will cause the collapse of the entire world economy. This is not beneficial to anyone, so the Americans can even dance on the tables naked - they will be pulled by the ears. What about us? We, by the way, will also be, but not at all with such zeal.
    So the article is NEVER.

    I almost forgot. Verse B.N.Bentsianova. That way 70s, probably. “We often watch a magazine on screens of a foreign chronicle. Every time, in the same countries - showers, storms, hail, fire, collapse. But with each country, we enter the competition.
    Citizens! Well what is it! What, there’s nothing more to shoot there? "
    1. seal78
      seal78 26 December 2017 19: 50 New
      0
      And with us, and with us .... The article is not about us. And if we compare the current situation, then at least we should not forget that in the USA there were no two revolutions for 70 years, which actually nullified the economy and everything else, and Russia (the USSR) did not rob the rest of the world, as they did and do USA.
      1. groks
        groks 26 December 2017 20: 31 New
        +1
        And here all the commentators "and here". Since "and they" somehow less worried.
        The author, according to the standard methodology of our liberals, is trying to divert attention from our problems, they say look at how bad they are, but we have something hoo.
        If it’s interesting how they suck, then we type in the search engine “done by them” and enjoy. You can watch videos to the heap, starting with "How Norway lives."
        But. From this our problems will become less?
      2. CONTROL
        CONTROL 27 December 2017 09: 08 New
        +1
        Quote: seal78
        And with us, and with us .... The article is not about us. And if we compare the current situation, then at least we should not forget that in the USA there were no two revolutions for 70 years, which actually nullified the economy and everything else, and Russia (the USSR) did not rob the rest of the world, as they did and do USA.

        ... casting a broad (well, superficial ...) look at world history from - something like this ... - of the 2th century to the present day, - I say to myself: if Russia behaved as - say, - the Anglo-Saxons , then in the XXI century the planet would be 3/XNUMX of some kind of "United Russian Empire - a community of joined nations", well - or something like that! And then - we are fighting for all, we are freeing all, and - after all, suckers! - We do not rob anyone, do not corrupt and do not enslave! disorder ... God would give the "horns" of the same Great Britain (well, still less ambition, treachery and cruelty ...) - they would ... hoo! and the former colonies were kept, and the new ones would be raped to the fullest!
        ------------------------------
        ... or maybe it's dreams ... in the order of "post-alcoholic delirium" ... which is somewhat strange for a non-drinker?
    2. Natalia777
      Natalia777 26 December 2017 21: 03 New
      0
      Well, don’t do that .... Russia has built a mining complex with us. brought such mining machines - Russian-made - you never dreamed of.
      1. groks
        groks 27 December 2017 07: 41 New
        +1
        Why didn’t you dream? For example, the GOU (Mining Processing Equipment) factory, now RudGorMash, which now stands with unpaid salary and power outages for debts, dreamed. I can’t talk about what I don’t see, maybe somewhere production is booming, but what I see is very sad.
  16. Loess
    Loess 26 December 2017 11: 07 New
    +2
    Once upon a time I read someone’s paper work, which convincingly proved that by the end of the 80’s both countries, both the USA and the USSR were on the edge of the abyss, but the USA was luckier ...
    1. Natalia777
      Natalia777 26 December 2017 21: 04 New
      0
      USA in 1991-2000 ate the USSR. And now they have nothing to eat. And it was their turn to collapse into disconnected states.
      1. Greenwood
        Greenwood 27 December 2017 08: 15 New
        0
        Quote: Natalia777
        USA in 1991-2000 ate the USSR.
        The USSR officially ceased to exist in 1991. Then began the sovereign lol democratic Russia, existing to this day.
  17. Alexey-74
    Alexey-74 26 December 2017 11: 30 New
    +2
    The United States moves along the natural historical cycle, the rise and fall of Western civilization is an axiom .... The fall of the United States is increasing due to the degradation of society and the economy as a whole ..... Americans, as it were, live together with the state they created ... and the time will come when the printing press will not save them, and then there will be a big BOOM, which will affect the whole world .....
