Why do the authorities of the USA and Russia play with only one goal?

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Not an accusation, but a statement of fact: a strange game is going on, in which the authorities of the two opposing countries, Russia and the United States, are playing at the same gate.





The game is called "finish the Soviet past."

As a matter of fact, not so much remains from the Soviet past in 25 years of our “independence”. But what is left is destroyed and is quite successful.

Four examples.

The first. Education.

What is the best system in the world free (boldly emphasize) education was destroyed, and on its ruins, Mr. Fursenko built the Unified State Examination Empire, which according to his famous phrase, stamps not a creator man, but a qualified consumer who is able to skillfully use the results of others, is a fact.

Consumers nashtampovali. Managers, economists and others. At the same time, they somehow quietly left the first places in the space industry, shipbuilding, heavy engineering, machine-tool construction.

What for? Yet already invented somewhere there, it is easier to buy and take advantage of the results of the creativity of others. From the phone to the turbine.

Second. Culture

Everything is just gorgeous here, we also talked about it out loud more than once. The cult of spitting on everything Soviet simply blooms and smells. Unfortunately, not very nice. Stalingrads, leviathans, citadels, snipers (who are under the gun), Matilda, salutes, Nureyev, Trotsky, rasputins.

The list can be continued indefinitely, because the series of semi-historical semi-pornography is endless, which is removed and placed on the order of the current government. And just recently, Prime Minister Medvedev happily announced that next year they will launch new pilot projects in the framework of cultural development. Which in every possible way will improve access of people to cultural values.

That is, the Sabbath will continue.

Third. History.

Rewriting history is simply enchanting pace. And in it more and more places are occupied by characters, whose appearance can only be called strange. Wrangel, Mannerheim, Nicholas II, Alexander the Third, Kolchak.

Kolchak is a peculiar figure in our history. And worthy of study.

Alexander the Third Romanov can serve as an example and ideal of a statesman and a citizen for many in the country.

But together it is an attempt to simply point out that everything in “that” Russia was much better and more beautiful than in the USSR.

Indicate a certain landmark. Well, and there before the monarchy, in principle, hand in hand.

The fourth (and probably the most remarkable). Sport.

We spoke very sharply about the behavior of our government in relation to sports issues. More than once the questions have already been considered, why after Rio practically nothing was done to prevent the defeat of the national teams.

Why, in response to frankly vile actions of the USA, there were no answers. However, “hard and symmetrical” words are just words. We are already used to them.

The answer is simple: no one at the top needs this. Such a capitulation suits everyone.

Until recently, sports remained the only place where everyone was happy about the success of our teams: red and white, communists and monarchists.

The successes of the Olympic, Paralympic teams and hockey players - this is, in fact, everything that more or less united all Russians.

And the United States delivers a vile, unproven blow to the last thing left of those times. Yes, modern athletes are not those who are from the USSR national team, they are a separate elite class. But we all loved them historically, we rejoiced at every victory, we protested and resented when they were condemned.

Remember the gold medal of Alexei Nemov? In what country could it be, except for ours?

And the destruction did not begin yesterday. It began immediately after Sochi. In Rio de Janeiro. And two years after the Brazilian humiliation, the authorities did nothing to rectify the situation.

The conclusion is simple: everyone is satisfied with this state of affairs. Full and unconditional surrender. Let the athletes themselves go to the courts, that's their business. Let them go to the Olympics as homeless, if they break something there - reward.

And, as Putin’s press conference showed, up there, everyone is well aware of what is happening.

Proof of? No problem.

The main evidence is Rodchenkov. Who put him in his place as head of the anti-doping committee? His, the person involved in the criminal case, the dealer of prohibited drugs, suicidal? His place was with his sister, an accomplice in places very remote or in an appropriate medical facility.

Remember what Putin said?

“I don’t remember the name of the citizen who headed RUSADA, where did he work before? In Canada. And what did he do? He came to Russia, being appointed to a high position, dragged here any nastiness. I can hardly imagine that, moving across the state border of Canada and the United States with prohibited drugs, I have never been noticed by anyone.

Many of you cross the border of the United States and Canada, there is tight control. And he always dragged this stuff. When they pressed his tail, they couldn’t put him down, he ran away. ”


I agree that Putin really could not have known the names of the head of RUSADA. Not his level. "Could not plant" - this is more interesting. As practice shows, when we want to plant someone, they plant him. We also wrote about this. But when they do not want ... Well, there are enough examples too.

But to say that the ministers of sport Mutko and Kolobkov were not aware of, the language does not turn. This is their level. And their job is to collaborate with RUSADA and WADA.

Another quote from Putin's press conference.

“Error, of course, those who did it. I know who did it. But now what to talk about it? "

Really what? And it’s worth talking. Neither Mutko, nor Kolobkov, oddly enough, did not suffer any punishment. As, in principle, those who should not only “press the tail and plant”, but not allow the appointment of Rodchenkov to this position at all.

Truly, the titanium roof at Rodchenkov. One can envy only.

As a result, the last component of what you could be proud of and which really was a kind of unifying factor for the people, you know where you are. In the same place, where the wonderful performance of our football team, led by all the same Mutko as the head of the RFU.

And everyone is happy with everything.

In our pro-American Constitution, copied precisely from there, the absence of any state ideology is clearly spelled out. Prescribed a long time, even under Yeltsin, in 1993 year.

From here it is generally necessary to dance.

Whatever the Soviet legacy, whatever it may be (with the possible exception of the nuclear weapons and space, although work is underway in matters of space) must be destroyed.

And the output is just a charming society: spiritless, uncultured, uneducated, not knowing and, most importantly, not appreciating its past. But well managed and able to consume.

An ideal flock for a shepherd.

And then you will see the Wailing Wall for political prisoners, here is the Yeltsin Center, here is the Mannerheim. Here you have new ideals in the form of new heroes in the cinema for the masses and a homosexual Nureyev for the elite.

Beg one more quote from Putin.

“Who does not regret the collapse of the USSR, he does not have a heart. And the one who wants to restore it in its previous form does not have a head. ”

It would be more correct to say: he will not have a head. And the best confirmation of this is the Donbass.

The rehearsal in the Donbas was very successful. And we witnessed how all this happened. How to first removed all carriers of ideas. It was precisely the ideological creators of the revolution who rose in the front ranks. About someone we know, but this is only the tip of the iceberg. And how many "went missing", "moved to Russia," "captured DRG APU", it is difficult to calculate.

But in the end, when a parliamentary coup occurred in the DPR, when Pushilin simply ousted companions from the parliament, two hundred people came out to protest.

And when there was a coup in the LC, in general, no one even snatched.

Everyone should be busy only with their own lives or survival. The rest is superfluous.

Regrettably, something similar is happening today with us.

We lose, because it is impossible to simultaneously fight on two fronts: against the USA and the cultures, education, history, concepts of citizenship and other pleasures of the Western way of life that are being imposed on us.

So far, the infection has struck only part of the society. So far, we are looking at the queue for the next toys for a hundred thousand rubles as idiots. But these idiots are us, our children, our friends, our acquaintances. This is part of the Russian people.

Some of the same people calmly look at the Olympic humiliation under the white flag. Expresses understanding and support. And these are already other Russians, from another Russia. From the one where it is very simple to prove that the country does not need its own Olympic team. Therefore, athletes can act independently both in the courts and in stadiums. And the state will not burden itself with normal work and protection.

Patriotism, honor, kindness, the ability to protect the weak and other "obsolete moral categories" of the Soviet heritage have become obsolete. Modern man outside the state, outside the nation, outside the sex, outside politics.

Do we need such a future? Very doubtful. The future, rather, is comparable to the animal way of life, when you have to grunt at the signal of a red light bulb. The future of consumers without the right, and most importantly, the desire to change something. What for? They will decide everything for them.

Warm, well-fed, comfortable. As in the stable before the coming of the butcher.

It is very doubtful that one can live without ideology, culture, history and sports. But we are very hard to go there. Without regard to financial costs. Replacing values ​​that were not the worst, as life has shown.

And there will be white flags of capitulation at the games, half-films about the Great Patriotic War, where sex, it turns out, is more important than duty, and the set of vague holidays like Independence Day do not understand from whom and the day of reconciliation do not understand with whom.

The question of Victory Day remains open, but the host of “new Russians” who place German rifles and machine guns on monuments and draw German soldiers and equipment on billboards will probably come up with something for 20 over the years.

I would like to see a few things wrong in the Russia that Putin was talking about building.
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  1. +28
    22 December 2017 06: 15
    One can argue with something, it is reflected right ... At least it’s clear that the authors have a sore soul, and most of the participants in our forum are not indifferent and often suffer pain for tomorrow of the country - which means that not everything is so bad in Russia ! As wisely and courageously wrote to all of us from the stuffy compartment of the flooded submarine Kursk, Captain Kolesnikov:"Do not despair!"then everything will work out!
    1. +43
      22 December 2017 06: 30
      Finches
      One can argue with something, something is reflected true ..

      There is nothing to argue about. Everything is reflected correctly! True, both a statement of the situation and a sad prospect for the future. Only a change of power to a government of popular trust can change the situation and stop sliding into the abyss.
      1. +21
        22 December 2017 07: 54
        And the destruction did not begin yesterday. It began immediately after Sochi. In Rio de Janeir
        I am either old-experienced or authors with poor memory.
        STARTED in 2000 or 1996, but there it was weak and not very offensive against the backdrop of the collapse of all life in the Russian Federation.
        now they just healed the wounds and put us in prison, SECURED, returned to the previously indicated place.

        FOR MONEY, GDP EVERYTHING IS CORRECTLY MAKED-- EVERYTHING IS FOR YOURSELF. ideology does not make money. and it was visible for 10-15 years. I DO NOT SURPRISE.
        1. +5
          22 December 2017 21: 25
          Quote: antivirus
          And the destruction did not begin yesterday

          Chubais never hid that the task of him and the rest of the associates of the liberals, and now in power, was the collapse of our USSR. They studied in the USA. Their goals set before them remain the same - the collapse of Russia by all available means and methods.
      2. +33
        22 December 2017 09: 20
        Quote: populist
        Finches
        One can argue with something, something is reflected true ..

        There is nothing to argue about. Everything is reflected correctly! True, both a statement of the situation and a sad prospect for the future. Only a change of power to a government of popular trust can change the situation and stop sliding into the abyss.

        Absolutely spotted. Indeed, the greatest hatred of this thieves' authority is not even that they robbed the entire people of the former USSR and continue this vile deed further, namely, that this short-range rabble is breaking people's traditional values ​​and achievements of the whole nation through the knee. The West unambiguously clearly shows our "little river" that its place is only in the bastard and nowhere else, nevertheless these bastards, maddened in their bacchanalia, do everything with unexplained enthusiasm to destroy education, sports, culture and distorting history in Russia, not while having an obvious profit. Just to please the Western degenerates, and perhaps, comforting themselves with dreams of legitimizing the stolen goods and consolidating their class superiority against the backdrop of flourishing moronism. The authorities are doing everything possible to be hated like mad jackals and at the moment is the most advanced detachment of the 5th column. Who spits in the Soviet past, either illiterate, or an enemy of Russia and the Russian people.
        1. +1
          23 December 2017 02: 03
          Quote: Antianglosaks
          The West unambiguously clearly shows our "little river" that its place is only in the bastard and nowhere else, nevertheless these bastards, distraught in their bacchanalia, are doing everything inexplicably to destroy Russia

          About the river. ...
          "Higher" race and their local proxies. Went from there?

          (Awarding the police with a medal for the Eastern peoples in the Soviet village)
      3. +8
        22 December 2017 14: 19
        Quote: populist
        Only a change of power to a government of public trust

        Now tell us who we will accept in the people, whom to trust trust? Or let the President say, and we shout approval? Maybe there is a political force in the country that can hit itself in the left chest and say loudly: "I can! People trust me!" And to show the people (or the electorate? Is this the same thing?) The lines in the box, which the people will definitely TRUST? How and where to trust? At the polling station, where EVERY ballot will be visible in correctly hung cameras? Beautiful, dear, pushing slogans. Of the cadets will be? Or the Octobrists? Or are you campaigning for a party of a fiery runaway fighter for the communist idea? So Zyuganov escaped. Otreksa, as they say.
        1. +11
          22 December 2017 19: 36
          Quote: 97110
          Beautiful, dear, pushing slogans. Of the cadets will be? Or the Octobrists? Or are you campaigning for a party of a fiery runaway fighter for the communist idea? So Zyuganov escaped. Otreksa, as they say


          Zyuganov, yes, renounced. So he pushed slogans. From the Communist Party, Grudinin will go, who does not push slogans, but does business. When I saw him, the state farm named after Lenin refused to believe at all that such a thing was possible in modern Russia. And he proved that it is possible, even against all obstacles, that he was repaired. And if he has power? It can be seen that man is soul to people, and he himself is from hard workers. What can I say, just take an interest. Personally, I consider him the only alternative to Putin and Co.
          1. +4
            22 December 2017 19: 51
            Quote: freddyk
            Zyuganov, yes, denied

            Where you’ve denied, where you fled ... you’ve lost consciousness, you won’t say otherwise ... Who supported Grudinin? Communist Party and Zyuganov personally. that the presidium recommended nominating Pavel Grudinin as a presidential candidate. Earlier, the director of the Lenin state farm announced his readiness to participate in the elections, if supported by the Communist Party.
            The Presidium of the Central Committee of the Communist Party of the Russian Federation recommended nominating the director of the state farm named after Lenin Pavel Grudinin as a presidential candidate. This was reported by Interfax with reference to the Secretary of the Central Committee of the Communist Party of the Russian Federation Sergey Obukhov.
            1. +5
              22 December 2017 20: 12
              Zyuganov ended for me (or died) in 1996. But the fact that he put forward Grudinin only says that he realized that he is not a candidate, the people do not believe him. And only because of his personality, the Communist Party lost credibility among the people, although the party’s program was always popular.
              How did Putin become President? Did Judas Yeltsin put him forward.
              1. +3
                22 December 2017 21: 38
                Zyuganov and the Communist Party are the same as in Ukraine, Yanukovych with the Party of Regions.

                The same talkers as Navalny each pulling their audience.

                And Gudinin will never become the head of the country because to win, you need to gain the votes of the oligarchs and security forces, and not the street faceless masses.
                1. +4
                  22 December 2017 22: 02
                  Quote: Krabik
                  And Gudinin will never become the head of the country because to win, you need to gain the votes of the oligarchs and security forces, and not the street faceless masses.


                  You wanted to say the money of the oligarchs? Compared to the “faceless mass,” there are also not a lot of siloviki. If the people do not want to continue to be patient, go to the polls and vote, no oligarchs will help Putin. And if it doesn’t go, it will remain a faceless mass and there’s nothing to moan then that the country has been plundered.
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                    1. +2
                      23 December 2017 00: 38
                      Quote: Krabik
                      Here's a general understanding of what and how they form an opinion so as not to vote for Putin:

                      And what is wrong? A beautiful young talented girl expressed her opinion in an art form, competently having quipped. good
                      And views under a million, and this is the opinion of young people.
                      1. +1
                        23 December 2017 01: 25
                        Yesterday I watched the video, as one guy for likes shot himself on the camera, there was a scream%)

                        I can throw a video so that you too rejoice at the opinion of young people ...
                  2. 0
                    23 December 2017 13: 12
                    I also want to add an interesting point.

