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Information warfare - in the studio!

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Sociologist Yevgeny Kopatko recently said one important thing: we lost the information war in Ukraine even before the Maidan, when we gave the media outlets of the country to the will of supposedly public opinion, and in fact, to the arbitrariness of our opponents, hoping for some unknown common sense of society, which will figure it out. And he won a better organized and prepared pro-Western and Bandera Maidan, in February, 2014, he force weapons designed his victory. Today, the information war has spread to Russia, and we ourselves have given Russian media platforms to this war, and again we are counting on the unknown common sense of society, and even our informational ... "opponents" who we invite to visit us as experts! We expect that they will appreciate it?




Dulcimers, Tryuhans and Kovtuns are located in our studios like at home, they take our highly scientific and venerable observers by the throat when they dare to object to them. They broadcast their own “truth”, which is one for all: Russia is an “occupier”, “aggressor”, “kills Ukrainians”, and the leaders of our programs and political scientists swallow it! Such is their “position”, we must know it! We know for a long time ...

The director (!) Karen Shakhnazarov put it once in place of Tryukhan, entered into an altercation with him, said about his rudeness, to which he smirked, almost grunted, but this is almost an isolated case! The hosts of the programs keep their neutrality and follow the “rules” of conducting disputes; they do it badly, but this is not the case.

This is not all controversies for the sake of truth, but information fights without rules, where our “opponents” seek victory at any price, albeit with a lie, and labeling. The main thing is not arguments, but a tinned throat, rhetorical tricks and experience in such matters. The usual question of the presenter: what do you think about this, dear Ukrainian expert? And the “expert” thinks how he could slap a toothpipe more. After receiving the zabyotychina, the presenter politely remarks: you did not answer the question posed.

It is said that “Ukrainian experts” are used as a “live vaccine” on our television channels, but then the dose must be maintained and not equal conditions created by the poison of the vaccine and the body to be vaccinated, in the hope that he will somehow cope.

For some reason, our experts are not invited to the media platforms of not only Kiev, but also of Europe: they protect their information security. We do not care? Until the thunder clap, do we not cross ourselves? And then Kolya from Urengoy is surprised: where did he come from? From our open studios and wind-opened information and educational programs. Such programs are just a gift for those who lead information wars with us, we note that such wars are always waged with a smile and words about peace and humanism in order to hook our gullible Kohl.

We have only two real fighters on the media front: Zhirinovsky and Satanovsky! Apart from Karen Shakhnazarov, who is still the director. The rest carry the pitiful babble of some arguments, evidence and justification: Russia wants to do its best for everyone, even for America with McCain and Ukraine with Bandera! Our "opponents" are grinning: so make us "good", right here and now!

We all pretend that there is no war in our studios: we are supposedly looking for answers to questions and common sense. We urge all Bandera, their allies from Poland and other lands to say that they, objectively, see in some plots, official and semi-official statements of various kinds of figures.

Dulcimer, Tryuhans and Kovtuns do not see anything, and will not see! They did not come to Moscow for this, but in order to hang the labels of "aggressor" and "invader" on Russian information sites on Russia! "Aggressor" is to blame a priori! Where is common sense? - are our presenters calling in "60" and other minutes? In fact, it is - in its own information war.

This war has become a "spicy dish" live, because with curses, insults - it's as interesting as a filmmaker with an unpredictable outcome! Our media executives understand what they are doing? Yes, Bandera and I still have some semi-diplomatic relations, but in the information sphere - the war has long been! And with America, and with Europe too! And so they transferred this war to their media platforms and enjoy high ratings? We will soon be drowned in blood from these ratings: the word also kills, and no worse than a weapon! The main weapon of the notorious ISIS is the propaganda word, and only then - the bomb!

Compare what our Western “colleagues” are doing: they don’t allow our political analysts and journalists to their media sites, they spit on freedom of speech and pass laws against “Russian propaganda” because they fear information warfare at home, “confusion minds "is the last revelation of European svobodoslov. On Western media platforms, only their “experts” reign with a well-known postulate: “Let my country be wrong, but this is my country!”

To give the enemy freedom of speech in the information war on its territory is the way to defeat, it is like giving the enemy weapons on the battlefield, and then fighting him for his life! If we get lucky. After all, Tsymbalyuki and Tryukhany's goal is not freedom of speech and some kind of dispute, but our informational debacle, that is, infoicide. Dulcimeres and Tryuhans only smirk and insolently from impunity, and always give the same answers to stories about Donbass: there is a war with you, everyone is killed, and we don’t believe your reporters and witnesses, we have our witnesses.

The only time, perhaps, Vladimir Oleynik, a refugee from Ukraine and a former deputy of the Rada, said in “60 minutes” what was going on: you are talking to neo-Nazis, they will promise you everything, so that the mayor of the former Dnipropetrovsk Filatov promised you, and Bandera society did not condemn it silently. Oleinik well knows who we are dealing with: he barely took his legs from the former Ukraine.

But in Moscow studios Oleinik is a voice crying in the desert. He understands what we do not yet understand: Tsymbalyuki and Tryukhans are not ex-Russians or Ukrainians, they are Bandera’s, neo-Nazis with a mania for the superiority of “Ukrainians”, who lead their lineage from accomplices of the Hitlerites Bandera and Shukhevych, that they don’t hide, and we swallow !

What is happening today in our media studios is just the same as if, before 1941, a year, Goebbels propagandists were invited to Soviet audiences to understand their position and find some common sense and common ground: they are also people and the working class among the fascists too.

