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DNR: APU underestimate the number of losses in the Donbass

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Ukrainian security officials underestimate the number of casualties in the Donbas, spokesman for the operational command of the Donetsk People's Republic Edward Basurin told reporters.


He noted that, according to the DPR intelligence, in November and December the number of irretrievable losses of the Ukrainian army in the Donbas was at least 56 people.

DNR: APU underestimate the number of losses in the Donbass


At the same time, in official reports of the press center of the headquarters of ATO, the number of dead today for November-December is 23 military personnel, which is more than two times underestimated relative to real numbers
- said Basurin.

In early December, he said that in the villages of Gladosovo and Metalist, 17 of Ukrainian security officials were killed and 11 were injured. Moreover, according to Basurin, all the losses of the Ukrainian Armed Forces are solely due to internal contradictions.

Army DNI does not even try to interfere
- he said.

We remind you that earlier Ukrainian volunteers removed 49 bodies of dead Ukrainian security officials from the armed conflict zone.
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  1. 210ox
    210ox 16 December 2017 20: 37
    +6
    This is all predictable. They have everything in order .. After several days of fierce battles, several "cyborgs" were poisoned with a vodka .. am
    1. Going
      Going 16 December 2017 20: 47
      10
      Yeah, fat choked.
      1. Logall
        Logall 16 December 2017 21: 25
        +9
        Quote: Going
        Aha

        Cookers, Donetsk airport
        Quote: Going
        choked

        !
        1. Going
          Going 16 December 2017 21: 32
          10
          Alexander, do not care than just perish.
      2. Jedi
        Jedi 16 December 2017 21: 27
        +7
        Victor, Dima - good evening! hi And the blood of these creatures did not choke? And the fact that the losses are underestimated is understandable: already there are not enough people who want to put their heads in mugs for cowards.
        1. Going
          Going 16 December 2017 21: 31
          +7
          Greetings Maxim! hi , they were fed, exchanged for new ones and now they will set them up.
          1. Jedi
            Jedi 16 December 2017 21: 33
            +7
            Well, yes, the new action series "Going to Death - Greet You, O Pig!" negative fool
            1. Going
              Going 16 December 2017 21: 38
              +4
              Everyone went crazy, the world turned into a slaughterhouse and the end is not visible at all.
              1. Jedi
                Jedi 16 December 2017 21: 49
                +4
                And it will not be visible until the US dictates the conditions. You can make a conclusion yourself. wink
                1. Going
                  Going 16 December 2017 21: 56
                  +4
                  We talked many times until we find a way to pinch the tentacles of the United States, we will not squeeze them, especially Assad.
                  1. Jedi
                    Jedi 16 December 2017 22: 04
                    +4
                    That's right, buddy.
                    1. Going
                      Going 16 December 2017 22: 15
                      +4
                      And this tangle becomes the center of relations between the USA and Russia.
                      1. Jedi
                        Jedi 16 December 2017 22: 20
                        +4
                        The most interesting thing is that both parties know the goals of the opponent, but they pretend that they just went out for a walk. yes
                2. Going
                  Going 16 December 2017 23: 01
                  +4
                  Quote: Jedi
                  The most interesting thing is that both parties know the goals of the opponent, but they pretend that they just went out for a walk. yes

                  There is political fuss, and people continue to suffer.
        2. Going
          Going 16 December 2017 22: 24
          +4
          Quote: Jedi
          The most interesting thing is that both parties know the goals of the opponent, but they pretend that they just went out for a walk. yes

