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The State Department explained why the US blocked the resolution on Jerusalem

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The adoption of the UN Security Council resolution on Jerusalem would do more harm than good, RIA News State Department spokesman Heather Nauert.




Nauert believes that voting on this issue led to an outbreak of violence in the region.

We don't want new hits,
she said.

According to the State Department spokesman, the United States "continues to work on peace talks on the Middle East."

Recall, on Monday, the UN Security Council considered a draft resolution on Jerusalem, put to a vote by Egypt on behalf of the Arab countries. The document recognizes as “null and void all decisions and actions aimed at changing the appearance, status and demographic composition of Jerusalem”. It also calls on all states to “refrain from opening diplomatic missions in this city in accordance with the requirement of the Council Resolution 478 (1980)”.

The US Permanent Representative voted against the adoption of the document, the remaining members of the Council supported the resolution. Palestinian Permanent Observer to the United Nations Riyad Mansour called the US actions to recognize Jerusalem as the capital of Israel "historical sin. ”
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  1. Jedi
    Jedi 20 December 2017 09: 55 New
    13
    Adoption of UN Security Council resolution on Jerusalem would do more harm

    Harm to whom? To Israel?
    1. olegfbi
      olegfbi 20 December 2017 10: 05 New
      +7
      Quote: Jedi
      Harm to whom? To Israel?

      Harm by usa ...
      In recent years, there has been a steady feeling that the United States deliberately "shakes" the situation at any point in the world that has turned up with it.
      Question - Why?
      Alternatively, strategically “bang” the dollar against the backdrop of the global crisis (political or military) and “forgive” everyone their debts. This is of course only one of the possible options.
      I personally do not believe in the stupidity of Americans.
      1. Going
        Going 20 December 2017 10: 09 New
        10
        Palestinian Permanent Observer to the United Nations, Riyad Mansour, called US actions to recognize Jerusalem as the capital of Israel "historical sin."


        Not the first and it seems not the last.
        1. neri73-r
          neri73-r 20 December 2017 10: 42 New
          +3
          Quote: Going
          Palestinian Permanent Observer to the United Nations, Riyad Mansour, called US actions to recognize Jerusalem as the capital of Israel "historical sin."

          Not the first and it seems not the last.


          The believer commits sins, and the representatives of the devil on the planet do not commit sins, they live like that! hi This applies to both those who blocked the resolution, and those in whose interests they blocked.
          1. Strips
            Strips 20 December 2017 11: 40 New
            +2
            Blessed is he who believes.
      2. INVESTOR
        INVESTOR 20 December 2017 10: 24 New
        +2
        This option is very real. The question is, what will the US assets transfer to dollar assets? Not in bitcoin,
        1. Serhiodjan
          Serhiodjan 21 December 2017 04: 25 New
          0
          Perhaps you are a visionary. I won’t be surprised if they end up with more than half of all bitcoins, and with allies they will get 80 percent at all. They will collapse the dollar and kill two birds with one stone: they will write off debts and enter the world currency that they will own. We saw that the dollar was in danger of collapse and started to download something completely ephemeral ...
      3. Sergey53
        Sergey53 20 December 2017 10: 33 New
        0
        Quote: olegfbi
        Alternatively, strategically “bang” the dollar against the backdrop of the global crisis (political or military) and “forgive” everyone their debts

        Or amid constant instability, make money on the constant demand for weapons.
      4. nikolaev
        nikolaev 20 December 2017 11: 54 New
        +2
        the collapse of the US is just around the corner. Representatives of different nations were forcibly and freely included in the United States in various ways (even often opposite), and they were united after many squabbles for a short period of time with the so-called American dream and better living conditions at the expense of other countries.
        Now the American dream and wealth have been sprayed into the basements of the Fed and the pockets of its owners, and the United States does not hold anything together, but only separates the lack of democracy and freedom, the poverty of the vast majority of the population, which is different and opposed by nationality.
        Previously, wars came to the rescue as a source of wealth and unification by robbery, but now everyone can see that the owners of democracy earn money from the wars, all the rest are left behind, and therefore an ever smaller number of scumbags want to fight, let alone fight for the welfare of clans that own the United States. To fight in Africa against half-naked poor people - wherever you go, and where you have to die, as in Vietnam there are no bad people - and this is what the American elites carefully hide. Arabs have been lured, but they also seem to be seeing.
    2. 79807420129
      79807420129 20 December 2017 10: 06 New
      13
      Nauert is sure that voting on this issue led to an outbreak of violence in the region

      This miracle in feathers seems to have surpassed Zhenya Psaki and Samantha Power put together by stupidity. what Now in Palestine, such a "quiet and grace" mom do not grieve. laughing
      1. Jedi
        Jedi 20 December 2017 10: 09 New
        +8
        Turning things upside down is a long-standing US hobby. sad
      2. Tramp1812
        Tramp1812 20 December 2017 10: 24 New
        +5
        On Shabbat, the silence is such that you can’t hear the squeak of a mosquito. But on weekdays - yes, really music, it is lively on the streets and boulevards, life is in full swing. This is me, as an eyewitness I say. Well, I didn’t see what was behind the fence. But driving along it, I heard nothing. Soundproofing is cool. All the same, Israel is a country of advanced technologies. Unlike others .... drinks
        1. 79807420129
          79807420129 20 December 2017 10: 39 New
          +8
          Quote: Rogue1812
          On Shabbat, the silence is such that you can’t hear the squeak of a mosquito. But on weekdays - yes, really music, it is lively on the streets and boulevards, life is in full swing. This is me, as an eyewitness I say

          We believe the eyewitness yes drinks hi Yes, and thank God. good
          Quote: Rogue1812
          All the same, Israel is a country of advanced technologies. Unlike others ....