                    The oligarchs appear on large financial flows and now many of the oligarchy owe their capital to Putin.

                    There is a vicious cycle when oligarchs choose Putin, and he chooses them.

                    If the system is stable, then our state will develop steadily.

                    But still I prefer shadow management, as in the USA.
                    When the real ruler is in the shadows, and most likely not alone, he selects his representative through the electoral college.
          2. +3
            22 December 2017 21: 56
            Quote: freddyk
            Personally, I consider him the only alternative to Putin and Co.

            I will not argue. Who does Mr. Grudinin rely on? With all the excellent achievements of ZAO (?) "State Farm named after Lenin" will be able to resist the shareholders of the "public domain"? Do you hope that modern bourgeoisie will not fight for their own blood as they did in 1918-1920? The guard, which Rus, has not yet died on Stokhod, is ready to defend the "owners". Which of the powers that be do not shy away from a nuclear bomb at ZAO (?) "State Farm named after Lenin" from, for example, philanthropy? There are not even real unions in the country. There is no one to rely on Mr. Grudinin. Look what the American bourgeois do with their trump. With all his lard and electorate. And our "successful" people will cope with Grudinin if they need to. But I don’t think it will come to that. Get along, not small ...
            1. +5
              22 December 2017 22: 15
              I completely agree with you, the oligarchs grabbed hold of the country with a dead grip, it is very difficult, if at all possible, to defeat them. But to support a person who has challenged the system by putting at stake his well-being (what he still needs from life, he has everything in a bunch), and maybe life (pah-pah-pah) we are obliged, especially since it’s not difficult for us, just vote for him.
            2. 0
              25 December 2017 14: 12
              Quote: 97110
              And our "successful" people will cope with Grudinin if they need to. But I don’t think it will come to that. Get along, not small ...

              Grudinin's 40% stake - a decent chunk of 7 billion assets of the company in 2015
              1. +1
                25 December 2017 16: 48
                Quote: your1970
                Grudinin's 40% stake - a decent chunk of 7 billion assets of the company in 2015

                I was familiar with a 40% stake in a refinery. He lived normally, as they said here, everything was a bunch. Then bad luck trampled on a businessman, bought the wrong asset in the wrong republic, then they elected the president in that republic, again, he somehow suffered. The result of all this was the loss of the image of a “strong business executive.” And at one sad moment, a group of owners of other large stakes in the capital of the said refinery said that its 40% did not give him the right to go into the operational management of the enterprise. There will be a meeting of shareholders - can vote all 40%. It has long been, back in the last century ...
      4. +4
        22 December 2017 16: 58
        Government of public confidence? It can only be done through a coup and blood. Do we need it? The fact that everything we have done for a long time on Western patterns, but also in a perverted form is not news. Unfortunately, the current government does not and will not change anything, since it is impossible to break the established system of relations with it. Another six years will be the same as now, the main thing is not to be worse, but the other will not be for sure.
        1. +4
          22 December 2017 19: 44
          Quote: Kent0001
          Government of public confidence? It can only be done through a coup and blood. Do we need it? The fact that everything we have done for a long time on Western patterns, but also in a perverted form is not news. Unfortunately, the current government does not and will not change anything, since it is impossible to break the established system of relations with it. Another six years will be the same as now, the main thing is not to be worse, but here the other will not be for sure


          My opinion is that it’s possible without blood. Putin created the vertical of power by law. Ministers, governors are appointed. We have a presidential country, he has all the power. There will be a communist president, there will be ministers, governors, and bureaucrats as communists, and here you have a bloodless coup. Therefore, it is necessary to go to the polls, to ensure a high turnout, because everyone who did not come, think that he has voted for Putin, no need to explain why. Well, of course, vote for the representative of the Communist Party (if this, of course, will not be Zyuganov)
          1. +1
            22 December 2017 21: 40
            There are no elections and there have never been.

            But Putin created a vertical line for himself and his environment, and not for third-party upstarts.
        2. +6
          22 December 2017 20: 03
          And after six years, who will choose? I don’t know how much you need, but I suspect that you will already be “lazy” and the new generation of “EG victims” will ripen, for which it will no longer be obvious that they are wrong and they will firmly hammer them into their heads “a rash is unworthy of a good life, we must get out of here. " am
      5. 0
        25 December 2017 14: 10
        Quote: populist
        Only a change of power to a government of popular trust can change the situation and stop sliding into the abyss.
        - it remains only to remember who said that .... Mmm ... Guchkov? Milyukov? Shulgin? Keren
        sky - not, certainly not him !!!
        He became old, I don’t remember exactly .... I remember that 1917 ...
        and how beautiful the program was
        “creating a“ government of trust ”, pursuing a policy aimed at“ preserving the inner peace ”, partial amnesty of convicts on political and religious affairs, lifting some restrictions on the rights of peasants and national minorities (“ taking the path to lifting laws that are restrictive on Jews ”,“ autonomy of Poland ”, the end of repressions against the“ Little Russian press ”), the provision of great opportunities for local self-government (“ revision of the zemstvo position ”,“ volost zemstvo ”), restoration of the activities of trade unions."
        everything seems to be decent ...

        Oh, Zyuganov said (14.04.2017/XNUMX/XNUMX) !!! and what is he - and then has been???
    2. +8
      22 December 2017 06: 31
      Quote: Finches
      One can argue with something, something is reflected true ...

      Ага.
      Mr. Fursenko built the USE empire,
      here for example Livanov
      And the fact that the United States and Russia are ruining things quietly ... the lunar deal is an example of this.
      Whoever doesn’t know, in the midst of the cold, the US has built a KAMAZ for us, grain prices have doubled at our place, shipping us to help us.
      In the internet there.
      1. +34
        22 December 2017 08: 50
        As a matter of fact, not so much remains from the Soviet past in 25 years of our “independence”. But what is left is destroyed and is quite successful.
        1. +23
          22 December 2017 09: 18
          Quote: Dead Day
          As a matter of fact, not so much remains from the Soviet past in 25 years of our “independence”. But what is left is destroyed and is quite successful.

          From a purely everyday point of view, you are absolutely right, but alas, unfortunately, it was during the late Khrushchev and Brezhnev that many objective reasons for the collapse of the USSR, such as an oil needle, ideological dogma, vicious personnel policy, etc., ripened, and this should also be remembered take account of.
          1. +3
            22 December 2017 11: 47
            But it’s big and consists of everyday trifles.
          2. +7
            22 December 2017 13: 33
            Quote: romey
            From a purely everyday point of view, you are absolutely right, but alas, unfortunately, it was during the late Khrushchev and Brezhnev that many objective reasons for the collapse of the USSR, such as an oil needle, ideological dogma, vicious personnel policy, etc., ripened, and this should also be remembered take account of.

            Quote: groks
            But it’s big and consists of everyday trifles.

            Life does not stand still. “You can’t enter the same river twice ...” All the best of the times of the USSR was combined with inevitable negative aspects, such as “egalitarianism” - both with responsibility before the law, combined with “telephone law”, and with equalized wages approved by the Ministry labor.
            The main thing here is not to jump from one extreme to another. The dashing 90 e threw us off the road of stable and calm development. The mistakes made and miscalculations should be analyzed with a view to both correcting them and avoiding them in the future.
            There is no point in reinventing bicycles. But you should not blindly copy both American, European and Chinese models.
            1. +3
              23 December 2017 02: 59
              Quote: stalkerwalker
              The mistakes made and miscalculations should be analyzed with a view to both correcting them and avoiding them in the future.

              And who will “analyze” all this? Aren't those “reformers” whom Putin pulls up with enviable constancy, who “analyzed” in the 90s?
            2. +2
              23 December 2017 10: 42
              And now we still know that capitalism has not canceled the disadvantages of socialism, but brought them simply to a transcendental level. And capitalist ones were added to these minuses.
    3. +4
      22 December 2017 13: 30
      Quote: Finches
      “Do not despair!”, Then we will succeed!


      and what did they do?
      1. +5
        22 December 2017 17: 04
        Yes nifiga, everything was OK, while oil was traded in a hundred bucks.
    4. +2
      22 December 2017 13: 44
      Quote: Finches
      One can argue with something, it is reflected right ... At least it’s clear that the authors have a sore soul, and most of the participants in our forum are not indifferent and often suffer pain for tomorrow of the country - which means that not everything is so bad in Russia ! As wisely and courageously wrote to all of us from the stuffy compartment of the flooded submarine Kursk, Captain Kolesnikov:"Do not despair!"then everything will work out!

      I agree with the author, in almost everything, except for one thing, that athletes are from the same “opera” of consumers, namely THEY EARN MONEY, unlike workers' workshops, since there are no longer those factories and factories.
    5. +6
      22 December 2017 20: 00
      You know, I’m personally as a citizen - I DO NOT WANT for us to read something from our Flooded Boats !! am I DO NOT WANT - for boats to sink in Russia, planes to fall, pensioners or children to burn alive. am
      No, I don’t want to “by pike command”, I am based on the eternal phrase “every problem has a Last Name, First Name, Patronymic” what . That the boats, planes, ships would be checked and double-checked before the “departure”, and that at the slightest suspicion not unpreparedness would remain in place. What kind of crime (a flaw that led to problems or tragedy) - a specific person or a whole "group of comrades" sat down who did poorly for what they received money for (or for which they took it). Yes, I don’t take responsibility off myself - therefore, I began to "improve Russia" just from myself. Although I’m doing it in a small way, I can’t do it - I don’t buy Triebolt, I don’t give bribes, I don’t hit the window and I don’t throw garbage past the ballot box (briefly).
      There is another phrase that I like, but very sad "A country in which 18 year old guys are allowed to become heroes is unworthy of existence !!" soldier . Now Russia possesses weapons capable of destroying any country so that our boys - do not become Heroes, if you restore Order - you don’t have to heroically save people from burning houses or make any other heroes.
      There was a story from Siberia, where a 14-year-old grandfather’s guy threw himself into the cooling water this fall and saved either a woman with a child, or a couple of children, but it's not that he is the Hero and was told about him, but that the video on there were several “individuals with primary sexual characteristics of men” but not men. am And the kid - in the water saves, and these geeks - they take him to mobile phones. am You say, “and what are you dissatisfied with?”, But the fact that Muzhik could even have the thought “and here I can stand on the shore can someone else save the drowning people”. am . You need to send such people to Magadan, let them build a railway to Alaska, and beat them with whips to “stimulate” them.
  2. +42
    22 December 2017 06: 18
    Professional sports has long since become an outspoken farce. Everyone will compete in the farm. drugs without exceptions. Without them, individuals cannot be seen. I believe that all professional sports should be left to the private owners. In the West, this is the case in all countries, and the freed up finances, and there are a lot of them, are allowed to develop mass free physical education to improve the population of the country, for salaries to coaches of children's sports schools, equipment and equipment. There will be more sense for society than football players and other millionaires who are not worried for anything, ready to at least booty forward and crawl, spitting to go to competitions even knowing that they won’t win anything special. This is my opinion.
    1. +8
      22 December 2017 06: 52
      Quote: astronom1973n
      P, to go to competitions to spit even knowing that they won’t win anything special. This is my opinion.
      They will win some bonuses for demonstrating humility and lizopopiya.
    2. +11
      22 December 2017 13: 15
      Quote: astronom1973n
      Professional sports has long been an outspoken farce.
      ... footballers and other millionaires, who are not worried for anything, who are ready to at least boot forward and crawl, spitting out to go to competitions even knowing that they won’t win anything special.

      At the expense of what sports clubs of the USSR did national teams form - Olympic, international championships, etc.? Yeah, CSKA, SKA, Dynamo (that is, the Ministry of Internal Affairs ...) and others! Everyone is an officer, with uniform! And go under the “white flag” heap kudy - to become a variant of the “Vlasov” if not worse! From my youth I remember:
      -Hey goalkeeper, get ready for the fight,
      Sentinel you are set at the gate!
      Imagine what is behind you
      The border line is coming!
      ... threw the border, spat on the "border strip" ... Betrayal? ... as if - by any "verbal exercises" - he was not justified! Everyone understands - international sport is a war! now it’s “one of the components of a“ hybrid ”war; in any war one has to sacrifice something, suffer losses! and those who are“ under the white flag ”- uh, guys, shoot here; and they can kill! ... or - we’ll lose the loot !!! which is much worse than death ... No, the white flag - and no compromises! everyone understands everything already! (though - each in his own way ...).
      --------------------
      About education - everything became clear almost immediately with the introduction of the exam and the exam: purposeful, planned and carefully organized destruction of the education system in the former USSR! Already now it’s not even a drawback, but the lack of qualified (mostly technical) personnel in industry, energy, transport, agriculture ...
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      Culture directly influences the rewriting of history; the cultural elite of the country shows itself in mass - an anti-people’s, malignant tumor in the body of the country!
      The mass cult is actively destroying the national mentality (it turns out worse for the religious part of the population, especially Muslims) - despite repeated prohibitions, same-sex marriages are registered, and juvenile justice is rampant ... Is there no power in power ?! But - if "on command" it is necessary to "put someone" - "to sing" for a sweet soul, "according to the law", "according to article", or without them! ... And frank, thieves caught by the hand - the investigation lasts for years ...
  3. +30
    22 December 2017 06: 33
    Education, culture, history, sports are really moving farther and farther from Soviet norms and capabilities. The authors are right in their article in everything. Honestly, a quiet but distinct glee of the Russian "liberal" party and raising toasts for a complete victory over the "rashka" is already being heard. Sad and sad.
    1. +8
      22 December 2017 06: 55
      Quote: rotmistr60
      . Honestly, a quiet but distinct glee of the Russian "liberal" party and raising toasts for a complete victory over the "rashka" is already being heard. Sad and sad.
      This ----- will always want further humiliation of the Russian people!
    2. 0
      23 December 2017 03: 08
      Quote: rotmistr60
      Honestly, a quiet but distinct glee of the Russian "liberal" party and raising toasts for a complete victory over the "rashka" is already being heard. Sad and sad.

      But we still go and vote again for the continuation of this "banquet"!)
  4. +14
    22 December 2017 07: 10
    And the output is just a charming society: spiritless, uncultured, uneducated, not knowing and, most importantly, not appreciating its past. But well managed and able to consume.
    An ideal flock for a shepherd.
    The author himself wrote the answer, not in the eyebrow but in the eye. Everything is written correctly, this mess from which you want to howl, but yesterday I wrote about the reason for this mess, capitalism, Russia reminds me, paralysis, in which part of the organs do not work, part jerks in convulsions, considering itself an independent limb, bowel incontinence, so just as it is also independent of the body and the central nervous system, but the nervous system, which must a priori control the entire body, states that all organs are private, because in the EU this is the way we should be, and yet the obese liver and other organs destroy themselves and the carcass as a whole. The diagnosis of such an organism, one, fatal outcome. What to do rhetorical question? Not set by me a century ago. I think a couple of years to hold out, we, rearm the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, will take up the domestic market, I want to believe in it. We’ll wait and see, we can see the tip of the iceberg, which we don’t know under water.
    1. +19
      22 December 2017 07: 56
      Quote: Sirocco
      I think a couple of years to hold out, we, rearm the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, will take up the domestic market, I want to believe in it. We’ll wait and see, we can see the tip of the iceberg, which we don’t know under water.

