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The City of Knights and Porcelain: A Date With Meissen (Part 1)

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When you are abroad, it is hardly a mistake to say that you are always in temporary time pressure there. Even if you travel by yourself. Well, if a tourist bus awaits you, and there are 40 such travelers in it as you yourself, and even a guide, every now and then counting everyone on their heads, then you will certainly appreciate time. It was the same on that day. First by bus to Dresden, where the whole Dresden Art Gallery and Armory I got the ward for only two hours, and then again on the bus and ... moving to Meissen. And there we were offered a choice: either a visit to the factory for the production of porcelain and a museum with him, or four hours in the city on their own. We chose the latter because we managed to see enough of the local porcelain in one of the galleries of the Dresden Art Gallery, and secondly, because the plant, it is also a plant in Africa. But the city is a city. And finally the plant left, and the four of us - my wife, daughter, granddaughter and I, remained in the middle of the city and went to study it.



Meissen city on a photographic postcard 1900

Before that, I read on the Web that this city seems to be very warm, cozy and really fabulous for tourists. And this, as it turned out, the way it is. And now the advice is the first among many tips: many travel agencies have an alternative excursion to Meissen, so if they offer it to you, then by no means refuse it.

The City of Knights and Porcelain: A Date With Meissen (Part 1)

Coat of Meissen.

Well, and there it says that Meissen is the oldest city of Saxony, and that it is more than a thousand years old. From Dresden to him just 25 km, and since the roads are perfect there, you can reach it in half an hour. The town itself is reminiscent of a “town in a snuffbox”, and only 27,5 thousand people live in it. Nevertheless, this city is very interesting in all respects. Started it история from the fact that in 929, the German king Henry I the Bird-catchers built the castle and palace of Misnia here. Then, as usual, a settlement of German and Jewish merchants appeared around it, a traditional Market Square appeared, and around it stone houses with benches on the first floor.


View of the city from behind the Elbe, modern view.

At the end of the 15th and beginning of the 16th centuries, the castle was rebuilt and the Margraves of Meissen were rebuilt by the brothers Ernst and Albrecht Wettin. On behalf of one of them, he got his name Albrechtsburg.


Market Square and Town Hall with a tiled roof area 13 thousand square meters!

Since 1710, the first porcelain factory in Europe has settled in the city, where decorative porcelain and tableware are still produced today. There is the Church of Our Lady, in which 37 unique porcelain bells are hung, installed on its bell tower in 1929, in honor of Meissen's 1000 anniversary. And this is the first case in the world when such bells hang on the church belfry, and they also play a pleasant melody several times a day: in 6: 30, 8: 30, 11: 30, 14: 30, 17: 30, 20: 30 hours local time.


The building of the city museum.

The town is so small that, going literally at random, we almost immediately found ourselves near the city museum, located in the Gothic cathedral. Can you imagine how you can arrange a museum in such a cathedral? On the walls there are mezzanines on which the exhibits are placed, some of them are exhibited in the tower, and others - in my opinion the most interesting, in a small chamber courtyard. The director of the museum (he turned out to be both the caretaker and cashier!) Turned out to be a Pole, my age mate, who speaks Russian perfectly, and we talked to him very interestingly. They touched upon the topic of non-traditional oriented ones, and he told me that this was not accepted here. Munich, Berlin is “yes”, but here ... Here you will not even see a single immigrant. “Not everything is as simple as our and your newspapers write about it,” he said. They remembered the past, and found that much in it was good, but it was also bad. Now, for example, the fact that he, a Pole, works in Germany, receiving a pension from Poland, does not surprise anyone - they pay more here, but earlier he would have been unable to think about it. In Soviet times, he visited Leningrad, where his friend lived, so that Russia turned out to be a country familiar to him. In addition to what he saw with us then, he added only one thing: “You’d have to tidy up a little ... In the sense of cleanliness!” Then I told him that today our highways don’t yield to the same Polish roads, except fences along our roads are not yet solid. Suddenly, the movie “Four Tankmen and a Dog” was remembered from somewhere and even sang a couplet from “The Song of Telegraphists” for a couple, which the director simply touched and liked him very much. After that, I could shoot already with a flash, and without a flash, which we immediately tried to use.