          Here toss you Chubais laughing laughing drinks hi
        2. Dym71
          Dym71 20 December 2017 11: 05 New
          +2
          Quote: Rogue1812
          On Shabbat, silence is such that you can’t hear the squeak of a mosquito

          Well, mosquitoes on the Promised Land! Do you really have mosquitoes too, tavoyt .... in the sense of gravitating to the Jewish faith? belay
          Quote: Rogue1812
          All the same, Israel is a country of advanced technologies.

          Indeed! In our country, a Lefty was a shoe for a flea, and in Israel, proboscis were sharpened for all mosquitoes!
          Or maybe we didn’t have Lefty at all, but Levsha, what do you think? smile
          1. brigadir
            brigadir 20 December 2017 12: 29 New
            +3
            The mosquitoes in Israel are all circumcised. In the best traditions.
    3. Strips
      Strips 20 December 2017 10: 10 New
      +5
      Peace process.
      This was at least a check of Muslim countries - whether they can accept Jerusalem as the capital of Israel in any borders (Trump’s speech and explanations clearly say that there is no talk about all of Jerusalem or that East is also the capital of Israel).

      Muslim countries cannot even accept the presence of the capital of Jerusalem with Israel.

      Now, when the Arab countries are in a coalition with Israel against Iran and its Hezbollah terrorists, the only chance for the start of peace negotiations between Jews and Arabs is at least with the Arabs realizing the right of the Jews to at least a part of Jerusalem.

      A US audit showed that not only Muslim countries, but also others, can not go beyond their inert thinking about the Arab-Israeli conflict.

      After all, Trump said, and so understandable thing - Jerusalem will be the capital of Israel anyway. He didn’t even define the border - he simply said what it really is, and a bunch of countries bombarded right away ..

      Although it is worth saying that part of the Muslim countries agree with Trump’s decision, they simply cannot publicly voice it, as this will hit their authority in the Muslim world.
      1. The Siberian barber
        The Siberian barber 20 December 2017 10: 39 New
        0
        List in the studio!))
        By chance, did not hear about plans to create a gambling zone in Mecca ??
        1. Strips
          Strips 20 December 2017 11: 28 New
          +2
          Quote: The Siberian Barber
          List in the studio!))


          Saudi Arabia and others.
      2. neri73-r
        neri73-r 20 December 2017 10: 47 New
        +2
        Although it is worth saying that part of the Muslim countries agree with Trump’s decision, they simply cannot publicly voice it, as this will hit their authority in the Muslim world.


        Are you talking about Saudi Arabia? So this Muslim democracy with Israel has been playing cards together for a long time, love there is a hickey.
        1. Strips
          Strips 20 December 2017 11: 27 New
          +2
          Quote: neri73-r
          Are you talking about Saudi Arabia? So this Muslim democracy with Israel has been playing cards together for a long time, love there is a hickey.


          And Saudi Arabia as well.
          There are no marked cards there. The connection between Israel and Saudi Arabia against Shiite terror is understandable.
          1. neri73-r
            neri73-r 20 December 2017 11: 44 New
            +2
            There are no marked cards there. The connection between Israel and Saudi Arabia against Shiite terror is understandable.

            But what about human rights, the absence of democracy, and so on, have you attributed this to Assad and others to bomb? Or is everything okay with the Saudis in this regard? Huh? Where is trump with bombs ?????????????
            1. Strips
              Strips 20 December 2017 13: 12 New
              0
              Quote: neri73-r
              Or is everything okay with the Saudis in this regard? Huh? Where is trump with bombs ?????????????


              And where about Iran and Assad, Russia?
              I remember Russia accused Saudi Arabia of terrorism, and then suddenly we went to each other, already military contracts, good relations wink

              The United States is constantly releasing a report on Saudi Arabia, which openly talks about problems there with democracy and others. Read US Annual Human Rights Report Worldwide
              1. neri73-r
                neri73-r 20 December 2017 16: 02 New
                +1
                The United States is constantly releasing a report on Saudi Arabia, which openly talks about problems there with democracy and others. Read US Annual Human Rights Report Worldwide

                I'm talking about bombs, not about the report !!! stop
                And where about Iran and Assad, Russia?
                I remember Russia accused Saudi Arabia of terrorism, and then suddenly went to each other, already military contracts, good relations wink

                Stop, stop, Russia because of democracy and human rights, as well as the state system of countries (such as tyranny or democracy) did not bomb anyone, did not threaten and did not carry its world order on the wings of the Tamahawks !!!! love What can not be said about the great democracies such as the USA, France, Israel, and so on .. So where are the bombs for the Saudis ???? What, you are exceptional, there are no arguments, was blown away? tongue
    4. Tramp1812
      Tramp1812 20 December 2017 10: 59 New
      +1
      Nope. We are more satisfied than ever. We are cheerful, cheerful!
  2. Vard
    Vard 20 December 2017 09: 56 New
    +1
    It certainly seems to be like the historical homeland of the Jewish people ... On the other hand of these historical homelands in the world there is a cart and a small cart ... And bother now ... Many sorrows ...
    1. Tramp1812
      Tramp1812 20 December 2017 10: 43 New
      +4
      Well, we will not give Jerusalem to the stream of looting. Is it really unclear to anyone what is on the site, what is in the world, what else where, say on Alpha Centauri. And take "the sword" does not work. There is no such power in the world. Already so the USSR tried, tried so hard. And where is he now? Well, at least Russia has learned the lessons and Putin is an adequate person.
      I remember we left Gaza under the guaranteed promises of the West on a quiet border. "Such as between Belgium and Holland" -trendeli us. Received. After a couple of hours, the Arab gangsters from Hamas and just gangsters, plundered and destroyed all the greenhouses left by the Israelis, destroyed the infrastructure, began to kill their own Arabs. Gaza has become a living hell, primarily for the residents themselves. In short, Israel has nothing to talk about with this audience. Give them Jerusalem. And from a dead donkey do you need ears by chance?
      1. neri73-r
        neri73-r 20 December 2017 10: 56 New
        +3
        Quote: Rogue1812
        Well, we will not give Jerusalem to the stream of looting. Is it really unclear to anyone what is on the site, what is in the world, what else where, say on Alpha Centauri. And take "the sword" does not work. There is no such power in the world. Already so the USSR tried, tried so hard. And where is he now? Well, at least Russia has learned the lessons and Putin is an adequate person.
        I remember we left Gaza under the guaranteed promises of the West on a quiet border. "Such as between Belgium and Holland" -trendeli us. Received. After a couple of hours, the Arab gangsters from Hamas and just gangsters, plundered and destroyed all the greenhouses left by the Israelis, destroyed the infrastructure, began to kill their own Arabs. Gaza has become a living hell, primarily for the residents themselves. In short, Israel has nothing to talk about with this audience. Give them Jerusalem. And from a dead donkey do you need ears by chance?

