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Ukraine's population has shrunk by another 150 thousand

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Over the 3 quarter of this year, the number of Ukrainians decreased by another 150 thousand, reports RIA News message channel tsh.




Every day there are less of us on 500
complains deputy of the Verkhovna Rada Andrei Shipko.

According to demographers, this is due to the high mortality rate, but the main factor remains the low birth rate. According to this indicator, Ukraine today occupies the 172-th place in the world according to the UN rating.

There are many reasons for this. In particular, these include the armed conflict in the Donbass, low incomes of parents, social benefits that do not correspond to today.

If you do not have earnings, or the husband does not provide for the family, it is very difficult. Government payments are not enough even for the diapers themselves,
say Ukrainian women.

Despite the constant increase in prices, the increase in the size of payments to young mothers in the budget for the next year is not provided.

Because of this, many young families and think about the first child is scary, but the second and there is no question,
noted in the report.

The Minsotspolitiki indicate that they have repeatedly advocated an increase in payments, but this may not have the desired effect.

The channel recalls that from 1993-th to 2016 year, the number of inhabitants of Ukraine decreased by almost 10 million - from 52,2 to 42,8 million people, these figures take into account the fact of the reunification of the Crimea with Russia.
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  1. Karakut
    Karakut 17 December 2017 09: 18 New
    +8
    The war with Russia, until the last Ukrainian ..!
    1. Teberii
      Teberii 17 December 2017 09: 21 New
      +1
      Civil war is the reduction of their own population, they believe Crimea.
      1. alexmach
        alexmach 17 December 2017 11: 50 New
        +1
        Civil war is the reduction of their own population, they believe Crimea.


        Well, in general, they’re doing the right thing - the main losses are the population who left Ukraine, both with the lands and in itself. not killed directly during the confrontation.

        In addition, the falling birth rate - it’s not so simple with it, there is another factor here - the demographic pit coming from the Second World War and reinforced in the 90s is gradually coming up. Those born in the 80s have already matured and small generations of the 90s are replacing them. And then there was war and new economic difficulties.
    2. Thrall
      Thrall 17 December 2017 09: 22 New
      22
      In the end, this country will shrink to the original three areas.
      1. Sergey-svs
        Sergey-svs 17 December 2017 09: 45 New
        13
        Quote: Thrall
        In the end, this country will shrink to the original three areas.

        No wonder with such a hymn! negative A burial country with a cult of necrophilia and with the same "happy" holidays! fool Not a country, but some kind of funeral home! yes
      2. Karakut
        Karakut 17 December 2017 11: 38 New
        +2
        Quote: Thrall
        In the end, this country will shrink to the original three areas.

        The province will be Russia together with Poland ..
        1. MOSKVITYANIN
          MOSKVITYANIN 17 December 2017 22: 14 New
          +1
          Quote: Karakut
          Quote: Thrall
          In the end, this country will shrink to the original three areas.

          The province will be Russia together with Poland ..

          What the hell? How many times have we been filed for divorce ..... let them live alone ...
    3. Jedi
      Jedi 17 December 2017 09: 22 New
      +7
      the number of residents of Ukraine decreased by almost 10 million - from 52,2 to 42,8 million people, these figures take into account the fact of the reunification of Crimea with Russia.

      Interestingly, these statistics take into account refugees and earned money? If not, the numbers are even sadder.
      1. Thrall
        Thrall 17 December 2017 09: 29 New
        +5
        Based on the analysis of bread and flour consumed in the country, in Ukraine there are no more than 25 million people. There are such studies.
        1. Jedi
          Jedi 17 December 2017 09: 31 New
          +4
          hi I read it, that's why I am interested in how the numbers were formed in the declared statistics.
        2. Pereira
          Pereira 17 December 2017 09: 36 New
          +5
          More, much more. They are now Europeans. Instead of bread they eat sushi, dumplings there, all kinds of boiled toads. Why do they need more bread? Well, not Russia.
      2. pvv113
        pvv113 17 December 2017 10: 31 New
        +1
        Hi, hello! Pay attention that you have already reconciled with Crimea wink
        1. Jedi
          Jedi 17 December 2017 10: 33 New
          +5
          Hello Volodya! hi They have long been reconciled, but they will not stop stinking for a long time. yes Like a horse, to be "offended." lol
          1. pvv113
            pvv113 17 December 2017 11: 19 New
            +2
            At the expense of the offended - well, you are in the know wink
      3. alexmach
        alexmach 17 December 2017 11: 52 New
        +1
        Yes it does. In addition, you need to understand that refugees and zarobitchane still can return.
        1. S.V.YU
          S.V.YU 17 December 2017 12: 03 New
          +1
          Quite possible ! But very NOT soon!
          1. alexmach
            alexmach 17 December 2017 12: 06 New
            +1
            HZ. So my classmate lived for six months as a refugee in Europe and returned.

