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The prosecutor's office of the YNAO ran from the case

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Deal with the performance of our students in the Bundestag are trying to "merge" the most vulgar way


The prosecutor's office of the YNAO ran from the case


As i reported, my appeals (I am sure that appeals of other people) are redirected to the prosecutor's office of the YNAO. It was still within the law. But the prosecutor's office of the YNAO ... forwarded the appeal to the education department of the YNAO, and “the answer on the merits of the appeal will be given by the education department of the YNAO”

Allow me, but I asked to check the speeches of schoolchildren for violations of the law, more specifically, on the basis of the rehabilitation of Nazism! So what have the department of education? Since when do our education departments evaluate acts for violations of the law? This is the direct responsibility and the prerogative of the prosecutor's office! Neither the investigative committee, nor the FSB or the Ministry of Internal Affairs will be able to investigate the case, if the prosecutor's office considers that there are no signs of a crime, on the other hand, they will not be able to “merge” the case when the prosecutor's office believes that there are signs of a crime.

The prosecutor’s office should give an answer to the appeal about the signs of a crime with a conclusion: either there are signs of a crime, the case is filed and transferred to the investigation there, or there are no signs of a crime.

But there is no such conclusion in the response of the YNAO prosecutor's office. The prosecutor's office of the YNAO eliminated the answer on the merits, which itself indicated in plain text.

If we evaluate it in the army, such behavior of the prosecutor's office of the YNAO is an escape from the battlefield. Shameful escape.

The only guilty are trying to expose the staff of the Lyceum, who organized trips to schoolchildren. I do not condone the teachers who brought up the defeatists, they must be punished. And not a reprimand, but at least a disqualification. But the self-dismissal of the prosecutor’s office knowingly leaves without any influence the “Ebert Foundation” associated with the German intelligence BND ("Besogon", watch with 19 minutes). The Department of Education, even if it shows the wonders of patriotism, cannot do anything with this foundation, the Department of Education does not have such rights.

Moreover, such behavior of the prosecutor's office actually blocks the possibility of investigation to all law enforcement agencies.

It is clear that the prosecutor’s office is acting (more precisely, is inactive) with an eye on Putin’s approval of this “reconciliation over the graves” project.

Therefore, I sent the following appeal to the electronic reception office of the President of the Russian Federation:

In the electronic reception of the President of the Russian Federation.

Name of state body: President of the Russian Federation V.V. Putin

Surname, name, patronymic: Svateev Viktor Alekseevich.

Email Address: XXXXXXXX.

Phone: ХХХХХХХХ.

Type: appeal.

Text:

Comrade Supreme Commander!

29 June 2016 of the Year You approved the project (further I quote from TASS) "Work for Peace - Reconciliation of Graves", which is carried out by the German school in Moscow with the support of the German National Union for the Care of Soldiers' Graves and the German Embassy.

You have decided that this project will help Russian and German students "to see what the desire to enslave other countries leads to." For some reason, you were not embarrassed that this project was timed not for Victory Day, not for the anniversary of the defeat of Nazi Germany, but for the 75 anniversary of the attack of Nazi Germany on the USSR. You considered the project a "timely and useful initiative."

First, let me find out what powers you, as the President of the Russian Federation, lack, to initiate the creation of a Russian school curriculum for stories, from which our schoolchildren would learn the truth: what did the delusional, hateful, racial ideas of German fascism lead to? Is it really impossible to tell Russian schoolchildren without the help of the German school in Moscow ?!

Hiding behind your approval, within the framework of this project, Russian schoolchildren were taken to German graves. For example, N. Desyatnichenko in the Bundestag recalled visiting only German graves and did not say that he was taken to the graves of our defenders of the Fatherland.

As part of the project you approved, the Ebert Foundation entered our schools, which is banned in our ally Belarus, and the German intelligence agency BND worked in Turkey on the basis of this foundation.

The result of the project you approved was the shameful performances of Russian schoolchildren in the Bundestag. Or do you think the normal regrets of our schoolchildren for the "innocently killed" German fascist invaders ?!

You once recalled that your mother did not hate the Germans. I believe. My grandmother did not hate either, although in the 1942 year, then a widow (grandfather died in October 1941), she and my 5-year-old mom didn’t die under a Nazi bombing in her own farm near Stalingrad. After the Battle of Stalingrad, German prisoners of war restored the destroyed houses and cowsheds in the farm for a long time, often came to the residents to exchange some of the products they were given at the soldier’s standard for others. In our farm, not one prisoner died. My grandmother did not hate the captive Germans. But she did not forgive them.

Our people have long been reconciled with the Germans. It happened 9 May 1945 of the year.

In 1990, I also served in the Group of Soviet Forces in Germany (GDR), and not far from you: I was guarding the Brandis airfield. I have repeatedly met elderly Germans who fought on the Eastern Front. All of them were asking for a conversation about that time, mostly telling where and when they were injured. Hate them ?! A lot of honor! They were just not interesting to me.

So with whom I and my children should "reconcile over the graves" ?! We have defeated the invaders, the question is closed for us. And for honest Germans, the question is also closed, they too have long been reconciled with us that fascism should not appear on German soil anymore.

But there are other Germans who are still not reconciled. With defeat, they are not reconciled. They want to replay the war, win it backdating at least morally. These are the Germans who are organizing the "reconciliation over the graves" projects.

You have "consecrated" this project "over the graves" - and you close it. Because after your approval, the prosecutor's office does not even check the blatant speeches of our schoolchildren in the Bundestag, but forwarded my appeal to the education department of the YNAO "for a response on the merits." But I asked to check the speech of N. Desyatnichenko and others on the grounds of the criminal offense "rehabilitation of Nazism". Does the prosecutor not know that the assessment of acts for the presence / absence of corpus delicti is his prerogative, and not the department of education?

I am sure that the prosecutor interferes with your approval of the project.

I SUGGEST YOU to publicly condemn the rehabilitation of the fascist invaders by our schoolchildren in the Bundestag and initiate a full-scale investigation of this incident, the establishment of all the organizers and executors of this rehabilitation, the investigation and evaluation of the activities of the Ebert Foundation and other relevant structures in Russia.

Yours faithfully - Reserve Officer Svateev Viktor Alekseevich.

400015, Volgograd, ul. ХХХХХХХХХХХХХХ.

Sent: December 25 2017 of the Year, 15: 42.

How to join the appeal?

In the comments to the previous article I was offered to create a petition to which they could join. But the situation with petitions is as follows.

Presidential Administration monitors petitions on the site "Russian Public Initiative". To vote for a petition on this site, a person must register with the ESIA, as far as I remember (I am registered), in order to identify (get the password), you must go to the nearest MFC with a passport. That is, mass support to get on this site is difficult.

Works fine "Change.org". But the resource is not Russian, and the attention to it from the official authorities is appropriate (and correctly, there you can "wind up" any support for any petition).

Therefore, the simplest and most effective is to send electronic address to the president. They will not be able to notice. Especially in the event that the same will be many.

There is one feature: the text of the appeal cannot be copied from somewhere and pasted, you will have to type directly on the site, I was busy with my own for a long time. Therefore, I propose a short text of the appeal:

"Comrade supreme commander!

I ask you to publicly condemn the rehabilitation of the fascist invaders by our schoolchildren in the Bundestag and initiate a full-scale investigation of this incident. "

There will be an effect not on the length of the appeal, but on their number.
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  1. 210ox
    210ox 27 December 2017 06: 00 New
    30
    You are arguing against the government, for which most voters will vote in a few months .. Think about whether to try to protect our dead soldiers, our grandfathers and great-grandfathers ... once we betrayed them ourselves .... Voting for this ... You You see how the representatives of the current government stood up for the kinship that didn’t remember ... And what do you want the prosecutor’s office to start biting the hand of the giver?
    1. Sling cutter
      Sling cutter 27 December 2017 06: 34 New
      34
      Quote: 210ox
      ..You see how they stood up for the kinship of those who do not remember the representatives of the current government ...