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 26 December 2017 12: 28 New
      +1
      Alas, there is no recession in the US economy - it is growing.
      1. Natalia777
        Natalia777 26 December 2017 21: 20 New
        +1
        49% of the US economy is the banking sector, where there are puffed bubbles and fake securities. From the remaining 60%, you need to subtract the inflated article of the military-industrial complex - I don’t know the exact figure, suppose 15% -5% = 10%. From the remaining 40%, you need to subtract those goods that are produced in Central Asia, the Middle East and Africa by the tolling method with an American brand (brand). The system is this: the United States purchases fabric at a factory in India, accessories in China and is transported to sew, for example, in Uzbekistan. And then he puts them in warehouses in Europe, Russia, Asia and sells them with AMAZON. In GTE, the supplier is the United States, and the sender and receiver are outside the USA. This product is also the United States writes in its GDP. This is also a big chunk - suppose 25%. And what really remains on production in the US? VPK - 15% + 20 production and services in the USA + profit from trade through AMAZON - 5%. That is, 35% of the declared GDP is real US GDP. Please note that the US GDP includes all operations that are not considered in the Russian Federation. For example, you fixed a fence to a neighbor, she gave you lunch and a bottle of vodka. In the USA, this is GDP.
      2. saturn.mmm
        saturn.mmm 27 December 2017 07: 02 New
        +1
        Quote: Vadim237
        Alas, there is no recession in the US economy - it is growing.

        And then what is the national debt growing?
  18. BAI
    BAI 26 December 2017 11: 52 New
    +3
    With a huge amount of technology, of course there will always be technical disasters. The law of large numbers. There are no technical failures only where there is no technology.
  19. vlad.svargin
    vlad.svargin 26 December 2017 11: 56 New
    +3
    In reality, the American army is a big soap bubble created practically due to virtual victories (even in the middle of the 20th century) and the Fed's machine tool. Basically, this army of bombing civilians and the image of false propaganda (borrowed from Goebbels) in their media and Hollywood products, thanks to which the United States believed in its greatness and infallibility, but essentially remained a cowboy with monkeys and colt brains ..
    1. Natalia777
      Natalia777 26 December 2017 22: 51 New
      0
      Especially if the US Army is smashed over 860 military bases, not counting the bases inside the United States. Get a thin layer of butter on a sandwich.
    2. Dmitry Shidarev
      Dmitry Shidarev 27 December 2017 16: 31 New
      0
      A cowboy with a colt and monkey brains came up with the science of cybernetics, an incandescent light bulb, jeans, a computer, microelectronics, an atomic bomb, an atomic reactor, and much more. Well done cowboy, respect.
      1. Roma
        Roma 1977 30 December 2017 12: 35 New
        +1
        Past the box office. The term “cybernetics” was created by the Frenchman, the incandescent light bulb was created by the Englishman, “jeans” is the word distorted by the Americans, it means “from Genoa”, since blue dye was supplied from Genoa for the fabric made in France. As for computers, computing devices have been known since the Middle Ages, and in the 20th century, computers were developed almost simultaneously in different countries of the world, and not only in the USA, in the same Germany, England, and the USSR. And so - whatever you dig.
  20. dDYHA
    dDYHA 26 December 2017 13: 18 New
    +1
    Well, the United States will collapse. And what will this mean for the Russian Federation? We will instantly become the new Mexico. But even that Mexico, in which Texas was not chopped off by prudent and friendly allies and neighbors.
    1. Natalia777
      Natalia777 26 December 2017 22: 54 New
      +1
      If the USA collapses, there will be few wars and other dirty tricks in the form of sanctions and sticks in the wheel in business as well as in sport and politics.
