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A new batch of BMP-3 has been sent to the troops.

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Military representation at the Kurgan Machine-Building Plant took a batch of infantry fighting vehicles BMP-3, reports Messenger of Mordovia with reference to the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation.


A new batch of BMP-3 has been sent to the troops.


Specialists of the 3949 military mission of the Ministry of Defense of Russia stationed at Kurganmashzavod JSC carried out a technical acceptance of the BMP-3 infantry fighting vehicles as part of the state defense order,
says release.

Under the leadership of the military mission, all the products passed the factory tests and were transferred to the troops in full configuration.

It is reported that “the customer’s representative was handed over the final batch of 9 infantry fighting vehicles BMP-3 as part of a three-year contract.”



At the enterprise, also “loading and installation of sealed-up equipment onto railway platforms took place,” the agency added.

Press service reference: “BMP-3 is intended for transportation of personnel of units, their fire support, destruction of openly located and sheltered manpower, anti-tank weapons, tanks, lightly armored vehicles, as well as low-speed air targets of the enemy.

The combat vehicle is equipped with an 100-mm gun, an 30-mm automatic cannon and a PKT 7,62-mm machine gun. The gunner’s sight with a thermal imaging camera makes it possible to use the BMP-3 in all weather conditions, both day and night. ”
Photos used:
vestnik-rm.ru, tanksdb.ru
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  1. mih_sergeev92
    mih_sergeev92 22 December 2017 15: 33 New
    +2
    It’s good that the rearmament program is still working. How many years this will continue is another matter. Our country needs a strong army. But not only the army. This means that money must also be spent on other areas - education, medicine, infrastructure .. Without this, in the future it will also be tight as without BMP.
    1. katalonec2014
      katalonec2014 22 December 2017 15: 47 New
      +1
      Quote: mih_sergeev92
      How many years will this go on

      The program is designed until 20 years, then the defense industry enterprises will have to look for buyers on the foreign market on their own. Purchases of equipment will of course be, for example, in exchange for the lost, but not in the volumes that are now.
      1. 210ox
        210ox 22 December 2017 15: 54 New
        +2
        Not quite so. A new weapons program is being adopted. And these productions are likely to enter it. A new generation is on the way. And with the old one, yes. We’ll have to look for a buyer.
        Quote: katalonec2014
        Quote: mih_sergeev92
        How many years will this go on

        The program is designed until 20 years, then the defense industry enterprises will have to look for buyers on the foreign market on their own. Purchases of equipment will of course be, for example, in exchange for the lost, but not in the volumes that are now.
    2. svp67
      svp67 22 December 2017 15: 55 New
      +3
      Quote: mih_sergeev92
      This means that money must also be spent on other areas - education, medicine, infrastructure ..

      Little to spend; they still need to be spent EFFECTIVELY. Having a defense budget of 2,8% of GDP, we have a greater return than 3% of GDP spent on medicine, and how do we live with this?
      1. bk316
        bk316 22 December 2017 16: 03 New
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        Having a defense budget of 2,8% of GDP, we have a greater return than 3% of GDP spent on medicine, and how do we live with this?

        Say why?
        The main obstacle to the development of medicine is MEDICAL WORKERS.
        Now, in order to apply modern medicines, devices, methods, you need to read scientific articles every week (my friend, a very good doctor, says that every day). What do you think when the therapist from the district clinic read a scientific article for the last time?
        And the best case at the institute was indeed the last one.
        Such people already can’t be retrained; they must be expelled from medicine, and why they don’t?
        And because every attempt starts a wild howl: the government kills free medicine. So we live with medicine, which still does not treat anything, but ALREADY not free.
        1. ARES623
          ARES623 22 December 2017 17: 54 New
          +4
          Quote: bk316
          The main obstacle to the development of medicine is MEDICAL WORKERS.

          Your idea of ​​problems in medicine at the level of the concepts of a bear in ballet. May God grant you health and let loose in the ambulance on this topic ....
          1. bk316
            bk316 25 December 2017 11: 20 New
            +2
            May God grant you health and let loose in the ambulance on this topic ....

