Azerbaijan and Russia manage to remove many differences over Gabala radar station

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Azerbaijan and Russia manage to remove many differences over Gabala radar stationDay.az. Azerbaijan and Russia managed to remove many of the disagreements on the Gabala radar station, and agreements on extending the lease of Russia by the radar station will soon be reached, said the head of the Federation Council of Russia, Valentina Matvienko, who is on an official visit to Azerbaijan.

“Several rounds of negotiations between the ministries of defense and foreign affairs of the two countries have already been held. A normal negotiation process is underway. Many disagreements have been resolved, there are still a few issues that need to be finalized and a mutually acceptable solution is found. Therefore, I believe that agreements will be reached,” said Matvienko on Monday in Baku at a press conference.

The Gabala radar station, located in the north-west of Azerbaijan, was built during the Soviet era as one of the most important elements of the USSR missile defense system. After Azerbaijan gained independence and the RLS became its property, Russia continued to use the station.

Earlier, the Russian Defense Ministry reported that negotiations were held with Azerbaijan to extend the lease of the Gabala radar station to 2025. The current lease agreement and operating conditions for this property expire in December 2012.

Vladimir Savchenko, Director General of the JSC “Radiotechnical Institute named after Academician A.L. Mints”, recently told RIA Newsthat the construction of the newest Voronezh-VP radar station in Gabala will be completed in 2019, this station will replace the previously used radar of the previous generation Daryal radar.
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  1. Vanek
    +3
    April 10 2012 06: 46
    Yes, from 7 to 300 - they certainly got excited.
    1. mind1954
      +3
      April 10 2012 07: 20
      All 90 years, leaving the entrance, I did not understand where I am?
      Either in Baku, or, after all, in Moscow. I personally watched them here
      got up! So it’s not got excited, it’s called Impunity
      CAUSES THE FEELING OF ALL-PERMISSION !!!
      True, now I am in central Asia!
      1. Vanek
        0
        April 10 2012 07: 24
        Quote: mind1954
        IMPUNITY
        CAUSES THE FEELING OF ALL-PERMISSION !!!


        What is true is true.
      2. SAMEDOV SULEYMAN
        -3
        April 10 2012 09: 32
        Quote: mind1954
        IMPUNITY
        CAUSES THE FEELING OF ALL-PERMISSION !!!

        And in what you saw impunity respected! Do not like do not eat!
        1. BAT
          +3
          April 10 2012 09: 55
          Good afternoon. Suleiman. I don’t want to offend you, but really a lot of your countrymen behave here, in Russia it’s very bad. One gets the impression that they believed in some kind of selectivity. And it seems to them that everything is permitted to them. They behave arrogantly, cynically and very arrogant in relation to the others. But not all of them. I personally know a lot of Azerbaijanis (and I am friends with many of them) who live like all other people. Someone has their own small business, someone works at a factory, some is engaged in farming
          As they say --- the family is not without a freak. That's just a lot of freaks came here to us. It would be better if more normal, smart and adequate people came, the majority of whom you have in Azerbaijan.
          1. SAMEDOV SULEYMAN
            +4
            April 10 2012 10: 19
            Quote: sichevik
            And it seems to them that everything is permitted to them. They behave arrogantly, cynically and very arrogant in relation to the others.

            Why do you keep it at home? If he is a citizen of Russia, this is your headache, if not a citizen, "load oranges in barrels" as the famous Russian oligarch used to say and back to where your mother gave birth!
            1. BAT
              0
              April 10 2012 10: 32
              It is not that simple. Immediately, all sorts of human rights defenders will accuse the Russian authorities of almost genocide against the Azerbaijani people (either Georgian, Tajik, etc. etc.) There have already been precedents with both Georgians and Tajiks ...
              1. synchrophasatron
                +5
                April 10 2012 10: 34
                SAMEDOV SULEYMAN, support. Anyone who does not know how to behave - home
                1. SAMEDOV SULEYMAN
                  +5
                  April 10 2012 10: 42
                  Quote: synchrophasatron
                  Anyone who does not know how to behave - home

                  Then we will have a council and love!
              2. SAMEDOV SULEYMAN
                +6
                April 10 2012 10: 41
                Quote: sichevik
                It is not that simple. Immediately, all sorts of human rights defenders will accuse the Russian authorities of almost genocide against the Azerbaijani people

