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Izhmash is ready to develop an automatic rifle with removable barrels for India

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Izhmash is ready to develop an automatic rifle with removable barrels for IndiaIZHEVSK, ARMS-TASS. The Izhmash plant is ready to develop an automatic rifle with interchangeable barrels for India. This was announced today by ITAR-TASS by the general director of NPO "Izhmash" Maxim Kuzyuk following the results of the international exhibition "Defexpo-2012", in which the Russian enterprise took part.

According to him, the Indian Ministry of Defense became interested in the Izhevsk specimens presented at the exhibition, but their requirements for arms quite high. So, in their tenders, they put forward the following wish - "a weapon must have interchangeable barrels and easily move from cartridges of one caliber to another," Kuzuk explained.

"If this requirement remains in the conditions of competition, Izhmash will probably develop for India a separate modification of the machine based on existing models of the 100 series (Kalashnikov, AK), which will take into account all the wishes of the customer. The plant is ready to provide Indian armed forces of modern, reliable and high-quality weapons ", - said the general director.

The plant also reported that in the near future Izhmash will put a trial batch of Bi-7-2KO carbines (the civilian analogue of the SV-99 sniper rifle) for the Ministry of Internal Affairs of India.

In addition, within the framework of DeExpo-2012, Izhmash specialists discussed with representatives of the Ministry of Defense, the Ministry of Defense Industry of India and industry-specific enterprises the possibility of organizing assembly plants with the subsequent transfer of a license to issue AK and Saygi-12 for law enforcement forces to the Indian side.

At the exhibition, which took place from 29 March to 1 April, the Izhevsk plant presented the most popular products on the market of India and neighboring countries: AK 100-series, sniper rifles, Bison and Vityaz submachine guns, as well as weapons for forces law enforcement - "Saiga-12" and the carbine "Bi-7-2KO".
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  1. Aleksey67
    Aleksey67 April 7 2012 10: 21
    +14
    Yesterday there was news about the bankruptcy of Izhmash, but in the sense that everything is being done to return the "prodigal production" under state control. I think everything will be fine. For workers, only a plus, they will pay wages on time, the production will be modernized and I am sure that now there will be an active lobby of the Russian government at tenders smile
    1. esaul
      esaul April 7 2012 10: 31
      +6
      Quote: Aleksey67
      Yesterday there was news about the bankruptcy of Izhmash, but in the sense that everything is being done to return the "prodigal production" under state control.

      I agree, Alexey. Everything was started to knock shares out of the hands of those to whom the interests of the country are to one place. And there are those who are outspoken emissaries of the West. So - everything is legal! As it is sung - "Everything is cultured, everything is decent! Exceptional grace!" good
      1. Charon
        Charon April 7 2012 10: 50
        +12
        It will not be enough. And to bring to justice those who privatized Izhmash.
        1. esaul
          esaul April 7 2012 11: 14
          0
          Quote: Charon
          And to bring to justice those who privatized Izhmash

          Greetings Charon! I think it's not over yet! ...
        2. Aleksey67
          Aleksey67 April 7 2012 11: 23
          +8
          Quote: Charon
          It will not be enough. And to bring to justice those who privatized Izhmash.


          Why run ahead of the engine? Everything is done in stages:
          - bankruptcy
          - refund from previous owners
          - Hi, my name is Misha Khodorkovsky, your little one is there, laughing
          1. Charon
            Charon April 7 2012 16: 54
            +3
            Your words, but to God’s ears.
      2. old rocket man
        old rocket man April 7 2012 12: 33
        +3
        esaul,
        Hi, Valera, news flashed yesterday that Sberbank had filed a lawsuit to declare the Baltic plant bankrupt, here I think they are also digging under the "shareholders"
        1. esaul
          esaul April 7 2012 13: 03
          +3
          old rocketman,
          Igor, I welcome you, my friend! Interesting info! This is similar to our nationalization! drinks Still, subsequently, a paw should be imposed just as competently on a number of enterprises in the mining and processing industries.
          1. Karabin
            Karabin April 7 2012 20: 23
            +1
            Quote: esaul
            Interesting info! This is similar to our nationalization!