            You are the guru of medicine, look at my profile picture (is there anything familiar?), Then you will write about the ambulance. And in order to understand that I am writing the truth, I don’t need an ambulance to go to the regional clinic.
            1. ARES623
              ARES623 25 December 2017 17: 06 New
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              Quote: bk316
              And to understand that I’m writing the truth, I don’t need an ambulance

              This is not true, but your idea of ​​the ideal. Unattainable ideal. Demand that a KMN therapist sit on each site. Heresy heres. The success of medicine is a comprehensive product. And all the participants in solving this problem there may be brakes or engines. Doctors have such a riddle: why does a doctor almost always work at 1,5 rates? Because there is nothing for 1 bet, but once there is no time ... And each doctor is also a mother (father) + wife (husband) + solver of all domestic problems of his own content (if he lives separately from mom and dad). And you yourself have long read articles in scientific journals, maybe science is “moving”? From your commentary, only one thing is clear that you are a unique doctor-innovator, and you are surrounded by a crowd of colleagues lazy ignoramuses, and even in hospitals, in general, funeral workers in white coats. Are you imagining yourself too much? With your horizons, you’re not very ... Or you would understand that the development of medicine is almost not a medical issue, but rather a legal + economic + scientific and technological one, and the number of doctors is 2th among doctors.
              1. bk316
                bk316 25 December 2017 20: 23 New
                +2
                This is not true, but your idea of ​​the ideal.


                This ideal has been achieved a lot.

                And now, dohtur, let's start, what's on my profile picture?
                What was the operation? Where are these held? What material ? What quotas were used?

                If you answer, it makes sense to say, I will give you several examples of how tens of millions of $ were wasted (not even stolen) and how the lives and health of people were destroyed due to the incompetence of the primary link. DIRECTLY WITH SPECIFIC EXAMPLES I WRITE. AND I WILL MEET THE PEOPLE WHO OPERATE FOR 8 HOURS, they teach and have time to read these same articles every day.
                Only first confirm that you are a DOCTOR and not a racket.

                And more about the "rates" and "the kids want to eat," it's you about the losers, which you can’t write to patients. There are such losers in every profession; I myself have come across programmers who cannot write any programs, only they are all driven into the neck. AUTO OF DOCTORS SUCH WHY SOMETIMES FOR YOUR OPPORTUNITY. Although everything in reality is exactly the opposite: a programmer can someday learn something and a doctor by that time will already take many lives
                1. ARES623
                  ARES623 25 December 2017 20: 36 New
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                  Quote: bk316
                  If you answer it makes sense to say

                  And where did you get the idea that it makes sense to speak specifically with you? You think of yourself a lot. Nimbus is not squeezing?
                  1. bk316
                    bk316 26 December 2017 16: 26 New
                    +2
                    The drain is counted.
                    Pick yourself a man who will look in your mouth and agree in everything with the great god of war and the guru of medicine with a vast outlook. You are probably looking for exactly that meaning.
                    1. ARES623
                      ARES623 26 December 2017 17: 28 New
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                      Quote: bk316
                      Pick a man who will look in your mouth

                      I will try to clarify my position. Firstly, I didn’t say anywhere that I, as you sarcastically called, “dohtur.” So with your x-rays, it’s not for me. However, management theory is the same everywhere, regardless of the type of activity. You load all the bumps on the medical staff. In fact, the category of health workers is a certain mass of people, not good and not bad, but having a motivational hierarchy and placed in a certain framework of the legal and economic field. This field will be favorable for this motivational hierarchy, there will be an excess of people who want to be in this category of people, it will be possible to choose the most capable from the applicants and then present them with higher requirements. There are no professional groups, good or bad. There are factors contributing to the achievement of a particular result, and objective conditions for the creation of these factors. This is all the management system in the state that lies on a specific economic base. Will this base afford high standards of care? Do the mid-level and top-level management have the brains to rebuild the system? - therapists will read scientific journals. For the sake of objectivity, it would be worth recognizing that medicine is one of the few industries that force periodic training. According to the plan, at certain times, with a trip to a specialized educational institution, where they study not remotely and not 72 hours, and sometimes up to six months (depending on specialization). Do not unlearn, do not receive a certificate - fly out of the profession. This is the law. Do you know many such specialties? No matter how you blame them, but they treat you. And those whom you want to give as an example also used to be losers and have their own cemeteries. Soldiers are not born. This is a dialectic .... And if you are a representative of the "electronic-software" clan, then it is certainly not for you to throw a stone in medicine. That is my opinion.
        2. passerby5
          passerby5 23 December 2017 17: 41 New
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          yes yes, free medicine begins with paid ... bahillill)))
      2. karabas-barabas
        karabas-barabas 22 December 2017 17: 40 New
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        The defense budget of the Russian Federation is more than 5% and this is without taking into account any special and classified programs, as well as all kinds of law enforcement agencies. And the effectiveness of injections of dozens of lard greens, if not hundreds, is not very, if you look at the result, at the real, and not propaganda.
        1. Sergey Medvedev
          Sergey Medvedev 23 December 2017 00: 01 New
          +2
          Quote: karabas-barabas
          And the effectiveness of injections of dozens of lard greens, if not hundreds, is not very, if you look at the result, at the real, and not propaganda.

