Bitcoin - the currency of the criminal world

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December 18 started trading bitcoin futures on the world's oldest commodity exchange, the Chicago Mercantile Exchange. A week earlier, similar trading took place on the Chicago Raw Materials Exchange. Thus, the US exchanges officially joined the work with this greatest criminal monetary unit of the world.



Today, cryptocurrencies have become an integral part of the modern world. More recently, they were the mischief of a handful of originals, and today the need for them has grown so much that the growth rate of the first such Bitcoin currency has exceeded all imaginable limits.

Bitcoin - the currency of the criminal world


What is the secret of such growth and how can all this end? To answer these questions, one has to figure out why cryptocurrencies have become so popular today.

All "shadow" and criminals love cash. With nalom simple. I gave the goods, got the money, and no one asks you where you got them from. The main thing - do not get the labeled money, and it's in the bag. Everything became much more difficult when the world began to move from cash to bank transfer. Gradually, the main cash flows began to pass into non-cash circulation, which allowed state structures to control a significant part of them.



While the dollar was expensive (to gold), and the proceeds from criminal activity were estimated at millions of “bucks,” everything was simple. Couriers could carry bags of money and pay them to customers. Everything became much more complicated when the volume of criminal business grew, and he himself transformed and occupied new niches, where it was no longer possible to manage without the services of banks.

Bankers loved to launder money for the underworld. It was profitable, and not just profitable, but very profitable. And this caused a real jealousy in any state that didn’t like very much when someone earns a lot and does not share their income.

Or earned is not the one to whom it was laid on the status.

That is why any state has always tried to put shadow money flows under its full control. Moreover, the more developed the progress in the field of information technology, the more the states became the means for such control. It got to the point that the leading world countries almost completely squeezed the cash out of circulation, which greatly complicated their lives to excessively enterprising fellow citizens.

In general, there were plenty of reasons for the appearance of funds not controlled by any state. And because it could not appear. And at first it was just like pampering.

Pizza for 10 bitcoin 000. The horror, how much is this on today's course! And that was just 7 years ago.



I never believe in a fairy tale that a cryptocurrency is emitted according to a certain and very honest algorithm. These are all fables for those who must believe in the honesty of this structure and invest money there. As in any monetary system of the world, it has its own emission center, which generates "coins" and is ready to change them to our usual currencies. That is, we get money from nothing. We give you money, you give us money, and we guarantee that ... In general, who needs it, we guarantee everything. Moreover, we guarantee complete anonymity of your deposits and transfers.

This is the main feature of all cryptocurrencies. There is a sender and there is a recipient, and between them there is no intermediary in the person of the central bank.

Yes, by the way, it is cryptocurrency and their almost uncontrolled turnover help officials today to avoid suspicion of corruption. Where did you get a million, ask? Yes, just bought Bitcoins on time.

And there is nothing funny about it. For example, some Ukrainian officials have already taken advantage of this opportunity to legalize their dishonestly earned capital.

In general, as we already understood, Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies have become so popular not by chance. The “world” market is already ripe for their appearance and even over-ripe, and therefore they have occupied the niche allotted to them.

Someone allotted ... A very good question. Let's reason logically. Here you are able to negotiate with the global stock exchanges and financial institutions to exchange a dummy for money?



And we are talking about tens of billions of dollars. On the day, of course. You can not? But those who control the "world" cryptocurrency today, maybe. Who could it be? I can not imagine. It is visible, to nobody known programmers. Who else.

In essence, what is any cryptocurrency of the world today? It is such a virtual world bank in which the conditional currency is turned around. This bank has connections with real world currencies (and real live connections), allowing to convert made-up dummies into money. Ideal for enrichment.

Much more profitable than the drug trade, prostitution and what else is there.

And it is not surprising that the new currency was literally immediately divided into several. After all, it is impossible to own such a wealth to one person or one group of persons. At the same time, there were many who wanted to make money on it, and therefore Bitcoin broke up into many different "Coin". And, probably, the crushing process is not over yet.

So the whole picture is clear. You can proceed to the conclusions.



Whoever invented Bitcoin has nothing to do with those who own it today. In fact, it is the newest financial instrument, which is much more profitable than the American dollar. In fact, it is a private currency that the owner can raise and lower himself as he pleases, constantly receiving income (as he plays with labeled cards). At the same time, the demand for cryptocurrencies is large enough, which allows their owners to hope not for a one-time jackpot, like Mavrodi with his MMM, but for a long, comfortable existence. In general, a good idea occurred to someone with these “coin” as they are there.
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  1. +5
    19 December 2017 16: 15
    I liked the article. At the current rate, bitcoin is practically not available for the general population. I'm interested here
    I never believe in a fairy tale that cryptocurrency is issued according to a specific and very honest algorithm.
    what exactly are miners calculating for receiving cryptocurrency, because these are probably tens of thousands of computers that are busy calculating some calculations around the clock. What are these calculations? Or am I not understanding something?
    1. +4
      19 December 2017 16: 28
      In fact, it’s still simpler than a “farm” - this is a cover for a financial scam, and they work on NSA servers, because it’s easier for them to pay “farmers” than to create another analytical center in some region! Two birds with one stone are killed right away, you can write off dollar debts and process Old from the network!
      1. dSK
        +4
        19 December 2017 17: 08
        Quote: Hammer 75
        financial scam

