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Ukraine banned books about Ilya of Murom

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Портал ukranews publishes material on the meeting of the Expert Council of the State Committee on Television and Radio Broadcasting of Ukraine, held at the end of last month. The article says that the Ukrainian department continues to fight with the “Russian propaganda”. Recall that earlier in Ukraine dozens of Russian films, prints and works of art were banned.


As it turns out, the ban extends to Russian folk tales, epic. In particular, epic stories about Illya Muromets and other ancient Russian epic warriors were banned by the Maidan obscurantism machine.

From the material:
Propaganda of the aggressor state, in particular the imperial geopolitical doctrines, which provide for the unification of the peoples around the aggressor state, its state language, culture, the dominant religious denomination (Orthodoxy) and serve as the ideological basis for the return of Ukraine to the dominance of the aggressor state. The decree prohibits the books "Ilya Muromets and the Nightingale the Robber" and "The Bogatyr Russian Tales".


Ukraine banned books about Ilya of Murom



For the ban of books with the biography of Russian epic warriors voted 11 members of the Ukrainian State Television and Radio of 15-ti. It is noted that the forbidden books "threatened Ukrainian self-identity." What kind of self-identity does Ukraine have if she is threatened with fairy tales and epics? ..
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  1. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 22 December 2017 12: 23
    13
    And why do they need epic, and even Russian heroes? They have already plunged their own so much (the whole institute is working) that they don’t know what historical event these Ukrainian “knights” should be tied to. When Adam, Jesus, Aristotle ... Ukrainians, then from the greatness of the roof goes to the full.
    1. Solomon Kane
      Solomon Kane 22 December 2017 12: 37
      24
      ".... and gathered a Russian hero, Ilya Muromets, a military team and went to Kiev Grad and stuck people there and the local princes, unreasonable at the very" club with kernels "and their overseas friends that came with a striped flag"
      1. Tatyana
        Tatyana 22 December 2017 12: 40
        +3
        Well, if the Ukrainians decided to rewrite their Russian history to "Ukrainian", then the Russian epics, of course, there too - in the garbage can!
        But what a gorgeous Black Sea the Ukrainians dug themselves from ancient times! fool
        1. LSA57
          LSA57 22 December 2017 13: 35
          10
          Quote: Tatiana
          Well, if the Ukrainians decided to rewrite their Russian history to "Ukrainian", then the Russian epics, of course, there too - in the garbage can!

          and not only history



    2. Jedi
      Jedi 22 December 2017 12: 38
      +9
      And here is what interested me:
      ... expert council of the State Committee for television and radio broadcasting Ukraine.

      For the ban Books with a biography of Russian epic heroes voted 11 members of the Ukrainian State television and radio out of 15.

      And what does the Radio and Television Dill have to do with books? Should the Ministry of Culture deal with this? Or are there already mixed up in a bunch of people, horses? recourse
      1. Solomon Kane
        Solomon Kane 22 December 2017 12: 44
        +6
        There were no horses or people left along the way, only that after the horses remained on the pavement ...
        Max! My regards! hi
        1. Jedi
          Jedi 22 December 2017 12: 47
          +5
          Kostya, mutually! hi
          Quote: Solomon Kane
          only that after the horses on the pavement remains ...

          Very similar to that ... sad
      2. Sloboganin
        Sloboganin 22 December 2017 14: 29
        0
        So cartoon about Tugarin and the snake
        Gorynych will be banned
        1. andron-30
          andron-30 22 December 2017 21: 09
          +1
          they banned Masha and Medved, and here Gorynych, this is the Muscovite weapon.
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    4. LiSiCyn
      LiSiCyn 22 December 2017 12: 43
      +6
      That's for sure .. The relics, saints, would be taken out of the laurels to Russia .. They’re still guarding Kuev .. The sectarians don’t need saints ..
      1. PalBor
        PalBor 22 December 2017 14: 00
        +2
        Quote: LiSiCyn
        That's for sure .. The relics, saints, would be taken out of the laurels to Russia .. They’re still guarding Kuev .. The sectarians don’t need saints ..

