US intelligence agencies are pushing the Israeli army to the complete destruction of Palestine

Syrian Deputy Foreign Minister Faisal al-Mikdad commented on the course of events in the Middle East related to the recognition by the US President Donald Trump of Jerusalem as the capital of Israel. From al-Mikdad’s statement to the Iranian television channel Al-Alam:

The terrorist war against Syria aims to pave the way for the implementation of the decision on recognizing Jerusalem as the capital of the Israeli occupational entity. The Americans and Israelis still support the ISIS (* banned in the Russian Federation) and Dzhebhat an-Nusra (*) militants, with the US military training terrorists at their military bases in Hassek and Homs, and from Israel the bandits are consistently delivered weapon, food and medicine.

Syrian journalist Riyadh Farid Hijab, commenting on the statement by the deputy head of the SAR foreign ministry, writes about the plans of the US special services to use the Palestinian-Israeli conflict for their own purposes - to get additional support for the pro-Israel lobby. In particular, it is reported about the readiness to send mercenaries to the conflict zone with the symbols of Hezbollah to participate in provocations against Israeli soldiers - under the guise of fighters for the independence of Palestine.

Such plans aim to discredit not only Hezbollah, but the entire Palestinian resistance in the eyes of the international community. The message is that the Palestinians are supposedly ready to "rely on terrorists" in the fight against the state of Israel. This would make the large-scale Israeli use of military force against Palestine legitimate with the final elimination of any hint of statehood.

Meanwhile, Israel’s former defense minister, Moshe Ya'alon, said that for modern Israel, the danger of Hezbollah, Iran, Hamas and even ISIS (*) is less than the danger of corruption in the upper echelons. This is reported by the portal. AMN.

Comments

[Zaurbek]

It has been asking for a long time ... Why such an unstable place near by?

[svp67]

Quote: Zaurbek

It has been asking for a long time ... Why such an unstable place near by?

Destroying Palestine is NOT POSSIBLE ... Just like Israel. Does history really teach anyone or anything?

[Puss in Boots]

there are doubts about Israel, there are so many enemies around , and given the frankly Zionist rhetoric of the latter, in recent years only growing, they can only increase!

[svp67]

Quote: Cat in Boots

there are doubts about Israel, there are so many enemies around

Well, it was already in History ... but as "a phoenix from the ashes, he was reborn again ..."

[Puss in Boots]

in the current conditions and with modern weapons, the second time may not slip

[Shahno]

You wanted to say the third time ...

[Puss in Boots]

Sorry, I’m not following the number of attempts to destroy the God-chosen

[hrych]

Quote: Cat in Boots

Sorry, I’m not following the number of attempts to destroy the God-chosen

Chronicles and archeology, while they talk about one successful time (the defeat of the Khazars), well, the second time, as if the Arabs are believed to have tried in the 20th century, only Israel attacked all the times and the first time, together with Britain and France, in 1956, when Egypt nationalized the Suez Canal. It all began with this and it is not necessary to ascribe here the time when the British mandated stay ended, when there was porridge, when Jordan itself was the mandated territory of the same Britain, and Syria, together with Lebanon, ceased to be a mandated French colony since 1941 (thanks to Hitler), but the troops withdrew only in 1946. Those. plainly there were neither Jordanian, nor Syrian, nor Lebanese states. Their army is an irregular rabble. And the fuss was similar to the privatization of land by gangs, where Jews, with the support of the West, better orientated themselves.

Quote: Rogue1812

Israel is impossible to destroy

Everything is possible, there are means at the disposal of mankind that will do it instantly, there are means that will do it slowly. Experience in the liquidation of state entities is available. As well as the Jewish states in which I actually do not believe, i.e. in general, to the existence of these states, because neither archeology nor ancient chroniclers told us anything, but only Tanach, like the creations of Ron Hubbard, well, a certain Flavius ​​Joseph, who declared himself king in exile, created an absurdity that does not interfere with the official chroniclers of the Macedonians and The Romans, who have ruled Palestine for hundreds of years, from Alexander to the conquest of the Caliphate However, there was a state formation with official Judaism, but it was called the Khazar Kaganate, destroyed at the end of the first millennium of the new era by the Russians and the so-called Ashkenazes came from there. The Khazar theory puts an end to the Palestinian claims and in every possible way the leaders of the diaspora is tormented, despite the chronicles and archeology. However, in January 2013, the results of a study of more than half a million single-nucleotide mutations identified in the genomes of 1237 people, representing both the Jewish population of Eastern Europe and the Caucasian, Asian and Middle Eastern ethnic groups, were published. The results of studies conducted by Dr. Eran Elhaik were published in Genome Biology and Evolution. According to the publication, most of the Jews of Central and Eastern Europe descend from the descendants of the population of the Khazar Khaganate. When archeology, chronicles and genetics converge at one point, the destruction of myths occurs.

[voyaka uh]

You cannot be denied a certain "integrity".
Alternative economy, alternative history ...
You carefully collect all the garbage from the Internet
and serve in portions to VO.

The books of Josephus 2000 of prescription are so clearly confirmed
archaeological excavations that literally in Jerusalem "dig on it
books. "

[hrych]

Quote: voyaka uh

alternative history...

All questions to UNESCO, they did not find the Hebrew cultural layer there

Quote: voyaka uh

literally in Jerusalem "digging it
books. "

The city was Eliya Capitolina and there is nothing and can not be anything there except the Roman period. And genetics, excuse me ... questions to your chromosomes They destroyed the living, native languages, namely, you go on and on, where there was literature, theaters, etc., forced to speak a certain invented book-dead language, based on the Aramaic alphabet (also the dead-written accounting language of the Persian Empire) without vowels at all. And they sent to fight in the desert for the Suez Canal. Ingenious. And the funny thing is that I bring well-known facts that no one hides. Neither by Elya, nor by masoretes. Even UNESCO is not your authority You have mysticism, but we have statistics

[voyaka uh]

"The city was Eliya Capitolina" ////

You do not know how to add 2 + 2.
Romans 1) destroyed the ancient city of Jerusalem after
victory over the Jews in the Judean war in 70 AD.
The walls were demolished and Jews were forbidden to settle in the city.
But the Greeks were not banned!
And 2) the city was RENAME in Greek - in Elia Capitolina.
Since then, BEFORE the conquest of his Arabs, he became Elya Capitolina.
The Arabs did not like the Greek names, and they renamed it back to Jerusalem.
Sultan Suleiman the Magnificent even cleared the place where there was a temple of King Solomon, whom the Arabs
respected as a sage and a magician. He built new walls. The name of the city has returned.
And the crusaders in their campaigns did not conquer Capitoline, but Jerusalem.

"You have mysticism, and we have wink statistics" ///

You - alternatives - dense ignorance.

[Strips]

Quote: hrych

Even UNESCO is not your authority

And is Russian authority?

UNESCO Executive Board adopted another resolution on the situation in Crimea

The issue of the situation in Crimea is raised at every session of the UNESCO Executive Board for at least the last two years. According to representatives of the Russian delegation, this issue is exclusively politicized. As noted in the Permanent Mission of the Russian Federation, UNESCO "is actually used to relay propaganda cliches whose sole purpose is to deny the historical choice of the people of Crimea at the 2014 referendum."

RIA News https://ria.ru/world/20171011/1506652442.html

Or does Russia have double standards?

[AID.S]

Quote: hrych

they did not find there a hebrew cultural layer

Interestingly, there is the Wailing Wall, but there is no cultural layer, maybe we mean a more ancient history. Well unesco!

[hrych]

Quote: voyaka uh

the city RENAME in Greek - in Elia Capitolina

You contradict yourself, it was demolished to the ground, i.e. completely eliminated then renamed what to rename if it does not exist. Elia does not come from Greek and in honor of the emperor Hadrian for his name was Publius Aelius Hadrianus. Those. built a city in honor of himself
And the Turkish sultan calculated after 1,5 thousand years in a tunic, apparently had georadars, satellite sensing, etc. Voyaka, history is clearly not your topic, you should not do this

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: voyaka uh

The books of Josephus 2000 of prescription are so clearly confirmed
archaeological excavations that literally in Jerusalem "dig on it
books. "

Come on Jerusalem. Let a man go to Rome and stand under the arch of Titus.

[hrych]

Guys drag some kind of candlestick and what? The main evidence? Who are they grobanuli once again No inscription. Why put a triumphal arch for the victory over the lands that were them a hundred years old and so on? 70-100 goth - the time of the greatest prosperity of the Roman Empire, constant wars went around the perimeter, and the BV was captured from the Macedonians for a long time, like Egypt

[hrych]

Quote: Aaron Zawi

Quote: hrych

UNESCO is a specialized agency of the United Nations Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organization. Its jurisdiction includes world history, archeology, etc. In the Crimean issue, one must look at what is presented, annexation, well, yes, we seized it from the Ottoman Empire, then from Ukraine, for God's sake, I agree with criticism. Jerusalem, on the other hand, is a legacy of Islamic-Arab culture, which UNESCO stated and did not recognize the existence of similar Jewish claims. The wall of Fort Anthony against Al Aksa, well, does not roll Where are the Jewish states? The Romans called Palestine, before them the Greeks, in particular Herodotus called the land Syria Palestine. All ALES.