Cathedral Museum - mezzanine with exhibits.

Interestingly, the museum as a whole turned out to be very small, but extremely modern. And, I would say - exhaustive. It is clear that I was primarily interested in weapons and it turned out to be quite enough in it, but the main "gift of Fate" was waiting for me in the gallery of the courtyard. Effigias were exhibited there - tombstones of the XNUMXth century with very well-preserved images of knights buried under them in armor of that time. Before that, I had only drawings of English effigies of this time, now Meissen ones were added to my collection.


It was nice, for example, to see such reconstructions of 16th century dresses.


Any museum only benefits if it contains not only artifacts, but also their modern replicas. For example, such as this sword.


Impressive, though not very catchy at first glance, the exhibits: a helmet-clef, a pointed sword, arrows to the crossbow, a shield-pavez for the rider and the handle of a battle scourge.


And the sallet here is simply amazing - with some stiffening ribs on the back of the head for some reason. Why were they made there? What's the point of this? Of course, we will never know, but it is so nice to stand and see not just a serial, but a kind of unique old thing, the features of which are not described anywhere, and you noticed them first. That is, most likely, this sallet is not an infantryman at all, but a noble knight (which, by the way, his edging made of twisted metal also speaks about), and once this helmet was included in his plate set, but he for some reason not preserved!


Another pre-face sallet with a flat glove. German sallets or “salle”, as the French called them, differed from their foreign counterparts with an elongated rear “tail”.


The real morion. Not very beautiful, but ... "from there", from the past. Both infantrymen and horsemen used this type of helmet. Marines - musketeers and pikemen, later only pikemen, but the horsemen who wore such helmets could be horse arquebusiers, and pistol guns and German “black latniks”. Usually such helmets are shown to us in the film versions of William Shakespeare, and now this is just very correct.


Plate glove and typical Western European mail of the XVI century. Interestingly, such plate gloves were in use until the end of the Thirty Years War, and during the Civil War in England they were used both by Cromwell’s “iron-sided” ones and by cavaliers.


In the Dresden Armory, the wheeled pistols are gilded. These are decorated more simply. However, they, as you see, are decorated with details and inlays of bone. And in exactly the same way, a powder flask with a dispenser is framed with carved bone.


Below - dag - dagger for the left hand. And above - klevtsy, with which the horsemen of the Thirty Years' War at full tilt pierced helmets and armors. As you can see, they have metal handles, so that the rider of the enemy could not cut them with the blade of a sword or broadsword. From the side, a metal plate extending from the striker is visible. This is a “clasp” similar to the one that we have on all the pens, for it such klevtsy were covered with wide leather belts so that they were always at hand.


Cavalry armor of the XVI century. Below - fastened tapule on the "most important part" of the man.


Having looked at the weapon exhibited in the museum (although it is not very much, it is represented by very interesting samples), we began to examine various household exhibits. They are also very, very interesting, and here, for example, one of them is a very nice little corner with a bed, bed heater and a chamber pot. The bed is short because in the Middle Ages and up to the XVIII century, people thought that it was necessary to sleep half-sitting, because if you lie, then you can “suddenly die”!


Well, these are samples of children's clothes and delightful “Nuremberg figures” - flat, cast in tin and hand-painted with oil paints. It was quite expensive toys, which even if you were given, then you had to protect them.

Downstairs, we found ourselves in a cool courtyard and a corridor surrounding it. In it were stone tombstones, on which were carved ... images of knights!