      1. Nikolay73
        Nikolay73 27 December 2017 09: 56 New
        +1
        ... I don’t think a holy place doesn’t exist empty, someone will definitely raise a fallen banner, it’s very tempting to get everything at once with a minimum of movements, we don’t participate in the Great Game due to lack of order at home, but around the world conflicts of various sizes will begin because a change in the world order will prompt many to revise their borders and catch profit in troubled waters. Here, in my opinion, it is necessary to very strongly consider what is actually better for us and I'm not sure of the unambiguity of the answer to the short and medium term prospects, but I do not have the full data or the proper competence to analyze ...
  21. Beard31
    Beard31 26 December 2017 13: 26 New
    +3
    So far, only Erefiya, the raw material pit of Putinism, is degrading. Degradation in all respects, from public administration to infrastructure, the economy. The technical degradation and competence of production personnel in general is beyond the viability of the state.
  22. Dimon19661
    Dimon19661 26 December 2017 13: 54 New
    +3
    Another nonsense on V.O.
  23. Alexex
    Alexex 26 December 2017 14: 26 New
    +3
    It all starts with the education system .... with initiative is a disaster ...
  24. Curious
    Curious 26 December 2017 15: 04 New
    +1
    The whole article can be fit into the old old folk saying about who rejoices in thought, and riches with it.
    1. CONTROL
      CONTROL 27 December 2017 09: 16 New
      +2
      Quote: Curious
      The whole article can be fit into the old old folk saying about who rejoices in thought, and riches with it.

      In a simple way, it sounds: "D.ur-e! N rum richer by thought!"
  25. g1v2
    g1v2 26 December 2017 15: 38 New
    +8
    Wow. how many trolls came running. Horror - someone looked askance at their overseas master. belay lol
    In my opinion, a couple of points should be noted. What I agree with Yuri - the American economy has been in a serious crisis for a long time, despite external power. And the main symptom is the huge US public debt and its even more huge corporate debts. I think that anyone understands that living on credit paying off debt is not a normal economy and sooner or later it will collapse. Plus, significant deindustrialization of the states, the striking evidence of which are the states of the "rust belt". That is, a significant part of industry from the states left for Southeast Asia. The negative balance of the US trade balance is from 650 to 800 billion dollars a year. This level of import dependence is also disastrous. request
    But I would not recommend burying the Anglo-Saxon elites. They have what has secured them dominance in the world for the last couple of centuries. THEY ARE PREDATORS. So they are always ready to solve their problems by eating someone. And they have one old and proven option in store - a big war with cutting and devouring competitors and their allies who turned out to be weak. And I’m sure that sooner or later they will organize a big war in Asia with the pursuit of the losers and the solution of their problems at their expense. And the main victim will be China. Just because only its eating can saturate the Anglo-Saxon elites, return industry to the states and solve their problems. Well, the main blow of the Chinese will be taken by American vassals, who at some point became competitors - Japan, South Korea and Taiwan. request
    Tch is not prematurely write off the Anglo-Saxons. They know how to fight for life and hunt prey, which means they will survive. hi
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 26 December 2017 16: 34 New
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      “The American economy has been in a serious crisis for a long time” You probably dreamed about it, as their economy grows every year. "The negative balance of the US trade balance is from 650 to 800 billion dollars a year." It just matches the defense budget.
      1. Natalia777
        Natalia777 26 December 2017 22: 56 New
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        The US is inflating the economy like a bubble. The real figure is around 35% of the declared GDP.
    2. CONTROL
      CONTROL 27 December 2017 09: 20 New
      +1
      Quote: g1v2
      Tch is not prematurely write off the Anglo-Saxons. They know how to fight for life and hunt prey, which means they will survive. hi

      he remembered something so old: "Kitten Phil," with a song of mice ... "A hunt for mice has been announced! And we ourselves hunt - a hunt !!!"
    3. Roma
      Roma 1977 30 December 2017 12: 38 New
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      India will also fit in with America. India has a large place in the US plans for a war with China.
  26. NF68
    NF68 26 December 2017 16: 25 New
    +3
    If at the present time something similar happens to the USA that happened with the USSR in 1991, then it will not be good for other countries either. Very much in the world is focused on the United States.