UNESCO is a politicized structure serving the Muslim bloc and their minions.
By the way, a connoisseur of archeology do not tell me what kind of shekel?

Aronchik, I see a coin with an amphora and a leaf with .... Aramaic signs, and the Aramaic language and its alphabet was the lingua franca of the Persian Empire, i.e. to the Greek characters, when the Macedonians captured the BV, then Latin began to dominate, then the Arabic script, by the way, not Arabic, but Nabatean, which also comes from Aramaic cuneiform records. This coin can be a fake, unfortunately the metal does not date, however very good preservation immediately catches your eye, silver coins and even more so gold ones from Roman times have normal preservation, but the copper coins die in a hundred or two years. Copper is oxidized, the outer layer with signs dies first. Also, while in circulation, the signs are abraded because they were carried in a bag and they injured each other. Artifacts now on the market for one and a half hundred years, 99% are fakes. But, I repeat, to find the Aramaic sign in the BV is not a problem, it was Hebrew invented by masoretes based on Aramaic signs, and not vice versa, they voiced the dead, although the Aramaic language also became dead, but remained written, accounting, etc. while lively - the spoken language became Persian. When conquering countries and peoples, they first start to fight the local language, are forced to speak the language of the mother country. Alexander also did when he burned the Avestan library and made everyone speak Greek, then Caesar burned Alexander's library and made everyone speak Latin, and the Arabs destroyed Latin. Leonardo Davinci, etc., launched the Renaissance after the gloomy Middle Ages (the revival of Roman science and culture), translating Roman treatises into their filthy languages, moreover, as a rule, from ... Arabic because Latin were destroyed both in Rome and in New Rome ( Istanbul), and Arabic translations of Latin texts came to Europe. The Catholic Church also tried to destroy the ancient treatises and replace them with their fables, albeit in Latin. Therefore, such problems with the BV, crowds of conquerors rode there, the Egyptians fought with the Hittites, the Hittites were beaten out by Akkadians, Assyrians, etc. The Persians were knocked out, the Macedonians cleaned them up, Rome slammed it, ceded the lands to the Arabs, the crusaders hung out and captured all the Ottomans, then the mandated Anglo-French colonies and now the current independent states, but thanks to the Arabs and Turks, there remained the Arabic script and the Arabic language, with Islamic cultural heritage. Unfortunately, neither the Egyptians, nor the Hittites, nor the Akkadians, nor the Persians, nor the Greeks, nor the Romans have anything about you (except for the dubious yoshi flavius). Tanah, Torah, etc., were created in Greek, and the Masorets wrote it with Aramaic signs, only then it was revived and now you indulge on it, although it sounds, I'm sorry, but it’s absurd, the vowel problem immediately catches the eye (ears). In short, how Beyeeesik or Turbopascal revived and forced to speak like R2D2 I repeat that I said no one hides, but add myths about the past. Masoretes are groups of Jewish scholars concentrated mainly in Jerusalem, Tiberias and Babylonia, which during from VII to XI century tried to work with the Aramaic heritage, but a thousand years passed ... what could they get there

[Spec]

The main thing, during genetic research, is to ensure that there are no scratches on the tubes

[Strips]

Yes, you have collected so much garbage.

Just to show your bias and attempts at distortion, just look at your quote:

Quote: hrych

However, in January 2013, the results of a study of more than half a million single-nucleotide mutations identified in the genomes of 1237 people, representing both the Jewish population of Eastern Europe and the Caucasian, Asian and Middle Eastern ethnic groups, were published. The results of studies conducted by Dr. Eran Elhaik were published in Genome Biology and Evolution.

As :

Pavel Flegontov and Alexei Kasyan criticized the technique used by Eran Elhaik in his research, and noted a lot of obvious stretches in his conclusions. In their opinion, the method gives correct results only in the study of modern and unmixed populations; for tasks like the one that Elhaik solved, he is absolutely unsuitable. An attempt by researchers, as an experiment, to determine using this method the "place of origin" of modern populations of the New World gave frankly absurd results. “He's just wrong,” said Marcus Feldman of Stanford University, a leading researcher in Jewish genetics. “If you take a thorough genetic analysis of the population over the past 15 years ... there is no doubt about the prevalence of Middle Eastern origin.” “This is an unrealistic premise,” said geneticist at the University of Arizona Michael Hammer, one of the best Y chromosome researchers in the world. Geneticist Razib Khan accused the researcher of selectively using the results and fitting them to a pre-invented conclusion, while at the same time noting: "it is not surprising that we will find a small but significant Khazar contribution to the Jewish gene pool." Other experts use even harsher phrases to criticize this work: Sergio della Pergola called it “falsification,” Shaul Stamfer “complete nonsense” - indicating that the authors did not use materials from other European Jewish groups. Professor Dovid Katz (Vilnius University) ridicules the language analysis of the study: “the authors combined accurate, but contextually meaningless genetic correlations with ridiculous linguistic theories

So you’re doing about the same thing - collecting pointless garbage in an attempt to create an alternative story

[hrych]

Quote: Tiras

collect meaningless garbage in an attempt to create an alternative story

There is archeology, there are ancient chroniclers, there are cuneiform libraries of BV and steles of Egypt. There is nothing about Jewish states. BV so a piece of the Earth is not great. Where are they lost? There is Herodotus, who described the Persian Empire from its creation, to its capture of Egypt, the entire BV, etc. I did not mention any Jews, unfortunately, nor any Mordykhai. Josephus Flavius, called himself the hereditary king of the Jews, allegedly lived from 37 to 100 CE, but one thing ... the Flavian clan is very famous, the ancient Roman clan, from Vespasian became the home of the Roman emperor. Joseph allegedly was a slave, what are the royal metrics The story that Yosya was supposedly a slave (not even correlated with a captive royal son) predicted Vespasianu throne and was released from slaves. Since that time, Joseph allegedly as a freedman began to bear the family name of his master - “Flavius”. Already for this the impostor would be put on a count. There is something with the name of the emperor. Andrei Razin really represented himself as Gorbachev’s tribe And so everything within the framework of fairy tales, when Moisha was let in the basket with the flow and she was picked up by the pharaoh, of course, there is no one else, including crocodiles There are fairy tales, but there are chronicles and archeology, history is written by chroniclers, not storytellers.

[Strips]

It's very fun to read how you dodge. True.



Learn

http://www.ejwiki.org/wiki/Библейская_археология

http://www.ejwiki.org/wiki/Археология_Израиля

Although apparently your goal is different, and not in an attempt to understand and understand

So this is more information for those who are really interested and want to understand.

[hrych]

Quote: Tiras

Or does Russia have double standards?

UNESCO is a specialized agency of the United Nations Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organization. Its jurisdiction includes world history, archeology, etc. In the Crimean issue, one must look at what is presented, annexation, well, yes, we seized it from the Ottoman Empire, then from Ukraine, for God's sake, I agree with criticism. Jerusalem, on the other hand, is a legacy of Islamic-Arab culture, which UNESCO stated and did not recognize the existence of similar Jewish claims. The wall of Fort Anthony against Al Aksa, well, does not roll Where are the Jewish states? The Romans called Palestine, before them the Greeks, in particular Herodotus called the land Syria Palestine. All ALES.

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: hrych

UNESCO is a specialized agency of the United Nations Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organization. Its jurisdiction includes world history, archeology, etc. In the Crimean issue, one must look at what is presented, annexation, well, yes, we seized it from the Ottoman Empire, then from Ukraine, for God's sake, I agree with criticism. Jerusalem, on the other hand, is a legacy of Islamic-Arab culture, which UNESCO stated and did not recognize the existence of similar Jewish claims. The wall of Fort Anthony against Al Aksa, well, does not roll Where are the Jewish states? The Romans called Palestine, before them the Greeks, in particular Herodotus called the land Syria Palestine. All ALES.

UNESCO is a politicized structure serving the Muslim bloc and their minions.
By the way, a connoisseur of archeology do not tell me what kind of shekel?

[hrych]

Quote: Tiras

It's very fun to read how you dodge. True.

Oh no, you dodge it. Everything was invented by Maimonides, including slave Yoshu Flavius, who, with the release, allegedly added the surname of an ancient Roman family, even the imperial family, collectively called the King of the Jews of the Hasmoneans and was not put on a stake. It's like Budulay Romanov, almost a relative of Nikalay II Romanov Why other chroniclers do not duplicate Flavia, why such a significant event as the destruction of Jerusalem was not described by other sources, why there are many obvious fakes, including quotes about Christ, etc.

