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On the service life of the submarine 5-generation "Husky"

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The press continues to get dosed information about the project of the newest Russian submarine "Husky". This time it is reported about the plans for the service life of a new generation submarine. This information is shared by the head of the robotics sector of Petersburg Malachite design bureau Oleg Vlasov.


On the service life of the submarine 5-generation "Husky"


According to Oleg Vlasov, the service life of the multi-purpose submarine of the 5 th generation of the Husky will be 52 of the year.

RIA News cites the statement of the representative of “Malachite” made during the All-Russian Conference on the development of maritime robotics of the Russian Federation:
Surely heard that such a "Husky" and "with what it is eaten." We have decided for ourselves what technical possibilities are for the hardware complex that is realistic to create in the perspective in which the ship is created. This ship will serve 52 of the year. The ship today is formed.


Why exactly 52, Oleg Vlasov did not say.

Oleg Vlasov said that at the moment, active work is underway to create robotic complexes for submarines of the newest project “Huskies”.

Earlier, Commander-in-Chief of the Russian Navy Viktor Korolev, that research work on the project of the fifth generation submarine will be completed in 2018 year. If you believe Oleg Vlasov, the Husky project has already been formed. It is known that the Huskies will be armed with Zircon hypersonic missiles.

A few days ago, it was announced that the Husky submarine had acquired its appearance. To date, scheduled report of the representatives of "Malachite" Commander of the Navy on the technical details of the future submarine.
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  1. 210ox
    210ox 20 December 2017 06: 25 New
    +5
    There is no boat yet, but the discussion is in full swing .. What?
    1. Separ DNR
      Separ DNR 20 December 2017 06: 33 New
      +5
      Quote: 210ox
      There is no boat yet, but the discussion is in full swing .. What?

      Still unrealized project yes
      Surely they heard what “Husky" is and "what they eat it with."

      Some at such a chatter, not one dog ate yes
      1. Grandfather
        Grandfather 20 December 2017 06: 37 New
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        I propose to discuss the life of the destroyer "leader", and the aircraft carrier "storm" ... who is?
        1. Separ DNR
          Separ DNR 20 December 2017 06: 42 New
          +8
          Quote: Dead Day
          I propose to discuss the life of the destroyer "leader", and the aircraft carrier "storm" ...

          But it’s interesting what service life was laid down for the TARK of the Orlan project in the USSR, and what has become of this period (and gigantic ships) in modern Russia?
          They like to crush the water in our mortar ... They push and push, and they pour it - not water already, but fetid slurry ...
          1. NKT
            NKT 20 December 2017 08: 44 New
            +1
            50 years standard service life for ships. For monolithic-brick houses, the service life is 100 years, for "Khrushchev" - 25-30 years.
            1. Romulus
              Romulus 20 December 2017 09: 12 New
              +1
              Quote: NKT
              50 years standard service life for ships

              This ship will serve for 52 years. The ship is formed today.
              But we have been wondering since 1965 how many boats and ships in service?
              1. NKT
                NKT 20 December 2017 12: 20 New
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                This is the average time given to the ship's hull. Then you can make a major overhaul.
                Like airplanes. There is a glider term or the number of take-offs / landings that comes sooner. True, then they are used only as cargo.

                At the expense of the ships, then
                BDK project 775 is a couple of 1976, project 1171 1966 - Sarov, Orsk 1968.
                Well, for a snack you - Aurora
        2. Marconi41
          Marconi41 20 December 2017 09: 28 New
          +2
          Quote: Dead Day
          I propose to discuss the life of the destroyer "leader", and the aircraft carrier "storm" ... who is?

          Why are you doing this? The enterprise was given an assignment (Wishlist of the Navy). Now the head of this enterprise reports that he can realize of these Wishlist.
          This is done long before the project.
          Everything is as usual.
          1. Berber
            Berber 20 December 2017 09: 45 New
            +1
            I agree. Sofa critics. All that has not been done is all bad. And still annoying - "everything was fine in the USSR." No extremes needed.
          2. DenZ
            DenZ 21 December 2017 09: 57 New
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            Quote: Marconi41
            The enterprise was given an assignment (Wishlist of the Navy). Now the head of this enterprise reports that he can implement one of these Wishlist. This is done long before the implementation of the project. Everything is as usual.

            All clear. Why is it appearing in the media? That is the main question. No one doubts that people work.
        3. Grits
          Grits 21 December 2017 04: 37 New
          +1
          I propose to discuss the life of the destroyer "leader", and the aircraft carrier "storm" ... who is?
          I AM FOR. And also our UDC "Surf"
    2. Uncle lee
      Uncle lee 20 December 2017 06: 40 New
      +5
      What?
      - The appearance was discussed and the service life of 52 years, and Zircon missiles!
      And the rest is a military secret!
    3. Sergey53
      Sergey53 20 December 2017 09: 44 New
      +1
      Quote: 210ox
      There is no boat yet, but the discussion is in full swing .. What?