        The global pyramid. Mavrodi is resting, I remember selling apartments - they bought "Mavrodiki", then they stormed the offices of MMM. Now there’s no one to storm.
        1. dSK
          +4
          19 December 2017 17: 31
          "The people behind the US Federal Reserve understand that the era of global hegemony of the American currency is coming to an end. In the modern world, a currency is first and foremost an issuer’s reputation, and the United States is getting worse and worse every year. A backup airfield is needed. Blockchain allows track the fate of every bitcoin since its creation. It is not known exactly who is behind the creation of bitcoin itself. Some media outlets name a certain Japanese programmer Satoshi Nakamoto, however, as it turned out, such an alias hid an "anonymous group of programmers" who wrote the Bitcoin protocol. the fact also speaks in favor of the version that behind the creation of Bitcoin is by no means anonymous online community, but global financial elites. " (Channel "Tsargrad" 16: 48., 18.12.17/XNUMX/XNUMX)
          1. +3
            19 December 2017 21: 27
            I remember the first episode of "Star Wars"
            1. 0
              19 December 2017 23: 06
              I do not have bitcoins, and most likely I will no longer have it.
              Just wondering, most likely, all this ingenious design will collapse ..
              1. +1
                20 December 2017 14: 01
                Bitcoins have two properties:
                1) Stealth. You can make any transaction, have any condition. Nobody will know about them.
                2) Irrevocability. If the money has left you and you have been deceived, you will not be able to prove the fact of fraud in court and return the money.
                So such a currency is needed by the mafia, financial tycoons and politicians. Perhaps Bitcoins will find flaws, and will be replaced by another. But such a currency will be widespread. It's unavoidable.
        2. +4
          19 December 2017 19: 03
          Quote from dsk
          The global pyramid. Mavrodi is resting, I remember selling apartments - they bought "Mavrodiki", then they stormed the offices of MMM. Now there’s no one to storm.

          From today's news: - Emil Oldenburg, the technical director and one of the co-founders of the Bitcoin.com website, decided to get rid of all the accumulations in the cryptocurrency. belay According to him: "such investments are risky." request I suspect that he knows something more than he says. Yes
          PS And here it looks - the most correct mining! good Note that even electricity is not needed. lol
          laughing laughing laughing
        3. +1
          19 December 2017 19: 22
          There will be a Big Bang when it collapses. Like any "pyramid" ..
          Quote from dsk
          Quote: Hammer 75
          financial scam

          The global pyramid. Mavrodi is resting, I remember selling apartments - they bought "Mavrodiki", then they stormed the offices of MMM. Now there’s no one to storm.
    2. +2
      19 December 2017 17: 21
      At the current rate, bitcoin is practically not available for the general population

      I read that they want to turn Bitcoin into "digital gold." As well as 1 bitcoin, 1 bar of gold is not available to the common population. Moreover, like gold has carats, a measure for evaluating small parts, so does bitcoin have satoshi. Satoshi - 1/100000000 part of bitcoin. Personally, I find it difficult to assess this point of view. It's just hard for me to realize.
      With your permission, I will quote a piece from one analytical article, I hope it helps to answer some questions:
      “In theory, cue ball has many fundamental features of gold. Uselessness, eternity, limited stock, anonymity of transactions, the ability to divide into small pieces (remember how Gaddafi sawed his bars), the properties of the treasure. At the same time, in some positions cue ball is much better than gold They are easier to save, incomparably easier to transfer from one end of the Earth to the other, the transaction price is negligible, divisibility into parts is better than gold.
      Gold cue ball just beat in the smoke. If you have gold, then gold must definitely be changed to cue ball without hesitation. Cue ball fill the same practical and / or psychological need - a deep distrust of the states and the future - but they do it much better. At a time when the circus arena without a muzzle Trump, distrust of the states is justified. "
      1. +6
        20 December 2017 06: 43
        Quote: forty-eighth
        “In theory, cue ball has many fundamental features of gold. Uselessness, eternity, limited stock, anonymity of transactions, the ability to divide into small pieces (remember how Gaddafi sawed his bars), the properties of the treasure. At the same time, in some positions cue ball is much better than gold They are easier to save, incomparably easier to transfer from one end of the Earth to the other, the transaction price is negligible, divisibility into parts is better than gold.