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: hrych

Oh no, you dodge it. Everything was invented by Maimonides, including slave Yoshu Flavius, who, with the release, allegedly added the surname of an ancient Roman family, even the imperial family, collectively called the King of the Jews of the Hasmoneans and was not put on a stake. It's like Budulay Romanov, almost a relative of Nikalay II Romanov Why other chroniclers do not duplicate Flavia, why such a significant event as the destruction of Jerusalem was not described by other sources, why there are many obvious fakes, including quotes about Christ, etc.

Have you ever read anything besides the "Fomenkovschina"?
For example, the analysis of the first dodging of Israel on the Egyptian stella?
http://world.lib.ru/g/genis_d_e/stelamerneptahais
rael.shtml

[Shahno]

Hirbet Beit Loya. There an inscription is engraved on a stone, its age is proved, the times of Hezekiah, 8 century BC. e.
"יהוה אלהי כל הארץ, הרי יהד לו לאלהי ירשלם
This is exactly confirmed by the Bible. I hope it’s not difficult to translate.

[Shahno]

I think that this original in stone written in Hebrew is enough to determine the age of Jerusalem and understand that it was not mentioned as a village, but along with Ashdod and Askelon (the sample was stored in such conditions that it was not difficult to determine the age of the record, and without angle analysis). Well, to close the topic there are artifacts in the language of Dr. Egypt and Akkadian cuneiform. I can provide original inscriptions, but I'm afraid Google will not help. If you do not believe, you can visit the museum of Cairo and Israel. And so you have to believe, but still I saw them and even felt in Cairo.

[GAF]

Dear Khrych, advise your opponents to read Gumilyov about Khazaria. How the Jews ended up there and how they got out without leaving any archaeological evidence of their stay. Written sources only. It is useless to argue with the team.

[Operator]

Eran Elhaik was mistaken - see Anatoly Klesov's History of the Jews.

The vast majority of Jews have the Middle East subclades of haplogroups - South Semitic J1, North Semitic J2, Hamitic E1, Celtic R1b and Aryan R1a.
A small number of European subclades R1b, R1a and Illyrian I are due to the long residence of Jews in Europe.
Mongolian C2, which serves as a characteristic mark for all Turkic-speaking peoples, was not found among European Jews, with the exception of the Karaites of Crimea (who are really descendants of the Khazars).

Ashkenazi (natives of Eastern Europe) make up the absolute majority of all Jews in the world (over 80%), but all of them have ancestors from Poland, where Jews from the XNUMXth century who were expelled from Western Europe migrated to.

Jews entered Europe from North Africa in the XNUMXth century, moving in a train of Arab troops, and initially settled on the Iberian Peninsula.

After the liberation of the Iberian Peninsula from the Arabs, the Spanish authorities began to Christianize the Jews, who refused to be baptized en masse moved to Central Europe.

During the spread of Lutheranism, Jews were expelled even further east to Poland and Lithuania, where local authorities used Jews as colonists to settle the territories of Ukraine and Belarus.

By the time of the partition of Poland in the XVIII century, the number of Jews in its population was about 10%, these Jews were part of the population of Russia, Germany and Austria-Hungary.

From Germany and Austria-Hungary, former Polish Jews began to spread westward to France, Italy and Holland. Nevertheless, the core of the Jewish people remained on the territory of Poland - of the 6 million Jews who died during World War II, 3 million were Polish citizens.

[Strips]

- see Anatoly Klesov "History of the Jews."

Made fun of

Klesov is an American biochemist, specialist in the field of polymer composite materials, biomedicine, enzymatic catalysis.

But not a geneticist this shows what its results are worth:

Specialists in the field of population genetics, history, anthropology, ethnology and linguistics qualified Klesov's DNA genealogy as pseudoscience

Would you read about him for the sake of decency

[Operator]

Do not be stupid - Klesov in his history of the Jews received a prestigious award from the Jews.

If you read in the toilet information about Klyosov, then this is your personal problem.

[Dalailama]

This is all of course great, only these haplogroups are not transmitted along the female line.

[Operator]

Naturally - for men.

[Dalailama]

A man in this matter can be of any nationality.

[Operator]

And what, in the composition of Russians and Jews, ethnically faithful men have long ended?

[Dalailama]

Not. It was about the fact that these tests do not make sense.

[Geisenberg]

Quote: Shahno

You wanted to say the third time ...

Generally wanted to say "last"

[Tramp1812]

Quote: Geisenberg

Quote: Shahno

You wanted to say the third time ...

Generally wanted to say "last"

Rabinovich, how are you feeling? - And do not expect!

[svp67]

Quote: Cat in Boots

in the current conditions and with modern weapons, the second time may not slip

Well, isn’t the death of millions of people worth such an experiment? None of those, none of them will fail, no matter what super-duper weapons are used ...

[Puss in Boots]

it’s you who are interested in stripes, experiments on millions, it’s in their honor

[katana]

Quote: Cat Racecourse

there are doubts about Israel, there are so many enemies around , and given the frankly Zionist rhetoric of the latter, in recent years only growing, they can only increase!

If the Jews wanted, they would have long ago resolved the issue of the Palestinian Arabs - the Arab countries themselves have repeatedly given the Jews such an excuse and did not have to come up with various reasons with the fictional Hezbollah fighters - the Arabs have fought against the Jews and the Palestinian more than once throughout the history of Israel Arabs could be easily deported from the country.

[Arameev]

Quote: svp67

Destroy Palestine is NOT POSSIBLE ...

here, personally, I absolutely agree. it is impossible to destroy what is not.

[To be or not to be]

Guys let's be friends
All nations have the right to life !!

[Spartanez300]

That the Jews have no brains left.

[Vasyan1971]

Quote: Zaurbek

It has been asking for a long time ... Why such an unstable place near by?

Is this said about Israel?

[Maz]

I thought for a long time why they hadn’t killed yet. He came to the conclusion: a smoldering conflict is beneficial for Israel. It’s not funny, but the Palestinians, too

[Maki Avellevich]

Meanwhile, former Israeli defense minister Moshe Ya'alon said that for modern Israel, the danger of Hezbollah, Iran, Hamas and even ISIS (*) is less than the danger of corruption at the highest levels. It is reported by the portal AMN.

he smells the smell of elections. if the door gets to power the plate will change.

and the article and its sources laugh chickens

[GRF]

With all ex, from SGA in particular, this happens, which speaks more about his sincerity at the moment)

[Spec]

Damn leg will break ... Everything was piled into a heap.

[Mavrikiy]

US intelligence agencies are pushing the Israeli army to the complete destruction of Palestine
Well done USA. Once solved the problem of Israel. There is no Israel, they say it’s their own fault, the war has been unleashed, and the United States has nothing to do with it.

[donavi49]

Why? Who will destroy him? So who will fit for Palestine now?
Assad - that’s how he’s also going to unlink Daraa to the Dutch, which Israel has been looking at with interest for a long time.
Iraq is unlikely.
Iran - there will be a scream, but a Shiite campaign in Jerusalem is unlikely. In any case, such a campaign will cause a large-scale srach of Shiite Sunnis, a war in the desert with the Saudis.
The Saudis are not. Maximum sanction.
Jordan - King Abdal has long understood, it is better to sit on the priest exactly, so more whole.
Egypt - Sisi has her own problems with the carriage and relatively good relations with Israel.
Turkey - Erdogan has already threatened to sever relations with Israel and the United States - if Jerusalem is recognized. The result is nothing. So it is now. He is the master of his word in general.

Therefore, for Palestine, the maximum hezah really fit.

[Spec]

And if the legitimately elected president of Palestine, inspired by the success of Assad, asks our president, for example?

[donavi49]

Putin politely will refuse.

In any case, the legally elected leadership of Israel will call Kushner, Ivanka will come running to Tramp with tears and everything will turn around.

[Spec]

Well, yes, that’s logical. But through Assad, it’s quite possible for itself to deliver a pair of Buryat horse-submarine armored air divisions to Hezbollah, and Iran will throw a dozen or two SKADs.

[Strips]

Quote: Spez

But through Assad, it’s quite possible for itself to deliver a pair of Buryat equestrian submarine armored divisions to Hezbollah, and Iran will throw a dozen or two SKADs.

And there will be no more Lebanon ...
And then it will fly to both Assad and Iran.
Given that Hezbollah is already in the Lebanese government, then starting a war against Israel, Israel will believe that not only Hezbollah’s terrorists started the war, but Lebanon itself will be right and will cry Lebanon with bitter tears along with Hezbollah’s terrorists.

Do not forget about the news of recent months, where missile defense of the Sling of David and Hets-3 are adopted and in service with more than 10 LCD.

[Spec]

The events of recent months show that an easy walk may not work ...

[Strips]

Quote: Spez

The events of recent months show that an easy walk may not work ...

It won’t be easy, but a Hezbollah gun can only shoot one more time.
Israel has explicitly stated that Hezbollah’s participation in the Lebanese government makes Hezbollah’s attack on Israel a declaration of war by Lebanon to Israel.