            This is like a redistribution of property. There is little hope that for the benefit of the state something will break off.
      3. mind1954
        mind1954 April 8 2012 07: 47
        0
        Amazing How did you manage to privatize it?
        God works in mysterious ways !
        Alexandrovsky Television Plant, in all
        to the rules, corporatized four times and each
        times canceled privatization in Moscow under Yeltsin!
    2. older
      older April 7 2012 10: 32
      -4
      Izhmash went bankrupt for a long time .. But Rogozin promised to return or write off the debt ... But the news is that they will develop a competitive rifle in my opinion from the category of unscientific fiction ...
      1. YARY
        YARY April 7 2012 10: 41
        +3
        It has long been developed, tics for x .... n put it on production? What would nekta profit? noooo. First under control, and then the carrot then!
      2. esaul
        esaul April 7 2012 12: 19
        +2
        Quote: older
        Izhmash bankrupt for a long time ..

        Sergei, I missed something. One business - "their" bankruptcy and quite another - "our"! Before that, those cunning guys who made, at one time, privatization, deliberately ran the enterprise in the priest, and the team with the designers resisted this in all possible ways. If it were not for the labor collective, the plant would have long been the property of foreign owners with the giblets. And now. at the suggestion of Rogozin and with the active support of Putin, the new owner - the STATE (and more specifically, Russian Technologies), will quickly pay off the plant's debts (And here is the most interesting thing! The main amount of the enterprise's debt today is 814 rubles. 417 kopecks! laughing Any foreign well-meaning can buy for a penny! That's why the current shareholders brought him to such a line!) And will become the legitimate and full-fledged owner of the enterprise.
    3. Aleksey67
      Aleksey67 April 7 2012 10: 40
      +1
      Here is a bit from yesterday's article

      The main objective of the restructuring is the preservation and consolidation of the core business, as well as the property fund of the plant within the framework of one legal entity controlled by the state represented by the Russian Technologies State Corporation, preservation of jobs, settlements with creditors. NPO Izhmash has already received licenses for the production and sale of products manufactured by the entire group.

      “A key component of the restructuring is the modernization of production, so we have submitted documents and will be participants in the federal target program for the modernization of the defense industry. This year, we ourselves plan to invest about 200 million rubles in the first stage of production modernization, some of which will be raised from loans and leasing companies, and some from our own profit. We will also take part in other federal programs, for example, to create new technologies, ”said Maxim Kuzyuk, director general of the Izhmash NGO, to the Vedomosti newspaper.

      According to him, serious improvements are already evident. It was possible to increase staff salaries, increase capacity utilization and, most importantly, increase sales. For example, in 2011, it was possible to increase shipments to the US market by 50%, accounting for 65% of the global market for sports and hunting weapons. Revenues from this area alone amounted to 444,2 million rubles ($ 14,8 million).

      The products of the Izhmash plant are delivered to 27 countries of the world, including the USA, Canada, Australia, Germany, Great Britain, Norway, Kazakhstan, Thailand and South Africa. In total, we managed to increase revenue by 40% compared with 2010 (this is a record for the enterprise).

      The efforts were approved by Deputy Prime Minister Dmitry Rogozin. "If we had 50 such Kuzyukov in Russia, our defense industry would be No. 1 in the world”, He wrote on his Facebook page.
      1. Neighbor
        Neighbor April 7 2012 10: 46
        +2
        It is high time the military-industrial complex enterprises are knocked out of business and returned to state control! Moreover, the defense industry, unlike the Soviet era, now brings colossal loot.
    4. sergo0000
      sergo0000 April 7 2012 10: 50
      +1
      Aleksey67,
      Greetings to Alexei, Valery! What does this mean? We grow up our Demidovs.!? yes
      1. 755962
        755962 April 7 2012 15: 20
        +1
        Izhevsk Engineering Plant was declared bankrupt by the decision of the Arbitration Court of the Udmurt Republic. On Friday, a statement was issued, according to which the bank introduced competitive management. The demand for the principal amount of the debt is slightly more than 814 thousand rubles, ITAR-TASS reports.
    5. Krilion
      Krilion April 8 2012 06: 17
      +1
      Quote: Aleksey67
      I think everything will be fine. For workers, only a plus, they will pay wages on time, they will modernize production and I’m sure that now there will be an active lobby of the Russian government at tenders


      by the nature of my work, I observe bankruptcy procedures and their results from the moment such a concept appeared in Russia .. I can’t recall a single case that after such procedures the company returned to normal activities .. the goal and result of bankruptcy procedures is always the same: to cut and sell everything what remains ... the only way to save Izhmash is nationalization ...
  2. Krilion
    Krilion April 7 2012 10: 22
    +1
    the other day Izhmash declared bankrupt ... yahz as Indians will treat this fact in negotiations ...
    1. Igor
      Igor April 7 2012 10: 28
      +3
      I think Indians are already accustomed to miracles in the Russian economy.
      1. Aleksey67
        Aleksey67 April 7 2012 10: 33
        0
        Quote: Igorek
        I think Indians are already accustomed to miracles in the Russian economy.