          Yes, we returned to the end of the 70s, the beginning of the 80s of the last century.
          1. Jedi
            Jedi 16 December 2017 22: 30
            +4
            We didn’t want this, mind you ... No.
            1. Going
              Going 16 December 2017 22: 35
              +4
              Of course not us, it's striped back there and trying to butt with those technologies.
              1. Jedi
                Jedi 16 December 2017 22: 40
                +4
                Yesterday, in a conversation with our mutual acquaintance, Yegorovich said: in this war, the United States will definitely not be able to claim victory. wink
                1. Going
                  Going 16 December 2017 22: 46
                  +4
                  It depends on what kind of audience, the world in the person of the USA is fighting hard against us, we found its weakness in the form of RT, they understood it and now we butt on the Internet.
                  1. Jedi
                    Jedi 16 December 2017 22: 49
                    +4
                    This is so, but I had in mind something else: in the Russia-US confrontation, they certainly will not be able to claim victory. laughing
                    1. Going
                      Going 16 December 2017 23: 02
                      +4
                      Their gut is thin and they understand it.
    2. Blombirus
      Blombirus 16 December 2017 21: 33
      +2
      Any army in any war underestimates its own losses. This info is secret and is not subject to publicity. So, you can safely multiply by three dill list for the press. But knowing Kakelov, you can multiply by five, closer to the truth.
  2. Popovich
    Popovich 16 December 2017 20: 41
    +2
    Ghouls must be considered since 2014 ... somewhere like this for example = 62437.
    1. Going
      Going 16 December 2017 20: 47
      +7
      Where did you get such exact numbers?
    2. domnich
      domnich 16 December 2017 20: 58
      +5
      Tried to track this topic. The number came out smaller, but the order is the same. Of the three categories of “victims”: 1) APU + national battalions, 2) militias and 3) civilians, the first category suffered the most severe losses.
      At the same time, one must take into account the tendency of the Armed Forces to fall into the "boilers", the ongoing armed conflicts between the Armed Forces and the National Bats, the initial and constant attempts to hide the true losses in the Armed Forces, including mass graves of those killed in the war zone and their transfer to the category of deserters.
      1. cniza
        cniza 16 December 2017 21: 01
        +3
        Be that as it may, the numbers are disastrous and this is not the limit.
        1. Logall
          Logall 16 December 2017 21: 28
          +7
          Vitya, hi , this is just the beginning!
          A new beginning, which has staggered everyone, a conflict!
          1. cniza
            cniza 16 December 2017 21: 35
            +5
            Alexander! hi people are such cattle that they get used to everything, I'm sorry this is a cruel reality and we should disentangle it.
      2. Buffet
        Buffet 16 December 2017 22: 45
        +1
        For example, LDNR does not consider the loss of volunteers. Therefore, the loss of their 1-2 person per day.
        1. Popovich
          Popovich 16 December 2017 23: 55
          +2
          such "all-knowing" will come out ...
      3. The leader of the Redskins
        The leader of the Redskins 16 December 2017 23: 54
        0
        So you, my friend, according to Basurin, apparently tracked. Then add a couple more tens of thousands ...
  3. dr.star75
    dr.star75 16 December 2017 20: 53
    +4
    Basurin is certainly a good man, but he has already attacked Ukrainians about fifty times
    1. iliitchitch
      iliitchitch 16 December 2017 22: 04
      +1
      Quote: dr.star75
      Basurin is certainly a good man, but he has already attacked Ukrainians about fifty times

      So that's why it's good. Why is he breaking into a khatynka and taking the last fat from a dishonest Ukrainians? Not . Or like, "We Germans, in fact, is this all a damn adik?" . Yes, these went with adik, and Ukrainians with their maidans and parasites. Didn’t try to work, hollowers?
  4. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 16 December 2017 21: 37
    +2
    Creepy numbers. And how does "dill" write off the dead? How dither, missing or non-combat losses? Although what to ask. The country is based on lies ... What else to wait!
    1. Going
      Going 16 December 2017 23: 14
      +5
      They themselves do not yet know how to imagine it, but it is a tragedy, a tragedy of our peoples, we have allowed the United States to get into our affairs and force to kill our brothers.
  5. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 16 December 2017 21: 37
    0
    Creepy numbers. And how does "dill" write off the dead? How dither, missing or non-combat losses? Although what to ask. The country is based on lies ... What else to wait!
  6. Fedorov
    Fedorov 16 December 2017 22: 11
    +3
    The numbers are much shorter, the syllable is difficult to line. I don’t know now, but a year ago - no one counted them. The street was renamed, for example, he died in Afghanistan, and now it is not known why.
  7. Terenin
    Terenin 16 December 2017 22: 39
    +5
    To the question of the staff clerk: "Your Excellency, how many Turks should be indicated as killed?", - A. Suvorov he answered this way: "Why should they, Basurman, feel sorry, write more!"
  8. Jerk
    Jerk 16 December 2017 22: 44
    +2
    Also news to me. Remember how the chief prosecutor told them about 16 thousand deserters with weapons? This is from the 100 thousandth group in the Donbas, as they then said, that is, in fact - every seventh ... It’s already clear how they’ll
  9. Antares
    Antares 16 December 2017 22: 52
    +1
    Moreover, according to Basurin, all losses of the Armed Forces are solely due to internal contradictions.