          The US defense budget is 10 times larger than that of Russia.
          And there are only 3 times more aircraft.
          And there are generally fewer tanks than ours.
          There are more ships, but not 10 times. )))
          So who has military spending more efficiently?
    3. 210ox
      210ox 22 December 2017 15: 59 New
      0
      You raised a very vital issue .. We unfortunately form a gap between the military and the peaceful, between the spheres of our lives. This cannot be allowed .. And the thesis: "Well, you stay there" from the lips of the leader does not tolerate any criticism ..
      Quote: mih_sergeev92
      It’s good that the rearmament program is still working. How many years this will continue is another matter. Our country needs a strong army. But not only the army. This means that money must also be spent on other areas - education, medicine, infrastructure .. Without this, in the future it will also be tight as without BMP.
      1. bk316
        bk316 22 December 2017 16: 26 New
        +3
        This must not be allowed.

        Already admitted, and now 40 years ago
      2. Graz
        Graz 22 December 2017 20: 21 New
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        109 billion dollars is in US bonds, who prevents them from withdrawing and investing in Russia?
        so ask these people about education, medicine and more
        and the army must still receive su, 35, 57, t-14,15, Kurgan, boomerang, warrior and other weapons systems, this is not for 2-3 years but 15 years minimum
      3. passerby5
        passerby5 23 December 2017 17: 44 New
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        yes yes, behind such words (no money .... shake) -in fact, there is a real attitude to a resident of the country of which they were entrusted to rule the creatures
    4. siberalt
      siberalt 22 December 2017 16: 59 New
      +3
      Piece delivery of infantry fighting vehicles to the Army of the great state is already something! belay But even in this matter, it is imperative to report to the media. How else?
      1. turbris
        turbris 22 December 2017 17: 40 New
        +3
        sibiralt - yes, of course, and 500 BMP-3 - is a piece delivery, and when did your state become great? The first time I hear from you, the oligarchs also robbed him and didn’t let people live, something you relaxed.
        1. Graz
          Graz 22 December 2017 20: 22 New
          +4
          500 pcs since 87 you yourself is not funny?
    5. 73bor
      73bor 23 December 2017 08: 15 New
      0
      And the people who create these weapons work for free? Count how many enterprises are involved only in the creation of one aircraft, -dozens! And consequently thousands of people, it is not necessary to firmly believe in stupidity told by people who are not versed or simply traitors!
  2. Lord of the Sith
    Lord of the Sith 22 December 2017 15: 44 New
    +3
    It was they who completed the contract for the supply of 500 BMP-3 units.
    1. svp67
      svp67 22 December 2017 15: 57 New
      +2
      Quote: Sith Lord
      It was they who completed the contract for the supply of 500 BMP-3 units.

      It would be nice now for a similar contract for BMP-3M, before the start of production of Kurganets
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  4. Sergio3986
    Sergio3986 22 December 2017 17: 05 New
    +1
    9 pcs - company kit (Where are the battalion and regiment kits? crying
    1. turbris
      turbris 22 December 2017 17: 37 New
      +1
      Sergio3986 - and there will be no answer, because he still will not suit you, because you are looking for something to complain about? There are more than enough such opportunities.
  5. Lexus
    Lexus 22 December 2017 19: 53 New
    0
    Like with "Sodema" should be (as in the top photo).
  6. gorsten79
    gorsten79 22 December 2017 22: 01 New
    +1
    It is reported that "the final batch of 9 BMP-3 infantry fighting vehicles was delivered to the customer’s representative as part of a three-year contract." -And how much7 Under this three-year contract? BMP-2 in the 80s drove 150-200 per month.
    1. Golovan Jack
      Golovan Jack 22 December 2017 22: 45 New
      +7
      Quote: gorsten79
      BMP-2 in the 80s drove 150-200 per month

      For the whole Union. Plus, I think mnu, and for some from the Warsaw Pact.
      The union is not over. The Warsaw Pact, too.
      The question is: what for house of files RF so many infantry fighting vehicles?
      1. Pancir026
        Pancir026 22 December 2017 23: 04 New
        +2
        Quote: Golovan Jack
        The question is: what for in the house there are so many BMP files in the Russian Federation?

