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Poroshenko reported successful trials of the missile complex

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President of Ukraine Petro Poroshenko announced the successful tests of the Alder missile system, all four missiles hit the target.


Congratulations to all Ukrainians with the successful testing of the Ukrainian Alder missile system. Just received a report that all four missiles hit the target
- Poroshenko wrote in his microblog on Twitter.

Poroshenko reported successful trials of the missile complex


We remind you that the new "high-precision rocket" of the Alder complex, in fact, is only an analogue of the projectile for the Soviet MLRS Smerch.

According to Ukrainian developers, the key difference from the Soviet development was that the new missiles are adjustable and can hit targets with much greater accuracy. According to the description of the new missile system, it will be able to replace the Smerch MLRS, as well as the Tochka-U tactical missile system, in service with the Ukrainian army, while demonstrating greater accuracy
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  1. Livonetc
    Livonetc 22 December 2017 18: 43 New
    +8
    Two hundred grams accuracy ..
    No soda.
    1. Shura Perm
      Shura Perm 22 December 2017 18: 45 New
      +6
      Oh, this nezalezhnosti, changed the name, they say a new complex ... humorous
      1. Logall
        Logall 22 December 2017 19: 30 New
        20
        You can humor ad infinitum, but when these drunk and stoned bitches batter in the Rostov Region, there will be no laughing matter! And I was going to buy an apartment there recourse
        1. Going
          Going 22 December 2017 20: 34 New
          10
          Maybe not only in Rostov and the ridiculous is really small, we are walking along the blade of a knife, breaking through.
          1. Logall
            Logall 22 December 2017 20: 42 New
            +9
            That they walk
            Quote: Going
            on the blade of a knife
            in which case, the Minsk agreements will not get off! Only surrender ...
            1. Going
              Going 22 December 2017 20: 47 New
              +8
              I think there will be a public flogging with the removal of port.
              1. Angel_and_Demon
                Angel_and_Demon 22 December 2017 22: 10 New
                15
                Quote: Going
                I think there will be a public flogging with the removal of port.

                they already with their "star-striped fish" and so got laughing
            2. 79807420129
              79807420129 22 December 2017 21: 08 New
              +8
              Quote: Logall
              Only surrender.

              Sanya, well, fuck them bastards on the Day of Power Engineers I congratulate you. yes drinks hi
              1. Captain Nemo
                Captain Nemo 23 December 2017 05: 11 New
                +1
                I am joining! Happy Energy Day! hi
        2. Overlock
          Overlock 22 December 2017 20: 41 New
          +4
          shelling of the territory of the Rostov region with priests were already. Foreign Ministry expressed concern, the dead buried
          1. Logall
            Logall 22 December 2017 20: 48 New
            +5
            Exactly, there were! In Donetsk, Rostov ... Television tried to silence this fact, As soon as possible ...
            But if something more serious than a mortar shell hits, then some notes of protest will not cost ... I think that a military band will play!
            1. Going
              Going 22 December 2017 21: 16 New
              +9
              It was, but it should no longer be.
            2. Angel_and_Demon
              Angel_and_Demon 22 December 2017 22: 12 New
              +7
              Quote: Logall
              I think that a military band will play!

              the main thing is that the conductor would intelligently correct everything
        3. Angel_and_Demon
          Angel_and_Demon 22 December 2017 21: 46 New
          +8
          Quote: Logall
          And I was going to buy an apartment there

          will have to wait, first the piglet for kebabs Miho need to feed
      2. Sands Careers General
        Sands Careers General 22 December 2017 19: 45 New
        17
        When a rocket from Smerch with a cassette warhead overhead howls, then it doesn’t get to whether it is new or old.
        1. Popovich
          Popovich 22 December 2017 20: 42 New
          +2
          that's for sure! answer p_d_r_m many times better!
          1. Sands Careers General
            Sands Careers General 22 December 2017 21: 21 New
            11
            With pleasure, that's just no order ...
            But if there is, we will tear on ribbons for a cap.
      3. Romario_Argo
        Romario_Argo 22 December 2017 19: 45 New
        +2
        Oh, this nezalezhnosti, changed the name, they say a new complex ...

        like show off a drunken monkey
      4. Geisenberg
        Geisenberg 22 December 2017 22: 05 New
        +1
        Quote: Shura Perm
        Oh, this nezalezhnosti, changed the name, they say a new complex ... humorous