      It is naive. For 25 years of "independence" we saw only two, the destroyer of the USSR and its successor. They did their job perfectly, the USSR was destroyed first, the successor destroyed not only the opportunity, but even the dreams of rebirth. It is foolish to think that there is some kind of cunning plan and that someone will be willing to revive the economy. 18 years is enough time to understand who is who, not to build illusions and not to tell tales about icebergs and the "heroic struggle under water."
      1. +4
        22 December 2017 11: 56
        not to build illusions and not to tell tales about icebergs and the "heroic struggle under water.
        You are probably a lover of fairy tales and stories from historians, I, unlike you, express my thoughts and views, and you see fairy tales, to see you beaten with life. I will answer you about the Bible that you quoted on another thread. You do not read carefully who comes from whom, according to the Bible, no one will go down, I have already talked about this, where is the lie and where is the truth, no one will understand. Answer my simple question on a biblical topic, since humanity has come from biblical characters, how are we still alive? With incest, the genus is doomed. So it wasn’t just Adam and Eve? Well? Where is the truth and where is the lie?
    2. 0
      23 December 2017 03: 11
      Quote: Sirocco
      What to do rhetorical question?

      "Cut! Without waiting for peritonitis!")))) (From the classics of Soviet cinema "Pokrovsky gates")
  5. +14
    22 December 2017 07: 19
    Dear authors of the article and authors of comments hi !
    And how do you like this expression:
    In modern Russia, it is difficult to find a field of activity that cannot be drastically improved (improved for the country) by simply canceling the changes and reforms that have been made.
    1. +9
      22 December 2017 08: 35
      Quote: My address
      Dear Authors hi !
      And how do you like this expression:
      In modern Russia, it is difficult to find a field of activity that cannot be drastically improved (improved for the country) by simply canceling the changes and reforms that have been made.

      It is absolutely true, but the trouble is that some areas of activity, such as the electronics industry or precision engineering, through the efforts of ardent reformers and knee-high inserts, are simply no longer physically and therefore, strictly speaking, there is nothing to counter-reform.
      1. +2
        23 December 2017 03: 15
        Quote: romey
        It is absolutely true, but the trouble is that some areas of activity, such as the electronics industry or precision engineering, through the efforts of ardent reformers and knee-high inserts, are simply no longer physically and therefore, strictly speaking, there is nothing to counter-reform.

        What exact engineering?) We buy hardware with tools in China.
  6. +19
    22 December 2017 07: 28
    Well done journalists - Alexander Staver, Roman Skomorokhov. Every day on a hot topic. How everything is true about the Donbass and the murdered patriots of the Russian world, how the soul hurts for the Motherland, and how vile the power of the corrupt scum who occupied the Kremlin and the Government
    1. +16
      22 December 2017 07: 44
      Quote: Nonna
      Well done journalists - Alexander Staver, Roman Skomorokhov. Every day on a hot topic. How everything is true about the Donbass and the murdered patriots of the Russian world, how the soul hurts for the Motherland, and how vile the power of the corrupt scum who occupied the Kremlin and the Government

      I subscribe to every word!
      Article +++++
      1. +5
        22 December 2017 10: 02
        Everything that the authors described was understandable to any sane person. There is no answer to the obvious question: "What to do?" Without a clear understanding of where to move to turn the tide, you can write articles and shake the air for years. They pointed a finger at a bunch of guano, they said byak. AND????!!!!!!
        1. +7
          22 December 2017 10: 22
          If everything is clear to you, then why do not you share your thoughts with us?
        2. +8
          22 December 2017 11: 35
          AKuzenka, 10:02. Tips ** what to do and where to move ** enough for VO and everywhere. The only question is, who listens to these tips? Is the president of Russia listening to the advice of the people a lot? There is sometimes a feeling that we do not have the president of Russia, but the governor of the US state. And sport is a litmus test showing the real state. Although the plaque and the year of Solzhenitsyn already say a lot. We are partners! We have already given up. There is no longer a confrontation either in science or in technology, well, nowhere do we compete with the United States. Only passive partner partnerships! We no longer produce hydrofoil vessels, which we began to produce 12 years after the war. Although the device is not complicated by modern standards. We no longer produce civilian aircraft. Even the advertised ** Tuple ** cannot be overcome! And the Chinese can easily copy and produce everything! If you could easily write off your school from a neighbor, today you are not even able to do it! So think about who, whom and where you poked.
        3. +11
          22 December 2017 13: 28
          If they write here what needs to be done, then the authors can be accused of incitement to overthrow the government and anti-constitutional coup. And there are simply no other ways.
          1. +1
            23 December 2017 03: 22
            Quote: mih_sergeev92
            If they write here what needs to be done, then the authors can be accused of incitement to overthrow the government and anti-constitutional coup. And there are simply no other ways.

            True, those who will blame, for some reason, quietly keep silent about the unconstitutional coup in the 91st year. Strange, isn't it?)))
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    3. +2
      22 December 2017 17: 52
      https://youtu.be/AeDfASRo3LE

      Here is a video close to the content of the article by uv. comrade R. Skomorokhov and comrade A. Staver, in which SW. comrade S. Glazev explains in detail why, from the point of view of economic science, the first (1991 - 2016) 25 years of the so-called market reforms of the new government, in comparison with the first (1917 - 1942) 25 years of reforms of the Soviet Government, look plague . Moreover, note that the initial conditions are not comparable.
      Glaring not professionalism, at least.



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  7. +18
    22 December 2017 07: 36
    Patriotism, honor, kindness, the ability to protect the weak and other "obsolete moral categories" of the Soviet heritage have already outlived themselves
    And in place of "Man to man - friend, comrade and brother" comes "Man to man is a wolf"!
    1. +8
      22 December 2017 12: 57
      Russia is destroyed by the same forces that once destroyed the Great Byzantine Empire. Destruction came from the rejection of spirituality, which united our society. Substitution of provisions and concepts. It happened, because we pay less attention to such human actions as saving people from a burning house, helping drowning people, calling fire on ourselves, than on advertising sales and a chronicle of incidents. If we wait another 6 years, then again and again, the growing generation will not know either the clan or the tribe ... And thanks to the leadership of the authorities, instead of the red banner of Victory, which came to replace him with triclore, we will look at the blue UN flag with symbol of the double-headed emblem of the Bank of Russia ...
      1. +4
        22 December 2017 13: 53
        Quote: Esoteric
        we will look at the blue UN banner with the symbol of the double-headed emblem of the Bank of Russia ...

        good Well said
  8. +15
    22 December 2017 07: 52
    So far, only a part of society has been infected.
    ... With gangrene, so that the infection does not cover the whole body, the affected part is amputated ... But alas, the "healers" have been in power for 25 years, and not the medical specialists ...
  9. +3
    22 December 2017 08: 00
    Ideology can be confused with true spirituality (religious) only by a quasi-religious fanatic, drawn by sectarian beliefs, and not by pure religious faith.

    In the souls of such people, a clever substitution of religious meanings for quasi-religious meanings, for example, communist ones, was made. And outwardly religious forms remain. For example, pledges of allegiance to communist leaders and other symbols of the communist faith, etc. rituals.

    There may be many good words in quasireligion in form, but in essence the main meanings of fanatics around which fanatics are grouped BY FACT are the meanings of hatred, total struggle. For example, instead of progressing on their own, they concentrate on struggle, hatred of those who are richer, more talented, better. A person obsessed with hatred of rich people naturally becomes incapable of understanding the motives, way of thinking of rich people. After all, hatred is a wall. It completely blocks the objectivity of the perceptions of any person engulfed in hatred. And liberal fanatics, on the contrary, concentrate on hatred for those who are poorer, dumber, weaker. They do not understand, for example, that poor people are the same as they really are. These are not goblins from another planet, but people. Inside are the same as they really are. There is God in everyone.

    So the poles are different. But the essence is the same for liberals and communists (demonic) - hatred.

    Communist and liberal fanatics are twin brothers. And they were also born in one place - in the West. Since the hatred of fanatics is an irrational feeling rooted in the limbic, “reptilian”, lower system of the brain (that is, deep in the subconscious), people who are obsessed with it enter various irrational pseudo-spiritual states, obscure from a truly spiritual point of view, when to inexperienced people around them they may seem kind, spiritual, spiritual people. This is an illusion of spirituality. Deceiving.

    In the Christian tradition, such pseudo-spiritual states are commonly called “spiritual charms” as base, inherent in the lower manifestations of the spirit. This is demonic (see Dostoevsky's "Demons") ...


    It is because of the demonic essence of communist beliefs that pseudo-spiritual (in their interpretation) ideas of personal modesty, equality, fraternity, non-possessiveness, the idea of ​​devoting one’s own life for the sake of others, the idea of ​​caring for others in the same people can instantly transform into extreme forms of egoism: acquisitiveness , all kinds of bodily and spiritual vice - which happened massively by the Communists in the 90s. That is, one demonic pseudo-spiritual essence is easily transformed from a program of false pseudo-spiritual types of communist "virtue" (which is only in form) to another program of spiritual and bodily evils in all forms. One role easily changes to another ...

    When it becomes possible, when opportunities arise, the communist "virtues" are easily transformed into demons, demons come out in an open form. They go out and start to kill. Like in the 90s ....

    And everyone is “guilty” at the same time .... The werewolf communists have guilty feelings - this is the main internal and external psychological manipulation that the communists use to cover up their own demonic essence, blaming other people for their sins (in their own official communist moral values ​​system). That is, the Communists are hypocrites in the true spiritual plane. Hypocrites.

    The true virtue of a pure religious person from the demonic lying "virtue" of the Communists is distinguished by constancy, regardless of the circumstances of life. Out of pride as well.

    So what is important to realize?
    1. Spirit, spirituality - these are all religious meanings, these are meanings from the sphere of religion. All three world religions practiced in Russia are religions where love and the commandments of love are the main thing. All the traditional societies of the West and East, all modern spiritual values ​​were created on the basis of traditional spiritual values. They were created long before the Communists, who only re-interpreted them in their own way and gave them out for “revelation”, for something unprecedented.

    2. It is important to realize that the so-called the “spirituality” used by the adherents of the communist quasi-religion is false spirituality, it is that which is based on lies. That is why the Communists, who swore allegiance to the communist pseudo-altruistic ideals on a massive scale until the 1990s, proved to be the most cynical and vile pack of selfish rats that torn Russia to pieces in the 90s. All the wealth of Russia until the 1990s was under the power of the CPSU. There were no other authorities. It was these people who defined life in the 90s. It’s just that the demons went outside, what had been hiding for 70 years - everything showed up in an open form, all at the ready ....

    Thus, a person striving for true spirituality, which is born ONLY from the commandments of love, comes to religious practice. He is moving away from quasi-religious substitutes of pure religious faith, choosing the traditional religions of Russia. Since in our country the freedom of faith, constitutionally enshrined, no one can force a person to profess any faith or belief. A person can choose his faith voluntarily. So it is and it will be so. And no demons will ever dictate the rules of life to people, getting into their brains, washing them with pseudo-religious sectarian communist nonsense.

    The state is separated from ideology and from any religion. Russia is a secular state. Faith of man is a private affair of man. No ideology or faith in Russia is allowed to force itself upon you. That is why Russia is a free state of free people. What you need to appreciate.

    If some communists want to sit in the handcuffs of their lying ideology, picking at their own guano their own feelings of guilt - this is exclusively their private affair.

    People who are truly religious, loving, will never force their faith on others. But this does not mean that they do not have spiritual principles that they will protect from aggressors. The Communists, their demons, it is useful to remember ...
    1. +9
      22 December 2017 09: 21
      askme
      Do you have your own thoughts? I started to read -
      the brain boiled and rebelled. Not mastered ... Here GDP is two heads above all. He speaks clearly and convincingly. Learn, my dear.
    2. +6
      22 December 2017 11: 50
      askme, 08:00. *** A person obsessed with hatred of rich people naturally becomes incapable of understanding the motives, way of thinking of rich people. After all, hatred is a wall. It completely blocks the objectivity of the perceptions of any person engulfed in hatred. *** Wow! The poor hate the rich! And how does the rich relate to the poor? Why doesn't he help them get richer? The idea that there are no rich people is not like it. The idea that there are no poor people does not work. The rich cultivate poverty. Where are the pros here? *** The state is separated from ideology and from any religion. Russia is a secular state. Faith of man is a private affair of man. No ideology or faith in Russia is allowed to force itself upon you. That is why Russia is a free state of free people. *** Is this how the state is separated from us? Separated from the communist. And the imposition of the capitalist, is that? Is the state separate from religion? And why is Orthodox Russia if there is more than one denomination in the country? Why do they impose Orthodoxy on those who do not profess this religion? Why is Shoigu going to the parade baptized? Who among Western politicians said the phrase ** Freedom is only naked! ** Roosevelt or Churchill?
    3. +13
      22 December 2017 11: 56
      Everything is simple. Tell us about the "spirituality" of the oligarchs. Maybe they will penetrate and we don’t have to collect SMS for the treatment of children.
      In the meantime, the oligarchy is what it is, it deserves hatred. And if it goes on like this, then hatred can be realized in concrete actions.
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    5. +5
      22 December 2017 13: 51
      Quote: askme
      Communist and liberal fanatics are twin brothers. And they were also born in one place - in the West. .

      I found out an interesting thing - I found on the Internet a caricature published somewhere in New York or in Washington, in one of the "big newspapers".
      The caricature came out (accompanied by the corresponding article) after the publication and distribution of Marx's Capital; in the picture of Marx, they thank and shake his hand ... recognizable heads of the families - “masters of the world”: Rockefellers, Dupons, Cargillas, Lauders and the rest of Hirst ... are they surrounded by a crowd ... Why are they thanked? And here - for the theory of surplus value, and for the interpretation of the very concept of "capital"! And Russia on this "ideology" tried to build statehood! If it were not for Stalin, who resolutely (without advertising this step ...) retreated from Marxism ... Alas, I did not finish it! not allowed...
      1. 0
        23 December 2017 10: 45
        What is the backslider?
  10. +5
    22 December 2017 08: 03
    To begin with, the question to the authors about free payment ...
    Why did “free” working teachers and doctors get paid, As the others ?
    And the second question. Where did they get the money from? Not the Western capitalists paid them, but then who?
    1. +8
      22 December 2017 09: 26
      Quote: cedar
      To begin with, the question to the authors about free payment ...
      Why did “free” working teachers and doctors get paid, As the others ?
      And the second question. Where did they get the money from? Not the Western capitalists paid them, but then who?

      Wake up, dear, and then criticize. Or, would you just check in? Go, first wanted to be in the comments?)))
      Where in the article is it written that teachers worked for free?
    2. +9
      22 December 2017 13: 25
      Quote: cedar
      To begin with, the question to the authors about free payment ...

      If you study the economic model of the socialist system, then it will become clear to you that the wages of all those working in the USSR were charged from budget funds (articles). And these expenses did not include the outflow of capital for the construction of villas in Spain, the creation of various funds of "my name", the purchase of foreign football clubs and yachts from stocks of foreign shipbuilders. Development went inside. The money earned by the world went to social programs. Therefore, in the USSR they produced, worked, created, and production growth rates of 1,2% could only be an indicator of palm hair growth ... belay
      1. +2
        23 December 2017 03: 29
        Quote: Esoteric
        Therefore, in the USSR they produced, worked, created, and production growth rates of 1,2% could only be an indicator of palm hair growth ...

