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Presidential campaign officially launched in Russia

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From today (December 18) in the Russian Federation officially launched the presidential election campaign. The relevant decree of the upper chamber of the parliament of the country was published in "Russian newspaper". The signature on the document was put by the Chairman of the Federation Council Valentina Matvienko last Friday 15 December.


Official stuff:
In accordance with Article 81, paragraph "d" of part 1 of Article 102 of the Constitution of the Russian Federation, paragraphs 2 and 7 of Article 5 of the Federal Law "On the Election of the President of the Russian Federation", the Council of Federation of the Federal Assembly of the Russian Federation decides:
1. To appoint the election of the President of the Russian Federation on March 18 2018.
2. This Decision shall enter into force on the day of its official publication.
Chairman of the Council of Federation of the Federal Assembly of the Russian Federation V. Matvienko
Moscow
15 декабря 2017 года
N 528-SF


Presidential campaign officially launched in Russia


Recall that earlier his participation in the next presidential race was confirmed by the current president, Vladimir Putin. Press Secretary of the Head of State Dmitry Peskov some time after that noted that Vladimir Putin has no serious political competitors at this stage.

They are going to nominate candidates for the elections: Chairman of the Communist Party of the Russian Federation Gennady Zyuganov, leader of the Liberal Democratic Party of Russia Vladimir Zhirinovsky, TV host Ksenia Sobchak, business ombudsman Boris Titov and a number of other political, near-political and non-political figures. The rating of Zhirinovsky and Zyuganov at this stage ranges from 6 to 9% (according to different versions of opinion polls). The political rating Sobchak does not exceed 2%.
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  1. Michael67
    Michael67 18 December 2017 05: 52 New
    +4
    One on the mind - God forbid. I want a constancy in life. Those. stability.
    1. dik-nsk
      dik-nsk 18 December 2017 05: 58 New
      11
      why spend money?
      "The Central Election Commission (CEC) of Russia chose the logo of the presidential election in 2018. For its creation -" developing a visual concept "- the advertising agency IMA Consulting will receive 37 million rubles from the country's budget." 37 cartoons !!! for this wretched picture in the article ..
      "The total cost of the information campaign on the presidential election in Russia is almost 800 million rubles."
      negative
      1. Grandfather
        Grandfather 18 December 2017 06: 04 New
        +7
        why not just announce the winner now, "due to the lack of an opponent" ... we will save money.
        1. Stas157
          Stas157 18 December 2017 07: 13 New
          19
          Quote: Michael67
          One on the mind - God forbid. I want a constancy in life. Those. stability.

          Putin came right after Yevgeny Primakov and the Communists parried the 1998 default in Russia. And already in 2008, the crisis again! And then, in 2014, the collapsed ruble immediately halved the salaries of pensions and the accumulation of ordinary people in the country! Did you forget this? What kind of stability is this when we live from crisis to crisis? Only the people will grow fat, so they immediately shave it (another crisis). But are you, by world standards, satisfied with beggarly average wages and pensions in the country, and when a working person is forced to live below the poverty line, in fact, in a not poor country?
          1. your1970
            your1970 18 December 2017 10: 23 New
            +4
            Quote: Stas157
            Yevgeny Primakov and the Communists parried the 1998 default in Russia. And already in 2008, the crisis again!
            -In general, these crises were WORLD !!!
            the first, which began in South Korea, immediately gobbled up half of Korean firms ..
            Who now remembers DEU - in which even supertankers built ....
            In 2006-2007, about 40 fertilizers per quarter were used by us from Kazakhstan - in 000 2009 (ONE !!!) the wagon passed in the first half of the year ..
            So it was nauseous everywhere - it just might be somewhere on a simple person that recouped less noticeably ...
          2. Baloo
            Baloo 18 December 2017 19: 05 New
            +1
            Quote: Stas157
            What kind of stability is this when we live from crisis to crisis?

            Our economy is closely connected with the world, no matter how they try to isolate us from it.
            The global crisis hit Europe the hardest, especially the eastern one. Russia was only slightly scared. Our crisis is the 90s. Remember the default? Yeltsin: three lard should have come (from the IMF), and only 800 lyam arrived, I don’t know, we will understand. I saw it on TV myself.
            After the death of Berezovsky surfaced that he, too, had something to do with it. Tranches were transferred through a French bank. At some point, the banker was worried, bulletproof glass in the house, strengthened the security. After communicating with Berezovsky, at some point, he suddenly burned down literally with the whole family in the bunker of his house, with doors closed from the inside.
            This crisis is not the last. Sources of crises are well-known speculators on exchanges. Now the next biggest crisis is being prepared, it’s bitcoins and similar virtual currencies. Russia is building up its gold reserves, again we will suffer the least.
            1. Sling cutter
              Sling cutter 18 December 2017 21: 29 New
              +3
              Quote: Balu
              Our economy is closely connected with the world, no matter how they try to isolate us from it.

              Who is doing this?
              Quote: Balu
              The global crisis hit Europe the hardest, especially the eastern one. Russia was only slightly scared.

              Yes, if you still think of comparing prices in geyyrope with ours ....
              Quote: Balu
              I don’t know, we’ll understand. I saw it on TV myself.

              sorry, I understand, you are one of those who charged cans of water from Chumak and shook his head from Kashpirovsky ....
              Continue watching, so you love the TV show "the rich also cry."
              1. your1970
                your1970 18 December 2017 22: 12 New
                0
                Quote: Stroporez
                Quote: Balu
                Our economy is closely connected with the world, no matter how they try to isolate us from it.
                Who is doing this?
                - some aliens probably .. Do not know the case?
                Isolated (really isolated !!!) from the world economy of the USSR received a noble podzhopnik from the oil crisis of the early 70's - what can we say about the current Russian Federation tightly built into the global economy ....
                1. Sling cutter
                  Sling cutter 18 December 2017 22: 58 New
                  +3
                  Quote: your1970
                  Isolated (really isolated !!!) from the world economy of the USSR received a noble podzhopnik from the oil crisis of the early 70's

                  It's a shame Comrade to compare the power of the USSR with a stump in the form of the Russian Federation. For starters, look at what share in the USSR GDP was hydrocarbon exports.
                  Let me remind you of the general development that the Druzhba gas pipeline was, precisely, created for the CMEA countries !!!
                  And all the rest .... woffs-dimkins invented
                  1. your1970
                    your1970 19 December 2017 08: 24 New
                    0
                    out of sports interest, look at the receipt of foreign exchange earnings in the early 70s and the year 75th in the USSR - a notable fall was
                    In addition to Druzhba, there was a thread of the Urengoy-Pomary-Uzhgorod MG (a little later I agree-1984). By the way, it was built on loans from Western European (FRG) and Japanese banks, issued against the proceeds from subsequent deliveries of natural gas (gas-gas deal pipes. "
                    1. Sling cutter
                      Sling cutter 19 December 2017 15: 31 New
                      +1
                      Quote: your1970
                      out of sports interest, look at the receipt of foreign exchange earnings in the early 70s and the year 75th in the USSR - a notable fall was

                      Colleague, you will agree that for the economy of the USSR this fact was not of fundamental importance.
                      "... in historical terms, no other state, except the USSR, has ever succeeded in achieving such a high degree of social equality and homogeneity (uniformity in composition, properties, origin) with a simultaneous impressive increase in living standards for almost all layers and groups of the population. The decisive prerequisite for such a development was the economic policy of the Soviet state, carried out under conditions of nationwide ownership of the means of production and the system of unified economic planning. " (Source: Roger Kieran, Thomas Kenny "Selling Socialism" http://aleksandr-kommari.narod.ru/kiran.html) For the first time in history, a person’s fate and career did not depend on the amount of money in his accounts and therefore 25 years after the end of World War II, in 2, the share of the USSR with world GDP was 1970%, which is approximately equal to the total GDP of Great Britain, France, Italy, Spain and Canada combined.
                      1. your1970
                        your1970 20 December 2017 08: 34 New
                        0
                        Quote: Stroporez
                        Colleague, you will agree that for the economy of the USSR this fact was not of fundamental importance.

