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Russian businessmen propose legalizing lobbying in the country

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The Russian business community proposes parliament to legislatively regulate lobbying in the country, establish rules for work in this area and charge taxes for lobbying activities, reports RIA News.




According to the authors of the idea, this will allow "to eradicate corruption as a decision-making mechanism."

Letters to the chairmen of the Federation Council and the State Duma were sent by the Association of Entrepreneurs for the Development of Business Patriotism “Avanti”.

We appeal to you as the chairman of the Council of Federation with a request to consider the issue of amending certain legislative acts of the Russian Federation in order to create the legal framework necessary to regulate lobbying activities in Russia,
says, in particular, in a letter addressed to Valentina Matvienko.

According to the business community, the implementation of the proposed initiative will allow “to use successful international experience and to withdraw lobbying activities from the shadows, eliminating the corruption component from it”.

It is necessary to radically rebuild the system of social practices in order to “pull out of the shadows” groups of influence and ensure transparency in making economic decisions, the authors of the initiative write.

According to their data, large corporations now contain "a whole staff of highly paid employees," whose main task is to promote the interests of the company in government bodies.

Obviously, lobbying activity in Russia has long been formed as a stable social practice, but due to the lack of legal mechanisms for its regulation, it increasingly takes on deviant and sometimes perverted forms. Thus, the head of the Federal Antimonopoly Service, Igor Artemyev, openly declares that in modern Russia an economy is “cartelized”,
says the message.

At the same time, there are a number of examples of foreign countries where lobbying has a clear legal and regulatory framework and brings tangible benefits to both the state and society. Thus, in the USA, lobbyism took shape in law in 1876, and was defined as a legal activity to promote various bills, both at the federal and local levels, the authors write.

In the business community, they note that lobbying is based on a deep strategic analysis designed to facilitate the adoption of socially useful, long-term decisions.

The creation of a regulatory framework governing lobbying will help eradicate corruption as an ineffective decision-making mechanism, increase the competitiveness of the domestic economy,
entrepreneurs are confident, adding that they are ready to connect themselves to this work.
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  1. AST507
    AST507 18 December 2017 10: 33 New
    +6
    “It is obvious that lobbying activity in Russia has long been formed as a stable social practice, however, due to the lack of legal mechanisms for its regulation, it increasingly takes on deviant, and sometimes perverted forms.”
    De facto turn into de jure? Maybe this is for the better, it certainly will not be worse.
    1. Finches
      Finches 18 December 2017 10: 38 New
      15
      In the United States, this is precisely such a system, but the United States is a closed joint stock company, and Russia, thank God, is a state!
      1. Tatyana
        Tatyana 18 December 2017 10: 52 New
        17
        Russian businessmen propose legalizing lobbying in the country
        It was from this that the privatization of state power and the whole state - the United States - ultimately began with financial capitalists, namely, bankers of privately owned US banks, of which the US Federal Reserve is composed.
        The US Federal Reserve is only federal in name, which is what misleads many citizens of the United States and other countries of the world. This is a purely globalist structure that parasitizes in all countries of the world.
        1. Tatyana
          Tatyana 18 December 2017 10: 58 New
          33
          To legitimize lobbyism means only one thing - to remove corruption from the ban - theft, bribery, bribery and bribery!
          It is not surprising that this proposal was received right now - shortly after the verdict and arrest of Ulyukaev for bribery and bribery using his official position!
          Surely, this proposal for the legalization of lobbyism comes precisely from the frightened Russian liberoids. I wonder from whom specifically!
          1. Going
            Going 18 December 2017 11: 25 New
            13
            In short, "capital" wants to privatize the state as an apparatus.
            1. Tatyana
              Tatyana 18 December 2017 11: 30 New
              +6
              Going
              In short, "capital" wants to privatize the state as an apparatus.

              Moreover, it is not so much PRODUCTIVE CAPITAL as FINANCIAL-SPECIALIZED capital with its subsequent swelling of the state-bureaucratic apparatus in power.
              1. Shurik70
                Shurik70 18 December 2017 13: 26 New
                +4
                Ah ha ha !!!
                Legalize bribes and take taxes for this.
                Ingenious. What state does the United States join?
          2. Lelek
            Lelek 18 December 2017 11: 39 New
            +2
            Quote: Tatiana
            to legitimize lobbyism means only one thing - to remove corruption from the ban - theft, bribery, bribery and bribery!


            hi. That's right, since these "comrades" will lobby for selfish interests and projects, and not state ones. And here is their avant-garde:
          3. Overlock
            Overlock 18 December 2017 13: 43 New
            +1
            from all at once, the thieves fussed.
      2. Anarchist
        Anarchist 18 December 2017 10: 52 New
        23
        Quote: Finches
        Russia, thank God, the state!