            Zarobitchans are generally migratory birds - live in 2 houses.
        2. alexmach
          alexmach 17 December 2017 12: 57 New
          +1
          Interestingly, these statistics take into account refugees and earned money? If not, the numbers are even sadder.

          Ah .. no, I was wrong. Given zarobitchane and their quantitative growth in recent years, probably another 5 million should be taken away from the figures given in the article.

          In my profane opinion, something about 37 million is a real estimate. She was brought in the article at the same price a month ago.
      4. Kot_Kuzya
        Kot_Kuzya 18 December 2017 01: 34 New
        0
        Of course not. If we subtract the population of the LPR and the DPR, which is 5 million people, plus about another 3 million who left to work in the EU and the Russian Federation, but who are formally registered as living in the country, then the real population of Ukraine is 34 million.
    4. Andrey K
      Andrey K 17 December 2017 10: 50 New
      +7
      Quote: Karakut
      The war with Russia, until the last Ukrainian ..!

      Yes, not only the notorious "war", but also the result of the Maidanuto-Nazi ideology ...
      With the onset of the conflict in the Donbass, specifically with us, in the Samara region, 15 and a few thousand former citizens of Ukraine arrived. Most of them, of course, came from Donetsk and Lugansk regions, and were from central Ukraine, from the western regions. At first, suburban sanatoriums were allocated to them, gradually the refugees dispersed, and found work. Those who wanted to settle down, the benefit of some special assimilation was not required. In our region, as in the neighboring Orenburg, since the time of the construction of fortresses (the XNUMXth century), there are a lot of young Russians, mainly immigrants from Cherkasy.
      There were, of course, excesses: some of the refugees came exclusively for maintenance - to receive benefits, to scandal, to demand ... But they quickly realized that no one refused to help, but they were not welcome to sit on the neck of the host. As a result, 4 thousand people were removed from the register and left.
      So in our area, 11 thousand of our fellow tribesmen found a second homeland.
      1. Pereira
        Pereira 17 December 2017 11: 25 New
        +1
        Thanks for the interesting statistics. From my sources I know how much mold came under the guise of refugees. Especially nice that the normal majority.
        1. Andrey K
          Andrey K 17 December 2017 11: 55 New
          +7
          Quote: Pereira
          Thanks for the interesting statistics. From my sources I know how much mold came under the guise of refugees. Especially nice that the normal majority.

          Normal is really the majority. Anyone who wanted peace and tranquility - he received all this: a roof over his head, he built children in a nursery and schools, there were no problems with work, there would be a desire ...
          And “mold” - that’s why it’s mold, come to try to grab it, raise a bucket ... Our people are simple and calm, it didn’t work, so the “mold” dried up ...
  2. DEDPIHTO
    DEDPIHTO 17 December 2017 09: 18 New
    +4
    Once Ukrainians have children to do .. some are jumping, others are trying to survive, the laborer in other countries ... they threw the third for slaughter. It’s sad. recourse
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  4. Fedorov
    Fedorov 17 December 2017 09: 23 New
    16
    Plus I’ll leave, To Siberia, to my Homeland. A brother on the Yamal Peninsula will help. Ugh to Ukraine, got it all.
    1. Lelek
      Lelek 17 December 2017 12: 19 New
      0
      Quote: Fedorov
      Ugh to Ukraine, got it all.


