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MI6: Malaysian Boeing was shot down from the Russian Buk complex

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The British Foreign Intelligence Service MI6 informed the country's parliament that it has no doubts about the Russian origin of the Buk anti-aircraft missile system, from which Malaysian Boeing was shot down over Ukraine’s territory in 2014, reports Look.




This conclusion is contained in the report of the committee of the British Parliament on intelligence and security.

The paper cites a representative of the Mi-6:

We know that, beyond any reasonable doubt, the Russian military supplied and subsequently removed the rocket launcher (from the territory of Ukraine after the fall of MH17).


Earlier, the Bellingcat website (founded by a British journalist) accused Russian retired Colonel General Nikolai Tkachev of being involved in the crash of the Boeing. The general called this message "apparent foolishness."

Opposition parties in the Donbass refuse to admit involvement in the destruction of the Malaysian Airlines passenger aircraft in July 2014. The report of the international investigation team also states that the Buk was hit from the territory of Russia and then returned back to Boeing. The Russian Foreign Ministry called the investigation biased and indicated that the main data was obtained from the Ukrainian side.
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  1. Mihail177
    Mihail177 21 December 2017 14: 42 New
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    These famous British scientists .....
    1. 79807420129
      79807420129 21 December 2017 14: 45 New
      +7
      Quote: Michael177
      These famous British scientists .....

      But they are noble provocateurs. yes
      1. Chertt
        Chertt 21 December 2017 14: 48 New
        +6
        Quote: 79807420129
        But they are noble provocateurs.

        Once upon a time, they are at the level of fake news
        1. Burbon
          Burbon 21 December 2017 15: 20 New
          +1
          Quote: 79807420129
          But they are noble provocateurs

          but that’s not important anymore ... the statement is a fait accompli, you can shake the air as much as you like, but they won’t change their minds .... ours waved away .... we’ll continue
          1. 79807420129
            79807420129 21 December 2017 15: 30 New
            +8
            Quote: Burbon
            but they will not change their opinion

            This is for sure Dmitry hi And the closer the March 18, 2018 elections, the more such statements will be, all these links of the same chain, the IOC, the Malaysian Boeing, were not wasted for 3 years with this, they will throw something else, the attack is on all fronts, but ours
            Quote: Burbon
            ours waved off.

            request
            Quote: Burbon
            we will continue to live

            And what remains for us not to use the same nuclear charge for these peers, horseradish and lords. request hi
            1. Burbon
              Burbon 21 December 2017 15: 44 New
              +1
              Quote: 79807420129
              , all these are links of one chain, the IOC, the Malaysian Boeing, not for nothing pulled with this 3 years

              drinks I don’t understand one thing ... since they hate Putin so passionately, then what will not impose personal sanctions against him ?? belay what do you think ..... why?
              1. bulvas
                bulvas 21 December 2017 15: 59 New
                +6
                "There is no doubt"And"there is evidence"- two very big differences
                1. Hellraiser
                  Hellraiser 21 December 2017 16: 44 New
                  +2
                  Quote: bulvas
                  "There is no doubt"And"there is evidence"- two very big differences

                  The main data was obtained from the Ukrainian side - these say everything.
              2. 79807420129
                79807420129 21 December 2017 16: 01 New
                +4
                Quote: Burbon
                since they hate Putin so passionately, then what will not impose personal sanctions against him ??

                And hell knows what they are guided by request specially now I’ve rummaged around an amazing thing, there are personal sanctions against Kim Jong-un, and there are no friends against Putin, Assad, Rouhani or something. request hi Hoping for the Ukrainian scenario, either as a second Maidan, Yanuk also had to sit for several months or as the first Yanuk won, but they raised a wave such as dishonestly, let's recount. So sanctions against heads of state and members of governments are not introduced. hi
          2. Pete mitchell
            Pete mitchell 21 December 2017 17: 18 New
            +4
            Quote: Burbon
            .... we will continue to live