      But doesn’t the power stand up for the protection of the same oligarchs robbing the country, but doesn’t the authorities otmazyvat corrupt officials with one hand, throwing the patriots behind bars with the other hand.
      But is it not the authorities who repented for the Katyn executions?
      But isn't power the power of the Lenrapian Mausoleum during the Parade? And then he hangs up memorial plaques to the Mannerheim, open ebn centers, "crying walls" ...., displays the country's team under the white flag ...
      All this is done with our connivance. Many of us consider the number of cars on the streets of the cities and the increase of pottage in our own bowl, and the country, meanwhile, goes into oblivion ...
      1. your1970
        your1970 27 December 2017 08: 41 New
        +4
        Quote: Stroporez
        But is it not the authorities who repented for the Katyn executions?
        -you will not believe:COMMUNIST power started first repent .....
        But only then already EBN
        1. viktorch
          viktorch 27 December 2017 10: 12 New
          +4
          yes you che, a link to the proof or crap anal_oy initiation
          1. your1970
            your1970 27 December 2017 10: 50 New
            +3
            "After the liberation of Smolensk by the Soviet troops, a commission of Nikolai Burdenko was created, which, after conducting its own investigation, concluded that Polish citizens were shot in Katyn in 1941 by German occupation forces. This conclusion was the official point of view in the USSR and the Warsaw Pact countries until 1990, when the leadership of the USSR officially recognized the responsibility of the NKVD of the USSR"
            "Having obtained from the mediocre Gorbachev leadership in April 1990 years shameful public repentance for Hitler’s sins, that is, the publication of the TASS Report that “The Soviet side, expressing deep regret at the Katyn tragedy, declares that it represents one of the serious crimes of Stalinism", Counterrevolutionaries of all stripes have successfully used this explosion of the" Khrushchev’s time bomb "- false documents about Katyn - for their base subversive purposes. "
            The leadership of the USSR at that time (1990g.) were LEGALLY COMMUNISTS(there were no polls and non-partisans in the Politburo / Presidium of the Supreme Council) - and do not care that they were not in the shower: legally recognized COMMUNIST MANAGEMENT OF THE USSR
            1. viktorch
              viktorch 27 December 2017 12: 06 New
              +9
              Well, write that Gorbachev and his pi_ry,
              and not in the context of justification ebn, from the same gang, and from the same period.
              ebn the same communist was legally once
              1. your1970
                your1970 27 December 2017 13: 51 New
                +4
                Quote: viktorch
                Well, write that Gorbachev and his pi_ry, and not in the context of justifying ebn, from the same gang, and from the same period. ebn the same communist was legally once
                -
                those. YOUR tantrum ALREADY ended ???
                Quote: viktorch
                yes you che, a link to the proof or crap anal_oy initiation

                was it worth poking your nose into the facts?
                1. viktorch
                  viktorch 27 December 2017 13: 58 New
                  +6
                  you justified EBN, and kodlu, and merged it was worth asking a question,
                  or are you still making excuses?
                  let's say that it’s not Kodla Gorobchev-ebn-Putin who repented for Katyn, the communists are to blame for everything, let's continue to burn

                  although you can’t say it, he himself quoted a contradiction to your position
                  1. your1970
                    your1970 27 December 2017 15: 40 New
                    +3
                    read my post again slowly, thoughtfully
                    Quote: your1970
                    Quote: Stroporez
                    But is it not the authorities who repented for the Katyn executions?
                    -you will not believe:COMMUNIST power started first repent .....
                    But only then already EBN
                    -finger show where it says that I I justify ebn ??
                    The fact that in 1990 the leadership of the USSR recognized, was also fixed, as if you agree?
                    The fact that it was communist at that time does not even need your consent ...
                    Quote: viktorch
                    let's say that it’s not Kodla Gorobchev - Ebn Putin repented for Katyn, the Communists are to blame for everything,
                    - it was Gorbachev’s “Codla” who made it the first in 1990 (with the USSR alive)
                    "Well, write that Gorbachev and him pi_ry "- It’s the Communists, all 16 million are to blame for the fact that such as Gorbachev came to power, it was the Communists who mediocrely pumped the country. Which of them opposed the change of power? Which of the army (KGB, Ministry of Internal Affairs) -and everything there, starting from the major were party, resisted the three of Belovezhskaya’s?
                    So you write correctly - "Gorbachev and him pi_ry "(all 16 million)
                    1. zoolu350
                      zoolu350 27 December 2017 16: 20 New
                      +4
                      Gorbachev and his pi__ry are communists who betrayed their people, for the sake of serving their enemies (the owners of the Fed), that is, they are Vlasovites. Therefore, Gorbachev, EBN, the oligarchy of the Russian Federation are all neovlasovs, not real communists, the definitions must be accurate.
                      1. Mih1974
                        Mih1974 28 December 2017 05: 54 New
                        +7
                        I support that same Vlasov (general), before being captured and his crime "betrayal of the motherland", was a Communist, and a military leader, and even a kind of good general. But this does not somehow connect the Communists and the Communist Party of the USSR with the fact that he became the transmitter of the motherland negative "any herring is a fish, but not any fish is a herring" (c).
                        "tagged", eBN, and even a thief called oligarchs who were mistakenly accepted into the Communist Party - do not cast a shadow on the party itself, because this is an insignificant number of the many millions of USSR citizens who wanted and aspired to become a communist. For whom it was not an empty phrase.
                        Actually, this is why the very concept of "traitor of the Motherland" exists, it does not denigrate the people from whom this traitor is, it is precisely a renegade, a geek, a "non-human being", a mistake of nature, etc. Peoples, including large parties, are "judged" by the bulk, but not by individual "exceptions." Here are some examples: Copernicus - an outstanding person for his time, an astronomer and mathematician and Pole; but this in no way "extends" his achievements to the whole nation - the Poles in their mass are not outstanding mathematicians or astronomers. Perhaps this is even the only Polish astronomer of this level. But their neighbors, the Germans - without reservation are the personification of order and manufacturability, German technology has always (until the Turks began to collect it instead of the Germans) was considered - the standard of reliability and thoughtfulness. And although in the mathematical world there are a lot of European (I wrote Russian there) “surnames”, but the Indians are very unusual people - they just have amazing nuggets (which die in the vastness of India and the lack of mechanisms for finding gifted people). Actually, just a game of chess is one of the "unusual indicators" for a predisposition to analysis, including mathematics. repeat
                      2. your1970
                        your1970 28 December 2017 09: 56 New
                        +3
                        Mih1974
                        "tagged", eBN, and even a thief called oligarchs who by mistake were accepted into the communist party - they do not cast a shadow on the party itself, for this is an insignificant number of the many millions of USSR citizens who wanted and sought to become a communist. For whom it was not an empty phrase. "- I lived in those days .... You can tell the current USE experts about how it was and about" we did not know that Humpbacked is not a good person "
                        This "insignificant amount" was accepted as a candidate, as a party, they were elected primary members to party committees, then became deputies of district / regional / regional conferences, then 3/2/1 secretaries of regions / regional / regional committees, then Moscow, then Old Square. And all the way they took apart the bones ...
                        It today an incomprehensible person could become the head, having jumped out of nowhere or someone's relative - then to become a banal district head / collective farm chairman / workshop head just like that, without a certain path along the party ladder IMPOSSIBLE.
                        Democratic centralism ....
                        And if Gorbachev has grown to the Secretary General, then this means that on all his way ALL was on the drum, everyone just did "Approves !!!". That is why ALL Communists - members of the CPSU are directly responsible for everything that happened in the country in 1991.

                        Z.Y. I was urgently shoved as a candidate for party membership. And on my objections (and I considered myself unworthy recourse repeat in all seriousness !!!) - the Komsomol organizer and Party organizer said: "Are you sick or something? Do you not understand your prospects? Let's don’t wander off the nerves of people !!!"
                    2. 210ox
                      210ox 28 December 2017 10: 07 New
                      +3
                      It was no longer communist ... They are degenerates and Judas. They didn’t smell like communists there. By the way, in 1989 I refused to join the party, which turned into a compromising one and following the enemies of my Motherland.
                      Quote: your1970
                      read my post again slowly, thoughtfully
                      Quote: your1970
                      Quote: Stroporez
                      But is it not the authorities who repented for the Katyn executions?
                      -you will not believe:COMMUNIST power started first repent .....
                      But only then already EBN
                      -finger show where it says that I I justify ebn ??
                      The fact that in 1990 the leadership of the USSR recognized, was also fixed, as if you agree?
                      The fact that it was communist at that time does not even need your consent ...
                      Quote: viktorch
                      let's say that it’s not Kodla Gorobchev - Ebn Putin repented for Katyn, the Communists are to blame for everything,
                      - it was Gorbachev’s “Codla” who made it the first in 1990 (with the USSR alive)
                      "Well, write that Gorbachev and him pi_ry "- It’s the Communists, all 16 million are to blame for the fact that such as Gorbachev came to power, it was the Communists who mediocrely pumped the country. Which of them opposed the change of power? Which of the army (KGB, Ministry of Internal Affairs) -and everything there, starting from the major were party, resisted the three of Belovezhskaya’s?
                      So you write correctly - "Gorbachev and him pi_ry "(all 16 million)
                      1. passerby5
                        passerby5 28 December 2017 14: 32 New
                        0
                        say for sure, well, 80 percent sure-Judah by that time there were
                      2. Sling cutter
                        Sling cutter 28 December 2017 18: 49 New
                        +3
                        Quote: 210ox
                        The communists did not smell there. By the way, in 1989 I refused to join the party, which had turned into a compromising one and following the enemies of my homeland.