        Well, do not wake famously while it is quiet (Russian proverb) !!! We haven’t taken it for you yet ourselves, tried a little bit through the Arabs, but of these specialists of this kind are bad, except that the Syrians went anywhere. Well you know well there, if we take up what we ourselves will surely succeed ....... We don’t need it ...... for now, I hope you won’t bring it.
        1. Strips
          Strips 20 December 2017 11: 29 New
          +1
          Quote: neri73-r
          if we take up what we ourselves will surely succeed ...


          Better to start in the car industry and roads wink
          1. neri73-r
            neri73-r 20 December 2017 11: 48 New
            +3
            Quote: Tiras
            Quote: neri73-r
            if we take up what we ourselves will surely succeed ...


            Better to start in the car industry and roads wink

            We started with tanks and planes, as well as from space, though we don’t forget nuclear submarines, and also because the great democracies cannot, including Israel, from the creation of plants for the processing of MOX fuel, both uranium and plutonium !!! tongue Are you weak? wassat About France is not necessary, there is babble, not processing. stop I'm talking about weapons grade plutonium.
            1. Strips
              Strips 20 December 2017 12: 41 New
              +2
              The main thing is that the great democracies can produce highly accurate machine tools and tools, as well as electronics, which the great Russian state never learned to do at the proper level, like so much more about technology, medicine and even drones hi

              This is sad indeed.
              1. neri73-r
                neri73-r 20 December 2017 13: 04 New
                +4
                Quote: Tiras
                The main thing is that the great democracies can produce highly accurate machine tools and tools, as well as electronics, which the great Russian state never learned to do at the proper level, like so much more about technology, medicine and even drones hi

                This is sad indeed.

                You tell this noodle to your fellow citizens and fellow tribesmen, we have heard it from the mid-80s until 1999 !!! So how is it with closed loop fuel? Huh? About technology in more detail, how is it with nuclear boats, planes, how is Merkava? wassat
                1. Strips
                  Strips 20 December 2017 13: 11 New
                  0
                  This “noodle” is reported by Russian ministers and reports regarding import substitution.
                  It is a pity that you are ready to blame others, but not to recognize reality.
                  1. neri73-r
                    neri73-r 20 December 2017 16: 12 New
                    +1
                    It is a pity that you are ready to blame others, but not to recognize reality.

                    What is the reality? Failure in the 90s was, but is now being restored. Medicine, so paid and we have not much worse, but every year a little, but it improves, about machine tools and tools, so this is nonsense, if we talk about industry, for example, the production line for NK-32-2 engines was restored, the second engine stages for PAK Fa have been done (you cannot), the nuclear industry is working, GPKR Zircon has been done (the West still cannot), etc. .. And if it’s about household tools, then as you like it is easier and cheaper, then our prettier and sleeker, but more expensive then western. Envy takes you and anger, that’s sprinkled with saliva, they did not give Russia to plunder! Yes, soon we’ll come to our place in the literal (to some) and figuratively (to the rest). Chancellor Otto von Bismarck warned some, did not listen.
          2. Tramp1812
            Tramp1812 20 December 2017 14: 13 New
            0
            If they start from there, then obviously they will not be up to Israel. Forever, moreover.
        2. Krasnodar
          Krasnodar 20 December 2017 13: 11 New
          -1
          Quote: neri73-r
          Quote: Rogue1812
          Well, we will not give Jerusalem to the stream of looting. Is it really unclear to anyone what is on the site, what is in the world, what else where, say on Alpha Centauri. And take "the sword" does not work. There is no such power in the world. Already so the USSR tried, tried so hard. And where is he now? Well, at least Russia has learned the lessons and Putin is an adequate person.
          I remember we left Gaza under the guaranteed promises of the West on a quiet border. "Such as between Belgium and Holland" -trendeli us. Received. After a couple of hours, the Arab gangsters from Hamas and just gangsters, plundered and destroyed all the greenhouses left by the Israelis, destroyed the infrastructure, began to kill their own Arabs. Gaza has become a living hell, primarily for the residents themselves. In short, Israel has nothing to talk about with this audience. Give them Jerusalem. And from a dead donkey do you need ears by chance?

          Well, do not wake famously while it is quiet (Russian proverb) !!! We haven’t taken it for you yet ourselves, tried a little bit through the Arabs, but of these specialists of this kind are bad, except that the Syrians went anywhere. Well you know well there, if we take up what we ourselves will surely succeed ....... We don’t need it ...... for now, I hope you won’t bring it.

          Of the Arabs, the best specialists are Jordanians - the British at one time dragged them. Syrians and Egyptians, according to Israeli veterans, are also not a gift, but much worse.
      2. Paranoid50
        Paranoid50 21 December 2017 00: 31 New
        +1
        Quote: Rogue1812
        Well, we will not give Jerusalem to the stream of looting.

