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Germany and France demanded the return of the Russian military in the JCCC in the Donbass

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Following Poland, Germany and France began talking about the return of Russian officers to the JCCC. German Chancellor Angela Merkel and French President Emmanuel Macron demanded the return of Russian officers to the Joint Center for Control and Coordination of the Ceasefire Regime in the Donbas, according to a press release from the German government.


Germany and France demanded the return of the Russian military in the JCCC in the Donbass


They (Merkel and Macron) are demanding the return of Russian officers to the Joint Center for Control and Coordination of the Ceasefire Regime in Donbass (JCCC), which plays a very important role in supporting OSCE observers and ceasefire agreements
- said in a statement.

They also called on both parties to the conflict in the Donbas to implement the armistice agreement as soon as possible.

In view of the precarious security situation, they (Merkel and Macron) call for immediate and verifiable measures to stabilize the cease-fire.
- According to a press release.

Earlier, Merkel held telephone talks with Russian President Vladimir Putin and Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko. At Putin, the Chancellor asked about the reasons for the withdrawal of Russian officers from the JCCC in the Donbas. Both leaders, according to the Kremlin press service, agreed to continue to discuss issues for the resumption of full-fledged work of the JCCC.

During the negotiations with Poroshenko, the parties concluded that Russian officers should return to Ukraine for further work, the website of the German government said.

The contact group on the peaceful settlement of the conflict in the Donbass on Wednesday in Minsk agreed on a ceasefire for the New Year and Christmas holidays from December 23. In the self-proclaimed Donetsk People's Republic they said that the Ukrainian security forces had already violated silence, having fired at the outskirts of Gorlovka and the area near Yasinovataya.
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  1. solzh
    solzh 23 December 2017 16: 52 New
    46
    Let Merkel and Macron demand from their wives.
    1. Pirogov
      Pirogov 23 December 2017 16: 54 New
      20
      Quote: solzh
      Let Merkel and Macron demand from their wives.

      But Shaw does Merkul have a wife?) And in the sense of your comment, I agree. Let the grandmother with a lover of grandmothers, demand from the Arabs.
      1. Going
        Going 23 December 2017 16: 59 New
        14
        During the negotiations with Poroshenko, the parties concluded that Russian officers should return to Ukraine for further work, the website of the German government said.


        Okay, but you asked Russia.
        1. The comment was deleted.
          1. Logall
            Logall 23 December 2017 17: 18 New
            34
            Greetings, comrades! We are discussing some garbage, by God, garbage! We will return our officers, so they will begin to oppress them again? We’ll have to withdraw again ... For our officers to be there, our armed forces must guard them!
            1. Jedi
              Jedi 23 December 2017 17: 23 New
              +9
              Quote: Logall
              For our officers to be there, they must be guarded by our armed forces!

              Sasha hi Do you yourself believe that ukroreich will agree to this? Or his overseas mentors? no negative
              1. Lexus
                Lexus 23 December 2017 18: 35 New
                +6
                ukroreykh agree to this? Or his overseas mentors? no negative

                The Red Army did not ask anyone for permission; the Nazis themselves asked for it.

                And then ... Poland asked, Germany and France demanded ... Missed, apparently.
                Without Russian peacekeepers, nowhere. No, well, if you immediately go to Fashington. wink
                1. Jedi
                  Jedi 23 December 2017 18: 40 New
                  11
                  Quote: lexus
                  Without Russian peacekeepers, nowhere. It’s better to go to Fashington.

                  I support this point of view! soldier
                  1. Inok10
                    Inok10 23 December 2017 19: 24 New
                    12
                    Quote: Jedi
                    I support this point of view!

                    ... I support ... the amazing landscape of Washington, the hand of a real painter from the Strategic Missile Forces is felt ... wink
                    1. Jedi
                      Jedi 23 December 2017 19: 29 New
                      +9
                      Alex, my respect! hi A little higher deleted my comment, which is a pity. Apparently someone really didn’t like it.
                      1. Inok10
                        Inok10 23 December 2017 19: 37 New
                        +8
                        Quote: Jedi
                        Alex, my respect!

