Source: Admiral Kuznetsov will be repaired and modernized according to the reduced program

The repair contract with the modernization of the aircraft-carrying cruiser Admiral Kuznetsov is scheduled for three years and will be signed between the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation and the United Shipbuilding Corporation in the first quarter of 2018. This was reported TASS source in the Russian military-industrial complex.

In the first quarter of next year, a three-year contract will be signed, and the 35 th shipyard in Roslyakov near Murmansk will immediately begin work on the aircraft carrier

- Said the source agency. TASS does not have official confirmation of this information.

According to the source, now "the development of a shortened technical project for repairs is being completed with the modernization of the ship and the preparation of calculation and calculation materials to determine the price of forthcoming works."

The interviewee said that the modernization of "Kuznetsova" will not be as deep as planned.

As a result, the ship will have the opportunity to make several long-distance hikes with the obligatory inter-trip repairs, after which it will have to undergo a major overhaul again.

- he said. Earlier, the general director of the Nevsky PKB, Sergei Vlasov, said that at Kuznetsov it would be completely renovated without modernization. He indicated then that only certain types of equipment would be replaced.

The source added that the repair of "Kuznetsova" was planned to begin at the 35-m ship repair plant in September, but prevented the lack of funding. With the inclusion of work on the ship in the new state armaments program for 2018-2027 years, this problem has been solved.

Before reducing the technical task for repairs, as another source in the military-industrial complex reported earlier, it was planned to replace the Granit missile complex with Caliber-NK on the aircraft carrier, repair the entire electromechanical part, including the main power plant, including replacing those who arrived in the unsuitability of boilers, to modernize the runway complex, primarily to improve the flight safety of the deck aviation. Also, the ship was supposed to change the electronic systems and ship aerofinisher.

What positions remained in the reduced repair project and how much it can cost, could not be specified.

Comments

[Bourbon]

Well, now it starts about a suitcase without a handle ... a trough .... an attack weapon ..... an airfield against the Papuans .... we are a land power ...... I hope common sense will be higher ... There should be deck aviation! ! and multiply multiply!

[CAPTIVE]

Quote: Burbon

Deck Aviation to be !! and multiply multiply!

Everything will be, but until Russia pulls such expensive projects ..
Well, the old man “Kuzya” will still serve the good of Russia, I’m sure of it .. A beautiful ship, nevertheless, grace is in it, although it’s already ancient

[Rurikovich]

Quote: captive

Everything will be, but until Russia pulls such expensive projects ..

Because Russia is being dragged to the bottom by its oligarchs and capitalism, imposed by interested individuals. While 1% of the population exploits "privatized" bowels, the remaining 99% will be blamed by the government ....

[Genry]

You are almost right. But almost does not count.

The video deals with the need for a referendum to amend the Constitution. But a public opinion poll showed that the referendum would fail, because the people do not care much, they are happy with their current existence and no one wants to figure out what is wrong with the Constitution.

[turbris]

Genry - actually we are talking about an aircraft carrier, and what are you talking about? Do you think that on any topic you can sculpt the same thing? Well, skip at least one topic without changing the Constitution.

[Genry]

Quote: turbris

Do you think that on any topic you can sculpt the same thing? Well, skip at least one topic without changing the Constitution.

So dozens of comments whine that in Russia everything is crap - you can, but once how to stop this disgrace - you can not?

[w70]

Old Proverb - The tongue weave is not a broom vengeance

[Krabik]

The ship is good, if anything can be made of it an underwater museum for scuba divers%)

[Lavrenti Pavlovich]

So far, we will have such a liberal government. One aircraft carrier is going to be repaired for three years, which would then be put back into repair - this is wrecking. "Russia is not pulling such expensive projects" - this government is not pulling such projects. Today is the birthday of Joseph Vissarionovich Stalin - he pulled everything and lifted the country, and won the war, and refused American loans to restore the country after the war, I think the ship would be repaired and modernized in a year if not faster. The government is obliged to instantly find and provide money for the security of the country, otherwise no one needs such a government.

