Russia is in favor of resuming direct talks between Israel and Palestine

The head of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Russia, Sergey Lavrov, holds a meeting with foreign policy advisor to the President of Palestine Nabil Shaaz. According to Sergey Lavrov, recent events in the region suggest that the crisis has seriously worsened. The Russian minister notes that Russia is in favor of an immediate resumption of the Palestinian-Israeli dialogue in order to de-escalate the conflict.

Sergey Lavrov quotes RIA News:

In the framework of the regular Russian-Palestinian dialogue, as well as in our contacts with the Israelis, and in the framework of contacts of the quartet of international mediators with the countries of the Middle East region, we always promote the need for the earliest start of direct negotiations in order to find mutually acceptable solutions to the Palestinian problem.

Sergei Lavrov added that Russia intends to make efforts in the UN format to ensure that the status of Jerusalem is no longer an apple of discord in the Middle East.

Recall that the other day Hamas announced the start of the 3-th intifada in response to the recognition of Donald Trump of Jerusalem as the capital of Israel.
Turkish President Recep Erdogan said that this is a failure of American policy in the region, and added that in order to restore the status quo, he is ready to transfer the Turkish embassy to East Jerusalem, which he called the Israeli-occupied capital of Palestine.

All this is happening against the backdrop of the Palestinian request to bring up the issue of the status of Jerusalem for discussion in the framework of the UN General Assembly.

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[assa67]

Jerusalem is the capital of all religions, and Israel’s desire to “squeeze” it under itself is a provocation supported by a springboard ....

[Shura Perm]

it will be difficult to do it already ... the Jews are pulling a blanket over themselves ... and Trump (or whoever is behind him) is a fine fellow, divides and rules ...

[assa67]

Alexander, let me disagree with you .... the elect of God felt the mattress support, and therefore became embarrassed .... the whole Muslim world is outraged by the trick of the springboard, even the Ottoman Pasha, the NATO satellite, the Turkish mission is ready to be transferred to East Jerusalem

[Shurik70]

Israel does not need negotiations. Otherwise, they would not have been allowed to go through the media in this comedy with the transfer of the capital to Jerusalem. And who is there to talk to? Hezbollah or Hamas? There are no others left, and Israel will not speak with these
I believe that in the near future we should expect a "great atrocity of the Syrian regime" with subsequent "expansion of the security zone." Well, and the next "wall fencing of the primordially Jewish territories."

[dcvdv]

Junior sergeant from the Caracal battalion, whose name sounds like Mona Lisa Abadu, is convinced that she did the right thing by going to serve in the military unit. Being an Arab by nationality, the girl decided not just to join the IDF, but also to go to the combat unit.


Junior Sergeant Abadu emphasizes that in Arabic and Hebrew, her name is spelled in one word "Monaliza". the girl’s parents were not only not afraid to name their daughter in honor of Leonardo da Vinci’s masterpiece, but also supported their daughter’s decision to serve in the army,.




































Monalisa recalls how in front of the army she dreamed of putting on “red uniform boots” worn by soldiers of combat units. Until the last moment, she was not sure that she would manage to pass a strict selection, but decided to take a chance. After all the preliminaries, Monaliza Abadu was enlisted in the Caracal battalion.

In 2000, the Knesset passed a law allowing girls to serve in IDF combat units. To begin with, the military command formed an experimental company, and already in 2004, due to the huge influx of volunteers, the Caracal battalion was created. Desert lynxes are called by this word in Israel, the main feature of which is that the females of this species of predators externally almost do not differ from males. Two-thirds of the fighters of this unusual squad are girls.

The commanders maintain that there is no division into “boys and girls” in the battalion. The hardships and deprivations of army service are divided among the soldiers equally, regardless of gender.

"Caracal" is considered a full-fledged military unit, and the girls who choose this difficult path sign an obligation to serve for three years - instead of the weak sex of two years laid down in Israel.
https://youtu.be/OngEC_IL2zw

[dcvdv]

The American Evangelical community welcomed Trump's decision to recognize Jerusalem as the capital of Israel. There is a powerful religious connotation in this endorsement: evangelicals believe that in this way the world is approaching Armageddon, the decisive battle of the sons of light and darkness.

Before discussing what generally drove the US president to unilaterally recognize the Eternal City as the Israeli capital, he should take a closer look at Trump’s surroundings during his historic statement.

The Christmas tree behind the president shone from Christmas decorations, garlands with Christmas toys seemed to turn the broadcast picture into a Christmas vignette, in the center of which Trump himself and US Vice President Mike Pence were placed. Everything was carefully arranged so as to send a kind of message to the evangelical voters and their leaders that it was about their victory, and Trump is their man.

Trump's explicit message to the evangelists proved that he is their active supporter not only when it comes to the internal agenda, whether it is counteracting abortion, appointing judges with conservative views or congratulating “Merry Christmas!”, But also on foreign policy issues so close to them to the heart.

It is no accident also that a dramatic statement was made in the last days of the important Senate election campaign, which will end in Alabama next Tuesday. There, ultra-conservative Republican Roy Moore, a former judge, and now an Alabama Senatorial candidate who enjoys the support of former Trump advisor and Breitbart News executive chairman Steve Bannon, will battle former federal attorney Democrat Doug Jones.

The situation of the 70-year-old Moore is complicated by the fact that he was accused of sexual harassment. However, everything will be decided on the last day, and the appearance of as many religious right-wing voters at polling stations as possible may be decisive for the victory of the Republican Party.