                        ... Greetings Maxim! ... hi
                        Quote: Jedi
                        A little higher deleted my comment, which is a pity. Apparently someone really didn’t like it.

                        ... well, now we have the beginning of the election campaign on the resource, don’t even go to the New Year’s campaign until the end of the election ... the moderators don’t work on this - they’ve seen this opinion ... well, the opinion is to create a strait named after I.V. Stalin in the place of the United States, this is inciting ethnic hatred ... say thank you for simply deleting the comment ... but on the topic ... I like how journalists pour fuel on the fire ... France and Germany demanded... in other more serious sources appear - have asked . hi
                    2. Jedi
                      Jedi 23 December 2017 19: 43 New
                      +7
                      Quote: Inok10
                      I like how journalists pour fuel on the fire ... France and Germany demanded... in other more serious sources appear - have asked

                      The taste of the dish depends on which sauce to serve it with. wink
                      1. Inok10
                        Inok10 23 December 2017 19: 48 New
                        +5
                        Quote: Jedi
                        The taste of the dish depends on which sauce to serve it with.

                        ... there is such a letter ... wink ... they start to wash the electorate, Oh! ... to this topic ! ...
                        Bone.

                        About myself I’ll say without gloss:
                        Not a great mind.
                        Only even with this brain
                        Goryushka drank in full.
                        A cluster of my neurons
                        Like a very rare species
                        Everyone definitely needs
                        (It even flatters somewhere):
                        Brainworms, brain suckers,
                        Someone just makes the brain
                        And from the TV bandit
                        An explosion strives to arrange.
                        You enter the network - mines are everywhere,
                        He came and the brain was demolished.
                        Someone wants a good mine
                        Shake it with a paddle.
                        This one asks for a break,
                        He diligently blew.
                        This one wants to pour in urine
                        And, as a bonus, loose stools.
                        I'm not crazy and not drunk
                        But anger eats me:
                        Yes, leave you alone
                        My sugar bone!
                        Source: https://cont.ws/@ivane/798881
                        . wink
                    3. KaPToC
                      KaPToC 23 December 2017 21: 33 New
                      +3
                      Quote: Inok10
                      you feel the hand of a real painter from the Strategic Missile Forces ...

                      "Painters" from the Strategic Missile Forces are painted with larger strokes, and then the "painters" from ordinary artillery worked
            2. Going
              Going 23 December 2017 17: 23 New
              +8
              Greetings to Alexander! hi now let them dream, Poroshenko said the French and Germans, let them go.
              1. Lelek
                Lelek 23 December 2017 18: 37 New
                +3
                Quote: Going
                Poroshenko said the French and Germans, so let them go.

                hi
                N and to about dg. Never the Germans and the French, knowing the holes and the deceitfulness of the Kiev ushlepok, will not send their fighters to the provocative executions of Bandera. They (Merkel and Macron) are now persuading Putin to return our military to the "front", so as not to risk their own. However, France has already given Waltzman an assault on this issue.
              2. Romario_Argo
                Romario_Argo 23 December 2017 23: 12 New
                +1
                I already wrote koment on this subject
                yesterday the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Poland, today Germany and France
                and here is the comment: December 19 2017 15: 27
                we have the presidential election soon, and we are changing the rules of the "game"
                that Putin begged for help, stop this type of "lawlessness"
                or the Armed Forces of Ukraine themselves will impose "crap" before the elections and we will have to answer, then sanctions, entry bans for Russians around the world, and they will definitely not choose Putin
            3. Galan
              Galan 23 December 2017 19: 53 New
              +3
              Be sure to return, but headed by the units corresponding to their military ranks and on the appropriate equipment.
              1. rc56
                rc56 23 December 2017 21: 48 New
                +2
                Quote: galan
                Be sure to return, but headed by the units corresponding to their military ranks and on the appropriate equipment.

                Return! Will definitely return !!!
                The entire 8th combined arms army of the Southern Military District.
                Why trifle? Well, if they demand it, you must respect!
            4. bsk_una
              bsk_una 24 December 2017 12: 26 New
              0
              There is no turning back !!!!
          2. Going
            Going 23 December 2017 17: 26 New
            +9
            Thanks Maxim neighing.