            We will definitely, but it’s wildly interesting: where is the report of the English company, which decrypted the recorders? Or these, too, have "merged"
      2. Going
        Going 21 December 2017 14: 48 New
        +4
        Vlad, good afternoon! hi drinks provocateurs noble and dirty.
        1. figwam
          figwam 21 December 2017 15: 07 New
          +2
          Malaysian Boeing, which had disappeared before, was used as a provocation against Russia, corpses with a formalin smell and a stack of pristine passeparts. Does anyone in the world still believe in Western intelligence?
          1. Going
            Going 21 December 2017 15: 11 New
            +4
            There is such a version, but I'm afraid we will not find out the truth.
          2. groks
            groks 21 December 2017 15: 18 New
            +2
            Nobody seems to have mentioned formalin. Just about the bad smell. and why should he be pleasant? Passports could be collected upon landing - it’s very easy to clarify with this.
            This is not a hassle.
            1. Going
              Going 21 December 2017 15: 20 New
              +3
              There was biological material, and probably ours took an interest in the time period of death, and what it is ... maybe it's a trump card in the sleeve, or maybe ...
              1. groks
                groks 21 December 2017 15: 29 New
                +1
                Well then, the scandal would have already rattled. It is impossible to hide such a powerful conspiracy, due to the huge number of people involved. What could the organizers have expected in general, palm off stale, and even formalized corpses?
                1. Going
                  Going 21 December 2017 15: 35 New
                  +3
                  Here I am about the same thing, there are two options - we will never know the truth, there will be an information bomb, with a full alignment and irrefutable evidence.
                  1. sabakina
                    sabakina 21 December 2017 16: 13 New
                    +4
                    Victor, as I recall, knowledgeable people were surprised that there was practically no blood. There is a kind of movie investigation.
                    1. Going
                      Going 21 December 2017 16: 29 New
                      +3
                      Vyacheslav, this tragedy will remain on a par with the killing of Kennedy, the truth we will not wait.
                      1. Pete mitchell
                        Pete mitchell 21 December 2017 18: 32 New
                        +7
                        Quote: Going
                        .. the truth we will not wait.

                        I’m probably an optimist, but I think that the Russian Federation has an ace up its sleeve: there is a system, there are people who brought the system up, there are .. Yes, I don’t believe that intelligence does not know everyone by name: we studied together, we repaired equipment, we drowned vodka too together. Really all of them were quietly dug up. The dispatcher with her husband cannot even find the 404th. When I tell the bourgeois that she was sent on vacation the next day - they don’t believe it, it’s impossible, they probably buried it already.
                        I think this wave will still go
                    2. Baloo
                      Baloo 21 December 2017 17: 03 New
                      +1
                      Quote: sabakina
                      Victor, as I recall, knowledgeable people were surprised that there was practically no blood. There is a kind of movie investigation.

                      In the early days, fragments of skin-splattered blood were demonstrated.
                      Once upon a time, in the news, a parachutist’s fall video was shown in which the parachute did not open. When the spare did not open, it poured out of him like a goose, and then he just started to chat in all directions - lost consciousness or died. There was not much blood around the corpses of the unfortunate passengers, because they died there still at high altitude due to the instantaneous pressure drop.
                  2. groks
                    groks 21 December 2017 16: 21 New
                    +1
                    Well, we won’t find out the truth anyway.
                    knowledgeable people
                    Were they there? They saw a lot of corpses after explosive decompression and a fall from 10000m?
                    Well, and what version do those people have?
            2. Baloo
              Baloo 21 December 2017 16: 59 New
              +1
              х
              Quote: groks
              Just about the bad smell

              The bodies fell from great heights. Corpses already reached the ground. A sharp pressure drop, ruptures of internal organs in contact with the ground, well, you understand what I mean?
              The contents of the intestines smell very bad. Surgeons and pathologists know how.
    2. Lexus
      Lexus 21 December 2017 18: 36 New
      0
      These famous British scientists .....

      It is they ...
  2. Going
    Going 21 December 2017 14: 43 New
    +7
    Well, here are the "British specialists" erupted, and the evidence is also classified.
    1. Chertt
      Chertt 21 December 2017 14: 46 New
      +4
      Quote: Going
      Well, here are the "British specialists" erupted, and the evidence is also classified.