To be continued ...
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  1. Dalailama
    Dalailama 27 December 2017 06: 23
    +1
    The figures are flat, under the bed there is a pot without a lid, oh this remake!
    1. kalibr
      27 December 2017 08: 09
      +5
      Why flat remake figures?
  2. XII Legion
    XII Legion 27 December 2017 06: 26
    16
    I like traveling to museums
    Everything seems to breathe history
    Probably just a pot under the bed - and a remake)
  3. parusnik
    parusnik 27 December 2017 07: 35
    +7
    After Bettger invented porcelain in 1710, the Albrechtsubg fortress began to guard the first porcelain production in Europe with Betger. Although at the beginning Bettger wanted to get a philosopher's stone for gold ... but he got porcelain, which became the gold of Saxony ...
    1. Curious
      Curious 27 December 2017 11: 55
      +7
      By the way, the discovery of European porcelain is perhaps one of the first experiments of the beneficial influence of the “sharazhka” on the work of inventors and scientists. Since Bettger did not work hard enough on the philosopher's stone, devoting much more time to wine and cheerful ladies than to scientific work, the Saxon Kurfürst and Polish king Augustus, who was in great need of money, arrested Bettger in 1701 and thus organized one of the first " sharazhek ".
      In 1704, Böttger was transferred to the Königstein fortress in Saxony Switzerland, where he was under the supervision of the commandant, Count E.V. von Chirngauz, a well-known mathematician, physicist, mineralogist and owner of a glass factory who worked on the creation of artificial marble and porcelain. It was their joint efforts in 1708 that led to the emergence of European solid porcelain. And they released Bettger from the “sharazhka” already in 1714, moreover, under close supervision, since the secret of china was a lot of money.
      Probably Lavrenty Palych knew this story and creatively applied it during the Soviet era.
      1. parusnik
        parusnik 27 December 2017 12: 41
        +4
        Perfectly complemented ...
      2. Mikado
        Mikado 27 December 2017 15: 33
        +7
        And they released Bettger from the “sharazhka” already in 1714, moreover, under close supervision, since the secret of china was a lot of money.

        The founder of domestic porcelain, Dmitry Vinogradov, was also almost kept on the chain. He stood at the origins of the porcelain factory, which bore the name of Lomonosovsky, now - the Imperial (its products, by my standards - are expensive. Decent, is considered "good form" hi ) It is a pity, only the name of Vinogradov himself is almost never immortalized, but his image created by Oleg Menshikov in the cinema is remembered. soldier
        1. parusnik
          parusnik 27 December 2017 21: 10
          +4
          My friend .. here is about Vinogradov, I wanted to write in the commentary to the second part, it’s about porcelain there .. And you like that, they removed the language in advance ... smile hi That's what tepericha write, I can not imagine ... smile
          1. Mikado
            Mikado 27 December 2017 21: 57
            +3
            That's what tepericha write, I can’t imagine ... smile

            as they were going, only supplemented and corrected! drinks I'm sure you will succeed hi
            1. parusnik
              parusnik 28 December 2017 07: 20
              +1
              ... let's mark it ... smile
  4. Horseman without a head
    Horseman without a head 27 December 2017 08: 50
    17
    Created the Museums of the World folder
    And waiting for similar articles
    Abruptly
    ATP
    1. kalibr
      27 December 2017 11: 31
      +3
      There will be more materials. And in the summer I will travel again through Poland, Slovenia, Hungary and Croatia, and see the museums there.
      1. Horseman without a head
        Horseman without a head 27 December 2017 12: 42
        17
        Super!
        We will wait with the booty!
  5. marline
    marline 27 December 2017 10: 23
    +4
    Thank you for the article. Wonderful photos.
    The bed is short because in the Middle Ages and up to the XNUMXth century, people believed that you should sleep half-sitting, because if you lie, you can "suddenly die"!

    I remember how surprised I was when I saw Alexey Mikhailovich’s bed — wide, but short, even square. The bedside table pleased, but for some reason there is no chest.
    1. Reptiloid
      Reptiloid 27 December 2017 11: 46
      +2
      Petr had short beds and high pillows. Why did you think about the possibility of death? They ate late, for a long time, drank, and went to bed before the time interval ... someone died. So the reasons are quite medical. But ---- medical details
      1. marline
        marline 27 December 2017 11: 54
        +3
        Quote: Reptiloid
        So the reasons are quite medical. But ---- medical details

        After a hearty dinner,
        By the law of Archimedes,
        It’s supposed to sleep.
        Apparently the details can be found only from those doctors who are against the quiet hour.
        1. Reptiloid
          Reptiloid 27 December 2017 12: 36
          +1
          Archimedes didn’t say anything about drinking, and it’s not a quiet hour, there was lunch turning into dinner. As Pikul described. How many changes were there, dishes, then. This is not the first second, third, as it is now. 7-9-12 changes ..... I forgot. And after all, the dishes, which can be seen in museums, corresponded to these changes.
          And the details are now at the district and gastroenterologists. The main thing is to ask what will happen if so many, at least 7 changes, gobble up, drink and go to bed soon .....
          1. marline
            marline 27 December 2017 12: 50
            +1
            Quote: Reptiloid
            And there is not a quiet hour, there was lunch turning into dinner. As Pikul described ....