            1. PValery53
              PValery53 23 December 2017 22: 02 New
              +1
              What a big crest!
            2. LeonidL
              LeonidL 24 December 2017 03: 15 New
              +1
              Yes, the diagnosis can be said on the face ... the poor victim of a failed surgical intervention in the late stages of pregnancy.
        2. CAT BAIYUN
          CAT BAIYUN 23 December 2017 17: 17 New
          10
          Okay, but you asked Russia.

          Apparently, they asked and were sent in a certain direction. Say VV something about returning - they would squeal about "peramoga". And only Petka was mentioned ... They say he is not against ... So he is not only not against ... He is “FOR” with all limbs. Because the withdrawal of the Russian military, already in the short term, could end sadly for him. VV thus declared that he no longer intends to negotiate, for there is no one with ...
          And the Europian has not yet met with Petka about everything. Therefore, nervous ... may not have time to agree.
          1. Going
            Going 23 December 2017 17: 27 New
            16
            The Poles have already decided and divided everything for everyone.

            1. CAT BAIYUN
              CAT BAIYUN 23 December 2017 17: 30 New
              11
              There will be no Polish sale of dreams laughing The Ukraine project started too late. Russia is not the same now. Strengthened and it is difficult to argue with her.
              1. Going
                Going 23 December 2017 17: 33 New
                +8
                We understand this, but the USA does not imagine what gift she made.
                1. CAT BAIYUN
                  CAT BAIYUN 23 December 2017 17: 43 New
                  16
                  The USA does not imagine what gift it made.
                  Well yes..
                  And the return of Crimea in fact was paid by America. Thanks to them, striped dogs, just inhuman.
                  1. Jedi
                    Jedi 23 December 2017 18: 00 New
                    +8
                    Vasya, good evening! hi drinks
                    Quote: CAT BAYUN
                    Thanks to them, striped dogs, just inhuman.

                    Only in this way, human thanks to the offspring of a female dog simply do not understand.
                    1. Monos
                      Monos 23 December 2017 18: 23 New
                      13
                      Hello colleagues! hi
                      They (Merkel and Macron) require the return of Russian officers to the Joint Center for the Control and Coordination of the Ceasefire in Donbass

                      Require ... belay Uh ... sorry, and who? Have Santa Claus? No, I understand that the ISIS "winners" are not comme il faut to somehow ask the GDP to return officers, but to throw their "demands" into the void ... the chancellor begins to confuse the coast.
                      They thought the worst thing is input of our troops, but it turned out that output even worse! laughing
                      1. Jedi
                        Jedi 23 December 2017 18: 32 New
                        +6
                        Victor, welcome! hi
                        Getting started with the bugs:
                        Quote: Monos
                        Have Santa Claus?

                        Sam-you-Klaus.
                        Quote: Monos
                        "winners"

                        winners
                        Quote: Monos
                        And about. the chancellor begins to confuse the coast.

                        An airbed floats where the wind, current, or orange-colored rower drives it.
                        Based on the number of errors, give yourself an estimate. lol drinks
                      2. Monos
                        Monos 23 December 2017 18: 49 New
                        10
                        Wait a minute, pour it in ... drinks So what are you talking about ...
                        Quote: Jedi
                        Airbed floats where the wind drives it

                        Quote: Jedi
                        Sam-you-Klaus.


                        Quote: Jedi
                        winners


                        She just pissed herself publicly in protest against the lawlessness of refugees. laughing
                      3. Going
                        Going 23 December 2017 20: 00 New
                        +7
                        This is called civilized Europe.
                    2. CAT BAIYUN
                      CAT BAIYUN 23 December 2017 20: 53 New
                      +6
                      Good evening, Maxim. hi
                      Only in this way, human thanks to the offspring of a female dog simply do not understand.