        E-mine, and it's true. The historical boyar Ilya, the prototype of the epic, is buried in the Lavra.
    5. svp67
      svp67 22 December 2017 13: 31
      0
      Quote: rotmistr60
      Why are they epic, and even Russian heroes

      But you are wrong, they need them, even very ... only with their "Ukrainian" flavor, where Ilya is not from any of Murom, but from the Moroviisk farm of the Chernigov Principality ...
      What kind of "self-identity" does Ukraine have if it is threatened by fairy tales and epics? ..
      Its own, UKRAINIAN and with Alyosha Popovich, and with Dobrynya and with Ilya Muromets
      1. AVA77
        AVA77 22 December 2017 16: 06
        0
        And Muscovites will be in this film?
  2. AVA77
    AVA77 22 December 2017 12: 23
    +6
    The first thing that comes to mind is Lavrov’s words, not to add not to add.
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    2. Orionvit
      Orionvit 22 December 2017 13: 59
      +2
      Well and still so. No more words.
  3. Kerensky
    Kerensky 22 December 2017 12: 27
    +3
    I will ban tales, legends, toasts ....
    1. Popovich
      Popovich 22 December 2017 13: 04
      +2
      Quote: Kerensky
      I will ban tales, legends, toasts ....

      and you will be cured .... this is our profile ...
      1. Kerensky
        Kerensky 22 December 2017 15: 08
        +1
        and you will be cured .... this is our profile ...

        So what? Everything is fine. 15 people gathered, - fig! And banned. I have 8 volumes of fairy tales here (including African ones), can I gobble up before it's too late?
        Well, I understand - the information war ... and ours will be saved.
        1. AVA77
          AVA77 22 December 2017 16: 08
          0
          You are however a foodie laughing
  4. aszzz888
    aszzz888 22 December 2017 12: 28
    +2
    ... will sing their kyborg having sung ... laughing
    1. Irokez
      Irokez 22 December 2017 12: 33
      +2
      scribe (real white). Ilya then Muromets became a monk precisely in Kiev and ended his journey there. And that he is not a national hero in the same Ukraine as in Russia? Well, the complete and most snow-white scribe.
      This is called rewriting and glossing over history so that the Slavs do not have a past.
      1. Chichikov
        Chichikov 22 December 2017 12: 49
        +5
        That's for sure! It is necessary, the Russian Patriarch, to decide on the return of the Russian warrior to their homeland.
        It is believed that Ilya Muromets is Ilya Chobotok, who is a native of the village of Karacharovo, near the city of Murom in the Vladimir region. According to some assumptions, Ilya was born between 1150 and 1165. The famous hero served the prince, but at the end of his life he accepted monasticism and served in the Kiev Pechersk Lavra. Why the hero took monasticism is not known for certain. According to some assumptions, Ilya Muromets himself went to the monastery. According to others, Ilya Muromets could no longer engage in military affairs, as he suffered from a severe wound, and then went to the monastery. There is also a version, judging by which, the prince, whom Ilya served, sent him to the monastery for rejecting the proposal to marry his daughter. The hero after that became Elijah Pechersky, a monk of the Kiev-Pechersky monastery. Currently venerated in the face of the saints.

        Judging by the research of the remains of Ilya Muromets, he died from a wound in the region of the heart. The cause of his death was the blow of a spear or sword in the chest through the left arm covering the chest. Also, when examining the relics of Ilya Pechersky, it was found that in childhood he suffered from a spinal disease, which echoes one of the legends, judging by which the epic hero could not walk until he was 33 years old. Elijah Pechersky was buried in the nearby caves of the Kiev Pechersk Lavra. Part of the relics of Ilya Muromets - the middle finger of the left hand - is located in the homeland of Ilya Muromets - in one of the churches of Murom in the Vladimir region.

        1. Orionvit
          Orionvit 22 December 2017 14: 05
          +2
          Quote: Chichikov
          That's for sure! It is necessary, the Russian Patriarch, to decide on the return of the Russian warrior to their homeland.