        It’s good that they don’t ask you why, but restore what you like destroyed
        . He fed up at 90? Is there hunting again? Under the wing to the amers?
        1. Golovan Jack
          Golovan Jack 22 December 2017 23: 26 New
          +9
          Quote: Pancir026
          . Satisfied ate 90? Is there hunting again? Under the wing to the amers?

          And who do you even have to ask me something ... Armor?
          Drop dead ... eaten. At work, a complete default, in the market, he sold junk from home to feed his wife and daughter. And so for two years.
          Then the pain got better with work, too - not by itself.
          The principle "do not drown - do not rush" has not been canceled.
          So what about BPM, by the way? wink
          1. Pancir026
            Pancir026 23 December 2017 03: 14 New
            +2
            Quote: Golovan Jack
            So what about BPM, by the way?

            Is it better to have an IFV than to lick the occupier’s boots, or is another case pleasing to you?
            Does the answer suit you?
            And don’t press on a tear, they say oh.in 90..you are now more than attached, serving the interests of those to whom the interests of the country do not coincide too much with their interests.
            1. Golovan Jack
              Golovan Jack 23 December 2017 15: 08 New
              +7
              Quote: Pancir026
              you are now more than attached

              It is a sin to envy. Learn .NET (by heart), other fenesci - cheekbones (XPCs from lines like 150 are ours), web services - too, to bounce off your teeth.
              Find out what Internet sales are, how they are generally organized, what an “outsourcing warehouse” is, and how it works ... come in handy ...
              Program a couple of years in Axapta, at least 2009 (better, of course, in 2012) - and come to me, get a job ... maybe I’ll take it wink
              Contract, VHI, white salary - everything is fair.
              Quote: Pancir026
              ... serving the interests of those for whom the interests of the country do not coincide too much with their interests ...

              The interests of the office, which I am working on now, completely coincide with the interests of the country.
              The office needs people to not expand and drink, but to play sports.
              The office sells sports equipment and clothing. Three own brands ... not acidic, in general, an office. And quite loyal to the legislation.
              So Armor... so far there’s nothing to talk about with you. Learn a little - run, chat yes
    2. Dreamboat
      Dreamboat 22 December 2017 22: 52 New
      0
      Do not confuse mass rearmament and supplies to maintain combat effectiveness.
      Brought to mind and to a series of Kurgan, it will make sense to carry out rearmament. In the meantime, to replace the outgoing BMP 1 and BMP 2
  7. cannabis
    cannabis 23 December 2017 00: 14 New
    +1
    Now send our soldiers to battle in the BMP - 1,2,3 against the European armies, this means sending them to slaughter. Neither BMP -1 nor BMP -2 could withstand the Marder BMP in the open field, and even the Puma BMP with its armor and a mass of 43 tons in modern conditions from a range of 2-3 km will be full of holes in our BMP corps. 41 Tod again with the fate of the armada of tanks BT-5, BT-7. We were 10 years late with Armat and Kurgan. The infantry, as usual, had one hope - for artillery as the basis for fire destruction (as Tukhachevsky said “An unconsolidated fire curtain?) And sappers who would help to dig BMP into the ground, turning their bunkers and bunkers. And this is subject to dominance in the air.
    1. Pivot
      Pivot 23 December 2017 00: 32 New
      +3
      Yes !!! Write such nonsense, on a 3 ke 100 mm gun stands with a coaxial 30 mm automatic cannon, its most powerful BMP in terms of fire capabilities in the world was recognized, even if it’s 50 tons in Mardera, it’s not a hindrance to a 100 mm shaped-charge projectile, but it’s overloaded with mobility technique oh how it suffers. So it’s not the topic of categories that you measure the superiority of a finger over x ... m.
      1. cannabis
        cannabis 23 December 2017 07: 15 New
        +1
        Against the "100 mm Kamalativnogo projectile" at the BMP PUMA prepared KAZ. This is such an electron-shooting "condom" from your h.a. How old were you, my dearest, was lucky to command units on the BMP, did you see the BMP Marder live, did you ever shoot from a 30 mm gun? Share your impressions and your views on the nature of modern combat. What I read about gravity amazed me to the extreme!
        1. Graz
          Graz 23 December 2017 19: 28 New
          +1
          cannabis
          Pum just 100 pieces released this time, and not everyone else has KAZ, all of our BMPs are armed with ATGMs. this is a long arm reaching farther than the guns of the German BMP, on the marder 20 mm the gun stands, on our 73, 30, 100 + 30, so here everything is not so bad.
          As for the beginning of the Second World War, our BTs and T-26s were not so critically inferior to German and Czech tanks, the whole thing is the misuse, sloppiness and betrayal of the leadership of the districts and other circumstances
          1. cannabis
            cannabis 23 December 2017 21: 01 New
            +1
            Let's start with BMP -1. The effective firing range of 73 mm Thunder guns is 600-800 meters. Maximum 1300 meters. BMP Marder with its 20 mm cannon is capable of piercing BMP-1, 2 armor from a range of 1500 meters. Now BMP-2. A 30 mm autocannon can only hit Marder from a range of 500 meters. A BMP Puma can hit from 200 meters. And in terms of armor and the weight of the Puma is equal to the tank, and is protected from undermining 10 kg of explosive charge. Finally, BMP - 3. In terms of armor protection, they are equal with Marder, but inferior to Puma, which means that with equal guns Puma has more chances. Kurgan, in fact, will be equivalent to Pume and just like the puma will be the son of Merkava. 100 mm ATGM BMP - 3 gives her the ability to hit enemy armored targets at long ranges, but at a short range in a head-on battle the gun is faster. That’s why Kurganets appeared to save the lives of soldiers and punish the adversary. Now about BT-7. The armor of German tanks was reinforced with mounted armor before the war and practically did not yield to the armor of the T-34. There is a separate conversation about the generals. Now about the theater of operations. Who was in Europe he saw the area and it is clearly not "in the steppe near Kherson." There is virtually no horizon. Glance stumbles upon hills, forests, planting, villages. (we are points through 3 - 4 km) So much for the ATGM range of 6 km. This area, however, is very advantageous in terms of the use of anti-tank helicopters. Something like that.....
            1. Golovan Jack
              Golovan Jack 23 December 2017 21: 11 New
              +9
              Quote: cunning
              Let's start with BMP -1