        honestly, this is a collection of nonsense from a pseudo-analytic article. gold has three extremely important differences that change absolutely everything: 1) gold has a physical embodiment; 2) gold is not just a piece of useless / useless substance (or code) for anyone - it is really in demand in production; 3) if someone wants to not just buy a digital or paper "certificate", "futures" or whatever there are many more millions, but get it physically, then ... such people will be sent "on", because in the world there is no physical of gold that is sold / bought in the markets every day.
        therefore, when the "analytics" equate the digital ... um ... a set of zeros and units with gold is ridiculous.
        just the buck is getting obsolete, and the Fed is the right new one now absolutely ничем not supported currency.
        Threat forgot an important point, these cryptocurrencies have one bonus that is very popular among billionaires: huge amounts of money can be transferred instantly, without any approvals from banks, tax checks, etc. they really appreciate it.
        1. +2
          20 December 2017 11: 28
          I disastrously agree with you, especially in terms of signs of the value of gold. Well, perhaps, at the third moment I would argue.
          There is an unapplied economic truth / axiom: the principle of "goods (service) -money-goods (service)" is unshakable. The amount of money is proportional to the goods (services) by and large (if you do not take into account the trillions of Zimbabwe). Moreover, this formula obeys the banal laws of the market (including the "markets" under our windows, where grandmothers stand): "supply and demand." And if the pair "demand - supply" will be honest and objective, then the principle of "goods-money-goods" will be eternal.
          And now the question (s):
          - What goods are supported by coins? If there is such reinforcement, then, logically, you go to the nearest stall / store / supermarket and pay with these coins ... Private examples of buying “pizza” for coins cannot be taken into account, because a den.unit becomes a full den.unit only subject to its free and constant exchange for goods. From the current story, I see that coins are bought .... money ??????? Then what is coin? Product? It turns out - NO ....
          Money? - Taki, too, NO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! For in Makhazin they do not accept her.
          And in general, the coin does not have another EIGHT and EIGHT characteristic and EXTREMELY desirable sign of "denyushka": reinforcement with precious metal.
          - Is the demand for these same coins really "honest and objective"? Say - "on the exchange" ... Nurse ...
          For myself, I have long made one conclusion: determining the price on exchanges is a “sell”! Fiction! On which intermediaries earn money! They do not “build” / “do not produce” anything, but only buy-sell-buy stamp paper under guarantees (of states / corporations). The cost of “building a house on the stock exchange” will never be fair, for the white-collar worker wedges into the brick-builder chain.

          And with the coins - and even arrogance !!!!!!!!! They came up with crap, which, unlike the "exchanges with their papers" (also not sugar, but still, at least they give out papers) exists essentially in the cables between the servers, and so far the electrical signal passes through these cables ... Turn off the electricity - And there is no coin ... But the gold coin will remain ...
    3. +1
      19 December 2017 17: 26
      If I am not mistaken, the rate is somewhere around 1BTC = 1 million rubles ± 15%? Then Bitcoin is still available for purchase / sale. That's when the emission is over, then everything, but for now not everything is lost. Even a senior citizen can get 100k satoshi.
      1. +1
        19 December 2017 21: 40
        100к ... it looks like you're in the subject, colleague?) hi
    4. +5
      19 December 2017 17: 35
      Well, the calculations are trivial - brute force keys search, only on a large scale. And about the “money from nothing” - the calculation of the unit flies a pretty penny on the cost of energy and time - there are costs, which means there are incomes. Well, what about the currency of crime - but dollars and euros? They also, if desired, can not be tracked. So with BTC the question is complicated, but the technology itself is extremely useful
    5. +2
      19 December 2017 18: 17
      Quote: Less
      what exactly are miners calculating for receiving cryptocurrency, because these are probably tens of thousands of computers that are busy calculating some calculations around the clock. What are these calculations? Or am I not understanding something?

      they calculate the sequence that will later become bitcoin, and the more people calculate the more difficult it is to calculate, if 10 people are mined, for example, then the laptop is enough to fill bitcoins
  2. +5
    19 December 2017 16: 54
    Quote: Hammer 75
    In fact, it’s still simpler than a “farm” - this is a cover for a financial scam, and they work on NSA servers, because it’s easier for them to pay “farmers” than to create another analytical center in some region! Two birds with one stone are killed right away, you can write off dollar debts and process Old from the network!


    that you as small children, you need to know the enemy in person, the platform is open, you won’t be able to cheat in Bitcoin.

    And the growth in value is exclusively speculative, concrete Vasya seeing that the cost has risen from 10 thousand to 20 thousand - is invested in bitcoins, since the currency is not inflationary, its quantity is limited, which is why this Vasya increases the value, to the delight of itself and other Vasya.

    and so to the question of what bitcoin is provided for - Vasya is provided with bitumen, this is his problem, when critical moments of the appeal make it clear that the matter is bad, Vasya will withdraw money and if there are a lot of them, there can be a wave of withdrawal and the price will collapse
    1. 0
      20 December 2017 10: 19
      The whole topic in the schemes is that no one should guess where the real hare is sitting and to whom it belongs. This is why not launch bitcoin without farms, but simply declare that there is bitcoin (for example, kiwi or Yandex). The whole chip of cryptocurrencies is that the basis of their foundation is the information component, something that can not be touched or put in your pocket. Therefore, the attitude of potential investors was frivolous, and there are farms around the world that are tied to the well-known process of computing network operations. And all the bang is a foundation almost like a regular currency, where the state responds with its authority, and here the whole world is tight. And now the question is, who can sell bitcoins? Turn on your head — no one has yet repealed the laws of trade: how to generate demand for an absolutely unnecessary thing .... It’s very simple to take the PR of this thing out of any scope and all at once there are a lot of gullible people with small amounts ready to invest even in anything they have no idea! And now about Vasya, only he knows the further goal of the next stages of the Bitcoin operation, and most likely there are not even two goals for this operation.
      1. 0
        20 December 2017 11: 12
        The whole chip of cryptocurrencies is that the basis of their foundation is the information component, something that can not be touched or put in your pocket