        Read between the lines. There were only 4 missiles and they used up. )))
    2. Andrey K
      Andrey K 22 December 2017 18: 47 New
      11
      By Troshenko, the rocket launcher is still the same
      In principle, like a mortar man and a shipbuilder ...
      All the achievements are re-sticking labels from the USSR stocks, or openly wunderwaffles on the knee ...
      1. 210ox
        210ox 22 December 2017 18: 53 New
        11
        On missiles there are specialists and production. So this should be taken seriously. Another thing is how much can they do? Yes, and the cases with the “Hammer” "..." Alder "in their ass!
        Quote: Andrey K
        By Troshenko, the rocket launcher is still the same
        In principle, like a mortar man and a shipbuilder ...
        All the achievements are re-sticking labels from the USSR stocks, or openly wunderwaffles on the knee ...
        1. Aristarkh Lyudvigovich
          Aristarkh Lyudvigovich 22 December 2017 18: 56 New
          +3
          Well, they don’t seem to be able to create an analogue of “Point-U”. And they actively used this complex.
        2. Andrey K
          Andrey K 22 December 2017 19: 04 New
          10
          Quote: 210ox
          On missiles there are specialists and production. So this should be taken seriously. Another thing is how much can they do? Yes, and the cases with the “Hammer” "..." Alder "in their ass!

          I’m just the mortar "Hammer" and the boat "Gyurza", with which they gathered the Donbass with the Crimea to "beat off" and had in mind ...
          As you admit, competent specialists stayed there, but there really are problems with production. During Maydaunism, plants, including defense ones, began to be pulled away for scrap ...
          1. Equalized
            Equalized 22 December 2017 19: 14 New
            +4
            Do you know that the mortar "Hammer" was made by the left office, which is generally not adapted to the production of weapons? you never know what they crap with this. The fact that PAT Plant Mayak could not make a mortar does not mean anything. They tried to get into the arms market in the 2009 year, and then after the start of the ATO they finally managed to. They do not even have Soviet specialists, not to mention the equipment. It was a crime to let them start developing even such simple weapons as a mortar.

            In Ukraine, there are very reputable enterprises of the military-industrial complex and those who are working on the project of this missile complex belong precisely to this "elite" of ukrVPK. Specifically - KB "Luch", Pavlograd Chemical Plant, Artyom, Shostka Plant and others.
            1. Andrey K
              Andrey K 22 December 2017 19: 23 New
              12
              Quote: Equalized
              Are you aware that the mortar "Hammer" did the left office which is not at all adapted to the production of weapons? ....

              I am in the know, but not in the know Ukroboronprom probably laughing
              As for the "solid" enterprises belonging to the "elite" - something in recent years, no achievements, from the word in general ...
              Or maybe you know about breakthrough technologies and ideas of this "elite" of the Ukrainian defense industry?
              Enlighten, be so kind hi
              1. Equalized
                Equalized 22 December 2017 19: 25 New
                +3
                There is nothing breakthrough there, but what is there is good by the standards of post-Soviet defense industry. Specifically, the main developer of the Alder MLRS produces anti-tank systems and missiles for them, which the APU is incidentally supplied with, although the number does not go off scale (800-1000 missiles in 2015, 600-650 in 2016, 350-400 in 2017)
                1. Andrey K
                  Andrey K 22 December 2017 19: 31 New
                  10
                  Quote: Equalized
                  ... There is nothing breakthrough there, but what is there is good by the standards of the post-Soviet military-industrial complex. Specifically, the main developer of the MLRS "Alder" produces anti-tank systems ...

                  Man, so am I about the same ...
                  There is nothing breakthrough. Rivet, on the remnants of the former might of the military-industrial complex what grandfathers of the Soviet defense industry came up with. And then, through the fifth point ...
          2. revnagan
            revnagan 22 December 2017 19: 16 New
            +2
            Quote: Andrey K
            During Maydaunism, plants, including defense ones, began to be pulled away for scrap ...

            Yeah spitpots true wink
          3. Lexus
            Lexus 22 December 2017 20: 00 New
            11
            Petsya in his repertoire)
        3. revnagan
          revnagan 22 December 2017 19: 15 New
          +1
          Quote: 210ox
          Another thing is how much can they do?

          Time has not passed for nothing ...
        4. Normal ok
          Normal ok 23 December 2017 16: 35 New
          0
          Quote: 210ox
          On missiles there are specialists and production. So this should be taken seriously. Another thing is how much can they do?

          The Artyom plant in Kiev has already launched a production line for the production of rocket bodies. Line equipment - Turkish! Serial production is scheduled with 2018.
          1. the lord
            the lord 23 December 2017 19: 16 New
            0
            Yes, the hull in the rocket is the most important ... and serial ....
      2. The leader of the Redskins
        The leader of the Redskins 22 December 2017 19: 00 New
        +8
        No, gentlemen, good ... In Ukraine, shells for tornado, if I am not mistaken, did not produce spawn. And now the corrected ones arrived in time, so I advise you to hide the ambition in a box and think about it - didn’t the Kiselev lie that everything was ruined and stolen there?
        1. revnagan
          revnagan 22 December 2017 19: 17 New
          +1
          Quote: Leader of the Redskins
          didn’t Kiselyov lie that everything was ruined and stolen there?