        They have enough "miracles" both in the economy and in the government. wassat And everyone also notes the Indian "miracle service" of technology, and self-confident "miracle exploiters". The pilots believe that they can fly like the pilots of Russian aerobatic teams with a minimum distance between aircraft. It seems there have already been accidents. wink
    2. 755962
      755962 April 7 2012 15: 14
      0
      OJSC NPO Izhmash (the main shareholder of the State Corporation "Rostekhnologii") with the participation of representatives of OJSC "Rospoboronexport" and the State Corporation "Rostekhnologii" is negotiating with the power ministries of India on the supply of weapons and the organization of assembly production of Kalashnikov assault rifles of the 100th series and the Saiga carbine 12 ", according to the press service of the plant.
  3. ward
    ward April 7 2012 10: 35
    +3
    Well, of course, the Indians are still those ventures, but considering what they have done for our defense industry, they can ... plus ..
  4. Dust
    Dust April 7 2012 10: 46
    +1
    Well, why do they need weapons that can move from one caliber to another? And the soldiers will go on assignments with a bunch of trunks behind him in the hope of getting hold of cartridges from the enemy?
    In general, a meaningless technical solution - you cannot create a weapon capable of using cartridges of different calibers equally well! On the basis of one solution it is possible, but the rifles will be different, each optimized for its own cartridge ... Otherwise, the weapon becomes more complicated, the price rises, reliability drops ...
    1. core
      core April 7 2012 10: 54
      +1
      in the field, one trunk, in the forest another, when storming buildings, you need a third, what's the problem? I think the problem is in our army, here they are afraid to entrust the conscript with the old and tested ak-74, and that with the new machine he thinks up azhm, it’s scary to think for our stripes.
      1. Dust
        Dust April 7 2012 11: 19
        +4
        Practice shows that one correctly selected trunk is enough! This is already manifested in full measure, if we are only talking about length, but about the caliber in general, keep silent ...
        1. Pimply
          Pimply April 7 2012 13: 23
          -2
          Practice shows that sometimes a soldier needs to be quickly re-equipped with weapons of a different caliber. For example, after the end of hostilities in the highlands, he needs to change the caliber for action in urban areas. And modern rifles allow to do it
    2. Pimply
      Pimply April 7 2012 13: 21
      +1
      What are you saying, oops. That’s why the Western gunsmiths of garbage are apparently toiling ... Aww, ay, urgently forbid them. Modularity is now one of the main requirements for a modern assault rifle. Fn SCAR, HK, Tar-21 - they can quite successfully change the caliber within a few minutes. And nowhere is there evidence of a decrease in reliability, for example, or a sharp increase in price. Versatility - yes, there is.
      1. old rocket man
        old rocket man April 7 2012 13: 29
        0
        Pimply,
        I don’t know who minded you, because you are talking business, but I corrected, plus drinks
      2. dmitryg
        dmitryg April 7 2012 14: 20
        0
        And not just modern. In the AR-10 and AR-15, modularity is inherent. I would also add here AUG.

