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ZVO artillerymen received the latest Msta-CM2 howitzers

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The artillerymen of the combined-arms army of the Western Military District (ZVO) received the latest Msta-CM2 howitzers, the press service of the district reports


ZVO artillerymen received the latest Msta-CM2 howitzers


The gunners of the new artillery unit of the combined-arms army of the ZVO, stationed in the Moscow region, received over 10 self-propelled howitzers 2С33 "Msta-CM2"
- the report says.

A deep modernization of the combat fleet of artillery formations will enhance the combat capabilities of the combined arms army during defensive and offensive operations, as well as create new opportunities for motorized infantry to incorporate arthritis into reconnaissance and strike circuits during joint tactical exercises and exercises
- said the commander of the combined army ZVO Major General Alexander Peryazev.

The Msta-CM2 howitzer is intended for the destruction of artillery and mortar batteries, armored vehicles, air defense and missile defense systems, anti-tank weapons, as well as enemy manpower. The basis of the 2X33 Msta-CM2 firepower is the 2A65 152-mm caliber gun with a speed of more than 10 rounds per minute, which is higher than other artillery systems. In addition, by the end of this year, around 10 of the latest Sturm-S anti-tank missile systems will go into service with artillery formations, the release says.
Photos used:
Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation
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  1. san4es
    san4es 19 December 2017 14: 21 New
    +7
    ZVO gunners received the latest Msta-SM2 howitzers
    soldier
  2. NEXUS
    NEXUS 19 December 2017 14: 26 New
    +4
    Mste would have increased the range from 29 km to 40-50 and it would have been wonderful. Well, and pull the rate of fire to the Coalition at 16 rounds per minute.
    1. DenZ
      DenZ 19 December 2017 14: 30 New
      +6
      This will then be the result of the Coalition
      1. NEXUS
        NEXUS 19 December 2017 14: 30 New
        +5
        Quote: DenZ
        This will then be the result of the Coalition

        The Coalition has a range of 70 km.
        1. parkello
          parkello 19 December 2017 14: 45 New
          +5
          with new shells yes. but Msta shoots old. and there is a different composition. and another gunpowder and the shell itself. most likely Mstu was modified so that it could shoot with both types of shells. and the new ones are still in line production.
          1. NEXUS
            NEXUS 19 December 2017 14: 51 New
            +4
            Quote: parkello
            and there is a different composition. and another powder

            You are right, the gunpowder in our country is worse than the Western ones, and no matter how successful a projectile would be, because of the gunpowder it will not give out what we would like.
            1. parkello
              parkello 19 December 2017 15: 13 New
              +3
              in any case, the new gunpowder will improve performance. even if not as much as I would like. but ... give up because of this is not worth it. a lot of time and money spent already. much confused. just in order to embody all this in hardware and put on stream, you need a lot of things. the same storage facilities need new ones. production needs new machine tools and equipment, and this is all oh how costly. here min.ob is on the path of least resistance. Msta, and so it is not very annoying by itself. but all this is not a Coalition. and it is necessary to put it on the flow .and all the components associated with it. It seems to me that I don’t pretend to be an expert. But I just want to note that the best serial howitzer ПЦХб-2000 (panzerhaubits) also shoots up to 30 km with conventional shells on 57 exaliburs. so I believe that the characteristics of Msta satisfy the military.
              1. Vlad.by
                Vlad.by 19 December 2017 15: 59 New
                0
                And why didn’t the Coalition please the series? The price is not fundamentally different, and the TTX is decently in the black.
            2. ProkletyiPirat
              ProkletyiPirat 19 December 2017 16: 03 New
              +2
              we have normal gunpowder, do not compare with NATO, especially with NATO! our tolerances are stricter, but no one will tell you that in winter, in cold weather from -10, NATO begin to shoot differently, or that in cold weather from -20 ...- 30 they can’t shoot at all (although they seem to have shells up to -40 ) So our gunpowder is no worse, or rather in terms of power, it’s worse, but they are more stable. hi
              1. Simargl
                Simargl 19 December 2017 19: 51 New
                +3
                The fact is that gunpowder is not something that burns and gasses. Now this is a complicated thing, (even technically) with a bunch of additives that stabilize this powder, make it burn in the right mode, etc.
                In addition, the volume of the chamber of the NATO systems is larger in volume, and therefore the gunpowder is more.
              2. parkello
                parkello 20 December 2017 11: 54 New
                +2
                I understand this is in my garden pebbles about comparing gunpowder? so, I'm not comparing anything. I just remind you that the Coalition was created under a new shell, and a completely different gunpowder. which is, but not in line production. that is, it can be obtained in very modest quantities, which is not enough to even fill the storage facilities in the next 10 years. By the way, the repositories themselves also need to be rebuilt. but about the fact that the NATO weapon at -30 does not shoot it is nonsense and sewn with white thread. everything works great. at -40 and below. in the same Norway and Alaska, and in Germany itself -30 is not uncommon in the winter, it’s not for you central Africa anyway.
                1. ProkletyiPirat
                  ProkletyiPirat 20 December 2017 14: 19 New
                  0
                  I didn’t write that not shoots, shoots, then shoots, only the combustion process is very different which leads to a deterioration in the accuracy of shooting, that is, with one batch of shots, within the storage of one machine (if we are talking about self-propelled guns) it turns out that the shots fly very differently, while shooting in the summer such an error does not occur.
          2. Alexander Abdrakhmanov
            Alexander Abdrakhmanov 20 December 2017 09: 14 New
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            I forgot to write - that shells under the barrel are driven by a file, otherwise the military will not understand your designers.
        2. Lexus
          Lexus 19 December 2017 14: 54 New
          +3
          70 km is the new ARS. In principle, I see no obstacles to adapt it for the "Msta".
          1. ProkletyiPirat
            ProkletyiPirat 19 December 2017 16: 07 New
            +2
            nafig these tens of kilometers are not needed, you’ll get the hell out of accuracy, at distances of over 20-30 km the MLRS is more effective, especially when shooting at 70 km ...
            1. Simargl
              Simargl 19 December 2017 19: 53 New
              +1
              At 70 km, no one will shoot a simple grenade - they will take an adjustable shell.
              1. ProkletyiPirat
                ProkletyiPirat 19 December 2017 20: 53 New
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                So I’m talking about that, that the MLRS is more effective than self-propelled guns at long-range shooting with the use of adjustable shells, because the correction systems are the same, but the MLRS has higher mass and warhead volume, hence the MLRS shot will be more effective. at the same cost of the correction system.
        3. assa67
          assa67 19 December 2017 14: 59 New
          +5
          Andrei, well, he again removed it from his tongue .... equip with new hemp powder and fly to Berlin ... or until the junk is shot, will there be silence?
          1. NEXUS
            NEXUS 19 December 2017 15: 03 New
            +5
            Quote: assa67
            Andrei, well, he again removed it from his tongue .... equip with new hemp powder and fly to Berlin ... or until the junk is shot, will there be silence?