                        Man, we are the same age. good drinks
                        I’ll tell you so, the Communist and the opportunist are two big differences. I saw both of them. I was in our company party organizer, Man of the Mountain, strict and fair to indecent, always in the thick of things always with soldiers, at all exits with us , dragged on himself everything that the soldier, in general, his on the board, and on the other hand, the Officer, with a capital letter. His second term has already expired, and he is all with us ..., by rotation it was time to send a substitution. ., and here three months are already superfluous. With it in fire and water, he tells me, it’s time for you, they say, to the party, we need such, impudent, independent, correct. Come on, grit, join. I’m right up to tears, such trust is trishch. Captain, ready, I say. I became a candidate ... When they sent me a new one, we watched with the poets how we worked out our new one for 45 minutes behind the tents, for not changing it in time .... But a new udot turned out to be ..., for orders, but came to a career ..., didn’t engage in upbringing, but drummed at all. At party meetings I began to speak, so this (obscenities are prohibited by the rules of the site) is not a good person. I didn’t miss two prizes, but I wish he had prizes with them, he ditched the mechanic of water Bemdehi .., decided to fight, the machine was killed in the rubbish, and the soldier of the witness went to the “resort”, and Zvezdochka himself for a scratch .....
                        After that I got involved with such party members.
                        And now, at least join the party again.
    2. neri73-r
      neri73-r 27 December 2017 15: 45 New
      +4
      The article, from the point of view of claims to the prosecutor’s office, is completely illiterate (I do not give an assessment of the actions of this boy in Germany)!

      Moreover, such behavior of the prosecutor's office actually blocks the possibility of investigation to all law enforcement agencies.

      And this is generally pearl! Dear author, we have completely independent and independent SC of the Russian Federation and the FSB of the Russian Federation, but in general, before writing, you sometimes need to look at the regulatory framework !!! Criminal Procedure Code, Criminal Code, Law on the Prosecutor's Office, etc .... hi
      Once again, I do not whitewash these boys and those who sent them to Germany.
      1. passing
        passing 27 December 2017 16: 46 New
        +5
        And this is generally pearl! Dear author, we have completely independent and independent SC of the Russian Federation and the FSB of the Russian Federation, but in general, before writing, you sometimes need to look at the regulatory framework !!

        An ordinary citizen is not obliged to delve into! Jurisdiction should be determined by the organization that accepted the application, and send a notification to the applicant where the application was sent.
        Apparently, in the prosecutor’s office dumb hi
      2. Svateev
        27 December 2017 17: 14 New
        +3
        Quote: neri73-r
        we have completely independent and independent SC of the Russian Federation and the FSB of the Russian Federation

        They are not supervised by the prosecutor's office ?! Please provide confirmation of your statements from the CPC.
    3. the most important
      the most important 27 December 2017 18: 32 New
      +3
      Quote: 210ox
      You are arguing against the government, for which a majority of voters will vote in a few months.

      Well, this is not a fact ... in the absence of a choice, the government receives its interest ... and many will not go to vote at all.
      1. Jingibi
        Jingibi 30 December 2017 03: 13 New
        +1
        And in this "failure" the main mistake. The election process is a very good indicator. I myself tried to participate in the primaries and drew attention to the fact that if citizens really vote, then here the field for forgery oh how it narrows
    4. Black_Vatnik
      Black_Vatnik 28 December 2017 02: 39 New
      +6
      But did someone seriously think that for the stupidity of this boy they would be severely asked from Yamal jackets? It was obvious from the very beginning that this case would be put on the brakes. We ourselves are to blame.
    5. Mih1974
      Mih1974 28 December 2017 05: 33 New
      +7
      Are you sure that the majority? I don’t know how others, but personally it all bothered me. The last drops were the "White Flag Olympics" of Surrender and the facts that led Grudinin am And the information has proved to me that Russia has exhausted its financial reserves already at the lowest level - Consumers !! am I naively waited for everyone - "well, when will the President stop watching Olympus to all these outrages in the economy and will replace these ghouls with the patriots of Russia? " belay fool Fse, "You are no longer to me, not to you" (c). And how much strength is enough - I will inform all of my surroundings with my arguments (it is legal to have an opinion and share it with other people).
    6. passerby5
      passerby5 28 December 2017 14: 16 New
      +1
      It seems to me that the author is right, and above all, that you cannot remain indifferent and stand aside. just did not say anything, two, etc. .... and now no one asks us, a lot of honor. decided the school curriculum like this, and like that. take an interest in your child’s (well, or if age permits) grandson, there is a nephew with some details of the Second World War, such as Pavlov’s house, or others that are not so ambitious against the backdrop of the Stalingad or Kursk battle ... I think many things will surprise you. and hopefully outrage
    7. free
      free 28 December 2017 16: 21 New
      +3
      Quote: 210ox
      You are arguing against the government, for which most voters will vote in a few months .. Think about whether to try to protect our dead soldiers, our grandfathers and great-grandfathers ... once we betrayed them ourselves .... Voting for this ... You You see how the representatives of the current government stood up for the kinship that didn’t remember ... And what do you want the prosecutor’s office to start biting the hand of the giver?

      It’s worth it, even like that! The truth is most important. Thanks to the author, there is still gunpowder in the powder flasks.
    8. Megatron
      Megatron 28 December 2017 18: 14 New
      +5
      The mustachioed press prostitute gave an explicit instruction to “stop the persecution,” because the “helmsman” is right now with the unscrupulous vass-vass to build a second stream.
    9. alex86
      alex86 2 January 2018 11: 26 New
      0
      Explain where is the rehabilitation of Nazism?
      1. Svateev
        8 January 2018 20: 53 New
        0
        Quote: alex86
        where is the rehabilitation of Nazism?

        Help you find? Themselves in any way?
        And why did you cover up some words? In the internet, anyway, the full text is laid out.
        Well,. let's take it in order:
        1. The project is "dedicated to the soldiers. Who died during the Second World War", but our boy is looking for the stories of only "German soldiers". He is not looking for our soldiers. I know, I know, the stories of our soldiers were searched by German schoolchildren. It seems to be balanced. But this is if you forget who started the war. If you forget that the German soldiers are occupiers, and ours defended themselves. It is to balance the invaders and defenders and this "project over the graves" is called upon
        2. “George went to the front with the rank of corporal and fought” - this is how we speak of our defenders of the fatherland. And that Georg went to take over our country, to kill our people. He knew where he went and why. and to speak of him with such words is justification for it.
        3. "in the so-called" Stalingrad boiler "- that is, our boy has a negative attitude towards the encirclement of invaders in the" Stalingrad boiler "by our troops
        4. 250 thousand of "surrounded" Germans, our boy compares with 6 thousand of "returning from the war", which causes the idea that 250 thousand died in our captivity - 6 thousand = 244 thousand prisoners. This is a direct lie. Because less than 100tys of already exhausted “walking corpses” surrendered, the rest resisted and killed ours to the last opportunity and were destroyed by us in battles. Including until recently, the surrounded George, whom our boy is so sad about, resisted and killed.
        5. "Georg died from the difficult conditions of captivity" - a direct accusation to the Soviet Union. And a direct lie. The German command forced its subordinates to resist until not only the rank-and-file composition, but also the commander of the 6 Army Paulus simply lost all combat readiness from starvation. Look at the documentary footage of the prisoners immediately after the capture - these are walking corpses. And their condition is not “bad conditions of captivity,” but the stupid obstinacy of their command, bestial attitude not only to us whom they were planning to capture, but also to their own soldiers. Any literate person knows that a severely emaciated person is not always able to be saved even when they begin to feed normally. And here - fierce February and this "higher race" in the stupid autumn overcoats that the German command supplied them with. We are to blame. that they didn’t take off their short fur coats, quilted jackets and felt boots from their soldiers and didn’t put the invaders on them ?!
        Well. and more ...
        The figure "6tys returning" is a separate topic for verification. Who and how calculated it is a big question. It is very small. I now firmly know that of those prisoners. who restored my grandmother's farm, NOT A DIED DIED IN A CAPTURE. In the 90's, our authorities brought some Germans to the farm who were interested in where the dead prisoners were buried in the farm. They did not believe for a long time. that not one died, that there is not a single German burial place. There are many graves of our people and soldiers who died from the German bombing and who died in hospitals on the farm. And German - not a single one.
        Then read the "opus" of our boy yourself, there are still excuses for Nazism.
  2. Nonna
    Nonna 27 December 2017 06: 09 New
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    Well, forum users, are we writing an electronic appeal to the President? Or are we trembling creatures? Ask each man himself and answer whether we are worthy of the memory of our grandfathers and great-grandfathers who defended their homeland in the war.
    1. Sling cutter
      Sling cutter 27 December 2017 06: 18 New
      14
      I subscribe !!! soldier
      1. passerby5
        passerby5 28 December 2017 14: 35 New
        +1
        well, just a little shout
    2. 210ox
      210ox 27 December 2017 06: 19 New
      17
      Of course we will write ... Although the result is known. But the conscience will be clean.
      Quote: Nonna
      Well, forum users, are we writing an electronic appeal to the President? Or are we trembling creatures? Ask each man himself and answer whether we are worthy of the memory of our grandfathers and great-grandfathers who defended their homeland in the war.
      1. jolly deckhand
        jolly deckhand 27 December 2017 07: 06 New
        16
        Who are you going to write to? The head of the fish?
        1. Sling cutter
          Sling cutter 27 December 2017 07: 11 New
          +8
          Quote: jolly deckhand
          Who are you going to write to? The head of the fish?