          Got it? Not a year has passed ...
        2. 79807420129
          79807420129 22 December 2017 19: 19 New
          +6
          Quote: Leader of the Redskins
          so I advise you to hide the ambition in a box and think twice -

          You’ll have to think about it with your ambition and LDNR will think about it, but suddenly “Tornado S” may appear in LDN as well, the Indian hasn’t been at war yet. With such an aplomb it would be better to talk about the friendship of peoples.
          1. sabakina
            sabakina 22 December 2017 19: 33 New
            +3
            Vovka, as I understand it, the Leader advised the dill ...
            1. 79807420129
              79807420129 22 December 2017 19: 41 New
              +5
              Quote: sabakina
              Vovka, as I understand it, the Leader advised the dill ...

              Thank God he advised everyone. On the one hand, he is right, they can produce in small batches, not everything is completely plundered and drunk there, and not all specialists shuttle left. They will test Lugansk, they will again suffer peaceful, otherwise Kisilev, Kisilev, look better hohlotv here is where the light of truth. hi
              1. sabakina
                sabakina 22 December 2017 20: 19 New
                +5
                Vova, I agree with you, not everything they sold and was drunk, and the specialists are still alive. BUT! The question is, those specialists, Soviet minds, will make a 100% operational rocket? Nobody has canceled sabotage yet. Whatever cockroaches in their head would be found, we are all closely intertwined at the genetic level. Yes, “Muscovite” is shouting into the phone, but in the shower ... Cats scrape, relatives anyway. And Putin clearly said, "if anything, do not be offended by us." Something like that.
                1. Going
                  Going 22 December 2017 20: 36 New
                  +5
                  BUT! The question is, those specialists, Soviet minds, will make a 100% operational rocket? Nobody has canceled sabotage yet.


                  That's why I’m sure it will be so.
                  1. bddrus
                    bddrus 23 December 2017 16: 35 New
                    +1
                    yes something tanks are being repaired and driven, the city is the same, the same art. the warehouses were cleaned well and put into operation. the repair is certainly not at a high level, but there is no sabotage. no one wants to sit without work
                2. 79807420129
                  79807420129 22 December 2017 20: 38 New
                  +8
                  Quote: sabakina
                  Whatever cockroaches in their head would be found, we are all closely intertwined at the genetic level.

                  This and that is Glory, intertwined like that, Mama don’t cry, the branches are different, but the trunk and roots are one, and now one branch looks like the other branch is happy to shake itself and yells that the neighboring one is to blame.
                  Quote: sabakina
                  The question is, those specialists, Soviet minds, will make a 100% operational rocket

                  They will be Glory, they will do as you and I and all Soviet specialists, and they are used to doing it honestly and will do it. That's scary Glory, here in Donetsk and in the Armed Forces of Ukraine they are looking at each other through the sight, and their grandfathers and great-grandfathers probably shared ammunition in one trench, I’m talking about the Soviet, about the National Guard and ideological silence, these truly descendants of the Banderays, and ragul. hi
                  1. Going
                    Going 22 December 2017 20: 49 New
                    +5
                    Vlad, as I understand it, he meant technological sabotage.
                    1. sabakina
                      sabakina 22 December 2017 22: 07 New
                      +2
                      Victor, I will not be shy, but there is something in you ... Then we'll talk.
          2. Antares
            Antares 22 December 2017 22: 25 New
            0
            Quote: 79807420129
            "Tornado S" appears

            Kramatorsk, hit the airdrome and the mine
            became the basis of the clause in the Minsk agreements.
            1. bddrus
              bddrus 23 December 2017 16: 37 New
              0
              was there a boy? tornado is possible.
              and then a tornado! and Armat really came to grips.
        3. the lord
          the lord 23 December 2017 19: 20 New
          0
          That's when they will personally show the work of these missiles, then you’ll confront Kiseleva, and for now you will be giddy and gonos from the Polish bastard in alcoholic delirium
    3. 210ox
      210ox 22 December 2017 18: 54 New
      +2
      With a soda "arrival" faster .... With gas ...
      Quote: Livonetc
      Two hundred grams accuracy ..
      No soda.
    4. 79807420129
      79807420129 22 December 2017 18: 57 New
      16
      Just received a report that all four missiles hit the target

      He himself saw it personally. yes
      1. Going
        Going 22 December 2017 20: 37 New
        11
        He controls everything


        1. Monos
          Monos 22 December 2017 22: 00 New
          +6
          Holiday greetings...
          1. sabakina
            sabakina 22 December 2017 22: 11 New
            +3
            Vitya, hge, you dug up this ??? belay
            1. Monos
              Monos 22 December 2017 22: 24 New
              +3
              Hello, Glory! hi
              I have a playful mood since yesterday. laughing Having fun ...
      2. Angel_and_Demon
        Angel_and_Demon 22 December 2017 23: 17 New
        +8
        Quote: 79807420129
        He himself saw it personally.