      Hey. And then there are the "friendship-polar" with a knife in the back.
  5. aszzz888
    aszzz888 17 December 2017 09: 26 New
    +2
    ... yes, they started to jump less ... they began to scratch more turnips ...
  6. Observer2014
    Observer2014 17 December 2017 09: 33 New
    +4
    Ukraine's population has shrunk by another 150 thousand
    Yes, no one is interested in this anymore. Including the citizens of Ukraine themselves. Even in the early 90s there was a rush from / from all airs that 10 million people should be left at maximum. That’s actually what we see.
    1. aszzz888
      aszzz888 17 December 2017 09: 41 New
      +2
      Observer2014 Today, 09:33 Yes, nobody is interested in this anymore. Including the citizens of Ukraine themselves.

      ... it resembles lying under the guillotine - anyway the end ...
    2. alexmach
      alexmach 17 December 2017 11: 56 New
      +2
      Well, in general, yes, in Bandera’s ideology, we must get rid of all the “wrong Ukrainians”. If they leave, then it’s better.
  7. Strips
    Strips 17 December 2017 09: 39 New
    +5


    21.11.2017

    The population of Russia began to decline again - for the first time in five years. Now we are almost 147 million people. For 9 months, the natural decline amounted to 106 thousand, of which almost 16 thousand - voluntarily took their own lives. If it were not for the influx of migrants - from Belarus, Syria, Tajikistan - there would be no population growth at all. The negative trend may persist until 2035.
    According to Rosstat, released on Monday, the resident population of the Russian Federation as of October 1, 2017 amounted to 146,9 million people.

    The natural population decline in January-September amounted to 106,2 thousand people. In the same period last year, there was a small, but population growth of 18,2 thousand people.
    Most of the dead - 648 thousand people - from circulatory diseases. More than 14 thousand people died in road accidents. Poisoned with low-quality alcohol - more than 5 thousand .. There were 6,7 thousand killed.




    https://m.gazeta.ru/business/2017/11/20/10995362.
    shtml

    Unfortunately, problems are not only in Ukraine.
    1. avt
      avt 17 December 2017 11: 06 New
      +3
      Quote: Tiras
      If it were not for the influx of migrants - from Belarus, Syria, Tajikistan - there would be no population growth at all.

      Read more...
      Quote: Tiras
      https://m.gazeta.ru/

      Newspaper.vru read ... okay, but to cite and quote - do not respect yourself. fool Well, at least before giving this quote-book, didn’t want to think? Where did the refugees from Syria come from in Russia? wassat There aren’t a thousand of them, those who were pounded in transit to Norway. Belarusians go to work and that I have not heard that, similarly to the Ukrainians, they tore for permanent residence in Russia. Yes, if that were so, Belarus would have dried up to one million in a month.
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      Calculation of the consumption of bread. At present, less than 30 million people live in Ukraine on this indicator. Are the rest on departure? Well, yes, in Russia, 4 million, in Poland yet, well, in other places, on the little things ...

      On average, there minus 200 thousand a year is irrevocably, well, the inhabitants of Zarobitch have really resolved by 6 million.
      Quote: Observer2014
      Yes, no one is interested in this anymore. Including the citizens of Ukraine themselves.

      Moreover, the very same Shukhevych seems to be broadcasting- Our power should be scary ..... if to build a nation two thirds of the population must be destroyed, we will do it. Well, finally, they do .... death to the curds. And the hutskrajniki quietly reproach and ... curse Putin - why don’t you release the wines from the evil master ?!
      1. Strips
        Strips 17 December 2017 16: 51 New
        +1
        Quote: avt
        Newspaper.vru read ... okay, but to cite and quote - do not respect yourself. Well, at least before giving this quote-book, didn’t want to think? Where did the refugees from Syria come from in Russia?