                      Well, yes. Ones, gentlemen, these are only stars and understand. Yes, it’s a shame: until they are the first to climb, it’s impossible to hang up stars
              2. Fayth
                Fayth 23 December 2017 17: 45 New
                +7
                And what does not like the script outlined on the map? In my opinion this is the best of the current prospects, and even if Ukraine would suddenly completely become part of the Russian Federation, I personally would not want to enter the western regions at all.
                1. CAT BAIYUN
                  CAT BAIYUN 23 December 2017 17: 51 New
                  11
                  I don’t like it and that's it.
                  I wonder:
                  But the Poles will not crack the scoreboard? Heartburn won't start? Shredded .. Logs ...
                  All he wants: "Polish from mozh to mozh"
                  The western regions should be cleaned from any abomination by the locals themselves. Well, Ukrainians are such inventors .. You set a task for them, give a kick as it should and explain the consequences. They’ll get down to business very quickly.
                  There is no need to surrender the territory of any .... Polish shushera.
                  But that's my personal opinion.
                2. yashka12007
                  yashka12007 23 December 2017 18: 29 New
                  +2
                  And I liked the map, but let the Poles understand the zapadents.
                3. Galan
                  Galan 23 December 2017 20: 14 New
                  +1
                  We Magadan camps, even taking into account those built at the time by orders of Lavrenty Pavlovich, is not enough to re-educate the new “bandervu”. So Galicia is not needed. Let Poland re-educate her. I think that a mistake similar to that of Bandera will not be repeated. Tom was replaced with the death penalty for life, but the Germans in 1939 released.
            2. 79807420129
              79807420129 23 December 2017 17: 49 New
              15
              Quote: Going
              The Poles have already decided and divided everything for everyone.

              Well Vitya offer a compromise option fellow
              They’ll do it, then we'll talk repeat
              1. Going
                Going 23 December 2017 18: 04 New
                +8
                And what I like.

            3. Sergey Medvedev
              Sergey Medvedev 23 December 2017 18: 24 New
              +3
              Quote: Going
              The Poles have already decided and divided everything for everyone.

              Poland a hole from a donut, not Lviv. And if they dare to open the borders, they will have to pick up Bialystok and Przemysl from them.
            4. Inok10
              Inok10 23 December 2017 19: 56 New
              +3
              Quote: Going
              The Poles have already decided and divided everything for everyone.

              ... yeah, right ... the right map of Poland ... hi
          2. Hoc vince
            Hoc vince 23 December 2017 17: 47 New
            +1
            Everyone is in command. Take it out of here, bring it back here.
        3. seti
          seti 23 December 2017 17: 17 New
          14
          Well, you need to show that they mean something there. But it's not that. The conclusion of our military suggests that serious changes are brewing, and neither Merkel nor Macron nor the EU and NATO like these changes.
          1. CAT BAIYUN
            CAT BAIYUN 23 December 2017 17: 33 New
            +7
            The conclusion of our military suggests that serious changes are brewing, and neither Merkel nor Macron nor the EU and NATO like these changes.

            They don’t like fig ... Translated from the diplomatic, the word "require" means nothing more than "we tryndets! Let's talk! Please!" Well, something like this. laughing
            So do not like it - not the right word. It remains only to support the DPR and LPR, add efforts to their lagitimization, and declare the authorities of Ukraine a terrorist and fascist organization.
            And there is still not everything divided. The gas pipeline has not yet been reissued to the Germans. They may not be in time.
          2. tol100v
            tol100v 23 December 2017 17: 58 New
            +2
            Quote: seti
            neither Merkel nor Macron nor the EU and NATO like these changes.

            If you move and even bounce, it means we are on the right path!
          3. Suhov
            Suhov 23 December 2017 17: 59 New
            +3
            Quote: seti
            The conclusion of our military suggests that serious changes are brewing ...

            In the program "meeting place" Nikolai Platoshkin said something like this (I do not remember literally):
            Events are brewing in Ukraine. Russia should keep an eye on it so as not to miss and return all its own to its homeland.
            Something like this... smile
        4. Sergey53
          Sergey53 23 December 2017 18: 58 New
          +1
          And why are officers from Germany and France not present there? The clarity of everything that happens to the leaders of their countries would be much faster and more reliable. Because would report directly, but not through Kiev. One can imagine that they are informed from there, and there is no truth.
        5. dSK
          dSK 23 December 2017 20: 44 New
          +2
          Quote: Going
          and you asked Russia

          "Klintsevich called the" important "call to return the Russian military to the JCCC". Trend and persuade to return. It’s necessary to set a counter claim - the entry of Russian peacekeepers in the Donbas to protect the OSCE mission.
      2. solzh
        solzh 23 December 2017 17: 00 New
        +6
        Quote: Pirogov

        But Shaw does Merkul have a wife?).
        Of course there is, his name is Joachim Sauer)))
      3. 210ox
        210ox 23 December 2017 17: 03 New
        +2
        Sexual drama straight .. laughing
        Quote: Pirogov
        Quote: solzh
        Let Merkel and Macron demand from their wives.