        You understand correctly, the IT community in Russia and in other countries, all the more, has sorted these algorithms on the shelves. All that is verified and cross-checked there, in fact, bitcoin is an algorithm for how in a group of unfamiliar people one person can trust the word of another that's all. Satoshi developed this algorithm and, as I understand it, implemented it, the thing is open.

        Bitcoin initially declared itself completely crypto-anarchist ideas, it is our misfortune that greedy people turned it into a pyramid.

        And now about Vasya, only he knows the further goal of the next stages of the Bitcoin operation, and most likely there are not even two goals for this operation.

        It was smooth on paper .... Bitcoin has too many critical moments to build any long-term plans on the basis of it.

        Yes, and what plans - pure greed, human greed and a greed system with feedback is called a pyramid))) Yes, and we turned it into a pyramid ourselves, too strong growth attracts new gullible people.
        1. 0
          20 December 2017 11: 29
          I agree with all that has been said, I would like to add that bitcoin is also a test ball to replace national currencies, so our world hegemon will most likely try to saddle it and turn it into a kind of world currency to replace the dollar (as an assumption), if we turn to the works of futurists , almost everywhere the transition to a single world monetary unit is described, as a means for uniting various nations and peoples outside one state. And then the rejection of national sovereignty and the transfer of power to world government. These are just the forecasts of the futurists, and not my opinion on this matter! Imagine if any of the Central Banks of developed countries subscribe to Bitcoin! A revolution in banking matters is guaranteed to you. And the most interesting thing is that in this case, under 100% control, it will not work to take it, because it is still air! Now think about who needs revolution, war, chaos most of all, which country?
          1. 0
            20 December 2017 11: 44
            how the United States relates to cue ball:
            1) the United States already has a dollar and they will not want to replace it with bitcoin, at least because they control the issue of the dollar;
            2) to plant a dollar smoothly and save accumulated in the cue ball? How many of you decide to sell an apartment and buy a cue ball? all the more so since serious people are listening to serious people - there are already statements by analysts and even central bankers about the cue ball, so here it’s also deaf;
            3) it will not work to stir up some schemes through alternative crypts, because altcoins get authority with the approval of IT community, how many altcoins we have already issued, we give everyone equal coins and everyone will be equal - buy our coins, the community looks at them and says show the algorithms that you just do not fool us and all people merge

            I think that the US does not care for the cue ball, it is by itself, and will die too.

            By the way, if we take into account that all its value consists in an increase in value, then the decline will begin when people see price stagnation and begin to take profits - and then the living will envy the dead))))
    2. +1
      20 December 2017 12: 05
      You write: "there may be a wave of withdrawal and the price will collapse“... it’s exceptionally true, only the word“ may ”should be replaced by“ definitely, inevitably and necessarily. ”Paradoxically, I have these coins ... At the current rate, it’s enough to go on a mediocre trip to a restaurant with“ beer and chekushka ”.
      I got these coins absolutely by accident, and found out that I was their owner, also by accident. He played at one time with MMMs, and traded on the market, and he discarded the currency in the dashing 90s. There was nothing to eat, did not get rich, spun. He made a global conclusion for himself: all material and monetary acquisitions should be LOGIC and have an “investigative-causal relationship”, at least for itself, not for the prosecutor’s office, by itself. I don’t see the logic of these very “relations” that would justify the presence of these coins in my wallet. So, as one joke says: "Little Johnny, stay away from this bl ... and away."
      It is better not to argue with the laws of physics, for it will be more expensive for itself: "material will not appear out of the void"; operations with "0" give either "0" or do not make sense; if you didn’t do anything, but acquired something, the ass will be pushed and come inevitably.
      If our planet plays with these coins, then all past crises “on the black days of the week” will be shown by nurseries.
      By the way, I would recommend buying drag.metals, while cranks are buying .... mmmmm .... these are the same, koens.
      1. dSK
        +1
        20 December 2017 22: 41
        Hello Anatoly!
        Quote: seld
        all past crises “on the rainy days of the week” are shown by nurseries.
        You have a real outlook on life. “A family from Simferopol named their son after cryptocurrency. According to the boy’s father, Oleg, the family’s well-being has seriously improved, so he decided to express his“ gratitude to the crypto industry ”. Bitcoin Olegovich born completely healthy, the baby weighs three kilograms. Oleg also came up with names for future children. If the second one is a girl, she will be named after the cryptocurrency Dash Dasha, and if the boy is Satoshi, the name that the mythical creator of bitcoin calls himself. (Channel "Tsargrad" 20: 50., 20.12.17) The kid, when he will receive a passport, will be able to change his nickname to a normal name. hi
        1. dSK
          +1
          20 December 2017 23: 17
          German Gref said that "banks have no future." Famous economist Valentin Katasonov commented on Gref's words. He said that you should not literally translate the term "big date". The main thing is to find information correctly and sell it correctly. That is, in the first place a lot of money, and information is a means. Credit history has existed since the advent of banks. “In fact, it turns out that every step we take, every sneeze, and even every thought we take is controlled. The technological revolution involves creating cyborg, this creature, which is a kind of synthesis of the computer and what we call a person. "(TV channel" Tsargrad "20: 32., 20.12.17) Golden Horde 2.0intellectual, cunning - no chains, no shackles. Beautifully packaged - "democracy and freedom". Slave owners with total control over the whole world.
  3. +1
    19 December 2017 17: 02
    The title is correct, as is the conclusion. In my opinion. But the argument is a kind of vinaigrette from ignorance, multiplied by populism. Let's try in order.
    I never believe in a fairy tale that cryptocurrency is issued according to a specific and very honest algorithm.