        but he is not mistaken
    5. papas-57
      papas-57 23 December 2017 10: 57 New
      +1
      All missiles hit the target. And what was the purpose? The place where the rockets fell.
  2. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 22 December 2017 18: 45 New
    +1
    Screwed the adjustment block to the "Tornado". So what? And if the GPS is “corrected", will it certainly reach the target? laughing
    1. Equalized
      Equalized 22 December 2017 18: 48 New
      +7
      There is an inertial system along with GPS. Accuracy will fall if the GPS is cut off, but due to the ANN, the rocket will fall somewhere near the deviation for more.
      1. seos
        seos 22 December 2017 19: 17 New
        +1
        I think there is only GPS guidance - it's cheaper and easier ... with more inertial hassle .... so GPS mufflers need to be made by the militia ....
        1. Equalized
          Equalized 22 December 2017 19: 19 New
          +4
          It was the ANN with GPS that was declared, not just GPS, plus experts on the forums write that the ANN is definitely there. Maybe you’re right, of course, but I am inclined to have an ANN, because even Ukrainians will not be so stupid and will not rely solely on GPS, given that the United States will not give them access to the NAVSTAR military system, there is most likely a civilian channel. There can be no other options; few give the US access to the military network.
          1. Equalized
            Equalized 22 December 2017 19: 21 New
            +4
            They say that there is such a gyrocompass in the ANN, which was previously used at the Iskander-M OTRK.

            1. Vasyan1971
              Vasyan1971 22 December 2017 19: 29 New
              0
              Quote: Equalized
              They say that there is such a gyrocompass in the ANN, which was previously used at the Iskander-M OTRK.


              OBS?
              1. Angel_and_Demon
                Angel_and_Demon 22 December 2017 23: 28 New
                +7
                and the time of promotion of the gear? and binding to the lope launch point takes?
        2. Tusv
          Tusv 22 December 2017 20: 27 New
          +1
          Quote: seos
          I think there is only GPS guidance - it's cheaper and easier

          Is it cheaper? For satellite guidance you have to pay very decent grandmothers. Otherwise, the System may get angry that it works for free and will give out the coordinates somewhere there
        3. Angel_and_Demon
          Angel_and_Demon 22 December 2017 23: 25 New
          +7
          Quote: seos
          so GPS mufflers militia need to produce ....

          But is there a self-destruction system? so better EWs with changing coordinates
      2. bddrus
        bddrus 23 December 2017 16: 43 New
        0
        adjustment only at the initial segment - missile spread of missiles. displays t.s. to the optimal course, and then how it will fly
  3. katalonec2014
    katalonec2014 22 December 2017 18: 45 New
    14
    You can argue until you turn blue, but Ukraine has successes in terms of preparing for war, and it will certainly be. They understand that we will not return Crimea, but so far they have Donbass on the agenda. They no longer have the army that was in '14.
    1. Jedi
      Jedi 22 December 2017 18: 51 New
      11
      Quote: katalonec2014
      You can argue until you turn blue, but Ukraine has successes in terms of preparing for the war, and it will certainly be.

      If the US "squeezes" them - it will.
      Quote: katalonec2014
      They understand that we will not return Crimea, but so far they have Donbass on the agenda.

      In the Donbass, dill and can conduct a combat test of the "Alder", if they do not spare money, of course.
      Quote: katalonec2014
      They no longer have the army that was in '14.

      This fact is recognized even in LDNR. In a word - nothing good can be expected. negative
      1. katalonec2014
        katalonec2014 22 December 2017 18: 58 New
        +5
        Quote: Jedi
        In the Donbass, dill and can conduct a combat test of the "Alder", if they do not spare money, of course.

        They will surely spend it. As time has shown, they are not sorry for money for the war, one increase in the military budget to 5,5% of GDP already says a lot. It is clear that sending them a "thin intestine" in Crimea, but Donbass itself.
        1. Jedi
          Jedi 22 December 2017 18: 59 New
          +4
          Considering that they have already used the “Point” in the Donbass - most likely they will not pull with the “Alder” either.
  4. Equalized
    Equalized 22 December 2017 18: 46 New
    +3
    Video Launch.
    If you look closely, immediately after departure from the container, the gas-dynamic correction rudders in the rocket head begin to work. When starting the usual "Tornadoes" this does not seem to be.

    I noticed a similar on the Chinese MLRS with the adjustment.


    1. corporal
      corporal 22 December 2017 18: 59 New
      +4
      The funnel from supposedly direct contact is strange, already filled with water, and the head fairing is right there, with a fallen column, a little dusted with screenings.
      Khokhlyatsk window dressing.
      1. Kerensky
        Kerensky 22 December 2017 19: 57 New
        +2
        The funnel from the alleged direct hit is strange,

        Everything is more than strange there. If the head is in this state, then you need to look for blocks, let Musk choke on! Ukrainian reusable missiles are power!
    2. Aaron Zawi
      Aaron Zawi 22 December 2017 19: 13 New
      +3
      Quote: Equalized
      Video Launch.
      If you look closely, immediately after departure from the container, the gas-dynamic correction rudders in the rocket head begin to work.