        If you noticed that you did not unfortunately, the newspaper refers to Rosstat data.
        And it is true that they have bent with Syria, but the rest is quite:

        Here are quotes from there:

        According to estimates, the resident population of the Russian Federation as of October 1, 2017 amounted to 146,9 million people. January-September 2017 the number of residents of Russia increased by 50,0 thousand people, or 0,03% (for the same period of the previous year, an increase in the population by 214,6 thousand people, or 0,15%, was also observed).
        Natural population decline in January-September 2017 amounted to (-106,2) thousand people, in the corresponding period of 2016. There was a natural population growth of 18,2 thousand people. Migration growth fully offset the numerical losses of the population and exceeded them by 47,1%.


        In the whole country in January-September 2017 the number of deaths exceeded the number of births by 8,3% (in January-September 2016 the number of births exceeded the number of deaths by 1,3%), in 17 constituent entities of the Russian Federation this excess was 1,5-1,8 times.


        The largest reduction in migration growth in January-September 2017 compared to the same period in 2016. observed in population exchanges with Ukraine, the Republic of Moldova, Azerbaijan and Kazakhstan.
        Migration growth in 2016 with the Democratic People's Republic of Korea, since March 2017. replaced by outflow of the population.
        4,7 times the migration growth increased due to the exchange of population with Belarus, 3,0 times - with the Syrian Arab Republic, 2,7 times with Afghanistan, 1,7 times with Vietnam and Turkmenistan, 1,4 times with Kyrgyzstan, 1,2 times with Tajikistan.





        Here is a direct link. hi

        http://www.gks.ru/bgd/free/b17_00/IssWWW.exe/Stg/
        dk10 / 8-0.doc

        If that gks.ru is the official site of Rosstat.
        1. bk316
          bk316 18 December 2017 19: 00 New
          +2
          http://www.gks.ru/bgd/free/b17_00/IssWWW.exe/Stg/
          dk10 / 8-0.doc

          What is this link, why in the middle of the file?
          Phishing little or just spreading viruses?
          The case is jurisdictional.
  8. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 17 December 2017 09: 41 New
    +2
    Calculation of the consumption of bread. At present, less than 30 million people live in Ukraine on this indicator. Are the rest on departure? Well, yes, in Russia, 4 million, in Poland yet, well, in other places, on the little things ...
  9. Sergey53
    Sergey53 17 December 2017 09: 52 New
    +2
    The lads plunged into our 90s. And it will be difficult for them to get out of them.
    1. Kot_Kuzya
      Kot_Kuzya 18 December 2017 01: 39 New
      0
      And they already will not come out. The point of no return was passed in February 2014. Ukraine has completely lost its independence, industry has been destroyed, and the country has already become an analogue of Romania and Bulgaria. They will survive only at the expense of agriculture, but you will not get rich on it.
  10. andrej-shironov
    andrej-shironov 17 December 2017 09: 52 New
    +4
    You might think the Russian population is growing at a Stakhanov pace! Well, in Ukraine, the oligarchs rule, and in Russia, why isn’t it growing? Maybe from the fact that comprador power also steers? Looking at the facts, I can only make such a conclusion!
    1. ando_bor
      ando_bor 17 December 2017 10: 11 New
      0
      Quote: andrej-shironov
      Well, the oligarchs rule in Ukraine,


      They are not ruled by oligarchs, Americans are ruled by oligarchs, there are oligarchs in Russia, and on the whole they do not differ,
      but still there is a difference - in Ukraine, who will not fall under America will not be an oligarch, and in Russia, who will not.
      1. andrej-shironov
        andrej-shironov 17 December 2017 10: 14 New
        +2
        Dear Ando Bor! I do not think that the oligarchs use the criterion to lie / not lie. In the best case, they think it’s profitable / not profitable to think in terms of criteria, but from here everything else is already.
    2. Sling cutter
      Sling cutter 17 December 2017 17: 26 New
      +2
      Quote: andrej-shironov
      You might think the Russian population is growing at a Stakhanov pace!