    1. Natalia777
      Natalia777 26 December 2017 22: 57 New
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      Take away US assets around the world.
      1. NF68
        NF68 27 December 2017 15: 30 New
        +1
        Quote: Natalia777
        Take away US assets around the world.


        It would be nice. But the fact is that such a consensus around the world on this subject may not exist. most likely it will definitely not be. And this will not give the desired effect.
  27. 44 Locomotive
    44 Locomotive 26 December 2017 16: 34 New
    +4
    all this is certainly wonderful, even if they are degrading, they have earned it dozens of times, but you can’t relax, do not underestimate the enemy.
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 26 December 2017 16: 38 New
      +6
      Russia's economy may collapse faster than the United States — for what year have they been talking about the collapse of the American economy, its degradation — but in fact, it grows and develops every year. Even in the long term, until the year 2050, there will certainly not be anything with her, but with ours?
      1. Natalia777
        Natalia777 26 December 2017 22: 58 New
        +1
        The US is inflating the economy like a bubble. The real figure is around 35% of the declared GDP.
  28. astankard
    astankard 26 December 2017 17: 50 New
    +1
    The United States is degrading morally ... or rather, they have always been political and moral ye..kami ... And with technology and progress, everything is fine with them ... No, la-la.
    1. Natalia777
      Natalia777 26 December 2017 23: 01 New
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      Specialists engineers there are actually foreigners. They fly into space on Russian ships, the engines for rockets are Russian, there are no icebreakers for the Arctic, the RF SU-5 is better, submarines are better, tanks are better. They do not even participate in the tank biathlon - they are afraid.
      1. Dmitry Shidarev
        Dmitry Shidarev 27 December 2017 16: 34 New
        +1
        rocket engines is a joint development with the Americans, it’s easy to make them cheaper here.
      2. astankard
        astankard 27 December 2017 18: 34 New
        +1
        Not tired of sculpting all kinds of nonsense about space? Before repeating, like an ass, and all about trampolines, you at least took an interest in American rocket engines, of which the RD-180 is legally.
        The United States has its own icebreaker fleet and, in view of Alaska, 5 icebreakers, as well as 6 Canada, were perfectly missed. This is all in ice with us, from Murmansk to Vladik .... It would be a sin for us not to have a large ice fleet, which was also nearly destroyed ...
        Who is the best out of planes will show only a real battle, and not only who has the best planes, but also who has these “better” - more.
        Before talking nonsense about submarines, I would ask you, which submarines do we have better? Silent diesels?
        Yes, it’s better, because the Amers simply don’t have any ... And to compare with atomic ones is idiocy.
        And with the nuclear ... I can say that we have no worse - 40 submarines .. amers really have 70 ....
        And who told you that the Americans are AFRAID of participating in the tank biathlon? What kind of pimple journalist cap-taker in his snotty article?
        For example, “Leopard” or “Abrams” are no longer tanks, in the literal sense of the word. And this opinion is not of some kind of “ekperd”, but of Germans, developers of “2a7”, these are self-propelled artillery systems.
        Compared to our tanks, they have a completely different strategy. More dimensions, one and a half times - weight ... etc.
        However, the Germans also said that only Russia now has tanks, and “leopards”, even “MBT Revolution”, are a dead end.
        So ... if you don’t know something, contact ... I’m smarting from the chair ....
      3. astankard
        astankard 27 December 2017 18: 37 New
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        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DF46RDxXK84
      4. astankard
        astankard 27 December 2017 19: 20 New
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        Not tired of sculpting all kinds of nonsense about space? Before repeating, like an ass, and all about trampolines, you at least took an interest in American rocket engines, of which the RD-180 is legally.
        The United States has its own icebreaker fleet and, in view of Alaska, 5 icebreakers, as well as 6 Canada, were perfectly missed. This is all in ice with us, from Murmansk to Vladik .... It would be a sin for us not to have a large ice fleet, which was also nearly destroyed ...
