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Siemens continues cooperation with Russia. In anger Ukraine

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German radio station Deutsche Welle publishes the material, which says that Siemens did not break off the partnership with Russia after the scandal with the sale of gas turbines. Recall that Russia acquired turbines from Siemens, and then supplied them as its property for the construction of power stations in the Crimea. In Ukraine and in the West, the German company was accused of violating the sanctions regime, and at Siemens itself they were forced to state that they were suing a Russian company that transported turbines to the Crimea peninsula.


After that, the West stated that Siemens allegedly could “refuse to cooperate with Russian firms.” However, only those naive people, who are not aware of the fact that German Siemens in Russia has been operating for more than a century with constant profit, could say so. And now the cooperation continues.

Siemens continues cooperation with Russia. In anger Ukraine


Siemens is going to take part in the project to build a steam and gas power plant in the Republic of Tatarstan. The station will be built in the city of Nizhnekamsk. More power will be about 500 MW.

DW reports that Siemens will manufacture and supply 2 SGT5-2000 turbines and one ST-600 steam turbine for the station. Also, the German company is ready to supply power distribution equipment in Nizhnekamsk. The contract value is about 380 million euros.

According to the latest data, the station will begin to operate in the 2021 year.

With extreme negative news about the continuation of the cooperation of the German company Siemens with the Russian partners was perceived in Ukraine, stating that the German company ignored the sanctions measures against the "Russian aggressor".
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  1. Aristarkh Lyudvigovich
    Aristarkh Lyudvigovich 19 December 2017 13: 02 New
    +6
    Siemens has been operating in Russia since the 19 century. And in this case, Siemens apparently decided not to miss a major contract for which it fought a year ago with General Electric.
    1. Vard
      Vard 19 December 2017 13: 04 New
      +6
      All the software for this company is written in Russia ... So it’s still necessary to see who will whip someone ...
      1. Shura Perm
        Shura Perm 19 December 2017 13: 06 New
        +8
        those who pay cooperate with those ... hohlonshchebrydy let them cut off
      2. Jedi
        Jedi 19 December 2017 13: 08 New
        13
        Quote: Vard
        So it’s still necessary to look who will whip whom ...

        Yes, no one will bend anyone. Pragmatic Germans will not engage in nonsense to please the United States, but will do their job. yes
        1. Going
          Going 19 December 2017 13: 14 New
          +6
          But the United States will crush them with terrible force, God forbid they survive.
          1. Jedi
            Jedi 19 December 2017 13: 34 New
            +7
            There will be, no one doubts this. But Siemens must understand that you need to defend your position, and not turn to the States with their pants down.
            1. Going
              Going 19 December 2017 14: 26 New
              +5
              I hope they calculated everything, we work through the euro, and let Siemens protect his accounts in a different currency.
              1. Jedi
                Jedi 19 December 2017 14: 30 New
                +5
                That’s what they mean: they want to work, they need to think through their actions, and we should not forget about coordination with the Russian side. wink
                1. Going
                  Going 19 December 2017 14: 34 New
                  +5
                  Our market is not the last for them, so let them dodge.
        2. Alexander 3
          Alexander 3 19 December 2017 13: 19 New
          +3
          Of course it’s bad that we don’t make turbines at home, although our software is. But Ukrainians and not Ukrainians can shoot themselves from anger or hang themselves. We’ll give the ropes with soap.
          1. Monos
            Monos 19 December 2017 16: 14 New
            +5
            With extreme negativity, the news ... was received in Ukraine, saying that the German company ignores sanctions against the "Russian aggressor".

            Well yes, ignores it. So, after all, they are not Ukrainians, they don’t carry pots. Therefore, they do not know that for the happiness of dill, you need to abandon your profit and shit yourself in bloomers. smile
          2. dubovitskiy.1947
            dubovitskiy.1947 20 December 2017 01: 05 New
            0
            Quote: Alexander 3
            Of course it’s bad that we don’t make turbines at home, although our software is. But Ukrainians and not Ukrainians can shoot themselves from anger or hang themselves. We’ll give the ropes with soap.

            We can put dill posts for the gallows. For self catering.
        3. 79807420129
          79807420129 19 December 2017 13: 22 New
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          Quote: Jedi
          Yes, no one will bend anyone. Pragmatic Germans will not engage in nonsense to please the United States, but will do their job.