      I’ll make a repost
      Are you sure that the census will again not be stamped like it was in 2010?
      In fact, everything is simple! We take the census of the Soviet census of 1989, 147 mln. 400 thousand people. We take for 2010-October 14, 2010, the resident population of the Russian Federation amounted to 142,9 million people. Further, we “believe” the officer in the sources: According to the Rosstat operational data as of July 1, 2017: according to estimates, the resident population of the Russian Federation amounted to 146,8 million people.
      Do you believe in that nonsense that in the middle of the RSFSR, we are not fighting for only 600 thousand people?
      taking into account the fact that from the 92nd to the 2006th
      we lost an average of 800 thousand per year (birth rate - mortality) we do not take emigrants! (about 200-300 thousand per year)
      Those. over 14 years, about 10 million people !!!!!!!!
      Further, from 2006 to 2010 we lose another 1,5 million !!!! Total = 11,5 mil. Man !!!!
      Do you catch the point? About 11 million "dead souls" do not fight with official statistics !!! Gogol with his "poem" and Chichikov just smokes!
      and now the main thing is, given the positive migration growth in 2011, the population grew by 160.000 people.
      I hope you understand everything!
      There are "dead souls" who can "vote" if anything, there is a migration increase .., but there is a "vulture" in the 2010 census!
      Quote: andrej-shironov
      Maybe from the fact that comprador power also steers? Looking at the facts, I can only make such a conclusion!

      We differ from Ukraine only in the fact that we have hydrocarbons, the scale of theft and passivity of the population.
      Kakly at least tried to change something ............
      1. MOSKVITYANIN
        MOSKVITYANIN 17 December 2017 22: 21 New
        +2
        Stroporez We differ from Ukraine only in the fact that we have hydrocarbons, the scale of theft and passivity of the population.

        Go repent to the "poor" Ukrainians, maybe they will give the order of the stoop or rubber gingerbread .....
        Kakly at least tried to change something ............

        Try it and you, I think I’ll manage with a fishing forest with two small pieces of wood around the edges so that you won’t be drawn to anything more ...
        1. Sling cutter
          Sling cutter 18 December 2017 13: 21 New
          +1
          Quote: MOSKVITYANIN
          I think

          amusingly lol
          Quote: MOSKVITYANIN
          I’ll manage a fishing forest with two pieces of wood around the edges so that you won’t be drawn to anything more ...

          but I don’t need "stray" for you yes soldier
          1. MOSKVITYANIN
            MOSKVITYANIN 19 December 2017 20: 58 New
            0
            Quote: Stroporez

            but I don’t need "stray" for you yes soldier

            Meet me at the barricades, if that or at your home, gee ....
            1. Sling cutter
              Sling cutter 19 December 2017 23: 55 New
              +2
              Quote: MOSKVITYANIN
              Meet me at the barricades, if that or at your home, gee ....

              Why is the house morale? request
              Rides wounded Budyonny
              On a tearful elephant
              Behind - the tanks of the first horse
              With images on the armor ...
              1. MOSKVITYANIN
                MOSKVITYANIN 20 December 2017 00: 00 New
                0
                Quote: Stroporez

                Why is the house morale? request
                Rides wounded Budyonny
                On a tearful elephant
                Behind - the tanks of the first horse
                With images on the armor ...

                A good rhyme, of course it smacks of blasphemy, but you are forgiven the Communists ....
                1. Sling cutter
                  Sling cutter 20 December 2017 01: 09 New
                  +1
                  Quote: MOSKVITYANIN
                  A good rhyme, of course it smacks of blasphemy, but you are forgiven the Communists ....

                  I’m more than sure that even if you nail N2 on your forehead with nails, your cerebellum will not be found at all from a distance of 300 good soldier
                  1. MOSKVITYANIN
                    MOSKVITYANIN 20 December 2017 07: 31 New
                    0
                    Quote: Stroporez
                    Quote: MOSKVITYANIN
                    A good rhyme, of course it smacks of blasphemy, but you are forgiven the Communists ....

                    I’m more than sure that even if you nail N2 on your forehead with nails, your cerebellum will not be found at all from a distance of 300 good soldier

                    Those. if I hate communists who have forgotten the roots of the revolution, then I’m a monarchist ...?
                    Not at all. Tsarism no less mocked my people than your beloved communists ....
      2. Filxnumx
        Filxnumx 17 December 2017 23: 01 New
        +1
        tried and got what? They used them as a herd, extras, but they didn’t really decide again
      3. Rimlianin
        Rimlianin 18 December 2017 02: 46 New
        +1
        We are no different at all. I mean mentally. And on the bill to change, so it is not tans with us. Just as long as people have something to lose, there is something to be afraid of. But incomes are falling and, accordingly, the boiling point is approaching. This can only be avoided by changing the oligarchic course to a socially oriented one. But apparently GDP, DAM, Chubais and the company are not capable of this.
        1. bk316
          bk316 18 December 2017 19: 02 New
          +2
          But incomes are falling and, accordingly, the boiling point is approaching.