        But Shaw does Merkul have a wife?) And in the sense of your comment, I agree. Let the grandmother with a lover of grandmothers, demand from the Arabs.
      4. siberalt
        siberalt 23 December 2017 17: 17 New
        0
        It became difficult for Hugu. There was no one to write reports at the OSCE. lol
      5. volodya
        volodya 23 December 2017 17: 32 New
        +6
        Poland even asked, these generally require! Are they all right with the head?
        1. Hoc vince
          Hoc vince 23 December 2017 17: 51 New
          0
          And sanctions have not yet been imposed for the withdrawal of the Russian military from the JCCC?
      6. papas-57
        papas-57 23 December 2017 18: 17 New
        +2
        '' May a grandmother with a lover of grandmothers demand from the Arabs. '' Or each other. She will definitely suit him, but he will not get used, like all the pseudo-presidents of France of recent years, to run in the ranks of the Frau Chancellor.
      7. captain
        captain 24 December 2017 14: 35 New
        0
        Quote: Pirogov
        Quote: solzh
        Let Merkel and Macron demand from their wives.

        But Shaw does Merkul have a wife?) And in the sense of your comment, I agree. Let the grandmother with a lover of grandmothers, demand from the Arabs.

        The costs of Soviet education. If the Secretary General is necessarily a man.
    2. 210ox
      210ox 23 December 2017 16: 59 New
      +3
      Damn yourself .... Demand! So first stand in the pose of "KU" .. Patsaki! As if the mind had disappeared in a parallel world ..
      Quote: solzh
      Let Merkel and Macron demand from their wives.
      1. Iaaa
        Iaaa 23 December 2017 17: 08 New
        +6
        Germany and France demanded

        Right now ......., run and fall .....
      2. Hoc vince
        Hoc vince 23 December 2017 17: 53 New
        +2
        "Damn yourself .... Demand."
        How do you serve the petition to the king? (from)
    3. Conductor
      Conductor 23 December 2017 17: 14 New
      +1
      And there they will be a bummer, let the Arabs demand tolerance.
    4. sgazeev
      sgazeev 23 December 2017 18: 35 New
      +1
      Quote: solzh
      Let Merkel and Macron demand from their wives.

      It seems that Merkel’s husband is SHE. Absolutely a woman was branding. fool
    5. bmv04636
      bmv04636 23 December 2017 19: 59 New
      +1
      a little you were mistaken not with wives, but grandfathers (or grandmothers) laughing
    6. Xnumx vis
      Xnumx vis 23 December 2017 20: 30 New
      +1
      Mackerel and Macaron ... Neither fish nor meat ...
  2. svp67
    svp67 23 December 2017 16: 55 New
    10
    German Chancellor Angela Merkel and French President Emmanuel Macron demanded the return of Russian officers to the Joint Center for the Control and Coordination of the Ceasefire (JCCC) in the Donbass, according to a press release from the German government.
    We should also REQUEST the arrival of German and French officers in the JCCC and the exclusion of Ukrainians from it. Why not peacekeepers?
    1. jolly deckhand
      jolly deckhand 23 December 2017 16: 57 New
      +3
      Demand is not for us ...
    2. Going
      Going 23 December 2017 16: 57 New
      +4
      Poroshenko has already demanded.
    3. The comment was deleted.
  3. ul_vitalii
    ul_vitalii 23 December 2017 17: 04 New
    +6
    Where are you please? request
  4. CAT BAIYUN
    CAT BAIYUN 23 December 2017 17: 13 New
    13
    The departure of our military and the CCTS is a very revealing thing. Thus, VV declares that there is no one to negotiate with Ukraine and the authorities are not able to control their actions on the demarcation line. Which, in fact, has long been clear.
    This is what everyone is afraid of. And then interesting things can happen ... It’s harmful to fantasize, to predict what Russia did not really conceive there, but I want to look at the development of the situation ...
    And about to demand .... Apparently, they were sent .... And rightly so.
    1. katalonec2014
      katalonec2014 23 December 2017 17: 29 New
      +2
      Quote: CAT BAYUN
      to predict what Russia conceived there is not realistic at all,