        Come on, in this case everything is stolen up to you.
        Quote: Rogue1812
        After a couple of hours, the Arab gangsters from Hamas and just gangsters, looted and destroyed all the greenhouses left by the Israelis, destroyed the infrastructure, began to kill their own Arabs

        Well, as required. At least instructed them more thoroughly, or something. Sometimes Hamas specifically fights.yes
  3. AST507
    AST507 20 December 2017 09: 56 New
    +4
    Well, yes, yes ... They wanted the best, what’s called-“Adopting a UN Security Council resolution on Jerusalem would do more harm than good,”
    1. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 20 December 2017 11: 25 New
      +3
      Are you firmly convinced that you are for the UN?
      Yesterday, the UN General Assembly adopted a resolution recognizing
      Russian power "occupying Crimea."
      As it were, Russia and Israel are in the same boat, regarding UN decisions: two "occupiers."
      1. AST507
        AST507 20 December 2017 11: 53 New
        +3
        laughing Well, yes .... And for some reason we are at enmity with VO when you read some "commentators" here .... hi
      2. Tramp1812
        Tramp1812 20 December 2017 14: 18 New
        +1
        With the position of website assessors, everything is simple. Where the UN votes against the Russian Federation, the meeting is against the UN. But if it is against us, then the assessors also: against us and for the UN. If here in all seriousness they write that claims to the original Russian Ashgabat, Warsaw, Helsinki, etc. more grounded than Israel on Jerusalem, it remains only to relax and enjoy.
        1. Okolotochny
          Okolotochny 21 December 2017 00: 16 New
          +7
          Tramp, distort. Is this a national trait? For Helsinki, etc. screen bring conversations? It was just the opposite. One comrade with the nickname Tramp began to assure that, unlike the "enslaver of Russia", Israel took its ancestral lands. Tramps answered that according to the history of the Baltic states, Finland, SIBERIA (yes, Tramp and Siberia indicated as enslaved) in comparison with Jerusalem more claim to the title of primordial. Notice, no one has put forward claims for possession of Finland. In short, you are an arrogant liar and a troll.
  4. chidoryan
    chidoryan 20 December 2017 09: 59 New
    +7
    In order to understand whose Jerusalem to begin with, it is necessary to say what the word is, in what language, and what it means. Jerusalem is Jewish and nothing else.
    1. Shahno
      Shahno 20 December 2017 10: 09 New
      +2
      Yerush inheritance or inheritance in Hebrew.
    2. Ren
      Ren 20 December 2017 10: 21 New
      +7
      Quote: chidoryan
      In order to understand whose Jerusalem to begin with, it is necessary to say what the word is, in what language, and what it means. Jerusalem is Jewish and nothing else.

      Well, let's "touch up":
      In the Old Testament, the city is referred to as Salim.
      Salim - the name of the Tatar origin, means: healthy, with a pure soul, in good health.
      Rus - light (you can and Russian) wink
      Yeh is the name for this.
      What do we get?
      Jerusalem - This is the bright / Russian city of Tatarina Salim. bully
      1. chidoryan
        chidoryan 20 December 2017 10: 37 New
        +1
        You have Zadornov’s syndrome. He finished badly, tie it, before it's too late.
      2. voyaka uh
        voyaka uh 20 December 2017 11: 30 New
        +4
        "Well, let's think over: /////

        Pondering about Moscow? wink
        Mas - in Hebrew, "tax", "customs duty".
        Kavua - in Hebrew, "permanent."
        Mos qua = mas kavua. Those. Moscow - border customs
        Khazar Kaganate station. belay
        So, be careful with the Zadornov-Fomenkov tricks. laughing
        1. Gonchar
          Gonchar 20 December 2017 11: 40 New
          +1
          Quote: voyaka uh
          carefully with Zadornovo-Fomenkovsky tricks
          You are mistaken, it is well known that in Moscow they live and think differently, and it is there, opposite the whole of Russia - Mask in!
          1. Krasnodar
            Krasnodar 20 December 2017 13: 14 New
            0
            Quote: GonChar
            Quote: voyaka uh
            carefully with Zadornovo-Fomenkovsky tricks
            You are mistaken, it is well known that in Moscow they live and think differently, and it is there, opposite the whole of Russia - Mask in!

            Yes no, Musk Wah!
            1. Gonchar
              Gonchar 20 December 2017 13: 59 New
              +1
              Quote: Krasnodar
              Musk Wah!
              Any option !!!
        2. Ren
          Ren 20 December 2017 11: 46 New
          +1
          Quote: voyaka uh
          Pondering about Moscow?
          Mas - in Hebrew, "tax", "customs duty".

          Well, here you are and enlightened about Moscow - a city that constantly collects taxes for you know who you are. wassat
          And Salim is currently occupied by the same city. bully
          1. voyaka uh
            voyaka uh 20 December 2017 12: 12 New
            +2
            And the main headquarters of us - reptilians am - to Nibiru.
            There, all the gold is flocking on flying saucers. hi
            1. Ren
              Ren 20 December 2017 12: 18 New
              +2
              A credible trolling me! good
              PS And Ilon Mas' also collects taxes? lol
              1. voyaka uh
                voyaka uh 20 December 2017 12: 46 New
                +2
                But what about! Why do you think he builds rockets? -
                To take his loot to Nibiru. wassat
      3. A. Privalov
        A. Privalov 20 December 2017 11: 35 New
        +1
        Quote: Ren
        Quote: chidoryan
        In order to understand whose Jerusalem to begin with, it is necessary to say what the word is, in what language, and what it means. Jerusalem is Jewish and nothing else.

        Well, let's "touch up":
        In the Old Testament, the city is referred to as Salim.
        Salim - the name of the Tatar origin, means: healthy, with a pure soul, in good health.
        Rus - light (you can and Russian) wink
        Yeh is the name for this.
        What do we get?
        Jerusalem - This is the bright / Russian city of Tatarina Salim. bully

        I could agree with your evidence, if not for one BUT.
        Jerusalem already called By jerusalem, in honor of 2000 years (two thousand years, Max!) before the first mention of a people appeared that began on "rus".
        I don’t speak about the Tatar language at all, for this language is really quite young.
        1. neri73-r
          neri73-r 20 December 2017 11: 55 New
          0
          Jerusalem was already called Jerusalem, after almost 2000 years (two thousand years, Max!) Before the first mention of a certain people started on "Rus".