          Dream, dream, if not for 404, maybe, and even that is unlikely.
          And so all you hrenushki.
  11. vfqjh
    vfqjh 17 December 2017 10: 04 New
    +1
    And they have the extinction of a nation in the anthem, but they don’t understand this !!!
  12. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 17 December 2017 10: 06 New
    +2
    At that pace the day is not far when a couple of the remaining millions will sadly drag out: “Ukraine hasn’t died yet ...” on the ruins of a once rich country and under an American orchestra.
  13. uporov65
    uporov65 17 December 2017 10: 33 New
    0
    It’s not necessary to fight and jump, but to do business smile
  14. Krasnyiy komissar
    Krasnyiy komissar 17 December 2017 10: 39 New
    +3
    Losses of 404 during the years of "independence" significantly exceeded those during the Second World War !!! These degenerates were able to put more people into the grave with "European" salaries than the Germans destroyed with shells and bombs! Aerobatics on the genocide of the population, even no stoves were required (gas is expensive) ...
    An example of European dill is a lesson for Russia. The horses completely fell under the staff and now die in batches in the atom, because of the "free" medicine, as a result of the "shortening of the rain of life." Russia survived all these processes in the 90s during the reign of Boris Sin, and the consequences of the 90s will go on for more than a decade. If you are offered a choice between war and surrender, then, without a doubt, choose the first option. I’ll explain for those especially gifted: the economic losses from the collapse of the USSR exceed those due to the Second World War (-50% of the economy versus 30% then), and demographic losses cannot even be accurately calculated (those who died prematurely, left and were unborn at all). In the course of a nuclear war, the country's losses will be even greater, but there is a significant point - our enemy will be completely destroyed as an economic unit and FOREVER will lose the chance to regain world domination.
  15. Zomanus
    Zomanus 17 December 2017 11: 22 New
    +1
    Our "blessed" 90 ...
    We all went through it, though I was a child at that time,
    but something was remembered, yes.
    Well, on the other hand, why are there many people for an agrarian power?
    To carry anti-Russian nonsense, hundreds of service personnel are enough.
  16. Makarov
    Makarov 17 December 2017 11: 23 New
    +1
    Nevertheless, it seems to me that the Ministry of Social Policy does not even understand the reasons for the population decline. Being now in Melbourne, I expect with horror only one thing: returning to that diarrhea which is misunderstood as Ukraine .... So I’m tour, and if you go here to live you can go back either in handcuffs or in a coffin ...
    1. Fedorov
      Fedorov 17 December 2017 12: 04 New
      +1
      It’s immediately obvious that they didn’t grow in the USSR; Or is the translator wrong?
      Tourist in the coffin? He rejoiced a lot about himself. Let the diamond hand look., Or the process with Ulyukaev.
      1. Makarov
        Makarov 17 December 2017 17: 18 New
        +1
        For those who are in the tank: in my opinion, the Ministry of Social Policy of Ukraine is mistaken in considering the low birth rate to be the reason for the population decline. Most likely this is due to a low standard of living and a general flight of the population outside the country. Now in Melbourne I came to the country to see and go to the MUSE concert. Already on Wednesday, I am expecting a dip in the fetid bastard, which is called Ukraine. Seeing this "other world", I perfectly understand the reasons why those, including those in Australia, traveling for permanent residence, will return back only in a coffin or by force ... is that clear? Or is the translator wrong?
        1. Antares
          Antares 17 December 2017 23: 53 New
          0
          Quote: Makarov
          Already on Wednesday, I am expecting a dip in the fetid bastard, which is called Ukraine. Seeing this "other world", I perfectly understand the reasons why those, including those in Australia, traveling for permanent residence, will return back only in a coffin or by force ... is that clear? Or is the translator wrong?

