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Ukrainian BMPT "Guardian" and remained a model

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The autumn of the outgoing year was marked by a stormy and emotional discussion of the Ukrainian guard vehicle “Guard” - this creation of the gunsmiths Square to remind many Russian “Terminator”, writes Messenger of Mordovia.


Ukrainian BMPT "Guardian" and remained a model


The author of the material, Dmitry Lemeshko, recalls that the agency’s earlier publication on this topic caused a strong reaction from various Ukrainian experts and observers. They tried to prove that they were completely different machines, and that the creation of Ukroboronprom was superior to the Uralvagonzavod technique.



But now it is possible to sum up the intermediate result: the Russian Terminator is in service with the army of Kazakhstan, it successfully passed tests in Syria, took part in large-scale exercises “West-2017”, where it “fought” along with our other novelties - T-90M and T-80BVM, and, finally, the Ministry of Defense decided to adopt it.



And what about the "Guardian"? The Ukrainian car - “this is just a mock-up, hastily made to participate in the exhibition,” the author states.

“It is possible that tank, on which they placed the "Duplet", immediately after the exhibition they returned the full-time tower and already sent to the zone of the so-called ATO. Well, while the combat module, while waiting for the next exhibition, is still at the manufacturing plant, ”concludes Lemeshko.

Photos used:
lostarmour.info, Wael Al Hussaini
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  1. svp67
    svp67 18 December 2017 15: 02 New
    12
    Ukrainian BMPT "Guardian" and remained a model
    And God grant that it would be so ...
    1. 79807420129
      79807420129 18 December 2017 15: 04 New
      23
      Ukrainian car - "this is just a model, hastily made to participate in the exhibition",

      Ukraine is the very model of the state, hastily fashioned in Viskuly by three Jews.
      1. Monos
        Monos 18 December 2017 15: 17 New
        12
        Quote: 79807420129
        Ukraine is the very model of the state, hastily fashioned in Viskuly by three Jews.

        Imitation of existence. Imitation of life. But in fact - a dead field.
        1. Going
          Going 18 December 2017 15: 25 New
          14
          Field for diarrhea in Russia.

    2. 210ox
      210ox 18 December 2017 15: 08 New
      +9
      About the state of armored vehicles and the production of its VNA Ukraine does not speak only lazy. Everything! Panochka died ..
      Quote: svp67
      Ukrainian BMPT "Guardian" and remained a model
      And God grant that it would be so ...
      1. 79807420129
        79807420129 18 December 2017 15: 13 New
        12
        Quote: 210ox
        About the state of armored vehicles and the production of its VNA Ukraine does not speak only lazy. Everything! Panochka died ..

        Yes, complete degradation
      2. Chertt
        Chertt 18 December 2017 15: 14 New
        +8
        Quote: 210ox
        That's it! The little girl died ...

        More and more hints that it smells bad, this evil can take a long time. And still have to kill her
    3. Berber
      Berber 18 December 2017 15: 09 New
      +4
      The brothers are degrading. Previously, at least there was a fantasy.
      1. svp67
        svp67 18 December 2017 15: 12 New
        +4
        Quote: BerBer
        The brothers are degrading. Previously, at least there was a fantasy.

        And what is the degradation in the field of fantasy then? Quite a normal "shell", especially for that area and fights in the outskirts.
        1. Berber
          Berber 18 December 2017 15: 13 New
          +3
          We stole the idea.
          1. svp67
            svp67 18 December 2017 15: 15 New
            +4
            Quote: BerBer
            We stole the idea.

            Are you serious? But nothing that the idea was still SOVIET and before the advent of our “Terminator” had several prototypes
            1. Berber
              Berber 18 December 2017 15: 22 New
              +3
              Yes, but in iron we are the first. And the brothers are already with us. And the layout is probably not working. They even barrels for guns, at least small, even large caliber - forgotten how to do it.
              1. svp67
                svp67 18 December 2017 15: 35 New
                +7
                Quote: BerBer
                Yes, but in iron we are the first. And the brothers are already with us.

                And here you are NOT RIGHT. I repeat to you once again that the idea is SOVIET.
                “Object 781”, mid-80s

                "782 Object"

                And this is if you do not recall the "rocket tank" "Object 287" of the 60s

                1. Berber
                  Berber 18 December 2017 15: 43 New
                  +5
                  What are you arguing about, I don’t understand? I explain - I know what was invented in the USSR (by the way, the photo looks more like BMP 3, at least the tower). I mean that Ukrainians are puffing up to prove that they are no worse than Russia, and they repeat everything. AND YOU [i] [/ i] to me about how smart you are.
                  1. svp67
                    svp67 18 December 2017 15: 53 New
                    +2
                    Quote: BerBer
                    by the way the photo is more BMP 3 resembles at least a tower

                    Outwardly, yes, like weapons, but the armor resistance of this tower is several times higher
                    Quote: BerBer
                    . I mean that Ukrainians are puffing up to prove that they are no worse than Russia, and they repeat everything.

                    What do they repeat? Explain to me. You didn’t do it that way.
                    Quote: BerBer
                    And YOU [i] [/ i] tell me how smart you are.

                    If your intellect was enough only for this, then what else should you tell then ...
                    Feel free to repeat the slogan that "Russia is the homeland of elephants."
                    Quote: BerBer
                    What are you arguing about, I don’t understand?

                    I do not argue, I’m trying to explain to you that everything that we produce and plan to produce is not taken from the air, but has GENERAL, Soviet roots. And thank God that we still have the will and money to develop something, unlike the country "404"
                    1. Berber
                      Berber 18 December 2017 16: 02 New
                      0
                      Is memory bad? See the photo in the article. And for the "intelligence" order with the introduction, so that you calm down.
                      1. svp67
                        svp67 18 December 2017 16: 05 New
                        0
                        Quote: BerBer
                        Bad memory

                        Well, you need to warn that something is wrong with your memory ...
                        Quote: BerBer
                        And for the "intelligence" order with the introduction, so that you calm down.

                        I’m calm, "like a boa constrictor." It’s with you that something starts a tantrum.
                        Quote: BerBer
                        See the photo in the article

                        Well, try to explain, why did you see SUCH there
  2. san4es
    san4es 18 December 2017 15: 06 New
    +5
    And what about the “Guardian”? Ukrainian car - “this is just a mockup

  3. Berber
    Berber 18 December 2017 16: 12 New
    +5
    svp67,
    Their guard is a mock of our terminator. Of those photos that you showed above - nothing looks like. Therefore, the conclusion is plagiarism. Moreover, as always with Ukrainians, caricatured.
  4. igorspb
    igorspb 18 December 2017 16: 44 New
    +3
    did someone believe that he would "go into the series"? the world is not without naive people ....
  5. Alex20042004
    Alex20042004 18 December 2017 20: 56 New
    +4
    This topic is more real:
  6. Terenin
    Terenin 18 December 2017 22: 21 New
    +7
    Well, there are no people from the forum of you with an "entrepreneurial spirit." Just one copy! It’s like a rarity in 50-70 years it will cost big money! fellow
    Who should I ask when Ukrbor, Ukrprom, Ukrobkrab .... ugh you !, In short, when and where will his cohles put him up for auction? bully
    1. LeonidL
      LeonidL 19 December 2017 04: 56 New
      +1
      Wood? Lied, he will live so long - they will let the wood go, winter is over, and the gas is imported, Slovak, it costs a lot ... until he gets from Russia to Slovakia and returns back to Ukraine.
    2. Berber
      Berber 19 December 2017 14: 03 New
      +1
      Really the best comment.
      good