Our media all their generosity show, hope that the Cymbals and Tryuhans will weep and appreciate! Do not cry. There is on this occasion the treatise of A. K. Tolstoy “Generosity Softens Hearts”, XIX century:

Dagger dagger killer unholy
In the chest to Delarue.
He, taking off his hat, said to him courteously:
“Thank you” ……………………….
Here the villain was torturing him, piercing
All teles,
And to Delarue: “I ask for a cup of tea
To us at three o'clock ”……………….
Here the eater has become and even bitter than pepper
Villain view.
Good for evil spoiled heart -
Oh! will not forgive.
The high spirit of mediocrity is disturbing
Darkness is terrible light ........................
He dipped with godless malice
Dagger your poison
And, having risen to Delarue carefully, -
To grab a friend's ass! .........................
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  1. forty-eighth
    forty-eighth 26 December 2017 15: 18 New
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    Author, come on!
    All these comrades are exactly the same "experts" like myself. It’s just that kind of earning. As soon as a team from employers arrives to change the style of rhetoric, all the constant talk showmen will begin to broadcast about the bloody Zhidobender men, without losing their rhythm and without changing their tonality.
    But they are not invited to Western television channels for two reasons: firstly, they don’t know anything about their expertise, and secondly, it’s not customary to pay for participation in talk shows there. It is understood that PR on television is sufficient compensation for the time spent.
    1. Karakurt
      Karakurt 26 December 2017 15: 47 New
      +9
      Quote: forty-eighth
      Author, come on!
      All these comrades are exactly the same "experts" like myself. It’s just that kind of earning. As soon as a team from employers arrives to change the style of rhetoric, all the constant talk showmen will begin to broadcast about the bloody Zhidobender men, without losing their rhythm and without changing their tonality.
      But they are not invited to Western television channels for two reasons: firstly, they don’t know anything about their expertise, and secondly, it’s not customary to pay for participation in talk shows there. It is understood that PR on television is sufficient compensation for the time spent.

      These "experts" have already dropped to the level of insults and humiliations of Russia and the Russians, and no matter whether they pay them or not, I wait for the patriot V. Solovyov to stand it and clean up one of them "face" live am
      1. Tatyana
        Tatyana 26 December 2017 15: 54 New
        17
        Tsymbalyuks, Tryukhany and Kovtuns are located in our studios as at home, they take by the throat of our highly scientific venerable observers when they dare to object to them.
        The most interesting thing is that they are doing this on Russian television for considerable "elite" ones - simply furious even by Russian standards - earnings in Russia! Their faces are beaten at the studios, but they still do not leave the screens!
        Kovtun's monthly fees - 770ty. rubles, Boma (USA) - up to 1 million rubles.
        See- https://topwar.ru/127502-smi-vyyasnili-razmery-go
        norarov-vkovtuna-i-mboma-na-rossiyskom-tv.html
        1. White wolf
          White wolf 26 December 2017 17: 29 New
          +4
          I believe it is right that they are shown. The people see the enemy in the face, his guise, the attitude towards our people. Without masks, so to speak.
          1. Tatyana
            Tatyana 26 December 2017 17: 43 New
            +9
            Quote: White wolf
            I believe it is right that they are shown. The people see the enemy in the face, his guise, the attitude towards our people. Without masks, so to speak.
            But I think that our enemies on Russian television do not deserve such earnings - under 1 million rubles in 1 a month - all the more, in the person of constantly the same personalities.
            For example, what Kovtun thinks, Russians already know thoroughly. In addition, on the same Kovtun, the whole range of opinions of Ukrainians in Ukraine, Russia, the USA and Poland, etc. did not agree in any way! Kovtun not only repeats itself, but also does not allow others to speak. And his opponent in particular. If you listen to one Kovtun in the program, then we will definitely get the propaganda of those whom Kovtun defends. When there is no dialogue, it is precisely propaganda that remains.

            In order to find out the opinion of our geopolitical opponents, it’s enough to pay our enemies much less for participation on Russian television and to replace much more of them.
          2. passerby5
            passerby5 30 December 2017 08: 55 New
            0
            and you are so naive ... well
        2. Lex.
          Lex. 26 December 2017 19: 58 New
          +5
          Well, you have Nadezhdin, Nekrasov will be cleaner than Tryukhons with Kovtuns
      2. Victor Kamenev
        26 December 2017 16: 05 New
        +6
        On the western channels, exactly the same experts on Russia, they are all the same, in fact, only erudition is different, and yet they are “experts”, because they withstand an aggressive tone and are not being led to the attempts of the leaders to “explain” their position.
        1. Reserve officer
          Reserve officer 26 December 2017 17: 01 New
          13
          Thanks for the article, Victor. Everything is written correctly. Himself repeatedly surprised at all this. But only all of these programs are, rather, not elements of an information war, but rather primitive talk shows. What do you need for TV channels? Rating. This is how this rating is raised.
          And for raising the rating, all the means of the TV people are good - that is 1, channel, 2, that NTV. Like, you think that the country is poured with shit. After all, the audience is watching, swallowing it all. So - like the transfer. This is their logic. And the roots of all this are in the absence of ideology, in the asphyxiation of normal education and patriotic education. Who needs to be raised there now, according to the Minister of Education? A competent consumer, if not mistaken? So they grow ...
          1. passerby5
            passerby5 30 December 2017 08: 57 New
            +1
            I agree 100500 times
        2. Nicholas C.
          Nicholas C. 26 December 2017 18: 16 New
          +7
          A very correct article with balanced estimates.
          But the number of talk shows and the composition of experts, as I understand it, practically does not depend on the hosts of such “tk shows”. Such propaganda has been given the installation by the owners and / or first persons of the so-called central channels. And then we look who they are? These are partners of Berezovsky and the same in / out of the 90s. The most that neither is the 5th column. In my humble opinion, after they succeeded in the anti-Russian Bandera-fascist coup in Kiev, they prepare the public consciousness for a similar coup here. In my opinion, have already achieved a lot.
          PS. R. Ostashko did the right thing by filing a lawsuit. Unfortunately, I couldn’t do it legally competently. And he does not continue anymore. I wonder why?
          PPS Photographed with Borey even when he did not callous eyes in such programs.
      3. shubin
        shubin 26 December 2017 19: 07 New
        +9
        V. Soloviev is the same patriot of Russia as I am Israel. A person makes money without depriving, at the same time, “experts” who help him hard.
      4. 79807420129
        79807420129 26 December 2017 20: 36 New
        12
        But it’s interesting that P. Grudinin won the elections in March 2018 and whether there will remain on these current sites-jackets, karasevs and other tricks, what
        1. passerby5
          passerby5 30 December 2017 08: 59 New
          0
          u have a subscription. so do not expect)))
      5. BecmepH
        BecmepH 27 December 2017 10: 35 New
        +5
        Quote: Karakurt
        I’m waiting for the patriot V. Solovyov to stand it and clean up one of them “face” live