      They were not there, then they were classified, then lost, in general they won’t show Russia., But the evidence is iron
      1. Going
        Going 21 December 2017 14: 47 New
        +3
        Well, yes, the laptop was forgotten in the pub.
    2. kapitan92
      kapitan92 21 December 2017 14: 50 New
      +8
      Quote: Going
      Well, here are the "British specialists" erupted, and the evidence is also classified.

      The closer to March, the more "specialists" will erupt.
      By the 2018 World Cup in Russia, Rodchenkova will bang, accusing us, and they will come up with something against our players. hi
      1. Going
        Going 21 December 2017 15: 06 New
        +4
        Yes, and we need to be prepared that this is for the rest of our lives.
        1. sir_obs
          sir_obs 21 December 2017 15: 30 New
          +1
          The rest of their lives, if this goes on
          1. Going
            Going 21 December 2017 15: 39 New
            +3
            Let's not scare anyone. lol
        2. kapitan92
          kapitan92 21 December 2017 15: 37 New
          +5
          Quote: Going
          Yes, and we need to be prepared that this is for the rest of our lives.

          I don’t know for the rest, but 2018 will be difficult in this regard. Ready to be, that's for sure! drinks hi
      2. LiSiCyn
        LiSiCyn 21 December 2017 15: 07 New
        +5
        So already ... Rodchenkov, said that he has facts of the use of doping by the national team footballers .. It's just that FIFA is not in contact with him yet ... But if they sell FIFU .. As this put it ... The World Cup cannot be canceled, but you can cancel the Russian team ..
        1. LiSiCyn
          LiSiCyn 21 December 2017 15: 22 New
          +2
          Admins do not sleep wink "This," was addressed to Rodchenkov ... In general, he is an animal ...
        2. Non liberoid Russian
          Non liberoid Russian 21 December 2017 15: 27 New
          +2
          Yes, this team is what is what is not ... some show-offs and disgrace
        3. kapitan92
          kapitan92 21 December 2017 19: 55 New
          +5
          Quote: LiSiCyn
          So already ... Rodchenkov, said that he has facts of the use of doping by the national team footballers .. It's just that FIFA is not in contact with him yet ... But if they sell FIFU .. As this put it ... The World Cup cannot be canceled, but you can cancel the Russian team ..

          It seems to me that the script is already made up. Rodya merges the FIFA info, the “bloodthirsty Russians” destroy him in retaliation, high on the whole world, along the way, the doping scandal with our players and “ladies” will “pop up”. fellow
          1. LiSiCyn
            LiSiCyn 21 December 2017 22: 58 New
            +2
            FIFA still rests ... Grandmas are big, sponsors. Time is for us. But, Rodu, they can. It is believed that we will try to divert attention closer to the World Cup. At the far approaches ... wink
      3. groks
        groks 21 December 2017 18: 50 New
        +1
        Why come up with something against our players?
    3. Sergey53
      Sergey53 21 December 2017 15: 48 New
      +1
      As soon as they, with the help of Ukraine, collect evidence (at our training grounds), bring the evidence of breaking through the remains of the fuselage into line, everything will spin at a fast pace. It’s not for nothing that we don’t transfer the remains of their aircraft to the Poles. Because of the same.
  3. LiSiCyn
    LiSiCyn 21 December 2017 14: 44 New
    +6
    Shame !!! And that, the heirs of agent 007 ... I had a better opinion of this "service" fool I wonder when the truth will be revealed, how will they sing ...?
    1. Going
      Going 21 December 2017 14: 45 New
      +9
      The secretary or the cleaning lady will be fired.
      1. LiSiCyn
        LiSiCyn 21 December 2017 14: 58 New
        +3
        We must constantly poke them with a “face” ... And condemn ... "Who did it? And? Who did it?" am And preferably with a slipper, on the ass .. Only, so we will make them crap, only in our tray ... laughing
        1. Going
          Going 21 December 2017 15: 04 New
          +4
          Yeah, and a slipper of the 45th size and well soaked.
          1. LiSiCyn
            LiSiCyn 21 December 2017 15: 15 New
            +2
            And you, special. wink Got experience, "peace enforcement"? I'm afraid the 45th, and even the "soaked", may not survive lol Mongrel, painfully shallow laughing
            1. Going
              Going 21 December 2017 15: 23 New
              +4
              So in my childhood they made tourists, only it was a sneaker and for an unseemly misconduct. laughing
  4. Alexey RA
    Alexey RA 21 December 2017 14: 45 New
    +1
    We know that, beyond any reasonable doubt, the Russian military supplied and subsequently removed the rocket launcher (from the territory of Ukraine after the fall of MH17).