                        let me disagree - for foreign exchange earnings had very new machines, devices, equipment, technologies, and even entire factories, including AvtoVAZ, bribes to the right officials / vassals around the world (politics is also economics) - and all this, alas, NOT for rubles

                        Z.Y. career ALWAYS depends on the person in the first place, an abyss of examples when people from the lower layers of society jumped out in the front ranks: Menshikov, Bonaparte, Lomonosov, Stalin, etc.
                        It’s just that in the USSR there was some kind of justice in this matter — efficient, smart, smart — always had a chance to become a boss. Which did not preclude categorically the passage of all sorts of figures like tagged there
                2. Baloo
                  Baloo 19 December 2017 06: 21 New
                  +1
                  Quote: your1970
                  some aliens probably .. Do not know the case?

                  Are you talking about yourself?
              2. Baloo
                Baloo 19 December 2017 06: 20 New
                +1
                Quote: Stroporez
                Continue watching, so you love the TV show "the rich also cry."

                Not funny and not smart. TV, like the Internet, media sources of information for most civilians.
      2. Tatar 174
        Tatar 174 18 December 2017 06: 15 New
        +2
        Quote: dik-nsk
        For its creation - "developing a visual concept" - the advertising agency IMA Consulting will receive 37 million rubles from the country's budget. "37 cartoons !!! for this wretched picture in the article ..

        Is the information correct? If so, then the "cut" has already begun am
        Quote: Dead Day
        why not just announce the winner now, "due to the lack of an opponent" ... we will save money.

        What are you, but what will “saw”? Yes, and where to put unspent expenses? Thinking of something useful and necessary, this money will go? Here you know how many people are waiting for this election to wait, this is such an opportunity for them to “earn”
      3. Overlock
        Overlock 19 December 2017 10: 31 New
        0
        preparations for the election have begun
    2. Finches
      Finches 18 December 2017 06: 04 New
      15
      As for the constancy, although I am personally for the GDP! laughing

      1. ImPerts
        ImPerts 18 December 2017 06: 13 New
        +2
        Quote: Finches
        About constancy

        Duc Merkel Chancellor since November 22 2005
        And nothing drinks
        1. Finches
          Finches 18 December 2017 06: 21 New
          +1
          Best the enemy of the good! I wouldn’t touch the GDP at all - as long as it has the strength! And the money from the elections and the dispersal of all election committees would be spent on business! hi
    3. populist
      populist 18 December 2017 06: 26 New
      +8
      Michael67
      One on the mind - God forbid. I want a constancy in life. Those. stability.

      Wow, how in life everything repeats itself! Again, stagnation in the country, and on TV Brezhnev and Honneker kiss every day. (Ugh .. the evil spirits confuse.) - Putin meets with presidents and kings five times. crying
      This is stability! recourse
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    4. Breard
      Breard 18 December 2017 10: 13 New
      +7
      Well ... "don't rock the boat ... the rat is sick"
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    5. Overlock
      Overlock 18 December 2017 11: 00 New
      +7
      The new / old President in 2012 travels on a jubilant, filled with enthusiastic residents of Moscow to the Kremlin.

  2. ImPerts
    ImPerts 18 December 2017 05: 53 New
    0
    Starting today (December 18), the presidential election campaign has officially started in the Russian Federation.

    I hope that this will not be the beginning of the outflows of chernukha, ordering and other muck.
    1. Michael67
      Michael67 18 December 2017 05: 59 New
      +4
      The State Department has planned $ 4.5 lard for the information war against Russia in 2018.
      So, what will be to you "... streams of chernukha, orders and other muck".
      1. Baloo
        Baloo 18 December 2017 06: 09 New
        +4
        Quote: Michael67
        The State Department has planned $ 4.5 lard for the information war against Russia in 2018.
        So, what will be to you "... streams of chernukha, orders and other muck".

        The number of those who think they are capable of governing the state has already exceeded ten.
        The goal is not to catch up, so warm up. Replenish the wallet with State Department candy wrappers and draw back votes in order to show at least for propaganda purposes the “fallen” GDP rating and build on the next election. I do not expect anything good next year, I vote for GDP.
        I need a competent, sane, responsible leader as President of the Russian Federation, and not all kinds of media hens and cocks.
        1. Stas157
          Stas157 18 December 2017 09: 24 New
          10
          Quote: Balu
          I vote for GDP.
          I need a competent, sane, responsible leader as President of the Russian Federation, and not all kinds of media hens and cocks.

          Oligarchs and officials applaud you! The pro-government political strategists skillfully control the election field and the opinions of ordinary Russians. We did everything so that the performance with the elections did not give any other choice.
          1. Baloo
            Baloo 18 December 2017 09: 29 New
            +2
            Quote: Stas157
            Oligarchs and officials applaud you!

            I don’t need chaos and a complete mess like in Ukraine.
            You will agree to fly on an airplane, the pilot of which will be selected by a crowd of passengers, but how do you determine competence_for who will scream the loudest than anyone else?
            1. dauria
              dauria 18 December 2017 09: 55 New
              11
              You’ll agree to fly on a plane, the pilot of which will be selected by a crowd of passengers,


              And we just choose the pilot, and not the steward of the oligarchs? wink
              1. Baloo
                Baloo 18 December 2017 11: 16 New
                +1
                Quote: dauria
                You’ll agree to fly on a plane, the pilot of which will be selected by a crowd of passengers,


                And we just choose the pilot, and not the steward of the oligarchs? wink

                Do not confuse, stewards subordinate to the commander, serve passengers.
                Money is the blood of economics. Forgot how Semibankirshchina taxied EBN. Now another story. The upcoming championship, as well as the last Olympiad, are organized not only for state welfare. I don’t remember exactly, the state’s share is 40 or 45%.
            2. DEDPIHTO
              DEDPIHTO 18 December 2017 10: 28 New
              +6
              To fly, you first need to take off, and we have been stuck on takeoff for twenty years .. Well, this pilot does not know how to drive a heavy transport vehicle and judging by his age, learning late. And passengers are sick of waitinghi
              1. Baloo
                Baloo 18 December 2017 11: 17 New
                +1
                Quote: DEPHIHTO
                To fly, you first need to take off, and we have been stuck on takeoff for twenty years .. Well, this pilot does not know how to drive a heavy transport vehicle and judging by his age, learning late. And passengers are sick of waiting

                Are you ready to work at such a pace and in such a volume as GDP? Do you have any waiting for this knowledge, experience?
                Very comfortable sitting on the couch and squeezing Claudia to spit on everything.
                1. DEDPIHTO
                  DEDPIHTO 18 December 2017 11: 39 New
                  +6
                  I worked for my defense of the country ... both in pace and in volume ... and not in a comfortable chair behind the clave. And I do not care what will happen to the country tomorrow. Until I see only the continuing looting of Russia's national wealth by bastards, with tacit consent .........
            3. corporal
              corporal 18 December 2017 10: 57 New
              +6
              Quote: Balu
              I don’t need chaos and a complete mess like in Ukraine.

              You might think we have a smaller mess with social programs, medicine, jobs, etc.
              1. Baloo
                Baloo 18 December 2017 11: 23 New
                +1
                Quote: Corporal
                Quote: Balu
                I don’t need chaos and a complete mess like in Ukraine.

                You might think we have a smaller mess with social programs, medicine, jobs, etc.