    Here it is not necessary to believe, but to study computer science at school. Everything that enters the digital world is either by chance or by chance (randomly, in a modern way). It is absurd to talk about accidents (about randomness) in cryptocurrencies. Then emission (otherwise, mining) would be impossible. Therefore, the emission of crypto obeys the laws, otherwise algorithms. Whether they are honest or not is another question, I doubt that someone is able to answer it.
    1. +1
      19 December 2017 17: 03
      That is, we get money from nothing. We give you “coins”, you give us money

      Replace the word “coins” in the last sentence with “money” and “money” with “goods”. We also get a not-so-obvious construction. Only unobvious it was about 5000 years ago, at the dawn of the emergence of money. Well, or when the dollar was untied from gold. The situation is the same: we give you a piece of paper, you give us a “product”.
      So, what is in the quote is in full agreement with modern economic science.
      1. +2
        19 December 2017 17: 06
        This is such a virtual world bank, in which the conditional currency is wrapped. This bank has connections with real world currencies (and real live connections) that allow you to convert fictitious dummies into money.

        To begin with, money is also a dummy. And it is not surprising that a second-order dummy can be exchanged for a first-order dummy. Yes, indeed, bitcoin is essentially a bank in itself. Transaction information is encrypted in the blocks of bitcoin, allowing you to confirm the uniqueness of the holder. But it is impossible to decipher this information. Bitcoin is anonymous. This was done primarily for safety, so as not to compromise the holders, but as usual, the inhabitants of the dark corners of the world emerge for anonymity.
        And it is not surprising that the new currency was literally immediately divided into several.
        Not immediately. I would even say that more recently.
        Bitcoin has split into many different “coins”

        It broke up, but most of the "altcoins" are independent units. The same Ethereum from Vitalik Buterin - can not be called a fragment of bitcoin. It is independent and also in turn is divided.
        Why this happens - I do not know. But I suspect that the question of the desire to make money is the last thing here. It is quite possible to make money on bitcoin, why split it up for this?

        Indeed, now cryptocurrency is interesting only to crooks and speculators, and this is a dead end path for the development of the instrument, but why for this rather obvious conclusion should we take delusional arguments by the ears?
        1. +1
          19 December 2017 17: 09
          PS
          And we are talking about tens of billions of dollars. On a day, of course.

          The Mosbirze turnover is a billion dollars a day, New York's - 3 trillion dollars a day, Forex - 5 trillion. So up to the "traditional" financial instruments the cue ball is growing and growing.
  4. +2
    19 December 2017 17: 22
    Bitcoin is generally not a currency in the classical sense. This pure pyramid is exactly the same as MMM shares. And taking into account the anonymity and unverifiability of emissions, the ideal criminal tool.
  5. +2
    19 December 2017 18: 20
    The author is simply enraged that he did not buy a couple of thousand bitcoins in 2009 for a few bucks. Now I would be a millionaire.
  6. +3
    19 December 2017 19: 26
    Crypto and blockchain is the "death" of the entire modern banking system. Yes, cryptocurrencies appeared precisely as a product of the criminal (gaming) world and so far have no value other than speculative. But at least one country should recognize crypto as a means of payment of this state on a par with the local currency and confirm its value by all gold reserves, then immediately crypto will turn into a state currency, with all its attributes. Crypto and blockchain allow for the implementation (upon recognition) of interstate payment obligations, bypassing the verification system and transactions of the SWIFT type, which makes them independent of the control of the United States, IMF and other structures and states that freely feel themselves in the financial sector and successfully control it. Crypto and blockchain is financial freedom, a completely new financial world order in which there is no place for banks. But ... unfortunately, the blockchain system is not perfect and does not allow for constant, everyday payments such as those that people are used to doing in stores using electronic cards with currency. - there are simply no such computer capacities in the world that could process so many verification operations from each user. This is the plug of all crypto-so they will either remain a means of exchange trading or perhaps come up with something in terms of direct payment, but so far there is no clearance ...
    1. +1
      20 December 2017 00: 53
      Quote: Monster_Fat
      But ... unfortunately, the blockchain system is not perfect and does not allow for constant, everyday payments such as those that people are used to doing in stores using electronic cards with currency. - there are simply no such computer capacities in the world that could process so many verification operations from each user. This is the plug of all crypto-so they will either remain a means of exchange trading or perhaps come up with something in terms of direct payment, but so far there is no clearance ...