        Therefore, you do not need to turn the thought into an auction!
        It is necessary to fight corruption, otherwise it has already grown into a form of government ...
        1. Going
          Going 18 December 2017 11: 27 New
          +8
          Alexander, this is another attempt to seize the state.
          1. Ryazan87
            Ryazan87 18 December 2017 11: 39 New
            +3
            (with interest) Do you seriously believe that the state is some kind of wonderful sovereign golem in a vacuum? Especially the Russian Federation?
            There are several powerful groups that control valuable resources and have power potentials - they determine state movements in the "war of all against all." Since our economy is very specific, the goal is the same - to break through to valuable assets (which bring currency) and the budget trough, and to choke plenty. Along the way, devouring unsuccessful rivals. That's all.
            As for lobbying, in the "American" form it does not make sense to us. They solve issues differently.
            Lobbying itself is an inevitable phenomenon, in the USSR so dearly beloved here it was the most severe. For example, in the military-industrial complex. They just didn’t kill, and then ...
            1. Going
              Going 18 December 2017 11: 56 New
              +6
              Yes, you write everything correctly, but they are threatening the state as an apparatus for the use of force, they are interested in it, everything else, as you write, they practically have.
              1. Ryazan87
                Ryazan87 18 December 2017 12: 35 New
                0
                Who are these mysterious "they"?
                In the Russian Federation, representatives of the power apparatus are themselves leading business players (or are included in the relevant groups).
                Therefore, there is no sense in the law on lobbyism according to the "American scenario".
                State oligarchs at the head of major corporations (almost already large feudal lords) + heads of special services (the army in the Russian Federation does not really matter, they reliably stopped even in Soviet times) do not need regulated lobbyism. I repeat, they solve issues differently.
        2. NordUral
          NordUral 18 December 2017 12: 58 New
          0
          It is necessary to fight against organized crime groups, which we misunderstand call the state.
        3. The Siberian barber
          The Siberian barber 18 December 2017 12: 59 New
          +1
          The Duma may not be turned, and the ministry, under this "case", will certainly be created)))
          The fight will be for the "chair" serious-
          all fight corruption mercilessly
      3. katana
        katana 18 December 2017 11: 05 New
        +1
        Quote: Finches
        In the United States, this is precisely such a system, but the United States is a closed joint stock company, and Russia, thank God, is a state!

        According to various economists, Russian and foreign, in Russia the degree of nationalization of the economy is from 75 to 85 percent. With this level of state economy, who will lobby for something in Russia? In the USA it is clear that almost the entire economy is private, there are even private prisons!
        1. Finches
          Finches 18 December 2017 11: 13 New
          0
          And do not lobby for anything! This is not our method - our method - take everything and share! laughing
          But this is a joke!
        2. Genry
          Genry 18 December 2017 17: 34 New
          0
          Quote: katana
          According to various economists, Russian and foreign, in Russia the degree of nationalization of the economy is from 75 to 85 percent.

          Give the source specifically. It is still known that these percentages of enterprises are located in foreign offshore companies, i.e. out of Russian jurisdiction. Although it is possible, of the remaining under Russian jurisdiction, almost all are state-owned.
      4. volodya
        volodya 18 December 2017 11: 18 New
        +2
        What is this? Legalize bribes? Was it scary?
      5. Major Yurik
        Major Yurik 18 December 2017 11: 31 New
        +2
        A test way to get Ulyukaev out of jail !!! good
    2. Ami du peuple
      Ami du peuple 18 December 2017 10: 40 New
      +6
      Quote: AST507
      De facto turn into de jure?
      Precisely, if you cannot defeat corruption, head it!
      Having approved such a bill, our legislators will sign their own powerlessness in the fight against bribery at the highest levels of government. Well, or, more truly, they legalize their own illegal activities of this kind. "Servants of the people" without honor and conscience ..
    3. Puss in Boots
      Puss in Boots 18 December 2017 10: 44 New
      +5
      lobbying in a country with a social economy? but what about the even greater gap between the rich and the poor, because in this case it will simply reach cosmic proportions !!! the middle class, which we have almost nonexistent, will disappear as a concept! all will row for themselves corporations, I think so hi
      1. AST507
        AST507 18 December 2017 10: 45 New
        +3
        Let them at least pay taxes from this matter, and not put everything into pockets, as it is now ... smile
        1. SPACE
          SPACE 18 December 2017 10: 53 New
          +1
          Quote: AST507
          Let them at least pay taxes from this matter, and not put everything into pockets, as it is now ...