              Nah ... let's start from the other a little ...
              cannabis, and what is your fix idea to reduce BMP against BMP in a clean field?
              They, dragging it, were sharpened for other tasks than to fight against each other ... request
              1. cannabis
                cannabis 23 December 2017 21: 13 New
                0
                Here is the news! Explain .......
                1. Golovan Jack
                  Golovan Jack 23 December 2017 21: 18 New
                  +9
                  Quote: cunning
                  Timeinterpret

                  Time, two three...
                  Let you have Vika racesinterprets:
                  Quote: Vika
                  Infantry fighting vehicle, BMP - a wide class of armored fighting vehicles, the main purpose of which is to transport personnel to the place of fulfillment of the combat mission, increase its mobility, armament and defense on the battlefield in the context of the use of nuclear weapons and joint operations with tanks in battle

                  Fighting the enemy’s infantry fighting vehicle (all the more so like Puma ... yes, it has a weight like that of a tank), thus, in the immediate tasks of an infantry fighting vehicle ... ta-ta-aa-aam ... Excluded.
                  In how belay
                  1. cannabis
                    cannabis 23 December 2017 21: 26 New
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                    Well, if you have nothing to say, you shouldn’t even get involved. Well, why this aimless chatter? After all, I haven’t voiced my own thoughts ..... Vika is for people like you WITHOUT a basic education. You can somersault in the arena. I say goodbye to you.
                    1. Golovan Jack
                      Golovan Jack 23 December 2017 21: 32 New
                      +9
                      Quote: cunning
                      Well, why this aimless chatter? After all, not a single thought was voiced

                      Do not poke, do not harness stop
                      You have not grown to my own thoughts yet. Enough with you and Vicki ... for starters.
                      And to equate Marder (from 30 tons) and Puma (from 40 of them) even with BMP-3, which, if you hang everything on it, just over 20 gets out - it's somehow ... stupid yes
                      Quote: cunning
                      I say goodbye to you

                      Yes, roll ... I - so surely nothing will be lost from that laughing
      2. passerby5
        passerby5 23 December 2017 17: 50 New
        0
        so he’s something about armature-type 10 years late .... iHperD ??? all around shouting overtook! cheated with ass before)))
        1. Golovan Jack
          Golovan Jack 23 December 2017 21: 24 New
          +8
          Quote: passerby5
          cheated with ass before)))