[dcvdv]

In addition, it is noted that Trump’s statement was made on the eve of Mike Pence’s visit to Israel: it is assumed that the US Vice President will stay there for three days, from December 17-19. This, of course, guarantees increased media interest in his visit, as the American guest will be accepted by the Israeli side as a hero, which will undoubtedly please the evangelists.

Although much has been said these days about the impact on Trump's decision by the American Jewish tycoon Sheldon Edelson and Trump's son-in-law, Jared Kushner, and that the Jerusalem Declaration could frustrate the eleven-month effort to resume Israeli-Palestinian peace talks, endorsing the official Israel and American Jews, Trump supporters, seem to have been the main reward for the American president on his way to the main goal.

Trump shows his love for Israel also because evangelical voters are his reliable and strong electorate. It was they who supported him in 2016 more than any other presidential candidate, which gave Trump 81% of the vote. Such support, as noted, at one time did not even have the evangelist George W. Bush.

It was the evangelists — including Mike Pence, as the main lever of their influence in the White House — who were the driving force behind the Jerusalem Declaration.

Moreover, the desire of the evangelical community to see Jerusalem as the eternal and indivisible capital of Israel is based, first of all, on religious beliefs, and not on political realities. This means that Trump and his entourage, thanks to the same beliefs, were not afraid of the expected violent reaction from the Palestinians and the Arab world.

This early Christmas present was given to the evangelists by the Trump administration - perhaps the most favorably disposed administration to evangelists in US history, including an unprecedented number of evangelists in government. In addition, you should add here the weekly Bible Study Group of the White House, which also includes the Vice President.

Next to Trump was also Jay Seculow, one of his personal lawyers, a Messianic Jew who holds a prominent position in the evangelical community. And Johnny Moore, who is considered the protagonist in the retinue of Trump's evangelical advisers. The same Moore, who said in an interview with CNN that the status of Jerusalem is one of the main priorities for the evangelical community, and this issue "is second only to the issue of the judiciary."

Having taken this step, Trump “showed his evangelical supporters that he will do what he says,” Moore added.

On December 6, when Trump made a statement, the far-right evangelical site Charisma News was literally filled with laudatory reviews from leaders of the US evangelical community.

“The evangelists are thrilled because Israel is a sacred place for us, and the Jewish people are our dearest friend,” said Pastor Paula White in an interview with Charisma News. “The Jewish people dedicated themselves to Jerusalem for millennia, took pride in it, protected it with their blood, kept it like a treasure, and today we rejoice with our Jewish brothers.”

White spoke at Trump’s inauguration in January of this year and took part in a high-profile “laying on hands” ceremony during Trump’s presidential campaign, during which 40 evangelical leaders and broadcasters prayed for his success.

Former Arkansas Governor Mike Huckabee, Evangelical Leader and Father of Trump Press Secretary Sarah Huckabee-Sanders, has struggled for many years to get the US Embassy to Jerusalem. He also welcomed Trump’s declaration, speaking on a television channel favored by the president, and dismissed fears that a decision on Jerusalem could cause violence.

However, in order to truly understand the role of the “theological component” in Trump’s behavior, one should take his religious beliefs seriously. So says a progressive Christian commentator and expert Diana Butler-Bass. According to her, the question of Jerusalem is so important for the evangelists that they need to restore Judeo-Christian control over the Temple Mount.

"Why is this so important?" Asked Butler-Bass on Twitter and replied: because the restoration of the Temple initiates the “end of time” set forth in the Book of Revelation. The end of time is a fundamentalist Christian belief in the prophecy that "the living and the resurrected will someday be delivered from the Earth by God, their bodies will be transformed in heaven when He pours out his anger on the remaining sinners."

Butler-Bass argues that “of all the possible theological aspects that make up Trump’s gospel base, the Jerusalem Declaration is perhaps the most important. Trump seems to be reminiscent of fulfilling God's will in these last days.

“They were waiting for this, praying for it,” the commentator writes. “They want a war in the Middle East.” The battle for Armageddon when Jesus Christ returns to Earth and defeats all enemies of God. For some evangelists, this is the culmination of history. And Trump takes them there. To the promised court, to their sure victory. The righteous will appear before Heaven; the condemned will be cast out into hellfire. ”

According to Butler-Bass, “the decision on Jerusalem is a fulfillment of Bible prophecy. Donald Trump not only acts to fulfill his campaign promises, but also introduces a theological component into the battle. Evangelicals believe that in this sense, Donald Trump is an instrument of God that brings us closer to the rapture, judgment and end. Because for them it’s actually the beginning - the beginning of their reward and heavenly bliss. ” That’s why, Butler-Bass believes, the question of whether Trump’s statement should be considered a provocation that could harm the cause of peace sounds pointless, because “peace in this world does not matter.”

For non-believers and Christians of a different kind, to whom all this seems quite far-fetched, Butler-Bass advises to pay attention to the tone of church sermons throughout the country, arguing that "millions of American Christians believe in this and base their faith and self-awareness on this."

Butler Bass found support in the face of evangelical cleric John Haji, who spoke on CBN News's Faith of the Nation talk show. Haji said, “Christians should take care of Israel, because the whole Bible, starting with Genesis, is God's document about the Jewish people.

“Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. It is recorded in Genesis that He intends to give them land in the Middle East, and that part of the earth will be forever behind them. “Forever” means today, tomorrow and forever, ”Haji emphasized. He also mentioned the end of time, noting: "I believe that at this moment Israel is God's stopwatch for everything that happens to every nation, including America, from now on before the rapture of the church and beyond."

The Rapture of the Church describes an event that fundamentalist Christians believe in and which will come at the end of time when the righteous will be raised to heaven.