        Do not wait ...
      6. vasya.pupkin
        vasya.pupkin 27 December 2017 13: 51 New
        +5
        Karakurt: don’t tell the fuck, she’s already funny! Only yesterday I wanted to personally stuff the God-chosen face of Solovyov-Kushner, for his “intelligent” broadcasting, to which he invited his friend Greg / Grisha from Peter /. Grisha brazenly interrupted all Russians and Armenian Shakhnazarov, but instead of shutting him up, the "nightingale" self-propelled supported a "discussion" with him. This "person close to the emperor" / interview was given to him by V.V.P./ himself, just a very well-read HAM and !!!
      7. passerby5
        passerby5 30 December 2017 08: 53 New
        +2
        do you yourself believe in that? then after the show they plump together and look at the ratings at which moment more people watched. Yes, maybe for you and people like you, in order to raise the audience, they will clean the face. and then they will go pooh. neighing ... above us
    2. parma
      parma 28 December 2017 13: 30 New
      +2
      Um ... these TV shows have two goals - big ratings (and therefore money, although this goal is not the main one) and to show the opinion of pseudo-experts what is necessary (and assuring us that everyone in the corresponding country thinks so) ... the party and leadership course is right, but they don’t understand us ... Have you watched Western TV channels for a long time or talked with people living there? They deeply side with Ukraine and the war in its east, for now it’s relatively quiet and calm, post-shootings will begin, discussions will start ... Take Mali for example, someone is discussing it with us (but there are fights, although now they’re already smaller )? No, because there is no and there are no special interests of ours! Does anyone remember Somalia? no .... And when the war in Sudan was going on, just recently, did someone say something, even when the country broke up? NO! these countries are not part of the active foreign policy of our Russia and there is no need to explain and support the party’s line on these issues, and they are silent about them ...
  2. complete zero
    complete zero 26 December 2017 15: 32 New
    +6
    it’s always USEFUL to listen to the enemy ... it’s only NOT on our programs ... where the presenters are promoting ... and a bunch of amorphous débbi and lobes clap behind their backs "ala of the CPSU Central Committee" ... and the word these enemies are not allowed to say (interrupted) .. and what does anyone need such programs for?
    1. Victor Kamenev
      26 December 2017 16: 07 New
      +8
      The presenter is such a job, about “” it’s right, but to broadcast the enemy’s propaganda is a mistake fraught with blood, Not everyone in the audience has a rocket scientist like you.
      1. Cube123
        Cube123 26 December 2017 16: 25 New
        +8
        And for me, so if, in your opinion, our experts lose to these scumbags, then it is OUR experts who need to be driven and replaced by others. There is no need to play giveaways and clear the area from strong opponents. You can’t learn something serious if you are beaten up against you. These are sparring partners.
        1. dSK
          dSK 26 December 2017 16: 41 New
          +1
          Hello Andrey!
          Quote: Cube123
          replace them with others
          such as "The official representative of the Russian Foreign Ministry Maria Zakharova received a higher diplomatic rank - extraordinary and plenipotentiary envoy of the first class. This is stated in the decree of Russian President Vladimir Putin.
          1. Cube123
            Cube123 26 December 2017 18: 00 New
            +6
            And I really liked how these guys were smeared on the wall by Konstantin Zatulin on the program "60 minutes". They instantly turned into lambs. Here is an example to follow.
    2. passerby5
      passerby5 30 December 2017 09: 03 New
      0
      you pay in what time these EXPERIMENT programs go ..... means someone needs
    3. passerby5
      passerby5 30 December 2017 09: 07 New
      0
      do not have with us. eating an opinion is called. on TVC. more or less. although the same faces flicker there. but less often and somehow it seems to me that they are discussing more deliberately, without turning into a dumb bootee during a conversation, which implies the rubbish of opponents and sticking oneself out of one’s beloved. and Shakhnazarov in vain signed there. especially on the 2nd channel. (IMHO)
  3. Mihail55
    Mihail55 26 December 2017 15: 48 New
    +5
    Of course, this action drags on ... as in distant Rome - BREAD AND SHOW! I don’t give a damn that the economy is moving smoothly ... to the next bottom, the main thing is to look at THESE! Are they worth such a PR? NTV, First, Russia, TVC ... who surpasses whom - name, name! But what about the ban in our country of the Right Sector? Why are these Bandera better?
    1. Victor Kamenev
      26 December 2017 16: 10 New
      +7
      True remark, in a country where Nazi organizations work, can there be "experts" free from Nazism?
    2. passerby5
      passerby5 30 December 2017 09: 10 New
      +2
      By the way, yes! but so, they would discuss internal problems. No, everything is fine with us. Here are the problems that fix me piz ...... c how excite
  4. bk316
    bk316 26 December 2017 15: 48 New
    +8
    It is said that “Ukrainian experts” are used as a “live vaccine” on our television channels, but then the dose must be maintained and not equal conditions created by the poison of the vaccine and the body to be vaccinated, in the hope that he will somehow cope.

    Oh come on - it's a vaccine from dead microorganisms. You look at Kovtun and who will believe him. Anyone understands that here in front of the screen is a fascist, a liar, anencephalus and at the same time a pathological coward - in general, a real representative of modern UKRAINE. So this is a very good propaganda.
    1. Victor Kamenev
      26 December 2017 16: 11 New
      10
      You did not read Goebbels, the master was, with a credo: pour more dirt on the enemy, something will stick, not wash!
      1. bk316
        bk316 26 December 2017 17: 12 New
        +3
        You did not read Goebbels

        Your truth did not read ...
      2. terro
        terro 26 December 2017 18: 50 New
        +2
        Opinion, and the article is kitchen. Pleased with the low rating, "talking" about the growth of consciousness.