    So give evidence. What is the problem?
    Or do gentlemen still think everyone will take their word for it? wink
    1. Burbon
      Burbon 21 December 2017 15: 21 New
      0
      Quote: Alexey RA
      Or do gentlemen still think everyone will take their word for it?

      and you doubt ????? ... even as the whole EU will believe and the United States will ....
  5. Pacifist
    Pacifist 21 December 2017 14: 47 New
    +1
    Together with the CIA, these people from MI6 have publicly lied so many times (Iraq’s WMD, the Albanian genocide, chemical attacks in Syria, etc.) that their words are not worth the air shock. Trepachi they are empty. Selling women are more honest and decent.
  6. Herculesic
    Herculesic 21 December 2017 14: 47 New
    +2
    Well, then it was Britain who dropped both atomic bombs on Japan, and threatened to force Hitler to start World War II! fool
    1. Chertt
      Chertt 21 December 2017 14: 58 New
      +1
      Well, in the interpretation of information, the Anglo-Saxons, out of competition.
  7. Vlad.by
    Vlad.by 21 December 2017 14: 50 New
    0
    I didn’t understand, and Buki may not be of Russian origin ???
    But what about intellectual property rights?

    But in fact - with the same degree of certainty, it can be argued that this is an English passenger Bukaner failed.
    Witnesses - the sea.
    "Everyone knows" that Bukanir is able to rise to a height of 10 thousand m.
    So, it can be considered proven that it was he who shot.
  8. Romka47
    Romka47 21 December 2017 14: 51 New
    +2
    Yes, even if there is a Ukrainian calculation commander who repents and pleads guilty, everyone will blame the Russian Federation for sure, at least in the eyes of nassa (sorry for the expression), they will say that he was either forced or hypnotized. Everyone understands who shot down, everyone understands who needs to be blamed. There is no place for justice in geopolitics !!!!
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  10. Azazelo
    Azazelo 21 December 2017 15: 02 New
    +1
    Is there evidence? - no, go to ...
    That’s something like this should be a dialogue with these freaks.
    1. Town Hall
      Town Hall 21 December 2017 15: 06 New
      +1
      Quote: Azazelo
      Is there evidence? - no, go to ....
      That’s something like this should be a dialogue with these freaks.




      At about the same level, there was a dialogue with doping matters ... recall what ended?
  11. cannabis
    cannabis 21 December 2017 15: 04 New
    +2
    I'm interested in something else. We have intelligence of the General Staff, we have the Foreign Intelligence Service, we have intelligence agents in the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, correspondents, private investigators, embedded agents of the Ministry of Internal Affairs in criminal communities (mafia). Was it really impossible to collect information about those involved, all their names, connections, negotiations, degree of subordination, and present the data for all to see through all these people? More than strange.
    1. Baloo
      Baloo 21 December 2017 17: 15 New
      +1
      Quote: cunning
      I'm interested in something else. We have intelligence of the General Staff, we have the Foreign Intelligence Service, we have intelligence agents in the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, correspondents, private investigators, embedded agents of the Ministry of Internal Affairs in criminal communities (mafia). Was it really impossible to collect information about those involved, all their names, connections, negotiations, degree of subordination, and present the data for all to see through all these people? More than strange.