Given Trump's popularity in the evangelical community and their support for the Jerusalem decision, it is interesting to note that a survey of 2000 American evangelicals was recently conducted. The results showed that the elderly responded much more strongly in support of Israel than the young.

In other words, 80% of the respondents, over 65 years old, believe that the Jewish people certainly have the right to the Land of Israel, compared with 61% of respondents under the age of thirty-five. According to the results of the survey, a special communiqué was issued, which noted that "in general, the support of Israel by the Evangelicals will decrease significantly in the next decade, if the younger generation is not educated, focusing on the biblical meaning of Israel."
May be so. But if the events of recent days can be considered indicative, the support of the Christian evangelists regarding Israel is still strong enough to influence the decisions of the US president. when Russia will support Israel, just like Trump and the American people and also applaud in support of Israel, then perhaps Russia will become for Israel what the states are but a long tradition and hard to believe. and you friends don’t sit down, but you don’t suit musicians alas .https: //youtu.be/1HrbsNKvR-s

[dcvdv]

Monaliza, Israeli Arab Christian and volunteer in IDF combat units https://youtu.be/OngEC_IL2zw

[Professor]

Quote: assa67

Jerusalem is the capital of all religions, and Israel’s desire to “squeeze” it under itself is a provocation supported by a springboard ....

Find the mention of Jerusalem in the Qur'an and we will give Jerusalem to the Muslims.

The Russian minister notes that Russia favors the immediate resumption of Palestinian-Israeli dialogue with a view to de-escalating the conflict.

So what? Are the Philistines ready? By the way, we are always ready for negotiations without preconditions.

[andj61]

Quote: professor

Find the mention of Jerusalem in the Qur'an and we will give Jerusalem to the Muslims.

Specially downloaded a couple of translations of the Koran and struck a search - there is no Jerusalem! But there is something else:

47. O sons of Israel! Remember the grace that I have shown you, as well as the fact that I have exalted you above the [other] nations of the world.
48. Fear the day when no one will accept punishment for another, when none of the people will be allowed to intercede [the other], when a person will not be able to pay off [from committed sins] and sinners will not be lenient.
49. [Remember] how we saved you from the minions of Fir'aun. They punished you with the worst punishment: they killed your sons and left your women alive. This is a great test for you from your Lord.
50. [Remember] how We opened the sea for you and drowned the minions of Fir'aun, and you yourself saw it yourself
51. [Remember] how We called [to] Musa for forty days, how after you left you began to worship the calf and fell into wickedness.
52. And then after all that has happened, We have forgiven you, hoping that you will be grateful.
53. [Remember] how We gave Musa the Scriptures and [the ability] to distinguish [truth from lies], hoping that you would go the right way.
54. [Remember,] as Musa said to his people: “O my people! You offended yourself by bowing to the calf. Repent before the Creator, and let [the pious] kill [the sinners] among you. This is the best for you before the Creator. And He will forgive you, verily; He is forgiving, merciful. ”
55. [Remember] how you cried out: “O Musa! We will not trust you until we see Allah with our own eyes. " And lightning struck you, and you saw it with your own eyes.
55. Then We brought you back to life after you lost consciousness to thank [Us].
57. [Then] We overshadowed you in a cloud and sent you manna and quails with the command: “Taste of the blessings that we have given you for inheritance.” [But the sons of Israel did not obey Us] and thereby inflicted an insult not to Us, but to themselves.
58. [Remember,] as We said: "Enter this city and eat plenty, wherever you want." Enter the gate, bowing [chapter], and cry out: "[Forgive us our] sins." [And then] We will forgive your sins and multiply [the good] by those who do good.
59. The wicked replaced the word [God] commanded by him with another, and We sent down judgment from heaven on them for acting wickedly.
60. [Remember] when Musa asked for water for his people, We commanded: “Hit your rock with your staff.” And twelve keys were thrown out of it, and each tribe knew where to drink water. [And it was said to them]: "Taste what Allah has given you as an inheritance, and do not do wickedness in the land."
61. [Remember] how you prayed: “O Musa! We cannot always eat the same thing. Pray for your Lord for us. May He command vegetables to grow from the earth: cucumbers, garlic, lentils and onions. ” Musa said: “Are you really asking to replace the best with a low one?” Return to Egypt, and there you will find what you ask for. ” And they suffered humiliation, poverty and the wrath of Allah because they refuted the signs of Allah and killed the prophets for no reason, because they disobeyed Allah and transgressed [the law].
62. Truly, those who believed, and also Jews, Christians and Sabaeans, all those who believed in Allah and the Day of Judgment. whoever did good is prepared for retribution from Allah, they have nothing to fear, and they will not know grief.
63. [Remember] how We took a promise from you, erected a [Sinai] mountain for you [and said]: “Hold fast to what you have been given, remember what is in the granted, and then maybe you will become God-fearing. "
64. And after all this you turned away from Allah! And if it were not for the favor of Allah for you and for His mercy, you would certainly suffer damage.

When referring to the Jews, “this city” is mentioned, which, as I strongly suspect, is Jerusalem ... True, in the Qur'an, Allah is merciful and merciful indicates that he gave "this city" to the Jews. The truth, rebukes them that they did not follow his commandments

[voyaka uh]

"True, it rebukes them that they did not follow his commandments" ////

Well, what about. Every missionary wants nations to turn to
their - the most correct - religion. In the times of the Roman Empire, Judaism
was also a missionary religion. A strict ban on missionary work was
published in Judaism only in the Middle Ages. And still holds.
If you (for example) take it into your head to become a Jew, then I (for example)
I must begin to dissuade you: "Yes, you chooo, we have a religion - oh, sucks, and you yourself
You - d_r_ak "(to discourage). Such religious gadgets .
But back to Jerusalem: it is not in the Qur'an, as you correctly checked.