      Well, somewhere like that.

      В открытых источниках звучали заявления о способности поражать цели на расстоянии более 100 км. Последнее время называются цифры от 120 до 170 км.
      Реактивный снаряд управляем на всей траектории полета с помощью газодинамических рулей и имеет инерциальное наведение с возможностью корректировки траектории в полете по сигналу GPS. При использовании только инерциальной системы наведения среднее отклонение ракеты составляет 50 м, при использовании GPS коррекции — около 7 м. Скорее всего, в основе инерциальной коррекции лежит лазерный гироскоп производства КБ «Арсенал», он же использовался на ракете-носителе «Днепр» и на российском оперативно-тактическом ракетном комплексе «Искандер» и других изделиях.
      Боеголовка: осколочно-фугасная или кассетная весом до 250 кг. Вес самой ракеты — 800—900 кг.




      1. sabakina
        sabakina 22 December 2017 19: 38 New
        +5
        Aron, I have a question. After all these bells and whistles, how much should the Smerch rocket increase in length, width, height?
        1. Aaron Zawi
          Aaron Zawi 22 December 2017 20: 22 New
          +1
          Quote: sabakina
          Aron, I have a question. After all these bells and whistles, how much should the Smerch rocket increase in length, width, height?

          I will not compose, but EXTRA works quite well with a conventional MLRS chassis.
          1. Kerensky
            Kerensky 22 December 2017 21: 27 New
            0
            but EXTRA works quite well with a conventional MLRS chassis.

            That is (judging by the photo) she has not yet come out, and the rudders have already turned on? Very interesting. Well, I’m not a missile, correct if something is wrong ...
      2. Monos
        Monos 22 December 2017 21: 34 New
        +5
        9М528 flies on 90 km, the mass of the powder charge is about 500kg. In order to increase the range to 120km, the charge must be increased by approximately 200kg. smile Here, high-energy ballistic powder does not help. smile
    3. Normal ok
      Normal ok 23 December 2017 16: 42 New
      0
      Quote: Equalized
      Launch video. If you look closely, immediately after departure from the container, gas-dynamic correction wheels in the rocket head begin to work. When launching the usual "Tornadoes" this does not seem to be the case. Noticed similar on the Chinese MLRS with adjustment.

      On 1: 17 minute the video.
  5. assa67
    assa67 22 December 2017 18: 46 New
    +3
    stuck a snuffbox to the adjustment engine? and the cheeks of the gunpowder were swollen, and a new liver exploded? (the benefit has accumulated in the atom) ..... but they will trample by the new year ....
    1. siberalt
      siberalt 22 December 2017 18: 51 New
      +1
      It’s very tiny head for a land mine! lol
      1. The leader of the Redskins
        The leader of the Redskins 22 December 2017 19: 02 New
        +2
        And the militia probably won’t think so ...
        1. assa67
          assa67 22 December 2017 19: 07 New
          +5
          falls on them and so God does not bring
        2. the lord
          the lord 23 December 2017 19: 37 New
          0
          Just a whim over the "new members"
  6. Equalized
    Equalized 22 December 2017 18: 52 New
    +2
    Hit Point Square 50x50



    1. Vasyan1971
      Vasyan1971 22 December 2017 19: 26 New
      +4
      Quote: Equalized
      Hit Point Square 50x50

      Meters, liters, kilograms? Where did the firewood come from?
      1. sabakina
        sabakina 22 December 2017 19: 41 New
        +7
        Vasily, it seems to me that this Georgian is trying to scare us before the fight ...
        1. Vasyan1971
          Vasyan1971 22 December 2017 20: 21 New
          +2
          Quote: sabakina
          Vasily, it seems to me that this Georgian is trying to scare us before the fight ...

          Or maybe he’s just fooling around for tricks?
  7. Overlock
    Overlock 22 December 2017 18: 53 New
    +4
    Quote: katalonec2014
    You can argue until you turn blue

    why argue? This is an objective reality. Ukraine is rearming. Given the role of Soviet Ukraine in the military-industrial complex of the USSR, one can only assume the possibilities of today's Ukraine. What is not, they will buy from the West, which is glad to raise a problem on the Russian border. He who does not see the obvious is blind. You can not underestimate the enemy
    1. 79807420129
      79807420129 22 December 2017 19: 08 New
      13
      Quote: Overlock
      This is an objective reality. Ukraine is rearming.