    the caliber of "internal contradictions" somewhere reaches 120 mm? request
    Previously, he only caused a smile, the local Tymchuk. Now there is no emotion - he is not the local Tymchuk, he is his brother. Even cooler.
    As for the understatement. As if ORDILO honestly always writes how many people died? The USA honestly wrote to the media how many losses? The Russian Federation wrote honestly how many losses?
    When the enemy writes about the losses of the enemy, I always remember Suvorov and Friedrich. The second, when he recorded 70% of the Russian army in losses, and the first with a catch phrase
    “Your Excellency, how many Turks should be indicated as murdered?”, Suvorov replied: “Why should they, Basurman, be sorry, write more!”

    It is necessary to take into account that the countries conducting the war in every way underestimate their losses and widely overestimate the losses of the enemy. This is the information front of the war and Basurin is doing this.
    1. Sergey Medvedev
      Sergey Medvedev 17 December 2017 00: 09
      +1
      Quote: Antares
      “Your Excellency, how many Turks should be indicated as murdered?”, Suvorov replied: “Why should they, Basurman, be sorry, write more!”

      These are inventions of liberals. The information war, however. Even our history is at war. Who is who, and Suvorov killed the Turks the most. One battle at Rymnik is worth it.
  10. akims
    akims 16 December 2017 23: 12
    0
    Revised Braveheart.
    Conclusion: pissed off!
    I mean: they would be so ....
  11. The leader of the Redskins
    The leader of the Redskins 16 December 2017 23: 50
    0
    I wish we could wait for Basurin to tell the truth when he didn’t ...
    1. Blombirus
      Blombirus 17 December 2017 00: 13
      +2
      Quote: Leader of the Redskins
      I wish we could wait for Basurin to tell the truth when he didn’t ...

      Basurin has such a position to speak. And what to say, he does not decide. To the truth, many more years to live. But I have no doubt that the leader in the place of Basurin would have slashed the truth; For the sake of a red word, I would not regret my father! Folk wisdom says: the word is silver, silence is gold!
  12. LeonidL
    LeonidL 17 December 2017 01: 28
    0
    Do not even try to intervene the army of the DNI ???? Very sorry. It turns out that the DPR army is waiting for the Nazis to shoot themselves? Naive and stupid.
  13. mih_sergeev92
    mih_sergeev92 17 December 2017 01: 44
    +1
    Despite the fact that this is a military review, still war is bad, and when people die, it’s also bad. It is perfectly understandable that those who died, by and large, are cannon fodder, on the one hand, on the other hand, and real villains skim the cream, receive rewards and earn money from all this.
    Until a person begins to value life more than money, wars will not end.
    A happy comment on the death of the soldiers I think is inappropriate.
  14. slavaseven
    slavaseven 17 December 2017 10: 30
    0
    arithmetic of the army. The number of killed opponents is multiplied by 3. The number of their losses is divided by two. Missing to loss does not apply
    1. Popovich
      Popovich 17 December 2017 10: 39
      0
      Quote: slavaseven
      arithmetic of the army.