      The boat was only assembled in thoughts, or rather, what it would be like, and again, as always, SHARE THE SKIN OF THE UNKILLED BEAR.
      1. NEXUS
        NEXUS 20 December 2017 13: 43 New
        +2
        Quote: Sergey53
        The boat was only collected in thoughts,

        Not really ...
        The nuclear submarine of project 09852 Belgorod will be transferred to the Navy in 2018. The submarine is a carrier of uninhabited deep-sea vehicles and bathyscaphes and other scientific equipment. It can be used both for solving military problems and for the search for minerals in the Arctic.

        Currently, the submarine is working on equipment modernization, which is planned to be completed within a year, after which it will be handed over to the Navy, the Izvestia newspaper reports with reference to the headquarters of the Northern Fleet

        But about the even more secret nuclear submarine Khabarovsk ...
        About Khabarovsk it became known on June 20 last year, the laying was scheduled for July 19, and construction was planned in the 50th workshop of Sevmash, which had previously been transferred to the status of a regime facility.

        A little later, the general director of the enterprise Mikhail Budnichenko said: “Several events await Sevmash this year. First, on July 19, on the eve of Navy Day, we lay down three nuclear submarines, including one Borey project and one Ash project. This has not happened in history - in one day we lay down three submarines at once. ” But two days before the indicated date, the plans of the shipbuilders suddenly changed - they decided to postpone the ceremony from July 19 to July 27. And “Khabarovsk” suddenly disappeared from the “mortgage” list.

        According to information from Sevmash, the fifth strategic nuclear submarine “Prince Oleg” of project 955A “Borey” and the fourth multi-purpose “Krasnoyarsk” of project 885M “Ash” were laid on July 27, 2014. However, the third submarine was not reported. However, on the same day, the director of the Northern Machine-Building Enterprise, Mikhail Budnichenko, reported to Vladimir Putin that three new nuclear-powered ships were built - Prince Oleg, Krasnoyarsk, and the strategic boat Khabarovsk.

        Just a couple of days later, thanks to photographs of gift pennants handed to the participants of the historic bookmark on July 27, the number of the mysterious Khabarovsk project became known - 09851. All other information related to the newest submarine never left the secrecy stamp.

        Here is a topic for reflection ...
        1. Kudrevkn
          Kudrevkn 20 December 2017 18: 04 New
          +1
          "Here is a topic for you to think about?" No, Dear, not for us - let the CIA and the Pentagon rack their brains, and let the "anniversary" from the FSB "worry" about you !? Nothing personal - they just have such a job - to take care of too knowledgeable people? Good luck and accept my words as a joke!
        2. Sergey53
          Sergey53 23 December 2017 20: 01 New
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          In my opinion, these are all carriers of the Status; they have nothing to do with Husky.
          1. NEXUS
            NEXUS 23 December 2017 20: 07 New
            +2
            Quote: Sergey53
            In my opinion, these are all carriers of the Status; they have nothing to do with Husky.

            I am talking about technologies and developments. And this is directly related to the Husky project.
    4. Chertt
      Chertt 20 December 2017 10: 08 New
      0
      Quote: 210ox
      there is no boat yet, but the discussion is in full swing

      Why exactly 52, Oleg Vlasov did not say.
      He’s just a troll
    5. Alexey Sommer
      Alexey Sommer 20 December 2017 10: 30 New
      0
      Well, why are you like that?
      I am interested in this information.
      Is it written that the look is formed, or are you here to lay out a conceptual design? )
    6. NEXUS
      NEXUS 20 December 2017 17: 27 New
      +2
      Quote: 210ox
      There is no boat yet, but the discussion is in full swing .. What?