            Silence for the new gunpowder. There are cannabis-based developments, there is flax-based developments ... but all this is not yet in industrial production.
            1. assa67
              assa67 19 December 2017 15: 12 New
              +7
              agree, it's annoying ... if we rely on art systems, then they should be the best
        4. karelia-molot
          karelia-molot 19 December 2017 20: 00 New
          0
          There will be a carbine based on the coalition)
  3. cannabis
    cannabis 19 December 2017 14: 46 New
    0
    And "over ten" is how much, ten and a half or eleven? The "Sturm - S" complexes delighted me, about 30 years ago ..... I especially liked the black thumb button for pointing the rocket.
    1. Krasnoyarsk
      Krasnoyarsk 19 December 2017 15: 07 New
      +1
      I also admired this - "over ten." But something else excites me. As I understand it, not only Msta-SM2 is capable of waging a counter-battery struggle. Although I’m not an artilleryman, I understand that any art can wage such a struggle. system. The main thing is intelligence. Revealing art. enemy positions. And according to the reports of the same "VO" we have a complete openwork with this matter. Again - drones. And the LDNR artillerymen allow the APU adversaries to destroy their cities and kill civilians. What does it mean? Can someone clearly explain this to me?
      1. Krasnoyarsk
        Krasnoyarsk 19 December 2017 15: 10 New
        +1
        And, after that, I don’t think that the Armed Forces of Ukraine have an incredible number of art. systems in stock.
      2. cannabis
        cannabis 19 December 2017 15: 22 New
        0
        Type in the search engine PSNR, SNAR, sound reconnaissance.
        1. Krasnoyarsk
          Krasnoyarsk 19 December 2017 15: 40 New
          +1
          Knowing all this, I ask my question.
  4. Morglenn
    Morglenn 19 December 2017 15: 42 New
    0
    2С33, what kind of new modification? Wikipedia says that it is an experimental machine and development stopped in favor of the “Coalition”. Is it 2S19M2 or are these two different cars?
  5. Nemesis
    Nemesis 19 December 2017 15: 58 New
    +1
    Such amounts of weather won't do
    1. Funnels
      Funnels 19 December 2017 16: 10 New
      +4
      A little chicken pecking. It is clear that you want everything at once, but our country is large, and the army is not small.
      1. Nemesis
        Nemesis 19 December 2017 16: 14 New
        +2
        I can’t agree with people like you .... 1) Russia needs a certain amount of military equipment to ensure its national security. 2) For a long time, Russia did not spend money on the army using the legacy of the USSR, but this legacy has almost exhausted itself. 3) Today, the pace of supply of new equipment does not correspond at all to the needs of the armed forces of the Russian Federation, because old equipment, for technical reasons, is being withdrawn from the armed forces faster than a new one arriving for its replacement.
  6. Lopatov
    Lopatov 19 December 2017 16: 33 New
    0
    In the photo - 155-mm export version of the SG
  7. groks
    groks 19 December 2017 19: 26 New
    0
    In any case, the latest is not Msta, but the Coalition. Even after the national Jewish procedure. Conceptually new. But something is deaf with her.
    What 10 good self-propelled guns near Moscow (!) Decide, in terms of our defense ....
  8. NG inform
    NG inform 20 December 2017 17: 23 New
    0
    Over 10 - it sounds weird. I understand they would say - over 100. And so - 11 or what?