          Well said !!!
          I think the best open letter)
      2. free
        free 28 December 2017 16: 25 New
        +5
        Quote: 210ox
        Of course we will write ... Although the result is known. But the conscience will be clean.
        Quote: Nonna
        Well, forum users, are we writing an electronic appeal to the President? Or are we trembling creatures? Ask each man himself and answer whether we are worthy of the memory of our grandfathers and great-grandfathers who defended their homeland in the war.

        But we will see what they will answer Officer Svateev, although it is clear.
    3. vasya.pupkin
      vasya.pupkin 27 December 2017 13: 35 New
      +6
      Quote: Nonna
      Well, forum users, are we writing an electronic appeal to the President? Or are we trembling creatures? Ask each man himself and answer whether we are worthy of the memory of our grandfathers and great-grandfathers who defended their homeland in the war.

      I agree by 200%, but unfortunately we are in the Dnieper in a slightly better position than "trembling creatures." Due to martial law, all political life is frozen and only one degeneral major is promoted. In the basements of the GB are a bunch of people / by the way, 150 only with passports of the Russian Federation /.
      "Silence of the Lambs". MURDER !!!
      1. Petr1968
        Petr1968 27 December 2017 16: 20 New
        +2
        Quote: vasya.pupkin
        Due to martial law, all political life is frozen and only one degeneral major is promoted

        But he defeated the Bendero-fascists and they are not there, while the fascists openly walk around the territory of Ukraine, Bendera other plague !!! You should be happy, just you proved that you honor the memory of your ancestors! We must continue to fight the brown plague, you are on the first line now, behind Moscow !!!
        1. vasya.pupkin
          vasya.pupkin 28 December 2017 13: 49 New
          +3
          Pete 68: “But he won ...” Who are you talking about? Please clarify. Just do not need the "propaganda poster" -you are not at the party meeting and not even a political instructor at the front, express yourself in the usual "couch".
    4. Petr1968
      Petr1968 27 December 2017 16: 18 New
      +6
      Quote: Nonna
      Ask each man himself and answer whether we are worthy of the memory of our grandfathers and great-grandfathers who defended their homeland in the war.

      I reviewed the boy’s speech ... didn’t notice there that he was against honoring the memory of our grandfather, or he says that it was necessary for the SS to kill all of us .. The text was not written correctly, but it’s not about the memory of our grandfathers .. Sorry, I'm not going to fall into insanity, minus the signatories. So you can go far ..
      1. Svateev
        27 December 2017 17: 19 New
        +6
        Quote: Petr1968
        did not notice there that ... he says that it was necessary for the SS to kill us all.

        But he didn’t say that, yes ... And is it okay for you to cry for the "innocently killed" invaders?
        1. Dart2027
          Dart2027 27 December 2017 19: 39 New
          +4
          Quote: Svateev
          And cry for the "innocently killed" invaders

          In fact, that phrase can be interpreted as we are all people, basically good by nature, but the evil ones were able to come to power and started a war. If anything, then Stalin spoke in the same spirit that Hitler was one thing, and the German people was another.
          1. yashacat
            yashacat 29 December 2017 05: 12 New
            +1
            Sound comment!
          2. Svateev
            30 December 2017 10: 51 New
            0
            Quote: Dart2027
            Actually, that phrase can be interpreted,

            Why Stalin's phrase can not be interpreted as an excuse for Nazism? Because there is no excuse. But the phrase Kolenka cannot be interpreted otherwise than the justification of Nazism.
            1. Dart2027
              Dart2027 30 December 2017 12: 36 New
              +1
              Quote: Svateev
              But the phrase Kolenka cannot be interpreted otherwise than the justification of Nazism.

              Where does it say about the justification of Nazism?
        2. Petr1968
          Petr1968 28 December 2017 15: 16 New
          +2
          Quote: Svateev
          Is crying for the “innocently killed” invaders normal for you?

          By your logic, it is necessary to exterminate the floor of the world. No, but how ?? Forgive ??? And the deputies, who are EVERYONE at Mercier and Audi are just enemies of the people, since not only are there no laws on the Western bikot, but also on their cars ... They should be shot at all. By the way, “17 Moments of Spring” is generally propaganda of fascism !!! But this logic is 1% of the population ... sorry, but we neglect it and live on. The Germans are great guys, I was at the Oktoberfest, and we can’t compare the holiday with our cattle. Much more cultured and educated there. And to you a final battle on the couch, I hope to defeat everyone !!)))))
          1. Svateev
            30 December 2017 10: 54 New
            0
            Quote: Petr1968
            By your logic, it is necessary to exterminate the floor of the world. No, but how ??

            This is according to your logic, because you said that. You seem to have no other thoughts - just “exterminate” .. and be sure to half the world ..
            Quote: Petr1968
            The Germans are great guys

            And how do these great guys endure someone like you, whose brain destroy half the world? Or do these “great guys” have the same thoughts?
        3. alex86
          alex86 2 January 2018 13: 46 New
          0
          "the graves of innocently dead people, among whom many wanted to live peacefully and did not want to fight" - a direct quote. Where to cry Where is the "innocent killed"?
          You want to say that among the Germans who fought in WWII, everyone wanted to fight? Those who were captured were already punished by the fact of captivity and placement in camps, they were not sentenced to death (unlike many defendants of the Nuremberg trials). Their guilt is great, but either should be considered specifically for each (and about 14 such were repatriated), or (as was actually the case) they, like prisoners of war, were repatriated to Germany. Therefore, the "innocent dead" - the wording is correct both formally (there was no death sentence) and universal humanity - no one was born for an untimely death. Of course, there were those fooled by propaganda (such as how we are brainwashed by "fascist Ukraine"), but a normal average person never wants to fight.
          And you can read, maybe something - Tolstoy, Chekhov, Dostoevsky, at worst (although for such an inflamed brain Dostoevsky may be a provocation for exacerbation), Dickens ("Posthumous Notes of the Pickwick Club"), Hasek "The Adventures of the Good Soldier Schweik" - in short, something general humanistic. And also walks in the fresh air, light physical exercises, a contrast shower. Go to the orphanage - help with something. Have something creative.
          1. badens1111
            badens1111 2 January 2018 13: 51 New
            +1
            Quote: alex86
            Therefore, the "innocent dead" - the wording is correct both formally (there was no death sentence) and universal humanity - no one was born for an untimely death. Of course, there were those fooled by propaganda (such as how we are brainwashed by "fascist Ukraine"), but a normal average person never wants to fight.

            Trying to justify Hitler’s killers?
            I somehow believe my baht more, who, along with his mother and his elder brother, barely survived, during the occupation, Hitler’s ghouls weren’t shot twice during the occupation.
          2. Svateev
            8 January 2018 21: 05 New
            0
            Quote: alex86
            You want to say that among the Germans who fought in WWII, everyone wanted to fight?

            This is the favorite excuse of any invader, they all say, "I didn’t want to, I just obeyed the order." therefore the verdict of the Nuremberg Tribunal is specifically noted. that the execution of the order is not an excuse.
            Those who really didn’t want to fight went over to our side. And there were such. And such as Georg, whom our boy Kolya justifies, did not go over to our side. They are ideological enemies.
      2. ando_bor
        ando_bor 27 December 2017 19: 38 New
        +1
        Quote: Petr1968
        Sorry, I'm not going to fall into insanity, minus the signatories.