          Yes, yes, we have forgotten that the Russians (Slavs) are nowhere, so from the forests and pits came out in the 9 century of our era! wassat Yes, so that the 1 / 6 part of the sushi in the pose put and your (ancient), too, such as the Khazar Kaganate! negative
          1. A. Privalov
            A. Privalov 20 December 2017 12: 20 New
            +3
            Quote: neri73-r
            Jerusalem was already called Jerusalem, after almost 2000 years (two thousand years, Max!) Before the first mention of a certain people started on "Rus".


            Yes, yes, we have forgotten that the Russians (Slavs) are nowhere, so from the forests and pits came out in the 9 century of our era! wassat Yes, so that the 1 / 6 part of the sushi in the pose put and your (ancient), too, such as the Khazar Kaganate! negative

            Crawled out - crawled out, however, flies separately, and cutlets separately. Jerusalem was the capital of the Jewish people since the days of King David, more than 3000 years ago. Jerusalem in all respects is mentioned about 1000 times in the Old Testament and ZERO times in the Quran. Point.
            1. sogdy
              sogdy 20 December 2017 14: 51 New
              +1
              Quote: A. Privalov
              Jerusalem has been the capital of the Jewish people since King David,

              Vashcheta, no. Read carefully: Jews were only part of the people. Very small.
              And Jerusalem was the FIRST of cities that received INTERNATIONAL status - the capital of the Holy Land.
              Actually, you are trying to rewrite both history and the Bible (Old Testament).
              By the way, as for the Rus people, you are also mistaken by virtue of complete illiteracy. 4-3 thousand years ago the so-called "bats" - Buryats and other Evenki and Kamchadals. And the Chinese chronicles claim that they were called that for more than 10 thousand years.
              1. Gonchar
                Gonchar 20 December 2017 15: 04 New
                +2
                Quote: sogdy
                Read carefully: Jews were only part of the people
                What are you saying? And who was the other part, and which ?, and what kind of people? Attentive reader are you ours?
              2. Krasnodar
                Krasnodar 20 December 2017 15: 10 New
                0
                Quote: sogdy
                Quote: A. Privalov
                Jerusalem has been the capital of the Jewish people since King David,

                Vashcheta, no. Read carefully: Jews were only part of the people. Very small.
                And Jerusalem was the FIRST of cities that received INTERNATIONAL status - the capital of the Holy Land.
                Actually, you are trying to rewrite both history and the Bible (Old Testament).
                By the way, as for the Rus people, you are also mistaken by virtue of complete illiteracy. 4-3 thousand years ago the so-called "bats" - Buryats and other Evenki and Kamchadals. And the Chinese chronicles claim that they were called that for more than 10 thousand years.

                And who was the majority in the first city with international status? Batwing Evenks? :)))
                1. sogdy
                  sogdy 21 December 2017 14: 34 New
                  +1
                  Quote: Krasnodar
                  And who was the majority in the first city with international status?

                  1) In which languages ​​is the concept of "Jew" other than or not coinciding with the concept of "Jew"?
                  2) In Holy Jerusalem, the majority of the population were Christians of all faiths (and there are many) and Muslims. Jews are not marked in historical documents, Judaism ALREADY was not a world religion.
                  3) Well, they fought for the Holy Sepulcher no matter how not with the Jews, and not even against them. In general, the Jews there are no business.
            2. Okolotochny
              Okolotochny 21 December 2017 00: 23 New
              +5
              Alexander, and no one disputes the historical existence of Jerusalem. Just some comrades from Israel (does not apply to you) begin to argue their arguments and necessarily weave imperial Russia, which made everyone feel bad. One would like to say so, so what the hell are you writing and talking in the Mper language?
      4. Tramp1812
        Tramp1812 20 December 2017 14: 20 New
        0
        Slightly almost finished. It should turn out: "Tatar Stalin." And so - the flight of thought is impressive. Chess word.
  5. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 20 December 2017 10: 02 New
    +5
    It is clear that the United States simply had to block this resolution. Who will oppose themselves (their statements)
    And here is how and how the Americans will explain it
    The United States and Ukraine were the only countries that at a meeting of the UN General Assembly (GA) on Tuesday opposed the adoption of a resolution to combat the glorification of Nazism. ("Sight")
  6. aszzz888
    aszzz888 20 December 2017 10: 08 New
    +3
    Nauert believes that voting on this issue led to an outbreak of violence in the region.