[andj61]

Quote: voyaka uh

If you (for example) take it into your head to become a Jew, then I (for example)
I must begin to dissuade you: "Yes, you chooo, we have a religion - oh, sucks, and you yourself
You are d_r_ak "(to discourage desire). Such religious gadgets.

In fact, everyone who wanted to become a Jew without Jewish blood had done this long ago — either they became subbotniks or they “found” Jewish relatives on the maternal side.
Yes, and why? As Igor Huberman said there

The Lord’s sowing is the same everywhere,
and they lie to us about the difference of nations;
all people are Jews, and just not all
found while the courage to confess.

[dcvdv]

Sura 10 (“Jonah”).

90. We transported the sons of Israel (Israel) across the sea, and Pharaoh and his army followed them, outraged and acted in hostility. When Pharaoh began to sink, he said: “I believed that there is no God but Him whom the sons of Israel (Israel) believed in. I became one of the Muslims. ”

93. We settled the sons of Israel (Israel) in a glorious country and endowed them with blessings. There was no disagreement between them until knowledge came to them. Truly, on the Day of Resurrection, your Lord will judge between them in what they disagreed. Sura 45 (“Kneeling”).

16. We have already given the sons of Israel (Israel) Scripture, authority and prophecy, endowed them with blessings and preferred them to the worlds. Sura 62 (“Congregation”).

5. Those who were instructed to adhere to the Taurat (Torah) and who did not adhere to it, are like a donkey, which carries a lot of books. How bad comparison with people who consider the signs of Allah a lie! Allah does not direct the path of unjust people. Sura 5 (“Meal”).

12. Allah took a covenant from the sons of Israel (Israel). We have created twelve leaders among them. Allah said: “I am with you. If you pray and pay zakat, you believe in My messengers, help them and lend Allah a wonderful loan, then I will let you go of your sins and bring you into the gardens in which the rivers flow. And if any of you after this becomes an unbeliever, then he will go astray. ”122. Oh, the descendants of Israel! Remember My grace, by which I have blessed you, that I have given you preference over the worlds. 65. You knew those of you who broke the Sabbath. We told them: “Be despicable monkeys!” In the fifth Sura of the Quran (ayats 20-21) it is clearly said: “Musa told his people:“ O my people! Remember the mercy shown to you by Allah when He appointed the prophets among you, made you lords and gave you what he did not give to any of the inhabitants of the worlds.
Oh my people! Enter the holy land that Allah has decreed for you; do not turn back (from fear of its rulers), or else suffer the damage of a lie. "

(Quran, surah 7 “Obstacles”, ayat 152)

In continuation of the description of those events in the Qur'an, the stay of the Israelites in the Sinai desert is indicated before they were allowed to step on the Holy Land:

“We divided them into twelve tribes - genera. When his people asked him to drink them, We inspired Moses: "Hit with your staff on the stone." Twelve keys filled from it, and all the people found out where they should drink. We overshadowed them with clouds and sent them manna and quails: “Eat the blessings that We have endowed you with.” They were not unfair to us - they acted unjustly only in relation to themselves. "

(Quran, surah 7 “Obstacles”, ayat 160)

And it is precisely after this that the Quran follows a simple and mysterious reference to Jerusalem as a “city”:

“Here they were told:“ Settle in this city and eat where you want. Say: "Forgive us," and enter the gate after bowing ... "

(Quran, Surah 7 “Obstacles”, ayat 161) The next mention of the Holy Land in the Quran occurs 500 years later, when Moses (peace be upon him) persuaded the Israelites to fight for its conquest. He led them out of slavery in Egypt, and a divine miracle happened when the sea parted before the Israelites and flooded their enemies. Then, the fight for the liberation of the Sacred Land was to begin with Sinai.

“Oh my people! Enter the Holy Land, which Allah ordered you to, and do not turn back, otherwise you will suffer a loss (and lose the right to live on the Holy Land). ”

(Quran, sura 5 “Meal”, ayah 21)

This verse of the Qur'an confirms what was meant in the 71st verse of the 21st surah, cited above. The Israelites were descendants of Abraham (peace be upon him) and continued to follow his religion, adhering to the path of the Prophet Allah Moses (peace be upon him), so they were empowered to live in the Holy Land. It was their land.

Some time after the death of Moses (peace be upon him), the Israelites managed to enter the Holy Land, but the enemy tribes persecuted them. Sometimes they even had to flee to save their lives. The Qur'an mentions this and the desire of the Israelites to find a king who would lead them in the struggle to establish complete control over the Holy Land.

“Don't you know about those who left their homes for fear of death, although there were thousands of them? Allah told them: “Die!” Then He revived them. Indeed, Allah is merciful to people, but most people are ungrateful.

Fight on the path of Allah and know that Allah is the Almighty, the Omniscient.

If someone lends Allah a wonderful loan, then He will increase it many times over. Allah restrains and generously grants, and you will be returned to Him. "Here Moses said to his people:“ O my people! Remember the mercy that Allah showed you when he established the prophets among you, made you kings and granted you what he did not give to any of the worlds.