        And they are minus because any admiration for Western models (even objective) automatically makes him a non-patriot. So, vrazhin, a contra.
        1. HAUSER
          HAUSER April 7 2012 14: 55
          +3
          Explain to me, Why is this necessary at all? Okay Special Forces - operates on the territory of the enemy, but this is 5 - 10 thousand barrels, with a margin. Why such a serial rifle? Every day, does an ordinary soldier find trophy ammunition depots? And to carry out various types of combat missions, there are corresponding units armed with the corresponding types of small arms.
  5. taseka
    taseka April 7 2012 11: 26
    +2
    I agree with you - CORE! Our generals can’t shoot, do not run on the lawns, but you’re in vain about the soldiers, he’s quick-witted! interchangeable trunks are needed, but under the field-forest-building. Who orders the music he pays, and ours only talk about the trunk and on YouTube show miracle machines!
    1 barrel - Assault, 2 barrel sniper, 3 barrel - field.
    1. core
      core April 7 2012 12: 34
      0
      about the soldier, it was an irony. Sorry who didn’t think so, I have the most arrogant attitude towards the Russian soldier. only he can tolerate everything.
  6. Max79
    Max79 April 7 2012 12: 10
    -1
    Ours can do a lot, but in fact, not for themselves, but for the "hillock." Mr. Serdyukov, what is there in the prospects for arming the Russian army?
  7. maximus
    maximus April 7 2012 12: 11
    -1
    Yes, but get used to every trunk! Different caliber, weight, length! Definitely affect the hit. And taking into account the fact that many of our conscripts carry out firing once per service, before the oath, do they have to?
    1. core
      core April 7 2012 12: 37
      0
      this is not a conscript problem. but with such an attitude, it’s more convenient for our soldier to fight with a broom and a shovel, so it seems to you. he owns it perfectly. and there’s nothing to get used to.
    2. old rocket man
      old rocket man April 7 2012 12: 48
      0
      maximus,
      Quote: maximus
      Definitely affect the hit. And taking into account the fact that many of our conscripts carry out firing once per service, before the oath, do they have to?

      But for urgent missions, and not for snipers, this is just what is needed, but for example, in a city where the firing distance is mainly from 0 to 58 meters, you need an increased caliber, a short barrel and a capacious magazine, as a result of a shortened barrel - a higher rate of fire, that’s what you need, And thirty meters even a monkey from a water pipe will hit the target bully
      And then we have so, because of the angle the trunk appeared, after 2 minutes a fighter (I exaggerate of course)
      1. Brother Sarych
        Brother Sarych April 7 2012 13: 03
        0
        It is impossible to combine a rifle and a submachine gun in one weapon, and most importantly - no one needs it!
        1. old rocket man
          old rocket man April 7 2012 13: 32
          +1
          Brother Sarych,
          AKSU-ALMOST GUN-submachine gun, though almost, but still fellow
          1. Brother Sarych
            Brother Sarych April 7 2012 14: 01
            0
            In my opinion, about AKSU can only be expressed obscenely, this is not a weapon, but a freak! It seems like an automaton, but you won’t really get anywhere ...
            1. old rocket man
              old rocket man April 7 2012 23: 24
              +1
              Brother Sarych,
              Well, I have to agree with that fellow Xia
          2. wasjasibirjac
            wasjasibirjac April 8 2012 19: 02
            0
            but not SVD
        2. Alexey Prikazchikov
          Alexey Prikazchikov April 7 2012 15: 29
          +1
          Tell this to the creators of xxm 25 skar and others. You got stuck in the 20th century.
      2. maximus
        maximus April 9 2012 12: 39
        0
        Quote: Old Rocketman
        But for urgent missions, and not for snipers, this is just what is needed, but for example, in a city where the firing distance is mainly from 0 to 58 meters, you need an increased caliber, a short barrel and a capacious magazine, as a result of a shortened barrel - a higher rate of fire, that’s what you need, And thirty meters even a monkey from a water pipe will hit the target