      The Belgorod nuclear submarine and the Khabarovsk nuclear submarine ... but there is very little information about them, and the one that is very vague. On these boats, apparently, technology will be tested for Husky.
  2. Berkut154
    Berkut154 20 December 2017 06: 31 New
    +4
    The country is talking about "Malachite", and in the photo the yard is "Ruby"!
    1. PN
      PN 20 December 2017 06: 56 New
      0
      Malachite - the bottom! Ruby - Forever!
    2. d ^ Amir
      d ^ Amir 21 December 2017 09: 37 New
      0
      misinformation of a potential adversary .... lol
  3. aszzz888
    aszzz888 20 December 2017 06: 37 New
    0
    ... calculated theoretically of course ... but how will she really show? ... request
  4. dojjdik
    dojjdik 20 December 2017 06: 41 New
    +1
    all is well, here the Britons didn’t seem to have imposed the construction of aircraft carriers on us — spending money on these “floating airfields” will be one of the big mistakes of our VPK submarine fleet, our strength should always be like this; and let’s not forget about the development of Arctic oil, no matter how many Jews are enraged, we can build many chemical plants and process our oil into many other products
    1. Grandfather
      Grandfather 20 December 2017 08: 32 New
      +1
      Quote: dojjdik
      everything is good, here it seems to us that the Britons have not yet imposed the construction of aircraft carriers

      decipher the scripture for the stupid ... what
      1. Romulus
        Romulus 20 December 2017 10: 30 New
        0
        Quote: Dead Day
        decrypt

        Everything as usual - he blurted out and threw his cap) Without taking into account the semantic load of his post.
  5. Herculesic
    Herculesic 20 December 2017 06: 41 New
    +1
    Tired of crushing water in a mortar! !!! Wait for her first! And then things may not go beyond words and projects! !!
    1. NEXUS
      NEXUS 20 December 2017 13: 37 New
      +2
      Quote: Herkulesich
      Tired of crushing water in a mortar! !!! Wait for her first! And then things may not go beyond words and projects! !!

      Well, this is not so simple. The nuclear submarines Khabarovsk and the nuclear submarines Belgorod the forerunner of Husky. Apparently, based on their operation, the Husky will be built. It is believed that Khabarovsk and Belgorod will be the first nuclear submarines of the 5th generation. But there is very little information on them.
  6. Wedmak
    Wedmak 20 December 2017 06: 42 New
    0
    Why exactly 52 of the year

    Maybe according to the service life of the "battery" - a nuclear reactor. Could it be that they made it non-rechargeable? Once they stuck fuel at the plant and that's it, for the entire service life.
    1. annodomene
      annodomene 20 December 2017 07: 02 New
      +6
      Unfortunately, it will not be possible to stick fuel once for such a period. Even with the “super-duper” enrichment and profiling of nuclear materials, nuclear physics cannot be fooled; you still have to recharge the nuclear materials. Those. az has nothing to do with it. 52 years is, most likely, based on the capabilities of the PC (structural materials). Well and to everything else - not one survey for the purpose of prolonging the IFA.
      1. Burbon
        Burbon 20 December 2017 08: 58 New
        +2
        Quote: annodomene
        you cannot fool the physics of nuclear weapons; you still have to carry out nuclear weapons recharging. Those. az has nothing to do with it. 52 years is most likely based on the capabilities of the PC (

        But what about the Americans then? ... they have boats that run for 45-50 years without replacing nuclear fuel ?? ... and no replacement is provided ... for scrap ...
        1. annodomene
          annodomene 20 December 2017 13: 13 New
          +6
          You can an example of such a pla and their power plants in the studio. After all, this is how much reactivity margin should be. Honestly - I do not know these types of nuclear weapons.
          1. Burbon
            Burbon 20 December 2017 13: 44 New
            0
            Quote: annodomene
            You can an example of such a pla and their power plants in the studio.

            no, it’s not possible .... do you think it’s so easy to get to the Nor Folk base, take a picture of those documents ... take them out of the states and put them on the network ?? .... read more about their fleet
            1. annodomene
              annodomene 21 December 2017 07: 32 New
              +5
              Well then, there’s nothing to talk about. As an example, I will cite the US S9G installation, the service life of which is ANNOUNCED for 33 years without recharging az. But he has only been announced, but nobody will know how it really will be, such a term looks too fantastic. I know a lot about their fleet, I had to study the battle characteristics of a potential enemy quite tightly in due time. By the way, it’s not necessary to climb into Norfolk, there are places closer, Rota for example laughing
              And about nuclear weapons, on one very good nuclear submarine cruiser, which will always remain imperial for me, I’ve exceeded their service life by 2,3 times and exceeded what the designer guaranteed in terms of energy production. And they would have served, but ... Type of average repair and OP No. 1, you know what I mean. T.ch. 40 ... 50 years without overload look somewhat fabulous. At present, structural materials for TVEL shells that would ensure such a service life have not yet been invented. No, theoretically, NR can generate thermal energy for 50 years, but only after about 25 ... 28 it will be deadly to health close to it, despite biological protection. And why do we need an apparatus that is impossible to maintain. Regards hi
  7. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 20 December 2017 06: 53 New
    +1
    Finally began to secrete what neobrodilo secret. A half-naked blade looks more menacing than a naked ...
    1. ghby
      ghby 20 December 2017 07: 25 New
      +1
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      Finally began to secrete what neobrodilo secret. A half-naked blade looks more menacing than a naked ...