                Do not la la. I have been in medicine for more than half my life and I have something to compare from the beginning of the 80s, then Gorbachev, then EBN and the last 17 years. It became better in medicine and with accessibility and quality, there are questions and wishes too. It will be even better. The main thing is that there is no rejection of free health care. I would like the state to build a coherent policy in the revival of the medical industry, especially since the defense industry could also take part. No one remembers how in the late 80s there was an order from the Ministry of Health with a list of modern medical equipment and factories (from tomographs to rehabilitation facilities). Gorbachev came, then the country collapsed and a mustache.
                Social? There are differences in Ukraine and Russia. Do not forget about those challenges and subversive work around and inside the country. Let's start with ourselves, we will do our work honestly and in good faith, out of respect for ourselves.
                1. Stas157
                  Stas157 18 December 2017 12: 32 New
                  10
                  Quote: Balu
                  Do not la la. I have been in medicine for more than half my life and I have something to compare from the beginning of the 80s, then Gorbachev, then EBN and the last 17 years. Better in medicine

                  My wife is a dentist, she doesn’t think so. They pay a little. Every year, the number of free services and materials to patients is REDUCED. The quality is not improving. Medicine has been left to merchants and insurance companies.
                  Answer the question why patients prefer to go for dental treatment for a fee (and not only teeth! Soon most surgeries will be paid), if there really is an opportunity? Is it from good medicine so praised by you?
                  Quote: Balu
                  Social? There are differences in Ukraine and Russia.

                  Why are you comparing our country with Zimbava? Why be so humiliated? If you really compare, you need to take the best choice for comparison, not the worst. Then immediately everything will fall into place. And we really will understand how we live, and how we could live.
                  1. vlad_vlad
                    vlad_vlad 18 December 2017 15: 47 New
                    +1
                    Quote: Stas157
                    Quote: Balu
                    Do not la la. I have been in medicine for more than half my life and I have something to compare from the beginning of the 80s, then Gorbachev, then EBN and the last 17 years. Better in medicine

                    My wife is a dentist, she doesn’t think so. They pay a little. Every year, the number of free services and materials to patients is REDUCED. The quality is not improving. Medicine has been left to merchants and insurance companies.
                    Answer the question why patients prefer to go for dental treatment for a fee (and not only teeth! Soon most surgeries will be paid), if there really is an opportunity? Is it from good medicine so praised by you?
                    Quote: Balu
                    Social? There are differences in Ukraine and Russia.

                    Why are you comparing our country with Zimbava? Why be so humiliated? If you really compare, you need to take the best choice for comparison, not the worst. Then immediately everything will fall into place. And we really will understand how we live, and how we could live.


                    inspired from the 80s:
                    Why do doctors work at 1,5 rates?
                    if you work on one bet there is no money for food
                    if you work at 2 rates, then there is no time for food
                  2. Baloo
                    Baloo 18 December 2017 17: 29 New
                    +1
                    Quote: Stas157
                    Answer the question why patients prefer to go for dental treatment for a fee (and not only teeth! Soon most surgeries will be paid), if there really is an opportunity? Is it from good medicine so praised by you?

                    The truth of life is that 3.6% of GDP goes to medicine, and according to Roshal, at least 9 is needed. Dentistry is not an indicator, there are other professions.
                    We need money, we need infrastructure, the domestic medical industry. Another truth of life is that the authority of domestic medicine is not accidentally growing. In 2016, about 90 thousand foreigners underwent treatment in Russia and not only in St. Petersburg and Moscow, but also in the periphery, and not only from neighboring countries, but from other continents. Salaries have always been a sore point. I myself had most of the work on three shifts a week in two places and during the day in full at the main job + in several other places until the evening. Once I worked for five days and woke up from the fact that I was not breathing even the last heartbeat. On the fifth breath, the heart responded reluctantly, tapped again. Saved by not having time to get scared. Tired, that’s not scared. Stupidly thought that we should breathe. Now here is diabetes mellitus, hypothyroidism, was hypertension. As I quit duty and ran from work to work, pressure without any pills was like in my youth.
                    The country is developing, there is corruption, but where it is not. We ourselves need to be more active in terms of law and order around ourselves. And then, we elderly people still live with old concepts, remaining Soviet people, the state owes us, the state now, tomorrow will be better than yesterday ... And what prevents young people from relearning if they are not satisfied with their salaries. In our city, there are 4 vacancies from a doctor for one official unemployed. engineer manager to other specialties, including construction, machine tools are much appreciated, etc.
                    Perhaps we ourselves need to feel responsible for ourselves, and not wait.
                    My health doesn’t allow me, old sports injuries, overloads in the construction team, wagons, barges are all affected. I can’t wave a checker at the machine, I don’t hold my back, I switched to paper work. Salary is almost like a pension, pension is almost like the average in the country. Nevertheless, I will not go to vote for the Navralny and others like him. Even from the meager information on VO, it is clear that the challenges and challenges ahead are more serious than they were. The president should be a person whose profession is to defend the homeland, competent and responsible.
              2. Overlock
                Overlock 18 December 2017 13: 22 New
                +3
                Yes, for sure, just do not shoot
    2. Vanek
      Vanek 18 December 2017 06: 38 New
      +3
      Quote: ImPerts
      it will not be the beginning of the outflows of chernukha, ordering and other muck.


      Just the opposite.

      - Hello. I'm Ksusha. I have no team, no program. I want to be the president. And Putin .... And Putin ....

      About.
  3. KOH
    KOH 18 December 2017 05: 56 New
    +1
    That's all !!! "Partners" throwing shovels will start throwing ...)))
  4. Knowing
    Knowing 18 December 2017 06: 04 New
    +5
    I read yesterday that the one “against all” put forward the conditions for withdrawing her candidacy. Like let Navalny with Yavlinsky and she will leave. wassat .. request And that’s the presidential candidate; complete legal illiteracy ... laughing Lord, carry it ...
    1. Herculesic
      Herculesic 18 December 2017 06: 07 New
      +1
      I agree with you wassat -Let it carry, or in a no-sit wassat every single day! !!! lol
    2. Baloo
      Baloo 18 December 2017 08: 24 New
      +2
      Quote: Knowing
      I read yesterday that the one “against all” put forward the conditions for withdrawing her candidacy. Like let Navalny with Yavlinsky and she will leave. wassat .. request And that’s the presidential candidate; complete legal illiteracy ... laughing Lord, carry it ...

      What do you want from a chicken who escaped lol her from home-2?
  5. samarin1969
    samarin1969 18 December 2017 06: 10 New
    +9
    Judging by the recruitment of perpetual candidates, soon the right to the title of “candidate” will be inherited. laughing
    1. Baloo
      Baloo 18 December 2017 11: 25 New
      +2
      Quote: samarin1969
      Judging by the recruitment of perpetual candidates, soon the right to the title of “candidate” will be inherited. laughing

      Sukashvili is busy, otherwise he would also run around Moscow and yell at all angles: I am Russian, I want to be your presidents.
  6. Herculesic
    Herculesic 18 December 2017 06: 10 New
    +6
    And I, unlike you, already know the President of Russia -new, with old manners! !!!! wassat The same low fighter. ... lol !!!! He is fighting against something, but corruption is winning. ...
    1. your1970
      your1970 18 December 2017 10: 30 New
      +1
      literally 4 days ago to the minister 8 years gave

      Who are the admirals in the USA who have inflicted damage to the USA through the purchase of fuel and lubricants from friendly companies and stumbled on this field - dollars, sat down? not for 8 years - but just at least CEL?
      ZY these are the admirals who participated in sex parties in honor of the 200th anniversary of some of their admiral
      1. DEDPIHTO
        DEDPIHTO 18 December 2017 11: 05 New
        +4
        Og ... will soon be released ... due to health or personal amnesty ... after the election ..
        1. your1970
          your1970 18 December 2017 11: 24 New
          0
          8 years do not fall under amnesty
          1. Siberia 9444
            Siberia 9444 19 December 2017 11: 04 New
            0
            Even as they fall, and immediately to a new position!
            1. your1970
              your1970 20 December 2017 08: 41 New
              0
              I will not even argue, read the Codes ...
  7. Simon
    Simon 18 December 2017 06: 25 New
    +4
    I will vote for Putin V.V., I don’t see the point in the rest, but Sobchak is generally ready to give Russia away, of the rest - bl ... house 3 to do if becomes president stop
    1. Grandfather
      Grandfather 18 December 2017 06: 32 New
      11
      Quote: Simon
      I will vote for V.V. Putin, I don’t see any sense

      but there’s no “rest”. traditional, "eternal candidates" ... the established system does not imply competitors. the oligarchy will feel safe, only with such "stability", and they will not spare any money for it.
    2. Esoteric
      Esoteric 18 December 2017 09: 16 New
      +6
      Quote: Simon
      I will vote for Putin V.V.I don’t see the point ...