          Taxes are a trifle, now money for a bribe to an official will go not into his pocket, but to the budget, it’s high time.
        2. Ami du peuple
          Ami du peuple 18 December 2017 10: 56 New
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          Quote: AST507
          Let at least taxes be paid from this case
          Do you really believe that legalized bribe-takers will not evade taxes to the treasury? Then I feel sorry for you - it’s hard for the idealist in this cruel world. hi
    4. 79807420129
      79807420129 18 December 2017 10: 47 New
      +7
      Quote: AST507
      Maybe this is for the better, it certainly won’t be worse.

      It’s for sure you can’t defeat corruption, then head it. yes
    5. Vend
      Vend 18 December 2017 11: 01 New
      +1
      Quote: AST507
      “It is obvious that lobbying activity in Russia has long been formed as a stable social practice, however, due to the lack of legal mechanisms for its regulation, it increasingly takes on deviant, and sometimes perverted forms.”
      De facto turn into de jure? Maybe this is for the better, it certainly will not be worse.

      Only for this you can get real terms, like a bribe.
    6. Svarog
      Svarog 18 December 2017 11: 11 New
      +5
      Quote: AST507
      “It is obvious that lobbying activity in Russia has long been formed as a stable social practice, however, due to the lack of legal mechanisms for its regulation, it increasingly takes on deviant, and sometimes perverted forms.”
      De facto turn into de jure? Maybe this is for the better, it certainly will not be worse.

      Insolent completely already, I say, with this power, we will soon live in slavery. The Duma now and so it is only engaged in that lobbying laws for the oligarchs.
    7. zloybond
      zloybond 18 December 2017 20: 50 New
      0
      Do you think that it is right to legitimize the business of deputies and other "members"? In my opinion, it is necessary to tighten the punishment for bribes (including lobbying) before the execution (or hanging) and introduce the article "for lobbying interests" ...
  2. mih_sergeev92
    mih_sergeev92 18 December 2017 10: 35 New
    +5
    But you understand that in our country this is impossible! If officials stop taking bribes, then what will they do ?? They can’t do anything else ...
    1. Puss in Boots
      Puss in Boots 18 December 2017 10: 49 New
      +1
      unfortunately they will continue to take, only legally and without fear. and the initiative, I think, amid the minister’s landing wink
  3. Million
    Million 18 December 2017 10: 48 New
    +4
    The next initiative will be the legalization of corruption. Only this way it can be defeated!)
    1. Puss in Boots
      Puss in Boots 18 December 2017 10: 50 New
      0
      and what do you think? laughing
      1. Million
        Million 18 December 2017 10: 54 New
        +1
        corruption is a broader concept
        1. Alexander War
          Alexander War 18 December 2017 11: 24 New
          +2
          There will be legalized corruption!
  4. Berkut24
    Berkut24 18 December 2017 10: 49 New
    +8
    I can imagine what a fight will begin for those places where it will be possible to officially take money from lobbyists! This war in the center of Moscow will never end! Every day they will shoot and undermine those who have reached the feeding trough.
    The current "business", which hails from the beginning of the 90s, still can not come to terms with the idea of ​​equidistance from power. Everyone wants "equidistance", but no one thinks that foreign companies will come, they will pay with freshly printed dead presidents, they will buy the whole country in the bud, senatorial officials will pay their taxes and Russia will be closed as a project forever due to the transfer of all resources countries into the hands of transnational corporations. Where there will be no place for Russian business. Yes, and the citizens of Russia too.
    1. mih_sergeev92
      mih_sergeev92 18 December 2017 11: 44 New
      0
      Shoot no. Everyone will try to plant each other, but we live in a state of law))) how well judges and prosecutors will heal, just joyfully for them
  5. Ivan Ivanov
    Ivan Ivanov 18 December 2017 10: 55 New
    +2
    Another point to Einstein's article "Why socialism?"
  6. rocket757
    rocket757 18 December 2017 10: 57 New
    +3
    Those. just giving bribes is no longer comme il faut, dumb ???
    1. Alexander War
      Alexander War 18 December 2017 11: 27 New
      +2
      They can plant a fine and solder, as well as legalized corruption!
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 18 December 2017 12: 20 New
        +2
        Can, at the probability, in our being at the not obvious, unfortunately !!!
  7. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 18 December 2017 10: 58 New
    +1
    this will allow “eradicating corruption as a decision-making mechanism”
    This legalizes corruption at the legislative level. American lobbyists demonstrate this very well.
  8. sunzhenets
    sunzhenets 18 December 2017 10: 58 New
    +3
    Pay - and you have the opportunity to legitimize anything. Well done! Only it already was. Many years ago, the former mayor of Moscow, Gavriil Popov, already proposed to legalize bribes. If corruption is legalized, then there is no need to fight it. Profit!
    According to the authors of the idea, this will allow "to eradicate corruption as a decision-making mechanism."