Oh my people! Go to the sacred land that Allah intended for you, and do not turn back, otherwise you will return with a loss. ”

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(Quran, sura 5 “Meal”, verses 20-21) (Quran, sura 5 “Meal”, verses 21-23)

Other verses of the Qur'an reaffirm that the Holy Land was granted to the Jews:

“Pharaoh planned to expel them from the earth, but We drowned him and all who were with him. After that, we said to the sons of Israel: "Live on this earth ..." »

(Quran, surah 17 “Sons of Israel”, verses 103-104)

“We have given to the legacy of those whom we considered weak, the eastern and western lands that we have blessed. The beautiful Word of your Lord about the sons of Israel has come true, for they have shown patience. "We destroyed what Pharaoh and his people did and what they built."

[Professor]

Quote: dcvdv

And it is precisely after this that the Quran follows a simple and mysterious reference to Jerusalem as a “city”:
“Here they were told:“ Settle in this city and eat where you want. Say: "Forgive us," and enter the gate after bowing ... "

In "this city" is it about New York or Zhmerynka? Or maybe about Birobidzhan?
So, when did Jerusalem become holy for Muslims if they pray backwards to Jerusalem and the city itself is never mentioned in the Qur'an?

[Gonchar]

Quote: andj61

in the Qur'an, Allah the merciful and merciful indicates that he gave "this city" to the Jews

Thank. (Not that it was unknown to us), but what now is the attitude towards those who oppose the will of the Almighty?

[dcvdv]

https://youtu.be/oWlxLq-2RQA в социальных сетях арабские блогеры развернули кампанию по поддержке Ахэд Тамими под лозунгом: "Мы все - Ахэд".

In particular, a photo of Ahed Tamimi with this slogan was published on Fatah's blog.






Judging by the publications on social networks, the arrest of Ahad Tamimi only increased its popularity among Arab peers.

Ahed was preceded by a heated discussion in the Israeli Internet segment over a video that shows how teenage girls from the Tamimi family from the village of Nabi Salih insulted and beat two IDF soldiers.

The incident, captured on video, occurred last Friday, when clashes took place in the village between local residents and IDF soldiers.

Two servicemen, one of whom with the rank of captain, kept order near the Tamimi family home. Ahed Tamimi, accompanied by her friends, approached the soldiers and started screaming and insulting them. What was happening was filmed by father Ahed. Since the soldiers did not respond to the girls, the "picture" was inconclusive, the girlfriends tried to anger the soldiers. They began to rush at the servicemen with fists, beat them in the chest and back, kick and try to give a slap in the face. As a result, as can be seen on one of the two commercials, the attackers managed to force the military to move away from home. The soldiers did not use force.

Sources in the IDF say in a preliminary investigation that the actions of the soldiers were "generally correct, but the attackers needed to be detained."

[Maz]

Right now, Schaub, the most important redneck of the world, went to negotiations, where the Mea Ahuz will demand the return of the territory and put it in place, and it will be necessary to hand over the positions for free. The nose is higher than the roof and the cries of our anti-Semites oppress us, that’s what will happen. Do not go to a fortuneteller. All hope is for Putin, otherwise we will run an aron at night in a bomb shelter and carry a gun on one side even to the toilet.

[Gonchar]

All hope

All Hope for himself and the Almighty, the rest go back to Zhmerinka, and let them hope there. Do not make yourself an idol

[Tramp1812]

Quote: assa67

Jerusalem is the capital of all religions, and Israel’s desire to “squeeze” it under itself is a provocation supported by a springboard ....

"Follow this rule stubbornly so that words are cramped and thoughts are spacious." You have exactly the opposite: "The words were spacious, my thoughts were cramped, the idea was running away, I followed it." Let's start ... So, "the capital of all religions." The capital of all religions does not exist, there are only the capitals of states. Jerusalem, for example, was the capital of Israel even before the new era. She remains. As for "all religions": again deuce. Buddhists, Hindus, Shintoists, Baha'is - making up over half the world's population, are absolutely indifferent to Jerusalem as a shrine. Christians also do not claim Jerusalem, they are quite satisfied with the tolerance of Israel towards their shrines there. The bottom line is Islamic terrorists, as well as some of the emotionally unbalanced visitors to the VO site. But in general: Christianity and Islam arose on the basis of Judaism and recognize its main provisions. Thus, the dispute about Jerusalem is not a dispute about what is primarily a chicken, or an egg? Everything is clear here: Judaism, which was the basis of Christianity and Islam, is primary. And the capital of the Jewish state was Jerusalem and only Jerusalem. This, as O. Bender used to say, is a medical fact. Well, what about the "desire of Israel to squeeze Jerusalem" ..... He since 1949 on the basis of the Law, the capital of Israel. Soon, as a hundred years. And you are all making noise. Not tired? Would have a rest.
I am referring you to a picture on a chocolate candy of a happy Soviet childhood: "Take it away!"

[Gonchar]

Quote: assa67

Jerusalem is the capital of all religions

The Vatican and Rome are the capital of all Catholics, it is obligatory to file for discord.

[Maz]

Well, I told you, Aron, and others like him, that only Russia is able to reconcile two inadequate neighbors and also relatives among themselves and appease your endless blood feud. Look - miracles are our Russian style. We brought Hitler to suicide. And your country was allowed to create. And if necessary, then pile up new miracles. At least to someone. Do you believe? ... And Trump believes us. Want to check -see the news we don’t need someone else’s; we want to stand up for justice. And you want to treat me all, and turn me over to the shabak, and drive them out of the country, and fill them with dirt. But it is not visible to you for a story. The rake is old, Palestinian. And the twenty-first century, how many years

[dcvdv]

Palestinian attacker soldier engaged in this since childhood
On the morning of December 19, MAGAV soldiers arrested a resident of the village of Nabi Saleh, Ahed Tamadim, who attacked two Givati ​​soldiers last Friday.