        Who is the best out of planes will show only a real battle, and not only who has the best planes, but also who has these “better” - more.
        Before talking nonsense about submarines, I would ask you, which submarines do we have better? Silent diesels?
        Yes, it’s better, because the Amers simply don’t have any ... And to compare with atomic ones is idiocy.
        And with the nuclear ... I can say that we have no worse - 40 submarines .. amers really have 70 ....
        And who told you that the Americans are AFRAID of participating in the tank biathlon? What kind of pimple journalist cap-taker in his snotty article?
        For example, “Leopard” or “Abrams” are no longer tanks, in the literal sense of the word. And this opinion is not of some kind of “ekperd”, but of Germans, developers of “2a7”, these are self-propelled artillery systems.
        Compared to our tanks, they have a completely different strategy. More dimensions, one and a half times - weight ... etc.
        However, the Germans also said that only Russia now has tanks, and “leopards”, even “MBT Revolution”, are a dead end.
        So ... if you don’t know something, contact ... I’m smarting from the chair ....
  29. staviator
    staviator 26 December 2017 18: 56 New
    +5
    We love to notice and relish other people's accidents and problems, ignoring ours. An article in the style of "a la Sovdep", like in America everything is bad and will collapse soon. They wrote that several years remained when the US national debt was 2 trillion. I’m waiting for about 30 years , debt increased tenfold! , but there are almost no changes. Conclusion: go to ..... with your analytics.
    1. seal78
      seal78 26 December 2017 19: 57 New
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      And the article is not about us. Why translate the topic? Or are you a masochist, love to relish your problems?
  30. staviator
    staviator 26 December 2017 19: 31 New
    +2
    In 1976, the first cars entered the line, and after four years everyone agreed that the United States was unable to produce its own trolleybuses. Forgotten how.

    Yes, they have not forgotten how, but felt that it is economically unprofitable to establish their own production of what nafig is not necessary in large quantities. All America on its wheels is old and young. That's the whole reason. The article sucks.
  31. Natalia777
    Natalia777 26 December 2017 19: 53 New
    +2
    I can not agree that the situation in the United States is the same as in the 70s in the USSR. Of course, in the USSR few modern electronic household items were produced. And cars and vehicles were far from modern design and without frills. But as for the reliability of trains, cars, trolleybuses, etc. - then the USSR kept a high mark. Still go pennies, Volga, Lada, bicycles. In addition, the USSR had spacecraft, rocket launchers, the ISS, airplanes - and of excellent quality. In addition, power plants were built from their own turbines and nuclear plants were built by themselves - the best in the world, then and now. So no need to cast a shadow on the wattle fence. The USA is in itself, the USSR is completely different problems.
    1. Dmitry Shidarev
      Dmitry Shidarev 27 December 2017 09: 19 New
      +1
      This “penny” is “Lada 2101”, this Italian car, FIAT-124, with a suspension reinforced under our killed roads, the factory in Tolyatti, on which they were made, was built by Italians according to the Italian project. Is there anything to be proud of? And not “launch vehicles”, but launch vehicles, they do not carry rockets on themselves, but space objects payload. But there were no computers on domestic components either. And it won’t, because there are no manufacturing technologies for these components. And no one will sell them to us. Airplanes of excellent quality, yes. A good example of the Tu-104. While he was a Tu-16 bomber, he was really reliable, the pilots praised. As they converted it into a passenger, it immediately began to fall. Another reliable aircraft is the Tu-144. Once, at an air show in Bourges, he fell into the village, the crew and local residents died. Tupolevsky son tried to bring it to mind, but failed. He flew to Alma-Ata until he crashed with passengers. Then the project was closed. So the stolen documentation didn’t work for the future. And Concord was in operation for several decades, flew to America until it also crashed with passengers, but not because it was done poorly, but because something fell on the runway from the previous plane, and with this object Concord broke through the tank and started fire.