          Max hi I completely agree that all this bootlegging with turbines is just a fight between Siemens and General Electric, if striped turbines had been delivered to the Crimea nobody would have smelled money. laughing Here is a sweet couple
          1. Jedi
            Jedi 19 December 2017 13: 37 New
            +6
            It has long been clear that the States do not care for everyone and everything, except their own mercantile Wishlist. Glavnyuk really do not like that the Russians work with the Germans (Siemens), and not with them. Any rapprochement between Russia and Germany is like a Faberge sickle. yes
      3. dorz
        dorz 19 December 2017 13: 22 New
        +2
        The trade turnover between the Russian Federation and Germany increased by 2016% compared to 23. There is an understanding that sanctions harm everyone.
    2. Sergey53
      Sergey53 19 December 2017 13: 25 New
      +1
      Quote: Aristarkh Lyudvigovich
      Siemens has been operating in Russia since the 19 century. And in this case, Siemens apparently decided not to miss a major contract for which it fought a year ago with General Electric.

      In the West, they recognized that this direction is coming to its final and began to curtail the production of turbines. And we are only developing. Who will throw a promising market?
  2. Loess
    Loess 19 December 2017 13: 02 New
    +1
    Does Siemens really substitute or money doesn't smell?
    1. Cxnumx
      Cxnumx 19 December 2017 13: 10 New
      +3
      of course "don't smell". they can even sue again later - all costs have already been laid and calculated))
    2. Aristarkh Lyudvigovich
      Aristarkh Lyudvigovich 19 December 2017 13: 10 New
      +2
      Yes, no one is substituted. Here, the American General Electric has already delivered under the 2014 contract of the year a large power unit with a capacity of 405 MW TAIF to its Kazan TPP-3. TAIF has now chosen Siemens.
    3. Geisenberg
      Geisenberg 19 December 2017 13: 14 New
      +3
      Quote: Less
      Does Siemens really substitute or money doesn't smell?


      An example of how people with big money put a bolt on howls of mongrel.
      1. faridg7
        faridg7 19 December 2017 13: 32 New
        +1
        Quote: Geisenberg
        Quote: Less
        Does Siemens really substitute or money doesn't smell?


        An example of how people with big money put a bolt on howls of mongrel.

        This is an example of how people, for big (and not very big) money, put a bolt on the principles of society, the state, and even civilization. For banknotes, they will do what they condemn if this money is not promised.
    4. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA 19 December 2017 13: 18 New
      +6
      Capital ... avoids noise and abuse and is characterized by a fearful nature. It is true, but that is not the whole truth. Capital is afraid of lack of profit or profit too small, just as nature is afraid of emptiness. But once sufficient profit is available, capital becomes bold. Provide 10%, and the capital agrees to any use, with 20% it becomes lively, with 50% it is positively ready to break its head, with 100% it violates all human laws, with 300% there is no crime that it would not risk, at least under pain of the gallows. If noise and abuse bring profit, capital will contribute to both. Evidence: smuggling and trafficking in slaves.
      © Thomas Joseph Dunning
      “Siemens”, for show, went to court - with a predetermined result. Then he spread his hands: "Well, I couldn’t, I couldn’t ...", - and continued cooperation.
    5. Lexus
      Lexus 19 December 2017 13: 29 New
      +5
      Does Siemens really substitute or money doesn't smell?