                But do not publicly do this, quietly, silently as the 38th, arrived at night, picked up and shipped! Arrived, picked up and shipped!
                1. TURKEY
                  +1
                  April 11 2012 02: 10
                  Why don’t you say how the Russians behaved with our people? Compared to them, our angels. We endured.
    2. +4
      April 10 2012 07: 41
      At the moment, if we miss Azerbaijan, we will get the enemy ... So the outcome of the negotiations was predetermined from the very beginning ... We will pay and build ... Nothing, the mouse will shed tears of cat ...
      1. kNow
        -7
        April 10 2012 08: 12
        recoup on the supply of weapons, it does not matter laughing
        1. +2
          April 10 2012 08: 27
          Quote: kNow
          recoup on the supply of weapons, it does not matter
          You don’t need our weapons .. you’re buying Israeli and Turkish now ... So neither you nor we really need to bathe ...
          1. kNow
            +3
            April 10 2012 08: 38
            Just the other day, we shipped the second batch of Russian helicopters wink
        2. -4
          April 10 2012 09: 32
          Which you are against yourself and apply
      2. Sergh
        +1
        April 10 2012 08: 12
        Well, that’s true, that’s true, if they start to become impudent with me, then straight away, on a copper, in a hat with a spread, the question is immediately removed, everyone is happy, everyone is laughing. But short and clear.
        1. 0
          April 10 2012 08: 29
          lol These are the commanders on this site! Hello Sergey! You can’t immediately snout, you need to say in the beginning, well, like, Omar, you’re wrong ... They don’t live in Siberia ... There is this culture like him ... . laughing
          1. TURKEY
            0
            April 11 2012 02: 17
            and you try :)
        2. SAMEDOV SULEYMAN
          +1
          April 10 2012 09: 34
          Quote: Sergh
          Well, that’s true, that’s true, if they start to become impudent with me, then straight away, on a copper, in a hat with a spread, the question is immediately removed, everyone is happy, everyone is laughing. But short and clear.

          Something you did not see in your leadership bravado about this, and why are you so uprooted!
    3. Hysnik-Tsuzoy
      +1
      April 10 2012 08: 54
      In geopolitical terms, Azerbaijan is our opponent - this is how they position themselves (until 2011 - it was not very obvious). The story of Gabala - it clearly shows. 300 million are pre-impossible conditions. The demands of our smaller brothers from Azerbaijan are very reminiscent of the tricks of the Baltic states - to bite more painfully so that the owner on Capitol Hill will be convinced of full and unconditional loyalty.
      1. SAMEDOV SULEYMAN
        -2
        April 10 2012 09: 46
        Quote: Hysnik-Tsuzoy

        Geopolitically, Azerbaijan is our opponent

        Azerbaijan will be your opponent if it refuses to rent and places a NATO base on its territory! Then Azerbaijan will really be your opponent. And now all this bullshit dear. The point is not the sum of the contract (compatriots will not let you lie only five times as much on the road!) But in some kind of mutual concessions! I tell you to you!
        1. Hysnik-Tsuzoy
          -1
          April 10 2012 10: 08
          Quote: SAMEDOV SULEYMAN
          if refuses to rent and places on its territory a NATO base

          NATO will not give up the deployment of forces; now, when planning missile and bomb strikes on Iranian territory, Azerbaijan is considered as a necessary partner of NATO and Israel.
          1. SAMEDOV SULEYMAN
            +1
            April 10 2012 10: 29
            Quote: Hysnik-Tsuzoy
            attacks on Iranian territory Azerbaijan is considered as a necessary partner of NATO and Israel.

            Read carefully and delve into my post, maybe then you will understand that Iran has nothing to do with it. And Russia does not need to have a similar European missile defense system at hand! And what NATO thinks about Iran there is for us, on the drum!
            1. Hysnik-Tsuzoy
              -3
              April 10 2012 13: 25
              Alas, but specifically your point of view on the partnership of Azerbaijan with NATO does not coincide with the position of the leadership of the former Soviet republic.

              I quote:
              "A representative delegation of the North Atlantic Alliance (NATO) will arrive in Baku on April 9 to prepare for the third stage of the Individual Partnership Plan (IPAP) between Azerbaijan and this international military structure. During the talks, which will last until April 13, the focus will be on the implementation of the points of this plan. and the reform process. There is information about Azerbaijan's consent to accelerate bringing its Armed Forces to conformity with NATO standards: Speaking on this topic at the NATO headquarters in Brussels, the President of Azerbaijan said that the next stage of IPAP reforms can be accelerated. "

              According to him, the third stage of IPAP covers 2012 and 2013. The document is structured in four sections and includes issues of politics and security, defense, public information, civil emergency planning, science and the environment, as well as administrative issues, information security, resources and legal issues. The first stage of the IPAP was approved in 2005; Since then, two stages have been successfully completed, which is highly appreciated by NATO officials. According to the same source, Azerbaijan’s desire under NATO wing is fueled by its desire to secure a more advantageous strategic role in the region. And if earlier, according to him, it was restrained by fears of a negative reaction from Tehran, now, "when the role and place of Tehran in the world has been reduced to almost a minimum," you can openly discuss your geopolitical priorities: "and no one will divulge military secrets, saying: yes , Azerbaijan wants to join NATO. "" Source: http://www.regnum.ru/news/987502.html
              1. SAMEDOV SULEYMAN
                +2
                April 10 2012 13: 39
                Quote: Hysnik-Tsuzoy
                Individual Partnership Plan (IPAP) between Azerbaijan and this international military structure.