      Why substitute people? There are recordings of a conversation with the Dnepropetrovsk hub. The dispatcher, who took the Boeing away from a safe traditional route, and even to a lower echelon, quit the morning and no one else saw her with her husband. Dnepropetrovsk airport is the property of Kalomoy, at least. It's like in poker, the main trump cards (satellite images) neither we nor the Americans show. While sworn partners are bluffing, why show them their trump cards?
    2. Baloo
      Baloo 21 December 2017 17: 31 New
      +1
      Quote: cunning
      I'm interested in something else. We have intelligence of the General Staff, we have the Foreign Intelligence Service, we have intelligence agents in the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, correspondents, private investigators, embedded agents of the Ministry of Internal Affairs in criminal communities (mafia). Was it really impossible to collect information about those involved, all their names, connections, negotiations, degree of subordination, and present the data for all to see through all these people? More than strange.

      What is the purpose of substituting people when there is a recording of conversations with the dispatcher who took the airplane off a safe traditional route, and even to a lower echelon? Madame quit in the morning and no one saw her more with her husband. Finally, there should also be satellite images. Not those who tried to fit Build to our Union of Russian Engineers, and who did not pay attention to the dates and sizes of the airplanes, were shown on our channels. On VO this fake ochchchen quickly exposed. The Americans, too, are in no hurry to present pictures from their satellites. It's like in poker, why show your cards when sworn "partners" are bluffing. I have to wait.
  12. Evil 55
    Evil 55 21 December 2017 15: 11 New
    0
    There is only one question-answer .. This was done by those who needed it .. and obviously not Russian ..
  13. groks
    groks 21 December 2017 15: 21 New
    0
    In general, why did they get all this? Yes, "beyond any reasonable doubt." Were they there, interviewed witnesses, examined the scene of events?
    In general, even if they are 100% right, this does not mean at all what they want to present. This means a failed coup attempt in the Russian Federation.
  14. Non liberoid Russian
    Non liberoid Russian 21 December 2017 15: 24 New
    0
    we have no doubt that it’s Russian ... but we can’t prove secrecy;) Well, not ... for?
  15. NF68
    NF68 21 December 2017 15: 53 New
    +4
    For the 4 year, the commission investigating this plane crash has been looking for everything and looking for the culprits without sparing its belly. About the same as the Americans looked for weapons of mass destruction in Iraq.
  16. Filippov Yuri
    Filippov Yuri 21 December 2017 15: 57 New
    +2
    And William and Harry will be princes of Galim in life until they find one
    who bowed his hat in agreement to kill their mother.
  17. vnord
    vnord 21 December 2017 15: 58 New
    +1
    Quote: groks
    Passports could be collected at boarding - it’s very easy to clarify with this

    Do you have a passport when you fly?
    1. groks
      groks 21 December 2017 18: 55 New
      0
      I haven’t been flying anywhere since 97 — there is no need. And he never flew outside the country. Therefore, I ask, but not affirm.
  18. vnord
    vnord 21 December 2017 16: 01 New
    0
    Quote: LiSiCyn
    already ... Rodchenkov, said that he has facts of the use of doping by football players of the national team

    Yes, they always pierce before the matches-girls and booze until the morning ........
  19. Lena Petrova
    Lena Petrova 21 December 2017 16: 04 New
    +1
    Quote: bulvas
    "There is no doubt"And"there is evidence"- two very big differences

    Yes, our doubts are against them. Only in court, doubts do not work.
  20. K-50
    K-50 21 December 2017 16: 20 New
    0
    The document cites the representative of Mi-6: We know that, beyond any reasonable doubt, the Russian military supplied and subsequently launched a missile launcher (from Ukraine after the fall of MH17).

    It’s even hard to comment on something, because the brain stupidity of the Naglossak people is contagious, or is it from the Ukrobandera people? what negative
  21. Furious bambr
    Furious bambr 21 December 2017 16: 21 New
    +1
    Ours are also well done: either an attack aircraft, photos with a MiG, or recognition of a pilot, a beech ... It’s better to be silent than to carry any nonsense. The fact that 53 zbrd is not at work is for sure, and even to the zvizdyulin reporters to fill up so that they do not bark ahead of time
  22. Cananecat
    Cananecat 21 December 2017 16: 46 New
    +5
    I also never once doubt that Buk was Russian ... not in Malaysia they are collected. But the operators were from the APU.
    She is half-truth ... MI6 they did not deceive their parliament, they simply did not say who gave the order to press the button. laughing
  23. Dym71
    Dym71 21 December 2017 16: 56 New
    +1
    We know that, beyond any reasonable doubt, the Russian military supplied and subsequently launched a missile launcher