      Well, it’s not so hopeless. Now a lot of talk goes in the direction that existence is national cryptocurrencies would be justified and justified in the sense that they could lend precisely to state "interests" without borrowing from the outside and be 100% sure that this money would be spent on fulfilling government orders without the risk of withdrawing abroad, because then it is also a national cryptocurrency that cannot be cashed into any convertible currency, which is used exclusively for domestic consumption. These operations are not controlled by the Fed and the institutions tied to it such as the Central Banks. Venezuela, for example, considering the introduction of its cryptocurrency, suggests assessing its security based on the evaluation of proven mineral reserves, and not on the rate against the dollar. But bitcoin is essentially a homeless person, because just does not have any "national or state" binding, does not have any economic justification for the current rate of 19.tys. dollars per unit, which speaks in favor of the fact that this course is artificially inflated, which is a sign of a scam. If there are two three-liter cans on the counter in one of which is honey and the other is air, then it is probably difficult to convince the buyer to pay for an empty can the cost thousands of times higher than the cost of a can of honey.
  7. +1
    19 December 2017 21: 07
    Or earned is not the one to whom it was laid on the status.

    The main message of the article
    Money is a commodity (any money used to be the equivalent of gold and other rare earth metals), and like any commodity it has a price. Sberbank today sells 1 ruble for ≈ 1 ruble 20 kopecks (a person who bought 1 ruble from the bank is obliged to sell his ruble 80 kopecks per year)
    The Central Bank of the Russian Federation is a private office, a group of persons engaged in the issue of money in their interests,they are almost better than other money issuers and as we see the interests of the remaining members of the society of our country coincide with their interests less and less.
    1. 0
      19 December 2017 23: 21
      The Central Bank is a state office and it transfers profits to the state budget.
      1. 0
        20 December 2017 07: 55
        Read the law on the Central Bank, and it does not transfer profit to any budget.
  8. +1
    19 December 2017 23: 04
    Bitcoin as a means of payment is absolutely useless, rampant revaluation is as negative as very fast devaluation
  9. 0
    20 December 2017 07: 12
    The world market is already saturated with both dollars and other virtual assets. Where else to cram the products of a continuously working Fed printing press? And let's come up with a virtual monetary instrument, which seems to be nobody's, but its rate is controlled by us? And let's call it a bit ....
  10. +2
    20 December 2017 08: 03
    The author absolutely did not understand the essence, wrote a critical article with a bunch of mistakes.
    1. The program code is in the public domain, download, study, and make sure that there are no bookmarks allowing you to make changes from outside the network (blockchain) space.
    2. Our whole world is essentially a pyramid. The value of money is simply imposed on us from above and nothing more. Humanity ceases to exist and our money (paper candy wrappers will not be in demand at all, will become just rubbish.
    3. Bitcoin and cryptocurrency fully meet all the criteria of modern money, you just have numbers on the card and this does not mean that you do not have money, you pay with numbers and not money, and cryptocurrencies are just digital money.
    4. Gold is also inconvenient to pay for a bottle of beer or a beam of bread, and bitcoin is also not convenient. He is the first, many shortcomings, like gold. But now there are a lot of crypts deprived of these shortcomings and according to the speed of their work, master cards with a visa are resting.

    It’s good to understand the topic, and then write articles.
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      20 December 2017 08: 18
      Quote: savage1976
      It’s good to understand the topic, and then write articles.

      Yes 9 hours ago, source: RIA Novosti
      Russia officially used blockchain for the first time
      MOSCOW, Dec 19 - RIA News. Sberbank and the Federal Antimonopoly Service (FAS) of Russia have begun exchanging documents using blockchain technology, the bank said on Tuesday. wink
    2. 0
      20 December 2017 16: 07
      "The value of money is simply imposed on us from above and nothing more. Humanity ceases to exist and our money (paper candy wrappers will not be in demand at all, will become just rubbish."- How commonplace! IF EVERYONE DIES, REALLY YOU ARE RIGHT.

      "Bitcoin and cryptocurrency fully meet all the criteria of modern money, you just have numbers on the card and this does not mean that you do not have money, you pay with numbers and not money, and cryptocurrencies are just digital money." - the criterion of money, dear, is their real purchasing power and willingness / commitment state and commercial organizations to accept this money as a means of payment. If you don’t receive money in a minibus, feel free to call the hotline. And if you don’t accept koin in the minibus, thenooooh, you're in luck! Could follow and to fill a muzzle, and so, simply land ...
      Money on the card is confirmed by guarantees of the bank and the state.
      Who guarantees you Koen? Call me this institute ...