      Yes, indeed this is not a thankful business, but one can still speculate.
      The Minsk agreements are dead, will be reconciled at all, and they are unprofitable for Ukraine, and therefore they will trample. Russia will have no choice but to intervene, so to speak, to force Ukraine into peace. Kasparov prophesies them to Russia as early as next year.
      1. CAT BAIYUN
        CAT BAIYUN 23 December 2017 17: 39 New
        +8
        but you can still assume

        You can .. I see so myself: strengthening the work on legitimizing the DPR and LPR, And declaring the authorities of Ukraine a terrorist and fascist organization. But in deed - yes - coercion to peace.
        But this is from the area of ​​my personal inventions. I do not impose on anyone. Just shared.
        1. katalonec2014
          katalonec2014 23 December 2017 17: 45 New
          +3
          Quote: CAT BAYUN
          Can..

          Why not, especially since according to the rules of the site, everyone has the right to their opinion.
          Quote: CAT BAYUN
          strengthening work on the legitimization of the DPR and LPR,

          This is our desire, so to speak, which hardly coincides with the opinion of the elite, as this will affect their income, and therefore the situation may be completely different.
    2. KaPToC
      KaPToC 23 December 2017 21: 41 New
      +2
      Quote: CAT BAYUN
      to predict what Russia conceived there is not realistic at all

      The KGB does not like obvious decisions.
  5. HAM
    HAM 23 December 2017 17: 16 New
    +3
    Let Macron demand from Merkel, and Merkel from Macron, it will be more logical and believable ..
    1. LSA57
      LSA57 23 December 2017 17: 30 New
      +4
      Quote: HAM
      Let Macron demand from Merkel, and Merkel from Macron-

      ..... and in bed laughing
      1. sgazeev
        sgazeev 23 December 2017 18: 44 New
        0
        Quote: LSA57
        Quote: HAM
        Let Macron demand from Merkel, and Merkel from Macron-

        ..... and in bed laughing

        Mozh on bunks in the castle of If. drinks
        1. LSA57
          LSA57 23 December 2017 18: 59 New
          +1
          Quote: sgazeev
          Mozh on bunks in the castle of If.

          in one camera laughing drinks
  6. katalonec2014
    katalonec2014 23 December 2017 17: 21 New
    +2
    Everything will be decided by military means. Therefore, they demand that they be returned, since at this time Ukraine is still (in their opinion) not ready.
  7. askort154
    askort154 23 December 2017 17: 22 New
    +2
    Well, Angela has ended a prolonged menopause. Revived, and immediately beat the plates. fool
  8. SCHMEL
    SCHMEL 23 December 2017 17: 24 New
    +8
    Angela and Emmanuel demanded the return of Russian officers
    smile smile smile
    Now only to Berlin and Paris! laughing laughing
  9. Simon
    Simon 23 December 2017 17: 26 New
    +1
    Quote: solzh
    They (Merkel and Macron) are demanding the return of Russian officers to the Joint Center for Control and Coordination of the Ceasefire Regime in Donbass (JCCC), which plays a very important role in supporting OSCE observers and ceasefire agreements

    Quote: solzh
    Let Merkel and Macron demand from their wives.