[Spec]

But still, it’s better not to provoke. Another batch will not benefit anyone.

[igor67]

Quote: Spez

And if the legitimately elected president of Palestine, inspired by the success of Assad, asks our president, for example?

First you need to hold the presidential election, Abu Mazen does not hold elections and outstated his term, then you need to proclaim the state itself, with its attributes the flag, anthem and money. And not to sit on the shekels,

[Spec]

This is all there. The election of the president, IMHO, is an internal affair of the state if it is not under someone else’s protectorate. Any currency, even checks from McDonald's, is also entitled to choose a currency.

[igor67]

Quote: Spez

This is all there. The election of the president, IMHO, is an internal affair of the state if it is not under someone else’s protectorate. Any currency, even checks from McDonald's, is also entitled to choose a currency.

well, according to their legislation, elections should be held in my opinion every 5 years, God forbid, memory has been held since 2005 or 2006, which is no longer legal, the state has not been proclaimed dear, it’s still Palestinian autonomy. what kind of autonomy do you understand, we pay them the salary, completely and to all Palestinian state employees and the same Abu Mazen, it’s so convenient for him, probably, electricity and other services at our expense, we have to maintain our state at our own expense, and that's another story

[Spec]

It seems to me that Russia or Chechnya have agreed a little more favorably ?!

[igor67]

Quote: Spez

It seems to me that Russia or Chechnya have agreed a little more favorably ?!

you have Chechnya at hand and this is a separate geographic formation, we all live together. only Gaza like Chechnya, there are no Jews there. More precisely, the Israelis

[Spec]

Until the beginning of the nineties, they lived in Chechnya mixed up. Only then everything was so mixed up that the spray flew all over the country ...

[Tramp1812]

This is fantastic son!

[Spec]

Never say never.

[voyaka uh]

"Saudis - no. Maximum sanction" ////

The Saudis want to be friends with Israel, but the rest do not give them.
If Saudia does not make a qualitative leap into modernity now, it will perish.
The King of Saudi Arabia recently said bluntly to Palestinian Abbas:
"Enough of you ... I ... Leave Jerusalem alone." The king is young and energetic -
he realized that with all the 70 year old anti-israeli crap arab
countries fly off the road of technological progress.
And Hezbollah recently the League of Arab countries unanimously
proclaimed a terrorist organization. Israel did not ask
they themselves guessed about it.

[oldzek]

Eh! The point is not who wants what in Israel and around it. The thing is what they want beyond a large puddle! but I really don’t like that it will be quiet around him. Yes, and in general, the more noise away from Washington, the better for him. IMHO

[Tramp1812]

Quote: svp67

Quote: Zaurbek

It has been asking for a long time ... Why such an unstable place near by?

Destroying Palestine is NOT POSSIBLE ... Just like Israel. Does history really teach anyone or anything?

It is impossible to destroy Israel, because there is a country and the Jewish people. Palestine is also impossible to destroy, because it is impossible to destroy what is not. Arabs are a people, but there is no such people as Palestinians and never was, as there were no Iraqis, Syrians, Yemenis, etc. Although, with the consent of the Arabs living in the "territories" it is possible to artificially create the so-called Palestine, or join these territories to Jordan, or Egypt. Or, what is happening, continues to sit on the neck of Israel forever and shout to the whole world about its goal: to create its own state and destroy Israel. The guys are pretty good, I'll tell you. In general, the story of Palestine reminds me great of the history of Soviet Russia. When the 14 union republics lived and did well, at the expense of Moscow, and then they began to shout that they did not see more tyranny and oppression. While in the RSFSR there was nothing to eat. Well, the Union fell apart so what? Better in the same Tajikistan? The same story is here. Only Arabs in the "territories" are more cunning. Shouting is shouting, but the example of Gaza for them was not in vain.

[svp67]

Quote: Rogue1812

Palestine is also impossible to destroy, because it is impossible to destroy what is not

That is, the description of Palestine in your "Old Testament books" is a lie?

[Shahno]

As far as I know, Palestine is a country of the Philistines, conquered by the Proto-Jewish tribes. Speaking of biblical times
Arabs appeared and conquered the lands of ancient Palestine a little later.
Then the Jews appeared again and again conquered the lands of ancient Palestine. So for good, neither we nor the Arabs are Palestinians.

[katana]

Quote: Shahno

As far as I know, Palestine is a country of the Philistines, conquered by the Proto-Jewish tribes. Speaking of biblical times
Arabs appeared and conquered the lands of ancient Palestine a little later.
Then the Jews appeared again and again conquered the lands of ancient Palestine. So for good, neither we nor the Arabs are Palestinians.

When the Arabs seized Palestine in the 7th century, then you Jews were no longer there. All your complaints should be sent to the Roman Senate.

[Strips]

Quote: katana

When in the 7th century the Arabs took possession of Palestine, then you Jews were no longer there.

Jews never left Palestine. Learn mate part

[svp67]

Quote: Tiras

Jews never left Palestine. Learn mate part

A small part of them. The most orthodox, but also the weakest and powerless.

[Do not care]

Palestine is the name of a geographical area. A people called the Palestinians - does not exist as there is no state called Palestine.
For example, there is the Urals in Russia. Now tell me where is the Ural people and where is the state called the Urals?

[katana]

Quote: Do not care

Palestine is the name of a geographical area. A people called the Palestinians - does not exist as there is no state called Palestine.
For example, there is the Urals in Russia. Now tell me where is the Ural people and where is the state called the Urals?

Sorry, but based on your logic, a state like Canada or Australia does not have to be, because it is a geographical concept, and not a separate people.

[Do not care]

Quote: katana

Quote: Do not care

Palestine is the name of a geographical area. A people called the Palestinians - does not exist as there is no state called Palestine.
For example, there is the Urals in Russia. Now tell me where is the Ural people and where is the state called the Urals?

Sorry, but based on your logic, a state like Canada or Australia does not have to be, because it is a geographical concept, and not a separate people.

Based on my logic, there are three separate concepts: geography, ethnicity, and state borders. There is no logical connection between them. But there is only the prevailing state of things which is the starting point for negotiations (or military operations) if either side is dissatisfied with this.

[GRF]

Quote: Do not care

. Now tell me where is the Ural people and where is the state called the Urals?

SGA is already working on it, with our connivance)

[Tramp1812]

I do not want to seem smarter than I am, but I have to. The Philistines, to whose descendants the Arabs of the "territories" are now trying to classify themselves, in fact have never had anything to do with the Arab ethnic group. Their homeland is the island of Crete (Greece), from where they fled, in connection with the events known to all first-graders. Similarly, modern Syria has nothing to do with the Assyrian empire. However, it was called .... Jordan turned out to be the most honest. They did not have the name of the country at all (it never was, like the other Arab countries, since the homeland of the Arabs is Arabia) they decided to be called by the name of the river flowing. As for example Poltava, located on the river Ltava, or Volgograd. But Jordan even emphasized that its roots are not in the territory where it is located, but in Arabia. Therefore, it is now called magnificent: the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan. By the name of Hashim - the uncle of Mohamed, who raised an orphan. And the kings of Jordan are the direct descendants of Hashim. The only people, besides the Jews, of course, are now living in their historical homeland, the Egyptians. By the way, having nothing to do with the Arab ethnic group. Maybe that's why they made peace with Israel. This is if the Old Testament books.

[katana]

Not only in Russia it was bad with food - ask your forum member under the name Professor - he lived in the Armenian SSR, the city of Leninakan, now the city of Gyumri, before moving to his historical homeland. By the way, it is the second most populated city in the republic. He will tell you about the wonderful life in the Armenian SSR and how these republics ate poor Russian !! I’m sure you won’t believe me, but he is yours!

[GRF]

Quote: Rogue1812

Palestine is also impossible to destroy, because it is impossible to destroy what is not.

Fascists from envy and tenderness cry aside ...

[Tramp1812]

This is shallow, Khobotov.

[-ш-]

and the ironic laugh of the Indians of America

[Moskovit]

Give them independence. Take off your neck. What is the problem?

[Tramp1812]

Once upon a time, they would have done it. But the trick is that there is no one to talk to in Gaza. There, Hamas rules. And on the West Bank, negotiations are ongoing. But if the Jews are proposing specifically the conditions for creating an Arab state with guarantees for the security of Israel, then the Arabs only pretend that they are interested in forming Palestine. They always put forward conditions that simply cannot be accepted a priori by us. For example, they demand that all Palestinians and their descendants, descendants of descendants, as well as new relatives, be returned to Israel. According to their estimates, this is 3,5 million people. This is suicide for the Jewish state, including demographic. Again the question of Jerusalem. Security guarantees are not given to Israel. It is very difficult even with such a technical issue as borders. Israel was rebuilt on deserted and marshy lands redeemed by the Jewish Foundation and the Rothschilds. An undeveloped Arab state was to settle on unredeemed ones. Therefore, the most absurd borders were created in the history of mankind, when the territories of one state enter geographically by internal enclaves into another state. This is a real layer cake. Lieberman proposed transferring all areas with a predominantly Jewish population to Israel, and Israeli with a predominant Arab to future Palestine. This would align the borders. Where there! I repeat once again: these "unfortunate" sticks cannot be driven out of Israel. Well, they don’t want to.