[seti]

Calmly and without panic. You need to consider what to completely reconstruct, and simply investing tremendous money in a ship that has not been bothered for years by much attention is not advisable. TAVKR Kuznetsov is already well-worn. The power plant is mildly outdated and extremely unreliable. A ship called a homeless. Su-Xnumx is also far from ideal, since it is clearly not Su-Xnumx, much less Su-Xnumx. So is it worth it to upgrade it with the latest technology if this does not pay for itself in the future? It is much better to just light it up and finish designing a new aircraft carrier / forester.

[loginovich]

Quote: seti

So is it worth it to upgrade it with the latest technology if this does not pay for itself in the future?

Do you think that the Navy and the Armed Forces are commercial organizations, and military equipment is commercial transport?

[The black]

Source: Admiral Kuznetsov will be repaired and modernized according to the reduced program

I hope that this does not mean that the anchor will be painted.

[Romario_Argo]

the boilers will only change and immediately "in operation" so as not to shift the timing

[Omskgasmyas]

Be sure to change the air finishers. They destroyed 2 aircraft during a campaign to Syria.

[seti]

I believe that you must first create at least two deep-sea berths in enclosed parking lots in the Northern and Pacific Fleets. Especially for aircraft carriers. We do not have all the associated infrastructure either. And only after that it is possible to create two aircraft carrier groups. By then, to have AWACS aircraft which we also do not have yet. Let the country's leadership decide what kind of aircraft carriers to create in the future - but investing my money in the deep modernization of Kuzi is inappropriate.
Kuzi’s campaign to Syria is a break-in of the ship, sailors and pilots. Invaluable experience. Therefore, do not tighten. And stupidly to swell money - we already passed it.

[NKT]

Where do you get ships in carrier groups with such a pace of construction?

[seti]

Actually, they already are. Or did Kuzi’s trip to the shores of Syria teach you nothing? Why do you think the expensive modernization of Admiral Nakhimov? Let me remind you - Kuzya was escorted to Syria by a whole escort squad consisting of: the heavy nuclear-powered cruiser Peter the Great Orlan project, two anti-submarine ships - Severomorsk and Vice Admiral Kulakov. They drove off submarines approaching Kuznetsov, scanned, searched, the Altai rescue tug went all the way to Syria with the group. Three tankers. In addition to these ships, at one stage there was a nuclear submarine escort. In the Mediterranean was a submarine project Warsaw. Perhaps not one.
When the aircraft carriers are built and they go into operation, and this is most likely not earlier than the 25-30 of the year, we will have enough frigates and corvettes of the far zone to help the Eagles. Even with such a pace of construction.

[Krabik]

The word "pay back" is not necessarily understood in terms of financial profit.

Most likely, it was understood that after modernization the ship would be very conditionally ready for military campaigns.

[nickname7]

Well, if you don’t have enough money for everything, then it’s better not to modernize the main power plant, but to save the money you spend on upgrading weapons. Aircraft carrier can be temporarily dragged by an oligarch's yacht. Make a schedule and let the oligarchs take turns providing their yachts as a tugboat.

[Krabik]

You can rent Kuzyu as a yacht Abramovich.

And to raise the salary of our deputies with the proceeds from 400 thousand, at least up to 700 thousand rubles a month.

[NEXUS]

Quote: Krabik

You can rent Kuzyu as a yacht Abramovich.

Abramovich has a yacht with a good destroyer, and by the way, and in terms of armament, it is a little inferior to a modern warship. And such "yachts" displacement from the TARK is a bust. Unless all this aligarch is collected on it and cracked on some kind of iceberg.

[Paranoid50]

Quote: NEXUS

Is that all this aligarhat on it to collect and crack about some kind of iceberg.

Damn it, the ship is a pity, but these ... no, they won't drown. And sharks in those latitudes are rare. A yacht is not a yacht, but for its intended purpose, the Kuznetsov will still serve. Well, the heart will surely cure him. Everything you need is available.

[Krabik]

There’s no mine in the bag ?!

Strange cure for ship%)

[Paranoid50]

Quote: Krabik

There’s no mine in the bag ?!

Just one of the new boilers. And, by the way, it visually resembles precisely the heart.

[igor67]

Quote: NEXUS

Abramovich has a yacht with a good destroyer,

about two or three weeks ago Melnichenko came to us in Israel on his yacht, in my opinion, more so than at Abramovich.