                The first stage of the Individual Partnership Action Plan (IPAP) between NATO and Azerbaijan was signed in May 2005. It should be noted that along with Azerbaijan, IPAP operates in 6 more countries (in Georgia - from October 2004, Armenia - from December 2005, Kazakhstan - from January 2006, in Moldova - from May 2006, Bosnia and Herzegovina - since 2008, in Montenegro - since June 2008). The IPAP reflects specific activities to integrate the security and defense sectors of partner countries into NATO. So dear, from the beginning, sort it out with your "friends", and then we'll talk about us!
                1. Hysnik-Tsuzoy
                  -2
                  April 10 2012 14: 00
                  You hold on to one point of view: you don’t need to switch arrows to friends or anyone else, you don’t talk about them, the fact is obvious - Azerbaijan, obliged by its existence to Russia! Russia, which has sheltered millions of Azerbaijanis, is turning into an enemy of No. 2 in the Caucasus. But there is a Russian visionary maxim: do not spit in the well.
                  1. SAMEDOV SULEYMAN
                    +2
                    April 10 2012 14: 33
                    Quote: Hysnik-Tsuzoy
                    Azerbaijan, obliged by its existence to Russia!

                    Yes, to hell! What a badun! Since when do we owe you. You do not compare us with data-processing republics. At the expense of us, the USSR state plan was fulfilled and exceeded, we milked and milked and could not get enough. If you have no idea what you are writing about, in June 1939, a meeting of geologists and geophysicists working in Siberia and the Far East was held at the People’s Commissariat of the Fuel Industry. The result was the departure to Siberia of about 50 geological, geophysical and topographic parties, drilling operations were started in 10 regions. However, in 1940, oil production between the river. The Volga and the Urals amounted to 1,8 million tons, and was concentrated in Bashkiria. At that time, total production in the USSR amounted to more than 33 million tons. Azerbaijan was the main oil base of the country, where in 1940 73% of the all-Union production was mined. I don’t even want to write further!
                    1. Hysnik-Tsuzoy
                      -2
                      April 10 2012 15: 39
                      These parties consisted of specialists trained in Moscow and St. Petersburg, and in general Azerbaijan began to develop the Russians as an oil-producing region in the XNUMXth century. still. By the way, about the XIX century. - if we hadn’t recaptured you from Iran, now you would not have existed as an ethnic group, or, like the Kurds, had been driven somewhere far away from this very oil!
                      1. SAMEDOV SULEYMAN
                        +2
                        April 10 2012 15: 50
                        Calm down Paphnutius! If you consider Azerbaijan an enemy, so be it!
                      2. Hysnik-Tsuzoy
                        -3
                        April 10 2012 16: 28
                        It is not that I consider or do not consider someone an enemy: the Azerbaijani authorities are positioning themselves as such in relation to Russia.
                        And I advise you not to change the addressing of the message in a polemic, otherwise you will be told about Thomas, and you will answer about Yerema.
                      3. synchrophasatron
                        +3
                        April 10 2012 16: 33
                        Quote: Hysnik-Tsuzoy
                        I do not consider it an enemy: Azerbaijani authorities position themselves as such


                        The authorities cannot a priori position themselves as an enemy. After all, both president’s daughters live in Russia ... Quarreling is more expensive request
                      4. Hysnik-Tsuzoy
                        -5
                        April 10 2012 20: 56
                        Several million Azerbaijanis live in Russia and nevertheless, the Azerbaijani authorities expressly express a desire to join NATO. So brainwash your leadership that it is not good to quarrel with an old good friend.
                      5. TURKEY
                        +1
                        April 11 2012 02: 20
                        Friend? What friend? Since when did he become a friend?
                      6. synchrophasatron
                        +4
                        April 11 2012 07: 11
                        Quote: Hysnik-Tsuzoy
                        Azerbaijani authorities expressly declare desire to join NATO


                        A self-respecting person will not flog such frank nonsense. At least give a reference, although where do you get it from?
                      7. SAMEDOV SULEYMAN
                        +3
                        April 10 2012 21: 35
                        Quote: Hysnik-Tsuzoy
                        I advise you

                        Mal is also giving me advice, first figure out your thoughts and decide what you yourself want!
                      8. Hysnik-Tsuzoy
                        -2
                        April 11 2012 15: 34
                        But you don’t need to be rude, I, older than you, carefully pointed out a rather typical logical mistake in modern communication, it is also called a substitute for the thesis.
                      9. TURKEY
                        +1
                        April 11 2012 02: 19
                        What you sow is what you reap.
                      10. kNow
                        +2
                        April 10 2012 16: 09
                        Quote: Hysnik-Tsuzoy
                        then we did not conquer you from Iran, now you would not exist as an ethnic group


                        In the part that you did not conquer - the ethnic group is in place winked often even in power. Do you know that Ali Hosseini Khamenei is Azerbaijani? wink Which leads Iran since 1989 ...
                      11. Hysnik-Tsuzoy
                        -3
                        April 10 2012 21: 45
                        Quote: kNow
                        Do you know that Ali Hosseini Khamenei is Azerbaijani?