          what a bad situation in the country was not is no reason to call it that. A bunch of places in the world are much better and blessed countries, there is always something better and worse.
          Everyone decides for himself.
          I know many friends who have left, but they visit the country, their parents (and in Ukraine, then in the Russian Federation) and so do not speak out.
          1. Makarov
            Makarov 19 December 2017 17: 24 New
            0
            Yes ... they don’t speak in person. But only few people return this 1. And secondly, I also have many friends all over the world who have left and the words "ass" in relation to Ukraine if it doesn’t openly sound from implied ... if you take a sober look at the situation around in Ukraine, it’s difficult to find other words ... regardless of the place of residence ... personally to me ...
  17. Non liberoid Russian
    Non liberoid Russian 17 December 2017 12: 03 New
    +1
    but somehow it’s already deeply do not care what’s happening among our smaller brothers ... more worried about their own country ... and these ... let them jump and scream, all the same, 404 is interesting only as a territory, and that’s not all .. .and human resources and industry - in such a way as it may, only Africans can be interested
  18. Lelek
    Lelek 17 December 2017 12: 13 New
    +2
    (There are many reasons for this. Including, among them are the armed conflict in the Donbass, low incomes of parents, and social benefits that do not correspond to today.
    If you do not have earnings, or the husband does not provide for a family, then it is very difficult. State payments are not enough even for diapers themselves,
    Ukrainians say.)

    When the Maidans were organized with chants and jumpers, the head was completely absent. When they started shooting at their brothers in the Donbass, all human was stolen. When they gathered in orderly rows with black-red banners and portraits of Hitler’s accomplices to go to “Europe” for money requested from the West, they thought: “Here it is, it’s free wealth, it’s independence from the cursed neighbors ...” So they got it, now slurp a full cook. And this is not the limit of your “overpower”, completely black days ahead. So download while your legs hold.
    1. Antares
      Antares 17 December 2017 23: 56 New
      +1
      Quote: Lelek
      If you do not have earnings, or the husband does not provide for the family, it is very difficult. Government payments are not enough even for the diapers themselves,
      Ukrainian say

      there 42 thousand UAH for 3 years (immediately 10 000 then 860 per month)
      for each child
      large families (3 children) receive separately
      so 860 UAH is about 5 packs of diapers (such as Joy or Slip and Play)
      generally enough only for diapers and diapers
  19. Maalkavianin
    Maalkavianin 17 December 2017 12: 29 New
    0
    Yes, we have the same thing. Found a good job - you can think about the family and the birth of a child. Did not find - it means not fate.
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  20. oldzek
    oldzek 17 December 2017 12: 45 New
    +1
    you have a declining population? it doesn’t matter. you are in Europe. ask Brussels and you will get refugees from Africa. according to the principle: God be with you, that we do not care.
  21. Normal ok
    Normal ok 17 December 2017 13: 31 New
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    It seems like smart people gathered on the site. Why take the word politicians?
    We look at the rating of the countries of the world in terms of population growth over the past year:
    http://gtmarket.ru/ratings/population-growth-rate
    / info
    Results: Russia at 183 place with a negative growth rate. Belarus at 191 place, with a negative indicator. Ukraine at 194 place, with a negative indicator.
    And so, the problem is general, the difference is insignificant. What are you happy about? That the neighbor’s cow suffered longer before death ?!
    1. Antares
      Antares 17 December 2017 23: 59 New
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      Quote: Normal ok
      the problem is general, the difference is insignificant. What are you happy about? That the neighbor’s cow suffered longer before death ?!