        The enemies unambiguously unleash the topic, it is clearly read, according to their technologies - they hit the bastions on purpose that we ourselves erected, the Olympics is an analogy.
  3. Jingibi
    Jingibi 27 December 2017 06: 27 New
    15
    My great-grandfather took part in the battles for the liberation of China from the Japanese invaders. I will join. Although the Great Patriotic War ended on May 8–9 in Berlin, it ended the Second World War with a victorious strike in the Far East.
  4. parusnik
    parusnik 27 December 2017 07: 49 New
    13
    The king does not like red color and all its shades, it does not write the truth on banners ...
    For some reason, you were not embarrassed that this project was dedicated not to Victory Day, not to the anniversary of the defeat of Nazi Germany, but to the 75th anniversary of the Nazi attack on Germany. You considered the project a "timely and useful initiative."
    ... It’s worth writing .. It was necessary to do this earlier, when for the first time on May 9 the Lenin’s mausoleum was draped, to which the banners of Nazi Germany flew ..
  5. ADmA_RUS
    ADmA_RUS 27 December 2017 08: 17 New
    +3
    There is still a gene. prosecutor's office. What are you climbing through your head?
  6. Altona
    Altona 27 December 2017 08: 42 New
    15
    In principle, the author of the appeal wrote everything himself and is writing some kind of appeal to the GDP. It’s not in vain that the GDP has dragged its mom in, that supposedly she was not offended by the Germans. This is a moral and ethical justification for the barbarism that is now being wrought with the memory of the people by all sorts of treacherous films, performances and other things.
  7. Moore
    Moore 27 December 2017 08: 59 New
    16
    Therefore, I sent the following appeal to the electronic reception office of the President of the Russian Federation:

    The guys from the Administration will kindly write that it is not in their area of ​​competence to deal with the signs of Nazism.
    I would really try a complaint about the Yamalo-Nenets Autonomous Okrug to the Prosecutor General.
    The answers are generally predictable, but there will be noise around the case. But those creatures do not like noise.
  8. Captain Nemo
    Captain Nemo 27 December 2017 09: 15 New
    11
    "I asked to check the performances of SCHOOLCHILDREN for violation of the law." To me personally, this phrase is enough to make up my mind about the personality of the author. As I understand it, there are few explanations for the fact that the boy was dissected by the text of the speech, and he also made a mess of excitement. We need SCHOOLCHILDREN to summarize the "heavy" article of the Criminal Code.
    1. Svateev
      27 December 2017 17: 24 New
      +7
      Quote: Captain Nemo
      We need SCHOOLCHILDREN to summarize the "heavy" article of the Criminal Code.

      ONE CHILD?
      We know ... More recently passed ... Girls of the same age as N. Desyatnichenko in Kiev prepared "Molotov cocktails" for attacks on the police. Forgot already ?!
      Moreover, if he is really a minor student, then he can hardly be judged by that article. But those who prepared a speech for him, who drove him through German burials to arouse pity for the invaders, you can judge those.
      1. Captain Nemo
        Captain Nemo 27 December 2017 23: 47 New
        +2
        And with what specifically in the words of the student do you disagree?
    2. long in stock.
      long in stock. 27 December 2017 17: 43 New
      +8
      I’ll repeat my comment on this matter, such SCHOOLCHILDREN were derailing at that time. And now they’re children ... honestly, pah. You are unlikely to be able to raise a man from your son.
      1. passerby5
        passerby5 28 December 2017 14: 41 New
        0
        support
      2. Captain Nemo
        Captain Nemo 16 January 2018 13: 16 New
        0
        I understand correctly that you are teaching your children to let the trains downhill? And do you think this is a sign of masculinity?
    3. zoolu350
      zoolu350 28 December 2017 07: 29 New
      +2
      Yes, even if under the execution and that will not be enough. Since there was no prevention, now only surgery will help. And the kid over the years is clearly not a first grader, you need to think what you read.
    4. passerby5
      passerby5 28 December 2017 14: 40 New
      0
      what have schoolchildren to do with it. we are talking about the educational system, who writes school programs, who brings them to students, in what form ...
      1. Petr1968
        Petr1968 28 December 2017 15: 19 New
        0
        Quote: passerby5
        what have schoolchildren to do with it. we are talking about the educational system, who writes school programs, who brings them to students, in what form ...

        I watched the polls, people have no requests for your problems, people are interested in other things. In general, 86% are satisfied with our power. Do not like it, no one holds.
    5. verner1967
      verner1967 1 January 2018 20: 05 New
      +1
      Quote: Captain Nemo
      We need SCHOOLCHILDREN to summarize the "heavy" article of the Criminal Code.

      it’s a terrible legacy of Stalinism, and then they still say there was no repression, ha ha.
      1. Svateev
        8 January 2018 21: 12 New
        0
        Quote: verner1967
        this is a heavy legacy of Stalinism,

        Responsibility for their actions is the achievement of Soviet education. responsibility is the basis of heroism. Only thanks to this responsibility we survived and won.
        Therefore, modern people are not worthless and are trying to denigrate the responsibility of man to his country. in front of the memory of their ancestors.
        1. verner1967
          verner1967 8 January 2018 21: 26 New
          +1
          Quote: Svateev
          Responsibility for their actions

          responsibility must be consistent with the act, and not "10 years for a joke"
          1. Svateev
            13 January 2018 19: 30 New
            0
            Quote: verner1967
            "10 years for a joke"

            Do you have at least one fact of such a sentence? Or, as always: "one grandmother said"?
            1. verner1967
              verner1967 13 January 2018 23: 17 New
              +1
              Quote: Svateev
              Do you have at least one fact of such a sentence?

              Haha, are you really so naive? Already the followers knew how to inflate things to heaven, with conspiracies and work for Zimbabwean-Guatemalan intelligence
  9. Bulrumeb
    Bulrumeb 27 December 2017 09: 28 New
    +9
    The Yamalo-Nenets Prosecutor’s Office avoided an answer on the merits, which it itself indicated in plain text.
    If we evaluate it in the army, such behavior of the prosecutor's office of the YNAO is an escape from the battlefield. Shameful escape.

    And the prosecutor’s office for a long time can only yelp about how she stands guard over the rule of law, but to whine that they don’t have enough money to live on. The prosecutors oh, they don’t like to take responsibility, they’re used to the fact that others are raking shit for them.
    1. neri73-r
      neri73-r 27 December 2017 15: 48 New
      +1
      Quote: Bulrumeb
      The Yamalo-Nenets Prosecutor’s Office avoided an answer on the merits, which it itself indicated in plain text.
      If we evaluate it in the army, such behavior of the prosecutor's office of the YNAO is an escape from the battlefield. Shameful escape.

      And the prosecutor’s office for a long time can only yelp about how she stands guard over the rule of law, but to whine that they don’t have enough money to live on. The prosecutors oh, they don’t like to take responsibility, they’re used to the fact that others are raking shit for them.

      So this duty (to rake shit) was transferred to the investigative committee, here they (Maksimenko, Lamonov, Nikandrov, Markin, etc.) work, they row !!! wassat
  10. andrej-shironov
    andrej-shironov 27 December 2017 09: 44 New
    10
    The author is well done! Where and what should I sign? Maybe some other help is needed?
    1. andrej-shironov
      andrej-shironov 27 December 2017 09: 57 New
      +8
      I wrote to the Presidential Administration.
  11. SPLV
    SPLV 27 December 2017 09: 50 New
    10
    15 comments after the article. And after any note about aircraft carriers or new assault rifles - hundreds. A shame. Morality is of less interest than theorizing about ephemeral things. The plastic world won.
  12. viktorch
    viktorch 27 December 2017 10: 14 New
    +5
    it is not schoolchildren who should be checked, but those who wrote this speech to them; Who was there with them: teachers? representatives of the fund? representatives of the authorities ?
    1. moskowit
      moskowit 27 December 2017 14: 41 New
      +7
      It is necessary to look at the formal actions of the prosecutor's office from a different angle. These kids represent what social group? Their parents are by no means drillers and welders ... Isn't this the inaction of the “guardians of the law”? It would not be from the environment of the "owners" of new life, or as they now love to tryndet from this same "elite" hawed ....
      1. long in stock.
        long in stock. 27 December 2017 17: 45 New
        +7
        the prosecutor’s office cannot look from a different angle. they are also among the masters of life ..
    2. Petr1968
      Petr1968 27 December 2017 16: 54 New
      0
      Quote: viktorch
      it is not schoolchildren who should be checked, but those who wrote this speech to them; Who was there with them: teachers? representatives of the fund? representatives of the authorities ?