        Quote: g1v2
        In my opinion, these comrades fulfill an extremely important mission for our people. They just say what they think. And this is the cure for the disease that we had during the 80s and 90s, when we thought that there were only friends around. That we do not need the army and special services. What if they beat us, then we ourselves were wrong, and so on. What is ruled by law and international law in the world. WE HAVE MUCH PAID FOR THESE ILLUSIONS.
        And now we are clearly seeing a simple thing. That there are people abroad who HATE US. And negotiating with them is useless. They will not hear us point blank. These people are not alone - there are thousands of them, including those in the power of part of our neighbors. And the most important thing is that if they are given free rein, they will not kill our children, as Bandera or forest brothers did in their time. We should clearly see the face of the enemy, and not send mantras about fraternal peoples, world peace, etc. And from here follows the main conclusion. The development of the army, navy and special services is the only way to survive for us. It’s simple and commonplace to survive.
        So let these comrades say everything they think and pour out their hatred - we will be angrier.


        Totally agree, they are a showcase. And they are needed so that there are no illusions about the fraternal people in the mass. You need to sort it very carefully.

        About Goebbels, is this an advertisement for his work? And to whom is it stuck? Do not confuse propaganda in your own country with fully controlled media and discussion. In which there is always the opportunity to convict of deceit, forgery, lies. These programs are not only watched in Russia. This is informational influence, the importance of which was lost in the Soviet years. The Iron Curtain provided fertile ground for speculation about paradise life in the capitalist world, the emergence of subcultures of dudes, hippies, punks.
        1. passerby5
          passerby5 30 December 2017 09: 20 New
          +1
          so yes: on the one hand we see "what kind of Bendery they are" these "kovtuns". but realizing that they are paid to us, she almost kisses them and then kisses rejoicing at the ratings - she somehow disgusts for ours .... well, for those I understand, they are for money-traitors of everything and everyone, and for the money will be saying the opposite tomorrow ... but somehow: the precipitate remains .... here it’s “insulting the power”
    2. Antares
      Antares 30 December 2017 23: 08 New
      0
      Quote: bk316
      in general, a true representative of modern UKRAINE. So this is a very good propaganda.

      ordinary demonization of the country. It is necessary for complacency about losing the country and explaining why the leadership allowed this. Look, they’re so bad.
      In general, they themselves are to blame for the fact that we made mistakes and the largest land border is in jeopardy, that the largest Russian-speaking country after the Russian Federation is now an enemy, etc.
  5. g1v2
    g1v2 26 December 2017 15: 56 New
    +6
    In my opinion, these comrades fulfill an extremely important mission for our people. They just say what they think. And this is the cure for the disease that we had during the 80s and 90s, when we thought that there were only friends around. That we do not need the army and special services. What if they beat us, then we ourselves were wrong, and so on. What is ruled by law and international law in the world. request WE HAVE MUCH PAID FOR THESE ILLUSIONS.
    And now we are clearly seeing a simple thing. That there are people abroad who HATE US. And negotiating with them is useless. They will not hear us point blank. These people are not alone - there are thousands of them, including those in the power of part of our neighbors. And the most important thing is that if they are given free rein, they will not kill our children, as Bandera or forest brothers did in their time. We should clearly see the face of the enemy, and not send mantras about fraternal peoples, world peace, etc. And from here follows the main conclusion. The development of the army, navy and special services is the only way to survive for us. It’s simple and commonplace to survive. am
    So let these comrades say everything they think and pour out their hatred - we will be angrier. angry
    1. Victor Kamenev
      26 December 2017 16: 15 New
      +8
      You have forgotten about Kohl from Urengoi, and for some reason you extend your intuition to everyone. The art of the word is an art in which the one who has more skill than the truth, unfortunately wins.
      1. Cube123
        Cube123 26 December 2017 16: 56 New
        +4
        Quote: Victor Kamenev
        You have forgotten about Kohl from Urengoi, and for some reason you extend your intuition to everyone. The art of the word is an art in which the one who has more skill than the truth, unfortunately wins.

        So you need to look for those who own this art. If not, then cook specially. And following your logic and on the battlefield, you need to choose a weaker opponent who will definitely lose to you.
      2. Cube123
        Cube123 26 December 2017 23: 48 New
        +4
        Quote: Victor Kamenev
        You forgot about Kolya from Urengoy

        And you propose building greenhouses and growing greenhouse flowers there, which will be bent at the first meeting with harsh reality. You cannot build a strong ideology if you play giveaways. A strong ideology must win the competition. Otherwise, it’s worthless if it isn’t run on a real adversary and needs to be cleared out of the information space for it.
    2. passerby5
      passerby5 30 December 2017 09: 21 New
      0
      probably yes so
  6. Chichikov
    Chichikov 26 December 2017 15: 59 New
    +3
    Will those to whom this article is addressed? After all, having removed the elements of a heated discussion, the show will not take place. But there is no show, no offers for advertising. True, nothing domestic, except for healers, can be found in this advertisement.
    1. Victor Kamenev
      26 December 2017 16: 21 New
      +4
      It is not necessary to discuss, giving the opportunity to constantly hang labels on their country. If truth and falsehood are 50 / 50, then the one who has just higher oratorical skills will win the discussion. Let's play roulette, where is the country at stake?
      And for the show, you can invite our Ksenia, with "Home - 2".
  7. ando_bor
    ando_bor 26 December 2017 16: 02 New
    +1
    It’s not even for average minds, taking into account the durability in terms of clarity, it’s much lower, but it’s enough so that the fools do not jump, and the rest understand everything.
  8. Altona
    Altona 26 December 2017 16: 20 New
    +5
    I haven’t watched this television nonsense for a long time, I watched it for the first year, that's enough. I don’t like it when they hate the atmosphere of hatred for a long time. Let's move on to violence! laughing laughing
    1. Boris55
      Boris55 26 December 2017 16: 31 New
      +2
      Quote: Altona
      Let's move on to violence!