[Moskovit]

An interesting approach. Israel can accept all Jews, but Palestine is not Palestinians). Is it really impossible to agree for 70 years

[Tramp1812]

Quote: Moskovit

An interesting approach. Israel can accept all Jews, but Palestine is not Palestinians). Is it really impossible to agree for 70 years

Yes, let them accept, even with the Chukchi, with herds of reindeer. This is not about that. They require so-called "Palestinian refugees" returned precisely to those places on the territory of Israel that they left in 1949 under the influence of Arab propaganda. Say, so as not to suffer from the onset of the victorious Arab armies. Well, all this fun company, for a couple - three days, as they thought, moved so to speak. Well, who could know that the victorious Arab armies would be completely defeated, then for the first time, but as it turned out, not the last time. Here the Circassians, not knowing the outcome of the war for Independence, unconditionally sided with the Jews, taking an active part in the hostilities. They live where they lived, and happily ever after. Druze, Armenians kept neutrality. Also did not fail. But the Jews don’t abandon their own. 800 thousand Jewish refugees from Arab countries, persecuted and deprived of property, Israel, then itself in need of everything, accepted.

[Hurricane70]

"The terrorist war against Syria, aims to pave the way for the implementation of the decision to recognize Jerusalem as the capital of the Israeli occupation. The Americans and Israelis continue to support ISIS (* banned in Russia) and Jebhat al-Nusra (*). .. "
What they talked about more than once! In response, they heard the nonsense of the Professor and Co., and even that ... like him ... of Krasnodar, some historical arguments here brought ...
Everything is simpler, comrades, everything is much simpler! Zionism tied these two countries tightly!

[Tramp1812]

Long live Zionism: the national liberation movement put an end to the two thousand year exile of the Jewish people, their suffering, oppression, humiliation, discrimination by the anti-Semites. Hurray comrades!

[-ш-]

ohhh this nagging again

[Strips]

Quote: Hurricane70

Americans and Israelis continue to support ISIS militants (* banned in Russia) and Jebhat al-Nusra (*) ... "

Lies. Moreover, constant, without evidence.

Quote: Hurricane70

What they talked about more than once! In response, they heard the nonsense of the Professor and Co., and even that ... like him ... of Krasnodar, some historical arguments here brought ...

Do you have anything but empty words and hatred?

[Dart]

Wee there is another Krasnodar campaign.

[Machete]

They will begin to destroy Palestine, they will provoke all the Arabs of the region.
Israel will be very thin. Do they need it?

[Jedi]

Quote: Machete

Do they need it?

Maybe it’s not necessary, but I want to grind to the teeth.

[igor67]

Quote: Machete

They will begin to destroy Palestine, they will provoke all the Arabs of the region.
Israel will be very thin. Do they need it?

you just can’t imagine what Israel is, it’s not that they always lay out a map of changes in Palestinian territory, the Arabs lived in their villages and live, I moved to the city of Karmiel to live, about 50 thousand people, about 250 thousand live around the city Arabs, like in the city itself, I have Arabs neighbors. Two Arab villages are visible from the window and several times a day I listen to yelling in the speakers from the minarets of Alah Akbar. We live here in the shuffle, we work together, half of the medical staff are doctors, lawyers , policemen are Arabs. In order to understand you need not to live here a lot and see with your own eyes, and not to listen to someone's nonsense. The same forum member under the nickname Maz who lived in Israel and drives to the state, only because he received less salary the same Arabs. I have less than twice as much cham as the Arabs working with me and what should I come with a knife and cut them for it?

[Livonetc]

There are no favorites.
We all walk under God.
And under one.
The rest are misconceptions that do not allow human life.

[GRF]

Quote: Livonetc

There are no favorites.
We all walk under God.
And under one.
The rest are misconceptions that do not allow human life.

Everyone believes in their god ...
And is He the one big question
People behave too differently, for the sake of each, their only ...

[kpotr]

"Israeli occupation", how does that sound!

[rotmistr60]

Quote: Maki Avellievich

and the article and its sources laugh chickens

The expected reaction of the most knowledgeable. As soon as an article about Israeli lawlessness, joint support of terrorists in Syria with the United States, then immediately either "this is a fake" or "chickens to laugh." At the same time, with "the deepest knowledge" of everything that concerns Russia, they try to criticize and teach to live. This is what chickens really laugh!

[voyaka uh]

In this particular case (about the American special services) - a fake.
Like most other materials from this guy from Aleppo.
Have you not really paid attention to this? None of his news is confirmed.
He comes up with "online news" without leaving his home.

[rotmistr60]

materials from this guy from Aleppo.

But for some reason, the “guy” from the “English Abservatory” in the west was not only believed, but considered true in the last resort. And from your colleagues on the site often accused Russia of assaulting Alepo and "chemical attacks." Don't you find that these are double standards?

[voyaka uh]

Unreliable sources were cited by both parties:
both the coalition and the Russians.
In Aleppo, Hama, Homs, chemical weapons - gas bomb - were used by militants.
The Syrian army also used chemical weapons - barrel bombs - in other places, not in Aleppo.

[oldzek]

fake or not fake who knows him, but the fact that behind a large puddle diligently maintain tension in the Middle East is a fact.

[Shahno]

The Danish Ministry of Foreign Affairs is ceasing to provide financial assistance, and is also introducing a more stringent process to verify the distribution of funds transferred by Palestinian NGOs, as reported on Friday, December 22.
This decision was made after the Israeli Ministry of Strategic Planning provided Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu with information that European funds are transferring money to NGOs related to terrorist organizations and propagandizing the Israeli boycott.

After that, Minister of Strategic Planning Gilad Erdan turned to Danish Foreign Minister Anders Samuelsen and insisted that the kingdom stop funding these organizations

Yesterday, Samuelsen issued a communiqué informing him of the great importance he attaches to the proper use of aid allocated from the treasury, and for this reason earlier this year the Foreign Ministry began a comprehensive analysis of the funds proposed by the Palestinian NGO.

The Minister assured that the predominant part of Danish aid, which has been frozen in recent months, will be returned to the treasury. As Minister Samuelsen made clear, many Palestinian organizations that today receive support from Denmark will lose it.

[Operator]

voyaka uh,
You are lying like an unfaithful Jew

It is recorded in the Torah that the first time Jerusalem was completely destroyed by the Babylonian king Nebuchadnezzar in 586 BC, including the first Temple. After that, on the site of the city for 70 years was a wasteland.

The second time Jerusalem was conquered by the Egyptian king Ptolemy I in 320 BC and after that it is included as a provincial city into a state with the capital Damascus under the control of the Greek Seleucid dynasty. The Greeks forbid Judaism, open their pagan temple in the building of the second Temple. Only in 164 BC Jews expel the Greeks from Jerusalem as a result of the Maccabean revolt.

For the third time, Jews were expelled from Jerusalem in 135 CE. the Romans, after which the city was renamed Eliya Capitolina, and the second Temple destroyed.

In the year 313 A.D. Roman emperor Constantine makes Christianity the state religion and restores the name Jerusalem.

In 628 A.D. Arabs conquer Jerusalem and build their mosques in the wasteland from the second Temple.

In 1947 A.D. The UN General Assembly establishes an international zone under the control of the UN in the territory of Jerusalem. The UN Security Council (including the United States) has repeatedly confirmed this decision and demanded that Israel cease its occupation of the International Zone.

The latest US decision to recognize the International Zone as the capital of Israel contradicts the decision of the UN General Assembly and the UN Security Council.

[BARKHAN]

Quote: Operator

You are lying like an unfaithful Jew

Briefly and on the case. I just listed the events. I want to see how the local historians will respond. In general, today is a good discussion, I enjoy reading, drinking coffee ... Such a cozy, Sunday skirmish ... with sloth and without insults.
My opinion is that. Let the strongest win. Yes, it has always been in history, it will be so. Whoever wins will be the master of the earth. The rest of verbiage. "We bear our right at the tips of our swords" -Brenn.

[Operator]

The unilateral recognition of the International Zone as the capital of Israel is a clear confirmation of the fact that Trump is our person in Washington

Nothing else could lead to the political isolation of the USA and especially Israel, which suddenly became a rogue country - the last allies: Turkey, Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Jordan, Britain, France and Germany were forced to turn their backs on it.

[BARKHAN]

Quote: Operator

The unilateral recognition of the International Zone as the capital of Israel is a clear confirmation of the fact that Trump is our person in Washington
Nothing else could lead to the political isolation of the USA and especially Israel, which suddenly became a rogue country - the last allies: Turkey, Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Jordan, Britain, France and Germany were forced to turn their backs on it.