                        Persians were considered the titular nation in Shah Iran, the rest of the peoples, including Azerbaijanis (ethnic Turks), were clearly second-rate. The Azerbaijanis had only one way in Shah’s Iran: either total marginalization (like the Kurds), or complete oppression with the loss of language, culture - in general, self-identity. Khamenei is an Azerbaijani who crawled out in the wake of the Great Islamic Revolution, an Azerbaijani with a unique history that only proves my point. Interestingly, does he know the Azerbaijani language?
                      12. synchrophasatron
                        +4
                        April 11 2012 07: 22
                        Quote: Hysnik-Tsuzoy
                        In Shah Iran


                        Azerbaijanis played an active role in overthrowing the shah’s regime. And besides Khamenei, there are quite a lot of Azerbaijanis in the power structures of Iran. Azerbaijani ethnos is quite capable of standing up for itself.

                        Quote: Hysnik-Tsuzoy
                        then we did not conquer you from Iran, now you would not exist as an ethnic group


                        I repeat - this phrase is unfounded.

                        Read carefully about the role of Russia:

                        Sattar Khan is an outstanding figure in the Constitutional Revolution in Iran of 1905-1911, a national hero of Iran. He received the nickname Sardar-e Melli (i.e. National Commander).

                        Sattar Khan was born in 1867 or August 19, 1868 in the village of Janali in Azerbaijani family Haji Hassan Buzzaz and his second wife. He worked in the industrial centers of Transcaucasia: a laborer in the construction of the Yerevan Railway, a foreman in brick factories, and also a worker in the Baku oil fields.

                        Participated in the partisan movement against the Shah authorities; repeatedly harassed. Headed an armed uprising in Tabriz in 1908-09; proved to be a talented national leader and military organizer. He was very popular among the people.

                        After the reactionary coup of Muhammad Ali Shah on June 23, 1908, a revolutionary movement breaks out in a number of Persian cities, which takes on especially wide proportions in Tabriz. Here Sattar Khan, the lowest officer of the Persian army along with two other patriots, gardener Karb Ali Hussein and Salari Milli Bagir Khan, created a revolutionary army, seized the arsenal and announced to the government of the Shah that he would not lay down his arms until he constitution restored.

                        Constitutionalists in Tabriz, 1909.
                        Twice in 1908-1909 Tabriz was besieged by the troops of the Shah. By the beginning of 1909, about 40 thousand shah and feudal troops had been pulled back to Tabriz. However, the revolutionaries, led by Sattar Khan, repeatedly defeated the much more numerous troops of the Shah and introduced great embarrassment into the ranks of the reactionaries. The general assault on Tabriz, scheduled for March 5, 1909, also failed.

                        Lenin in his article "Events in the Balkans and in Persia", citing the publication of the magazine "Novoye Vremya" that "anarchy in Tabriz has reached incredible proportions" and that the city is allegedly "half destroyed and plundered by semi-savage revolutionaries", wrote that "the victory the revolution over the Shah's troops in Tabriz, as you see, immediately caused the fury of the Russian officialdom. The leader of the revolutionary Persian army, Sattar Khan, is declared in this article "Aderbeydzhan Pugachev."

                        Sardari Milli Sattar Khan paid much attention to discipline and training. He managed to restrain his army from looting in his own city, thanks to which the Fed, unlike the Shah’s troops, enjoyed the support of the population of Tabriz and its environs. In between attacks, construction of fortifications was underway, and street fighting tactics were being developed. The government of Sattar Khan tried to maintain neutral relations with foreigners in order to prevent open intervention.

                        At 1909 Russia decides to intervene in events in Iranian Azerbaijan. On April 23, the tsar’s governor in the Caucasus receives an order to move a 5-strong detachment to Tabriz to protect Russian citizens. On April 30, this detachment, under the command of General Snarsky, enters Tabriz, and the defense of the city ceases. Sattar Khan, along with other constitutionalists, was forced to hide and found refuge at the Turkish consulate.

                        Sattar Khan passed away on November 4/17, 1914 in Tehran and was buried in Shah Abdul Azim near Tehran
                      13. Hysnik-Tsuzoy
                        -1
                        April 11 2012 15: 31
                        And I think why modern Azerbaijanis in Iran still do not have the opportunity in their own language to submit a single official piece of paper to the authorities, not to mention education. The revolution, which was so fostered by Azerbaijanis in Iran, did not change anything for them - only some climbed into power and enriched themselves. You would now like to be in Shiite Iran from your secular, cultured Russian state - I suspect not wink
                      14. synchrophasatron
                        +3
                        April 11 2012 17: 56
                        I agree that they are trying to erase - to put it more precisely - national identity. They do not give the opportunity to study in their native language, there are no magazines and newspapers in Azerbaijani. For the rest, do what you want. But I understand what they are afraid of.
                        Quote: Hysnik-Tsuzoy
                        You would now like to be in Shiite Iran from your secular, cultured Russian state - I suspect not

                        I would not like it - it’s boring there No.
                      15. fuad-m7
                        +2
                        April 12 2012 22: 03
                        UAE ALSO RUSSIANS HELPED WITH OIL Khysnik-Tsuza ???
                        if we didn’t conquer you from Iran now, you would not exist as an ethnic group. YOU WILL FIRST LOOK AT THIS VIDEO
                        (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FffD42e_IxQ&feature=related) BEFORE DO !! AZERBAIJANI WERE NOT WHERE LOST THEIR MENTALITY WHERE COMPACTLY LIVED NOT IN GEORGIA NOT IN RUSSIA NOT IN IRAN IF YOU DO NOT BELIEVE GO TO GEORGIA OR DERBENT DAGESTAN TERRITORY OF THE RUSSIAN FEDERATION !!