        Strong! good
  11. +16
    22 December 2017 09: 09
    Everything is written correctly, but nothing can be changed. Those who have money change their lives. Other methods of change are criminal and people who wear such thoughts should be disposed of, like Colonel Kvachkov. The hero gave his health for his homeland, and sits in his 70s, like the last convict. Ulyukaev is already about to be released, although he practically did not start to sit. His health is poor, and billions are idle. And Kvachkov - to hell with him. Not sugar ... The whole system of values ​​has changed! Thieves - we release and return billions, and pus heroes and God forbid they will leave ahead of time. What can I say? Putin is a demigod, he does everything right and super-right, and as a result, decline is everywhere. Even Cosmos is in our ass now. Minus GDP, no matter how Putin puffed up and did not talk about two percent growth. This Oreshkin learned to count through the back or mouth. I don’t know how, but obviously wrong. (In China, they would hold on to their bellies if they were "proud" of such achievements). For some reason, we rejoice with the president. I would cry with such achievements of the government.
    The most amazing thing is that Putin says one thing and does the exact opposite. And besides him, there are no more sane at all. This is the saddest thing!
    1. +3
      22 December 2017 13: 28
      Quote: indifferent
      Everything is written correctly, but nothing can be changed. Those who have money change their lives.

      There is one answer here:
      Tell me, American, what is the strength? Is it in the money? So the brother says that in money. You have a lot of money, and why? I think that power is in truth. Whoever has the truth is stronger. So you deceived someone, you made money. And why, have you become stronger? No, I didn’t. Because the truth is not for you. And the one whom he deceived is the truth behind him, which means he is stronger.
    2. +13
      22 December 2017 14: 13
      I propose to vote for Grudinin in the elections if he stands for election.
      1. 0
        22 December 2017 18: 03
        It will turn out as in Belarus.
    3. +6
      22 December 2017 17: 14
      So the sane are not allowed to break through. From the word nowhere. The built-up system of power in Russia serves only the interests of the Government. Shas a little later there will be those from whom in 24 year "choose the thread."
    4. 0
      23 December 2017 07: 18
      Agree to 100%
  12. +2
    22 December 2017 09: 17
    The massism of the "chosen" people has permeated all power structures throughout the world - we are no exception. It is especially interesting to hear sayings about the American people of the United States - there is no such people, but there is a bunch of people led by the Zionists. Praise God that God and the Most Holy protect Russia from this outrage of the World Order.
    1. +5
      22 December 2017 13: 35
      Quote: monk
      The massism of the "chosen" people permeated all power structures around the world ....

      Yes, already tired of the "Freemasonry"!
      Masons are a variant of the "scout squads" or the "club of young marmots" for wealthy adult uncles! with the same mystical paraphernalia in the form of scepters, emblems and all kinds of caps with beaver tails and alpenstocks with ermine lanyards ...
  13. +17
    22 December 2017 09: 31
    I wrote about this to everyone in the comments.
    Here the puzzle develops very simply.
    1) The USA is the recognized center of the capitalist world, their financial. political and ideological tentacles pervade the whole world. Russia is the periphery of capitalism and therefore must obey. But in some aspects, except for those indicated in the article, it still does not obey and this is openly and deservedly infuriating the United States. We must bow to the new Hitler in the person of the United States.
    2) I don’t agree about the lack of ideology. Cultural cultures, sports and everything else adheres very clearly to liberal ideology. For the patriots, the Black-Hundred ideology has been prepared "Our Tsar the Father Putin (Nikolai II, Alexander the Third, please add what you need), Our Orthodox God, Do not shame Russia." A very clear paradigm.
    Here Ulyukaev sat, Serebrennikov sat. The screams of "sick mothers" and of "persecution" immediately began. Yes, in the USA they would have beaten 25 years to begin with in the most democratic way, and even they would have put in the cell to young blacks, who are about 10 years old without sex. That's really there. The horrors of the "bloody gebni" would have seemed daisies like Pavlensky, an artist who did not draw anything, but nailed testicles to the paving stones.
    Just recently, we found out that our reserves were supplemented by cut paper from the USA by 63%. And they say it is very cool. It is necessary to rejoice. Apparently there will be no war with the USA for about 50 years. And now we are just exchanging jokes.
    Just recently, the United States democratically said that US athletes would not go to the Olympics, suddenly Eun would start a war. And no you "we plowed", "the athlete is innocent." That's all.
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  14. +4
    22 December 2017 09: 45
    And in it more and more space is occupied by characters whose appearance is not otherwise strange. Wrangel, Mannerheim, Nicholas II, Alexander the Third, Kolchak.

    What is so strange here? This is our story and does not suit anyone the so-called the “knowledge” that the Soviet history of them gave us: all of them, they say, bastards and all enemies of the people.
    Was that a story? She was silent about the terrible famine of 1932-33, 46-48, about millions of deprived people, about thousands of exploding monuments of the History of Russia, about the most valuable churches from the 11th century, from which they built quarries, plowed under the summer cottages of heroes of the wars for Russia, hushed up the victims of the Great Patriotic War , crimes of the "friends" of the USSR-Hungarians and Romanians in the Second World War and much, much more. No need for such a "story".
    And the country has an idea and it is being promoted at all levels: “We have no and cannot have another unifying idea, besides patriotism, We’ll come up with no other idea, and we don’t have to come up with
    V.V. Putin And he's 100% right
    1. +17
      22 December 2017 12: 14
      Olgovich, 09:45. Olgovich! You’d better talk about today. Why is hunger in Russia today? Why are we few natural products and full of substitutes? Or is it not hunger? Soy substitutes, meat emulsions, palm oil, GMO products, is this all a normal diet? Why today oncology mortality has increased? The temples were crumbling! Which was full on every corner of today's stores? Why so much? How did religion help move science and industry? What is the role of religion in enlightenment? Miracle, Miracle! Well, go to the circus and look at the magicians. There are also miracles. Why aren't illusionists elevated to the rank of saints and miracle workers? Obscurantism is your religion. This is from the media category of Dr. Goebbels. What religion has been doing for centuries. But today on every street there is a church, but life didn’t get any better from this, the plant wasn’t built, the rocket didn’t take off. *** And the country has an Idea and it is being promoted at all levels: “We have no and cannot have any other unifying idea, except patriotism. We will not come up with any other idea, and we don’t have to come up with it” *** This is Putin delivered such a speech? To those who have double and triple citizenship and accounts abroad !? Is it that they are so patriotic that they withdraw funds to offshore? And Putin then asks the West to invest in Russia. Wonderful, wonderful !!! Some patriotically removed from home, and partners should equip Russia! And why are our offshore patriots in no hurry to build factories and cities in Russia? Why are they exporting them so patriotically that they are already threatened with seizure of accounts. Here Kolomoisky has already been frozen (the first one went). But he believed the West, he believed! And then bam! Like the Chicago mafia, they took and covered! But he was a patriot of the West like our native Russian nouveau riche! Well, what about patriotism?
      1. +8
        22 December 2017 13: 42
        Quote: Region 34
        Olgovich, 09:45. Olgovich! You’d better talk about today. Why is hunger in Russia today? Why are we few natural products and full of substitutes?

        There is no famine in Russia in the plan as you draw it to us. There are difficulties in making money for food due to the lack of production in the country (enterprises, factories, factories, workshops ...) In a word - capitalism, with an animal grin, speculation, ersatz products, ideology and enlightenment, a social security system and health care ...
        Why are they exported from Russia and not imported back? Because the thief never spins on the place of theft and does not shake the "dough" in front of law enforcement agencies.
        Patriotism in Russia was not translated, and moral encouragement of patriots can be achieved, but only under the white flag, and the government (thieves) does not pay money for patriotism.
      2. 0
        23 December 2017 10: 29
        Quote: Region 34
        You’d better talk about today. Why is hunger in Russia today?

        There is no famine in Russia. Hunger is 1921, 25, 32,35, 47, 52 g of which, as it were.
        Quote: Region 34
        Why are we few natural products and full of substitutes? Or is it not hunger? Soy substitutes, meat emulsions, palm oil, GMO products, is this all a normal diet? Why today oncology mortality has increased?

        ALL the world lives like this.
        Quote: Region 34
        The temples were crumbling! Which was full on every corner of today's stores? Why so much? How did religion help move science and industry? What is the role of religion in enlightenment?

        It wasn’t your business, sorry. Temples are monuments of culture, history, memory of the people.
        Quote: Region 34
        Why aren't illusionists elevated to the rank of saints and miracle workers? Obscurantism is your religion. This is from the media category of Dr. Goebbels. What religion has been doing for centuries.

        This is not your business: freedom of conscience and religion were laid down in all constitutions even of the USSR.
        Quote: Region 34
        Is this to whom Putin addressed such a speech? To those who have double and triple citizenship and accounts abroad !? Is it that they are so patriotic that they withdraw funds to offshore? And Putin then asks the West to invest in Russia. Wonderful, wonderful !!! Some patriotically removed from home, and partners should equip Russia! And why are our offshore patriots in no hurry to build factories and cities in Russia? Why are they exporting them so patriotically that they are already threatened with seizure of accounts. Here Kolomoisky has already been frozen (the first one went). But he believed the West, he believed! And then bam! Like the Chicago mafia, they took and covered! But he was a patriot of the West like our native Russian nouveau riche! Well, what about patriotism?

        Putin addresses all Russians and Russians. Correctly does and the idea of ​​patriotism is excellent.
        They invest money where it is profitable. Do you act differently?
        The task of the state is to ensure profitability and its own interests: to find a balance.
        1. +1
          23 December 2017 11: 07
          Olgovich, 10:29. Olgovich! The loaf is vigorous! You are our caring! But under capitalism there is no hunger? Why is there starving and poverty in capital countries? Why do not we recall the regular famine in tsarist Russia? Hunger is not when bread is not ugly, but when there is no swan. The people lived at the level of cattle. We won’t eat, but we’ll sell bread! Was money (currency) more expensive than peasants? Does the whole world eat slop and is this wonderful? Everything is on the substitutes! Should we strive for this? Cigarettes without nicotine, alcohol without alcohol, lips from botex, boobs from silicone, a woman from rubber ...! Well, perfect society !? Many temples have survived to this day. Although, according to some, they were all destroyed. Monuments of history !? So they are all on the same architecture! Go take them apart when built! Memory of the people !? What is the memory of? About religious tales? So Peter also showed the deceit of churchmen. So the church is a means of fooling and not prosperity and progress. How did the church help the common people? Did you teach, heal, build their housing? What does the church do today? Raising money. For all! And how is soul, faith and money connected? The idea of ​​patriotism is excellent !? To which country in power and oligarchs patriotism? Which country do they support financially? In which country do they keep money from patriotic feelings and in which country do they teach their children patriotism ??? The task of the state to ensure profitability and their interests !? Is it profitable for statehood to have a poor population? Is it beneficial for the state to have a living wage less than the norm of the convicted person? And then whose interests is the state representing (or is it not a state, but a colony)?
          1. 0
            23 December 2017 11: 56
            Quote: Region 34
            Olgovich! The loaf is vigorous! You are our caring! But under capitalism there is no hunger? Why is there starving and poverty in capital countries? Why do not we recall the regular famine in tsarist Russia?

            Region! Spruce the fire! You are our forgetful! Such famines, with cannibalism, carnivore, eating, and falling millions of victims in Russia and Europe have never been!
            Quote: Region 34
            We won’t eat, but we’ll sell bread!

            Yes it 1932-1933, 1946-1947 when there were millions of victims of hunger., for in these years -
            Quote: Region 34
            Money (currency) was more expensive than the life of peasants

            Quote: Region 34
            Does the whole world eat slop and is this wonderful? Everything is on the substitutes! Should we strive for this? Cigarettes without nicotine, alcohol without alcohol, lips from botex, boobs from silicone, a woman from rubber ...! Well, perfect society !?

            It is AVAILABLE for money for overgrown of humanity. Nature has long been lacking and it is insanely expensive.
            Quote: Region 34
            ? Many temples have survived to this day. Although, according to some, they were all destroyed. Monuments of history !? So they are all on the same architecture! Go take them apart when built! Memory of the people !? What is the memory of?

            Destroyed by you churches and cathedrals (Vladimir Ts-v, Kazan Cathedral, the Cathedral of Christ the Savior and others) are MONUMENTS in honor victories of the Russian peopleand in the wars with the Tatar, Polish, French conquerors. ALL main monuments of the Victory in 1812 blown up by you are blown up people's memory. The unique buildings of the temples of Suzdal, Vladimir, the Kremlin, etc., were destroyed - the soul and treasure of the Russian people. On one face to you? So eliminate your ignorance by teaching, and then admire!
            Quote: Region 34
            So the church is a means of fooling and not prosperity and progress. How did the church help the common people? Did you teach, heal, build their housing? What does the church do today? Raising money. For all! And how is soul, faith and money connected?

            NOT YOUR business, sir! Read the Constitution of the Russian Federation!
            When you press, run to the temple, as the elderly communists run.
            Quote: Region 34
            The idea of ​​patriotism is excellent !? To which country in power and oligarchs patriotism? Which country do they support financially? In which country do they keep money from patriotic feelings and in which country do they teach their children patriotism ??? The task of the state to ensure profitability and their interests !? Is it profitable for statehood to have a poor population? Is it beneficial for the state to have a living wage less than the norm of the convicted person? And then whose interests is the state representing (or is it not a state, but a colony)?

            The idea of ​​patriotism is excellent, Yes! For ALL citizens of the country.
            Poverty in Russia-NO.

            And there was no paradise on earth and will not be soon. But to strive for this is necessary.
            1. +1
              26 December 2017 09: 44
              Quote: Olgovich
              Region! Spruce the fire! You are our forgetful! Such famines, with cannibalism, carnivore, eating, and falling millions of victims in Russia and Europe have never been!

              How was it not? And the Great Famine of 1601-1602? Cannibalism - it was, eating fell - it was. They ate everything that was possible (and what was impossible - too).
              Quote: Olgovich
              Yes, this is 1932-1933, 1946-1947. when there were millions of victims of hunger., for in these years -
              Quote: 34 region
              Money (currency) was more expensive than the life of peasants

              About 1946-47 - you're lying. Insolently. Then only the war passed, and it was fought on most of the arable land. And about 32-33 - yes, that was. Because it was necessary to carry out industrialization. If we hadn’t done this, we would have, if we were born, then spoke German, counted to 50 — the maximum and would have plowed the German Herr like damned.
              Quote: Olgovich
              It is AVAILABLE in money for an overgrown humanity. Nature has long been lacking and it is insanely expensive.

              Rubber woman, silicone boobs are available for money ... Are NATURALs so expensive, or what?
              Quote: Olgovich

              The main monuments of the Victory in 1812, blown up by you, are an exploded memory of the people. The unique buildings of the temples of Suzdal, Vladimir, the Kremlin, etc., were destroyed - the soul and treasure of the Russian people. On one face to you? So eliminate your ignorance by teaching, and then admire!

              Here is not for you to talk about it !!! The memory of the people is destroyed including you. The period of history, when Russia was the most powerful of all its incarnations, is trampled into the mud, is distorted, as soon as possible, to please oneself loved ones. What, the Kremlin was blown up too? The oldest cathedrals also stand as they stood. So do not here la la.
              Quote: Olgovich
              NOT YOUR business, sir! Read the Constitution of the Russian Federation!

              Good advice! Russia is a secular country! According to our Constitution (albeit lousy)
              Quote: Olgovich
              The idea of ​​patriotism is excellent, Yes! For ALL citizens of the country.
              Poverty in Russia-NO.