      Any word is management. When someone loses the argument on an ideological level, they proceed to solve the problem by force. Usually this is the one whose argument ends first.
      You suggest that we recognize defeat at higher management priorities and move to lower ones. in this case we are guaranteed to lose.
      Even children know that the struggle of minds comes before the physical struggle.
  9. Hurricane70
    Hurricane70 26 December 2017 16: 47 New
    0
    "... and our program leaders and political scientists swallow it! ..."
    Yeah, swallow, ukroopyr grab it, then from head to toe ..... e sit, so do not!
    The only thing is, nothing new, one heresy of the dodgers!
  10. Hurricane70
    Hurricane70 26 December 2017 16: 55 New
    +1
    "... We only have two real fighters on the media front: Zhirinovsky and Satanovsky! ..."
    Who made that conclusion? Then do not forget the third Jew, Solovyov!
    It seems that the author is not entirely "in the subject" ...
    They often snatched out and on all channels where they appeared, remember, for example, Cat vs Kovtun! Yes, and there were others, the author wants, let yoube yourself ...
    Mikheev what did not please you, besides the fact that he is not included in the circle of the three above-mentioned?
    1. Victor Kamenev
      27 December 2017 00: 05 New
      +4
      I respect Mikheev, Kota, Zatulin, and Pushkova, but they are more analysts, they speak well, but as analysts. In the political lists the analyst is not the main thing, the main thing is to defeat the opponent, his arguments, his position, and not to explain what is happening in the world. This is a different profession, that's what's the matter. Zhirinovsky and Satanovsky are good not because they are analysts, but because they give change to their opponents.
  11. Altona
    Altona 26 December 2017 16: 56 New
    +4
    Quote: Boris55
    Any word is management. When someone loses the argument on an ideological level, they proceed to solve the problem by force. Usually this is the one whose argument ends first.

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    In our case, the West was the first to resort to violence by launching direct prohibitions on our media. And I say that why graze these propagandists on our channels? Do you want to always answer their increasingly dumb attacks and trolling? Yes, you are a masochist, my friend! Tag on the beads in front of the pigs. Prove the unprovable.
  12. andrej-shironov
    andrej-shironov 26 December 2017 18: 16 New
    +2
    Dear Victor! So it’s clear. The authorities need the admission of such characters in the broadcast studio, so that you could always cause hatred for a certain audience and you could say: but look how in Ukraine! They got around, they say! Therefore, only Putin to the presidency, no deviations. All arguments in this kind of programs for those traveling are only Ukraine, and a comparison with 90 mi.
    1. Victor Kamenev
      27 December 2017 00: 22 New
      +1
      These characters are present in relation to 50 / 50, this is called in a foreign monastery with its charter, your argument turns out to be a cover for the penetration of enemy propagandists. You can show what is happening in Ukraine in other ways, and for those who are especially interested, there is the Internet.
      1. andrej-shironov
        andrej-shironov 27 December 2017 09: 33 New
        0
        So there is more interactivity than on the Internet!
  13. Radikal
    Radikal 26 December 2017 18: 32 New
    +2
    Quote: Karakurt
    Quote: forty-eighth
    Author, come on!
    All these comrades are exactly the same "experts" like myself. It’s just that kind of earning. As soon as a team from employers arrives to change the style of rhetoric, all the constant talk showmen will begin to broadcast about the bloody Zhidobender men, without losing their rhythm and without changing their tonality.
    But they are not invited to Western television channels for two reasons: firstly, they don’t know anything about their expertise, and secondly, it’s not customary to pay for participation in talk shows there. It is understood that PR on television is sufficient compensation for the time spent.

    These "experts" have already dropped to the level of insults and humiliations of Russia and the Russians, and no matter whether they pay them or not, I wait for the patriot V. Solovyov to stand it and clean up one of them "face" live am

    About the "patriot" V. Solovyov - it's cool !!! wassat
  14. cannabis
    cannabis 26 December 2017 18: 39 New
    +1
    How is Orwell? "Five minutes of hate?"
  15. Alexander War
    Alexander War 26 December 2017 18: 51 New
    +1
    For our journalists this is a talk show, for Tsimbalyuki, Tryukhany and Kovtun for them this is the information war that they wage on our central channels, plus for this our suckers-media pay them not a lot of money!
  16. Ural resident
    Ural resident 26 December 2017 19: 37 New
    +6
    I also thought - why not just invite the Ukrainians - no, the most fierce Bandera’s name.
    But squabble and drive create ratings - as long as the people watching it - it will be so ..
    The most important thing is that all these Solovyov’s, at any change of priorities, will immediately be repainted from patriots to Russophobes. Just like recently dressed in red patriots.
    1. ando_bor
      ando_bor 26 December 2017 20: 17 New
      +1
      Quote: A resident of the Urals
      why not just invite the Ukrainians - the most fierce Bandera people are called