            Hmmmm .... how would it be softer ... read less Pikul ...
            Here, for example, Alexei Mikhailovich:
            The most uncomplicated dishes were usually placed on the table of Aleksey Mikhailovich: buckwheat porridge, rye rug, a jug of wine (of which he consumed less than a cup), oatmeal brew or light malt beer with the addition of cinnamon oil (or just cinnamon water)

            After lunch - a quiet hour.
            And here is Pyotr Alekseevich:
            The traditional dinner of Peter, according to the associate of Emperor A. Nartov, consisted of thick hot sour cabbage soup, porridge, jelly, cold piglet in sour cream (served entirely and the sovereign himself chose a piece according to his mood), cold roast (most often duck) with pickles or salted lemons, ham and Limburg cheese.

            And after lunch - a quiet hour.
            Quote: Reptiloid
            How many changes, dishes, mean. This is not the first second, third, as it is now. 7-9-12 changes .....

            These are royal feasts!
      2. Mikado
        Mikado 27 December 2017 12: 37
        +3
        in the Menshikov Palace, Dmitry, half-sitting bed for sleeping. As soon as people did not scoff at themselves, proceeding from the wishes of the Good doctors at that time! request
        It was nice, for example, to see such reconstructions of 16th century dresses.

        I would not go to such ports ... negative thank the progress and personally Leibu Strauss for the invention of jeans! drinks
        1. marline
          marline 27 December 2017 12: 58
          +1
          Quote: Mikado
          I would not go to such ports ... negative

          If it were still portki !!! In the photo on the male mannequin, stockings with strings! some shame ... laughing
          1. Mikado
            Mikado 27 December 2017 13: 01
            +3
            Now in such only a gay parade laughing ahead of the line, with the banner to go! fellow and then - nothing went, it was fashionable. Judging by the fur - expensive clothes drinks
            1. marline
              marline 27 December 2017 13: 15
              +3
              Quote: Mikado
              Now in such only a gay parade laughing ahead of the line, with the banner to go!

              With a banner) among the knights - it was called a banner. Now naturally rainbow b. it should be.
              Quote: Mikado
              fellow and then - nothing went, it was fashionable. Judging by the fur - expensive clothes drinks

              And meanwhile, in the Middle Ages capital punishment relied on sodomy. And the criminal prosecution was canceled for the first time in the USSR, then the state was progressive! So that...
              True, they returned it later, thanks to Comrade Stalin, and rightly so ...
              1. Mikado
                Mikado 27 December 2017 13: 20
                +3
                With a banner) among the knights - it was called a banner.

                I don’t imagine a knight in armor and helmet, but naked, ahead of such a "parade" laughing
                and furs, both then and now, were expensive. EMNIP, was the royal decree of the century in the 17th, commanded to keep the route to Mangazeya secret from foreigners. So that the impudent Saxons do not sniff out and arrive there by sea. For furs! I can be wrong .. what
                1. marline
                  marline 27 December 2017 13: 32
                  +2
                  Quote: Mikado
                  and furs, both then and now, were expensive. EMNIP, was the royal decree of the century in the 17th, commanded to keep the route to Mangazeya secret from foreigners. So that the impudent Saxons do not sniff out and arrive there by sea. For furs! I can be wrong .. what