    In my opinion, eradicating corruption will help a) the inevitability of punishment despite being close to the throne;
    b) the expansion of the use of confiscation of property, including with the relatives of the accused;
    c) return to the compulsory labor of convicts.
    lobbying in the USA took shape in law in 1876 and was defined as a legal type of activity to promote various bills, both at the federal and local levels

    Already got this copy from the pin-dos all in a row. Who else does not understand that we are too different?
    1. St Petrov
      St Petrov 18 December 2017 11: 22 New
      0
      expanding the use of confiscation of property, including with relatives of the accused;


      Colonel Zakharchenko and his family seem to have given everything they found to the state

      return to the compulsory labor of convicts.


      wow.
  9. Altona
    Altona 18 December 2017 11: 02 New
    +2
    Oooh, blah blah blah next. Now we will have our crypto reptiloids and crypto-masons a la rus. Ulyukaev will probably be released and appointed lobbyist ombudsman. Enough of this oligarchic coven in the country. This is not the time to think about the “interests of the oligarchs” and “influential groups”. The state already spends more than 60% of GDP on oligarchic interests, including the reorganization of bankrupt banks.
    1. St Petrov
      St Petrov 18 December 2017 11: 23 New
      0
      The state already spends more than 60% of GDP on oligarchic interests, including the reorganization of bankrupt banks.


      when the state spends on banks, it spends on bank depositors, and not on olegarchs. The bank only operates with the funds of depositors.

      This is not the time to think about the “interests of the oligarchs” and “influential groups”.


      This is not the time to think about the owners of enterprises, holdings and corporations. Can immediately shoot and share?

      Enough of this oligarchic coven in the country


      that you so shy away from the word "alegarch" under capitalism, I do not understand.

      Let’s say, there was no Deripaska (you dispossessed him, shot him, took money from his family) will you personally come to GAZ instead of him and take up this plant?

      Or are you delegating the right to manage the Svarogu plant? Judging by the comments of the Blacksmith God in all topics related in one way or another to the government, he would be able, in principle.

    2. Alexander War
      Alexander War 18 December 2017 11: 31 New
      +1
      Add video
  10. Eurodav
    Eurodav 18 December 2017 11: 31 New
    0
    Legalize money withdrawn from Russia first, to the last penny, beast-like, and then mouse something ... In general, the more convenient it will be in Russia, the faster we will slide into the example of America, where everything is controlled by a rich ghoul, not the president, but all the more people ... For Russia, such an example is suicide! The mentality is not the same ... An example is permission to purchase / carry / store firearms ... Let it be with us, and, for example, the Rostov Region may attack the outskirts, and that is armed, GDP is slow, Minsk is not respected, consanguineous people are dying! Agree, colleagues, that after a long harnessing process, then we drive fast? Although ... this has its own plus! Oh, did I say that out loud !? Changing appearances ...
  11. Alexander War
    Alexander War 18 December 2017 11: 38 New
    +1
    We look at the opinion of citizens!
  12. vladimirvn
    vladimirvn 18 December 2017 11: 48 New
    +5
    Let's legalize corruption, pedophilia and they will immediately disappear from crime statistics, and become completely legitimate acts. am What else should we legalize, for the good of our elite, so as not to constrain it?
  13. Altona
    Altona 18 December 2017 12: 00 New
    +1
    Quote: c-Petrov
    when the state spends on banks, it spends on bank depositors, and not on olegarchs. The bank only operates with the funds of depositors.