      On March 18, election day was announced. Here, whatever you say, you have to go, you need to think and choose. As Shakhnazarov said? “I’ll go,” he says, “I will vote for Putin. I met and talked with him, I like him.” I forgot to add that I was a member of the national headquarters for nominating GDP for the presidency, a confidant of the party "ER" and a frequent guest of the show V. Solovyov ... fellow What a misfortune! belay I have not met with Putin. I did not see his presidential program. I can’t remember the films where Shakhnazarov’s surname is found (if only “We are from jazz”) and I only know about Solovyov that he is a Jew (what he himself said) and he can freely visit the USA ... What should I do? request Zhirinovsky? Zyuganov? If you vote for Volfovich, then ... he still won’t win (he voted for him twice, because there was no one else) ... what Zyuganov is so old that even pensioners (my peers and older) are not interested in him. Kseniya? And what. So what about the fact that not everyone likes it - you don’t drink water from your face, and the girl doesn’t go into her pocket for words (pockets, though her clothes aren’t No. ) So what if she doesn’t have a professional team - we tolerate twenty-five years of random crooks in the government and the Duma, and so what? And the fact that without a program - so maybe someone will talk about a program by which we are building a liberal market here and tightening all the belts ... what The girl is young, healthy ... Maybe he’ll go to his father ... He taught people to "himself" in the toilet and taught them to "soak in the toilet". For whom I would go to vote on the move, so for Lyokha. Of course, to whom he and Lyokha, and for whom - Alex. There DAM is not for everyone either - Dimon. Alexey was in prison, and in Russia we don’t put bad people in prison ... recourse One trouble - the presidents are also not allowed to run ... crying
      In general, there is time ... yes To lean towards the choice of GDP? What? It’s been in power for a long time ... He knows everyone ... what An old one, nevertheless, and before death people only do good deeds (Hitler doesn’t count) ... So what, that I didn’t do much, but which of you does everything? So what if the national team goes to the Olympics without a flag? We knew a lot about Stirlitz and people like him? They don’t walk with the Russian flags in the streets of Berlin, Washington and London, they don’t sing Russian songs and don’t even speak Russian, and they’re doing a great deal ... request Everything is decided ... If Putin has a program, I will vote for him ... yes If not, I won’t go to vote at all, which, in principle, is the same ... request
      As mother says:
      "Vote - don’t vote, you’ll get anyway ... lol the one who gets the most votes "
      1. your1970
        your1970 18 December 2017 10: 47 New
        0
        Part from Lesha program
        "Establish a special independent anti-corruption structure that is not part of the law enforcement system. Its leadership will be appointed solely by agreement between the president and the State Duma.
        Ratify unconditionally the UN Convention against Corruption, including articles on combating the illicit enrichment of officials, as well as generally tighten penalties for corruption crimes.
        Transfer state companies together with other state assets under the control of a special fund under the FIU. This will put them under strict public control.
        The management of state-owned companies will be equated with government officials. in the rules for disclosing income and expenses.
        To begin an active search abroad for Russian money stolen as a result of corruption crimes, for their further return to the country. These funds will also go to the fund under the FIU.
        To reduce the state’s presence in the economy as an owner and business entity."- everything is great and wonderful (isn’t it?) - but why transfer something to the FIU, equal officials and other blah blah - IF they ALL will be eliminated anyway (state campaigns) ??
        And such pearls throughout the program
        "Raise minimum wage up to 25 thousand rubles. "and right there-
        "To bureaucratize the interaction of business with the government and minimize control over it, significantly reduce payroll taxes; reduce taxes by a multiple for small businesses. These changes will not only stimulate the development of the economy, but will also make fairer the distribution of income from economic growth. "- where is he going to take denyuzhki ???
        and so on, like that ....
        1. Pancir026
          Pancir026 18 December 2017 13: 57 New
          +1
          Quote: your1970
          Part from Lesha program

          In the furnace and Lesha bulk and generally all who hobble with him. Yeltsin mess compared to Navalna ... little hell seems ..
          1. your1970
            your1970 18 December 2017 15: 26 New
            0
            it was a response to a motion to vote:
            Quote: Esoteric
            For whom I would go to vote on the move, so for Lyokha. Of course, to whom he and Lyokha, and for whom - Alex. There DAM is not for everyone either - Dimon. Alexey was in prison, and in Russia we don’t put bad people in prison ... One trouble is that they are also allowed to run for president ...
            1. Pancir026
              Pancir026 18 December 2017 15: 29 New
              +1
              Quote: your1970
              it was a response to a motion to vote:

              Well, that's my answer, where it’s better to sit in a tour.
          2. Baloo
            Baloo 18 December 2017 18: 48 New
            +2
            Quote: Pancir026
            Quote: your1970
            Part from Lesha program

            In the furnace and Lesha bulk and generally all who hobble with him. Yeltsin mess compared to Navalna ... little hell seems ..

            It is enough to read the transcript of negotiations with Tsrul Browder, such as cheche, to understand the essence of the narrative. And why did he have foreigners in his foundation?
            1. Pancir026
              Pancir026 18 December 2017 18: 50 New
              +1
              Quote: Balu
              And why did he have foreigners in his foundation?

              As always, puppeteers rule with corrupt dolls.
  8. Simon
    Simon 18 December 2017 06: 31 New
    +3
    Quote: Herkulesich
    And I, unlike you, already know the President of Russia -new, with old manners! !!!! wassat The same low fighter. ... lol !!!! He is fighting against something, but corruption is winning. ...

    And there is corruption everywhere, in any country and in Europe, and in America, and even in China, although in China they shoot for it fool If Putin remains, then she will surely decline! yes
  9. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 18 December 2017 06: 33 New
    +3
    presidential election campaign officially launched
    And from this it follows that the "liberal" and "dissenting" fingers are more actively running around the keyboard on all sites ahead of what develops in the head. The main cliches are already memorized.
  10. Rimlianin
    Rimlianin 18 December 2017 06: 47 New
    +7
    If Zyug goes again from the Communist Party, the elections will essentially be uncontested and uninteresting. GDP and its policies in the interests of the oil business elite need a change. Otherwise, we will stagnate among the downshifters. Need a strong left candidate. Boldyrev, Grudinin, Glazyev .. We are waiting for what the Communist Party Congress will say.
    1. Herculesic
      Herculesic 18 December 2017 06: 57 New
      +4
      The congress will say, as always, our friend Zyuganov is everything! lol They will build his mausoleum over time! what
      1. Rimlianin
        Rimlianin 18 December 2017 07: 03 New
        +6
        Well then, you can forget about the Communist Party. If they nominate a fresh candidate who consolidates all patriotic forces around them, they have a chance to remain the main opposition. If Zyug is again, then in the next elections to the Duma, they may not be included.
        1. Monster_Fat
          Monster_Fat 18 December 2017 08: 21 New
          0
          Already, it seems like Grudinin commies put forward from their party, not?
      2. Pancir026
        Pancir026 18 December 2017 15: 30 New
        0
        Quote: Herkulesich
        The congress will say, as always, our friend Zyuganov is everything

        Nonsense is your hobbyhorse? Why?
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O03fwNr7bXI
    2. Stirbjorn
      Stirbjorn 18 December 2017 09: 05 New
      +4
      Quote: Rimlianin
      Boldyrev, Grudinin, Glazyev .. We are waiting for what the Communist Party Congress will say.