      Already installed, it is the State Department !!! They want to destroy us !!!
      1. Svateev
        30 December 2017 14: 12 New
        0
        Quote: Petr1968
        Already installed, it is the State Department !!!

        Not the State Department, the loser troll, but the "German side" of the project "reconciliation over the graves":
        "the test showed absolutely fantastic things - the Germans themselves wrote the report to Kolya and the rest of the Russian schoolchildren, neither the mayor, the lyceum director, nor the history teacher, nor the education department knew its contents, but the German teacher, who turned this matter over, was to blame." - http://katyusha.org/view?id=9090
        I don’t believe that one teacher turned the whole thing. But the fact that at least the theses of the report were written by the Germans themselves is evident from the terminology. We look:
        "the soldier died from the difficult conditions of captivity ... the story of Georg touched me ... I saw the graves of innocent victims ... they experienced incredible difficulties during the war ..."
    3. Svateev
      27 December 2017 17: 30 New
      0
      Quote: viktorch
      it’s necessary to check not the schoolchildren but those who wrote this speech to them,

      initiate a full-scale investigation of this incident, the establishment of all the organizers and performers of this rehabilitation, investigation and evaluation of the activities of the Ebert Foundation and other involved structures in Russia.
  13. Dormidont
    Dormidont 27 December 2017 10: 15 New
    +3
    Because Russophobia, like its derivatives, is not prosecuted
  14. Cxnumx
    Cxnumx 27 December 2017 10: 32 New
    0
    Svateev V.A., write first to the General, and even if you have already sent a letter to Putin's administration, write anyway.
    1. Petr1968
      Petr1968 27 December 2017 16: 55 New
      +3
      Quote: K0
      Svateev V.A., write first to the General, and even if you have already sent a letter to Putin's administration, write anyway.

      And if Putin does not help ... although he helps all orphans .. That God must pray for our souls !!!
  15. orphan 63
    orphan 63 27 December 2017 11: 33 New
    +4
    Four employees of the administration of the city of Novy Urengoy received disciplinary sanctions after an audit related to a resonant performance by local gymnasium students and, in particular, Nikolai Desyatnichenko in the German Bundestag. This became known to RIA Novosti.
    “Of the deputy heads of administration (Novy Urengoy), a reprimand was announced to the deputy who oversees social policy, a warning to the deputy head of domestic policy. Also, disciplinary sanctions to the head and deputy head of the information and analytical department,” the agency’s interlocutor said. In addition, the director of the gymnasium where the student is studying, as well as the deputy director for educational work, received reprimands.
    During the speech, Nikolai spoke about a German soldier who participated in the Battle of Stalingrad. Having studied the life path of a fighter from open sources, the student told how he got to the prisoner of war camp and did not return from there: he died due to the difficult conditions of captivity. The boy noted that many Germans wanted to "live peacefully and did not want to fight."
    The performance of the schoolboy caused a wide public outcry in Russia.
    At the same time, Russian presidential spokesman Dmitry Peskov, commenting on the boy’s speech, said the Kremlin believes the boy’s accusations of Nazi propaganda were false.
    http://ren.tv/novosti/2017-12-27/chetyre-chinovni
    ka-iz-novogo-urengoya-nakazany-iz-za-rezonansnoy-
    rechi-shkolnika
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  16. Anyone
    Anyone 27 December 2017 12: 08 New
    +6
    I do not condone the teachers who raised the defeatists, they must be punished. And not a reprimand, but at least a disqualification.

    After such a pearl, it seems to me that the sanity of the author of the article is an open question. In other words, the author suggests introducing (thank you so far not criminal!) The responsibility of teachers for the misconduct of students.
    1. Spez
      Spez 27 December 2017 16: 40 New
      +5
      Quote: Anyone
      In other words, the author suggests introducing (thank you so far not criminal!) The responsibility of teachers for the misconduct of students.

      It is logical
    2. Svateev
      27 December 2017 17: 46 New
      +5
      Quote: Anyone
      the author suggests introducing (thank you so far not criminal!) the responsibility of teachers for the misconduct of students.

      Firstly, it was the prosecutor's office that redirected my appeal to the Department of EDUCATION to mean teachers as the culprits. So the prosecutor’s office agrees with us - the teachers are to blame for such an upbringing: they drove through German graves, they introduced the fate of the “unfortunate” invaders, and they apparently wrote the text of the speech. So I propose to punish teachers not for the “misconduct of students”, but for the acts of the teachers themselves.
      Secondly, a teacher who failed to raise is really a teacher? We all agree that, for example, a surgeon who does not know how to cut, must be dismissed. And a teacher who does not know how to raise a patriot of his country, should continue to receive a salary from this country? Why?
      1. Captain Nemo
        Captain Nemo 27 December 2017 23: 45 New
        +2
        Does a patriot of a foreign country fight? Maybe look into the explanatory dictionary? And teachers to shoot. Definitely! * voice of Zhirinovsky *
        1. Curious
          Curious 27 December 2017 23: 57 New
          +1
          And who determined that the teacher did not raise? Who are the judges? Has public opinion decided? Blame is determined only by the court, not by voting on the Internet.
      2. Anyone
        Anyone 28 December 2017 00: 40 New
        +3
        Let's only without hypocrisy, okay? I don’t recall that you advocated for the responsibility of the teachers of all those criminals with whom our prisons are full? Why such a selective approach to the issue? Start with the responsibility of teachers for their students who become killers, rapists, thieves, etc.
        Z.Y. At this pace, the position of “history teacher” and “teacher of life safety” will soon become dangerous))
        1. Svateev
          30 December 2017 13: 42 New
          0
          Quote: Anyone
          Start with

          I understand, I understand ... You agree to start with anyone, but not with the one who justifies the invaders. Understand...
          Quote: Anyone
          Z.Y. At this pace, the position of “history teacher” and “teacher of life safety” will soon become dangerous))

          Wow, what a terrible "danger" - I proposed disqualification instead of reprimand. It’s such a “danger” for the idiot, who had abused the glory of his ancestors, just deadly ...
          1. Anyone
            Anyone 30 December 2017 14: 06 New
            +1
            Quote: Svateev
            I understand, I understand ... You agree to start with anyone, but not with the one who justifies the invaders. Understand...

            Do not understand. For mired in hypocrisy. You need to start not with "someone." You either introduce teachers responsibility or not. And for what exactly, it does not matter: for the rehabilitation of Nazism, car theft, murder etc. Is the thought clear?
            1. Svateev
              13 January 2018 19: 38 New
              0
              Quote: Anyone
              for what exactly, it does not matter: for the rehabilitation of Nazism, car theft, murder etc.

              Crossing the roadway in the wrong place still forgot to add ... And equate to the murder and rehabilitation of Nazism. Then it will be cool: "Punish teachers for sho ?!"
      3. Captain Nemo
        Captain Nemo 28 December 2017 09: 06 New
        +1
        What school subject do patriots bring up? “Physical education”? Or "labor"? I see directly, a child comes from school, and in the diary there is a note: this week was not patriotic enough. Parents are asked to come to the director.

        We have already been through
        1. Petr1968
          Petr1968 29 December 2017 14: 02 New
          0
          Quote: Captain Nemo
          We have already been through

          Looks like they did not learn a lesson.
        2. long in stock.
          long in stock. 29 December 2017 16: 13 New
          +1
          who are we for example? judging by your post, you didn’t study at school and didn’t raise children .. patriotism is not given at physical education classes, there is literature and history for this. but you couldn’t even think ...
        3. Svateev
          30 December 2017 11: 04 New
          0
          Quote: Captain Nemo
          What school subject do patriots bring up? “Physical education”? Or "labor"?

          Have you been taught other subjects? American school graduated, right?
          In Russia, we still learn history, social studies, literature ... And a good physical education teacher also encourages us by saying: "Try, maybe you can go to international competitions, you will defend the honor of the country!"
          Quote: Captain Nemo
          We have already been through

          Where did you go? Do not tell my slippers ...
  17. BAI
    BAI 27 December 2017 16: 40 New
    +3
    And from the very beginning I said that the matter will be hushed up. No one will quarrel with Germany. Especially now.
    1. Petr1968
      Petr1968 27 December 2017 16: 57 New
      +2
      Quote: BAI
      And from the very beginning I said that the matter will be hushed up. No one will quarrel with Germany. Especially now.