    Original text with footnote:
    142. SIS informed us that “all three Russian intelligence services are tasked with
    carrying out 'information operations' [which] goes beyond promulgating the Russian
    perspective and includes the creating and propagation of forgeries and falsehoods ”. One
    obvious area is Ukraine, where:
    Russia conducts information warfare on a massive scale ... An early example of this
    was a hugely intensive, multi-channel propaganda effort to persuade the world that
    Russia bore no responsibility for the shooting down of [Malaysian Airlines flight]
    MH-17 (an outright falsehood: we know beyond any reasonable doubt that the
    Russian military supplied and subsequently recovered the missile launcher). *

    * - Written evidence - SIS, 30 August 2016.
    Help to translate correctly, since it is rather weak in the English language, the cheat does not beat my translation of the original with what the media give out.
  24. Evgenijus
    Evgenijus 21 December 2017 17: 01 New
    +1
    Charles Robert Darwin is also an Englishman, and everyone believed that our ancestors climbed palm trees. The British have to believe! But the question about the other - when will the British stop lying? Evolutionists ...
  25. Sands Careers General
    Sands Careers General 21 December 2017 17: 41 New
    +4
    Their mother, and where is the irrefutable evidence? So anyone can talk with his tongue, it's not bags tossing and turning.
    1. Vasyan1971
      Vasyan1971 21 December 2017 18: 48 New
      0
      Quote: Sands Career General
      Their mother, and where is the irrefutable evidence? So anyone can talk with his tongue, it's not bags tossing and turning.

      Gentlemen believe in words! No.
  26. gloomy fox
    gloomy fox 21 December 2017 17: 49 New
    +1
    the main thing is that what the British "experts" said as a balm for the soul of Khokhlov. and those with foam at the mouth will scream You see, even Europe knows that it is Russians who shot down a Boeing! trepologists. negative
  27. 23424636
    23424636 21 December 2017 18: 25 New
    +1
    Recently, the site has been actively feeding on the dregs of the Aglitsa yellow press, given that in this country the disease of mad cow disease at one time affected part of the population and the consequences of this disease associated with the destruction of human brain cells are intensifying, it’s strange to read how they try to show us their symptoms even under cover intelligence.
  28. ustinov.yuri
    ustinov.yuri 21 December 2017 18: 42 New
    +2
    "Englishwoman shits" - soon two hundred years to this relevant phrase.
  29. Vasyan1971
    Vasyan1971 21 December 2017 18: 47 New
    0
    "The British Foreign Intelligence Service MI6 informed the country's parliament that it had no doubts about the Russian origin of the Buk anti-aircraft missile system, from which the Malaysian Boeing was shot down over Ukraine in 2014."
    There is no doubt. Is there evidence? And what is the origin of the Beech, when it is more important to find out who shot?
  30. groks
    groks 21 December 2017 19: 05 New
    0
    It seems that there is something to hide and ours. This is bad. Even Antei’s experiment looked strange - to whom did they want to prove?
    I can offer a version that is a bit strange at first glance, but quite real. In the Donbass, the Armed Forces of Ukraine applied "Peony", could apply - there were working tools and ammunition. So, the unfortunate plane could meet with a mine. Even without a blast, she will break the plane, and even with a blast ....
    1. LeonidL
      LeonidL 22 December 2017 06: 21 New
      0
      No, not "Peony", dear !!! Not “Peony” with a mine, but Munchausen with a core, with a core, dear !!!
      1. groks
        groks 22 December 2017 08: 40 New
        0
        What is the problem? Not aware that using the "Peony" requires an air corridor?
  31. faterdom
    faterdom 21 December 2017 19: 08 New
    +1
    “Beyond all reasonable ...” That is, it was suggested that reasonable doubts should not be taken into account, because they will drastically change the whole picture, who actually shot down this Boeing, why, and why sanctions were imposed on Russia.
    The old method that worked in the case of Gaddafi: for decades, Great Britain "without any reasonable doubt" blamed Boeing on the village of Lockerbie in Libya. And about twenty or more years later Gaddafi. decided to take this crime upon himself in order to "establish good relations with the West." Established on his own head. And not just the head.
    1. LeonidL
      LeonidL 22 December 2017 06: 20 New
      0
      It was even funny - they tried two Libyans. Moreover, both the prosecutor’s office and the court kept repeating that they did everything together ... One was completely JUSTIFIED !!! The second was completely condemned !!! And all tip-top! By the way: all real data showed on Arafat and his trained Palestinians, but ... he was already shaking hands and untouchable then.
  32. APASUS
    APASUS 21 December 2017 20: 53 New
    0
    The investigation uses information from the media - this is the height of British jurisprudence !!
    There’s no need to explain anything further
    1. Town Hall
      Town Hall 21 December 2017 21: 28 New
      0
      Quote: APASUS
      The investigation uses information from the media - this is the height of British jurisprudence !!
      There’s no need to explain anything further