      On December 18, at 13:00, a press conference will be held at TASS News Agency dedicated to the presentation of the team and the program of the people's patriotic forces on the eve of the 2018 election. There will be Zyuganov, Boldyrev, Grudinin and others - perhaps today we find out the name of the candidate from patriots
    3. Pancir026
      Pancir026 18 December 2017 13: 58 New
      +1
      Quote: Rimlianin
      If Zyug goes again from the Communist Party,

      Grudinin most likely. So don’t remember Zyuganov’s wicked word, blaming him and everyone on when many of you voted for Yeltsin, then for a Zhirik, then for a swan, and for some other fool ..
  11. Monster_Fat
    Monster_Fat 18 December 2017 08: 19 New
    +1
    1. To appoint the election of the President of the Russian Federation on March 18 2018.

    They (elections) have already ended .... winked
  12. omit
    omit 18 December 2017 08: 42 New
    +3
    March 2018 election of Russian President Putin.
  13. Eurodav
    Eurodav 18 December 2017 09: 33 New
    0
    Started? Which track does the horse run on?
  14. Eurodav
    Eurodav 18 December 2017 09: 35 New
    +2
    Quote: omit
    March 2018 election of Russian President Putin.

    And you, oddly enough, are right, Judah’s son! In this I agree with you ...
  15. Overlock
    Overlock 18 December 2017 09: 43 New
    +1
    what for? Everything is clear to everyone. The winner is determined.
    1. Baloo
      Baloo 18 December 2017 11: 29 New
      +2
      Quote: Overlock
      what for? Everything is clear to everyone. The winner is determined.

      That's exactly what the position is counting on, that no one will go to the polls, give up, maybe some chicken like Berkova or Chekhova for president and slip through. After all, Sobchak tryndit, that she does not need power, she’s just a candidate against everyone. And so she is ready to cast her votes, if only to the bulk ...
      Not funny at all. Everyone is obliged to go to the polls and fulfill their civic duty — to vote for the one to whom the trust is, and at least to one of the media hens and males. wassat
  16. Overlock
    Overlock 18 December 2017 09: 47 New
    +8
    Election promises of presidential candidate V.V. Putin 2012/2018 (cross out the unnecessary):
    1 обещание.«Сегодняшний экономический рост России – порядка 4%. При этом наиболее развитые страны прибавляют по 1–2% в год, но это не должно вводить нас в заблуждение... Поэтому объективное требование одно: темпы нашего развития должны быть кардинально выше тех, что мы имеем сегодня. Нужно <...> раскрутить маховик экономического развития, темпов роста до 6–7% в год, а за следующие пять лет войти в пятерку крупнейших экономик мира. Абсолютно реальная задача» (Путин). «Наша страна <...> не должна быть слабой, бедной» (Медведев).
    What has been done: The average annual growth rate of Russian GDP has decreased from 7,1% in 1999–2007. and 4,3% in 2010–2011. up to 0,5% in 2012–2016, and the growth rate of per capita GDP over the past five years is negative. At the same time, the average annual growth rate of the world economy amounted to 3,3%, global GDP per capita - 2,1%. Over the past five years (2012–2016), during which the Russian GDP cumulatively grew by 2,2%, and the Russian GDP per capita, respectively, decreased by 0,1%, the world GDP grew by 17,7%, and global average per capita GDP increased by 11,1%.
    In 2011, Russia ranked 6th in the world in terms of GDP, measured by purchasing power parity (PPP) at current prices; 9th place - in terms of GDP, measured by PPP at constant prices in 2002, 9th place - in terms of GDP, measured in dollars at current exchange rates. In 2016, Russia still ranks 6th in terms of GDP, measured by PPP at current prices; however, it is already 10th in terms of GDP, measured by PPP at constant prices in 2002, and 12th in terms of GDP, measured in dollars at current exchange rates.
    If in 2011 the per capita indicator of Russian GDP amounted to 29,3% of the US level, then in 2016 - 27,1%. If in 2011 the size of the Russian economy was 9 times less than the Chinese, then in 2016 it was almost 13 times.
    2 promise. Investments and the structure of the economy
    "Moreover, this should not be raw materials, but a qualitatively different growth, built on investments, advanced technologies, on improving efficiency, on creating a modern industry" (Putin). “This is the modernization of the economy, the education system, the technical re-equipment of industry, the improvement of the investment climate <...> increase in productivity and labor safety” (Medvedev).
    What has been done: In 2012–2016 labor productivity in Russia has not increased, but decreased - by 0,1%. Over five years, the annual investment in the Russian economy fell by 5,8%, the volume of construction work - by 8,7%. With a total increase in industrial production in 2012–2016. by 4,6%, the extraction of raw materials grew slightly faster (by 5,4%) than the production of manufacturing industries (by 5,2%). At the same time, the production of machinery and equipment decreased by 6,6%, including automobile production fell by 26,3%, and railway cars - by 36,5%.
    3 promise. Advanced infrastructure development
    “We must lend a shoulder to business through the advanced development of infrastructure <...> Over the next 10 years, we will double the volume of road construction in the country” (Putin).
    What has been done: Ten years have not passed yet, but in the first four years (2012–2015), investments in the transport industry fell by 27,3%, including in rail transport - by 34,3%, in automobile (bus) - by 50,8%. If in 2011 93 km of new railway lines were introduced, in 2015 only 18 km. The depreciation of fixed assets as a whole in transport increased from 34,7% in 2011 to 41,1% in 2015, including on the railway - from 30,4 to 36,3%, on the bus - from 55,3, 59,2 to XNUMX%.
    4 promise. Increase wealth
    population.
    “Improving the well-being of our people <...> This is the fulfillment of social obligations, raising, as far as possible, salaries, pensions, benefits, fighting poverty, modernizing healthcare” (Medvedev). “By the end of 2014, the average salary in the country should increase 1,5 times and reach about 30–000 rubles. At the same time, the salaries of state employees should also increase significantly ”(Putin).
    What has been done: In 2014, the nominal average salary in the country really reached 32 rubles, and by the end of 500, even 2016 rubles. However, due to the continued rise in prices and the devaluation of the ruble, the purchasing power of wages, benefits, pensions, and other cash incomes of the population over the five years has either not increased or even decreased. Compared to 36, the average wage in real terms (including inflation) increased by only 700%, the average pension by 2011%, consumer spending remained at the same level, disposable cash income decreased by 5,4% , and all cash income fell by 1,1%. The population with incomes below the subsistence minimum for five years increased from 1,6 million to 4,1 million people, and their share in the country's population increased from 17,9 to 20,3%.
  17. Altona
    Altona 18 December 2017 10: 10 New
    +6
    Quote: Rimlianin
    If Zyug goes again from the Communist Party, the elections will essentially be uncontested and uninteresting. GDP and its policies in the interests of the oil business elite need a change. Otherwise, we will stagnate among the downshifters. Need a strong left candidate. Boldyrev, Grudinin, Glazyev .. We are waiting for what the Communist Party Congress will say.

    ---------------------------
    It seems like today they want to nominate Grudinin, the chairman of the Lenin state farm. The person is generally known.
    1. Rimlianin
      Rimlianin 18 December 2017 11: 37 New
      +5
      If this is so, then there is a good chance of a second round. And there ... mmm ... may the Lord have mercy on Russia and end the era of compradors ...
    2. Pancir026
      Pancir026 18 December 2017 14: 00 New
      +3
      Quote: Altona
      Grudinin, chairman of the Lenin state farm. A person generally known.