      I would love to look at the fierce Banderaites, and invite clowns who fiercely play Bandera very badly - it turns out, not in vain - people believe, and those who invite, they think so, there are those who are hawking. But really fierce Bandera dragging on - well, these fools are Russian, - I saw in YouTube.
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 26 December 2017 22: 29 New
        +2
        The channel rating depends on the “banderlogs”, the steeper the bandera, the steeper the channel.
        1. Antares
          Antares 30 December 2017 23: 13 New
          0
          Quote: ando_bor
          fierce Bandera very poorly played,

          they are also different, there are savvy, there are blindly stubborn believers. This is if the sect Bandera. However, the word "Bandera" is pulled on all Ukrainians indiscriminately - just a patriot, a patriot of struggle, a patriot of ideas, etc. ... neutral ones also come simply by birth or passport.
  17. sd68
    sd68 26 December 2017 19: 59 New
    +2
    The author has fallen out of reality.
    The Pole was beaten at a Russian talk show, the American was beaten by Bohm, Kovtun was beaten repeatedly.
    But the reverse cases are not observed.
    And the author is carrying something about some supposedly denticles from those invited to the leader.
    1. Dalailama
      Dalailama 28 December 2017 04: 40 New
      0
      They probably go there for the money.
      In reality, the director of an American RT citizen of the Russian Federation was killed, and the speaker of the Russian Federation at the UN also simply did not reach his number.
  18. xomaNN
    xomaNN 26 December 2017 21: 01 New
    +1
    Already spoken out on this topic. I do not know on what scales the leaders of the Russian media TV of the first buttons weigh the benefits of their political talk shows. They provide a platform for the poor, most often narrow-minded uk ... p. to the Nazis. What for? Want hotter? And if even from the Russian side, bisons of the Solovyov scale fought in disputes. am
    ----------------
    For clarity, I watch these shows on satellite and live in Ukraine. And our "freedom of speech" is not like guests from the Russian Federation in the UK. TV does not allow 10 km. but even uk. opponents. bully
    1. Victor Kamenev
      27 December 2017 00: 44 New
      0
      Homa, do not you think that Viy came to you, directly from Gogol? Gogol also needs to look for medicine.
    2. Antares
      Antares 30 December 2017 23: 17 New
      0
      Quote: xomaNN
      uk opponents

      the opposition in the form of opponents itself organizes a talk show. In Ukraine, even this is easier, although there are high-profile threats. However, the Russians are not invited there. Honestly I do not know anyone worthy of an invitation. Paid are not satisfied. And those that I like, despite the front line, will not come. They can already be counted on the fingers. The laws of the show kill the truth in the first place. And each one has its own.
  19. Dormidont
    Dormidont 26 December 2017 21: 56 New
    +2
    It should be a normal sane person in the internet to express their position - instantly accusations of extremism. And these untouchable mugs can pour any Russophobic misanthropic rubbish from the blue screen. Tolerance, her toddler
  20. RECORHE
    RECORHE 26 December 2017 22: 08 New
    0
    I don’t understand why this ukrokal is admitted to the program? .. Their participation depreciates, discourages the desire to watch and listen.
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 26 December 2017 22: 24 New
      +1
      People will be meaner.
  21. midshipman
    midshipman 26 December 2017 22: 12 New
    +5
    These programs of our TV are just a crime. These Ukrainians and hohlushek for a cannon shot can not be allowed on Russian TV. In general, Russian TV has turned into an enemy voice. There are no broadcasts about the life of our regions, but political programs with Ukrainians are constant. What for? The author is right from these ratings, you can soon drown in Russian blood. I have the honor.
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 26 December 2017 22: 23 New
      +6
      I agree with the midshipman. Especially the 1 channel, on which there are no patriotic or children's programs, Odi's Guzeev's matchmakers, evening Urganty-Shmurganty, granny Pugacheva and her goods shake their boobs. It is time to stop fooling the people, especially our children and grandchildren. It's time to censor the media.
      1. dSK
        dSK 26 December 2017 23: 54 New
        +2
        Hello Vlad!
        Quote: tihonmarine
        It is time to stop fooling the people, especially our children and grandchildren.
        Children are especially sorry. Adults understand what’s what. After the privatization of the First, a sign remained - the Vremya program. The owner’s son is young Urgand, and others like him are sculpting a program on US patterns. At the end of the year, this private shop was presented with a budget lard of rubles. It is not known for what merits. Channel "Russia" is occupied by Petrosyan and the fifth husband of "grandmother" - Galkin. I practically do not watch this TV because of endless advertising.
        1. GLIMMERING
          GLIMMERING 27 December 2017 05: 33 New
          +1
          Support.
          All trash is twisted. Moreover, they pay under a license for these "shows" to the west, to "our partners" ... For @ # $, is there a zombie man with "houses" and TV shows for dibiloids ... Ugh ...
          1. passerby5
            passerby5 30 December 2017 09: 31 New
            0
            and I include about fishing, and hunting. Well there is a discovery. ..and norms))))
  22. Radikal
    Radikal 26 December 2017 22: 14 New
    +2
    Quote: RECORHE
    I don’t understand why this ukrokal is admitted to the program? .. Their participation depreciates, discourages the desire to watch and listen.