      Read how a thread at your leisure, for example, clause 2 of Article 144 of the Code of Criminal Procedure of the Russian Federation. Perhaps you will not write such categorical posts ...
      1. Town Hall
        Town Hall 21 December 2017 21: 40 New
        0
        Quote: Town Hall
        Quote: APASUS
        The investigation uses information from the media - this is the height of British jurisprudence !!
        There’s no need to explain anything further



        Read how a thread at your leisure, for example, clause 2 of Article 144 of the Code of Criminal Procedure of the Russian Federation. Perhaps you will not write such categorical posts ...


        ......According to a report on a crime circulated in the media, the inquiry is carried out by the inquiry body on behalf of the prosecutor, as well as by the investigator on behalf of the head of the investigative body. The editors, the editor-in-chief of the relevant mass media are obliged to transfer, at the request of the prosecutor, investigator or inquiry body, the documents and materials available to the relevant media confirming the report of the crime, as well as information about the person who provided the information, unless the person has made a condition to keep the source of information secret.
        (in the edition of the Federal Law from 05.06.2007 N 87-FZ)
        1. APASUS
          APASUS 21 December 2017 21: 57 New
          0
          Quote: Town Hall
          (in the edition of the Federal Law from 05.06.2007 N 87-FZ)

          Why did you put all this dear?
          How is it that the British Foreign Intelligence Service MI6 and its report on the basis of the Bellingcat investigation (a person writes about himself that he did not even serve in the army) is consistent with N 87-FZ
          1. Town Hall
            Town Hall 21 December 2017 22: 07 New
            0
            Quote: APASUS
            How is it that the British Foreign Intelligence Service MI6 and its report on the basis of the Bellingcat investigation (a person writes about himself that he did not even serve in the army) is consistent with N 87-FZ



            I’m saying that if you possessed even the rudimentary knowledge in jurisprudence, you would know that media reports, journalistic investigations, etc. are the same sources of evidence as any other. In all countries, including the Russian Federation.


            And how, I’m embarrassed to ask, does service or non-service in the army affect the professional qualities of a journalist, for example? If this does not interfere with the Minister of Defense, then the journalist
            1. APASUS
              APASUS 21 December 2017 22: 30 New
              +1
              Quote: Town Hall
              I’m saying that if you possessed even the rudimentary knowledge in jurisprudence, you would know that media reports, journalistic investigations, etc. are the same sources of evidence as any other. In all countries, including the Russian Federation.

              Well, that’s exactly what it is. Excerpts from the media, written notes by convenient people, scratches on the test tube are irrefutable evidence for our Olympians. Familiar facts from the nose, where we are so miserable to talk about jurisprudence. Irrefutable speeches from the press secretaries have already begun evidence of our violation of the INF Treaty, interference with elections in the United States and Great Britain. The use of chemical weapons in Syria
              Quote: Town Hall
              And how, I’m embarrassed to ask, does service or non-service in the army affect the professional qualities of a journalist, for example? If this does not interfere with the Minister of Defense, then the journalist