          We need the ancient city of Kiev, which is in the Ukrainian occupation, to return to their homeland. Then the soldiers will be on their land without any transfer. And move the capital of Ukraine to where it went from, namely to Lviv.
      2. My doctor
        My doctor 22 December 2017 12: 58
        0
        Quote: Irokez
        scribe (real white). Ilya then Muromets became a monk precisely in Kiev and ended his journey there. And that he is not a national hero in the same Ukraine as in Russia? Well, the complete and most snow-white scribe.

        scribe. Fairy-tale, epic stories are presented as historical facts.
  5. ded100
    ded100 22 December 2017 12: 31
    +6
    So soon the ancient Hohlyatsky come up! wassat
    1. Solomon Kane
      Solomon Kane 22 December 2017 12: 41
      +4
      ... these are like Chinese special forces, look at their faces from the Middle Kingdom ....
    2. Svarog51
      Svarog51 23 December 2017 00: 59
      +4
      Nif-nif, Naf-naf and Nuf-nuf in a new way?
  6. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 22 December 2017 12: 31
    0
    Yes there are only "Katigoroshki" from "haute couture" ...
  7. Egorovich
    Egorovich 22 December 2017 12: 32
    +7
    They now have another hero - "a hero with an unfinished tie."
  8. Skay
    Skay 22 December 2017 12: 43
    0
    Let's burn books on the Maidan for a complete analogy.
    1. Orionvit
      Orionvit 22 December 2017 14: 07
      0
      Quote: Skay
      Let's burn books on the Maidan for a complete analogy.

      Wait, it’s not yet evening, there will be such.
  9. Lexus
    Lexus 22 December 2017 12: 46
    +4
    Russian heroes are the worst enemy of the independence. Not surprising.
  10. Masya masya
    Masya masya 22 December 2017 12: 47
    +7
    So, the Russian heroes beat the filthy forever! that remains filthy, only ban Russian heroes ... wink
    1. Solomon Kane
      Solomon Kane 22 December 2017 12: 59
      +4
      -Yes, there were people these days,
      Not that an ukrozad tribe:
      Bogatyri - not you!
      And you, like whores ...
      All twist sirloin ass
      In front of the owner, with a star-striped flag

      Marina Vitalievna! My regards! hi And sorry! For vulgarity! Concerning the Unluckyrequest
      1. Masya masya
        Masya masya 22 December 2017 13: 24
        +5
        Hello, Konstantin! love
        Hey hoopoes on horses
        I do not understand what kind of laughter?
        Does it bother you that there are two of us?
        zvizdyuley enough for everyone! wink
        1. Svarog51
          Svarog51 23 December 2017 01: 15
          +5
          Marinochka Vitalievna, welcome love love love
          And why do they need heroes, they and their "Cossacks" are enough. Especially recently.
          hi
          1. Masya masya
            Masya masya 23 December 2017 04: 45
            +4
            Sergey, hello there! love good cartoon, in childhood I watched ... yes, Ukrainians are not the same ..... wink
            1. Svarog51
              Svarog51 23 December 2017 05: 04
              +5
              With a peppy morning, Marinochka love love love
              For this cartoon, they recently intensively shoot new series. Only here the desire to watch them, for me personally, is completely absent. It’s better to watch our cartoons.
              1. Masya masya
                Masya masya 23 December 2017 05: 53
                +4
                Good !!! love since Ukrainians are not the same, then cartoons, respectively ... lol

                laughing
  11. Fedorov
    Fedorov 22 December 2017 12: 58
    +3
    It remains to Kievan Rus to ban the Orthodox Church. They spoke clearly not Khokhlyatsky. Obscurantists! sadAnd Tripoli culture, there are runes in general ..
    1. Orionvit
      Orionvit 22 December 2017 14: 08
      +1
      You are late, all this has happened in Ukraine a long time ago.
      1. Fedorov
        Fedorov 22 December 2017 14: 13
        +3
        Not really, I'm still here ... I'm trying to do something .. And I think that I'm not the last of the Mohicans.
        1. Orionvit
          Orionvit 22 December 2017 14: 27
          +4
          Quote: Fedorov
          Not really, I'm still here.

          That's just the point, as I am here so far. I see all this crap from the inside, and optimism, it doesn’t add to me either. It is difficult to be the last of the “Mohicans”, and here the question arises, either all the same back to the “Mohican” (Russia), or something needs to be done. But to do without Russia will not work.
  12. gorgo
    gorgo 22 December 2017 13: 10
    0
    Quote: Jedi

    And what does the Radio and Television Dill have to do with books? recourse


    And what does Ilya Muromets have to do with the “geopolitical imperial doctrine”? Questions are superfluous ...