                  Yes, no, right.
                  1. Mikado
                    Mikado 27 December 2017 13: 42
                    +2
                    thank God! hi And then, you see, Victor Nikolaevich (Kuryos) would have “corrected” me so that then I would have to solder vodka for half a day wink drinks
                    1. Curious
                      Curious 27 December 2017 14: 29
                      +2
                      "... commanded to keep the route to Mangazeya secret from foreigners."
                      The sea passage to Mangazeya was banned in 1619.
                      Pomeranian peasants were forbidden not only to drag along the Kara Sea (the Mutnaya River) to the Gulf of Ob (the Zelenaya River), but also to show the way to foreign ships under pain of death. It is believed that the royal court thereby emphasized its negative attitude towards the access of Western European trading companies to the Siberian fur market. However, the desire of the central and Siberian tsarist administrations to stop the peasants, who, using the inaccessible sea route, disappeared obscurely in the Mangazeyan taiga and tundra, fleeing the bondage of the landowner and treasury, was no less important. The Mangazeya sea passage became dangerous especially in those years when the return runaways of “working people” from exorbitant hardships began during the construction of fiber roads from Surgut to Makovsky prison and further to the Yenisei.
                      The prohibition to use the old sea road to Siberia undermined the welfare of the settlements and large villages of Pomor. After 1619, the Ust-Tsylymskaya Sloboda, Pustozersky Ostrog, etc., which had flourished earlier on this trade route, died out.
                      Mangazeya herself became ill, having existed for about 70 years. This time was enough to destroy the sable (up to 100 pelts were extracted annually). An example of a thoughtless and predatory attitude towards natural resources.
                      1. Mikado
                        Mikado 27 December 2017 15: 22
                        +2
                        This time was enough to destroy the sable (up to 100 pelts were extracted annually). An example of a thoughtless and predatory attitude towards natural resources.

                        I am not a specialist in furs, but it seems that the fur on mannequins is sable? what
                        mastered some places, then, as the sable descended, they moved on. Previously, furs were valued. Soon the same will happen with oil and gas - as you say, a predatory attitude. People do not change, only what they need from nature at a particular moment changes request
        2. Reptiloid
          Reptiloid 27 December 2017 12: 59
          +1
          Not only in Menshikovsky. So Pikul described the feast of Anna Ioannovna. The main thing is that the expense records of different kings are preserved. So after all the queens changed clothes during such a long feast. Why? Hi, Nikolai.
          About portki .... what kind of sulfides .... lightning, just the greatest invention, I also forgot, or rather didn’t know, we’ve put something down on it, the underpants of the tunnel?
          1. Mikado
            Mikado 27 December 2017 13: 02
            +2
            Hello! drinks I remember that Elizabeth didn’t put on the same dress twice .. I’m afraid to imagine the budget expenses for this folly! request
          2. kalibr
            27 December 2017 15: 48
            +3
            Down, Dmitry wore a bra - nobles (or linen) made of silk, all others - linen. They looked like wide and long underpants. At the bottom they had suspenders, with which the lower ends were pulled to the belt when putting on the stocking pants - the bosses. They could protrude from them at the top, so they covered themselves with a long caftan, and the bosses stuck out from under it. Moreover, the highways didn’t stitch together at first !, then they began to stitch at the back, and in the front a folding codpiece appeared at the ties. Then the valve - used for a very long time, on marine trousers right up to the 1914 of the year, and then ... Here I am no longer an expert. I read about it with Sobolev "Overhaul".
            1. Reptiloid
              Reptiloid 27 December 2017 17: 56
              +1
              The artist Fragonard ----- painting "catch!". There these clothes really interfere with the guy! Yes, damn gate valve! However, it symbolizes something else! The girl !!!!!
            2. 3x3zsave
              3x3zsave 27 December 2017 22: 28
              +3
              I don’t know how now, but in Soviet times in the Navy there were valves on trousers, or valves.
        3. 3x3zsave
          3x3zsave 27 December 2017 21: 59
          +3
          Even as you become! Somehow, I’ll write a “steam-punk” essay and bring you out as the main character. Why am I not Lukyanenko ?!
          1. Mikado
            Mikado 27 December 2017 22: 48
            +2
            Somehow, I’ll write a “steam-punk” essay and bring you out as the main character. Why am I not Lukyanenko ?!