              Patriotism is a property of a person, not an idea. And for scum he was as a cover, and will remain.

              NO POVERTY ??? Tell that to about 20 million people (yeah, 23 million) living below the poverty line. This is POVERTY !!!
        2. +1
          26 December 2017 09: 18
          Quote: Olgovich
          There is no famine in Russia. Hunger is 1921, 25, 32,35, 47, 52 g of which, as it were.

          Forgot 1941-44 in Leningrad. And indeed, almost throughout the country. And besides, in tsarist Russia there was no famine in principle, right? And that is why peasants including swans ate?
          Quote: Olgovich
          ALL the world lives like this.

          If the whole world lives like cattle - this is not a reason for us to live the same. If you like to live like a cattle - please, but it somehow disgusts me.
          Quote: Olgovich
          It wasn’t your business, sorry. Temples are monuments of culture, history, memory of the people.

          And also places of mass zombies. By the way, the Soviet period is part of our history. Which spits including you. So do not you talk about it.
          Quote: Olgovich
          This is not your business: freedom of conscience and religion were laid down in all constitutions even of the USSR.

          Yes. But this was not welcomed precisely for the reasons indicated by the esteemed 34 region. And rightly so.
          Quote: Olgovich
          Putin addresses all Russians and Russians. Correctly does and the idea of ​​patriotism is excellent.

          Patriotism is not the basis of ideology, it is not an idea, but a human property, so to speak. Like humanity. They won’t make her an idea, right?
    2. +12
      22 December 2017 13: 21
      About the trillions of those shot in the Gulag?
      Patriotism? Now patriotism is increasingly demanding something already done wrong with the oligarchs. Already insistently demands so. Since if so left, then we will be patriots of a non-existent country.
      Therefore, Putin is either 100% wrong, or he is a pawn, to which everyone scored and there is no need to mention him.
      1. 0
        23 December 2017 10: 32
        Quote: groks
        About the trillions of those shot in the Gulag?

        Yes. This is part of our story. Are you not interested in her?
        Quote: groks
        Therefore, Putin is either 100% wrong, or he is a pawn, to which everyone scored and there is no need to mention him.

        Putin is 100% right ,
        Putin pawn? belay What is the matter, dear?
        1. +2
          23 December 2017 11: 03
          Yeah. So by the number of objections there? So THIS is our story? Yes figs to you. This is a style story. kalibr-a, in isolation from reality, written to humiliate us.
          Does anyone at least listen to Putin? President’s instructions are carried out to what extent? And he says ... Gorbachev said so - it was interesting and unexpected, unusual.
          What are the practical results? Boards vampires who hangs? Who is creeping in front of Alekseeva? Who is pushing the country with crazy initiatives?

          Patriotism does not consist in jumping when pronouncing the name of the president. Patriotism is not putting on all the pink glasses.
          1. 0
            23 December 2017 12: 01
            Quote: groks
            Yeah. So by the number of objections there? So THIS is our story? Yes figs to you. This is a kalibr-a style story written in isolation from reality to humiliate us.

            No objection to the facts. This story is SILENT and as if nonexistent, at the present time.
            Quote: groks
            Does anyone at least listen to Putin? President’s instructions are carried out to what extent? And he says ... Gorbachev said so - it was interesting and unexpected, unusual.

            The whole world is listening to Putin.
            Quote: groks
            What are the practical results? Boards vampires who hangs? Who is creeping in front of Alekseeva? Who is pushing the country with crazy initiatives?

            Bottom line - SAVING RUSSIA,
            Quote: groks
            Patriotism does not consist in jumping when pronouncing the name of the president. Patriotism is not putting on all the pink glasses.

            I agree. And who is it for?
            1. +3
              23 December 2017 12: 56
              What are the facts? About trillions? Solzhenitsin has long been disassembled into molecules and turned his whole nonsense out.
              What does the silence mean? Now the people are sitting and then sitting. why exactly then sitters should cause some kind of awe?
              Listens to the whole world. What's next? And Trump is listening. Now in the top list of Eun in general - they listen very much.
              Preservation? Is this a merit? What exactly has been done? Two decades of copulation (at best) and conspicuous gestures in the last couple of years.
              Maybe this is not his merit? Maybe this is my merit? I have not "gone into business", I continue to work, for a not-so-good salary, in the defense industry. And here we have announced the "conversion" (this is like a jihhad, only worse). Is this the merit of conservation?
              1. 0
                23 December 2017 14: 38
                Quote: groks
                What are the facts? About trillions? Solzhenitsin has long been disassembled into molecules and turned his whole nonsense out.

                Facts about millions: only starvation died about 10% of the population with that power in the center of Europe, in the 20th century !: we read the documents of the State Duma, Winter and the Great Encyclopedia.
                Quote: groks
                What does the silence mean? Now the people are sitting and then sitting. why exactly then sitters should cause some kind of awe?

                It means that the terrible famine of 1932-33, 46-48 years, according to that "history", there WAS NOT at all! As well as millions of dispossessed and hundreds of thousands of victims of 37-38 years (about 2 thousand people a day were shot in the country). Is it the same today? belay
                Quote: groks
                Listens to the whole world. What's next?

                He listens and adjusts his policy. Few?
                Quote: groks
                Preservation? Is this a merit? What exactly has been done? Two decades of copulation (at best) and conspicuous gestures in the last couple of years.

                The country did not break up (what was going on), like under the rule of the Communists. Again a little?
                Quote: groks
                Maybe this is not his merit? Maybe this is my merit? I have not "gone into business", I continue to work, for a not-so-good salary, in the defense industry. And here we have announced the "conversion" (this is like a jihhad, only worse). Is this the merit of conservation?

                His merit. But yours too. But without him, you would not be enough.
                Competent conversion, while maintaining potential, salary and staff, is perfect for the country. Unfortunately, more often this happens very badly, you are right. The country is NOT perfect, alas. But it has never been perfect.
                I think I should write to Putin and the Administration, the courts and prosecutors, insisting on a normal decision.
                1. +3
                  23 December 2017 18: 11
                  Without “that power,” many people died of hunger every year. After the terrible war, with the destroyed economy - what is surprising in hunger? In general, there are no complaints against the fascists about this? Not at all?
                  The State Duma is now doing everything to bring the country to hunger again. So let them shove their materials.
                  Correction after listening - neighing and continue to do what you want? Embassies, Syria, sanctions for the Donbass.
                  A collapsed RF is not beneficial to the West. Otherwise, they would have collapsed in the 90s without any problems. It still has few problems, but the 90s are more indicative. Stop pumping money into Chechnya and tomorrow there will be an IG. Tatars won squint unkindly.
                  At the same time, the top is trying its best to quarrel everyone with everyone. It is understandable - this is the "legacy of totalitarianism." It turns out that the single RF so far is not the merit of our oligarchs, but rather of Western TNCs.
                  So where is the merit? Someone from adequate economists estimated that under Putin, they mediocrely sought resources for 3-5 Stalinist industrializations.
                  Competent conversion? What is it like? Can we compete with China on a routine basis? No? So why lie about conversion? Do we have our own production of accessories for household appliances? No? Why lie about conversion?
                  And even if they did not interfere with the remnants of production. So no - by all means and means. Last joke - 152-FZ. This is a sign! It is easier to close than to comply with the requirements of this nonsense. And GOZ? The idea, it seems, is not bad, but it is brought to such insanity that one can frankly say that IT IS DONE BY THE ENEMIES.
                  And you don’t need to write anymore. For example, because ILV fines past prosecutors. To Putin? He can. He will instruct to understand. They scored on his instructions for a long time, all to whom he entrusts and scored.
                  1. 0
                    23 December 2017 20: 12
                    Quote: groks
                    Without “that power,” many people died of hunger every year. After the terrible war, with the destroyed economy - what is surprising in hunger? In general, there are no complaints against the fascists about this? Not at all?

                    NOT dying since 1891. And under that power — without war, without catastrophe — starved to death 7 million people in 1932-33 - with cannibalism and corpse eating unprecedented in Russia. And in 1946-48, Hungarians, Romanians, Germans and Poles who had just committed massive crimes in the USSR were saved from starvation.
                    Quote: groks
                    The State Duma is now doing everything to bring the country to hunger again. So let them shove their materials.

                    Famine is 1922, 25,33,47,52 years
                    Quote: groks
                    A collapsed RF is not beneficial to the West. Otherwise, they would have collapsed in the 90s without any problems. It still has few problems, but the 90s are more indicative. Stop pumping money into Chechnya and tomorrow there will be an IG. Tatars won squint unkindly.

                    They made a mistake then in the West, they thought Russia was already in their pocket, but they would have collapsed. But then they tried, but late, Putin didn’t give it, with you
                    Quote: groks
                    At the same time, the top is trying its best to quarrel everyone with everyone. It is understandable - this is the "legacy of totalitarianism." It turns out that the single RF so far is not the merit of our oligarchs, but rather of Western TNCs.
                    So where is the merit? Someone from adequate economists estimated that under Putin, they mediocrely sought resources for 3-5 Stalinist industrializations.

                    The existing Russia is a merit. Stalin’s striaization-the beginning of the extinction of Russia. "Great achievement", yes ...
                    Quote: groks
                    Competent conversion? What is it like? Can we compete with China on a routine basis? No? So why lie about conversion? Do we have our own production of accessories for household appliances? No? Why lie about conversion?

                    Quote: groks
                    Competent conversion? What is it like? Can we compete with China on a routine basis? No? So why lie about conversion? Do we have our own production of accessories for household appliances? No? Why lie about conversion?

                    THERE ARE GOOD EXAMPLES !. Plant them. Sergo, who at the beginning of the 1959th century produced shells for artillery shells. However, back in 2000, household refrigerators began to be made here. Now, under the new Pozis sign and after modernization in the XNUMXs, modern wine cabinets and household refrigerators are produced here. And the plant is a leader in the country in the production of high-tech refrigerators for storing vaccines and blood plasma.
                    Even Izhmash, avionics for MS 21 and so on.
                    Quote: groks
                    And even if they did not interfere with the remnants of production. So no - by all means and means. Last joke - 152-FZ. This is a sign! It is easier to close than to comply with the requirements of this nonsense. And GOZ? The idea, it seems, is not bad, but it is brought to such insanity that one can frankly say that IT IS DONE BY THE ENEMIES.

                    Goz is not eternal, alas.
                    Quote: groks
                    And you don’t need to write anymore. For example, because ILV fines past prosecutors. To Putin? He can. He will instruct to understand. They scored on his instructions for a long time, all to whom he entrusts and scored.

                    The country, in spite of everything, lives. And Putin is not the last reason for this. So seen from the side.
                    Good luck! hi
                    1. +3
                      23 December 2017 20: 58
                      Witness to the famine?
                      Failures.
                      1. 0
                        24 December 2017 11: 02
                        Quote: groks
                        Witness to the famine?

                        And you are stuck on owls. textbook, where he was not? fool
                        But Ilych told you: "Learn, etc." And you...
            2. +1
              26 December 2017 09: 49
              Quote: Olgovich
              No objection to the facts. This story is SILENT and as if nonexistent, at the present time.

              What are the facts? There were 4 million repressed, and that was a maximum, not 40 and not “trillions”. This is FALSE !!! It has long been disassembled!
              Quote: Olgovich
              The whole world is listening to Putin.

              Yeah. In addition to his subordinates. How many of his instructions lie under the cloth?
              Quote: Olgovich
              Bottom line - SAVING RUSSIA,

              This is already how to look ... In general, I agree. Only now, the situation in Russia is similar to a steam boiler without a safety valve. Which is already boiling.
  15. +4
    22 December 2017 09: 50
    Well, what do you want? Woe to the vanquished.
  16. +2
    22 December 2017 09: 59
    Quote: R. Skomorokhov, A. Staver
    Our pro-American Constitution ... clearly states the absence of any state ideology

    Ideology is not in itself. Bearers of ideologies are parties. Did you miss the dictate of one party when any dissent was persecuted? You are for depriving the right of the people in the elections to choose one or another ideology (party) - why?
    You yourself write:
    Quote: R. Skomorokhov, A. Staver
    The future is rather comparable to the animal lifestyle, when you need to grunt at the signal of a red light

    On the one hand, you are calling for the red light switch to be in the same hands, and on the other, you are not happy with this ... You really will decide how.
    1. +11
      22 December 2017 10: 08
      Now what is in parliament? Is it not the dictatorship of one party? !!!! Do you at least follow the political life? I’ll tell you “America,” this dictate has been going on for the 6th year.
      1. +1
        22 December 2017 10: 10
        Quote: AKuzenka
        Now what is in parliament?

        But do they appoint people in parliament or do people still choose? We all chose them ourselves. We vote for the capitalist path of development. We like it when they have us in all the cracks ...
        That would have voted for the Communists - we would have a communist ideology. In the meantime, it is bourgeois capitalist.
        1. +7
          22 December 2017 10: 30
          Huh ... Can you name something good that the Communist faction in parliament has lost in this quarter century? Besides criticism of course. But the fraction is not small ... the second largest. Yes, and with the ideology of the communist today there are problems. Rather, the Social Democrats and not the Communists
          1. +4
            22 December 2017 11: 44
            It's like that. Only here, the Communists also pleased) Grudinin put forward from the Communist Party to the polls - the most clean version of those that are rumored to be a good person. It is sad that the communist. I would give him, if it were my will, to give the agricultural unit of the Government to steer, and even food safety in general. The main thing is that at the same time he should leave his ideology to himself, but simply work on conscience. It is necessary to end the practice when hucksters of people with cardboard instead of food poison. In this sense, the Government of the mice just does not catch, does not modify. Grudinin is not a talker for sure. And the work is concrete, you can do without politics.
        2. +5
          22 December 2017 10: 58
          Do you choose your bosses at work / service? It seems to me that no. So with what fright do you think you can choose a government or president? Whoever would allow this to you will be more serious than some lousy CEO.
    2. +7
      22 December 2017 10: 34
      Quote: Boris55
      Ideology is not in itself.

      Oh well ... Does the country change its ideology with the advent of a new US president? Or is Merkel the bearer of ideology? Maybe Macron?
      US Republicans and Democrats differ only in their attitude to the domestic politics of the country, but they never touch the fundamental foundations. Ideology is the foundation. And we can’t even really explain even what we are going to build ... Builders of what will turn out ...
      1. 0
        22 December 2017 15: 53
        Quote: domokl
        Ideology is the foundation. And we can’t even really explain even what we are going to build

        The men gathered and decided that they would build. You worked concept building the future. To realize their dreams, they need a people who will support them in this endeavor. To convince which you need noodles (ideology) to their ears, and since the people are different, then the noodles should be different - communist, bourgeois-capitalist, social-democratic, etc. ... But all these ideologies will never go beyond the concept.

        Ideologies are a tool for managing people in the interests of the concept. If we want to change something, we need to change the concept, the agreement on how we will live. If we are not told about this, then this does not mean that the one who started all this does not know what he is building.