      How will it not be? And what does it mean now ?? !! Yes, we are not afraid of America, but Germany is all the more so !!! Look what army we have, why should we be afraid ???
      1. Greenwood
        Greenwood 27 December 2017 18: 10 New
        +5
        Quote: Petr1968
        why should we be afraid ???
        Gazprom’s business projects may suffer, and this is unacceptable, because it hits the pocket of Putin’s faithful friend and ally Miller.
        1. Petr1968
          Petr1968 29 December 2017 14: 00 New
          0
          Quote: Greenwood
          Gazprom’s business projects may suffer, and this is unacceptable, because it hits the pocket of Putin’s faithful friend and ally Miller.

          Do you imagine Miller living in odnushka in Biryulyovo? Do not worry about him, he has great-great-great-great-grandchildren a hedgehog.
      2. Dart2027
        Dart2027 27 December 2017 19: 42 New
        0
        Quote: Petr1968
        Yes, we are not afraid of America, but Germany is all the more so !!! Look what army we have, why should we be afraid ???

        So take an assault rifle and storm the Reichstag? Who forbids you?
        1. Petr1968
          Petr1968 28 December 2017 10: 49 New
          +1
          Quote: Dart2027
          So take an assault rifle and storm the Reichstag? Who forbids you?

          And I am assaulting, but in my place. I explain to people that we must prepare for war, hate the West, hold on to our President, destroy the opposition and independent media. We must be like a spring, ready at any moment to strike at the enemy .. which is already at the borders !!!
          1. Dart2027
            Dart2027 28 December 2017 16: 54 New
            +1
            Quote: Petr1968
            I explain to people that we need to prepare for war, to hate the west

            Preparing for war and getting into trouble is not the same thing. In politics there are no constant enemies and friends, there are only permanent interests. Russia's interest is to make the West as monolithic as possible.
            1. Petr1968
              Petr1968 29 December 2017 13: 58 New
              0
              Quote: Dart2027
              Russia's interest is to make the West as monolithic as possible.

              And I thought that we would live richer ... It’s good that you are not a politician.
              1. Dart2027
                Dart2027 29 December 2017 14: 30 New
                +1
                Quote: Petr1968
                And I thought that we would live richer ...

                There is such a boring thing as a story. And if you read this story, it turns out that everything in the life of the state is interconnected. We do not live in a vacuum and must interact with the world around us, and if this is neglected, it will be bad. It’s good that you are not a politician.
          2. Svateev
            30 December 2017 11: 12 New
            +1
            Quote: Petr1968
            we must prepare for war, hate the West, hold on to our President, destroy the opposition and independent media.

            Ohhh, trolling wiser ... But they went too far, dear ... None of the Russian patriots calls for "to destroy the opposition and independent media." You want us to think so. A true patriot needs the views of the opposition and the view of independent media.
            But if the media justifies the occupiers, then this is not our oppositional media, but the occupational one. And the conversation with the occupier is short - the Stalingrad cauldron, captured and ... how lucky for him, the "innocent".
  18. Greenwood
    Greenwood 27 December 2017 18: 08 New
    +4
    The author, well, what are the appeals to the president? What are the checks of schoolchildren? What is the prosecutor?
    The trip of these schoolchildren is Gazprom’s action coordinated with the German side, which promotes its business projects in Europe, in particular in Germany. Naturally, it was necessary to correctly lick the dear "German partners" to confirm our commitment to European unity. lol When it comes to business and big grandmothers, all your truth about the war, fought grandfathers, Nazi executioners, nobody needs. Our valiant guarantor, no matter how patriotic populist speeches may be used at press conferences, represents first of all the interests of big business (and not the working people at all), and your patriotic moans harm business interests. So stop it, stop it! Do not stop serious uncles from cutting loot.
    1. Petr1968
      Petr1968 28 December 2017 11: 29 New
      +1
      Quote: Greenwood
      Naturally, it was necessary to correctly lick the dear "German partners" to confirm our commitment to European unity.

      Stop talking nonsense. Read carefully what the event was. What did the other children say, German? Conspiracy theories went that both the resident and the entire government and big business sold to Germany, which itself was the size of the Moscow region. REN TV reviewed?
  19. midshipman
    midshipman 27 December 2017 19: 13 New
    +8
    Viktor Alekseevich, I fully support you. I want to add that we boys, residents of Leningrad, had hatred for the captured fascists. It was the year 1946. Convoy boys drove us away from these prisoners, since our task was to launch a stone at these monsters. And I studied at the 177 Leningrad school on Ispolkomovskaya St. These fascists built a garage opposite the school. Then they put up a fence so that our stones would not fly aiming for the chosen fascist. This is how we lived in post-war Leningrad.
    How can I forgive these killers. Today, December 27th marks the 76th anniversary of the death of my father on the Leningrad Front. Major, buried in a separate grave at the Theological Cemetery. He created heavy artillery to protect the city. I have the honor.
    1. Petr1968
      Petr1968 28 December 2017 11: 31 New
      +1
      Quote: midshipman
      How can I forgive these killers

      And what did you do to avenge your grandfather? The car, I hope, even domestic ?? Prepare an adequate answer to them?
  20. ando_bor
    ando_bor 27 December 2017 19: 18 New
    +1
    Stalin is definitely to blame for everything - he did not outweigh all the fascists as war criminals, and so they had to die as innocent prisoners of war.
  21. Lexus
    Lexus 27 December 2017 19: 44 New
    +6
    The story is not over.
  22. mager1
    mager1 27 December 2017 21: 10 New
    0
    Everything is generally correct. Only the word "fascist", I would replace it with "Nazi". And then the porridge is obtained.
  23. Grazm47
    Grazm47 27 December 2017 21: 18 New
    0
    More action - less words.
    Adequate and not indifferent people - there are always such, and will help.
  24. Captain Nemo
    Captain Nemo 27 December 2017 23: 52 New
    +4
    “During the speech, Nikolai spoke about the German soldier who participated in the Battle of Stalingrad. Having studied the fighter’s life through open sources, the student told how he got to the prisoner of war camp and didn’t return from there: he died due to the difficult conditions of captivity. The boy noted that many Germans wanted to "live peacefully and did not want to fight." "(c)

    I’m re-reading it and I don’t understand what’s criminal here? All mobilized in the armed forces of Nazi Germany wanted to fight or went voluntarily because of the idea to destroy the population of other countries? Where is the excuse of Nazism? Maybe not everyone told us and the German soldier belonged to parts of the Waffen SS?
    1. yashacat
      yashacat 29 December 2017 05: 43 New
      +2
      I completely agree. I hate Nazism in any manifestation, but I don’t see anything rehabilitating Nazism in Colin's statement. Rather, there’s a condemnation of it. It’s a little clumsy, but the main meaning of Kolya’s phrase is that the ideology of fascism is harmful not only to opponents, but also to its people countries. It is a pity that many did not understand this.
      1. Petr1968
        Petr1968 29 December 2017 13: 30 New
        +1
        Quote: yashacat
        I completely agree. I hate Nazism in any manifestation, but I don’t see anything rehabilitating Nazism in Colin's statement. Rather, there’s a condemnation of it. It’s a little clumsy, but the main meaning of Kolya’s phrase is that the ideology of fascism is harmful not only to opponents, but also to its people countries. It is a pity that many did not understand this.

        He should have shouted that he hated them all, fascists who were not finished, that we were ready to repeat, if only they turned up. I had to sing the anthem of Russia and say "For Putin, for Stalin !!" .Here then he would be the right boy ... albeit a moron.
        1. Svateev
          30 December 2017 11: 21 New
          0
          Quote: Petr1968
          he would be the right boy ... albeit a moron.

          To sing the anthem of Russia - is it "de bi biism"? That's it...
          But I think that "de.bi.li.zm" is to spare the enemies of his great-grandfather, as Kolenka of the Bundestag did.
          1. Svateev
            30 December 2017 11: 26 New
            0
            Admins, somehow strange your insult filters work: in the opponent’s comment the word “moron” is present, and when I criticize him in my comment, the filter throws it out, I had to discharge it with dots. Do you have filters written to support the Germans, or what?
            Oh. that’s what: you can write a “moron”, and “debilism” - no way ...
      2. Svateev
        30 December 2017 11: 15 New
        0
        Quote: yashacat
        It is a pity that many did not understand this.

        They did not understand because Kolenka did not say that. He has only tears for the "innocent" Germans.
    2. Svateev
      30 December 2017 13: 32 New
      0
      Quote: Captain Nemo
      All mobilized in the armed forces of Nazi Germany wanted to fight or went voluntarily?