[voyaka uh]

So this was what the ship was. I looked from afar. Something hefty and incomprehensible.

[Per se.]

Quote: voyaka uh

I watched from a distance. Something hefty and incomprehensible.

Because it is acquired by "overwork" ...

[igor67]

Quote: Per se.

Quote: voyaka uh

I watched from a distance. Something hefty and incomprehensible.

Because it is acquired by "overwork" ...

in these yachts acquired (by overwork) your funds for new ships. I don’t even understand why this is so? Half a billion Baku

[Per se.]

We, Igor, have brought a lot to the point of absurdity. As long as the country is in the bad guys, the burzhuinskie "jam jar" and "cookie pack" will show up like this. Losing billions, saving pennies. I will not develop politics here, but Russia, and the entire civilization, need to think about a different social system, otherwise, nothing will change for the better.

[igor67]

Quote: Per se.

We, Igor, have brought a lot to the point of absurdity. As long as the country is in the bad guys, the burzhuinskie "jam jar" and "cookie pack" will show up like this. Losing billions, saving pennies. I will not develop politics here, but Russia, and the entire civilization, need to think about a different social system, otherwise, nothing will change for the better.

it’s hard to advise, even Peter the first tried to fight, how many executions of embezzlers he executed, which cost only the governor of Siberia, friend of Peter, the same decree to arrest Menshikov’s best friend but ....

[Lavrenti Pavlovich]

Quote: Krabik

You can rent Kuzyu as a yacht Abramovich.

And to raise the salary of our deputies with the proceeds from 400 thousand, at least up to 700 thousand rubles a month.

The State Duma deputies have a salary of about 800 rubles.

[Lavrenti Pavlovich]

Quote: seti

Calmly and without panic. You need to consider what to completely reconstruct, and simply investing tremendous money in a ship that has not been bothered for years by much attention is not advisable. TAVKR Kuznetsov is already well-worn. The power plant is mildly outdated and extremely unreliable. A ship called a homeless. Su-Xnumx is also far from ideal, since it is clearly not Su-Xnumx, much less Su-Xnumx. So is it worth it to upgrade it with the latest technology if this does not pay for itself in the future? It is much better to just light it up and finish designing a new aircraft carrier / forester.

That's when there will be at least one new aircraft carrier, then you can safely repair or write off. Only in the coming years no new aircraft carriers are expected and therefore the Kuzyu must be modernized and repaired very quickly, as well as the modernization of the SU33.

[Romario_Argo]

at least at TAVKR there is 2 Radar Monolith and 2 satellite R-400 Crystal for MKRC Liana and 12 RCC Granite - this enough!

[Kent0001]

Why are you all talking with slogans? The question is different: now the grandmother will pour in it, then he will wander into the Mediterranean a couple of times and again, not a three-year repair, to the mooring wall? ETOGES how much dough do you need? So either let them do it well now, or on patiphone needles, otherwise it’s zero sense ... although with two repairs, instead of one, more dough will be sawed ..... sad.

[Buffet]

but it turns out that "mean pays twice."

[max702]

According to the mind, it should be attributed to scrap metal, the combat value is zero, the repair and maintenance costs are enormous .. There are no goals and tasks that he could accomplish .. all that he is capable of, the ground squadron will perform better and cheaper by orders of magnitude .. better on those the money they want to spend on repairing this trough to buy a mahre of normal walkie-talkies and boots, the effect will be orders of magnitude higher than using this instance ..

[Hurricane70]

A source in the Russian military-industrial complex reports, but:
"... TASS does not have official confirmation of this information ..."
In short: "The interlocutor specified", but "... failed to clarify ..."
So trust such a source!

[Topotun]

On the good - it is necessary to build a new one, and not to modernize the existing one ... But where is the money from? And the situation around Russia is not the most calm.

[The Siberian barber]

..and not one, but four) two per fleet, ideally

[sogdy]

Quote: The Siberian Barber

and four) two per fleet, ideally

So who do not you consider for the fleet?

[Bourbon]

Quote: sogdy

So who do not you consider for the fleet?

2 to the north and two to the Pacific Fleet ... in the Baltic and black, aircraft carriers are not needed in principle

[sogdy]

And who will ensure interests in the Atlantic and Indian? Again Perseus?