      So this is Ukraine! Well it was created in order to distract from Russia. Only there things happen that in the Russian Federation never happen and will not happen. So we look at Ukraine, we are glad that in the Russian Federation. Compare, lucky. You can’t change, otherwise Maidan ...
    2. LeonidL
      LeonidL 18 December 2017 02: 56 New
      +1
      Do not particularly trust the "ratings" - see who and how they are made up. A simple example is that the people of Zarobitch are dumping Russia into the unfortunate and poor Russia that eats salty hedgehogs, but not vice versa. New enterprises are being commissioned in Russia, but in Ukraine I have seen only one ceremonial event with Potroshenko. Massively sanctioned products are being thrown across the Russian border - there is demand, which means there is consumption. and car purchases in Russia do not fall stubbornly ... Mind cannot be measured by Russia, common arshin ... and so on. And the Russian economy has already been "torn apart" by one ripper ...
  22. armourer
    armourer 17 December 2017 15: 44 New
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    Quote: Fedorov
    Plus I’ll leave, To Siberia, to my Homeland. A brother on the Yamal Peninsula will help. Ugh to Ukraine, got it all.

    We deny our land, this is betrayal. Yes, it is battered, plundered, fooled. But there live such people as in Russia. Guys it's time to turn on the brain!
    1. Kot_Kuzya
      Kot_Kuzya 17 December 2017 16: 35 New
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      Quote: armourer
      Quote: Fedorov
      Plus I’ll leave, To Siberia, to my Homeland. A brother on the Yamal Peninsula will help. Ugh to Ukraine, got it all.

      We deny our land, this is betrayal. Yes, it is battered, plundered, fooled. But there live such people as in Russia. Guys it's time to turn on the brain!

      For you, Bendera are the same "people" as you yourself? That is, you yourself are a murderer, a rapist and a robber?
  23. Kot_Kuzya
    Kot_Kuzya 17 December 2017 16: 29 New
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    So that's great! Ukrainians are our enemies! And the less enemies there are, the better! The fewer pan-jockey horses, the better!
  24. Star
    Star 17 December 2017 18: 23 New
    +1
    Rather, the bulk of the people moved to Russia.
    As always....
  25. armourer
    armourer 17 December 2017 20: 33 New
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    Quote: Kot_Kuzya
    So that's great! Ukrainians are our enemies! And the less enemies there are, the better! The fewer pan-jockey horses, the better!

    Your opinion is distorted KOTU KUZYA! Dialogue continue no more sense
  26. Rimlianin
    Rimlianin 18 December 2017 02: 50 New
    +2
    I’m wondering who writes such articles about Ukraine, do they not understand that Russia is not much better? That Russia has been dying out for a year now, that in addition to St. Petersburg and Moscow time, the whole country survives by 15-20 thousand rubles?
    1. LeonidL
      LeonidL 18 December 2017 02: 55 New
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      Do not lie, good lord! First of all, because 15-20 thousand in the outback is money, but no one lives in Moscow and St. Petersburg for this. Travel to the province - no one dies of hunger and cold. A beautiful illustration, by the way, the homeless - they practically disappeared as a class and new ones do not appear.
      1. Rimlianin
        Rimlianin 18 December 2017 05: 13 New
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        I do not need to come to the province. I live here. Siberian village of 15 thousand people. A salary of 15 thousand is considered acceptable in our country. Not because it’s enough, but because it’s better not to find it. And even such a job just does not get it. All shortened, many work on minimum wage full time. And I do not understand why it is easier to live a penny in the province? Do we have cheaper products, gasoline, clothes, a communal apartment? It’s you, dear, that you probably weren’t in the Russian province, and you don’t know how people survive here for a penny. By the way, you will not see expensive cars here. People still ride on sixes and even Muscovites. So go down to the ground and finally stop watching Channel One.
        1. Rey_ka
          Rey_ka 18 December 2017 08: 55 New
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          Well, give you 100 thousand a month. You immediately run away to Moscow! And let me remind you that it’s not socialism for a long time who prevents us from coming to the employer the damned capitalist and asking for more?
    2. bk316
      bk316 18 December 2017 19: 06 New
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      That Russia has been dying out for a year now, that in addition to St. Petersburg and Moscow time, the whole country survives by 15-20 thousand rubles?

      DO NOT lie about your place of residence.
      Better just come to Russia, just do not choke with envy ....
  27. LeonidL
    LeonidL 18 December 2017 02: 53 New
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    Download on, pan-head! ... A bright European future lies ahead ... at the horizon level.