        "... Ideology - This is the concept of governance, set out in a way that is understandable to the masses of the people so that it does not cause them to be rejected, much less actively targeted against it. The object of influence of ideological power is the whole society, however, with the exception of those who are themselves conceptually powerful, and therefore stand above ideological power. Ideology is needed for conceptual power in order to form a worldview of people in society corresponding to the chosen concept so that people are under its power in changing life circumstances.
        The function of ideological power - to clothe a conceptually beneficial concept in such ideological forms in which it would appear in the opinion of people to be pretty and therefore acceptable, in which the concept would not cause rejection, and even more so - targeted active opposition to the introduction of the concept into management practice up to the development and implementation into the life of an alternative concept ... "
    3. +6
      22 December 2017 12: 22
      Boris55, 09:59. The right to choose is also an interesting thing. There is corn. Poorly? No choice? What about salty popcorn and sweet popcorn? Wow, what a choice !? A bullet in the forehead-dictatorship? What about the independent choice of the method of execution? Electric chair, lethal injection, lethal gas with a pleasant aroma! Is it democracy !? Are these human rights !?
      1. +3
        22 December 2017 13: 25
        Quote: 34 region
        Boris55, 09:59. The right to choose is also an interesting thing. There is corn. Poorly? No choice? What about salty popcorn and sweet popcorn? Wow, what a choice !? A bullet in the forehead-dictatorship? What about the independent choice of the method of execution? Electric chair, lethal injection, lethal gas with a pleasant aroma! Is it democracy !? Are these human rights !?

        ... possible - with a special decree! - prescribe a rope with you to bring ... and a little bit of soap ...
        1. +3
          23 December 2017 03: 42
          Quote: CONTROL
          Quote: 34 region
          Boris55, 09:59. The right to choose is also an interesting thing. There is corn. Poorly? No choice? What about salty popcorn and sweet popcorn? Wow, what a choice !? A bullet in the forehead-dictatorship? What about the independent choice of the method of execution? Electric chair, lethal injection, lethal gas with a pleasant aroma! Is it democracy !? Are these human rights !?

          ... possible - with a special decree! - prescribe a rope with you to bring ... and a little bit of soap ...

          And pay for this "service" yourself, with the tax for receiving the "service" lol
    4. +5
      22 December 2017 13: 48
      Quote: Boris55
      On the one hand, you are calling for the red light switch to be in the same hands, and on the other, you are not happy with this ... You really will decide how.

      You are painting an abstract situation. Here, it’s not a matter of being content or not being. Let the “red light” switch be in one hand, chosen by the people, but everyone should grunt in this light: both mature boars, and old boars, and sows, and piglets, as well as geldings, mares and others that have come to the company, who have expressed a desire live in one herd ... request
      1. 0
        22 December 2017 16: 01
        Quote: Esoteric
        Let the “red light” switch be in one hand, chosen by the people,

        So it is for today - we choose the Duma, which adopts laws by which we all, including and the president and the prime minister, we live. No need to dwell on the right of the people (establishing state ideology) who switch to hand over.
    5. +1
      22 December 2017 21: 53
      A unifying and inspiring idea, of course, is needed by a people claiming to do something more than eke out the miserable existence of African blacks. The national idea should determine the general direction of the country's development, while not imposing any dogmas and doctrines on the citizens (they often turn out to be written even under the pea king for a completely different society), it should be based on folk culture and national identity. You can call it "patriotism", "nationalism", "our path", at least "the cult of a space cockroach."
  17. +6
    22 December 2017 10: 26
    I have long suspected that the States and Rasea are one country. Only in North America did the Anglo-Saxons slaughter the indigenous population, but so far they have not succeeded in the territory of Russia.
    1. +3
      22 December 2017 13: 50
      The countries are different, we live in different ways, but we adhere to one payment system ... belay
  18. +4
    22 December 2017 10: 55
    Eh, commentators, you are ours short-lived. It did not begin in 1991, but at least in 1917, or even earlier. We are used to destroying "the whole world to the ground, and then" not getting anything good. I can’t understand in any way the motives of such behavior.
    1. +4
      22 December 2017 12: 24
      Slava Myasnikov, 10:55. Just do not lie. We will destroy the whole world of violence, to the foundation, and then, we ours, we will build a new world, who was nobody will become everything!
      1. +4
        22 December 2017 13: 23
        Quote: 34 region
        We will destroy the whole world of violence, to the foundation, and then, we ours, we will build a new world, who was nobody will become everything!

        Who was “nothing” - “everything” cannot become!
        And to destroy is always easier than to build; especially if those who are "nobody" do it ...
    2. +7
      22 December 2017 13: 21
      Quote: Slava Myasnikov
      It did not begin in 1991, but at least in 1917,.

      in 1953, with the advent of "envious" and "leftist-Trotskyist" Khrushchev
    3. +1
      22 December 2017 13: 53
      Quote: Slava Myasnikov
      I can’t understand in any way the motives of such behavior.

      This is only due to the lack of a common equal right for everyone. We always have this: someone is right, someone is more to the right, and someone took to the left ... request As soon as we begin to live, from small to large, according to one law, everything will get better ...
    4. +1
      23 December 2017 00: 13
      The Russian people have nothing to do with the idea of ​​a world-wide massacre.
  19. +1
    22 December 2017 10: 58
    Just one touch to the right words: if you believe the information posted on the Internet on various completely different sites, then “for the fact that you need to go to the Olympics” are just the former Soviet athletes, “honored old people”, performing under the red flag. All act as one. Roughly the same thing is happening in other directions. What is it? They do not want to admit that they were mistaken in ruining the USSR, or vice versa, just as they want to "ruin" today's society from the inside.
    Today’s analytical articles remind me of the old Soviet television series “Experts are Investigating” about three Soviet policemen who, up to about half of the series, dragged through the idea that crime was connected with our tsarist past or sent from abroad. Then, however, they rushed to the other extreme and began to blame everything on the imperfection of human nature.
    Perhaps it’s possible to let people live, think, consume, choose, without imposing runners who mixed up mountains with tiled roofs, convict candidates for presidency, communists without party membership cards and other representatives of the flora and fauna of our country?
    1. +4
      22 December 2017 13: 57
      Well, let them give it. And to live and consume and choose, absolutely no one is against.
      Only let it be given not only to a handful of oligarchs!
    2. +4
      22 December 2017 13: 58
      Quote: 1536
      They do not want to admit that they were mistaken in ruining the USSR, or vice versa, just as they want to "ruin" today's society from the inside.

      The USSR was ruined by corrupt leaders and indifference of citizens. I will tell you more, in the army, attempts to participate in political activities and express attitude towards certain leaders were prohibited by order. Now there is a sense of guilt that we have created for our children request ... stop what we have created, then we eat ...
      1. +1
        23 December 2017 03: 50
        Quote: Esoteric
        The USSR was ruined by corrupt leaders and indifference of citizens. I will tell you more, in the army, attempts to participate in political activities and express attitude towards certain leaders were prohibited by order.

        One question. Who shot at the White House from tanks, cops or the Army?
  20. +3
    22 December 2017 11: 05
    EVERYTHING IS LOST!
    What to do? There is complete impotence in the sentences.
    It is sad when adult men rejoice at sports successes, not realizing that this is only show business and their role in this show is to go with the herd and lay out the money.
    There are a lot of problems - it always has been. And in the USSR there were no less.
    Putin held a Culture Council yesterday — identifying problems and outlining solutions.
    Yesterday, I met with businessmen, also raised problems and looked for solutions.
    Putin is working. Get connected!
    1. +6
      22 December 2017 14: 03
      Quote: Victor N
      Putin is working. Get connected!

      Just like in the good old days:
      You understand, the leader continued, “That only this way, only that way, calling a spade a spade, we will go forward side by side, and at the same time, honestly looking into each other's eyes. Well, that’s it, right now we’ll take a short break, those who wish can have a bite, right here, after the break, we will discuss the situation with lamb. I think she will share her thoughts ...
    2. +3
      22 December 2017 14: 03
      In the sense? Where to connect? What outlet? Should we give up our work and go to them for a meeting? Will they work for us?
      This endless “search for solutions” is already specifically annoying, because it either ends in zilch (at best), or they still find solutions, oh, and they find - no saboteurs and agents of the State Department are needed, as they are.
    3. +4
      22 December 2017 15: 00
      identified problems and outlined solutions.
      for 17 years, all have not identified problems and outlined solutions
    4. +3
      22 December 2017 21: 56
      How Putin solves problems we see. During his reign, 2-3 annual budgets of Russia were exported abroad. Another banker "left Russia" today. 110 billion rubles disappeared. they again let me calmly rinse off. And the Duma is all dealing with trifling issues like vests, retroreflective .nu, etc. How to make them work? Probably do not choose them.
    5. +1
      23 December 2017 03: 56
      Quote: Victor N
      Putin is working. Get connected!

      And what about his May decrees? lol Did you consult? Have you decided? Well, these decisions will be in the same place as the May decrees. wassat So why connect? To sabotage or the decisions of the "Crazy Printer" in the face of the State Duma, whose "products" Putin claims? lol
  21. +4
    22 December 2017 11: 37
    "Wrangel, Mannerheim, Nicholas II, Alexander the Third, Kolchak."
    And what does not suit these historical figures? Or is this not our story anymore?
    It may be enough to repeat mistakes already - to divide everyone into good and bad.
    1. +7
      22 December 2017 14: 05
      Just by raising these, we begin to interfere with the dirt of the rest ... It’s good to beat ancestors. Cannot answer
    2. +2
      22 December 2017 14: 09
      Quote: Resident of the Urals
      And what does not suit these historical figures? Or is this not our story anymore?

      The attitude should not be politicized ... Wrangel - Ushakov, Mannerheim - Karbyshev, Nicholas II - Ivan IV, Alexander III - Joseph Stalin, Kolchak - Zhukov ... You need to be more sensitive, "now people need to be more relaxed. And look at the questions more broadly. "
      winked
    3. +1
      22 December 2017 14: 11
      1, 2 and 5 killed many Russians. 3 profucal is not the worst country. 4 it seems nothing; the king is like a king.
    4. +4
      22 December 2017 14: 57
      "Wrangel, Mannerheim, Nicholas II, Alexander the Third, Kolchak."
      And what does not suit these historical figures?
      And that’s true, why Chikatile is not a monument, is it also history? In any case, for me Kolchak (not Khabensky) is the same maniac as Chikatilo.
  22. +3
    22 December 2017 11: 49
    The farther, the more expensive it will cost us to get out of this "GE" ...
    1. +4
      22 December 2017 14: 11
      Someone deliberately leads us into the thick of this "GE", into the depths of this same "GE", so that when we die out all the conductors who know the way back, could not return back ... belay
  23. +7
    22 December 2017 13: 13
    More and more facts that our power is not ours, but pro-Western, and hence the enormous polarization of society and the poverty of the population. We are more and more swept by a wave of Western ideology and more and more people worship it, and by splashing the USSR and planting ideals alien to us, we are losing Russia before our eyes !!!
    Only we need to understand everything - we can’t sit out under a neutral flag, without an anthem, without a flag, etc. and what we planted under the pirate flag of American superiority is the death in the future of Russia as a state !!!
    And there is no doubt that our elite, who robbed the people and the country in the year 90 and continues this robbery, still has everything at hand for the legitimization of all the stolen property; then there would be no one to answer to the specific principalities.
  24. +2
    22 December 2017 13: 30
    Quote: BecmepH
    Quote: cedar
    To begin with, the question to the authors about free payment ...
    Why did “free” working teachers and doctors get paid, As the others ?
    And the second question. Where did they get the money from? Not the Western capitalists paid them, but then who?

    Wake up, dear, and then criticize. Or, would you just check in? Go, first wanted to be in the comments?)))
    Where in the article is it written that teachers worked for free?


    Answer without this lyrics of yours and specifically ... At whose expense was the "banquet" of Soviet teachers and doctors with FREE ... education and medicine?
    1. 0
      26 December 2017 10: 15
      Quote: cedar
      At whose expense was the "banquet" of Soviet teachers and doctors with free ... education and medicine?

      Fabulous d ... First: right - noсpaid. Secondly, education was free (for this, students did not pay - this is an explanation for the foolish) and medicine (patients did not pay for its services - for the same ones), and not the work of teachers and doctors. The state paid for everything, because he needed healthy, smart people. Apparently, present-day Russia as a state needs a sick herd.
  25. +3
    22 December 2017 13: 32
    For me, the situation in the country looks like this: power from the 80s in the hands of an organized criminal group consisting of liberal thieves. And there are very big suspicions that its president is at the head. I would like him to dispel my suspicions after the spring elections.
    Unfortunately, there is no doubt that he will be re-elected. I myself will vote for a candidate from the Communist Party, I hope that this will not be Zyuganov, but the chances of a candidate from the Communist Party winning (I would like a single candidate from all patriotic forces, it would be time to unite) is still small. But by voting with all the people, we will surely win. An example is Catalonia.
    1. +3
      22 December 2017 14: 07
      am Not trying to win decided to give up?
      1. +5
        22 December 2017 21: 58
        Finally made the right decision, it seems like Grudinin. He is an intelligent man and young. More people will vote for him. And he manages, and this is needed in power.
    2. +4
      22 December 2017 14: 44
      It will not be Zyuganov, but rather Grudinin. That’s good.
  26. +2
    22 December 2017 13: 35
    The leadership of each state serves those who set it. Do not mention this election, this democratic pornography. All the dark affairs began where the elections came to the fore. And the more they shout about them, the more lies will be based on them.
    So, to whom you serve, you are friends with that. In Soviet times, power passed from cynical naturalism in the name of an idea to mimicry under an idea, but the trend was set by society. Now the authorities do not need to adjust. It is only necessary with fanfare to hold the next Super Show. Relax and have fun. Herzen is still sleeping.
    1. +1
      22 December 2017 21: 58
      Did not try to hang yourself?
  27. +12
    22 December 2017 13: 35
    Putin and his team openly and purposefully trash Russia
    there aren’t even any questions ..


    1. 0
      24 December 2017 15: 25
      About the "welfare" is he probably his own and friends, the oligarchs had in mind .... negative
  28. +2
    22 December 2017 14: 22
    I agree with everything except the discussions about Nicholas II and other leaders of that period, in general about the monarchy. Yes, it is precisely that in tsarist Russia everything was better than in the USSR - both calmly and not hungry, no matter what the ideologists of communism say. Workers, for example, could support a family of 12 people and for this they didn’t have to go to work abroad, the wages of workers in America and Russia were comparable, they didn’t even differ. For more than 200 years, the Russian ruble has been one of the hardest world currencies. If they had not destroyed the state, then gradually, developing capitalism, they would have been one of the first places in the world in terms of welfare. And if Orthodoxy had not been destroyed, then the national idea would have been (the Russians always went the wall for faith, the tsar and the fatherland, even if there are no more kings, but the Motherland and Faith would remain) and the spirituality of society would be both patriotism and moral morality, and state popular projects, and philanthropists, etc., not to mention a decent culture and normal education.
    1. +6
      22 December 2017 14: 52
      than in the USSR - both calmly and not hungry
      why are you lying?
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    2. +4
      22 December 2017 16: 27
      I would like to ask if you lived at that time. According to the stories of my grandfathers and grandmothers (peasants) they saw meat only on patronal holidays, and sweets - only on Christmas Eve. Fantasies generated by pseudo-historical series are a poor criterion for evaluating historical figures.
    3. +7
      22 December 2017 16: 54
      This is another tale for the followers of monarchism. The capitalists before the war and during the 1st MV, got so much that they and Nicholas 2 became unnecessary. People were exploited like cattle, including children for 12-16 hours at a meager salary.
      The church is generally a separate issue.
    4. 0
      22 December 2017 21: 25
      These changes, empire-republic-union-federation, knocked Russia off its vector of development: we build either a circus, now a mental hospital, then a circus again, and as a result we break everything we managed to do and organize a cemetery.
    5. +1
      22 December 2017 22: 00
      Wrong books you read.
    6. +1
      23 December 2017 11: 14
      and not hungry

      Ohhhh - we were starving with the USSR, starving. As I recall the bread of 16 kopecks, so startled. Moreover, taking into account the fact that he was brought to the house in a very nibbled form (from hunger!).
      Where are you going from - bulkhrusty.
      1. +1
        24 December 2017 15: 26
        Lord, this is an ordinary housewife. Revised "Admirals", "Sunstrokes" and other crunchy films.
  29. +5
    22 December 2017 14: 30
    Quote: populist
    Finches
    One can argue with something, something is reflected true ..