      "Gold is also inconvenient to pay for a bottle of beer"- YES WELL AT!?!?!?!?!?!?!?! But what about the coins of gold and silver of Tsarist Russia ... 5, 10, 15 gold rubles .... Together with pieces of paper and in the conditions banking system ... (!!!!!!)
      And you know, until what time went around Europe as a USUAL PAYMENT (for bread, roll, beer, milk) COINS FROM DRAG.METAL? Google .... Surprise ... And the reasons for their withdrawal from circulation immediately and everywhere are still being discussed ...
      I’m talking about this: do not invent a bicycle! We return the denominations from the precious metal, and everything will fall into place, for gold / silver / patina - onet and in Africa, this is the same ..., gold / silver / patina. And under the sauce of coins from precious metals, any subsequent cashless system will be convenient IIIii, secondary! For everything and all operations will be actually provided with gold / silver!
      And what is provided with koyon ?????? MB, by electricity in power / telecom cables / signal in wireless networks ..?
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        21 December 2017 04: 29
        "the obligation of state and commercial organizations to accept this money unit as a means of payment. If you don’t receive money in your minibus, feel free to call the hotline. And if you don’t accept coin in your minibus, thenooooh, you are lucky! Could follow and fill the face, and just drop it off ... "- I'm sorry, my parents had more than 1991 full rubles in their accounts with SBERBANK as of 50. several apartments, cars and a comfortable old age. Someone returned all this to them when everything fell, and who guaranteed what? take closer dates, 000, 1998. In case of bank bankruptcy, more than 2014 was returned to one of the depositors? so who guarantees what? and why do tens of billions of our taxes go to support these very banks? Do they have a business or social office? and how many cases of theft of money from cards? and returned something to someone? I’ll just be silent about the theft of cash. the value of money is not guaranteed by anyone. your million in your pocket today (price of an apartment) will easily turn into the price of a loaf of bread tomorrow.

        "YES WELL AT!?!?!?!?!?!?!?! But what about the coins of gold and silver of Tsarist Russia ... 5, 10, 15 gold rubles .... Together with pieces of paper and in terms of banking systems ... (!!!!!!) "--- on some island there in the Pacific Ocean they paid with kamenyuka, the size of a house, and all 200 inhabitants knew who owned which kamenyuka. start paying with stones? I have a lot of them under the window. selling. what was before was convenient then, but inconvenient now.

        "I’m talking about this: don’t have to come up with a bicycle! We’ll return the money from the precious metal and everything will fall into place, for gold / silver / patina - onet and in Africa, this is the same ..., gold / silver / patina. And under the sauce of coins from precious metals, any subsequent non-cash system will be convenient IIIii, secondary! For all and all operations will be actually provided with gold / silver! " - precious metals are not enough for everyone. there were already attempts using precious metals and all ended in the bankruptcy of states trying to do this. coins, denominations and everything else was falsified, gold coins were bought for candy wrappers, and new gold had to be bought somewhere in order to make new coins. and buy for what? for gold?

        "And what is the supply of the koyo ?????? MB, with electricity in power / telecom cables / signal in wireless networks ..?" - I have already written and cited examples of the security of the modern ruble. beginning of 2014, 30 rubles per dollar, end of 2014 80 rubles per dollar. But what about security? is it the dollar it has become more or the ruble less? or rubles became 3 times more? who reimbursed whom?
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        21 December 2017 04: 38
        "And what is the koyohn ?????? MB supplied with, electricity in power / telecom cables / signal in wireless networks ..?" - as well as money, in the belief that it costs just that much right now, and yes the cost of creating this coin. your crane has broken, you invited 3 people to see how much it costs to repair. one said 10000 p., the other said 5000 p. neighbor said I will do it, pour it. so how much does this work cost? exactly as much as you are willing to pay for it or have a drink with a neighbor. and money coins. they cost exactly as much as they are willing to pay for them. yes, they have not yet become a real means of payment around the world. in Japan, bitcoin is already recognized as a means of payment and you can buy goods in the store for bitcoin. Bitcoin futures started on the exchanges along with futures for oil, grain, etc.
        the world does not stand still.
  11. +1
    20 December 2017 08: 16
    Quote: Monster_Fat
    But at least one country should recognize crypto as a means of payment of this state on a par with the local currency and confirm its value by all gold reserves, then instantly crypto will turn into a state currency, with all its attributes.


    I’m purely interested in how to keep accounts, sell goods and pay taxes with crypto? p2p is good, but taxes are kindergartens, clinics and so on.

    Here, ideology itself conflicts with the state system. “Payments not controlled by anyone and not tracked by anyone” do not allow the tax system to exist.
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      20 December 2017 08: 30
      In contradiction with the very existence of mankind comes the entire current tax system. Do you really think that the functioning of the State Duma from our taxes costs tens of billions of rubles (400 parasites and thousands of their assistants). Do you really think you should pay salary tax, buy a car, pay a tax on it, sell a car and pay tax again? Our taxes are legalized exactions from slaves and no more.
      We spent 200 million rubles of our taxes on dispersing the clouds in Moscow on the day of the city (a news release) and the next report about a dying 3-year-old girl and an appeal to raise 2 million rubles for her treatment. And where are our taxes? Flushed down the toilet .......
      The blockchain technology itself has everything you need, including for tax collection. For example, this is the transaction cost (transfer commission). Why not tax?
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        20 December 2017 11: 23
        Quote: savage1976
        The entire current tax system comes into conflict with the very existence of mankind.