Palestinian sources claim that 10 MAGAV jeeps drove into the village for arrest.





The actions, or rather, the inaction of the soldiers of the Rotem battalion of the Givati ​​brigade, who did not respond to Palestinian provocations, generated a wave of criticism in the Israeli press and social networks. However, the battalion commander, who conducted the initial investigation, supported his soldiers, although he noted that they could arrest the attackers on the spot.

Meanwhile, the Palestinian media is proud to publish photos of Tamimi, who since childhood has been involved in provocations against IDF soldiers, which, apparently, has already become a profession for her.https: //youtu.be/KR51deMnas4

[Gonchar]

Quote: dcvdv

which, apparently, has already become a profession for her.

Worse, this is the profession of her parents.

[Maki Avellevich]

Russia is in favor of resuming direct talks between Israel and Palestine

Thank you, have not talked with them for a long time.

[210ox]

You see what the long abstinence leads to ...

Quote: Maki Avellevich

Russia is in favor of resuming direct talks between Israel and Palestine

Thank you, have not talked with them for a long time.

[Chertt]

Quote: Maki Avellievich

Thank you, have not talked with them for a long time.

Today, having a serious military advantage, you can be ironic, But the people of Israel have always been distinguished by their foresight. It seems you lost her

[Maki Avellevich]

Quote: Chertt

Today, having a serious military advantage, you can be ironic, But the people of Israel have always been distinguished by their foresight. It seems you lost her

why did you decide so?
we still have ears on the crown, tail with a gun, ready to wet their sworn friends.

[Chertt]

Quote: Maki Avellievich

we still have ears on the crown, tail with a gun, ready to wet their sworn friends.

Wow play it lucky

[Maki Avellevich]

Quote: Chertt

Wow play it lucky

Well, in general, yes, we are lucky. but you had to pay for everything, and not a little.
we also walk under the sun, like everyone else.

[79807420129]

Sergei Lavrov added that Russia intends to make efforts in the UN format to ensure that the status of Jerusalem is no longer an apple of discord in the Middle East.

So yes, that would once again look at the tantrum of US representatives.

[Going]

Russia has felt the pain point of the United States and will now put pressure on it, and the representative of the United States, the great one, is playing along with us, without realizing it.

[Strips]

Quote: 79807420129

So yes, that would once again look at the tantrum of US representatives.

14 members of the UN Security Council were hysterical when, after their vote for the resolution, the US representative understood her hand and the resolution was canceled

[anjey]

Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov meets with Foreign Affairs Advisor to the President of Palestine Nabil Shaaz

without Russia in BV no one will clear the situation - into the world, this is a fact ...

[brigadier]

And what, in fact, can Russia offer to the contracting parties?
What are Russia's leverage over the Palestinian Arabs, and even more so about Israel?

Israel has long understood that engagement with Russia may be tactical, but not strategic, because our interests diverge too much. And Russia has sold and is selling weapons to our enemies, and at the UN it has supported and is supporting all anti-Israeli resolutions, kissing the gums with Iran (and Iran promises to destroy us a couple of times a week). The mediator should be at least neutral and inspire confidence on both sides.
So Russia, let the Donbas first razrulit ... and we really somehow here ourselves.

[Professor]

Quote: brigadir

And what, in fact, can Russia offer to the contracting parties?

Like what? Like the US, tens of billions of dollars of annual aid. Like the United States, the prosperity of its multi-million Jewish community and its multi-million Arab community. Not? Then pass by. You have no chance.

[anjey]

It’s a stratgic character, most likely you’ve had a family relationship with the Yankees a long time ago, it’s hard to talk with you at these positions, unless you let a little bit sinful on the ground ... there’s too much show off, as they seem to be at the entrance ...

[brigadier]

unless if you just let you down a little on the sinful land ... there is too much pontus, as they seem to be at the entrance ...

Well, well ... Already interesting. And how do you see it?

[Loess]

Recall that the other day Hamas announced the start of the 3-th intifada in response to the recognition of Donald Trump of Jerusalem as the capital of Israel.

Trump signed a piece of paper, and to bite between themselves Hamas and Israel ... In principle, it is logical, Hamas against the United States is weak ...

[iliitchitch]

This man is already starting to strain me. Dash to Palestine to meet with the adviser. Minister of Foreign Affairs of Russia. To the Middle East. Well so and you will consult in the East at the level of the adviser to the president of some liberation army of the western intestine. Zadolbal his concern already. It seems that we leaked the grip of the bulldog Gromykinskaya completely. Shoigu almost done his job, then rolled the proser? Sentry tired?

[Strips]

Neither Russia nor any Muslim or European country can replace the United States - there is simply no influence of such strength or opportunities.

It is very simple to solve the Israeli-Palestinian issue - to give the Palestinians some Arab areas of East Jerusalem and hang a flag there. This is the only place to resolve the conflict.

There is no real opportunity in which all of East Jerusalem will become the capital of the Palestinians.

You have to be honest. In 48, the Arabs did not adopt a resolution on division. Egypt and Jordan have seized territories that today the Palestinians want to make their state, including East Jerusalem. Both Egypt and Jordan owned these territories for 19 years and at that time did not give the Arabs living there any state.

Then no one knew the Palestinian people, which was invented only in the 60s as an attempt by Arabs and others to act against Jews in the political arena.

Jordan only in 88, that is, after 40 years, abandoned the claims on East Jerusalem and the West Bank. For 40 years, Jordan has not recognized the right of the Palestinians to a state.