    I think you friend misunderstood! They demand from Kiev about the return of our officers back to Donbass, as observers fool
    1. Vita vko
      Vita vko 23 December 2017 17: 57 New
      +3
      Quote: Simon
      as observers

      Wrong. Poland, France and Germany need Russian officers only as hostages. In general, it is surprising that they were released. This military-diplomatic operation lasted almost two days. Which once again confirms that the Kiev junta as it was a criminal regime remains so to them, it is useless to talk to them, they even do not always listen to their masters in Washington.
  10. sotsprofspb
    sotsprofspb 23 December 2017 17: 34 New
    +1
    Of course they can demand, only now, who will give them.
  11. Terenin
    Terenin 23 December 2017 17: 36 New
    +5
    Oh, can you imagine how grateful the leaders of these two countries (well, let Poland be) to Putin, who gave them the opportunity to at least somehow remind themselves of the Ukrainian porridge brewed by them.
  12. UVB
    UVB 23 December 2017 17: 54 New
    +3
    In the self-proclaimed Donetsk People's Republic
    I'm annoyed by the term "self-proclaimed"! When the traitors declared independence of the RSFSR, the Ukrainian SSR, the BSSR, I don’t remember something that these republics called self-proclaimed. Like the United States in 1776, and many others.
  13. unignm
    unignm 23 December 2017 17: 58 New
    0
    sausages and legushniki generally do not have the right to demand something
  14. rocket757
    rocket757 23 December 2017 18: 09 New
    +3
    What I read, I did not understand who and what they required. Too blurred, too addressless!
    In short, the usual watered-useless mess to create the image of their own greatness. The layman \ foolish fool may think that these little babies can DEMAND something from GDP, it's cool after all!
    Maybe someone specifically where I read / saw / heard from WHO and WHAT do they require ???
  15. Nemesis
    Nemesis 23 December 2017 18: 11 New
    0
    You will demand at home, from your wife, and Russia owes you nothing
  16. Ural resident
    Ural resident 23 December 2017 18: 18 New
    0
    Let them provide security.
    Merkel let herself walk and control.
    There is nothing to humiliate our military.
  17. ibn.shamai
    ibn.shamai 23 December 2017 18: 24 New
    +1
    But the French and Germans do not want to participate in this! And Petya was hoping so! Already announced to the whole world! AGAIN again! lol tongue
  18. Troll
    Troll 23 December 2017 18: 38 New
    0
    Urgebut do not require.
    Feel the difference .. this is the case when journalists are called magazine magazines. You yourself normally translated the quote, but why write in the title of the article “require”? Kushi pick?
  19. Alexander War
    Alexander War 23 December 2017 19: 13 New
    0
    Some cunning ones, they decided to move out of the Minsk agreements and transfer everything to Russia! They did everything right that they brought our military out of the Central Control Commission
  20. Old military officer
    Old military officer 23 December 2017 19: 19 New
    0
    Even require? Get lost, however. It's funny to watch. Their business is calf, ... and hesitated and stood.
  21. Prutkov
    Prutkov 23 December 2017 19: 21 New
    0
    Is it weak for a Frenchman and a German to demand from their “NATO comrades” not to start a war in Ukraine by supplying weapons? It would be worth them to ask such a question.
  22. German Titov
    German Titov 23 December 2017 20: 04 New
    0
    Quote: seti
    Well, you need to show that they mean something there. But it's not that. The conclusion of our military suggests that serious changes are brewing, and neither Merkel nor Macron nor the EU and NATO like these changes.

    So ours would take care of their own. I agree - the "batch" may begin in the near future. At the borders of the "metal" is enough.
  23. Siberian
    Siberian 23 December 2017 20: 54 New
    +1
    But they don’t want to add their Macron and Merkel there? They are also the guarantors of Minsk ... Or are they already gone? Then who are they all? And what the hell dare to demand something?
  24. CAT BAIYUN
    CAT BAIYUN 23 December 2017 20: 57 New
    +5
    Monos,
    She just pissed herself publicly in protest against the lawlessness of refugees. laughing
    The disgusting scoreboard of Europe .... And these tricksters teach us something ?!
  25. Lexus
    Lexus 23 December 2017 21: 13 New
    +1
    Inok10,
    My statistics on moderators 50/50. They have the rule "good / evil policeman ... sometimes they will answer ... sometimes not. Apparently, it would be better ... would be in the bathhouse). good
  26. rc56
    rc56 23 December 2017 21: 37 New
    +1
    Quote: lexus
    Without Russian peacekeepers, nowhere. No, well, if you immediately go to Fashington.