    ---------------------------------
    What? Do you have any idea what you are writing about? Funds are withdrawn from the bank, in other words, they are stolen by the leadership, and the state is still dumping there. As it was during the crises of 2009 and 2014-2015. Investors are the last to be considered. Your agreement may be declared "not found in the bank database."
    Quote: c-Petrov
    This is not the time to think about the owners of enterprises, holdings and corporations. Can immediately shoot and share?

    You can shoot and share. In China, they still do it. But apparently China is not a decree to you.
    Quote: c-Petrov
    that you so shy away from the word "alegarch" under capitalism, I do not understand.

    Let’s say, there was no Deripaska (you dispossessed him, shot him, took money from his family) will you personally come to GAZ instead of him and take up this plant?

    ------------------------------
    I will come and guide, do not worry. Director experience is available. I know firsthand the automotive technology. I know many Ukrainian engineers from GAZ. Hello to you. Think that you write sometimes.
    1. St Petrov
      St Petrov 18 December 2017 12: 03 New
      0
      What? Do you have any idea what you are writing about? Funds are withdrawn from the bank, in other words, they are stolen by the leadership, and the state is still dumping there. As it was during the crises of 2009 and 2014-2015. Investors are the last to be considered. Your agreement may be declared "not found in the bank database."

      I will come and guide, do not worry. Director experience is available. I know firsthand the automotive technology. I know many Ukrainian engineers from GAZ. Hello to you. Think that you write sometimes.


      laughing ok ok. apparently wrong was yes
    2. Pancir026
      Pancir026 18 December 2017 12: 03 New
      +1
      Quote: Altona
      What? Do you have any idea what you are writing about?

      Thinking is not something that he cannot, but obviously does not understand what he is writing about.
      Throwing a bunch of billions into banks, and the result is a withdrawal of finances from the country is the full approach of thieves of different levels, from Ulyukaev to smaller in size, whose interests are guarded by "s-peters"
      1. St Petrov
        St Petrov 18 December 2017 12: 04 New
        0
        To dump a bunch of billions in banks, and as a result to get the withdrawal of finances from the country


        laughing okay. Then you don’t have to “pile in a bunch of billions of dough” and we’ll live

        Well you give men heat. It is a pity there is no visual simulation of your thoughts. So we would have looked at a fascinating movie from the managers of the GAZ plants of Altona, the more he has friends and Pancir026, who wouldn’t pour billions of dough into the banking sector, who is familiar with automotive technology

        but funny of course that's all
        1. Pancir026
          Pancir026 18 December 2017 13: 29 New
          +1
          Quote: c-Petrov
          . Then you don’t have to “pile in a bunch of billions of dough” and we’ll live

          Banks that engage in speculation, instead of ensuring the development of the country, have a comprador office and the country is clearly harmful.
          Finance is the blood of the economy, and if this blood is lowered into someone else's, then who needs these banks?
  14. Anatoly Dobry
    Anatoly Dobry 18 December 2017 12: 25 New
    +1
    Who, at the same time, will lobby the interests of the people, the only source of power in the country?
  15. The Siberian barber
    The Siberian barber 18 December 2017 12: 31 New
    +1
    I understand that the next "initiative" will be the request for the introduction of "serfdom" ??
    "Faithful" gentlemen go ... ((
  16. NordUral
    NordUral 18 December 2017 12: 54 New
    +3
    Any form of lobbying is a crime. All the same, life will force the country to return to a planned economy in terms of basic parameters and market complementation, as auxiliary. The modern development of computer technology, especially in the field of artificial intelligence, will create a flexible planned economy, freeing millions of hands for production, and not for speculation. And the rest is corruption and decay, leading nowhere.
  17. Altona
    Altona 18 December 2017 12: 59 New
    0
    Quote: Altona
    I know many Ukrainian engineers from GAZ.

    ---------------------------
    Why did the word "Ukrainian" appear when I wrote UKER that the T-60 tank was on Kirov Avenue and opposite? request
    1. St Petrov
      St Petrov 18 December 2017 13: 05 New
      0
      most likely, "AutoCorrect" worked for you - and probably not on the site. In general, such incidents are common. Do not pay attention, everyone understood who needed it.