Everything is quite simple - if the Arabs had thrown the Jews into the sea, now instead of Israel there would have been no Palestinian state, but part of Jordan and part of Egypt, maybe a piece of Syria has departed. The Syrian President at the time said that Palestine is part of Syria.

Palestinians were heavily promoted by the Arabs in the late 80s to confront Israel in the legal arena, as they could not and will not be able to destroy Israel.

Therefore, if the Arabs did not give a damn about the Arabs - the Palestinians while they could act by force against Israel, while the Arab countries tried to destroy Israel several times without success - they did not care about some Palestinians. And the truth is, it's just the Arabs who were called the people. This is true, and so thought the Arab countries around Israel.

Israel, at the same time, gave access to all three religions in Jerusalem - and has the right to leave it behind after Jerusalem and Israel survived the attempts of destruction.

On the other hand, there is now almost consensus in Israel - even the centrist parties are against the division of Jerusalem. There are disputes about a part of the Arab regions of Jerusalem, about settlements that are outside large blocks, but regarding a unified Jerusalem, almost all parties agree.

Therefore, Trump did the right thing - he recalled what is reality, and not what was a long time ago. The division of Jerusalem, as before the war, is already unrealistic, and Arab countries and Turks and Persians understand this. It’s just for them to use the hatred incited for decades for their own purposes - the goals of domination in the Muslim world. And those who do not oppose the decision of Trump - they will be branded as accomplices of the Zionists.

Before Europe, Russia and Europe and even the United States had their own vision - for them the fear of change, the current conflict languishing sometimes turning into small explosions is better than making difficult and real decisions.

Palestinians themselves do not want peace. Previous Israeli prime ministers also added fuel when they proposed dividing Jerusalem. But then the Palestinians refused. Refused several times. They need subsidies, they need money. Otherwise, what will happen after they agree? Who will need them? To nobody. Their mission among the Arab countries will be completed. There will be a poor, poor state.

And now in Israel there is no option to choose a government that agrees to divide Jerusalem.

Therefore, the only right decision is to force the Palestinians through Arab countries to take a piece of East Jerusalem with the Arab population.
According to polls, the Arab population of East Jerusalem is not in a hurry to enter the new state.
But while Muslim countries and not only have not ripened for an adequate solution. Muslims fight with themselves, fight for supremacy in the Muslim world, where hatred of Jews is a sign of quality and respect, the excessive importance that Muslims attach to Jerusalem, which is not mentioned in the Qur'an. All this interferes with the peace between Muslims and Jews.

And most importantly, Trump did not say that all of Jerusalem is Jewish, he did not say that East Jerusalem is Jewish. He said that Jerusalem is the capital of Israel within the borders to which both sides will agree.

The world’s sad reaction to the mention of the fact that Jerusalem will be the capital of Israel anyway is amazing. And of course the Muslim world, which once again proved that they do not need peace, they do not need to throw Jews into the sea and they can’t even digest that Israel has the right to the capital in Jerusalem.

[Maz]

Everything has its time.

[A. Privalov]

The USSR, and after that, Russia has always supported the most notorious and outspoken scoundrels politically, with finances and weapons at BV, and now "stands for the resumption of direct negotiations"? Is this a joke?

[Karakut]

The negotiations with Israel are useless. As the USA, they understand only power!

[A. Privalov]

Quote: Karakut

The negotiations with Israel are useless. As the USA, they understand only power!

A very authoritative statement. Apparently, you already have considerable experience in negotiating with Israel. Do not refuse courtesy, please tell me, what did you manage to get from Israel by force?

[Karakut]

Quote: A. Privalov

A very authoritative statement.

What is there ..

Quote: A. Privalov

Apparently, you already have considerable experience in negotiating with Israel

History can tell a lot about what ... in communication with you!

Quote: A. Privalov

Do not refuse courtesy, please tell me, what did you manage to get from Israel by force?

After Stalin, nothing yet ... Tightly entrenched there for such a short period!
We would have quickly figured out with you, but your vassal of the United States does not give us that ...
It seems clear explained the daily routine in tank forces ..? he he

[A. Privalov]

Quote: Karakut

Quote: A. Privalov

A very authoritative statement.

What is there ..

Quote: A. Privalov

Apparently, you already have considerable experience in negotiating with Israel

History can tell a lot about what ... in communication with you!

Quote: A. Privalov

Do not refuse courtesy, please tell me, what did you manage to get from Israel by force?

After Stalin, nothing yet ... Tightly entrenched there for such a short period!
We would have quickly figured out with you, but your vassal of the United States does not give us that ...
It seems clear explained the daily routine in tank forces ..? he he

Well, if nothing else, nothing is empty-handed.
Yes, entrenched well. Some of the neighbors had to pinch their tails for this. 70 years - not a pound of raisins.
And who are these "WE", gathered with Israel to understand? And where are they hiding?

[Karakut]

Quote: A. Privalov

Well, if nothing else, nothing is empty-handed.

All of Russia is "empty call" ..? Oh well.
.

Quote: A. Privalov

Yes, entrenched well. Some of the neighbors had to pinch their tails for this. 70 years - not a pound of raisins.

For 70 years, the United States has been covering you and supplying everything that you demand ... But you cannot destroy Syria and Iran! The revival of the Middle East will begin from these countries and you will have to reckon with them ... (of course, when they have modern weapons)))

[Krasnodar]

Quote: Karakut

Quote: A. Privalov

Well, if nothing else, nothing is empty-handed.