  27. The Siberian barber
    The Siberian barber 23 December 2017 22: 32 New
    +2
    They probably like it when we “input and output” (sorry) laughing
  28. MOSKVITYANIN
    MOSKVITYANIN 23 December 2017 23: 24 New
    +1
    During the negotiations with Poroshenko, the parties concluded that Russian officers must return to Ukraine for further work

    And we need it?
  29. Pate
    Pate 23 December 2017 23: 34 New
    +2
    In order for our military to return to the JCC in Donbass, let Poroshenko first force them to not put them in the wheel, then they will return, but for now it makes no sense to return !!!
  30. Kelwin
    Kelwin 23 December 2017 23: 52 New
    +2
    Clowns are paid only for performed numbers, jump or something))
  31. earloop
    earloop 24 December 2017 00: 25 New
    0
    "They (Merkel and Macron) demand" - from whom? And after what?
  32. faterdom
    faterdom 24 December 2017 00: 29 New
    +3
    Germany and France demanded the return of the Russian military in the JCCC in the Donbass

    I like the word "demanded". They overgrown there beyond measure. And they should understand that the answer always needs some time: Napoleon in 1812 "demanded" - in 1814 they entered (to Paris), and Hitler in 1941 "demanded" - and the "observers" were introduced to Berlin in 1945 .
    In general, I understand them: everything and the crocodile tears about the need for our observers there are caused by a certain legitimization of the creeping offensive of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. And also, they are considered as possible hostages, always at hand.
  33. LeonidL
    LeonidL 24 December 2017 03: 11 New
    0
    Foolishness however? That fight in a hysteria "withdraw the Russian military from Ukraine", now again the tantrum "return the Russian military to Ukraine." Maybe it's time to really return, once and for all, to complete healing from the Nazi-Bandera plague?
  34. Karakut
    Karakut 24 December 2017 07: 37 New
    0
    Gone to return with tank columns to Kiev! They just got it ...
  35. Seraphimamur
    Seraphimamur 24 December 2017 07: 50 New
    0
    Russia is not a banana republic so that these Washington mongre demanded something from it.
  36. Azazelo
    Azazelo 24 December 2017 10: 19 New
    0
    Looks like some kind of dirty trick against our officers fell through ...
  37. Berkut24
    Berkut24 24 December 2017 10: 59 New
    0
    Germany and France demanded the return of the Russian military in the JCCC in the Donbass

    Who is required? Who are they knocking on?
  38. akm8226
    akm8226 24 December 2017 11: 05 New
    0
    Oh you fuck ... even demand? This is the first sign that the VP has correctly removed ours from there, right. Let these shortcomings require the bucket to comply with all decisions - and then it will be possible to think about returning, although in my opinion this is an empty idea - with something you can have nothing to do.
  39. Sewer krainiy
    Sewer krainiy 24 December 2017 13: 57 New
    0
    Quote: UVB
    In the self-proclaimed Donetsk People's Republic
    I'm annoyed by the term "self-proclaimed"! When the traitors declared independence of the RSFSR, the Ukrainian SSR, the BSSR, I don’t remember something that these republics called self-proclaimed. Like the United States in 1776, and many others.

    I agree, from the same opera ... In one of the programs, an idea was expressed (for some reason it was not discussed) why the Federal Republic of Germany and the German Democratic Republic are reunification and are recognized by the "whole world community", and Russia and Crimea are annexation and, of course , "condemned by the entire international community." In the first case, Germany was divided by the winners according to the Second World War, in the second - the territory of Crimea and its population were simply transferred from the RSFSR of the Ukrainian SSR by the decision of one person without the consent of the people, territorially more convenient. Then, however, no one could have thought that there would be three traitors and the collapse of the USSR.
  40. Wolka
    Wolka 24 December 2017 18: 09 New
    0
    and weakly to Fritz and frogmen to send their officers to the front of the Donbass, let them try to deal with Ukrainians, I think a lot will fall into place ...
  41. Topotun
    Topotun 25 December 2017 10: 14 New
    +1
    Demanded? Do they have the right to demand?