              Do not be shy, you have already piled!
              A man is investigating a plane crash, shelling of civilian objects from artillery (it is full in the network of investigations of shelling of cities in Ukraine by Bellingcat), and even calls himself an expert in this field, although he does not have knowledge in this area and did not even perform military service (where at least he could began to acquire some knowledge)
              Would you like a doctor with a diploma in the basement to treat you?
              I can answer for you and I think I will not be mistaken, but you admit that the person behind the clave could become an artillery expert without getting up from his place, a specialist in ballistics, rocket technologies and has mathematical calculations of the flight of such a specific missile system as a BUK
              You disappoint me ................ children, it's time to sleep
            2. LeonidL
              LeonidL 22 December 2017 06: 12 New
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              It does not affect professional qualities in the field of linguistics, it affects the conscience of journalists, but by no means at all. The civilian jacket simply cannot understand what and how it works in the Buk air defense system, that one Madina alone cannot shoot, she simply cannot detect the target! This is a complex of military and special vehicles !!!! That the Buk is a very complex product, the Georgian military could not master it on 08/08/08, and the same Ukrainians, professionals: graduates of military academies, shot at Russian aviation! That is, the militia could not be able to bring the Buk into working condition, detect the target and shoot it down with one missile! If you carefully read the "documents" of the investigation, then pay attention to the inconsistency - then Western "experts!" Attach a "new warhead to an old missile, then - on the contrary, trying to prove the unprovable. But such" creativity "is beyond anyone's power. All real data is simply ignored by three admiral Canaris’s monkeys, the journalist should be hindered by writing conspicuous nonsense, but today this concept is so vague in the liberal media that it’s not worth taking it seriously, that in Russia, in the USA, in Britain. the rest ... What to expect from intelligence? They calmly attributed, for example, to Hussein, the presence in his palaces of terrible weapons of mass use without blinking an eye.
  33. Sige
    Sige 21 December 2017 21: 38 New
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    It is time to curtail flights of Malaysian, Dutch, Australian, Ukrainian and British companies in the airspace of the Russian Federation.
    At least until the end of the "investigation."
  34. Ratmir_Ryazan
    Ratmir_Ryazan 21 December 2017 21: 55 New
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    These devils from MI6 provided at least some evidence ?! Or offer to take their word for it ?!
    1. LeonidL
      LeonidL 22 December 2017 06: 04 New
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      Pay attention to the dictionary of liberals in Russia, for example Ksyusha. The main thing is to close your eyes with your eyes shut - “As everyone knows ...” Why even after this proof? Than English teachers and others are better than Russian learners.
  35. Andrew
    Andrew 21 December 2017 23: 50 New
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    James Bond must have investigated
  36. cormorant
    cormorant 22 December 2017 00: 09 New
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    They fired from Red Square ...
    1. LeonidL
      LeonidL 22 December 2017 06: 02 New
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      Personally, Putin suggested !!!
  37. LeonidL
    LeonidL 22 December 2017 06: 02 New
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    The main thing is to crow and "correctly" on time ... and there, even though the grass does not grow ...
  38. Alexey-74
    Alexey-74 22 December 2017 09: 19 New
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    Here is the answer .... look for those responsible for the Mi-6 and the CIA - they are the organizers.
  39. gukoyan
    gukoyan 22 December 2017 11: 40 New
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    Oh, these tales, oh, these storytellers)
    The test tube still needs to be shaken and then everyone will believe)))
  40. Slam
    Slam 23 December 2017 17: 17 New
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    And the Korean Boeing was not shot down, and they called to Afghanistan, and they did not bring missiles to Cuba, and they called to Czechoslovakia. And Finland itself attacked the USSR. Russians, you are so truthful!
    1. ul_vitalii
      ul_vitalii 23 December 2017 17: 27 New
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      Precisely jumped. Everything that you listed was done in the USSR by your parents and grandparents, and you, we dug the sea.
  41. Slam
    Slam 23 December 2017 21: 28 New
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    Quote: ul_vitalii
    Precisely jumped. Everything that you listed was done in the USSR by your parents and grandparents, and you, we dug the sea.

    Very correctly said. I realized everything and ran to the priest to repent.