                        Hysnik-Tsuzoy,
                      16. fuad-m7
                        +3
                        April 12 2012 22: 40
                        UAE ALSO RUSSIANS HELPED WITH OIL Khysnik-Tsuza ???
                        if we didn’t conquer you from Iran now, you would not exist as an ethnic group. YOU WILL FIRST LOOK AT THIS VIDEO
                        (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FffD42e_IxQ&feature=related) !! AZERBAIJANI HAVE NOT LOST YOUR MENTALITY WHERE COMPACTLY LIVED NOT IN GEORGIA NOT IN RUSSIA NOT IN IRAN IF YOU DONT BELIEVE GO TO GEORGIA OR DERBENT DAGESTAN TERRITORY OF THE RUSSIAN FEDERATION !!
                        The great Islamic revolution, an Azerbaijani with a unique history that only proves my innocence. Interestingly, does he know the Azerbaijani language? AND YOU WILL LOOK AT THESE ROLLERS (1,2,3,) FIND OUT KNOWS OR NO !!!
                        1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AdKj83owSPY&feature=related
                        2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uI8oF45j43g&feature=related
                        3 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTuT5yuoLCE&feature=related
                        4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WA-bxr7qzY&feature=related
      2. synchrophasatron
        +4
        April 10 2012 09: 54
        Quote: Hysnik-Tsuzoy
        our smaller brothers


        do not confuse with an outpost
      3. +1
        April 10 2012 10: 00
        Recently, on this site in general, it has become enraging me that for the place to tell the truth (it is possible and cool), many begin to carry up peacekeeping optimistic nonsense just to improve their shoulder straps.
        Azerbaijanis are not friends to us .. (certainly not enemies ..... of course, there was someone there to count as an enemy ... so Syavka drags)
        As a result, it turns out that people come here under the banners of other flags and are frankly humiliating us ... But the people sitting here are trying to find excuses for the sake of the pluses.
        1. synchrophasatron
          +7
          April 10 2012 10: 07
          complex because of the minuses? do not write nonsense - there will be no minuses
        2. -2
          April 10 2012 12: 48
          And you act like I’m your plus always ... the discussion is not a reason for a fight ... that's when we will speak about the company such problems YOU WILL NOT WORRY ...
  2. +8
    April 10 2012 06: 47
    Which was required ... wait! laughing I said yesterday (based on information on the internet) that we will come to this. But the construction in Armenia, however, does not have to be postponed - the supply pocket does not pull! drinks, but helps in "difficult times to survive the hard times"
    1. Rumi007
      +7
      April 10 2012 07: 40
      Well, about the construction of the radar station in Armenia, you are a colleague, take your time. It is not needed there yet, it is in Armavir (Russia), it is in Gabala (there is a little bit left until the end of negotiations). There are already 2 radars in the Caucasus that control almost the same territory, and even in Armenia if you build, they make fun of it, make fun of it with God.
      IT IS BEST INSTEAD OF ARMENIA IN SIBERIA AND ON KAMCHATKA!
    2. +2
      April 10 2012 07: 43
      Hi Valera! How cool you are squandering budget money ... lol It is necessary to build not in Armenia, but on the Russian territory .. The mountains are high and it is quite possible to build ... A little more expensive, but mine ...
      1. +3
        April 10 2012 08: 45
        Quote: domokl
        How cool you are squandering budget money ...

        Hello Sasha! I bow to you, colleague, for having me enlisted in the ministers of finance of Russia! laughing And, if it is serious, then my words about construction in Armenia were a kind of response to Russia's possible consent to the proposal of Armenia, In short, then - rather - "Yes!" Than - "No!" laughing Well, what kind of Russian would not prefer the construction of a defense complex on its own territory to the construction on the territory of a neighboring, albeit friendly. state.
    3. kNow
      -4
      April 10 2012 08: 13
      Quote: esaul
      But construction in Armenia



      Yesaul, there is no construction in Armenia. There will be a backup station in Russian Armavir.
      1. +4
        April 10 2012 08: 31
        Quote: kNow
        There will be a backup station in Russian Armavir.
        Armavir is already under construction, and Armenia proposed its territory for construction no more than a week ago, when it became known about Baku’s plans for Karabakh ...
      2. -1
        April 10 2012 10: 02
        So you listen to you from the White (or you probably have a black) house and do not go out!
        So much information is straight waterfall! There are just no facts .... As I wrote earlier, the message is shaking ..... Look at the wolfhound, do not run into a clown!
  3. +7
    April 10 2012 07: 14
    Well, that settled down, and how many copies on the forum were broken. As they say, we assume that they have a top.
    1. +5
      April 10 2012 07: 18
      Quote: Tersky
      and how many copies broke on the forum

      Victor, salute! It’s good that only such copies were broken! laughing
  4. +4
    April 10 2012 07: 18
    Here are the good things =) it’s been known for a long time, you need 10, you ask 40, they give 15. I wonder how much they will converge in the case of Azerbaijan, we are waiting for the results
    1. +1
      April 10 2012 07: 45
      The amount is not important here .. I think we’ll split up on oil supply contracts ... Baku really needs Russian pipelines ... So the announced amount will not be so high ...
      1. SAMEDOV SULEYMAN
        -1
        April 10 2012 09: 30
        ,

        Quote: domokl
        .Bak really needs Russian pipelines ... So the announced amount will not be so high ...