      1. Nikolay73
        Nikolay73 27 December 2017 11: 02 New
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        ... do you think today's Russia (like the USSR at one time) is an empty place in the world or a dull village gas station? And the whole civilized world - completely smart little light-haired angels not flying on gasoline but floating on antigravity? Then why should we drown ourselves as a syri? Yes, a penny 124 Fiat so what? How many countries have purchased a license to produce AK? We buy telephones and PCs from China with Indian firmware, building nuclear power plants in India, selling weapons all over the world in India ... we don’t have a household processor, but we have our own military ... About Tukhi you want 134 you don’t remember how good or not it was released very much all over the world, but you persistently remember 144, and then RDs remember that it’s light-haired people with all their greatness and money that will not give up our trash and about concords you are somehow quite too short ... According to our submarines too the stolen info didn’t go to proc, by the way, probably the Russians came up with industrial and military espionage, right? It seems, according to the photo, the uncle is about gray hair, but the arguments, excuse me, are somehow rather weak ...
  32. Dimax
    Dimax 26 December 2017 21: 18 New
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    Hitler and the Japs also did not take Americans seriously .....
  33. NordUral
    NordUral 26 December 2017 22: 15 New
    +2
    Maybe enough about America, Ukraine and Europe? Let's take a look at ourselves. And how, a joyful picture?
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 26 December 2017 23: 45 New
      0
      And everything is fine with us - we are steadily moving forward, despite the sanctions and crises.
  34. asr55
    asr55 26 December 2017 23: 11 New
    +2
    I wish that the Americans were like that. But the author has too thickened the events. Now the United States is a very powerful state machine, influencing the whole world and dictating its policy. Yes, she is immoral, hypocritical, lying. But what she has forgotten how to do, create and build is too much. You need to be aware of the reality that would resist this machine of lies. If not Russia and China, they would have crushed the whole world for themselves. The author is right in one thing - the degradation of the United States and the West, as the state and society goes. And it cannot be otherwise for countries remaking their history for themselves, contrary to logic, replacing spiritual and moral values, pursuing a false and hypocritical policy of complete lies. But for now, with a pin .. until .. you need to be on the alert and not show your weakness and most importantly do not let it be used.
    1. Dmitry Shidarev
      Dmitry Shidarev 27 December 2017 13: 34 New
      0
      Judgments are just like from the journal "Communist". Less need to read the newspaper "Pravda" and state. Watch TV, then, you look, and adequacy will increase. And it’s best to go there and see for yourself. True, for this you need to know the language at least somehow, but with this, there is reason to believe that there are big problems.
      1. Nikolay73
        Nikolay73 27 December 2017 16: 07 New
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        ... you believe that all those who are not native speakers of great English are not able to think adequately? And in order to understand what is electricity, you need to see an electron? And indeed, “judgments are just like from the journal“ Communist. ”Less need to read the newspaper“ Pravda ”and watch state TV,” I’ll add and live with my own brains if they certainly exist ...
  35. VIa70286887
    VIa70286887 26 December 2017 23: 50 New
    0
    We can clearly see how America destroys itself.
    1. Dmitry Shidarev
      Dmitry Shidarev 27 December 2017 09: 04 New
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      And how does she do it? Are there any examples?
  36. Moon reflection
    Moon reflection 27 December 2017 01: 15 New
    +2
    We have the same. Missiles fall one by one. Specialists in the rocket field receive less than 20 tr salaries. And the authorities live in a big way.
  37. myobius59
    myobius59 27 December 2017 01: 34 New
    0
    Oh, for only painfully long they will degrade at such a pace. In our lifetime, we certainly will not see their complete degradation. Rather, even we ourselves are degrading them forward, with our rulers ....