    Just everything is simple - people need something to distract from the harsh reality in their homeland. In a particular language, this is called: "distraction to an unusable object!" By the way, somehow the Guarantor himself mentioned this term - apparently he likes this technique. bully
    1. passerby5
      passerby5 30 December 2017 09: 33 New
      +1
      Yes Yes. it has long been said: the people need bread and circuses ... and this is the last
  23. tihonmarine
    tihonmarine 26 December 2017 22: 17 New
    +1
    These "comrades" we need. When people look at the box of these idiots, they have more hatred for such people. Many social problems immediately disappear.
  24. German Titov
    German Titov 26 December 2017 22: 49 New
    0
    In the distant past "as we say -" before the war ", in the eyes of" iksperds (like "Savik Shustroy"), I naively saw signs of the mind. After a short time, I realized the pose! In the year 2010, I had to read a “journalistic investigation” in the “Crime Ukraine”, where “it was explained about“ contractual fights among deputies. ”If you recall higher mathematics (taught from grades 1 through 5 of secular schools), the level of trust in journalists and“ iksperds ” "dropped to" critical. "75% responsibility for what was happening on them and the" housekeepers. "What a hunch, you had to have" molfars "in the memory, so that people would come a few days" before beating "to Kiev. From different the sides are blown up by the fire, and Vanyam and Earrings will have to be extinguished (on both sides).
    1. Victor Kamenev
      27 December 2017 00: 51 New
      +1
      "And for the fun of a fan of a slightly hidden fire ..." - Russian classics. Therefore, it is forbidden on the Bandera Krajina, in order to completely beat off the memory, and with it the mind and intuition ...
  25. gerkost2012
    gerkost2012 27 December 2017 00: 55 New
    +4
    Gentlemen, why should the Russian Federation appropriate foreign laurels for itself in losing the propaganda war? What began to do in Ukraine from the very beginning of the independence? The humanitarian bloc in the government with someone's "pointing" was given to nationalist figures and representatives.
    After the victory of Yanukovych in the presidential election in 2010, the Donetsk people said with a laugh that the humanitarian block was traditionally given to the opposition! Not only that, this vegetable president with Co. also financed the extreme right, also the “Freedom” of Tyagnibok. Education and culture in the hands of Bandera for 25 years, that's the result! What role could the Russian media and other means of propaganda play if the Russian ambassador Zurabov dived somewhere and disappeared, where he was, what he was doing and what he was doing, no one knew. As a result, Russia lost Ukraine for a long time, if not forever. Imagine that UA somehow unites with the Russian Federation. Yes, from this infection, Russia will decompose faster than ice cream melts. Is it not enough for you that your infection in society is in the form of the famous "fifth column" !? And as regards TV shows dedicated to Ukraine, they are, frankly, tired of it. The same faces, the same scenarios. People work out roles and earn good money. And the presenters portray the tolerance of opinions. That's the whole propaganda "war", more precisely, vanity and nonsense.
    1. passerby5
      passerby5 30 December 2017 09: 52 New
      0
      so with us with education something is not entirely clear. and from us there was also Chernomyrdin. he’s also the talker, and I don’t think he was worth the ass. such people like Zh. liz, and at the same time their eyes close with emotion and do not see what is happening around. long-tried reception
    2. Antares
      Antares 30 December 2017 23: 24 New
      0
      Quote: gerkost2012
      Yes, from this infection, Russia will decompose faster than ice cream melts. Is it really not enough for you to infect yourselves in society in the form of the famous "fifth column"!

      historical experience suggests the opposite, with absolute free will and discord in the Ukrainian lands, it is this sourdough that Russia lacks. And the reverse is not enough for Ukraine.
      Murid perfectly explains
      The trinity of the Russian people - Russians, Ukrainians and Belarusians - actually has a very deep meaning for Russian civilization. Adventurism with a slight touch of inadequate Ukrainians, the stinginess and prudence of Belarusians and the incredible obstinacy of Russians create together a very balanced system, in which there is both development and stability - key factors for the existence of a harmonious system. The West and its henchmen here did everything possible to tear our peoples apart and deprive Russian civilization - one of the five worlds - chances of survival and development. Alone, each of our three people is doomed due to the lack of qualities necessary for either development or sustainable existence. Russia, as we see, is immediately slipping into despotism on the verge of fascism, Ukraine is spreading itself, not having solid soil under it.

      You may not agree in many ways, but for me a very good compilation.
  26. Radikal
    Radikal 27 December 2017 01: 05 New
    0
    Quote: tihonmarine
    These "comrades" we need. When people look at the box of these idiots, they have more hatred for such people. Many social problems immediately disappear.

    So I am about the same! sad
  27. Normal ok
    Normal ok 27 December 2017 01: 43 New
    +1
    Tsymbalyuks and Tryukhans are not former Russians and not Ukrainians, they are Bandera, neo-Nazis with delusions of superiority of “Ukrainians”,

    Well, you don’t need to keep everyone thinking alternatively. All of the above gentlemen are fake. Not only Russians but Ukrainians feel sick from them. They need Russian TV purely for anti-propaganda.
  28. GLIMMERING
    GLIMMERING 27 December 2017 05: 27 New
    +1
    Clowns need to know. As well as puppeteers that they jerk ....
    1. passerby5
      passerby5 30 December 2017 09: 54 New
      0
      Well, we see the clowns, and who ....- I think it is not from Ukraine that they give a command to whom to broadcast
  29. complete zero
    complete zero 27 December 2017 10: 41 New
    0
    Quote: Victor Kamenev
    The presenter is such a job, about “” it’s right, but to broadcast the enemy’s propaganda is a mistake fraught with blood, Not everyone in the audience has a rocket scientist like you.