      This is exactly the case. yes hi
      Quote: Overlock
      Given the role of Soviet Ukraine in the military-industrial complex of the USSR, one can only assume the possibilities of today's Ukraine. T

      The possibilities are much smaller than even in 2000, the Soviet legacy is eaten up, sold and put into pockets. But in small series they can
      Quote: Overlock
      . What is not, they will buy from the West, which is glad to raise a problem on the Russian border

      The West itself will supply Ukraine with weapons and uniforms, as you said with joy, they are crested and need them for cannon fodder. Of course, it will not work against us, but against LDNR completely. hi
    2. the lord
      the lord 23 December 2017 19: 40 New
      0
      In order to buy something unnecessary, you need to sell something unnecessary again ... What do you think, is there something like that, it’s also unremarkable for your needs, but can you look at the hell?
  8. The brightest
    The brightest 22 December 2017 18: 55 New
    +1
    I like the author, he talks so trivially about Tornado ...
  9. CAPTIVE
    CAPTIVE 22 December 2017 19: 03 New
    +3
    Once again, a Boeing will be shot down or gouged across Poland ..! Oh Ukrainians do not believe Waltzman ..!
  10. izya top
    izya top 22 December 2017 19: 07 New
    +5
    Poroshenko reported successful trials of the missile complex
    and drank immediately yes
    1. Going
      Going 22 December 2017 20: 53 New
      +4
      He sees himself differently


  11. Overlock
    Overlock 22 December 2017 19: 09 New
    +1
    Quote: Leader of the Redskins
    didn’t Kiselyov lie that everything was ruined and stolen there?

    don't watch KiselTV. Biased
    1. the lord
      the lord 23 December 2017 19: 42 New
      0
      But do not tell me what Kisel-TV lied to you ... Or did you again mention Zhenya dill?
      1. Overlock
        Overlock 23 December 2017 20: 16 New
        0
        you like Kiselev, look. I do not like his manner and tendentiousness. And who is Zhenya?
        1. the lord
          the lord 23 December 2017 20: 39 New
          0
          Zhenya Kiselyov is a romantic from dill of the brain and the highest grade liberoid. Just a brain explosion to listen to him, how many TV screens were shot through while he was negotiating another phrase)))
          And about Dmitry, what’s his "tendentiousness" to you is not good. He does not say anything offensive to a Russian person. And he is not silent about our problems. The fact that he is from the Kremlin propaganda-duck does not mean at all that he is lying and dodging. And if in what he spotted, so give an example
          1. Overlock
            Overlock 24 December 2017 10: 45 New
            0
            look at him from the side. fresh look
  12. assa67
    assa67 22 December 2017 19: 15 New
    +7
    there is a tornado in the lowland, the pastor is also in it .... he sees hits through binoculars, then he flies on a turntable, and sees two craters ..... Where are four more? ... maybe in his brain? muzzles dyuzhe happy and satisfied ... "unique results" ... on the cut laughing
  13. sabakina
    sabakina 22 December 2017 19: 17 New
    +4
    Congratulations to all Ukrainians with the successful testing of the Ukrainian Alder missile system. Just received a report that all four missiles hit the target
    - wrote Poroshenko

    Target, after reading his president on Twitter, with a sense of duty, went to the warehouse to sleep.
  14. Non liberoid Russian
    Non liberoid Russian 22 December 2017 19: 19 New
    0
    at least one division is technically riveted?
    1. Equalized
      Equalized 22 December 2017 19: 22 New
      +2
      Use old launchers from "Tornado" on the MAZ chassis. They have more than 50 installations. The trouble with the missiles, they are over. Therefore, we started this entire program on the ROC Alder in order to replenish the reserves of the 300mm MLRS.
      1. sabakina
        sabakina 22 December 2017 19: 47 New
        +3
        As far as I understand, the production of rockets for the Smerch MLRS was in the RSFSR. Conclusions? put their bells and whistles on the last missiles and advertise as yours!
        1. Equalized
          Equalized 22 December 2017 19: 59 New
          +3
          Missiles will make new ones ... they developed their own solid propellant rocket engines (in Pavlograd), warheads (Shostka). Cases will be made at the Artyom plant in Kiev (KB Luch production site)

          To mass production and adoption is far.
          1. Normal ok
            Normal ok 23 December 2017 16: 48 New
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            Quote: Equalized
            Missiles will make new ones ... they developed their own solid propellant rocket engines (in Pavlograd), warheads (Shostka). Cases will be made at the Artyom plant in Kiev (KB Luch production site)

            To mass production and adoption is far.

            I already wrote above that a Turkish (Turkish Karl! Erdogan ours) corps production line was mounted on Artyom. A trial series has already been done. They want to start mass production in 2018.
            1. the lord
              the lord 23 December 2017 19: 46 New
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              And where will these sewer pipes be to you? Oh, trouble with you with cockles. Scoop water out of the funnel to begin with, so that the whole world can brag about it))))
  15. Vasyan1971
    Vasyan1971 22 December 2017 19: 23 New
    +3
    "I congratulate all Ukrainians on the successful test of the Ukrainian Alder missile system. I just received a report that all four missiles hit the target."
    What a goal, I can’t say, for a secret secret!
    1. Kerensky
      Kerensky 22 December 2017 20: 02 New
      +4
      What a goal, I can’t say, for a secret secret!