    ... utter nonsense, and looks like the arguments of ukrokakl ...
    1. Going
      Going 20 December 2017 10: 23 New
      +5
      It must be understood that the head and body live their own lives and she thinks only with her body, and her head for eating.
    2. Tramp1812
      Tramp1812 20 December 2017 10: 57 New
      +1
      Well, then do at least something. Personally, if you are so smart and we go in order.
      1. Okolotochny
        Okolotochny 21 December 2017 00: 27 New
        +5
        Why pour gasoline into a fire? So smart do? I do not argue about the correctness of the status of Jerusalem. I say that for the sake of effective phrases from the TV people will die.
  7. Fedorov
    Fedorov 20 December 2017 10: 11 New
    +4
    Jesus was like an Essene, and spoke Aramaic.
    What kind of people live in Israel now? It is time the Russian language can enter the state.
    But are they completely dumb there? Is it difficult to measure? Two thousand years of confrontation, the Felists there, etc. Take the example of GDP - Kadyrov is a friend. And before, he shot and cut.
    1. Tramp1812
      Tramp1812 20 December 2017 10: 52 New
      +4
      The official languages ​​in Israel are Hebrew and Arabic. This is the question of unhappy Arabs. And the Russian language is widely used in our everyday life, it is full of bookstores with literature in Russian, advertising, there are Russian-language Israeli TV channels, newspapers, websites. In any super, cafe, or restaurant, there will certainly be a Russian-speaking one. And it would never occur to anyone to oppress the Russian language. But without knowledge of Hebrew, there is no way through life. Children born here from the former USSR, who knows, who no longer knows, who knows, but already speaks with an accent and mistakes. And their children will not know for sure.
  8. Romanych.by
    Romanych.by 20 December 2017 10: 18 New
    +4
    It turned out to be a living example of how one spoken word of an inadequate leader of a country can start a massacre. It seems that some people across the ocean quite seriously consider themselves the sovereign of the whole world.
    1. Tramp1812
      Tramp1812 20 December 2017 10: 56 New
      +3
      Yes, give up. There will be nothing and nothing will change. The noise in the world, and even the Muslim one from the recognition of Jerusalem as the capital of Israel, is akin to the noise from a baby clapper. Over the past week, there have been more real events and actions in Russia related to the destruction of Islamic terrorists.
    2. Gonchar
      Gonchar 20 December 2017 11: 29 New
      +3
      The result was a living example.
      that Arab amateurs have the audacity to speak about a city that is absolutely not related to them, and that in Syria, almost half a million Arabs were killed and millions in wandering, as it does not interest.
      1. Gonchar
        Gonchar 20 December 2017 15: 57 New
        +1
        Quote: GonChar
        in Syria, almost half a million Arabs killed and millions in wandering, as it is not interested
        Вот например, результат "работы" Ассадских соколов, <http://www.aljazeera.net/amp/news/trends/2017
        / 12/18 / عيوننا-لكريم-حملة-تضامنية-مع-طفل-سوري-محاص
        ر> И никто и слова не сказал. И Эрдуган чегото спокоен, и ООН не собирается.
        1. Okolotochny
          Okolotochny 21 December 2017 00: 30 New
          +6
          Al-Jazeera, well, it’s direct "a lamp of freedom of speech." So big, but you believe in fairy tales. Assad falcons killed more terrorists than the entire coalition together and Israel in particular.
          1. Gonchar
            Gonchar 21 December 2017 10: 32 New
            0
            Quote: Okolotochny
            Al-Jazeera, well, it’s direct "a lamp of freedom of speech."
            How familiar it would be, they would say against Israel, It would pour day and night, Erdugan would pour speech, but as against Assad, they say there’s no light.
            1. sogdy
              sogdy 21 December 2017 14: 40 New
              0
              Quote: GonChar
              How familiar this would be, they would say against Israel, It would pour day and night,

              Is Jerusalem worth the second coming?
              Policy
              Politicians may be prudent than other religious leaders


              The discussion on the recognition of Jerusalem as the capital of Israel, provoked by a statement by US President Donald Trump, sparkled with new old colors. The bishop of the Evangelical Lutheran Church in Jordan and the Holy Land, Munib Yunan, at a meeting of religious leaders with King of Jordan Abdullah II sharply criticized American evangelists. He called their views on Jerusalem “apocalyptic,” and blamed the fact that they lived in anticipation of war and the destruction of the Middle East, thus interpreting various prophecies about the second coming of Jesus Christ. Addressing the Jordanian monarch, who is the keeper of the holy places of Jerusalem, Bishop Yunan, in particular, said:

              “Your Majesty! Christian churches around the world support justice and peace in Jerusalem. All churches, including the Vatican, the World Council of Churches, the International Lutheran Council, and the Council of Churches in the United States, rose to uphold justice for Jerusalem. However, to be honest, we also come across some Christian groups that view events in the Middle East and Jerusalem from a narrow religious apocalyptic point of view. Some of these may affect decision makers in the United States. We, Arab Christians, see these groups as representatives of religious and political extremism, and not true Christianity. Just as Your Majesty does not recognize terrorist groups that do not represent true Islam, calling them Kharijits (rebels), so we, Christian Arabs, disavow this group of Christians who do not represent either the Bible or Christ. For us, they are Kharijites outside the Church. They abuse their literal and erroneous interpretation of both the Bible and Christ, who carry the message of peace, dignity and justice for all mankind. We, Arab Christians, have devoted ourselves to our homeland and the cause of justice, we are an integral part of the Arab - including Jordanian and Palestinian - society. We affirm: the essence of our Arab affairs is the Palestinian question and Jerusalem. However, perhaps good will come from harm. The US decision has revived interest in the role of Jerusalem more than ever. Today, the world understands that there can be no peace in the Middle East without a just peace in Jerusalem and for Jerusalem. ”

              Commenting on the speech of the Jordanian bishop, the American portal The Christian Post notes that "the US evangelists supported Trump's controversial move." The publication cites the statement by the founder of the Zion Friends Museum, Michael Evans, who said that "not a single American president in history has done more to protect the Jewish people at the UN than Trump." In an interview with CBN News, he said that the head of the White House can be compared with the biblical king Cyrus, who helped Israel in ancient times, and added that humanity has come into a “prophetic movement”. As Evans explained, “He (Cyrus) saved the Jewish people. It was used as God's tool for liberation, and God had this imperfect vessel, an imperfect human being, to fulfill His plans and goals in an amazing way. ” Comparing Trump with Cyrus, however, looks a bit ambiguous. After all, this Persian king, having conquered in 539 BC Babylon, invited the Jews living there to return to their homeland and rebuild the temple, after which approximately forty thousand people accepted his offer and restored the Jewish kingdom in Judea under a Persian protectorate. And in our time, the US president throws thunder and lightning against Iran, and Israeli leaders are not far behind.