        Then you turned everything upside down! Russia needs Azerbaijan to supply energy to Europe through its pipelines. I assure you neither Europe nor Azerbaijan needs this. Europe does not want to be dependent on Russia in gas supplies, and Azerbaijan does not depend on the whims of the Kremlin!
        1. TURKEY
          +1
          April 11 2012 02: 23
          I will give you a try, and then the Kremlin puts some minuses on your truths :)))))))))))))))))))) I’m somehow on the rating drum
  5. +5
    April 10 2012 07: 20
    esaul-Valera good morning! Well, that’s why it is a forum, how much useful information we get here, but as you know, the truth is born in a dispute! wink
    1. +2
      April 10 2012 07: 46
      fellow Recently, such a common truth does not work ... Truth can be born only in the disputes of the pros and in the presence of all the information ... And with us, the information is quite limited for many ...
      1. +4
        April 10 2012 08: 11
        domokl- Good afternoon, Alexander, I agree that infa is limited for many, but as for the pros, alas, not everyone is given such, there should be amateurs, the world is not without them request
  6. Rumi007
    +1
    April 10 2012 07: 33
    Agree, bring the matter to the end, believe me. And rest assured, the rental amount will be much lower than $ 300 million. Politics is a delicate thing; everything needs to be taken into account.
  7. predator
    -1
    April 10 2012 07: 37
    Yes, everything is simple, during negotiations by chance a couple of times they mentioned the name ONISHCHENKO, which magically acts on the neighboring countries.
    1. Rumi007
      +1
      April 10 2012 07: 46
      So what ? Onishchenko cannot influence the negotiation process in any way. If there may be a ban on the import of certain goods from Azerbaijan, for Azerbaijan this essentially means nothing. Recently, one of their politicians said that Azerbaijan would only lose as much as this, just $ 200 million. In addition, the Baku-Tbilisi-Kars railway will soon work, and there is a direct road to Europe, Azerbaijan is already preparing its products for European markets and in large volumes. It turns out, comrade, that Russia should not be joking like that, because of these prohibitions, and so on, prices for products in Russia are rising.
      1. SAMEDOV SULEYMAN
        -1
        April 10 2012 09: 24
        Quote: Rumi007
        Azerbaijan is already preparing its products for European markets and in large volumes. It turns out, comrade, that Russia should not be joking like that, because of these prohibitions, and so on, prices for products in Russia are rising.

        Hello Rumi! Watching your comments, I noticed your awareness of these issues. Where from? Interesting.
        1. Rumi007
          +3
          April 10 2012 11: 42
          At one time I studied the military status of the CIS countries, so I became very interested in Azerbaijan, as I am arming myself at a fast pace, studying economics, comparing it with other countries, in a word I am aware of the problems in the Caucasus and, in particular, the situation in Azerbaijan in general. Only here with democracy you have tight and terrible corruption there winked If these problems are solved, then your country will go far!
          1. SAMEDOV SULEYMAN
            +1
            April 10 2012 12: 11
            Quote: Rumi007
            Only here with democracy you have tight and terrible corruption there

            What are you, what are you !!! This is out of the question! At least I won’t live to see it, and I think everyone here is a drum!
    2. Charon
      +2
      April 10 2012 09: 09
      Indeed, at the mention of the name Onishchenko, some individuals in the near abroad break in a screech.
    3. SAMEDOV SULEYMAN
      -3
      April 10 2012 09: 19
      Quote: predator
      ONISHCHENKO, which magically acts on neighboring countries.

      Do you understand what you wrote? And who is she, why I don’t know!
      1. Charon
        0
        April 10 2012 09: 45
        The surname Onishchenko can be both feminine and masculine.
        1. SAMEDOV SULEYMAN
          -1
          April 10 2012 10: 07
          Quote: Charon

          The surname Onishchenko can be both feminine and masculine.

          Dear Charon, I know this very well!
          1. Charon
            0
            April 10 2012 10: 39
            Then I did not understand what was the claim to the Predator?
            1. SAMEDOV SULEYMAN
              -1
              April 10 2012 10: 57
              Quote: Charon

              Then I did not understand what was the claim to the Predator?