      And they didn’t stop what was needed, they released Losharik in the early 2000s, laughing but nobody really knows anything about him
  8. Alexander Petrov1
    Alexander Petrov1 20 December 2017 06: 56 New
    0
    Not only her body can last 52 years if it is titanium, but from steel 40 years no more, but again, and the filling as far as it lags the world arms race, and in 52 years 2 generations of submarines can be replaced, and it may appear robots, and deep modernization at prices and terms of repair can be compared with the construction of a new submarine !?
    1. Omskgasmyas
      Omskgasmyas 20 December 2017 07: 45 New
      0
      If the stuffing is changed every 13 years, then the submarine after construction will survive another 3 modernization, and it will turn out 52 years of the ship’s life.
      1. Grits
        Grits 21 December 2017 04: 49 New
        +1
        It seems to me that 52 years is a period of 5 years for determining the appearance, 10 years for development, 10 years for construction, 5 years for testing and 5 years for one repair. the rest is exploitation.
        It seems that our entire current fleet is appearing at the same pace.
    2. annodomene
      annodomene 21 December 2017 07: 35 New
      +5
      The steel case (PC) can also last as long. T.ch. do not trust the townsfolk who say that our hull steel "... you can not bend, cook, roll and lower in salt water ..."
  9. askort154
    askort154 20 December 2017 07: 37 New
    +2
    Oleg Vlasov could put it more precisely - the service life will be 52 years and 173 days.
    The chicken’s testicle is in ..., and she has already been assigned the day of death. tongue tongue
    1. annodomene
      annodomene 21 December 2017 07: 37 New
      +5
      Yeah, the phrase "Swimming repertoire of 8 months and 63 days" also sounds laughing
  10. NKT
    NKT 20 December 2017 08: 47 New
    0
    Husky, of course, is good, but what will we build before the lead ship of the project leaves the slipway? Ashes would seem to no longer be laid.
  11. AKsvlad047
    AKsvlad047 20 December 2017 09: 08 New
    0
    I really want these products to come to the service as quickly as possible !!! From the information that we now have, we can judge that it will be a very worthy device! With his arrival, our Western colleagues will become less impudent in the vast oceans!
  12. Old26
    Old26 20 December 2017 10: 24 New
    0
    Quote: 210ox
    There is no boat yet, but the discussion is in full swing .. What?

    How what? That which is not

    Quote: Dead Day
    I propose to discuss the life of the destroyer "leader", and the aircraft carrier "storm" ... who is?

    I am for. As well as the life of the Tu-160M2 bomber, missiles of the Sarmat, Barguzin, Iskander-2, Yars-2M missiles

    Quote: NKT
    50 years standard service life for ships. For monolithic-brick houses, the service life is 100 years, for "Khrushchev" - 25-30 years.

    I agree. That's just the ship most often does not make up fifty kopecks, and the "Khrushchev" are already 50 years old

    Quote: aszzz888
    ... calculated theoretically of course ... but how will she really show? ... request

    Moreover, the interviewee said about the lifespan of the "hardware complex", and what it is and what it is eaten with. At one time, the project 705 boats were planned to be used for almost 30 years, but the lack of coastal infrastructure led to the fact that they served much less.
    The service life of an atomic ship is determined including and the life of its reactor, how many core reboots will be, and after how many years. But this is hardly known, much less published. And the robotics department, where the interviewer works, is most likely connected with the automation of processes on the boat, and not with such key issues as the reactor

    Quote: Wedmak
    Why exactly 52 of the year

    Maybe according to the service life of the "battery" - a nuclear reactor. Could it be that they made it non-rechargeable? Once they stuck fuel at the plant and that's it, for the entire service life.

    It is unlikely that he has such a life cycle. I read somewhere that the maximum that is currently being planned (in the world) when creating a non-rechargeable reactor is a period of 40 years ...

    Quote: Burbon
    But what about the Americans then? ... they have boats that run for 45-50 years without replacing nuclear fuel ?? ... and no replacement is provided ... for scrap ...

    Boats do not go without reloading for 45-50 years. At the same "Ohio" EMNIP, recharging takes place after 16 or 20 years. Over the entire life cycle of 40-50 years - two recharges
  13. ufpb
    ufpb 20 December 2017 16: 24 New
    +1
    I’m not surprised if the “Husky" inhabited compartments will withstand immersion to a depth of 1500 m, or separation from the main body for ascent. Well, like the tank of the Armata project. Imagine.