        If you are talking about the views of Velichko, Mikhail Viktorovich, I’ll immediately say that I regard the BER rather negatively.

        You know, nobody says that the tax system is perfect, most likely not, but if you remove it, there will be no state.

        The blockchain technology itself has everything you need, including for tax collection. For example, this is the transaction cost (transfer commission). Why not tax?

        Taxes are an article of the country's budget formation, and here it is the enrichment of a specific person.

        So suppose you produce products and sell them at retail, they pay you with bitcoins. Please explain how vacation pay, sick leave, how pension contributions are made? and this only applies to direct workers.
        And what is indirect - who pays the police, doctors, teachers? none of this will happen.
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          20 December 2017 11: 37
          1. I do not know who Velichko is and his views.
          2. The states have millennia, and the modern tax system is about 100 years old.
          3. Once upon a time there was no money as such, stocks and bonds either. Then, when all this appeared, came into everyday life, a tax system appeared with these tools. Blockchain as a technology originated 9 years ago at the request of society in a similar system and the emergence of technologies for its organization. Cryptocurrencies are primarily the blockchain technology that stands behind them. And with the development, recognition, implementation, taxation and all the options necessary for users and society will appear.

          Microsoft appeared in the garage 30 years ago, now it is the largest creator of the OS for the PC, Google appeared 15 years ago and now it is the largest Internet service, the Internet appeared 30 years ago and now it is an integral part of civilization. Crypts appeared 7 years ago and the authorities began to puzzle over them, not because they are so cool and for progress, but because they begin to lose control, as technology can leave them freebies.
          1. +1
            20 December 2017 11: 57
            You understand correctly, it was the idea of ​​payment from person to person in a straight line, this idea contradicts the idea of ​​the state)))

            blockchain technology, if you like, just allows one to trust the other and was created in order to exclude a verification center

            The idea itself was created to exclude control and centralization !!! the state cannot exist in this system, there is no place for it.

            here is reading for you on this subject: https://ttrcoin.com/puteshestvennik-vo-vremeni-pr
            edskazal-chto-bitcoin-budet-stoit-10000-v-2017-go
            du-i-prizval-unichtojit-proklyatyy-proekt. 1743 /
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              20 December 2017 13: 17
              Well, we will not seriously discuss an article from 2025. people, and especially Western society, always want to monetize everything, this is the surest way to develop. (I'm not saying that the best). so we have monetization, and the creation of an analogue of the translation system, but the technology is much wider. first created an atomic bomb, and then an atomic station. first created a system for command and control, and then the Internet appeared. First, they created bitcoin as a payment system, and then the opportunity appeared to introduce technology into other types of life.
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              20 December 2017 13: 23
              and by the way, a system controlled by someone especially hostile to your state (visa, mastercard, swift) embedded in the life of your state is unlikely to be more useful than a system not controlled by anyone.
  12. +1
    20 December 2017 11: 50
    Blockchain is a technology, first of all, technology of distributed storage, creation, use, provision of data. Imagine a voting system in which thousands of bureaucrats-parasites are not required, in which it is impossible to falsify the voting results, and all this is organized not at the polling stations, but by a person without leaving the house using the telephone.

    That's what blockchain is, and cryptocurrencies at this stage are just a side effect, the very data that needs to be processed.
  13. 0
    23 December 2017 17: 51
    Quote: "Where did you get a million, you ask? Yes, I just bought bitcoins on time." The end of the quote.
    And before, a lot was won at the casino.
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    25 December 2017 09: 27
    Quote: savage1976
    Well, we will not seriously discuss an article from 2025. people, and especially Western society, always want to monetize everything, this is the surest way to develop. (I'm not saying that the best). so we have monetization, and the creation of an analogue of the translation system, but the technology is much wider. first created an atomic bomb, and then an atomic station. first created a system for command and control, and then the Internet appeared. First, they created bitcoin as a payment system, and then the opportunity appeared to introduce technology into other types of life.


    This is not a way of development; it is a struggle with development, how to make it even more clear.

    I read at science fiction once, a world where you had to pay for the services of the police, who paid - you can’t rob and kill (well, you can, but type police will fit in), do you want this? so that everyone was human to human to wolf?
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      30 January 2018 18: 24
      and with us differently? before providing medical assistance to the child, show insurance. The presence of the police does not protect you from robbery, and self-defense leads you straight to the dock.
      1. 0
        31 January 2018 08: 26
        you won’t be able to complain about it with Bitcoin))) this will not happen)))
  15. 0
    17 March 2018 08: 30
    The beginning of the article resembles criticism of the level of kindergarten. Criminals use Bitcoin, yes. And also criminals use air, drink water, sleep. So what?
    But then much more interesting. Bitcoin and non-currency at all. Well, since it is "not currency" - why then is the noise like that?) Well, people are "stupid", they exchange non-currency for goods hahah.