I support. And I think that this is not enough. In general, Trump is simply obliged to fulfill any senile-delusional fantasy of his brain and any whim of Ivanka. Without stopping at anything, and not looking at laws with prejudice.

[Arameev]

Quote: Operator

The UN General Assembly establishes an international zone under the control of the UN in the territory of Jerusalem. The UN Security Council (including the United States) has repeatedly confirmed this decision and demanded that Israel cease its occupation of the International Zone.
The latest US decision to recognize the International Zone as the capital of Israel contradicts the decision of the UN General Assembly and the UN Security Council.

for sure! contradicts! as soon as, according to the decisions of the same UN, the Russian Federation will return Crimea to the land, Jerusalem will become an international zone)))

[Operator]

Decisions of the UN General Assembly must be confirmed by the UN Security Council.
In the case of the International Zone, there is confirmation, in the case of Crimea - no.

[Arameev]

Like, if there is a confirmation of the Sat - will you return ?!

[Operator]

Naturally, if the representative of the Russian Federation in the Security Council does not use the veto.

[Arameev]

that's it! you simply block the unwanted decision of the Security Council and crap you with the opinion of the "world community" expressed at the UN General Assembly.

[Operator]

We will not “just block” - we will block by right the winner in the Second World War.

[Arameev]

and we, by right of conqueror in the six-day war, own all of Jerusalem.
pi.si By the way, this is your "right of the winner" obtained including the blood of my father, who fought for four years in the ranks of the Red Army

[Dalailama]

Well, not the Americans ... did Israel defeat everything "international" there, or just Arabs?
in halacha?

[Operator]

International law is the UN Charter, according to it Israel is an aggressor.

Damn, if all of Israel is the “winner”, then who is the Russian Air Force regiment — the “super winner”?

[Arameev]

Quote: Operator

.
Damn, if all of Israel is the “winner”, then who is the Russian Air Force regiment — the “super winner”?

that’s why, everything concerning Israel, is evaluated by you according to some special criteria ?! Dear Israel, the entire winner is exactly as much as the winner is the entire Soviet people. "people and army are one" - is this a Russian saying?

[Operator]

What are you all about the victory of the Russian people in their Patriotic War (Stalin, copyright): the Jews have a completely different fatherland - the “historical homeland”, is not it?

[Arameev]

Quote: Operator

What are you all about the victory of the Russian people in their Patriotic War (Stalin, copyright): the Jews have a completely different fatherland - the “historical homeland”, is not it?

among the Jews, yes. but I am a Russian Jew and my homeland is Russia. But the fatherland is Israel. for me they are equivalent. as for the victory of the "Russian people" .... you know, today (since the USSR has sunk into oblivion), to say so is at least to speak half the truth. victory was gained sovietby the people. and this does not detract from the role of the Russian people. By the way, you started talking about the “right of the winner” and “your victory”.

[Operator]

Russian Jews - an oxymoron like "fried ice", you wanted to say "Soviet Jews".

The USSR is just one of the state formations of the Russian people. Before the USSR, we had the Russian Land, the Grand Duchy of Moscow, the Russian Kingdom, the Russian Empire, the Russian Republic, the RSFSR, and after it the Russian Federation.

Once again - the Great Patriotic War was the domestic war of the Russian (Ukrainian, Belarusian) people, all the other peoples of the USSR were only its allies.

Homeland / Fatherland in the supermarket do not choose.

[Arameev]

Quote: Operator

Russian Jews - an oxymoron like "fried ice", you wanted to say "Soviet Jews".

no dear, I said exactly what I wanted to say. if in your perception this sounds ridiculous - then this, sorry, is the problem of your perception

The USSR is just one of the state formations of the Russian people.

that's it)))) that's why I say-Russian Jew, not Soviet. you are not noticing it, contradict yourself))

Once again - the Great Patriotic War was the domestic war of the Russian (Ukrainian, Belarusian) people, all the other peoples of the USSR were only its allies.

do not blaspheme !!! the war affected all the peoples of the USSR. and they did not separate themselves. the allies then are the Anglo-Saxons. although this statement is controversial.

Homeland / Fatherland in the supermarket do not choose.

listen ... I don’t know your age ... stop lecturing and saying truisms)))

[Shahno]

Sometimes there are people who view the whole world through glass test tubes. And I can’t give this a mark. Just a fact.

[Operator]

Indeed, there are Russian Jews - these are Hasidim living in Russia, but you do not belong to them, because you support the idea of ​​a spheroconical "historical homeland" and live not where you were born.

Every Russian Russian, Russian Jew, Russian Tatar, etc. there is only one homeland - Russia.

PS About lecturing - Sephardic (Arie Deri) will teach you the "historical homeland" to love

[Arameev]

Quote: Operator

Indeed, there are Russian Jews - these are Hasidim living in Russia, but you do not belong to them, because you support the idea of ​​a spheroconical "historical homeland" and live not where you were born.

you are talking about something that you have a distorted (I don’t know what or by whom) idea. Hasidim is only a small part of the whole. not all Jewish Hasidim. Russians were called all Russian-speaking Jews outside the USSR / Russia. and as you call us - this is yours, purely personal))

Every Russian Russian, Russian Jew, Russian Tatar, etc. there is only one homeland - Russia.

impose your own look again))

PS About lecturing - Sephardic (Arie Deri) will teach you the "historical homeland" to love

I myself sfaradi))) so what? Arye Deri is a rogue (do you have few crooks in politics?) And for me there is no authority at all.

[Operator]

That is what the Hasidim, in contrast to the Jews, do not limit their circle to Jews and do not consider Israel "their historical homeland." Their religious center is not the Egyptian Sinai in Asia, but the Russian Lubavitch in Europe.

Hasid is not only an ethnic Jew, but a Jew in the understanding of Hasidim is not only a Jew by religion.

Envy Russian Hasidim

[Arameev]

Quote: Operator

That is what the Hasidim, in contrast to the Jews, do not limit their circle to Jews and do not consider Israel "their historical homeland." Their religious center is not the Egyptian Sinai in Asia, but the Russian Lubavitch in Europe.

absolute nonsense! Hasidim are the same Jews, just more stubborn in matters of faith. Lubavich, Uman is just the burial place of the leaders - founders of Hasidism
and their center is no longer there.

Envy Russian Hasidim

))))

[Operator]

Judaism forbids the admission of non-Jews to the Jewish community; Hasidism encourages.

The first religion is racial, the second is not.

In this aspect, Hasidism completely coincides with Christianity with its canon: "there is neither Greek nor Jew."

Non-racial religions are supported in Russia - Vladimir Putin personally opened the Hasidic Center for Tolerance and the Jewish Museum in Moscow.

[Arameev]

Quote: Operator

Judaism forbids the admission of non-Jews to the Jewish community; Hasidism encourages.

wrong. Neither Judaism, nor even Hasidism (as a trend in Judaism) prohibits the acceptance of non-Jews into the community. in Judaism, the prohibition of missionary work is yes. what does it mean? you cannot persuade a person to accept Judaism. Moreover, a person who expressed a desire to go into Judaism should be discouraged from this step, explaining to him the difficulty of observing all the covenants and prohibitions of which the Torah 613t. this should be done for at least three years and only if a person is firm in his intentions and after this period has not abandoned the intention - he will be allowed to study ...

The first religion is racial, the second is not.

once again, Hasidism is a trend in Judaism, the essence of which is personal righteousness ... in short, we will not delve into scholastic reasoning that is inappropriate here. most important: hasidism = judaism. both of them have nothing to do with racial separation.

In this aspect, Hasidism completely coincides with Christianity with its canon: "there is neither Greek nor Jew."

same mistake! Hasidism does not oppose Judaism))

Non-racial religions are supported in Russia - Vladimir Putin personally opened the Hasidic Center for Tolerance and the Jewish Museum in Moscow.

)))) the word Jew itself (as the name of a nation) is absent in Hebrew. we call ourselves Bnei Israel or am Israel, that is, the sons of Israel or the people of Israel, and we all are Jewish, that is, adherents of Judaism. the word "Judaism" itself - from the word "yehud" - the unity and name of Yehud of the same root)))

[Operator]

The ban on missionary work in Judaism is valid only for non-Jews, i.e. on a racial basis - such as "not a God-chosen people."
The permission for missionary work in Hasidism for non-Jews is a canon. In this regard, Hasidism differs from Judaism in the same way as Catholicism from Orthodoxy (due to the difference in the canon of the dual unity or trinity of the Lord God).

In Hebrew - "sons of Israel", in Russian - "Jews", in English - "jews", in Polish - "żydzi", etc.

[Arameev]

Quote: Operator

The ban on missionary work in Judaism is valid only for non-Jews, it follows that your statement
those. on a racial basis - such as "not a God-chosen people."
The permission for missionary work in Hasidism for non-Jews is a canon.