        For this, please have a bison that the conscripts did not see to be given! and about 30 meters, then in bulk such monkeys, personally observed)) Here the problem is not even in weapons, but in preparation. They shot at least 3 times a week, but not 3 rounds each, then old weapons! Re-equipment is wonderful, but as you say)) Monkey, at least give a satellite-guided rifle, miss! And shooting, even with just a different caliber, is very different, not always a trained fighter (not special), taking after 5.45 ak, will hit from 7.62, even at a distance of 50 meters, on a chest target! Not in vain, one weapon is always assigned to a fighter! Each one needs to get used to it individually, otherwise they would have grabbed a hat for alarm in a small arms))) First, from one trunk, it would be acceptable to teach the boys to shoot!
  8. Tatanka Yotanka
    Tatanka Yotanka April 7 2012 12: 21
    +3
    the weapon is created under the cartridge, something the Indians overdone with different calibers, a different caliber, other feeding systems, charging extraction. Another piston stroke is actually another weapon, I don’t think that you can create a high-quality unification
    are there any examples of such weapons?
    1. saruman
      saruman April 7 2012 12: 42
      +1
      Of course have. Americans at all experience this in Afghanistan, for example SCAR. Here the article here was http://topwar.ru/8016-shturmovaya-vintovka-fn-scar.html. Maybe with the help of the Indians and this tender, the Kalashnikov assault rifle will acquire a new quality, who knows.
      1. Brother Sarych
        Brother Sarych April 7 2012 13: 05
        0
        Yes, the flag in their hands with their designer storm-Lego - America is rich and dumb enough to peck at such stains ...
      2. Pimply
        Pimply April 7 2012 13: 25
        -4
        Not only Scar. HC, Tavor, most new trunks. Barrel types (not caliber) can be changed lightly and to m4.
    2. Pimply
      Pimply April 7 2012 13: 24
      -3
      Not too clever, this is the usual modern requirements.
    3. old rocket man
      old rocket man April 7 2012 13: 41
      +1
      Tatanka Yotanka,
      The barrel and the bolt frame with the bolt change, that's all. The replacement time is no more than 2-3 minutes, you don’t have to carry trunks with you, threw it in the armor when you need to take it, it changes when the unit changes tasks. There are also boots in the army, but no one goes to puddles in them bully I'm sorry if something's wrong
      1. HAUSER
        HAUSER April 7 2012 13: 52
        +1
        To the rocket. A submachine gun threw into a bronik under another cartridge, and when necessary, what difference does it take to carry an armored personnel carrier 25 kilos or 15. Amerikosovskie show-offs.
      2. Tatanka Yotanka
        Tatanka Yotanka April 7 2012 14: 41
        +4
        Quote: Old Rocketman
        I'm sorry if something's wrong

        discussion is all about the case
        except for the trunks, it’s possible to carry a bolt frame with a bolt with you, a magazine, cartridges, bipods (snap var), as I understand it, a rifle is not for the masses, but special sub, and if the specialists go out for specific operations, where each has its own tasks (sniper, shooter, machine gunner) then what the goat button accordion, to carry the entire transformer strumming on itself with details, losing strength, speed, etc., rather, I agree with HAUSER, Americans for money and a gun will add there
        and felt boots are in the capter and no one is going to carry with them in the summer in case of an unpredictable winter
        1. old rocket man
          old rocket man April 7 2012 23: 25
          +2
          Tatanka Yotanka,
          Well, basically, you're right
  9. HAUSER
    HAUSER April 7 2012 12: 53
    +5
    Auto - moto - velo - photo .... Weapons is a rather specific product. The computer freezes up - it rebooted, the TV broke - did not watch football, the refrigerator died - it lost a little weight. The machine jammed at the most crucial moment - and nothing, you will never be bothered again. The reliability of two, three-barrel machine guns can never be compared with conventional weapons. The very concept of one weapon for different ammunition is a purely American taxpayer divorce by arms companies. Well, they still want to match.
    1. wasjasibirjac
      wasjasibirjac April 8 2012 19: 18
      0
      but isn't AK a multi-caliber, because it is also available at 7,62 * 39, 5,45, * 39, 5,56 * 45, 7,62, * 51, 9 * 39, i.e. almost any common cartridge. barrel length is also different. while the controls are the same and familiar to humans. if a soldier is going on a serious campaign, it may make sense to write 2-3 trunks on him, let him take the one in the armory for the operation. I was interested in something else - in the title of the article - Izhmash is ready to make a sniper rifle. and in the pictures - Saiga 410 in different versions. that they were equated with snipers, or just liked the pictures
  10. Alexey Prikazchikov
    Alexey Prikazchikov April 7 2012 13: 04
    -1
    And for us, even Mash will at least someday begin to develop normal things or how to export all the highest quality, but for us they say they will buy it !?
    1. old rocket man
      old rocket man April 7 2012 13: 43
      0
      Alexey Prikazchikov,
      Duc, and who's stopping? Let Taburetkin buy, I think they won’t refuse laughing
      1. Alexey Prikazchikov
        Alexey Prikazchikov April 7 2012 14: 51
        -1
        So the trouble is that they don’t like their army on Izh Masha all the time.
  11. Filin
    Filin April 7 2012 15: 32
    +1
    I read all the comments and many are wondering WHY different interchangeable trunks ?? And the fact that conscripts do not need it, etc. ..
    But nothing that we have in intelligence in the same group and 5.45 and 7.62 are simultaneously used ??? Plus BCC and VAL - 9mm (SP-5, SP-6), plus SVD (7.62x54) plus RMB. This is not counting the firing knife (NRS) - cartridge SP-3 and SP-3, pistols (APS, PB, PSS) - cartridges 9x18, 7.62x44 (SP-4). Moreover, the AKMS submachine gun with the PBBS device has a reduced speed cartridge (US). Count how many kinds of different rounds are in the group.
    The machine gunner always wore the interchangeable barrel ... and it’s okay. If a single rifle had the same rifle for different calibers and for different tasks, the group could form the appearance of the unit before leaving.
    And replaceable trunks would be in the armory, but not AKC 5.45 and AKMS 7.62 at the same time. And with an increase in the length of the interchangeable barrel, you can achieve a longer range of the aimed shot, as in the STEYER AUG rifle at least.
    For army units, just 2 calibers
    1. Brother Sarych
      Brother Sarych April 7 2012 18: 11
      0
      Very nice, what else can you say?
      Why use automatic machines of two calibers in one group at the same time? In my opinion, the need to use an intermediate gauge is long overdue, but I would choose 7,62 when choosing from these two - well, a prejudice against 5,45!
      If you carry BCC and VAL with you, then in any way they will not be unified with anything - they did not set such a task for the designers initially! So in this case, interchangeable trunks will not help ...
      AKMS with PBBS - is there the only difference in the cartridge? Why another trunk?
      Interchangeable barrels will also not help with pistols ...
      And interchangeable trunks are a must for a machine gun, no one will argue here!
      1. old rocket man
        old rocket man April 7 2012 23: 28
        +1
        Brother Sarych,
        Here, about 7,62 I fully support, 5,45 is more for the shooting gallery and the police, shoot in the crowd
        1. wasjasibirjac
          wasjasibirjac April 8 2012 19: 21
          0