            Steampunk Reptiloid? belay nobody wrote about this yet! what Gold mine, Anton! fellow good
  6. Some kind of compote
    Some kind of compote 27 December 2017 14: 08
    18
    Great article good
    Author - with the initiative of a new series
  7. Curious
    Curious 27 December 2017 15: 32
    +4
    "Well, it also says that Meissen is the oldest city in Saxony and that it is more than a thousand years old. It is only 25 km from Dresden, and since the roads are perfect there, you can get to it in half an hour."
    And it’s better to do it in 2 hours on a ship. The largest fleet of wheeled steamers in the world has the Dresden Shipping Company. It consists of nine ships built in 1879-1929. All of them are still in operation. Moreover, these are naturally steamboats with a steam engine.
    Ticket - 11 euros.
    Sit in a restaurant, drink local wine, have a snack, enjoy the views. The beauty.
    1. 3x3zsave
      3x3zsave 27 December 2017 22: 26
      +2
      Cool !!! But crowded. Can I have a steam boat?
      1. Curious
        Curious 27 December 2017 22: 40
        +4
        There are no boats, but you can buy a ship, I guess. 160 tickets for 11 euros, minus 12% discount for a group of more than 70 people = 1550 euros. And enjoy yourself.
        1. Mikado
          Mikado 27 December 2017 23: 10
          +3
          There are no boats, but you can buy a ship, I guess. 160 tickets for 11 euros, minus 12% discount for a group of more than 70 people = 1550 euros. And enjoy yourself.

          if Barin of All Russia decides to shoot the continuation of "Sunstroke", he should be recommended. You see, cheaper than Lake Constance will succeed. negative
        2. 3x3zsave
          3x3zsave 28 December 2017 09: 07
          +2
          This is unsportsmanlike and very “a la russ” (in a negative sense). "Le gulyaem !!!" Gypsies, bears, Nadezhda Babkina and Kirkorov on backing vocals.
  8. kalibr
    27 December 2017 21: 14
    +3
    Quote: merlin
    And meanwhile, in the Middle Ages capital punishment relied on sodomy.

    In France, burning at the stake, in Holland the execution by the sword, but in England - execution on the stairs. The naked man had his stomach cut, his intestines removed and burned before his eyes. Then they scuttled, and chopped off hands, feet and head and sent parts to the cities!
    1. Horseman without a head
      Horseman without a head 27 December 2017 21: 26
      16
      What a horror
      Gutting was called
      If I am not mistaken?
      1. kalibr
        28 December 2017 08: 01
        0
        It was called just the "ladder", such a touching effemism!
    2. 3x3zsave
      3x3zsave 27 December 2017 22: 13
      +1
      Sometimes I wonder if the current Arab radicals are humanists?
      1. Horseman without a head
        Horseman without a head 27 December 2017 22: 23
        17
        Of all the animals, they are the most sophisticated
        And God forbid if Europe is completely flooded
        And then there will be nowhere to ride
        1. Mikado
          Mikado 27 December 2017 23: 11
          +3
          And God forbid if Europe is completely flooded
          And then there will be nowhere to ride

          I’m not afraid, I prefer Belarus. wink They are not there! drinks but tasty food!
          1. 3x3zsave
            3x3zsave 28 December 2017 07: 47
            +3
            Yeah, "island of stability and prosperity." It’s just that the daddy’s father didn’t offer to bring migrants in exchange for political bonuses.
          2. Horseman without a head
            Horseman without a head 29 December 2017 11: 54
            15
            Tip is super! wink
            I'll take it into service drinks
        2. 3x3zsave
          3x3zsave 28 December 2017 09: 33
          +1
          Read the "Notre Dame Mosque" by E. Chudinova. The dystopian novel was written in 2005.
    3. 3x3zsave
      3x3zsave 27 December 2017 22: 24
      +2
      Vyacheslav Olegovich, but what did you do with pi ....., sorry, gay Aztecs?
      1. Curious
        Curious 27 December 2017 22: 46
        +4
        I think that they were used for their intended purpose. In any case, in Guatemala, in the cave of Nakh-Tunich, in the Mayan language - "stone house", on the walls among the erotic scenes there is also a homosexual.