))) What is the very concept of "missionary work"? "Missionary work (from lat. Missio - premise, commission) is one of the forms of activity of religious organizations, aimed at the conversion of unbelievers or representatives of other religions.".from this (considering Hasidism = Judaism) it follows that your statement is not true. missionary work (that is, simply speaking, agitation, in words or actions, to the adoption of Judaism) is under a total ban! another thing if the Hasid propagates his views among Jews - non-Hasidim. but you understand that this is something else?)))

In this regard, Hasidism differs from Judaism in the same way as Catholicism from Orthodoxy (due to the difference in the canon of the dual unity or trinity of the Lord God).

read the above))

In Hebrew - "sons of Israel", in Russian - "Jews", in English - "jews", in Polish - "żydzi", etc.

this is the reason for your misunderstanding))
the world around us, perceives us as a nation, in our own perception (at least from the point of view of tradition), we, the descendants of 12 brothers, as a single family + a common religion for us all (and in many ways, determining) religion. (meaning the very name of Yechudim is united, single) that is, a Jew (in your understanding, ethnically) is not such for us if he is not of Jewish faith. Moreover, even if a person, having a proven ethnic belonging to our people, indicates his other religion, he automatically loses the right to repatriation. (atheists do not fall under this rule) and are forever excluded from the people, even though he is ethnically thrice “Jew”))) in short, everything is complicated)))))

[Operator]

Do not put a shadow on the fence - we distinguish Jews from non-Jews without problems

[Arameev]

Quote: Operator

Do not put a shadow on the fence - we distinguish Jews from non-Jews without problems:

for God's sake! only for us they may not be Jews. )) understand at last: they are not born a Jew, they become one. ...

[chidoryan]

Again, local anti-Semites rush about with their populace on the Jewish question. Relax the rolls, the Jews did not destroy, have tried many times. But it turns out that Russian campaigns can be overcome by programs on Ren TV and other nonsense from the Internet, it can be seen how the local contingent is turning into stupid cattle who cannot think with their own heads. I am an internationalist and my friends are all adequate people, even more Jewish, even Arabs, even blacks. And people like me, too, will not work out, common sense will eventually win and Russia will become a country with a different, human face.

[Maki Avellevich]

Quote: chidoryan

I am an internationalist

internationalists / cosmopolitans disappear first because they do not belong to the clan / people / nation and therefore their survival in the event of a cataclysm depends only on the ability to move quickly.

about "with a human face", it is difficult to imagine what it means, do you have an example?

[Spec]

I am an internationalist and my friends are all adequate people, even more Jewish, even Arabs, even blacks.

Separately, yes. But try to swell somehow in a mixed company ... The third glass will rise on a bloody knife.

[chidoryan]

The stabbing will be just the same between the various nationalist imbeciles. Between my friends of different nationalities such problems never arise. For us, the main issues of personal and professional development, philosophical issues, discussions of scientific achievements and issues of art. National issues are in last place for this is the lot of cave animals. My opinion is that I do not want to offend anyone. We are all primates, but someone is trying to get ahead, develop, and someone remains a flock of macaques.

[Spec]

Cosmopolitan, then ... Well, I have no more questions. But try to postpone somewhere in my memory what I wrote above. Do not pull the tiger by the mustache, otherwise the hot blood heated by alcohol can suddenly awaken national pride or religious intolerance. And it’s really bad, if at the same time.

[Maki Avellevich]

Quote: chidoryan

We are all primates, but someone is trying to get ahead, develop, and someone remains a flock of macaques.

even an advanced macaque that moves too far and breaks away from the pack will be eaten up by a jaguar that does not understand anything in Hegel’s writings. nature sir.

I also love a good conversation with friends, but I remember that the time is not far off when I and they will take up arms and go to water the brothers in mind. (accounted for already).

do not even think for a moment that you can sit out the cataclysm in a warm apartment listening to jazz and savoring Lao Tse with like-minded people.

[chidoryan]

If it turns around, I will also pick up a weapon and go to fight. But until it comes to this, I will try my best to explain to people that enmity is unproductive, that only for a small part of the annual US defense aphid of China, we would have mastered thermonuclear fusion and solved many other problems, we should deal with this, and not bite one another friend by ethnicity.

[Spec]

just do not believe it, I am also against force methods, especially with regard to disputes over whose god is cooler. When such disputes go on in the kitchen, even in a slightly warmed state, it is not possible to cross the line, but when a neighbor bitch intervenes and begins to teach family life with his underbelly, it’s not far from trouble. Projecting the situation onto interracial, interfaith and interethnic relations, burdened by historical hostility, useful resources falling into the field of vision of deprived or simply greedy “neighbors”, it is obvious that thanks to the intervention of third parties, former allied friends begin to frantically tear each other's throats. A striking example is Erdogan and Assad.
I wanted to say something ... If you go around sharp corners and chew snot, then not only will your enemies not take you seriously, but your friends will not listen. And it will be wrapped, it will necessarily be wrapped. This is the essence of primates, whether it be a macaque or a gorilla, no difference.

[filatik]

Fear God to fight on earth gentlemen! For this, God will punish America and those who are with them, for the fire of a super volcano on bloody land will wake

[Maki Avellevich]

Quote: filatik

Fear God to fight on earth gentlemen!

as Osho said, the presence of Gd in the outhouse is no less than the temple, since it is everywhere.

[Dalailama]

then even from the point of view of the Osho jaguars db worse than macaque
much worse.

[nikolaev]

US needs a big war in BV

[nikolaev]

“Fascism is an open terrorist dictatorship of the most reactionary, most chauvinistic, most imperialistic elements of financial capital ... Fascism is not superclass power and not the power of the petty bourgeoisie or the lumpen proletariat over financial capital. Fascism is the power of finance capital itself. This is an organization of terrorist reprisals against the working class and the revolutionary part of the peasantry and intelligentsia. “Fascism in foreign policy is chauvinism in its most rude form, cultivating zoological hatred of other nations.”
Source: http://rusvesna.su/news/1514112154

[nikolaev]

it is absolutely clear why the United States and Ukraine for the glorification of Nazism !!! This is a necessary tool for keeping the power off! There can be no talk of any democracy, human rights in the capitalist world !!!

[nikolaev]

the struggle against fascism (the struggle for life on planet Earth) = the struggle against the power of financial capital = the struggle against Jewish financial capital

[Shahno]

Aron Zaavi,
It's useless. He does not know Egyptian words. Until he learns, he does not believe. So you have to hear all this.

[avros]

What? Where? When? Palestine ??? There wasn’t, and cannot be, Home to Saudi Arabia, kindly with things to go

[bmv04636]

According to the Ministry of Economic Development, in 2016 in the Jewish Autonomous Region the gross regional product grew by 7,1%. This is the best indicator among the subjects of the Russian Federation. In second place is the Republic of Crimea. Of the Far Eastern regions, the Amur Region with the indicator of 4,5% also entered the top ten.
The positive dynamics of the EAO development continues in 2017. So, in the ranking on the growth of industrial production in January - May 2017. The Jewish Autonomous Region took the 2nd place out of 85 regions and became the best in this indicator in the Far East. The study was conducted by RIA Rating analysts based on Rosstat data.
Something like this

[voyaka uh]

hrych,
"Guys drag some candlestick and what?" ///

In this post your level is very clearly visible: the dense, militant ignorance of the representative of "alternative history".
Not about the Triumphal Arch of Emperor Titus, erected in honor of the victory over the Jews in the Judean War,
nor about the ancient Jewish symbol (and the national emblem of Israel) to the Menorah You, of course, have not heard.

[Dalailama]

this is not a candlestick, this is a Hanukkah trident ...

[Dalailama]

although no - the number of horns is neither there nor there.

[high]

A crazy article, and so many comments ...
US intelligence agencies are pushing the Israeli army to the complete destruction of Palestine[i] [/ i]
Israel ,, destroys ,, Palestine, annually transferring PA 200 million dollars and electricity, for which PA does not pay ...
With this money, the PA contains special services protecting the terrorist Authority of the PA from more aggressive Hamas terrorists ...
For example, a coup was made in Gaza, Hamas killed the stooges of Abu Mazen, brother of Arafat, general of the special services of the PA, pulled out naked and torn to pieces ...
Paradox: Abu Mazen and the King of Jordan exist thanks to the Israeli Army ..., alas, Israel is forced to do this .... a holy place does not happen empty ...

[Dalailama]

Quote: alta

US intelligence forces push the Israeli army to the complete destruction of Palestine [i] [/ i]

But what if?
For example, if he gets tired of going around with Abu Mazen and paying these payments ...

[MOSKVITYANIN]

high Abu Mazen and the King of Jordan exist thanks to the Israeli Army ...

Follow your thoughts, otherwise nonsense is obtained. It turns out not thanks if:

there was a coup in Gaza Hamas slaughtered the stewards of Abu Mazen, brother of Arafat, general of the PA special services, pulled out naked and torn to pieces ...

Clumsy work in the psychological processing of gullible members of the forum ...