          - Hut hut, turn to me in the forest, and to the backside - before!
          I thought, thought the hut ... and hung (completely)
  8. Ratmir_Ryazan
    Ratmir_Ryazan 23 December 2017 12: 12 New
    0
    Better of course than walking, but still, modern military equipment should have both DZ and KAZ !!!
    In this form, as now it’s all coffins on wheels and tracks, the calculations of RPGs and ATGMs can be disguised so that you can’t notice them from 20 meters, and a tank or infantry fighting vehicle will burn like that ?! Of course not. Well, who is the first to open fire and what will be the outcome ?! A bunch of burnt appliances !!!
  9. k_ply
    k_ply 23 December 2017 19: 02 New
    +2
    Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan
    Better of course than walking, but still, modern military equipment should have both DZ and KAZ !!!
    In this form, as now it’s all coffins on wheels and tracks, the calculations of RPGs and ATGMs can be disguised so that you can’t notice them from 20 meters, and a tank or infantry fighting vehicle will burn like that ?! Of course not. Well, who is the first to open fire and what will be the outcome ?! A bunch of burnt appliances !!!

    Will the thermal imager notice? So, what is detrimental to the BMP landing party, the lack of thermal imaging cameras for the crew as part of a stabilized SLA, distinguished by speed and accuracy of pointing, or KAZ? Such military thinkers do not leave a single chance for survival to poor motorized infantry. Forget about front cars of the 15th year! Say, a dismounted motorized infantry is moving along the side under the cover of the armored hull of a native vehicle, and even an enemy’s ammunition (ATGM) spilling out will be fatal for her, because when it approaches, the KAZ ammunition will work, and remember the soldiers as they were called. Or a modern DZ, which works, amplifying an external high-explosive impact, to reflect the same BOPS and armor-piercing blanks, but what is motorized infantry? In short, the enemy can extinguish motorized infantry near the BMP without even using OFS and fragmentation grenades.
    DZ and KAZ are basically for the protection of tanks, and infantry must protect them, moving away from the front, from the flanks and even the rear (this tactic is valid for databases in urban conditions). And the aforementioned (KAZ, KDZ on BMP), it is rather anti-ambush measures for the occupation operations of the police har-ra (IMHO).
    1. strannik1985
      strannik1985 31 December 2017 17: 52 New
      0
      Apparently the designers of the NKDZ 4C24 and 4C20 (BMP-3), Toga (M113 Zelda and NAGMAN), the NKDZ for Bradley are incompetent people or participants in a secret conspiracy to destroy their own soldiers.
      1. k_ply
        k_ply 3 January 2018 23: 08 New
        +1
        Enlighten at your leisure what kind of databases are in intensity and what kind of tasks the army performs in them and in what conditions, and why such heterogeneous armored vehicles for the same motorized infantry in the same armies (tracked and wheeled infantry fighting vehicles and armored personnel carriers, BMAP class armored vehicles). Of course, you can cram KAZ and DZ indiscriminately.
        Quote: k_ply
        And the aforementioned (KAZ, KDZ on BMP), it is rather anti-ambush measures for the occupation operations of the police har-ra (IMHO).
        1. strannik1985
          strannik1985 8 January 2018 08: 27 New
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          M2A2 was used in both Iraqi companies and in stabilization operations after the conquest of Iraq. What is the difference for the BMP crew?
          1. k_ply
            k_ply 28 January 2018 13: 29 New
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            And army crews are independent, how do they choose options in the showroom?

            KDZ on M2A2 in 1990/91. it still didn’t smell like 2003. on M2A3, they spontaneously began to install on the latter after the occupation of Iraq.
            1. strannik1985
              strannik1985 1 February 2018 19: 38 New
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              The American command apparently yes, if having adopted the NKDZ for service in 1988, they began to install it on cars only after the occupation of Iraq.
              Answer the question?
  10. turbris
    turbris 25 December 2017 17: 16 New
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    Gentlemen bloggers! Once again, carefully read the title of the article that you are trying to discuss here! What are you talking about? And here is the ambulance and medicine? Maybe it's time to stop each discussion of the topic in the trash to turn. If there is nothing to say on the subject of the message - do not write! If you want to talk, write to each other in PM, but you can’t continue like this - then all the meaning in publishing articles is lost.