All of Russia is "empty call" ..? Oh well.
.

Quote: A. Privalov

Yes, entrenched well. Some of the neighbors had to pinch their tails for this. 70 years - not a pound of raisins.

For 70 years, the United States has been covering you and supplying everything that you demand ... But you cannot destroy Syria and Iran! The revival of the Middle East will begin from these countries and you will have to reckon with them ... (of course, when they have modern weapons)))

In 67,70,73 and 82, the Arabs had the most modern weapons. And not only. The result of the wars remind you? :)
The USA has supported Israel for about 40 years.

[Karakut]

Quote: Krasnodar

The USA has supported Israel for about 40 years.

I agree, leave me alone ..)))) Together with Privalov and all your gang from Israel and not only ..!
PS I’ll talk with you gangsters and blackbirds you our site ...
And you, that men sit, having bent heads and having shut up tongues ..? That's always in Russia

[Krasnodar]

Quote: Karakut

Quote: Krasnodar

The USA has supported Israel for about 40 years.

I agree, leave me alone ..)))) Together with Privalov and all your gang from Israel and not only ..!
PS I’ll talk with you gangsters and blackbirds you our site ...
And you, that men sit, having bent heads and having shut up tongues ..? That's always in Russia

He he
Talk, wait, s))))

[Karakut]

Quote: Krasnodar

He he
Talk, wait, s))))

Remember the men ..! They are now managing the site, etc.

[Maki Avellevich]

Quote: Karakut

Remember the men ..! They are now managing the site, etc.

if they they ruled the site, you would now be on the fence in your yard, express yourself in three letters.

[Oleg7700]

Classical: - "... who else wants negotiations?" Finally, directly to al-Jazeera, the outstanding Israeli orientalist Dr. Mordechai Kedar from Bar Ilan University (more than 100.000.000 views of Arabs ...) http://www.mignews.com/news/arabisrael/191217_131
811_88573.html Yes, today Hamas in Gaza has proposed bombing Ramallah with Abu Mazen, as he is now responsible for launching missiles after the "unification" ...

[Tramp1812]

Nothing has changed since the recognition of Jerusalem as the capital of Israel by the United States. And before this recognition, all countries without exception, including Arab countries that have diplomatic relations with our country, presented their credentials and agremans to
Jerusalem All the heads of state arriving in Israel are received by the first persons of the country in Jerusalem, all the ministries and the Knesset of the Armed Forces are again in Jerusalem. That is - in fact, and not in words, Jerusalem is recognized as the capital of Israel. USA - recognized in deed and in words. There was a noise, but decorative. Like the VO site. But in reality ...
In the EU, Hungary thwarted the discussion of this issue. It would not be Hungary, it would do Poland, Bulgaria. The Czech President openly declared his pro-Israeli position, and the Russian Foreign Ministry emphasized that he did not share the position of world extremist Erdogan on this issue. The UN Security Council vetoed the resolution. And it seems not only the states.
Well, the Arabs will not receive Jerusalem, which they never belonged to and never passed to the UN. Israel does not claim Bethlehem, although it could. Well, let them settle there. Although, Israel does not mind giving away some areas with the Arab population near Jerusalem. Arabs can declare this their historic victory and call these enclaves not the Hebrew word "Jerusalem", but whatever. At least El Quds, at least El Quds. But the fact of the matter is that the Palestinians do not want to form their own state, because living at the Jewish expense is much more comfortable. The experience of Israel abandoned, captured and destroyed by Israel in Gaza - like Class's ashes knocking on Arab hearts. Surrendering to animals with horror in their stomachs.

[Eurodav]

Quote: professor

Quote: assa67

Jerusalem is the capital of all religions, and Israel’s desire to “squeeze” it under itself is a provocation supported by a springboard ....

Find the mention of Jerusalem in the Qur'an and we will give Jerusalem to the Muslims.

The Russian minister notes that Russia favors the immediate resumption of Palestinian-Israeli dialogue with a view to de-escalating the conflict.

So what? Are the Philistines ready? By the way, we are always ready for negotiations without preconditions.

"Find the mention of Jerusalem in the Qur'an and we will give Jerusalem to Muslims ..."
Who are you to give / not give something? You don’t take much on yourself? Press the sofa further and do not rush with loud phrases!

[CAPTIVE]

Lavrov is far from Moses, but to lead them into a mess, someone must .. hehe Otherwise, the bloody massacre will begin again in the world ..!

[Gonchar]

Well, Hamas Shmamas. we read and enlighten: https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/.premi
um-1.829791

[let's say]

Quote: professor

Find the mention of Jerusalem in the Qur'an and we will give Jerusalem to the Muslims.

So, how long will the new edition print? Extended and augmented.

[Conductor]

Lavrov than an owl from the movie about Winnie the Pooh reminds.

[Zina389]

Everything is very simple. Netanyahu asked: “Ivanka, can the PAPA say something like this so that these Palestinians will take us away from us? They don’t want jihad, they don’t want to be autonomous, and they don’t just want to be the Arab state No. 24, but they want to own Jerusalem, as Unesque bequeathed, and that the whole world should come to them to bow. " Ivanka smiled mysteriously and said: “Don’t be sad older, go in peace” ... I returned to Nathaniyah, looking, Abu Mazen was sitting with a broken trough. Let Lavrov first glue the trough.

[assa67]

Quote: dcvdv

For some evangelists, this is the culmination of history. And Trump takes them there. To the promised court, to their sure victory. The righteous will appear before Heaven; the condemned will be cast out into hellfire. ”

i.e. you consider trump a kind of prophet ...