      Come on! We were taught by the military instructor at school that the nuclear bomb always falls into the epicenter! What is the secret ?! Missiles hit the craters!
      1. Vasyan1971
        Vasyan1971 23 December 2017 00: 03 New
        +3
        Quote: Kerensky
        Come on! We were taught by the military instructor at school that the nuclear bomb always falls into the epicenter! What is the secret ?! Missiles hit the craters!

        Really. What am I ... I must admit - sniper shooting, reloadable.
  16. razved
    razved 22 December 2017 19: 37 New
    0
    Someone repeats them, because there was already a “successful” test, no?
    1. Equalized
      Equalized 22 December 2017 19: 44 New
      +3
      This is the last stage of factory tests under the supervision of the chief designer of the design bureau. Further already state tests in 2018 year. Will they not immediately accept weapons? It’s one thing to get help on YouTube, it’s another thing to check everything well, to work out the characteristics.
  17. Berkut24
    Berkut24 22 December 2017 19: 41 New
    +1
    A madhouse is an institution where patients can be constantly pleased with the same nonsense cheaply and every day.
  18. Wolka
    Wolka 22 December 2017 19: 46 New
    0
    somehow wonderful, multiple launch rockets with launchers suddenly become analogues of the point-y, oh, these Ukrainian magicians ...
  19. Herculesic
    Herculesic 22 December 2017 19: 55 New
    +3
    In addition to weapons, they launched something really useful into production? fool Found, drunk, what to rejoice-that now more people will die under their rockets! fool
    1. CAPTIVE
      CAPTIVE 22 December 2017 20: 36 New
      +2
      Quote: Herkulesich
      In addition to weapons, they launched something really useful into production? fool Found, drunk, what to rejoice-that now more people will die under their rockets! fool

      Such is the plan of Dulles .. And the waltzman is fulfilling it! The war with Russia until the last Ukrainian ..
      And at the same time, psheks tear farts .. They need Lviv, etc.
      1. The Siberian barber
        The Siberian barber 22 December 2017 21: 02 New
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        There it’s the turn ... Simply, the Psheks, as always, have an appetite, exorbitant. Well, Honor, how can they do without him?))
  20. lopvlad
    lopvlad 22 December 2017 20: 13 New
    +2
    the key difference from the Soviet development was that the new missiles are adjustable


    then the fuse can be activated over the heads of the calculation, which these missiles will risk launching.
    1. Kerensky
      Kerensky 22 December 2017 21: 39 New
      0
      It’s even more interesting. How to move something? Well, my dear flew and then I need to move it 150-0 to the right and closer 200 ..... From the smartphone? Where to download the application?
      Pancake! This is MLRS! Everything is said in the title!
      Let's, in response, create adjustable munitions for TOC, to be more precise. Is it necessary?
  21. Overlock
    Overlock 22 December 2017 20: 22 New
    0
    Quote: sabakina
    Whatever cockroaches in their head would be found, we are all closely intertwined at the genetic level. Yes, the Muscovite is shouting into the phone, but in the shower ..

    Special cases suggest otherwise - families do not communicate, dialogue is not possible
  22. Overlock
    Overlock 22 December 2017 20: 43 New
    +1
    Quote: sabakina
    Nobody has canceled sabotage yet