    "broadcast the propaganda of the enemy" -receive dear ... this century is the age of information (mobile information) .. we are NOT living in the DPRK ... I repeat the question-WHY all these talk shows if you can hear only ONE SIDE in them. ... then let them NOT invite these same enemies .. what problems ????
  30. turbris
    turbris 27 December 2017 12: 28 New
    +3
    Why did a bunch of political observers from our television spread to Ukraine? Kiselev, Ganapolsky, Schuster, and others, they were engaged in open anti-Russian propaganda on our television, and when it became difficult, they spread to Ukraine. And who invited them to our television, who paid their salaries - the heads of the TV channels, everyone quietly sits in their places, directs the TV channels and continues to issue anti-Russian shows. Who in the government determines the broadcasting policy of television channels? Or are they independent and private to such an extent that they can participate in an information war against their country? I am starting to miss the Committee on Radio and Television under the Central Committee of the CPSU.
  31. koralvit
    koralvit 27 December 2017 22: 42 New
    0
    I agree with the author. All these Kovtuns cause only irritation. They do not hear logic and just arguments and do not want to hear. Tired already, it's time to stop inviting them. Our liberalism will come to us sideways.
  32. iouris
    iouris 28 December 2017 13: 15 New
    +1
    "Information war" is a war that results in a reduction in the number of listeners and spectators.
  33. Antor
    Antor 28 December 2017 14: 47 New
    0
    With the appearances of "tryukhans" and the like, the TV channels strive to maintain attention and approve their rating for an increasingly increasing display of advertising !!! It seems that our media bosses and their leaders need all sorts of scum and the most heinous manifestations of human arrogance, meanness, hopeless lies and Russophobia, which comes to direct violations of the law to counter the spread of the ideas of Nazism, racial hostility, and terrorism to those who preach. The hidden insults against our country, its leadership, Russians with constant propaganda of Neo-Bandera paradise simply not only revolt, but also raise a question before our authorities - as long as this will continue under the supposedly permissive opinions of any and every preacher of the fascist on our air !? ?? For the sake of grandmas, huge profits from advertising, our channels and talk shows sometimes become just anti-Russian garbage dumps, where, like a job, with rather big payments for Russian money, a whole army of already formed and gained fame goes, with their PR promotion by our hosts and our talk show, a whole galaxy of Ukrainian, Polish, Baltic, Anglo-Saxon experts supposedly united by only one rabid Russophobia !! We are producing “Kolenok” and the like, who, looking at such shows, are imbued with pride not for our country, but rather they are going to the Bundestag with a penitent speech about the whitening of the Nazis who came to kill our country !! ??? The lie told 1000 times in the brains of immature youth by such experts, the successors of the Goebbels fascist propaganda, becomes that "truth" that pushes them not only to thoughtless, Russophobic actions in their youth, but also to further betray our country in more mature age .. !! !! ??? Are we few Judas and why do we continue to produce them !!! ????
  34. Mobik
    Mobik 28 December 2017 15: 43 New
    0
    To invite liberalists and ukrov to studios, I think it’s a necessary thing, so that the whole country can see their crap. Only you can invite not such stupid experts. And in general, the old experts are sick of it, we are demanding that the traveler demand to bring in new ukrov and fresh Poles.
    1. Notrust1
      Notrust1 29 December 2017 08: 34 New
      0
      That's the problem that they “invite” only those who agree to show this nonsense, for denyuyuzhku, but worthy opponents, so that your cotton remnants of the brain at least chchchchuuuuyutku knead with a clever idea, to invite to the zombie creature, apparently, is strictly forbidden. That is why you and you see similar vegetables in every shadow of enemies and danger, shaking the space with imaginary threats.
    2. passerby5
      passerby5 30 December 2017 09: 58 New
      0
      ))) I support))))
  35. Robin - Bobbin
    Robin - Bobbin 28 December 2017 17: 38 New
    +1
    Quote: Stock Officer
    But only all these programs, rather, are not elements of an information war, but rather primitive talk shows. What do you need for TV channels? Rating. This is how this rating is raised.

    I agree . Therefore, as I began to understand this, I stopped watching them.
  36. Notrust1
    Notrust1 29 December 2017 08: 31 New
    0
    Your esteemed Solovyov and other litters feed you these faces. And you are glad
  37. roskot
    roskot 30 December 2017 15: 03 New
    0
    As long as you listen to this nonsense. The first channel is “Friends, friends '' ... let’s say - the host. Kovbasyuk - what friends you are to us. You are enemies, and here we are to defend our Ukraine.
    So in the open they express their attitude towards us. And we wipe the snot.
  38. Antares
    Antares 30 December 2017 23: 02 New
    0
    Tsymbalyuki, Tryukhany and Kovtuns are located in our studios as at home, they take by the throat of our highly scientific venerable observers when they dare to object to them

    only Viktor Kamenev does not know that they are just at home and at work
    Kovtun earns up to a million rubles a month
    Michael Bom. The American generally has an exclusive contract and bid. He is obliged to visit a certain number of ethers. Pole Yakub Koreyba receives less than 500 thousand a month.
    According to the American, the opposition to the demonization of the United States and the West is his "journalistic duty".

    TVNZ
    Glory comes out and acts on the principle of “a Baba Yaga against.” People like it.

    Interlocutor ru
    Ukrainian political scientist Kovtun Vyacheslav Nikolaevich, currently definitely lives in Moscow. He gained his fame by participating in political show shows on various channels. At the same time, he manages to visit two or even three television shows in one day. The exact Moscow address of Vyacheslav Kovtun is carefully hidden in order to avoid unnecessary incidents. Vyacheslav is currently forty-eight years old. He was born in Kyrgyzstan, in the working village of Karakul on May XNUMX, one thousand nine hundred and sixty-eight. The politician is married. Has three children. The family lives in Ukraine. Participating in political talk shows, and receiving Russian salary in rubles

    The big question is Ru
    They didn’t come to Moscow for this, but in order to hang up on Russia the labels of “aggressor” and “occupier” on Russian information platforms!

    came for the ruble, live in the Russian Federation, receive salary and pay taxes. Work according to the contract. They work as "Ukrainian political scientists on Russian channels"
    Ordinary employees. Actors! You can’t wait for normal non-paid Ukrainians as well as Russians at the Show. They will tell a sad and dreary truth, a boring show will not collect ratings. The laws of the genre require sharp shows and ratings. Russians watch shows with KOvtuns and vote for it in rubles. Victor takes this for an information war. However, the truth is that the Russian channels themselves order music because the Russian consumer is longing for it.
    There is a usual process - a consumer product. The consumer likes it. The theater goes on.
    The only time, perhaps, is Vladimir Oleynik, a refugee from Ukraine and a former deputy of the Rada

    You can continue on. The same actor. His job is to make predictions (unrealizable) This one that has already sent Poroshenko to Spain irrevocably ... His similar forecasts are exactly the same.
    Regionals, an analogue of the Russian EP, are pathological liars. Promise to promise their creed.
    There is no mass information product in the Russian Federation even for its own patriotism. For the conduct of the information war in Ukraine-Russia, she did nothing at all! Because for business this is not required. And the Russian Federation is a purely project of business and corporations. In the interests of Gazprom, the population of Ukraine, like Russia, is just a means to squeeze out profits (privatization of profits and nationalization of losses).
    All that used the old connections. Life THE USSR. This is under capitalism .. where everything costs money.
    Victor Kamenev is right in one. The Russian Federation lost the information war. She simply did not appear at her. A society without an idea cannot offer this even for itself! And the idea must be competitive for promotion inside and outside the society!
    It was always easy to wage an information war in Ukraine. The same mentality, the same people. The same methods.
    Imprinting wins the mind in us almost always.