  38. Dmitry Shidarev
    Dmitry Shidarev 27 December 2017 09: 02 New
    +2
    "the reliability of new cars was to grow 10-12 times" ???? Does the author of this patriotic imperishable understand what he writes about? If he understands, let him explain. Maybe he meant the service life until the first repair? As for the Amtrak train wreck, I would not gloat. People died, and it doesn’t matter whether they are Americans or Papuans. And it happened most likely because the train on the bend to the bridge had a speed higher than that allowed on this section. And he is heavy, he has as many as 2 locomotives.
  39. Khazarin
    Khazarin 27 December 2017 20: 14 New
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    Quote: Rurikovich
    I meant quietly for the world.
    Alas! And it’s not quiet for the world! Due to our collapse, it became possible to wipe out several countries from the face of the Earth!
  40. Dimmih
    Dimmih 28 December 2017 11: 53 New
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    Quote: Natalia777
    In this, the author is right that if not for the betrayal of the elite, Russia would have been ahead of the rest.

    If, yes, if only mushrooms would grow everywhere. One must look not at the glorious past, but at a rather average present, so that our children have a calm future. Otherwise, we will move backwards.
  41. Serzh_R
    Serzh_R 28 December 2017 14: 27 New
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    The US is degrading. And very fast

    Well, very funny for this nonsense!
    There are many weapons, economies, and cosmos through the "degradation" of the USA.
    Google the US map and see the extent of degradation.
    Only the majority of Russians in the endless struggle for progress do not have time to live as it should.
  42. flicker
    flicker 29 December 2017 02: 01 New
    +2
    The pace of the collapse of the United States begin to grow quite quickly. Trump’s presidency is the best evidence of this - Clinton’s failure is voters' assessment of the board of Democratic and Republican supporters in recent years. Trump built his election campaign precisely on criticizing the serious problems that America has been experiencing for the past ten years.
    And it seems that no recipe has yet been found for a way out of this situation.
  43. TTX
    TTX 29 December 2017 11: 05 New
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    Quote: soldier
    All rot
    And we are all developing

    Yeah, and we’ll never develop, a long-growing organism lol
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  45. Balagan
    Balagan 30 December 2017 18: 57 New
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    Yes, there is a crisis. Only lifebuoys they themselves stuck quite a few. Wait, wait ...
  46. realist
    realist 1 January 2018 16: 54 New
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    I do not agree with the author in everything, the degradation is artificial, it takes place at the will of the “Committee of 300” and not just like that. But it’s not worth relaxing, we have problems with research and development, and with production in general. When we start to decide then we can relax the rolls. But we must take into account that they have both human and financial reserves many times larger than ours.
  47. RobertZone
    RobertZone 1 January 2018 19: 31 New
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    Two examples as evidence of the theory of degradation. A train accident cannot be proof of anything until it becomes systemic. Accidents happen everywhere, and in Europe and in Russia and in China. The author, where is the systematic approach, where are the accident statistics for the year, for 5 years? Dynamics? The cars did not pass the test, so what? They are new, revision will follow and everything will be normal. Where does this propaganda come from? Have you been to the USA yourself? Not? So take a trip and look at the rotting country.
  48. nikolaev
    nikolaev 2 January 2018 11: 27 New
    0
    the collapse of the US is just around the corner. Representatives of different nations were forcibly and freely included in the United States in various ways (even often opposite), and they were united after many squabbles for a short period of time with the so-called American dream and better living conditions at the expense of other countries.
    Now the American dream and wealth have been sprayed into the basements of the Fed and the pockets of its owners, and the United States does not hold anything together, but only separates the lack of democracy and freedom, the poverty of the vast majority of the population, which is different and opposed by nationality.
    Previously, wars came to the rescue as a source of wealth and unification by robbery, but now everyone can see that the owners of democracy earn money from the wars, all the rest are left behind, and therefore an ever smaller number of scumbags want to fight, let alone fight for the welfare of clans that own the United States. To fight in Africa against half-naked poor people - wherever you go, and where you have to die, as in Vietnam there are no bad people - and this is what the American elites carefully hide. Arabs have been lured, but they also seem to be seeing.