              Claims about not knowing the essence of the matter. To whom is the appeal on trade and product quality issues to Azerbaijan? Do not tell me! Yes, your expenses have been made by our chamber of commerce regarding the supply of products to your market, and Onishchenko I assure you they have no decree. We have something that is not a cabinet meeting, but a controversy over food prices and all because it is being delivered to your domestic market. And the goods are bought mainly by your Russians. And the fact that Azerbaijanis are trading in the bazaar is not talking about anything, the owners of the goods are mostly Russian. Do not you not know this!
              1. Charon
                +1
                April 10 2012 12: 24
                Suleiman, I'm sorry generously, but I do not understand the reasons for the collision.
                Your phrase, which surprised me, referred, as it seemed to me, to the floor of Onishchenko, no more.
                I did not make any claims to the quality of Azerbaijani goods, although I know only pomegranate juice and wine from them. And this quality more than suits me. Not worse than the Armenian counterparts. (He specifically wrote about Armenians, out of harm).
                No, in fact, the shot is in the wrong target, Suleiman.
                1. SAMEDOV SULEYMAN
                  0
                  April 10 2012 12: 33
                  Respected! Most likely it is my fault that you did not understand, because as they say, not in Russian! The phrase "You yourself understood what you wrote?" - about the fact that you are not aware of the products supplied from Azerbaijan. And the phrase - "And who is, why I do not know!" from a movie, and the meaning is that with him (Yushchenko), in general, no one takes into account!
                  1. Charon
                    0
                    April 10 2012 13: 34
                    Good. Misunderstandings are over.
                    But the role of Onishchenko should not be minimized. He fits into the general scheme more than successfully. At a minimum, he regularly voices very difficult questions. And actions may follow. Maybe there is, we just don’t know.
                    And if after its arrival the delivered products (like with Moldovan wine) will be improved, it’s generally wonderful.
                    Plus, after the cheese scandal with Ukraine, I try to track products containing palm oil. That is, thanks to him already.

                    And no one really has long been considered Yushchenko (or is it also an inaccuracy?)

                    Threat Cons are not mine. Obviously again the troll ran around the site.
                    1. SAMEDOV SULEYMAN
                      +1
                      April 10 2012 14: 12
                      [quote = Charon] Threat Cons are not mine. Obviously again the troll ran over the site [/ quote]
                      And to me on a drum! And the Colonel will come down! [Quote = Charon] But nobody really counts with Yushchenko for a long time (or is it also an inaccuracy?)
                      [/ Quote]
                      Well, it’s not so obvious, of course, where it’s necessary to tighten, where to pour it, where to fix it, but they won’t miss the goods at such bargain prices. For example, about pomegranate and hazelnuts — buying pomegranate juice and narsharab — yours take both the first and second grades at the same price, but in the domestic market of the first grade you will not see (why? The question is not for me), and now western companies buy hazelnuts peeled hazelnuts separately, shells separately (for furniture production), and Russia unpeeled (why I don’t understand either, but honestly I don’t want to). Trading with Russia has been going on for a long time and according to old Soviet schemes.
                      1. Charon
                        0
                        April 10 2012 15: 33
                        Quote: SAMEDOV SULEYMAN
                        yours take both the first and second grades at the same price, but in the domestic market of the first grade you will not see (why? the question is not for me),


                        Is there a first grade? Maybe everything is like in that joke - from one barrel? Just an advertising move.

                        Quote: SAMEDOV SULEYMAN
                        and Russia is untreated


                        And here everything is simple. Uncleaned in the store is four times cheaper than fried pre-packaged.
                      2. SAMEDOV SULEYMAN
                        +1
                        April 10 2012 16: 03
                        Quote: Charon
                        Is there a first grade? Maybe everything is like in that joke - from one barrel? Just an advertising move

                        I am spinning in the circle of these people, and I know many of your guys by sight, we often have gatherings together, so they talk about their things there, you want to, you don’t want to participate in a conversation for the sake of decency, without going into the details and essence of the matter. So dear Charon , according to their concepts, so-If they want to buy, no one will bother them!
  8. +4
    April 10 2012 08: 10
    "Voronezh-VP" -station from the family of early warning radar systems of the "Voronezh" type. Moreover, the latest option. VP is translated as high-potential radar (operating frequency range is classified). The power is less than 10 MW, the range is 6000 km. In practice, this is the maximum range at which the earth ball can shine. Well, if you choose a higher hill, the range can be even greater. The number of simultaneously tracked targets has not been announced. For comparison, the decimeter Voronezh-DM can simultaneously track 500 targets.
    Now stations of this type are located (under construction)
    -Usolye Siberian Irkutsk region. The station must fully control the territory of China
    - Pechora of the Republic of Komi to replace the radar Pechora type "Daryal".
    - Olenegorsk, Murmansk region, to replace the Dniester type radar.
    They block the main strategic route of the US strike forces
    Well, now Gabala will be updated in a similar way .. By the way, the Daryal radar station in Gabala could simultaneously track only 100 targets. This is not enough in modern conditions when amer x. a CR cloud can be used in a massive strike. Therefore, in each direction, we need to have at least 3 stations that have high selectivity and reliability.