      It is necessary to double-check. Sometimes it turns out funny.
  18. olegator
    olegator 18 December 2017 13: 02 New
    0
    Hucksters generally already fucked up ... When will you get drunk ...
  19. Altona
    Altona 18 December 2017 13: 05 New
    +1
    Quote: NordUral
    Any form of lobbying is a crime. All the same, life will force the country to return to a planned economy in terms of basic parameters and market complementation, as auxiliary. The modern development of computer technology, especially in the field of artificial intelligence, will create a flexible planned economy, freeing millions of hands for production, and not for speculation. And the rest is corruption and decay, leading nowhere.

    ---------------------
    You are absolutely right. Minister Ulyukaev is worth 22 million; it turns out that to buy all our power in the bud, the $ 5 billion that the US spent in / in Ukraine is enough. And it is entirely possible that Soros and the globalists will do so. And in the morning we will find out that Russia is a completely neutral and tolerant country, there must be some kind of transsexual in every leading post, and that’s it. Or they will tell us that we must constantly sell our resources and constantly fight. It's all fraught with such jumps. In 1991, we did not think that we were completely dismantled from socialism and introduced the wildest forms of management.
  20. Altona
    Altona 18 December 2017 13: 10 New
    +1
    Quote: c-Petrov
    Well you give men heat. It is a pity there is no visual simulation of your thoughts. So we would have looked at a fascinating movie from the managers of the GAZ plants of Altona, the more he has friends and Pancir026, who wouldn’t pour billions of dough into the banking sector, who is familiar with automotive technology

    but funny of course that's all

    ---------------------------
    You, Mr. Petrov, either remove the face of Stalin from the avatar, or write in accordance with Stalin's economic doctrines. And then you have a cross on the spot and with cowards is not very visible. And you well remembered about Deripaska. Mr. Deripaska is a pure offshore capitalist and I know very well how he bought up plants. Because the factory, in front of which I live, has become a factory of the GAZ group and it lives partly on my developments (trailed axles of the MAZ-KAMAZ type and for low-profile tires, it applies them now, though the quality was three) pull out from there, pulled Mr. Deripaska. Even took the axle assembly. Now the axes as spare parts and the machine kit are brought to Pavlovo, this designer and voila are assembled, from penniless spare parts we get a product with high added value.
  21. The brightest
    The brightest 18 December 2017 15: 41 New
    0
    Pin dos were slaughtered, it is forbidden to grow food in their own plots ... But our "officials" will certainly agree - this is practically legalized bribery!
  22. Olegi1
    Olegi1 18 December 2017 16: 25 New
    0
    The idea is good, IMHO. You can’t win - lead.

    One addition: only companies and citizens with fully Russian capital and who do not have property and accounts abroad can lobby. Check this will need to be tough.
  23. Satum
    Satum 18 December 2017 16: 42 New
    0
    In essence, they want to make corporations have rights than small businesses. Lobbying will negate small business, one of the state’s revenues.
  24. Yasen Ping
    Yasen Ping 18 December 2017 17: 50 New
    0
    Stalin is absent improving the welfare of citizens, just does not specify which ...
  25. Geisenberg
    Geisenberg 18 December 2017 19: 00 New
    0
    Better the execution of officials let them legalize.
  26. vladimirasha
    vladimirasha 18 December 2017 20: 01 New
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    as we legalize and grunt thank you gentlemen you are not businessmen you are hucksters.
  27. osoboye_mneniye
    osoboye_mneniye 18 December 2017 20: 19 New
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    "The creation of a regulatory framework governing lobbying will eradicate corruption as an ineffective decision-making mechanism and increase the competitiveness of the domestic economy,"
    In terms of the fight against corruption, perhaps it makes sense. But there is no need to talk about competitiveness. He who is richer will pay more taxes. Small businesses will be overboard.
  28. valent45
    valent45 19 December 2017 09: 33 New
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    Freedom to lobbyism is freedom of lawlessness of monopolies!
    How much can you grab ?!
  29. Old military officer
    Old military officer 19 December 2017 09: 33 New
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    Quote: Anatoly Good
    Who, at the same time, will lobby the interests of the people, the only source of power in the country?

    Bah, dear Anatoly, but to whom do they need these interests of "genetic waste" from a known vegetable? And what is there, you say, a source? Look at these ... faces of the people of love of the people and the people of the world. Questions will disappear by themselves. The system is built
  30. Dark_Filin
    Dark_Filin 19 December 2017 10: 17 New
    0
    Qui prodest? Who benefits? Of course, this is beneficial only to those who do not want to sit down for a bribe to an official.