[Bourbon]

Quote: sogdy

And who will ensure interests in the Atlantic and Indian? Again Perseus?

..... you learn the mat part - then think - then - post !!

[sogdy]

Quote: Burbon

You learn the mat part - then think - then - post !!

What do you disagree with?
1) no interests?
2) arranges modern distribution (not the only possible)?
3) the “Baltic problem” exists not only in the Baltic. Everything suits me?
4) unwanted expansion of command?
5) do not recognize the likelihood of war across the ocean?

[Bourbon]

Quote: sogdy

What do you disagree with?

I wrote to you - learn the mat part and do not invent your own speculations from your head .. there is a doctrine, there are ways to achieve it ....

[sogdy]

Quote: Burbon

but do not invent your own conjectures out of your head .. there is a doctrine, there are ways to achieve it ...

Quote: Burbon

2 to the north and two to the Pacific Fleet ... in the Baltic and black, aircraft carriers are not needed in principle

?!?
What about the fact that the former mandates persistently return to us? Or war on the borders. So yes?
By the way, the doctrine is quite open. I would say "meaningfully."

[Suhov]

Quote: Topotun

On the good - it is necessary to build a new one, and not to modernize the existing one ...
But where is the money from?

Indeed, where can Russia get money in the richest (natural resources) country in the world?

[Lexus]

It is a pity that the plans pokotsali.

[Berkut154]

It was already being repaired at an abbreviated 35 shipyard, before going to Syria, we know how it ended. Repair in 35 does not inspire much optimism.

[Alexey RA]

Quote: Berkut154

It was already being repaired at an abbreviated 35 shipyard, before going to Syria, we know how it ended. Repair in 35 does not inspire much optimism.

Because it was not a repair, but restoration of technical readiness before a long sea voyage, the main criterion of which was "keep within a given time."
Full repair of Kuznetsov is comparable to the reconstruction of Baku-Gorshkov. And it was necessary to do it about 10 years ago. EMNIP, overhaul on 11435 has not been since construction. Maximum - average repair.

[Berkut154]

I totally agree.

[The Siberian barber]

You can still sell the kidneys, while they still can give a price
Or, already, can’t ??)

[Herculesic]

Especially for you, they’ll remake it into an air defense cruiser. ????

[donavi49]

No.

Nobody needs him.

The Chinese of the already improved Kuzyu built a new one from 2014 to 2018. He is already undergoing the factory test phase at the wall. It seems to NG (Chinese) - the first exit to the sea. There are new boilers (or rather, the energy sector has been completely updated with an increase in power, reliability and computerization of processes, including water treatment - the technology of which is maintained perfectly because of the control system). The next aircraft carrier they will have with 4 catapults and without a springboard. For the past year, airplanes have been constantly tormenting their stand of a new aircraft carrier - there are already a lot of pictures with ejection crutches, and not only OKB, but also combat naval aircraft. The year 2020 may already see their Type-002 in metal.

Hindus - they have their own aircraft carrier program. Made in India. And their cuts of epic proportions. In general, the 2 of the next aircraft carrier they have already been scheduled for money, they break through the third loot so that no one is offended.

[Alexey RA]

Quote: donavi49

The next aircraft carrier they will have with 4 catapults and without a springboard.

EMNIP, Indians are also leaning toward AB with catapults and a full-fledged air group.

[Kurare]

Quote: donavi49

Nobody needs him.

Well, let's write off Kuznetsov, and then what? Within 3-4 years, we will completely and permanently lose deck pilots, who are already a handful in Russia. No new research and projects on the topic of AUG will be carried out at all. And it's all! Deck aviation and the aircraft carrier fleet, whatever its "under" is - the end!

“Kuznetsov” is not perfect: GEM to hell, a springboard is not an ideal solution, even the air finishers were unfinished. But this, after going to the coast of Syria, is a combat unit that provides invaluable experience working with such complex systems.

[Herculesic]

For such a period, it can be reassembled pre-disassembled to the keel! !!!

[faiver]

We do not live in China and not in the USSR

[m.cempbell]

Perhaps it was decided not to invest a lot in Kuzya because preparing a draft of a new aircraft carrier, or something like a Leader put in priority. In any case, I think something instead of Kuzi will be for sure.