              But the thing is different. The theme of the second coming of Christ in the Christian tradition - like, in principle, any interpretation of the prophecies - is extremely complex. If you turn to the Gospels (for example, from Matthew, chapter 13), then you can find the direct words of the Lord about future disasters and cataclysms. Christ, to whom the disciples show the temple, gives them: “Do you see all this? Verily I say unto you, there shall not be stone upon stone here; everything will be destroyed. When He was sitting on the Mount of Olives, the disciples approached Him in private and asked: tell us, when will it be? and what is the sign of Your coming and the end of the age? ” And then He enumerates numerous signs and signs, among which wars, calamities, rebellions of peoples and kingdoms against each other. But after the great cataclysm, when “the sun will fade, and the moon will not give its light, and the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of heaven will be shaken, then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in heaven; and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn and see the Son of Man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. "

              However, firstly, to know about the upcoming upheavals for Christians does not mean provoking or stimulating their approach. And, secondly, the patristic tradition does not directly connect the destruction of Jerusalem with the second coming, in other words, the fate of the holy city in those days is hidden from us. Christians are called to the cause of peace, not war. In this context, most Christian Churches really try to defuse the situation that has developed since Trump's famous statement. Which does not exclude cooperation with politicians. So, on Tuesday, December 19, in the Vatican, Pope Francis received the Jordanian king, “cordial conversations” with which, according to the Press Room of the Holy See, “focused primarily on promoting peace and stability in the Middle East, with particular attention to Jerusalem and the role of the Hashemite sovereign as the keeper of the holy places. " Religious leaders and the media are focusing on considering the possibility of recognizing Jerusalem as a city under international sovereignty, recalling the various proposals made earlier on this subject. And in any case, from the Bible there can only be a spirit of judgment and prudence. Without using this holy book as a military topographic aid.
              regnum author Stanislav Stremidlovsky


              Details: https://regnum.ru/news/polit/2359851.html
              Any use of materials is allowed only if there is a hyperlink to REGNUM.
            2. Okolotochny
              Okolotochny 21 December 2017 17: 17 New
              +5
              How familiar it would be, they would say against Israel, It would pour day and night, Erdugan would pour speech, but as against Assad, they say there’s no light.
              This is verbiage. On this
              Assad falcons killed more terrorists than the entire coalition together and Israel in particular.
              there are counterarguments ????
              1. sogdy
                sogdy 21 December 2017 18: 48 New
                +2
                Quote: Okolotochny
                there are counterarguments ????

                They don’t have anything (mate). They are not even Israelis, so bought.
              2. Gonchar
                Gonchar 21 December 2017 19: 32 New
                0
                Quote: Okolotochny
                there are counterarguments ????
                What are you talking about? Assadists destroyed the Syrian Sunnis, (Among them were terrorists). So what? The Americans destroyed more Japanese enemies with two bombs than - (insert yourself). Again, so what?
                1. Okolotochny
                  Okolotochny 21 December 2017 19: 59 New
                  +5
                  For the “especially gifted,” I repeat that the ATS killed more ISIS terrorists than the coalition in general and Israel in particular. Can you refute? So come on. I’m sure you can’t. While the SAR army was bleeding, the IDF shot them in the back. Moreover, from a distance excluding the answer. Doesn’t resemble any behavior?
                  1. Gonchar
                    Gonchar 21 December 2017 20: 16 New
                    0
                    Each has its own terrorists, Israel has Hezbollah terrorists. The Assad men are together with them, which means they are accomplices of terrorists. Do you understand? A hundred times the Assadists were explained, here is the border, to the east of it, which is hosh, neither to the west. Well, they are dull, you have to learn. Here is another dull, Assadovtsev reminds.
                    1. Okolotochny
                      Okolotochny 21 December 2017 20: 20 New
                      +6
                      Each has its own terrorists, Israel has Hezbollah terrorists.

                      IT IS A MASTERPIECE". Yes, there are no words. "There are good terrorists and there are bad ones." Say thanks to Russia. After Syria, your backsight would be in full swing.
                      I remind you of the Asadites. I am a descendant of the people of the WINNER, unlike you. According to the "horns" my ancestors gave everyone. And yours and not yours.
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  9. Gonchar
    Gonchar 20 December 2017 10: 22 New
    +1
    Be sure to raise the issue of transferring the capital of Russia to Samara. - New Samara - rulez !!!
    1. Dym71
      Dym71 20 December 2017 11: 13 New
      +2
      Quote: GonChar
      Be sure to raise the issue of transferring the capital of Russia to Samara. - New Samara - rulez !!!

      And cheyut immediately to Samara? We have Birobidzhan ... fellow
      1. Gonchar
        Gonchar 20 December 2017 11: 23 New
        +1
        Quote: Dym71
        We have Birobidzhan
        Do not hang up !!! Bira Bijan is the New Palestinian capital.
        1. Dym71
          Dym71 20 December 2017 11: 43 New
          +2
          Quote: GonChar
          Do not hang up !!! Bira Bijan is the New Palestinian capital.

          So what? belay
          1. Gonchar
            Gonchar 20 December 2017 14: 04 New
            +1
            And to them, what's the difference of stealing? https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/th
            umb / 8/80 / Jerusalem_Menora_Knesset.JPG / 800px-Jerus
            alem_Menora_Knesset.JPG
            1. Dym71
              Dym71 20 December 2017 14: 29 New
              +4
              Quote: GonChar
              And to them, what's the difference of stealing?

              Are you hinting at a joke?
              The representative of Israel speaks at the UN:
              - When the king of Judah went for a swim in the Jordan River, a crown was stolen from him on the shore.
              Arab:
              - What do we have to do with it? There were no Arabs there at all!
              - Here! This is what I wanted to say ..!
              1. Gonchar
                Gonchar 20 December 2017 15: 14 New
                +4
                How nice it is to talk with an educated person, Alaverdi, American, Russian, Arab and Jew are flying in an airplane. The plane lights up, and there are only three parachutes.
                American says: "My country is the most democratic in the world, I have to
                save yourself! "grabs one and falls out.
                The Arab says: "My people are the smartest!" Quickly grabs another and falls out.
                A Jew holds out a parachute to a Russian. He admires, they say, you give me
                the last parachute, you sacrifice yourself, etc.
                “No,” the Jew says, “Just the smartest with the sleeping bag jumped ...”
                1. sogdy
                  sogdy 21 December 2017 14: 46 New
                  +1
                  Especially clever and cunning enlightenment: there are no genetically “Jews”. Finally.
                  There are Jewish Arabs, there are European Jews.
                  So in vain here you are being hungry, for us you are not the best part of the Arabs.
                  1. Gonchar
                    Gonchar 21 December 2017 15: 22 New
                    0
                    Quote: sogdy
                    Particularly smart and cunning enlightenment
                    Well there is no way. You have proven your ignorance, I hope your compatriots will appreciate where you are with their purely Arab dense red tape.
                    1. sogdy
                      sogdy 21 December 2017 19: 11 New
                      +2
                      Quote: GonChar
                      You have proven your ignorance, I hope your compatriots will appreciate where you are with their purely Arab dense red tape.