      That would be good. It would be a clear sign to Putin that everything, all experiments with liberalism in any form are excluded.
  18. Altona
    Altona 18 December 2017 10: 14 New
    +4
    I am for Stalin. There is no one else to choose. Only such a warehouse manager is needed. Carry out internal cleanings.
  19. AleBors
    AleBors 18 December 2017 10: 15 New
    +4
    I didn’t go, I don’t go, and I won’t go to any elections. All this is farce and fraud.
    1. Baloo
      Baloo 18 December 2017 11: 30 New
      +2
      Quote: AleBors
      I didn’t go, I don’t go, and I won’t go to any elections. All this is farce and fraud.

      These are exactly what the dogs need. Arrogant Saxons and other enemies of Russia will lazily clap your hands for your position, is not it a shame?
      1. AleBors
        AleBors 18 December 2017 16: 28 New
        +4
        Why should I be ashamed? I work honestly. I am ashamed to participate in this. So I do not participate. About little dogs and other garden is not worth mentioning. I do not belong to the opposition. I just do not see a candidacy yet that could be supported, in addition, I do not live in the forest, and I understand that there is no alternative to GDP. And not foreseen. Your sarcasm is inappropriate. I want to have a clear conscience, so that it wouldn’t be disgusting, like my parents, that once the EBN was supported in every possible way, at the time of its rise in the late 80s ...
    2. Pancir026
      Pancir026 18 December 2017 14: 01 New
      0
      Quote: AleBors
      I didn’t go, I don’t go, and I won’t go to any elections. All this is farce and fraud.

      Why are you yelling that everything is bad in the country?
      1. AleBors
        AleBors 18 December 2017 16: 29 New
        +2
        Did you hear me? I'm not screaming. Is it good in the country? How much is gas now? And how much was yesterday?
        1. Baloo
          Baloo 18 December 2017 17: 38 New
          +1
          Quote: AleBors
          Did you hear me? I'm not screaming. Is it good in the country? How much is gas now? And how much was yesterday?

          Did you hear me? I'm not screaming. Is it good in the country? How much is gas now? And how much was yesterday?

          Gasoline has never declined in price, nor has the price of hydrocarbons. In the USSR, gas at some point became free, I remember these huge meters the size of a basin.
          Only here is the position on the State Department candy wrappers and is engaged in propaganda for people like you that everything is bad, worse and worse. Participation in elections is the duty of every adult. And understand, we are not choosing the secretary of the Komsomol organization, but the President and everyone have equal rights. And to go on about the position, you’ll be deceived, don’t go or choose me, I’m a dog against everyone.
          1. Mordvin 3
            Mordvin 3 18 December 2017 17: 46 New
            +8
            Baloo, I understand your arguments and respect your opinion, but I can’t accept them. I dance from the fact that Putin was one of those who ruined my country - the USSR, and he was not just a citizen, but an officer of the KGB, a structure that was supposed to stand up for the state.
            1. Baloo
              Baloo 18 December 2017 18: 18 New
              +1
              Quote: Mordvin 3
              Putin was one of those who ruined my country - the USSR, and he was not an ordinary citizen, but an officer of the KGB, the structure that was supposed to stand up for the state.

              And what does Putin have to do with it? Putin in Dresden was not afraid to go to the Fritz with Stechkin and say: my colleagues and I are armed and will shoot at anyone who tries to penetrate our territory. And there were a lot of them, did they have at least one machine gun?
              Karaulov, in the moment of truth (why the program was closed, is not clear), has fragments about Gorbachev from the 5-hour last interview of Kryuchkov a few days before his death. By the way, none of the 10 books by Kryuchkov in the internet and shops you will not find. Well, about bank cards from the pre-South Korea Rodeu, everyone knows: Misha, well, when do you hand over the cards to the cashier? Then, then ... They were found during a search during the Emergency Committee (for 100 thousand dollars, the boy was preparing siding routes). I was most outraged by the fragment about the daddy with evidence of the recruitment of Yakovlev and Kalugin in the 50s during an internship at Columbia University. What prevented Kryuchkov? He, too, was a party boss and was a member of the Politburo. Gorbachev, then, then, and before the KGChP: here, show him to him.
              Work on the collapse of the USSR was proceeding systematically, because Yakovlev was the second person in the Central Committee secretary for ideology. But what does Putin have to do with it? He resigned. He worked as a cab, then he got a personal initiative as a chauffeur (free) to Sobchak. Knowledge and experience were appreciated. Like this.
              My current work is related to quality assessment in the main profession, answers to complaints and appeals. So you have to be objective. The measure of human actions. Words, reflections of thoughts, no matter how a person pretends, are all the same word and deed are one. This is my personal grudge against unknown to me figures with epaulettes and caps. Half a lifetime ago, some bastard bastard was inventing fables, and they were checking me and checking me for half my life, despite the fact that I did not know any secrets and did not know. At the end I’m tired, just tired and I started to tryndet at every corner, such as the bastards that bastards do, to light up the snitch-provocateurs. Now they brazenly and unceremoniously do not climb, but they are rolling up. There was a moment, I thought, maybe I am suspicious and everything seems to be? After going through dozens of psychological tests on a test bank in Yandex, I found out everything about myself, saw my reflection in the mirror of tests. Calmed down that there is no schizo, a high level of logical thinking and resistance to external psychological effects.
              Imagine, people after that ceased to be a mystery to me, even when they lie and pretend with all their tricks and show-offs, tricks, etc. GDP I believe. hi
              1. Mordvin 3
                Mordvin 3 18 December 2017 18: 38 New
                +7
                Quote: Balu
                GDP I believe.

                But not me. It is not clear to me why the confiscation of property was canceled from its filing, or RUBOPs were destroyed. I don’t understand a lot of things. There are many questions, but no answers. Recently I watched his interview on the 91 year, so I strongly disagree with the position of GDP. Sincerely. hi
                1. Pancir026
                  Pancir026 18 December 2017 20: 51 New
                  +2
                  Quote: mordvin xnumx
                  Quote: Balu
                  GDP I believe.

                  But not me. It is not clear to me why the confiscation of property was canceled from its filing, or RUBOPs were destroyed. I don’t understand a lot of things. There are many questions, but no answers. Recently I watched his interview on the 91 year, so I strongly disagree with the position of GDP. Sincerely. hi

                  Colleague, I don’t understand something.
                  then what- http://cabinet-lawyer.ru/uk-rf/konfiskatsiya-imus
                  hchestva-statya-104.html
                  Quote: Mordvin 3
                  or destroyed RUBOPs.

                  Oru had a lot, but the realities were still those. RUBOP was simplified with crime, to the shame and regret of many honest operas.
                  Quote: Mordvin 3
                  Recently I watched his interview of the 91st year, so I strongly disagree with the position of GDP.