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

Israel is becoming more and more like the Third Reich, only now the Jews themselves have adopted the tactics of genocide against another people ...
I used to doubt it, but after regular shelling of the Syrian government army while it was engaged in bloody battles with terrorists, I understood everything, Israel just wants to expand its territory to include the territories of the neighbors of Palestine, Syria, Egypt and others ... Well, and the occasion can always be found or organized, though the Jewish brothers ?!

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan

Israel is becoming more and more like the Third Reich, only now the Jews themselves have adopted the tactics of genocide against another people
!

You are neutralizing the meaning of the word genocide by applying it for no reason.

[Dalailama]

reasons like were listed.

[voyaka uh]

"Israel just wants to expand its territory" ///

Russia also wants to. And not only wants - but expands (Crimea).

What about Israel? like - cards in hand in Syria ... expand. But we do not need such trouble ...
With Egypt, Jordan, Lebanon, borders are approved and internationally
recognized by them. And recognized by Israel.
With Syria - a state of war since 1948. Golan - military trophies of 1967. Annexed.
The international status is a disputed territory (like Crimea).
With Palestinians - autonomy - dividing land into security zones under agreements
Oslo 1995 Gaza is an independent Islamic state.

[Operator]

A. Privalov,
Do not worry so much about the vocabulary of the Russian language - for example, it contains the word "Aryan" in it.

It is ridiculous to watch from the height of 22000 years of the existence of our Aryan ethnic group the attempts of individual representatives of a 4000-year-old Jewish ethnic group (a hodgepodge of Semites and Hamites, seasoned with Aryans and Celts), practicing Egyptian monotheism and the Phoenician alphabet, to impersonate the basis of the universe.

Given the fact that the founder of Judaism and a Lebanese man, Moses was a descendant of the Mitannian Aryans, it turns out that it was our blood relative who created the religious foundation of both the Torah (Old Testament) and the New Testament.

[Dalailama]

Do not shoot the office.

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: GAF

Dear Khrych, advise your opponents to read Gumilyov about Khazaria. How the Jews ended up there and how they got out without leaving any archaeological evidence of their stay. Written sources only. It is useless to argue with the team.

Gumilev is not an archaeologist. He is a populist of history and a publicist.

[Servisinzhener]

For me, this is not the worst option. Than this is the endless construction of a Palestinian state and the Middle East peace process. On which for decades and generations to feed a lot of people. Everyone who wanted to create a state has long been created and spent far from decades on it. But Palestine lives on the process of creating a state and solving its problem, and therefore they will break into a cake so that this action does not stop.

[ADT]

You can’t even imagine how you got to the point!

[MOSKVITYANIN]

Quote: ADT

You can’t even imagine how you got to the point!

What are you talking about? About it:

Alestine lives on the process of creating a state and solving its problem, and therefore they will break into a cake so that this action does not stop

South Ossetia and Abkhazia have achieved their goal and the Palestinians will achieve, by returning their occupied territories to Israel or from the lands of Israel it does not matter ...

[aKtoR]

Let's just say, amer needs a conflict in this region. The fate of the temporary allies is not important.

[osoboye_mneniye]

"Such plans aim to discredit not only Hezbollah, but also the entire Palestinian resistance in the eyes of the international community. The message is that the Palestinians are supposedly ready to" rely on terrorists "in the fight against the state of Israel. This would make legitimate the widespread use of military by Israel forces against Palestine with the final elimination of any hint of statehood. "
It is the destiny of all states that do not have their own powerful army to be victims of various manipulations with the goal of their destruction. There should be only its own strong army and military support of other states. All incomprehensible armed formations will always be illegal and will always be a support for manipulations.
Therefore, the USSR and strengthened the statehood and defense of its friends. So that in the social camp such schemes were not possible.

[ADT]

Most of all, the conflict in this region is needed by that country, or by those countries that are very much dependent on oil prices, and are eager for their growth. Guess their names.
And which countries, hiding their intentions, drive the most fakes through their media and websites, directing the attention of the public in the opposite direction.

[ADT]

And what country, for decades, has been driving weapons here, writing off debts for it over and over again, if the fire of "peace" were burning here without ceasing?

[Shahno]

And these are our peace-loving and loving mineral partners. To choose ... True, at least some financial assistance and not only provide, but others are just peacekeepers.

[ADT]

I agree with you.

[MOSKVITYANIN]

Quote: Shahno

And these are our peace-loving and loving mineral partners. To choose ... True, at least some financial assistance and not only provide, but others are just peacekeepers.

Pray to your God that some peacekeepers will not nullify those who financially help ....
Good and bright people live on the 1 / 6 parts of the land and if they are not brought to sin, they will not be engaged in peacekeeping either ....
They themselves are to blame, they offended their orphans, the Arabs, with impunity, it seemed to you a little, you decided, along with the Persian monarchies, to lay the Qatari pipe in the EU, in vain ...
Now we have come to BV forever, God forbid, who, without our permission, now even unwinds the hose, the fuel truck drivers will not help you too (following the example of the Syrian company, they drive sloppy, then they pull over and turn over to the sidelines, then they hit each other .. ..) ...
The land of frightened id .... in for you is over ...

[ADT]

There is nothing to talk about around this next fake. One benefit of the discussion - those who write about the thousand-year-old Aryans, genocide, expansion of territories - go to the doctors. Through such a mismatch of reality and your unhealthy fantasies, chikotiles grow.

[Dalailama]

weapons of what quality? Do you want the Arabs to learn to do their own thing?

[MOSKVITYANIN]

ADT And which countries, hiding their intentions, drive the most fakes through their media and websites, directing the attention of the public in the opposite direction.

Which countries? What fakes? References possible?
Tie it up with your pro-American campaign, otherwise I’ll write a complaint to CNN (your employer) for your clumsy work ...

[Maz]

Quote: igor67

Quote: Spez

It seems to me that Russia or Chechnya have agreed a little more favorably ?!

you have Chechnya at hand and this is a separate geographic formation, we all live together. only Gaza like Chechnya, there are no Jews there. More precisely, the Israelis

As you go to Jerusalem from the Telaviv according to the first quiche, then look to the left before climbing to Jerusalem from the road. This is aAbu gGosh - Israeli Chechnya. All Dot Shemesh barrels are black. This means non-Jews live twice in a square. And especially look at the world tourist attraction: the mosque named after Kadyrov - Akhmet (pope). Above all buildings. Krasava. and chew on a street named after him, chew hummus, the Chechen hummus is famous ... for connoisseurs of foreign countries.

[Arzoo]

Well, to begin with, Hezbollah is not a terrorist group. And since, yes, do not care who they collaborate with.

Regarding Israel. Israel will pay dearly for all the crimes that it committed against the Palestinians.

[MOSKVITYANIN]

Definitely. The Israeli military is in the fortress of US military preparations in the BV .... the blood of the Palestinian people in the hands of Israeli Jews ....

[Maki Avellevich]

Quote: MOSKVITYANIN

Israeli soldier marching in military fortress

this sentence has already popped up on the forum ... jammed manuals?
ps vocabulary 70's

[MOSKVITYANIN]

Quote: Maki Avellevich

Quote: MOSKVITYANIN

Israeli soldier marching in military fortress

this sentence has already popped up on the forum ... jammed manuals?
ps vocabulary 70's

And that in the actions of Israeli Jews, something has changed since then regarding the Palestinian working people, there are fewer air attacks (and now on independent states, and not just on partially recognized Palestine then), there have been fewer Jewish settlements in the Palestinian lands occupied by Israeli militarism and good "Jews" (civilians) ... or maybe the patriots of the Palestine Liberation Front declared the capital of Palestine Tel Aviv ....?
Truly the "generosity and justice" of Israeli Jews knows no bounds ....
As for the training manual and the 70's, in those days you were still respected (?) Young Komsomol member and only secretly dreamed of dumping abroad (no matter where), your time struck in the 80's with “tagged”, so don’t mow here under the Israeli patriot, it’s clumsy for you how, in other things, to be a Komsomol member in due time ...
So let's end with our "sincere indignation" in an effort to visit noodles on the ears of gullible and kind members of the forum, you are warm and well fed, so as you don’t try to keep your orphans (and others pass), you are all offended by everything "progressive" humanity is sorry, gee ....

[Shahno]

Operator,
This is a very difficult question my great-grandfather could not determine. He was an Ashkenazi rabbi in Krakow. I read his diary. He could not understand what was closer to him, even at the end of his life.

[flicker]

Well, that's why Jerusalem was recognized as the capital of Israel. For a long time they kept this conflict in a smoldering state, but it seems they decided that it was time, it was time to set fire to it.
Israel wants the states to solve the Iranian problem for them, and the states want Israel to unleash war on the Arabs in the interests of the United States.
Everyone wants to fight with the wrong hands.

[MOSKVITYANIN]

The United States and the "gear" will fight the hands of the Arabs, and when it was different .....?