        These are ancient murals, a UNESCO site, no indecency.
        1. Mikado
          Mikado 27 December 2017 23: 15
          +2
          what, however, a lascivious smile on the face of the left ... wink laughing Incidentally, it has not been proved that on the right is a man, not a woman, because neither primary nor secondary is visible! stop and why did you get the idea that they are "this-that"? Mauger, old friends who have not seen each other for a long time hug after a bath to celebrate ?! request drinks
          1. Curious
            Curious 27 December 2017 23: 29
            +2
            Scientists know better, it’s not my opinion, archaeologists, I didn’t look close, there wasn’t enough time.
            1. Mikado
              Mikado 27 December 2017 23: 32
              +4
              I didn’t look close, there was not enough time

              that is, you were in Guatemala? belay and how are the monkeys there? wink are you alive? drinks
              1. Curious
                Curious 28 December 2017 00: 17
                +2
                Unlike India, they do not engage in banditry, but live in the forest. So with the Guatemalan monkeys, everything is fine.
                1. Mikado
                  Mikado 28 December 2017 00: 31
                  +2
                  but they live in the forest.

                  yeah, and there is no high-voltage line nearby ... wink Joker, really Joker!drinks
                  1. Curious
                    Curious 28 December 2017 00: 56
                    +2
                    Everything is there, like a metallurgical plant without high-voltage wires.
                    1. Mikado
                      Mikado 28 December 2017 01: 09
                      +5
                      .. You don’t want to prepare a monumental article "Differences in Psychology and Social Organization in Wild Monkeys of the Old and New Worlds"? what Viktor Nikolaevich, such memoirs disappear !!!! fellow crying and if the philosophy of the bearded KarlMarx is still imposed on it, the Good Doctor will make himself an enema of envy! laughingdrinks You think, think! wink hi
          2. kalibr
            28 December 2017 08: 05
            +2
            Women did not wear such clothes on their heads, it was a privilege of men!
      2. Mikado
        Mikado 27 December 2017 23: 18
        +4
        Vyacheslav Olegovich, but what did you do with pi ....., sorry, gay Aztecs?

        they told us in the Dominican Republic about Taino (not the Aztecs, but still!) that they were deeply, in the Dominican style, violet with whom .. mm .. engage in obscenity ... laughing
      3. Curious
        Curious 28 December 2017 23: 48
        +3
        "... and what did you do with pi ....., sorry, gay Aztecs?"

        This is the source
        1. Curious
          Curious 28 December 2017 23: 49
          +3

          In the frame, a description of what was done with them (fagots).
          1. Mikado
            Mikado 29 December 2017 00: 52
            +4
            belay mmm .. tough. It would be necessary to tell fans of same-sex love, and the "rear-wheel drive" will bite their tongue! good Viktor Nikolaevich .. dear Viktor Nikolaevich .. it’s time, after all, to throw us cycles of articles! wink And the cycle "Through the ass to the throne" - even more so! We are all looking forward! drinks
  9. soldier
    soldier 27 December 2017 22: 06
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    Porcelain and soldiers - two "pieces" of Saxony
    Their persistence comes to mind during the Northern War - when, as part of the forces of Augustus the Great, they fought against the Swedes. Then the best fighters of Europe.
    1. Mikado
      Mikado 27 December 2017 22: 53
      +3
      Their persistence comes to mind during the Northern War - when, as part of the forces of Augustus the Great, they fought against the Swedes. Then the best fighters of Europe.

      not really. stop With all due respect! drinks In the battle of the Russian-Saxon army against the Swedes at Fraustadt, the Saxons were extremely unstable. The battle was lost, after which the Russian prisoners were killed! And the captured Saxons .. were taken into the army of Karl! request
      As King Peter wrote to King Augustus, “not one (Russian - Mikado) read in full not taken, and from your Saxon troops no more than seven hundred people were beaten and only a great number was taken in full. " I have no words. Allies, damn it .. am
  10. abrakadabre
    abrakadabre 27 December 2017 23: 22
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    At the bottom is a tapul fastened onto the “most important part” of the man.
    Correction: not tapul, but codpiece. Tapul is a bulge in front of the bottom on the field of the cuirass itself. In exactly over the fastened codpiece.
    1. kalibr
      28 December 2017 07: 57
      +2
      And the truth ... the funniest thing I knew, even a folder is with the name and images of oval objects ... But the playful little hands brought out. Oh, I'm getting old right before our eyes.
  11. voyaka uh
    voyaka uh 28 December 2017 11: 31
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    Any museum only wins if it contains not only artifacts,
    but also their modern replicas "////

    I think so too. If in addition to the real arrowhead found -
    rusty and dented - to make a replica of the arrow itself with the shaft, and a replica of the bow,
    from which she was shot, then any museum will become lively, interesting and visited.
    History must be revived so that children and tourists are interested in it.