    There is nothing to argue about. Everything is reflected correctly! True, both a statement of the situation and a sad prospect for the future. Only a change of power to a government of popular trust can change the situation and stop sliding into the abyss.

    That's right, that's why we all go together to vote for Grudinin
  30. 0
    22 December 2017 14: 35
    To understand what is happening to us, around us, with Russia, around Russia and the world - all this is described in the texts of the Holy Scripture of the Bible. The 5th chapter of the revelation talks about the secret of a book sealed with seven seals, which puts it in its own everything that happens in the world is located. Having discovered this secret, people will answer the question of what is the truth. Having recognized the truth, people will automatically find a spiritual bond. And so, as humanity entered the era of revelation, it's time to discover the secret of the universe, the origin of man, the development of mankind and answer when asked who Christ is, what Calvary is, and what Russia, the coat of arms, the flag and the national anthem of Russia have to do with all of this, why the world community is spreading rot on Russia and the Russians.
    1. 0
      26 December 2017 10: 21
      Again ... Yes, where are you from, hit with a bible by the Bible, you climb ... Yes, the alternatives of faith are much more than you. They even give reasons.
  31. +4
    22 December 2017 14: 50
    I have not read the comments right away. I agree with everything said in the article. Because what happens is more important than tanks and aircraft carriers. Once we destroyed us not to the end, but without a single shot, the enemies decided to repeat. And we again agree to finally turn into the servants of the oligarchs.
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  33. +4
    22 December 2017 14: 59
    Any competitions or Olympic games, all the same remain only games and, accordingly, the rules developed for them by which they are held. Or, in other words, a consequence of those basic principles of existence and development, which, already, are guided by certain states in internal life and, as it has now become clear, in international relations, which, in turn, are imposed on us and the entire world community from the outside, i.e. "Washington Regional Committee." Therefore, we need to change the basic foundations and principles of existence, focusing on the principles of the Soviet period, but in the application and in accordance with the requirements of today, taking into account the new technological structure.
  34. 0
    22 December 2017 15: 00
    Quote: Gardamir
    than in the USSR - both calmly and not hungry
    why are you lying?

    I do not read false sources, like some, this information is first hand - from communication with many people. It is clear that if there was a crop failure, then there was a famine, and if there was a war, then there were losses, but it will be so now. But if there were no such reasons, then everything was quite decent for those times and in comparison with other countries. And now we are almost outsiders.
    1. +2
      22 December 2017 22: 02
      I do not read false sources, like some, this information is first hand - from communication with many people.

      Dear, you are a horny woman.
    2. +1
      24 December 2017 15: 27
      Quote: lady.endzhi
      first-hand
      Shaw, really talked with the inhabitants of tsarist Russia?
    3. 0
      26 December 2017 10: 23
      Odaaako, not only are you a long-liver, but also know how to use a computer?
  35. 0
    22 December 2017 15: 39
    Quote: stalkerwalker
    Quote: romey
    From a purely everyday point of view, you are absolutely right, but alas, unfortunately, it was during the late Khrushchev and Brezhnev that many objective reasons for the collapse of the USSR, such as an oil needle, ideological dogma, vicious personnel policy, etc., ripened, and this should also be remembered take account of.

    Quote: groks
    But it’s big and consists of everyday trifles.

    Life does not stand still. “You can’t enter the same river twice ...” All the best of the times of the USSR was combined with inevitable negative aspects, such as “egalitarianism” - both with responsibility before the law, combined with “telephone law”, and with equalized wages approved by the Ministry labor.
    The main thing here is not to jump from one extreme to another. The dashing 90 e threw us off the road of stable and calm development. The mistakes made and miscalculations should be analyzed with a view to both correcting them and avoiding them in the future.
    There is no point in reinventing bicycles. But you should not blindly copy both American, European and Chinese models.

    A remark about "telephone law" - nothing has changed, only it is still "backed up" by money. wink
    1. +2
      22 December 2017 22: 04
      Life does not stand still. “You can’t enter the same river twice ...” All the best of the times of the USSR was combined with inevitable negative aspects, such as “egalitarianism” - both with responsibility before the law, combined with “telephone law”, and with equalized wages approved by the Ministry labor.

      It is necessary to take the best, rejecting the bad, taking into account the thieves' power spent in the past three years of the triumph of power.
      And egalitarianism began with Khrushchev.
  36. +3
    22 December 2017 16: 24
    The main problem of our life is lack of spirituality. The development of spirituality is necessary. Formation on this path HUMAN. Not a consumer, but a human creator. Man must create the conditions of his being. It is not necessary to reduce this process to the preparation of a technician, locksmith, turner, engineer, etc. manufacturer. It is necessary to develop spirituality as a condition for the creation of the human in man. And now spirituality is being replaced by clericalism Christian, Islamic, Jewish, totalitarian-sectarian. You need to start with the definition of ideology. In the name of what do we live? One should not be surprised now at the appearance of Mary Baghdasaryan, police colonel Zakharchenko and others like them. This is the product of our "ideology" of Westernism, roughly speaking of consumerism. Until the tops understand the simple idea that there can be no Russia without spirituality of a person. And any liberal or nationalized economy based on the Soviet model there will not solve anything. There will be no MAN - the economy will serve the oligarch or bureaucrat. Therefore, the central link is education and culture. Here the secret of the creation of the Human Creator is hidden.
  37. +4
    22 December 2017 16: 48
    Not to annoy the “partners,” taking wait-and-see tactics, this is the principled position of both Putin and the entire Medvedev government, which in turn actually hires ministers to work with them. The style of work of Stalin delving into the critical details of any issue is unacceptable or excessive for them. Each of them is sure that the invisible hand of the market, this magic wand of our time, protects the state from troubles and shocks regardless of anything. The myths of the 90s are firmly seated in the heads of current managers and so far nothing has convinced them of this. Why be surprised? All of the above in the article is only a consequence.
  38. 0
    22 December 2017 19: 23
    I don’t even know how it relates to the authors, but a lot of the article is written correctly, but it's all about the past. Moreover, it is very controversial conclusions about the world's best education system, if you look at the contribution to world science and the inventions made, the number of Nobel laureates, then somehow we do not get into the best in the world. Again, the Unified State Exam, which takes one day in a 10-year school system, hinders all modern education. With culture, I agree with the authors - censorship is needed at the Soviet level, failure has come up with sports, but what conclusion should be drawn? It is necessary to separate sports from business, revive amateur sports and prohibit professional athletes from participating in the Olympic movement, unfortunately we are unlikely to be supported in this endeavor. "Patriotism, honor, kindness, the ability to protect the weak and other" obsolete moral categories "of the Soviet legacy have already outlived themselves." - No, here I strongly disagree with the authors, they do not own the situation and there are many examples of this. I’ll quote Zyablicev, a blogger, “As wisely and courageously wrote to all of us from the stuffy compartment of the flooded Kursk submarine, Captain Kolesnikov:“ No need to despair! ”, Then we will succeed!” I completely agree with this !.
    1. +4
      22 December 2017 22: 08
      As for Soviet education - it really was the best in the world, like education for the people as a whole. Plus - education for talented children in special schools.
      As for the Nobel - so who are the judges.
    2. 0
      26 December 2017 10: 28
      Quote: turbris
      Again, the Unified State Exam, which takes one day in a 10-year school system, hinders all modern education.

      Well, the Nobel Prize has become politicized long ago, like so much more. Yes, and really breakthrough (at their time) discoveries were classified. And the exam takes not 1 day, but at least 2 academic years of training (read - coaching). Rather, even all 6-7 years. By the way, a long time ago, 11-year-old training.
  39. 0
    22 December 2017 19: 31
    A very good article. There are moments in which, it seems to me, the requirement "see the root" is not met. To illustrate, I’ll try to post my article “If you look from the side”, but if you don’t miss it, see for yourself. It all started much earlier and much more serious.
  40. +5
    22 December 2017 19: 53
    By the way, they say that the State Department and the fifth column are interfering with the president. At the same time, they say that the Communists are not doing anything. But here is an example
    The Savyolovsky court of Moscow refused to accept the lawsuit of the State Duma deputy from the Communist Party Valery Rashkin to the deputy chairman of the Government of the Russian Federation on sports, tourism and youth policy Vitaly Mutko.

    Recall that the communist asked the Savyolovsky District Court of Moscow to oblige Mutko to apologize to all Russian citizens for not allowing the team to the 2018 Olympics. Valery Rashkin also demanded his resignation. The court refused to accept the lawsuit and explained this by the fact that the consideration of the issue of non-compliance with the position held by the government’s deputy chairman, as well as the issue of improper performance of duties and resignation is the responsibility of the President of Russia.

    As regards the apology, the court determined that this demand was stated by Rashkin “in defense of the rights, freedoms and legitimate interests of third parties, while such a right was not granted to the plaintiff last”. Thus, the court virtually expelled Rashkin and his voters from among Russian citizens.

    Rashkin did not agree with this definition and has already filed a complaint with the appeal court of the Moscow City Court. The Communist considers his demand for the resignation of an official to be his constitutional right.
    1. +1
      24 December 2017 15: 30
      Quote: Gardamir
      in defense of the rights, freedoms and legitimate interests of third parties, while such a right was not granted to the plaintiff last
      No other than the Communists work for the CIA. I knew it. God, deception is all around. Save us the great Putin from the machinations of the evil State Department! lol
  41. +1
    22 December 2017 21: 04
    There is no government that pursues its policy without social support. So, in Russia there are forces and significant layers and groups of citizens who share this course, are ready to choose / support the conductors of this course.
    1. +2
      22 December 2017 22: 02
      According to opinion polls. then our people are a masochist. they hang new and new yokes on his neck. and he gives ratings
    2. +3
      22 December 2017 22: 12
      This "power" - cowards and indifferent to the fate of the country and their grandchildren. Turnout at the elections, about which they insist with enviable persistence (I assure you, they are lying impudently!) That go not go - there won’t be any sense, yelling about the indifference of our people to their fate. Here the Catalans showed us an example of what an active person can do when everyone wants to.
      And also - about 10-15 percent of the country's inhabitants are against us (the hand does not rise to call them citizens). These are thieves-oligarchs, thieves-officials, a creative, in quotation marks “gang from culture and a large layer of diverse attendants who will not spare their belly so that everything goes on.
      1. +8
        22 December 2017 22: 35
        Quote: NordUral
        Here the Catalans showed us an example of what an active person can do when everyone wants to

        ABOUT! Right!
        They had a mess there, some kind of nasis ... but how did it end, do not remind me? I forgot request
  42. +3
    22 December 2017 22: 44
    Quote: NordUral
    And also - about 10-15 percent of the country's inhabitants are against us (the hand does not rise to call them citizens). These are thieves-oligarchs, thieves-officials, a creative, in quotation marks “gang from culture and a large layer of diverse attendants who will not spare their belly so that everything goes on.

    Medvedevites fiddled in, and Putiners disguise them - and believe that they succeed. Of course, they will not give up power in March 2018, either peacefully or militarily (Putin, however, relies on his scouts), but we, the people, are in force to force Putin to squeeze Medvedevites-Shuvalovites. We must vote for Grudinin and demand that Medvedev be removed from the prime ministers, along with his comprador half of the government.
    1. +5
      22 December 2017 23: 02
      Quote: Mikhail Zubkov
      Medvedevites fiddled in, and Putiners disguise them - and believe that they succeed.

      Comrade, these are two heads of the same hydra.
      Quote: Mikhail Zubkov
      they will not give up power, neither peacefully, nor military

      they’ll give them guarantees of immunity, because sooner or later their time will pass and, like Yanuk’s, they can’t give a ride, and there you can’t spit on three measures of social protection.
      Quote: Mikhail Zubkov
      but to force Putiners to squeeze Medvedevites-Shuvalovites we, the people, are in force. We must vote for Grudinin

      Quote: Mikhail Zubkov
      but to force Putiners to squeeze Medvedevites-Shuvalovites we, the people, are in force. We must vote for Grudinin

      I agree.
  43. +1
    23 December 2017 01: 54
    Krabik,
    You are confusing two things, the Marie Talk channel is quite decent and the girl is competent and talented (look at the channel more closely), and the tricks of young perverts are ......., I hope you understand me. Yes
  44. +1
    23 December 2017 02: 30
    Krabik,
    Quote: Krabik
    Yesterday I watched the video, as one guy for likes shot himself on the camera, there was a scream%)
    I can throw a video so that you too rejoice at the opinion of young people ...

    So this is freedom from ideology, which was prescribed to us in Article 13 of the RF Health Code! Everyone kills himself voluntarily and now try to blame the state for violence against the “personality”!) All by yourself - the freedom to choose how to kill yourself, with one shot or slowly watching how your life is formatted into a vacuum shell of a herd grunting and fattening on chemical slops.
    This too, for example: "
    SFU professor Yuri Yuzyuk committed suicide in Rostov-on-Don
    "
    Read about the causes of suicide.
  45. 0
    23 December 2017 02: 34
    The Communists have two main problems: the first is the lack of all honor, intelligence and conscience (they cannot even repent for the collapse of the USSR in the 90s and for the massacre that followed, the USSR themselves were killed, the hypocritical cowardly rats, having initially all power in country), the absence of any hints of a healthy reflection; and the second is their rat bloodthirstiness. They crave the blood of those they hate.

    These are all the main signs of the absence of any chances for the success of the Communist Party. The rats that have shown themselves in history as rats that have destroyed the USSR will not be allowed into power by the people of Russia again. People over the past hundred years have become much smarter in this regard. People understand very well that rats kill everyone: at first those who are hated the most are the authorities, then they start to kill ordinary people and they are stopped only by the threat of their own lives, there are no internal barriers to civil massacre, such a tribe .. And then these rats destroy to the roots the whole country, without any pity. This is the result of their reign in the USSR. People automatically reject hate rats that have no mind, no honor, no conscience ....
    1. 0
      24 December 2017 15: 33
      Lord, well, straight Novodvorskaya in person. Resurrection is not otherwise. And again he blames the Communists for all mortal sins.
  46. +3
    23 December 2017 03: 41
    Every time I read such articles, I want to ask, who are you? Do you live in another country?
    There is a position to scold, scold, scold. This is basically the way the Communist Party does. And there is a position - to live as it is right. Education is bad - make it good. That's how Fursov Andrey Ilyich, a wonderful Russian scientist, a terrific lecturer, teacher comes in. And he tells everyone everywhere, study children, focus on 4 languages, 4 specialties. Adult - buy good textbooks, do not throw away old ones! And there are also those who defend the old textbooks, are looking for sponsors for their reissue. In mathematics, Kiselev's textbooks. Remove Elkonin primers from school. Return to the old Soviet primers.
    An article was published in this community stating that there is not enough shift in military science. Why not take patronage over the school? They organize an elective, because it used to be. But why do they need this headache. It's easier to moan.
    The golden age of Russian literature is the 19th century. Soviet education is the restored classical tsarist era. BUT FOR EVERYONE. That's the main thing. And thugs grew up among us.
    Putin is moving in the right direction. But he is moving very slowly. It is necessary to support him. He should not be alone.
    1. +2
      23 December 2017 10: 45
      Quote: Galina Artamonova
      Every time I read such articles, I want to ask, who are you? Do you live in another country?