    in the Kharkov tank plant sabotage is not visible. work in 3 shifts, drummers. Everything for the front, everything for the victory
    1. The Siberian barber
      The Siberian barber 22 December 2017 20: 57 New
      0
      There, the "principled" man, in response!
      Suddenly, a new bullet while jogging ??!)
  23. Glory to Berkut
    Glory to Berkut 22 December 2017 20: 51 New
    +1
    Poroshenko:
    "I congratulate all Ukrainians on the successful test of the Ukrainian Alder missile system.
    Just got all four rockets ... "
  24. The Siberian barber
    The Siberian barber 22 December 2017 20: 55 New
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    Here ,, or how ??
    Not what Peter Lekseyech needs to think about!
    People are impoverished, the chair is staggering, and he dreams of rockets)
    No matter where, entu rocket, they didn’t attach him laughing
    I think that there will be a little saddened)
  25. APASUS
    APASUS 22 December 2017 21: 38 New
    +3
    In order to make a stool, you need a log, a tool and hands!
    In order to make 100 stools, you need to build a plant, with a couple of dozens of football fields.
    The most important thing is that the country has completely lost its scientific base, there are no trained specialists, they simply have nowhere to come from, and the release of experimental batches of rockets does not mean anything. Mass production is the next level
    A video with Turchinov is cool!
    Now, if they found a rocket engine splattered at the place of impact, I was not surprised, and when they found a head protector, it’s not even a hat, it’s just rotten !!! The missile hits the target with its tail, the head remains intact, howo ?!
  26. Terenin
    Terenin 22 December 2017 21: 53 New
    +4
    From a military point of view. Well, you started, well, let it be successful, what's next? Are we glad? No, not happy and know why. If you do not know, go to LDNR. We will not tearly lament either, Shoigu reported today at the board that we in Syria were not a dozen missiles where we got to. So, think with your head when you execute an order to carry out combat use.
    From a political point of view. Of course, Poroshenko, as vividly and loudly as possible, convinces the West with these tests that he’s “able to protect Europe from Russia, so give money and accept it to the EU.”
  27. polkovnik manuch
    polkovnik manuch 22 December 2017 21: 58 New
    0
    No need to deceive yourself, banderlogs are preparing for a serious war, in the hope that Russia will get involved. We need to prepare and prepare the guys seriously so that we can quickly go to the banks of the Dnieper and liberate the city of Odessa, leave the Outskirts within the borders of 1654! I think: Poles, Hungarians and Romanians will not leave their “primordial lands” to banderlogs.
    1. Machete
      Machete 22 December 2017 22: 36 New
      0
      Let him get ready for anything. After our official intervention, Durkain will immediately become half smaller.
      Do they want to get rid of half of the territory so that they don’t spend money?
    2. the lord
      the lord 23 December 2017 19: 52 New
      0
      You are so upset after this article. My hint, you are on the branch above the video, look, can you see the rocket near the funnel? Is there a lot of her there?
      We must please them with all sorts of "normal ok" s and other burdocks at least something. And they are even happy with all the chakras, even ready to swallow frank without chewing
  28. pvv113
    pvv113 22 December 2017 22: 28 New
    +2
    President of Ukraine Petro Poroshenko reported on successful trials

    Report - do not toss bags
  29. Machete
    Machete 22 December 2017 22: 35 New
    +1
    Again the old song.
    Nobody will do it anyway. Such weapons are not just worth a lot of money. It costs fabulously big money. Moreover, for a poor country, and even more so when it is used in war.
  30. Al shurshun
    Al shurshun 22 December 2017 23: 25 New
    +2
    Quote: Logall
    fucking in the Rostov region, will not be laughing! And I was going to buy an apartment there
    here, here you have to buy property beyond the line of the maximum flight range - 150 km repeat
  31. Al shurshun
    Al shurshun 22 December 2017 23: 28 New
    +2
    Quote: Going
    we walk along the blade of a knife, break through
    here, there are already road signs on the border in two languages ​​- “Hai spare” and “Don’t h ... d go,” maybe there’s no need to break through repeat
  32. Al shurshun
    Al shurshun 22 December 2017 23: 32 New
    +2
    Quote: Logall
    agreements do not get off! Only surrender ...
    a constant thirst for severity, then Chechnya, now Ukraine - where to get so many budgets for reparation repeat
  33. Al shurshun
    Al shurshun 22 December 2017 23: 34 New
    +2
    Quote: Going
    there will be a public flogging with the removal of port
    for sure, Chechnya was flogged, now - Ukraine ... repeat
  34. Al shurshun
    Al shurshun 22 December 2017 23: 39 New
    +2
    Quote: Logall
    more serious than a mortar shell, then some notes of protest will not do ... I think
    then from Gukovo "Grad" threw (Google to help) and began to think only now repeat
    1. the lord
      the lord 23 December 2017 19: 58 New
      0
      And here you look wow how he got up to speed quickly forget about the boilers, banderlozhki)))). I’ll hint to you too, look at the vidak with the corpse in these tests and ask yourself, but where is the racket in the place of the funnel? And then you can again admire your jsc ukrzbruynah ..
  35. aszzz888
    aszzz888 23 December 2017 11: 34 New
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    Just received a report that all four rockets hit the target

    ... as in that old joke: today there will be no aviation - the pilot fell ill ... bully
  36. Retvizan 8
    Retvizan 8 23 December 2017 18: 48 New
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    Now Parashenka under this topic is still allocated to his plant from the budget to fight against acupants. People are jumping happily, rattling pots, and Waltsman’s pennies are ringing in his wallet!
  37. Height
    Height 23 December 2017 22: 27 New
    +1
    Inventors for life. They will fly on this rocket in the Sun, and so as not to burn, they will fly at night ...
    1. LeonidL
      LeonidL 24 December 2017 03: 31 New
      0
      Rogul he always rogul - You are right.
  38. LeonidL
    LeonidL 24 December 2017 03: 30 New
    0
    What to take from such a "commander in chief"? For him and the "alder" tree of the latest breed ...