    Antenna for the "Voronezh-VP" radar station, Mishelevka settlement near Usolye-Sibirskoye, autumn 2011
    1. +2
      April 10 2012 08: 54
      Thank you very much for the photo, dear Ascetic! Served there, I wonder how and what is there drinks
  9. kNow
    +2
    April 10 2012 08: 16
    What emotional are you comrades angry almost killed each other laughing I told you, the Russian government is not really soared about this
  10. Charon
    0
    April 10 2012 09: 07
    I strongly suspect that the information about the construction of the radar in Armenia is a duck. Either this is a way of pressure on Azerbaijan, or the journalist bought into similar terrain names, but it was still about the second stage of the radar in our Armavir.
    1. SAMEDOV SULEYMAN
      -3
      April 10 2012 09: 36
      Quote: Charon

      I strongly suspect that the information about the construction of the radar in Armenia is a duck.

      Absolutely right dear! Duck designed for a simple layman!
      1. 0
        April 10 2012 13: 15
        Quote: SAMEDOV SULEYMAN
        ! Duck designed for a simple layman!

        Suleiman, I welcome you. This duck, if it is for the layman, then it means little. Is it worth it to shake the air, since the effect of this is equivalent to the effect of the opinion of the layman. But as an element of "take on the show", this is quite a thing - consistent, as a touch to the entire toolkit of influencing the opponent.
        1. SAMEDOV SULEYMAN
          0
          April 10 2012 13: 53
          Quote: esaul
          "take on show-off"

          What will be built in Armenia is what a cheap show off! Who can benefit from such a cheap trick? This station is just a problem for your information and no money will pay for the damage that it does to the environment .wikipedia.org / wiki / Габалиская_РЛС-In the Azerbaijani newspaper Zerkalo it was stated that the station occupies about 210 hectares and about 30 hectares - a garbage dump with her. Another 400 hectares of forest was cut down during the construction of high-voltage lines to service the station. The underground water level dropped sharply after 16 artesian wells were drilled to supply water to the cooling system of the station’s electronic equipment. Each hour of operation of the station’s cooling system requires about 300-400 cubic meters of water, after which the water is discharged into the river without any treatment. Due to the fall of groundwater, the surrounding forests began to die. Many species of fish in the river have disappeared. The local population continues to use water from the river [6].
          The Zerkalo newspaper reports that in 1984, with a supply of 300 MW, one hectare of land was completely burned out [6]. In other sources, cases of ignition of trees from radiation of the meter range are not described; such fires do not occur during operation of a similar radar station in Pechora, or of a comparable power DON-2N radar station in the Moscow Region. And the power consumption of Daryal stations does not exceed 50 MW.
  11. patriot2
    +1
    April 10 2012 09: 23
    I agree with the Ascetic,
    all right, there are no unnecessary stations in detecting massive targets.
    Article +
  12. 0
    April 10 2012 10: 10
    300 million .... Azerbaijan ... you say ... okay thirty tanks of Armenia for free and the same result ... plus ...
    1. Rumi007
      +5
      April 10 2012 11: 26
      You mentioned tanks, and Russia and Azerbaijan are negotiating the purchase of the T-90S by Azerbaijan. However... what
  13. -2
    April 10 2012 12: 43
    As I understand it, they put pressure on them ... they made concessions ... maybe they just promised the weapons of Armenia ... and since the Armenians promised nothing to pay for free ... it’s on the surface ... again, the Armenians offered a place for the construction of an analogue ... so they squeezed ...
    1. SAMEDOV SULEYMAN
      -2
      April 10 2012 12: 52
      Quote: ward
      so they squeezed ...

      And what are the results already? Rather, they lost in something else, which, in principle, was emphasized!
  14. SAMEDOV SULEYMAN
    +3
    April 10 2012 13: 28
    Dear colleagues, yes you will not please! Just a little bayonet. What are you doing? Well do not like the price, well, do not rent? If you want to build in Armenia, build! Claims in what? Yes, we do not owe anything to anyone! The only problem is Karabakh and keep us on a short note. And you don’t like Aliyev? Yes, thank you, say that he and not anyone else. I would turn my back on you and what would you do. In Putin, while discussing geopolitics, he focuses on the buffer zone of Russia, and what are you trying to prove that you do not need neighbors. Well do not need so do not need! Scared! The ability to communicate on equal terms without mutual reproaches and claims is the key to normal and strong relations. I personally am against confrontation and many site members are very sympathetic to me. But the heresy that some of them carry is not included in any framework at all — it purchases weapons from Israel, modernizes the army, concludes agreements for the supply of energy resources, pursues a multi-vector policy, and approaches rapprochement with Turkey. So what? We are neighbors. If you don’t understand this, I’ll explain it popularly. A bad neighbor is better than a good relative.
  15. Odinplys
    +5
    April 10 2012 15: 32
    God gave reason ... to both sides ... Thank God ... agreed ...
    And then they decided to build in Armenia ... (Jews cannot be trusted at all)
    1. TURKEY
      0
      April 11 2012 02: 28
      I put you a plus)))))))) however funny post.
      But these so-called Jews have always been devoted to the Kremlin.
      Although the Kremlin should surrender their positions in Karabakh, I'm afraid the American missile defense will be in Armenia.