[Andrei from Chelyabinsk]

Expected. Sadly, in the conditions of extremely tight GPV 2018-2025 maybe - this is the optimal solution

[xtur]

> Expected. It's sad, but in the conditions of an extremely tight-fisted GPV 2018-2025, maybe this is the optimal solution

come on,

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now you just have a band of pessimism / depression, but all this will pass (as well as everyday problems).

GPV for the fleet is quite normal, given the unresolved issues with the creation of marine versions of the S-400, S-500. And for Kuznetsov, the most important thing now is the repair of boilers that already purchased.
That is, the repair was simply divided into two parts.

[vanavatny]

no money, but you hold on ...

[novel66]

faster, once = time to fight!

[loki565]

Well, for 3 years they are building a new aircraft carrier, but here three years repair one transition and again repair))) well, what can you do about your children are always the most beautiful and most intelligent)))

[Alexey RA]

Quote: loki565

Well, for 3 years they are building a new aircraft carrier, but here three years repair one transition and again repair))) well, what can you do about your children are always the most beautiful and most intelligent)))

In a normal fleet, an aircraft carrier repairs from a quarter to a third of its service life, depending on age. In our country, the only AB was exploited in the tail and in the mane, traditionally believing that the overhaul time is an invention of the manufacturers, and that the repair can be replaced restoration of technical readiness followed by the inevitable heroism of the personnel. Actually, the current state 11435 "repair-trip-repair" is the result of such exploitation in the "what will the iron be done?" Mode. What are the terms of scheduled repairs - forward, on a hike, it is urgent to show the flag in Middle-earth. And they showed, yes ...
I remember that in Soviet times the line for overhaul for some ships came up right before the decommissioning.

[APASUS]

It seems war is getting closer, too many coincidences!

[Going]

Apparently the time is right and you can’t do without war.

[APASUS]

Quote: Going

Apparently the time is right and you can’t do without war.

I think there are still options, but the option should be provided for with the war.

[Going]

I'd like to believe what will carry.

[CAPTIVE]

And still, “Kuzya” did a good job off the coast of Syria .. They pay for it, upgrade it, and he will still puff off the coast of the USA, our pilots must be mugged by men!

[Stoler]

It seems just PCBs on the ship will hold and mustache

[colonel manuch]

Again, the liberals are trying to cut the military component of the budget, maybe it’s easier to get rid of them than to ruin the only aircraft carrier?

[Old26]

Quote: captive

And still, “Kuzya” did a good job off the coast of Syria .. They pay for it, upgrade it, and he will still puff off the coast of the USA, our pilots must be mugged by men!

In order for him to work off the coast of the United States, and the pilots there should be laughed at least so that there is something to disorderly and have guarantees that he will go there and return back under his own power

[Thunderbolt]

I don’t know the details of the repair, but I suppose that he’ll just be pimped so that he:
1.) just was.
2.) I was able to make a "" visit to Tartus without much difficulty.
Better than nothing, but much worse than it could be. I am a supporter of aircraft carriers and not for their large appearance, but for the fact that they are carriers of aviation, which significantly enhances and increases the contour of the fleet at sea. Of course, not aviation itself multiplies combat capabilities, and in a single complex with packed guard ships, strategic drones, space grouping ... and here we have not a lot, so the big trouble is that it will be just a repair and not, in our situation.

[turbris]

Of course, an obsolete aircraft carrier needs to be repaired and modernized according to an abbreviated program, who doesn’t understand this? What is the purpose of the repair? To leave him in the combat strength of the fleet for another 5 or a little more years, then he will most likely become a training one. Therefore, there is no point in changing the missile system, but we must think about the concept of new aircraft carriers, not as heavy as in the United States, but adapted for use in the Russian Navy.

[Tyulen]

Now look at Kuzyu in the morning. Again.

[Cananecat]

It is impossible to kill and it is impossible to dispose ...

[annodomene]

Ultimately, everything will end with a dock repair with the restoration of the TG. The builder will probably be appointed Ilyich. In a word - success.

[rumatam]

As a result, they will paint it.

[da Vinci]

"Admiral Kuznetsov" will be repaired and modernized according to the shortened program - And he will sail along the shortened route!