                      Note that you are the only wise guy who grunted.
                      1) Atlas of the peoples of the world
                      2) Institute of Cytology and Genetics SB RAS
                      3) "History of Judaism" by Abram Levy.
                      So I call sta, but the Jews are runaway Arabs who support a communal system with a feudal-capitalist system. You are not even descendants of the Moors and Saracens. These are objective data.
                      And Judaism of modern Jews relates Judaism of Israel to sectarianism. Although he admits that he himself has departed from the sources strongly to the side. Original Judaism is closer to the Yezidis than to Jewish post-Christian Judaism.
                      Troll, go to the rabbi, do not carry nonsense.
                      1. Gonchar
                        Gonchar 21 December 2017 19: 29 New
                        0
                        Quote: sogdy
                        So shta
                        You can’t ring, the fact will remain a fact. There are Jews, there are Arabs, and this is not one people, and not identical to DNA, I understand you explain? The head is not a bobo?
  10. Hurricane70
    Hurricane70 20 December 2017 11: 09 New
    +2
    Quote: Rogue1812
    On Shabbat, the silence is such that you can’t hear the squeak of a mosquito. But on weekdays - yes, really music, it is lively on the streets and boulevards, life is in full swing. This is me, as an eyewitness I say. Well, I didn’t see what was behind the fence. But driving along it, I heard nothing. Soundproofing is cool. All the same, Israel is a country of advanced technologies. Unlike others .... drinks

    And then that Jewish bragging spilled out? Can't hold back? And for the fence, then why look weak? An invigorating pendell arrives?
    1. Tramp1812
      Tramp1812 20 December 2017 12: 19 New
      +2
      They arrive, it happened, but from our side, in their direction. And what I did not see there behind the fence - then? If I see the same thing on the VO website. And they don’t let them in, as the IDF protects every Jewish life. This is holy, our Zionist. And he was in trouble after his youth, in 1989, m. In Ferghana, Kuvasay, Kokand, he had the opportunity to conduct explanatory work among the Uzbeks. So that the Meskhetian Turks would not be burned alive and their ladies should not be raped before being burned. And then they took for the fashion of living people to kill.
  11. Azhıldıptır
    Azhıldıptır 20 December 2017 12: 05 New
    0
    Now every Jew walks and looks around.
    What if a Palestinian with a knife rushes at him, or knocks him down with a car.
    And so that these circumcised ones do not write, and no matter how much they swagger ....
    And each of them is a potential victim.
    Well, as they say, according to their deeds and attitude towards them.
  12. Tramp1812
    Tramp1812 20 December 2017 12: 08 New
    +2
    Quote: Dym71
    Quote: Rogue1812
    On Shabbat, silence is such that you can’t hear the squeak of a mosquito

    Well, mosquitoes on the Promised Land! Do you really have mosquitoes too, tavoyt .... in the sense of gravitating to the Jewish faith? belay
    Quote: Rogue1812
    All the same, Israel is a country of advanced technologies.

    Indeed! In our country, a Lefty was a shoe for a flea, and in Israel, proboscis were sharpened for all mosquitoes!
    Or maybe we didn’t have Lefty at all, but Levsha, what do you think? smile

    As for mosquitoes that "gravitate", this is just understandable. We have good cravings all over the world. I quote the heroic anti-Semites of the site: "as everyone has long known." And among those mosquitoes that "do not gravitate," our bats conduct preventive work. Even on Shabbat. They have their own office in Jaffa. It’s also called: “Palace of the Bats.” And they posted an ad: “In the afternoon, it’s not a good day.” And, Lefty, no, he was in Russia, as you rightly noticed, was. Leskov told me about this yet. And Levshi is with us. There were, are and will be. The truth in our manner - Arya is called. Whatever a Jew is Levsha. On this stood and will be Jewish land. And the Jewish people.
    1. neri73-r
      neri73-r 20 December 2017 13: 00 New
      +1
      Quote: Rogue1812
      Quote: Dym71
      Quote: Rogue1812
      On Shabbat, silence is such that you can’t hear the squeak of a mosquito

      Well, mosquitoes on the Promised Land! Do you really have mosquitoes too, tavoyt .... in the sense of gravitating to the Jewish faith? belay
      Quote: Rogue1812
      All the same, Israel is a country of advanced technologies.

      Indeed! In our country, a Lefty was a shoe for a flea, and in Israel, proboscis were sharpened for all mosquitoes!
      Or maybe we didn’t have Lefty at all, but Levsha, what do you think? smile

      As for mosquitoes that "gravitate", this is just understandable. We have good cravings all over the world. I quote the heroic anti-Semites of the site: "as everyone has long known." And among those mosquitoes that "do not gravitate," our bats conduct preventive work. Even on Shabbat. They have their own office in Jaffa. It’s also called: “Palace of the Bats.” And they posted an ad: “In the afternoon, it’s not a good day.” And, Lefty, no, he was in Russia, as you rightly noticed, was. Leskov told me about this yet. And Levshi is with us. There were, are and will be. The truth in our manner - Arya is called. Whatever a Jew is Levsha. On this stood and will be Jewish land. And the Jewish people.

      Blessed is he who believes (c)!