  13. Sergey53
    Sergey53 22 December 2017 13: 31
    +1
    Russian heroes spoil them the whole picture of their heroic story so torturedly invented by them.
  14. alekc73
    alekc73 22 December 2017 15: 17
    0
    Kiev is the mother of Russian cities. As Russophobes did not try, this is our story. Ilya Muromets is not enough to throw the bastards out of Kiev.
  15. BAI
    BAI 22 December 2017 16: 41
    0
    They rewrote Vicki that Muromets is Ukrainian. Already "their" do not like?
  16. k174oun7
    k174oun7 22 December 2017 18: 11
    0
    Ilya Muromets, together with Nightingale the Robber, “destroyed” the law of Ukraine and now “serve” the aggressor. The protocol "for expert sake" was signed by the head of this council - B. Chervak In a word, dill exchange heroes for worms.
  17. Dedall
    Dedall 22 December 2017 19: 47
    +2
    Dear forum users, and you take a look at our school books. For example, I did not find a mention of Popov in a physics textbook. But there is Marconi, Ducre and Tesla. No Kurchatov, but a lot of words about Fermi and Rutherford. There is no mention of Lomonosov in the chemistry textbook. There, of the Russian surnames, only Mendeleev remained in general. In the biology textbook, there is not a word about Lukin, who coined the name “vitamin” for substances whose presence in food is necessary for humans. And if we take the institute textbooks, then in the textbook of surgery they now write "Blumberg symptom" instead of the previously adopted name "Shchetkin-Blumberg symptom". And the polio vaccine is now called the Salk and Sabin vaccine without mentioning the Russian Chumakov. Here is such a tendency to deprive us of history in all directions and present us as wild barbarians.
  18. andron-30
    andron-30 22 December 2017 21: 27
    +1
    that’s what’s interesting why these wise men fighting the whole Soviet post do not ruin the Dnieper, plants built in Soviet times and not in the delirium of the dill dill dill until the time of Tutankhamun, the answer is simple it will need someone to rebuild after the destruction, only dill learned to ruin everything.
  19. Antares
    Antares 22 December 2017 23: 00
    0
    probably there is little knowledge of the Ukrainian language.
    There’s a ban on distribution, Committee prohibits book import only(It was created to prohibit the import of products of Russian book publishers, a type of competition, Kharkov prints well in "Russian movi" (Russian). However The Committee does not prohibit the book itself or the idea, but only its import into Ukraine)
    Books published in Moscow. Like the rest, prohibited for import into the territory of Ukraine.
    I re-read Ukrainian and Russian propaganda. They (suddenly) agreed - Prohibit is stupid!
    However, commercially, by prohibiting the import from Moscow, the Committee provokes the printing of it in Ukraine. Because now a sufficient amount of Russian literature is being printed in Kharkov.
    Earlier in Ukraine, in general, they printed little Russian, they preferred to import from Moscow.
    So there’s nothing to repeat nonsense (Ilya Muromets was banned in Ukraine) -The relics of Ilya Muromets are in the Kiev Pechersk Lavra. They say they can heal people who have problems with the spine or those with paralyzed legs.
    Banned the import of books from the Moscow publishing house. Like 19 others (2-authorship of Akunin, even Makarevich interceded for him in Ukraine__)
    The Russian Federation NEVER defended the Russian language and culture outside the Russian Federation, Russian cultural centers, etc.
    In Ukraine, Ukrainians themselves preserve the Russian language and culture, even if it is difficult. In general, “Russian Ukrainians” are always self-explanatory. Against all “partners”
  20. Govorun
    Govorun 23 December 2017 00: 17
    0
    Ukraine banned books about Ilya of Murom
    Yes, everything needs to be banned .... commercials from Byzantium yet ...
  21. Cobra77
    Cobra77 23 December 2017 00: 54
    0
    And by the way, have we not yet been banned "The Tale of the Priest and His Worker Balda"? And then after all, the classic ruins spiritual bonds ...
    1. Conductor
      Conductor 23 December 2017 07: 33
      +1
      You rightly noticed that !!! just a universal fairy tale for all times.
  22. Conductor
    Conductor 23 December 2017 07: 32
    0
    The nightingale is a robber! So they get to Gogol, lived in Russia, wrote in Russian, and the Ukrainian couple went to the damned Empress of Empress for little chervils !!
  23. PValery53
    PValery53 23 December 2017 20: 54
    0
    "In Ukraine, books about Ilya Muromets were banned"
    - At the Ukrainian elite, zoological Russophobia reaches such a stage that foam should go through the mouth. Have to come with straitjackets ...