                  I looked the same .. and I don’t like the same thing, but you have to make a choice, if only because you don’t vote, you get what you get — all these curling rings and others. an illusion to those who think they rule, in their absolute right to worsen your own sacred life.
                  1. Mordvin 3
                    Mordvin 3 18 December 2017 21: 04 New
                    +4
                    Quote: Pancir026
                    then what- http://cabinet-lawyer.ru/uk-rf/konfiskatsiya-imus
                    hchestva-statya-104.html

                    The link does not work. 404.
                    Quote: Pancir026
                    but you have to make a choice

                    No doubt, it is necessary. However, I recall how the CEC swept Ivashov in the elections. And I get the impression that the Kremlin is carefully sifting through all the candidates, and those who can compete with Putin will simply not get into the race.
              2. Stirbjorn
                Stirbjorn 18 December 2017 21: 48 New
                +3
                Quote: Balu
                And what does Putin have to do with it? Putin in Dresden was not afraid to go to the Fritz with Stechkin and say: my colleagues and I are armed and will shoot at anyone who tries to penetrate our territory. And there were a lot of them, did they have at least one machine gun?
                You can source this information, because I’m hearing about this not for the first time, but exclusively from you hi
          2. AleBors
            AleBors 18 December 2017 17: 59 New
            +1
            Dear, I am not calling anyone to anything. I express my own opinion, and if it differs from yours, this is not my problem. But you are clearly waving a flag ... Why do you need this? Or is there a vested interest?
          3. AleBors
            AleBors 19 December 2017 08: 43 New
            0
            “Propaganda” and “candy wrappers” are of course scary ... For someone. I'm not afraid. For myself, I decided everything for a long time. All of the things you mentioned do not bother or touch me at all. I just do not want to participate in anything. This is my position. And you go, you can still take the flag and put on a T-shirt with a portrait. This is your business. So I recommend not to worry that someone does not share your views. Take it easy.
        2. Pancir026
          Pancir026 18 December 2017 20: 47 New
          +1
          Quote: AleBors
          Did you hear me? I'm not screaming. Is it good in the country? How much is gas now? And how much was yesterday?

          Do you hear yourself?
          You know, the position of the ostrich. When the head is in the sand, and the ahedron outward, leads to a definite result, the head hurts.
          Do you understand allegory?
          Or else chew?
          1. AleBors
            AleBors 19 December 2017 08: 39 New
            0
            Are you agitating me? Do not spray with saliva. Your allegory is unsuccessful. It’s sad that you think too flat, but this is normal for any viewer. I wish you creative and personal growth!
  20. Bronevick
    Bronevick 18 December 2017 12: 12 New
    0
    Well, Uncle Vova, no fluff, no feather.
  21. Combitor
    Combitor 18 December 2017 13: 03 New
    +8
    The Olympics in South Korea - a symbol of the next election of Putin.
  22. Overlock
    Overlock 18 December 2017 13: 21 New
    0
    Quote: Balu
    like Berkova or Chekhova for president and slip through. After all, Sobchak tryndit, that she does not need power, she’s just a candidate against everyone. And so she is ready to cast her votes, if only to the bulk ...

    do you believe that it's funny.
  23. Overlock
    Overlock 18 December 2017 13: 26 New
    +4
    Quote: Balu
    I have been in medicine for more than half my life and I have something to compare from the beginning of the 80s, then Gorbachev, then EBN and the last 17 years. It became better in medicine and with accessibility and quality, there are questions and wishes too.

    do not la la. I have been in medicine since 1980. I can also compare. It's getting shitty!
    1. Baloo
      Baloo 18 December 2017 18: 32 New
      +2
      Quote: Overlock
      do not la la. I have been in medicine since 1980. I can also compare. It's getting shitty!

      I have experience in 8 specialties, 6 of which were improvements and all sorts of studies.
      I started as a pediatric surgeon and as a pediatrician I had to run around the site part-time. Under the Communists, patients had to be puzzled with the manufacture of strementa, records, etc. Now everything is there, at the end of the year only quotas for VMPs end and you have to send patients to self-purchase. The worst of it was under Yeltsin. You will come to the emergency room, and on duty a pair of gloves, 5 films and spin as you want. The film was cut with scissors, wrapped in black paper and removed. It happened that patients had to be sent to the nearest XNUMX-hour pharmacy for film (!), Bandages (!) And plaster (!). So you speak worse and worse in medicine? Did you vote for deputies? Demand. And you did not go to the polls? Ah, there you go. Then pay attention to the magic number in your MHI policy. And then in each health facility there are phone numbers of managers up to the Minister of Health. In Tatarstan, we still have e-government terminals. But it’s easier to contact the insurance.
      1. Overlock
        Overlock 18 December 2017 19: 28 New
        0
        Why is this opus? What are you talking about? About your talents?
        1. Baloo
          Baloo 18 December 2017 19: 45 New
          +1
          Quote: Overlock
          Why is this opus? What are you talking about? About your talents?

          Yes, lana about talents, opus .... You are well aware of what. Most of the questions and appeals to the GDP are the competence of the Prime Minister, I hope we will part with him after the election and his good mood. I’m saying that people who choose it this way must be demanded from deputies, from the local authorities, and not to wait. that someone will come and decide everything.
  24. Overlock
    Overlock 18 December 2017 13: 28 New
    +2
    Quote: Balu
    Social? There are differences in Ukraine and Russia.

    listen! Tired of comparisons with Ukraine. Compare us in 2013 and 2017!
    1. Pancir026
      Pancir026 18 December 2017 13: 43 New
      +5
      Quote: Overlock
      Tired of comparisons with Ukraine. Compare us in 2013 and 2017!

      Comparable. Since 2010, pension has become exactly two-thirds less, gasoline has become half more expensive. What else to compare? Housing and communal services?
      And you can convince me that it’s better now that you haven’t spent a lot of time and money since 2010 on the reproduction of the kind of talkers and nouveau riche. But somehow you weren’t really concerned about the development of the country?
      Firstly: the Ministry of Finance said for another month or half a month that the USDRUB forecast for the end of the year is 60 rubles. So, the Ministry of Finance will do everything necessary to adjust the course to these figures.

      Secondly: In total, from November 8 to December 6, the Bank of Russia will spend 122,8 billion rubles. for the purchase of currency for the Ministry of Finance. The announced size of November purchases will be the maximum in the entire history of these operations, which started in February 2017.

      Third: Trump elected Jerome Paul as Fed Chairman. And he is a supporter of a strong buck. That is why on the day of Trump's appointment, Jerome Paulla began to fall so much the ruble. Bucks began to strengthen to all world currencies!

      Fourth: Bucks is strengthening faster than the ruble and without any new Fed chairmen. Recent reports of US GDP growth speak eloquently of this.

      Fifth: the Central Bank once again lowered the rate by 0,25p, which also weakened the ruble due to the flight of traders from the ruble

      Sixth: The flight of traders accelerated from the ruble.

      Of the positive, only oil above $ 60 per barrel. However, this is the only plus for the ruble.

      PS. I forgot to add sanctions, which will begin in 2018. This also affects the ruble.
      Who say thank you?
      1. Overlock
        Overlock 18 December 2017 13: 46 New
        +3
        totally agree with you. That's just Baloo disagrees with us
        1. Pancir026
          Pancir026 18 December 2017 14: 02 New
          +2
          Balu doesn’t agree and doesn’t always agree. He just sees the situation, somewhat one-sided .. at least in medicine .. oh, how I disagree with him ..
        2. Baloo
          Baloo 18 December 2017 18: 35 New
          +1
          Quote: Overlock
          totally agree with you. That's just Baloo disagrees with us

          Yes, imagine disagree. Do not forget that in the world, too, something has changed. We are not on the island, although they are trying to isolate us on all fronts. Maybe you want, like a dog, to surrender to the mercy of the winner and enjoy yourself as a neighbor? They have fun there, only a Ukrainian sukashvili is worth what.
          1. Romey
            Romey 18 December 2017 21: 49 New
            +1
            Quote: Balu
            Quote: Overlock
            totally agree with you. That's just Baloo disagrees with us

            Yes, imagine disagree. Do not forget that in the world, too, something has changed. We are not on the island, although they are trying to isolate us on all fronts. Maybe you want, like a dog, to surrender to the mercy of the winner and enjoy yourself as a neighbor? They have fun there, only a Ukrainian sukashvili is worth what.