      They brought an old song: "They are not to blame, they obeyed the order"?
      “They” came to us to kill my grandfathers. One was killed in October 1941, nearly killed by my grandmother and my mother. My second grandfather went through a war. And "they" are not to blame, do you need to feel sorry for them ?!
      NO ONE IS FORGOTTEN, NOTHING IS FORGOTTEN!
      1. Petr1968
        Petr1968 11 January 2018 14: 32 New
        0
        Quote: Svateev
        NO ONE IS FORGOTTEN, NOTHING IS FORGOTTEN!

        But Christians do not think so. You must be able to forgive. You also feel bad about the Tatars ... oh they drank our blood .. with the Mongols drank .. !!!
        1. Svateev
          13 January 2018 19: 43 New
          0
          Quote: Petr1968
          But Christians do not think so. You must be able to forgive.

          That is why every usurper puts Christianity at his service. A very suitable religion to keep slaves in check.
      2. Captain Nemo
        Captain Nemo 16 January 2018 13: 12 New
        0
        Buy a gun and go to avenge. Only in person.
  25. passerby5
    passerby5 28 December 2017 14: 30 New
    0
    your1970,
    here you yourself are slightly contradicting yourself ... here you were thrust into the party, PROSPECTS. Yes, in fact, the party (well, understandable, the communist) is everywhere a green light. and they had to fulfill the PLAN !!!! on reception. Ie to do indicators. Ie lie. who has more indicators (lied) -tot on the "horse" (in sight). you look above went to do indicators (to lie) and so on, then continue the logical chain yourself. and what kind of bosses there were .... (well then) it could be kindred and cramped, but slippery types, careerists (in the bad sense of the word) were still enough. And if the graduate school graduated - that's it !!!! jack of all trades !!! He was an agronomist, in the past !!! - Head of the Department of Health (I really know such a case). in general, practically everything remained so. rather worsened. relatives climbed)))
  26. Sotskiy
    Sotskiy 28 December 2017 15: 09 New
    +3
    What is the prosecutor? What Kohl? What graves? Our President invites thieves to return to their homeland with the abolition of the prosecution thereof and, as a bonus, income tax. It’s already difficult to consider her own, since honest people are held by a herd of suckers, and thieves by “businessmen” respected by the authorities. World turned upside down. Who is the first “change shoes” to integrate into the current “reality”?
    The author-support and sympathy for trying to find justice in this god-offended land ....
    1. Petr1968
      Petr1968 29 December 2017 13: 33 New
      +1
      Quote: Sovetskiy

      The author-support and sympathy for trying to find justice in this god-offended land ....

      I do not like the land and the President - why not get out of here.
      1. Sotskiy
        Sotskiy 29 December 2017 17: 42 New
        +1
        Quote: Petr1968
        Quote: Sovetskiy

        The author-support and sympathy for trying to find justice in this god-offended land ....

        I do not like the land and the President - why not get out of here.

        Kleptocracy is incurable in the current system, and if you stop raking everything that is bad for yourself, you cannot with your “homies”, then you will have to bring it down soon.
      2. Svateev
        30 December 2017 11: 29 New
        0
        Quote: Petr1968
        get the hell out of here.

        Where is "from here"? Where do you write it yourself, dear?
  27. free
    free 28 December 2017 16: 32 New
    +3
    This Urengoy Judas is just a project of power, they are testing the ground. If it weren’t for the people’s anger, they would have muddied the monarchy soon, but they didn’t keep silence! But the people stood on their hind legs, the Judas rushed to defend it, and then the miracle doesn’t subside. suddenly found guilty. Only the now smart people went it is not so easy to carry out, but because the revolution is getting closer and congratulations to Judas, gentlemen and other hangers-on. The reckoning hour is close.
  28. Assyrian
    Assyrian 28 December 2017 23: 06 New
    +1
    1. Article on 5 s +++++. About honor and dignity.
    2. The prosecutor’s office or the Investigative Committee should have received written explanations from educators, the city administration, sponsors, Ebert Foundation in order to establish the authors of the words “not guilty killed” and “the so-called Stalingrad cauldron” and ask them already.
    3. Children are victims political provocation organizers (Ebert Foundation) and collaborators (teachers, school principals).
    4. It may be in the interest of the country not to make a fuss on this episode. But. Under pressure from public opinion, provocateurs will be given a hat.
    5. In the elections I will vote for Putin VV
    1. Petr1968
      Petr1968 29 December 2017 13: 31 New
      0
      Quote: Assyrian
      5. In the elections I will vote for Putin VV

      Who would doubt that. Liberast is the next troll here.
      1. Assyrian
        Assyrian 30 December 2017 00: 54 New
        +1
        Quote: Petr1968
        Liberast is the next troll here.

        I’ll ask you not to put it that way, it’s never been.
        Concerning trolling, a mistake. This is my belief and I do not hide it.
      2. Svateev
        30 December 2017 13: 17 New
        0
        The petr1968 troll accuses everyone of trolling! Well, let's collect the comments of this troll even from this thread alone:
        Quote: Petr1968
        Quote: Assyrian
        "5. In the elections I will vote for Putin V.V."
        Who would doubt that. Liberast is the next troll here.

        Here he is directly a "true communist", an opponent of Putin.
        Quote: Petr1968
        And I am assaulting, but in my place. I explain to people that we must prepare for war, hate the West, hold on to our President, destroy the opposition and independent media. We must be like a spring, ready at any moment to strike at the enemy .. which is already at the borders !!!

        There is already a “Urya-patriot”, a supporter of Putin.
        Quote: Petr1968
        Do you imagine Miller living in odnushka in Biryulyovo? Do not worry about him, he has great-great-great-great-grandchildren a hedgehog.

        Here again, a communist, an opponent of Putin's associates.
        Quote: Petr1968
        The Germans want war and ... my opinion ... need to be the first .... and so that they never come to their senses ...

        And then he urges us to "be the first to do something with the Germans to ..."
        Admins! "Petr1968" is not just a troll. This is a provocateur. His last post will at least be used by the German media in order to present the Russians as bloodthirsty aggressors in the continuation of this psychological attack:
        "... as the leading German media outlets unanimously declared, all the Russians who allowed themselves to be indignant at the" fiery "speech of Nikolai Desyatnichenko in the Bundestag to justify the" innocently tortured "German corporal in the" so-called Stalingrad Cauldron "is" fascists and shit. " we were all named in Spiegel, Zeit, Franfurter Rundshau. " - http://katyusha.org/view?id=8976
        1. Assyrian
          Assyrian 31 December 2017 12: 31 New
          +1
          Quote: Svateev
          Admins! "Petr1968" is not just a troll. This is a provocateur.

          I read his other comments and came to the conclusion that he is really a political provocateur. The current "Gapon".
  29. tank64rus
    tank64rus 30 December 2017 19: 40 New
    +1
    What kind of power is this and the prosecutor's office.
  30. tosha.chuhontzev
    tosha.chuhontzev 2 January 2018 02: 29 New
    +1


    The neoliberalism of the Putin regime in all its glory. No petitions will help. May March 18, 2018 be the verdict to Putin's neoliberalism in honor of the unforgettable memory of the multimillion-dollar victims of German Nazism and the fallen Soviet soldiers!
  31. pafegosoff
    pafegosoff 5 January 2018 08: 50 New
    0
    We all quarrel and fall apart worse than Ukraine. To the delight of the United States, London, Geyrop, the international oligarchy, all sorts of Kasparov, Kasyanov, Kudrin and other moral freaks and traitors.
    Putin, in order to save the country after the election (and the championship on the Socker), is obliged to introduce a dictatorship, reap bankers and oligarchs, and you and I. If only he does not want the fate of Gaddafi, Hussein, Sadat and other Salvador Allende ...
    1. pafegosoff
      pafegosoff 5 January 2018 09: 19 New
      +1
      I’ll add, well, there is Poltavchenko like that, it seems - the governor ... A crest from Baku. Yes, he does not care about this Petersburg and Petersburgers! Salvage! And power!
      So he wants a military burial place near Pulkovo under a rebuilder! Salvage, however! To hell with her with the Pulkovo Observatory, which was blinded by lights and survives. And the burial places of the defenders of Leningrad - under a bulldozer! Whether it’s the case - the Poles ass lick near Katyn!
      And = our crocodile tears for demolitions in Poland ...
      And so in each region - their kings - traitors.
      And you - urengoy, urenga. There, for your information, every second - Bandera. Back in the seventies, we called the Yamalo-Khokhlyat and Khokhlo-Mansi Autonomous Districts. Not for nothing they separated from the Tyumen region ... Look, soon they will separate from Russia. What is there in Yekaterinburg? Revival of the idea of ​​the Ural Republic! There was Rossel, became Roizman ... And around - Gref, Millers, Chubais ...