      Etta such "advisers" ... wassat
      How to work - so hands grow from the back seat. But give advice right and left - right there ...
    2. 0
      24 December 2017 15: 38
      Quote: Galina Artamonova
      And there is a position - to live as it is right. Education is bad - make it good.

      Quote: Galina Artamonova
      Learn for children, focus on 4 languages, 4 specialties. Adult - buy good textbooks, do not throw away old ones!

      Quote: Galina Artamonova
      Return to the old Soviet primers.

      All this is a movement "not thanks, but contrary to", i.e. in fact, counteraction to the current system in Russia. Which, on the contrary, in every possible way squeezes out all that is good that remains of the Soviet Union. The system was built in the 90s and is actively developing under Putin.
      Quote: Galina Artamonova
      Putin is acting in the right direction.
      You write that you need to "live right" and then write about the right Putin? Do not be friends with logic at all?
  47. 0
    23 December 2017 09: 50
    The hour of reckoning is near! Yours is no longer dancing!
  48. +1
    23 December 2017 12: 01
    Quote: Olgovich
    And the country has an idea and it is being promoted at all levels: “We have no and cannot have any other unifying idea, except patriotism. We will not come up with any other idea, and we don’t have to come up with”
    V.V. Putin And he's 100% right

    -------------------------------------------------
    There is no such idea as "patriotism." Each one is different, this "patriotism". And “patriotism” is especially strong among those who have in their pocket citizenship of Israel, Switzerland, Austria, Great Britain and the USA, in addition to Russian. There is an idea of ​​an equal for all and fair for all device world.
  49. 0
    23 December 2017 12: 05
    Quote: Galina Artamonova
    Every time I read such articles, I want to ask, who are you? Do you live in another country?
    There is a position - scold, scold, scold

    ----------------------------------------
    Of course, we live in some other country. I had no theater in my city, there were two cinemas and they reprofiled. And in Putin’s country, they’ll make garbage from the Bolshoi Theater. So how would you get from your company town to the Bolshoi Theater, get half a billion state money for performances and make a real good performance? Do not tell me?
  50. 0
    23 December 2017 13: 50
    They agreed so much that their love for the Motherland (patriotism) is different for them. Love is either there or it is not. Who loved - knows. Whoever engaged in perversions on the topic of “love”, not knowing what it was, confusing pornography with love or BDSM with love, having a background of psychological trauma from hatred, let’s say - this is completely different. That’s because the Communists and liberals have a problem, obsessed with hatred for their fellow tribesmen with a different faith than theirs ... They have a “love” that is strange, no pain anywhere, often it’s a perversion on the topic of BDSM, and not love, hence there are so many meanings of what they don’t know in the word "love" ... Those who loved know very well that there is only one meaning. Patriotism is patriotism, without any division into white and red, when you perceive everyone as the Whole, as One, as Homeland. With hatred, the meaning of "love" does not intersect in any form ...

    Hatred is actually a litmus test ...
    The consciousness of a rat, the consciousness of looking at the world, at its homeland at the crosshairs, is a sick consciousness. This is a spiritual, not mental illness, although sometimes they intersect ...
    1. +1
      23 December 2017 15: 31
      askme - I agree, because in their hatred of the oligarchs and those in power, some people forget about their homeland altogether and their komenty repeat Western Russophobic propaganda one-on-one. You can criticize the authorities, oligarchs, individuals - but not the country as a whole, justifying the sudden "love for the people." This is especially true of emigrants who from another country criticize their homeland, justifying their move. Moved, settled down, are you better there?
      Well, live on health - but about the homeland or good, or nothing.
  51. 0
    23 December 2017 15: 32
    Without truth there is no reign.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YzZ-aDFtZyU
    1. 0
      23 December 2017 17: 47
      That's it.
  52. +1
    24 December 2017 08: 19
    EVERYTHING is stated correctly. There is a lot more that can be added and expanded upon, but I understand that the format is limited. Nevertheless, the main thing has been said. Comments complement the article.
    On my own behalf I would like to add about the elections. Don’t ask me where I know this from (people say...) but nevertheless, in May 2000, Putin, with 53% of the vote, became president. According to my information, he received 5,3%... By simply rearranging the comma, they say that Yeltsin himself rearranged it. In the last elections (since 2012), 17% (with kopecks) voted for him, they wrote - 63,6% - progress is evident. After the 2000 elections, I could not find that “half” of those who voted for GDP. It would seem that every second person should “shout” that his candidate won. But no, I saw only bewilderment. After the 2012 vote, Putin himself called Churov either a “wizard” or a “wizard.”
    The one who “counts” wins... And of course, whoever pays orders the “NUMBER”, and who pays and how?
    The income statement of the head of the Central Election Commission Ella Pamfilova for 2016 indicates the amount of 30 rubles - 657 million rubles per month.
    And Panfilov will work these “grandmas” to the fullest, I have no doubt.
    1. +2
      24 December 2017 15: 44
      Right now, comrades.... uh... gentlemen Zyablintsev and Golovan Jack will come and clearly explain that in fact all conscious citizens of Russia voted FOR Putin, and whoever did not vote is generally a traitor and a CIA agent. And in general, Putin is the best thing that has happened to Russia since the times of Stalin... Even since the times of Alexander III... But what is it, since the times of the Prophetic Oleg.
      1. +9
        24 December 2017 16: 21
        Quote: Greenwood
        Comrades will come right now... uh... gentlemen Zyablintsev and Golovan Jack and will explain clearly

        It’s called “don’t forget the devil, he won’t appear” (c) I don’t remember who.
        What, exactly, is there to explain? You laid everything out there so beautifully, you can just admire it laughing
        But seriously, I somehow really don’t believe in such large-scale postscripts in the elections, where everything is signed, under the passport and under the camera... and the controllers of darkness.
        Quote: Stin U
        After the 2000 elections, I couldn’t find that “half” of those who voted for GDP

        But I found it... so what?
        Quote: Greenwood
        Putin is the best...

        ... from what is available. At least he's taxiing. And it seems to me, in the right direction.
        IMHO, I repeat. I’m not going to prove anything to anyone - I’m never going to No.
        1. 0
          25 December 2017 12: 31
          And why did you find it there?
          Half the country was shouting in 2000 - “Putin is our President!”
          Dig deeper - whoa from poutine?
          Where have you seen a (lieutenant colonel) security officer just like that - “quit the game.” But, moreover, he became a contempt?
          TOTAL BULLSHIT!!!! Moreover... they never left the KGB - only for retirement...
        2. 0
          25 December 2017 12: 33
          This is not a “civilian” in the rear - he was handing out foot wraps...
          Turn on your BRAIN!
  53. 0
    24 December 2017 15: 42
    “Some of the same people calmly look at the Olympic humiliation under the white flag. They express understanding and support. And these are other Russians, from another Russia.” - only we are the majority, look at the polls. And don't be afraid to say that the fish's head is completely rotten.
  54. 0
    24 December 2017 19: 19
    Quote: Stin U
    Don’t ask me where I know this from (people say...) but nevertheless

    Do you even understand that by writing this nonsense about elections you are undermining people’s faith in fair elections, and therefore in the Constitution, and therefore in the country as a whole? You see! This means you are purposefully working to undermine the constitutional order, and therefore the collapse of Russia, therefore you are a representative of the “fifth column” - why expose yourself?
    1. +8
      24 December 2017 22: 26
      Quote: turbris
      Do you even understand...

      Feed the troll. From hand, practically.
    2. 0
      25 December 2017 13: 07
      Thank you for your response. Really? Thank you.
      The point is that I cannot undermine faith, no matter what faith it is.
      I gave you a topic, “food for thought,” that is, TURN ON your brains. And read my “comment” in full.
      Where do you see the constitution? She is NOT. Who observes it? Article 3, who complies with it. They can change it, but not the people. Putin, instead of 4, determined for himself - 6 years of RULE (!!!), He asked the people. Did he at least once ask - what do the People want?
      We, that we wanted to give the wealth of our Country to THIEVES? After all, they are not just stealing mineral resources, but with the connivance of “Putin-med,” they are also robbing US - by constantly raising tariffs, by installing METERS.
  55. +1
    24 December 2017 21: 09
    Point one. Nothing is free - free education, medicine - this is a lie of the communists in order not to pay salaries, any “free” service is actually paid for by the labor of the country’s citizens.
    Point culture: Well, of course, according to the author, there should only be Soviet culture = communist propaganda in the country.
    Point three: Having come to power, the Communists did not hesitate to rewrite history; there is no point in blaming the mirror if the face is crooked.
    Point four (the most painful one): he has no place on the list - and he doesn’t care about the “Olympics”.
    1. +9
      24 December 2017 22: 28
      Quote: KaPToC
      Point one... Point four...

      The funny thing is that, despite the fact that everything you wrote is true, the local people (the masses, so to speak) will not accept it.
      Plus, I'm joining good
      1. +1
        24 December 2017 22: 32
        Quote: Golovan Jack
        The local people (the masses, so to speak) will not accept this.

        The fight is not for the sake of glory - ...................................................
        1. +8
          24 December 2017 22: 39
          Quote: KaPToC
          The fight is not for glory - ..

          With all due respect - well, what kind of “fight” is this?
          So, small get-togethers...
          Personally, I come here to have fun. In my free time from work and the dog.
          It can be extremely fun to sometimes bounce your face on the floor for a couple of times... headless turbo patriots laughing
          And they are here, like ducks in a nature reserve. And most are completely unafraid belay
          1. +1
            24 December 2017 22: 48
            Quote: Golovan Jack
            With all due respect - well, what kind of “fight” is this?
            So, small get-togethers...

            "Fight" is not the key word in this phrase.
            Quote: Golovan Jack
            It’s extremely fun sometimes to push a couple of... headless turbo-patriots with their faces on the floor

            Yes, in defending their views, people forget about common sense.
    2. 0
      25 December 2017 11: 08
      “point one,” you write, “in order not to pay wages,” let me remind you that the minimum wage in 1985 was 70 rubles. and they didn’t take taxes from it (and at those prices that’s 1000 liters of gasoline, a TON!). Personally, at that time I had 10 re. on average, per day - 220, 240 rubles per month, 5 rubles. for electricity (2 kopecks per kilowatt), 5 rubles for an apartment (56 sq. m., 10 sq. m. kitchen), 2 rubles for a telephone, 50 rubles for a “single” travel card in Moscow per month. CONTINUE? (yes - 6 rubles per month in kindergarten for my son). Do you, my dear, know how much milkmaids received on state and collective farms? How much did a MINER get?, a tractor driver, a bus driver (12 kopecks for travel)...
      Point two - name me a film with “propaganda” of the CPSU. Don't be shy... Maybe "The Diamond Arm"? Or maybe "Pirates of the 20th Century" is propaganda? Name it?
      Point three - The Communists did not “take power”, but RAISED it and took RESPONSIBILITY (!!!). If you don’t know, I’ll tell you - it was they who raised Higher Education, or rather created it, before them they went “over the hill” to study. No Western state has known such a rise in Academic Education(!). Even Lord Winston Churchill, of the Marlborough family, admitted this. In 1957, 12 years after the TERRIBLE WAR - SPACE. Cambridge and others like them could not do this.
      Can you guess what MEANS were needed then? And at this time, RENOVATION began - improving living conditions throughout the WHOLE Country, and not just in Moscow, as it is today.
      Point four - it’s time to stop with the “Olympic relay”, I wrote about this even before Sochi - SUMMER GAMES UNDER MOUNT OLYMPUS, in Greece. Winter ones, nearby - in the Alps, or here in Yakutia. The main thing is that “once and for all” then politics will leave sports by 50 percent...
      1. 0
        25 December 2017 18: 56
        Quote: Stin U
        (and at those prices, 1000 liters of gasoline is a TON!

        The car cost a hundred salaries, and now it costs ten salaries. But in parrots I am much longer.
        Quote: Stin U
        Point two - name me a film with “propaganda” of the CPSU. Don't be shy... Maybe "The Diamond Arm"? Or maybe "Pirates of the 20th Century" is propaganda? Name it?

        It’s easier to name films where there was no Soviet propaganda; in fact, you named them all.
        Quote: Stin U
        Point three - The Communists did not “take power”, but RISE

        What difference does it make how they got power, that’s not what we’re talking about? The question is that they immediately began to rewrite history.
        Quote: Stin U
        SUMMER GAMES UNDER MOUNT OLYMPUS

        These sports competitions are no longer Olympic.
      2. 0
        26 December 2017 22: 36
        Stop whining already...
    3. 0
      25 December 2017 21: 51
      "point one", You write - “in order not to pay wages,” let me remind you that the minimum wage in 1985 was 70 rubles. and they didn’t take taxes from it (and at those prices that’s 1000 liters of gasoline, a TON!). Personally, at that time I had 10 re. on average, per day. That is, 220 - 240 rubles per month, 5 rubles. for light (2 kopecks per kilowatt), 5 rubles. for an apartment (56 sq. m., 10 sq. m. kitchen, separate bathroom), 2 rubles for a telephone, 50 rubles for a “single” Moscow travel pass for a month. CONTINUE? (yes - 6 rubles per month in kindergarten for my son). Moreover, the CHEESE was not made from palm oil, and the milk was MILK!
      Do you, my dear, know how much milkmaids received on state and collective farms? (with the cost of milk being 32 kopecks per liter. How much did a MINER get?, a tractor driver, a bus driver (5 kopecks for travel)...
      Point two - name me a film with “propaganda” of the CPSU. Don't be shy... Maybe "The Diamond Arm"? Or maybe "Pirates of the 20th Century" is propaganda? Name it?
      Point three - The communists did not “take power”, but RAISED it and took RESPONSIBILITY (!!!). If you don’t know, I’ll tell you - it was they who raised Higher Education, or rather created it, before them they went “over the hill” to study. No Western state has known such a rise in Academic Education(!). Even Lord Winston Churchill, of the Marlborough family, admitted this. In 1957, 12 years after the TERRIBLE WAR - SPACE. Cambridge and others like them could not do this.
      Can you guess what MEANS were needed then? And at this time, RENOVATION began - improving living conditions throughout the WHOLE Country, and not just in Moscow, as it is today.
      Point four - it’s time to stop with the “Olympic relay”, I wrote about this even before Sochi - SUMMER GAMES UNDER MOUNT OLYMPUS, in Greece. Winter ones, nearby - in the Alps, or here in Yakutia. The main thing is that “once and for all” then politics will leave sports by 90 percent...
      Sincerely.
      1. 0
        25 December 2017 22: 27
        Quote: Stin U
        Sincerely.

        Where is the respect here? You stupidly repeated your previous post, but I already answered it!
  56. 0
    25 December 2017 04: 00
    Everything in the article is written correctly. And everything needs to start with the Constitution. We need another one and not one written under the dictation of the US State Department.
  57. 0
    26 December 2017 22: 14
    There are a lot of emotions in the article, as one colleague said: porridge, honey, but also bees
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