      Siemens experts are ready for the consequences of "angry" criticism from the 404 chamber ... laughing
    6. d ^ Amir
      d ^ Amir 19 December 2017 13: 48 New
      +2
      Yes, no one is substituted anywhere !!!!! sanctions against deliveries to Crimea !!! in the rest of Russia, at least for every bush !!! wells .... gas ....
  3. Bullba
    Bullba 19 December 2017 13: 04 New
    +3
    Maybe it's time to do mine!
    1. Vard
      Vard 19 December 2017 13: 12 New
      +2
      Well, these turbines are not so German ...
  4. Vitas
    Vitas 19 December 2017 13: 08 New
    0
    Import substitution in action, so to speak.
  5. Coconut
    Coconut 19 December 2017 13: 12 New
    +2
    Castrolegolov only to yell .. no matter what the reason ... the rain has gone .. glory to Ukraine ... the snow has gone .. hmm .. the glory of Ukraine .. something like that wassat wassat
  6. Geisenberg
    Geisenberg 19 December 2017 13: 13 New
    +4
    These are only interested in the aggressor ... Who needs a lousy bath.
  7. Vasilenko Vladimir
    Vasilenko Vladimir 19 December 2017 13: 13 New
    +2
    Germans believe that money was made for the sake of sight, it is quite possible that all the noise was planned, and the Siemens management was in the know from the very beginning
  8. The Siberian barber
    The Siberian barber 19 December 2017 13: 15 New
    0
    "like, il don't like, sleep my beauty" ..)))
    1. The Siberian barber
      The Siberian barber 19 December 2017 13: 18 New
      +1
      Well, Ukrainians ..?)) Well, they are possessed, let them rage))
  9. Omskgasmyas
    Omskgasmyas 19 December 2017 13: 20 New
    +2
    It is necessary to look at what they are doing, and not at what they say.
    Now they like to raise informational noise for any reason.
    Screens and media are provided to talkers, that is, liberals.
    And professionals are quietly doing their job.
  10. CommanderDIVA
    CommanderDIVA 19 December 2017 13: 31 New
    +1
    Siemens got rid of the contract for turbines in the Crimea rather only by prior agreement of the parties
  11. iliitchitch
    iliitchitch 19 December 2017 13: 39 New
    0
    It was enough for me 3 times from different sources to read on the Internet dump about Siemens deliveries of furnaces for crematoria, how for me this noble gang ceased to exist, point ru. The old teapot even threw away. They did not even rebrand. "partners," say? I'm not a fan of the Jews, I just don’t like freaks. I don’t give a damn what’s going to be written about it. Fascists and terrorists - to the Landfill of History.
    1. Clyde barrow
      Clyde barrow 19 December 2017 14: 46 New
      +4
      Read about many other companies that supplied Nazi Germany, including American ones, and you have to throw out not only a kettle)
  12. anjey
    anjey 19 December 2017 15: 02 New
    +2
    After that, the West stated that Siemens allegedly could “refuse to cooperate with Russian firms.” However, only those naive people, who are not aware of the fact that German Siemens in Russia has been operating for more than a century with constant profit, could say so. And now the cooperation continues.
    here we have installed a new Siemens turbine at the power plant this year, and there was a “Man” trophy from the time of Hitler, so we give twice the megawatt ....
  13. Nemesis
    Nemesis 19 December 2017 15: 47 New
    +1
    Judging by the rallies in Poland with posters ,, Polish Lviv '' and the full and final approval by the German government of the construction of the “Nord Stream-2 '', Bandera’s friends are becoming less and less ...
  14. gloomy fox
    gloomy fox 19 December 2017 16: 28 New
    +1
    No one who is sober-minded will break off the cooperation that is beneficial for himself. And those who did it under pressure from the United States, that weak-willed hilyak who has no opinion and willpower. So Ukraine does not understand what is pouting. The Crimea has left you because of your fault, here it is Lokot don't bite him.
  15. Incvizitor
    Incvizitor 19 December 2017 18: 27 New
    0
    stating that the German firm is ignoring sanctions against the "Russian aggressor."

    And they stamped the leg.
  16. NF68
    NF68 19 December 2017 19: 01 New
    +3
    As soon as the United States lifted a series of sanctions from Iran to Iran, the Germans immediately rushed to the distillations, mainly from Bavaria, and the French. And to leave Russia for Simmens would be generally stupid. To lose such a market when the United States does not know which fortress can be thrown out, no one in their right mind will.
  17. gromoboj
    gromoboj 19 December 2017 19: 36 New
    0
    USSR also bought turbines from Siemens? Or did they know how to do their own?
    1. dubovitskiy.1947
      dubovitskiy.1947 20 December 2017 01: 31 New
      0
      Quote: gromoboj
      USSR also bought turbines from Siemens? Or did they know how to do their own?

      We did low power ourselves. To organize production in single copies, and only for yourself, it is very expensive. The fact is that the development price, which is several times more expensive than the turbine itself, is decomposed not into many turbines, but into several. Specialization of the manufacturer on one or two types of products and manufacturing for many consumers, including in other countries, is much cheaper. Factor of. For example, we always bought printing equipment in Finland. Own only for local newspapers, one-color printing, and small formats.