            With Putin and the continuation of the suicidal political and economic course, getting pleasure as neighbors is simply inevitable ...
  25. Overlock
    Overlock 18 December 2017 13: 48 New
    +3
    Quote: Balu
    I need a competent, sane, responsible leader as President of the Russian Federation, and not all kinds of media hens and cocks.

    to listen to you, then in our big country all the roosters and media hens
  26. Overlock
    Overlock 18 December 2017 13: 49 New
    +3
    Quote: Balu
    I don’t need chaos and a complete mess like in Ukraine.

    how they intimidated you! Watch the box properly. If it is logical to reason, then in the 24th we all die
    1. Baloo
      Baloo 18 December 2017 18: 41 New
      +2
      Quote: Overlock
      Quote: Balu
      I don’t need chaos and a complete mess like in Ukraine.

      how they intimidated you! Watch the box properly. If it is logical to reason, then in the 24th we all die

      No, what are you. It’s really hard for me to surprise or scare me. Profession requires to be calm as a boa constrictor.
      In the 24th, the majority will live and enjoy life. Early on this. The main thing is to know at every moment what to do next, isn't it?
  27. Overlock
    Overlock 18 December 2017 13: 53 New
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    Quote: Balu
    shame on you?

    And you? For 22 million beggars in the richest country, for salaries that you can’t live on, for pensioners who are picking up trash? Aren't you ashamed of the children whose treatment is paid by box throughout the country?
    In my hospital last week, my grandmother died, who bought the cheapest sausage. I asked her, "it was impossible to get better," he answered simply, "there was not enough money."
    I am ashamed for that.
    1. Pancir026
      Pancir026 18 December 2017 14: 03 New
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      Quote: Overlock
      For 22 million beggars in the richest country, for salaries that you can’t live on, for pensioners who are picking up trash? Aren't you ashamed of the children whose treatment is paid by box throughout the country?
      In my hospital last week, my grandmother died, who bought the cheapest sausage. I asked her, "it was impossible to get better," he answered simply, "there was not enough money."
      I am ashamed for that.

      Yeah .. it's from an exact sketch from nature ...
    2. Baloo
      Baloo 18 December 2017 18: 45 New
      +1
      Quote: Overlock
      Quote: Balu
      shame on you?

      And you? For 22 million beggars in the richest country, for salaries that you can’t live on, for pensioners who are picking up trash? Aren't you ashamed of the children whose treatment is paid by box throughout the country?
      In my hospital last week, my grandmother died, who bought the cheapest sausage. I asked her, "it was impossible to get better," he answered simply, "there was not enough money."
      I am ashamed for that.

      Understand. I fed some patients in my room to Peltsin if I saw that no one was coming. I passed a bag-type on the watch through my sister or nurse.
      I see the problem in that the people ask little from the local authorities, from the same deputies. Accustomed to Soviet thinking, tomorrow should be better than yesterday ... That’s the CPSU and the state should all ... We need to move on the ground ourselves, and not hope that the president, like Santa Claus, will definitely send a present.
      1. Overlock
        Overlock 18 December 2017 19: 30 New
        +1
        did you even read what you wrote? You answer how GDP at conferences is a lot and about nothing
        1. Baloo
          Baloo 18 December 2017 19: 59 New
          +1
          Quote: Overlock
          did you even read what you wrote? You answer how GDP at conferences is a lot and about nothing

          To share your grief with you? I share crying You do not want to vote for GDP? Nobody agitates you. Are you sure that there is an alternative, hope that with a wave of a magic wand a hero will appear and at once solve all the problems? For some time, the hero needs to delve into the matters, pick up a team, the team also delve into the affairs, etc.
          I do not think that the GDP will also want to continue to be president after this period. The burden of responsibility crushes. Therefore, he agreed, agreed as a self-nominated person.
          Those who are comparable to GDP while running into other positions, most likely new governors. All the same, the presidency of Russia is not for you the election of a captain on a pirate ship. There should be education, competence, experience in civil service, real achievements. How's Sobchak doing with achievements? He makes money on corporate parties, lectures on how to build a business. What else? How about the achievements of the Navral? Lawyer? And in what matters did he specialize, what processes did he win? Already funny. I don’t even consider the rest.
  28. Overlock
    Overlock 18 December 2017 15: 37 New
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    Quote: ImPerts
    Duc Merkel Chancellor since November 22, 2005

    As the editorial office of Spiegel notes, the collapse of Merkelism is happening: “in order to maintain economic stability, Merkel emasculated the political landscape for many years, reducing the turnout in the interests of her party. This led to a critical mass of disappointed citizens
    As you can see, it was not in vain sitting, as it looks like Russia.
  29. Overlock
    Overlock 18 December 2017 15: 38 New
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    Quote: Pancir026
    Grudinin most likely.

    worthy, quite agree
    1. Baloo
      Baloo 18 December 2017 20: 09 New
      +1
      Quote: Overlock
      Quote: Pancir026
      Grudinin most likely.

      worthy, quite agree

      Can he do it? Maybe for starters the prime minister? GDP was the prime minister and quite effective in the most difficult years.
      1. Overlock
        Overlock 18 December 2017 20: 26 New
        +1
        once and for someone it is necessary to begin.
  30. Overlock
    Overlock 18 December 2017 21: 56 New
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    Quote: Balu
    In the 24th, the majority will live and enjoy life

    and the minority, to die?
    1. Mordvin 3
      Mordvin 3 18 December 2017 22: 06 New
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      Citizens Aesculapius, allow me to ask a question. My sister told me the other day that in Russia there are about one doctor on 3 thousand people. Is it a lot or a little? recourse
      1. Overlock
        Overlock 18 December 2017 22: 48 New
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        good question. According to the standards for 1.5 thousand inhabitants, 1 local doctor. It turns out that in 2 sections 1 doctor.
        According to official figures: 27% of district physicians, 18% of pediatricians and 28% of general practitioners are lacking in medical institutions.
        In the presence of 31,4 thousand pediatrician rates, 25,8 thousand pediatrician doctors admitted. For a general practitioner, these figures were 13 thousand and 9,3 thousand, respectively. Director of the Health Foundation Eduard Gavrilov estimates the total shortage of general practitioners, general practitioners and pediatricians at 22,2 thousand people.
        From 2000 to 2015, the number of hospitals in Russia was halved - from 10,7 to 5,4 thousand; the number of hospital beds available to the population fell by a third, to 1,2 million, and in rural areas - by 40%, experts at the Center for Economic and Political Reforms (CEPR) calculated. According to their calculations, if the "optimization" of healthcare in the country continues at the same rate (that is, an average of 353 hospitals will be closed per year), then by 2021-22 the number of medical facilities in the country will fall to 3 thousand - that is, the level of the Russian Empire in 1913 year.
        1. Mordvin 3
          Mordvin 3 18 December 2017 22: 56 New
          +3
          Thanks for the answer. It’s sad. She is also a doctor, she said that she had calculated approximately, given that many work on two bets. hi
    2. Baloo
      Baloo 19 December 2017 06: 24 New
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      Quote: Overlock
      and a minority - to die

      population decline for natural reasons.
      1. Overlock
        Overlock 19 December 2017 10: 29 New
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        Ie the death of the working population, natural causes?
        1. Baloo
          Baloo 19 December 2017 10: 34 New
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          Quote: Overlock
          Ie the death of the working population, natural causes?

          Do not pretend, you perfectly understood what I mean. People die not only from injuries and illnesses, but also from old age. yes
          1. Overlock
            Overlock 19 December 2017 10: 49 New
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            you pretend to be a working-age population. And what about old age?
            Further, I consider the dispute pointless
            1. Baloo
              Baloo 19 December 2017 11: 08 New
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              Quote: Overlock
              Further, I consider the dispute pointless

              Maybe you're right. This is normal. You are dissatisfied with the quality of life - me too. I see development prospects and believe in improvement. You are not. Notice, I respect your point of view, although I do not agree with you.