          l
          you don’t roll a barrel heavily on the police, we practically still didn’t shoot at the crowd from military weapons, except for some scumbags
      2. Filin
        Filin April 8 2012 02: 20
        +1
        Brother Sarych

        The main armament in the group is AKC 5.45. The difference in the number of wearable ammunition compared to 7.62 I hope you do not need to explain ??
        In the group there are "noiseless" - these are several people with AKMS 7.62 with a PBBS device, for which there is a US cartridge.
        Already demonization of wearable ammunition. Plus everything that I described above.

        If a weapon is being created "NOW", and not 30 years ago, then it must be done 30 ahead. And not think in past categories.
        For example, I would be happy to have a "BOLVANKA" in the service, that is, a rifle body into which I could insert a 5.45 or 7.62 or 9 mm barrel. Wind up the PBBS, hang up the optics I need. The weapon is ready. \
        And do not store for each specific action - a separate weapon.

        Brother Sarych
        And interchangeable trunks are a must for a machine gun, no one will argue here!

        An additional barrel is not attached to the PECHENEG machine gun. Steel grades used in the barrel of this machine gun can withstand prolonged overheating and serve the entire resource of the barrel.
        1. Brother Sarych
          Brother Sarych April 8 2012 08: 00
          0
          The difference is understandable in a portable ammunition, but I wrote that I don't like 5,45 - it's better to hit 7,62 than to shoot around 5,45 ...
          In my opinion, the Lego constructor from weapons is complete garbage, you cannot create the optimal weapon for several completely different cartridges, but for those close in characteristics and there is no need! In essence, only the butt will be universal, everything else changes, and the butt is just not the most expensive part! Parts of the weapon will either not be strong enough or too heavy, and the structure itself will be unreliable ...
          I believe that it is better to accurately determine the requirements for weapons and create both a cartridge and the weapon itself in the complex ...
  12. dred
    dred April 7 2012 15: 38
    0
    Well, and still say that bankrupt.
    1. cord
      cord April 7 2012 21: 07
      0
      So bankruptcy is a purely technical procedure for the elementary cleaning up and dispersal of cretins from top management
  13. 16
    16 April 7 2012 21: 34
    0
    and the article above says ----------- Izhmash bankrupt !!!!!!!!!!!!!
  14. BorisBM
    BorisBM 21 June 2012 17: 12
    0
    The good thing is that our designers can create competitive products and have orders for their creation. It would be even better if these orders came from our Defense Ministry and arm our Army and Navy, which suffer from a lack of new and latest weapons.