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OSCE: Russia intends to withdraw its officers from the JCCC

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Russia has notified Ukraine of its intention to withdraw its officers from the Joint Control and Coordination Center (JCCC) for the breeding of forces and assets on the demarcation line, the OSCE Special Monitoring Mission (SMM) in the Donbass reports.


On December 14, a representative of the Armed Forces of Ukraine at the Joint Control and Co-ordination Center at the JCCC, located in the Soledar-controlled government (79 km north of Donetsk), handed the SMM a letter from the Russian Ministry of Defense informing them that Ukrainian officers of their Armed Forces from the JCCC
- stated in the mission report for December 14.

OSCE: Russia intends to withdraw its officers from the JCCC


Earlier this week, the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation announced a significant complication of the conditions for the presence in the territory of Ukraine of Russian officers from the JCCC.

It seems that the Ukrainian side, thus, deliberately tries to exclude Russian servicemen in the JCCC from the process of monitoring the implementation of the Minsk agreements in the south-east of Ukraine
- said the representative of the Ministry of Defense of Russia in the working group on security of the Tripartite Contact Group on the settlement of the conflict in the south-east of Ukraine, Colonel Andrei Korotkov told reporters in Moscow on December 13. According to the officer, "during the last months, the conditions of stay of the Russian officers from the JCCC on the territory of Ukraine by the efforts of the Ukrainian side have become much more complicated."

According to him, through the Trilateral Contact Group in Minsk, through the OSCE in Vienna and other channels, the Russian side has repeatedly conveyed information "about the unacceptable actions of the Ukrainian side", Interfax reports.
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  1. dr.star75
    dr.star75 16 December 2017 18: 36 New
    10
    And we also participated in this garbage?
    1. Puss in Boots
      Puss in Boots 16 December 2017 18: 45 New
      27
      along the way it smelled something not good laughing
      1. Going
        Going 16 December 2017 18: 48 New
        35
        Is it possible that we will begin to reconcile soon? My opinion, only after assuming the office of the President is May - June 2018.
        1. 210ox
          210ox 16 December 2017 18: 52 New
          25
          It's time to stop this bloody circus. Russian peacekeepers-Armed Forces of Russia ... Your way out!
          Quote: Going
          Is it possible that we will begin to reconcile soon? My opinion, only after assuming the office of the President is May - June 2018.
          1. Going
            Going 16 December 2017 18: 56 New
            13
            Until we razrulim with the United States could not do this, but it seems almost agreed.
            1. 210ox
              210ox 16 December 2017 19: 27 New
              +4
              All attention to Mishka .. More precisely, his reactions. Will this shot, but not finished sparrow, start haberdashery?
              Quote: Going
              Until we razrulim with the United States could not do this, but it seems almost agreed.
        2. Puss in Boots
          Puss in Boots 16 December 2017 18: 56 New
          14
          I completely agree, but I think April-May hi , only it is necessary to reconcile so that sparks from the eyes, so that for a long time they remember what this disgrace turns into !!! hi
          1. Going
            Going 16 December 2017 18: 58 New
            21
            Not just the sparks of their eyes, but for a long time they couldn’t sit down and worked standing up. lol
        3. den3080
          den3080 16 December 2017 19: 04 New
          10
          there will be nothing before the end of the World Cup
          1. Going
            Going 16 December 2017 19: 36 New
            11
            Yes, something I did not take into account, we will not risk it.
            1. Logall
              Logall 16 December 2017 19: 38 New
              10
              As always, the prestige of the state is more important than human lives!
              Victor, welcome!
              1. Going
                Going 16 December 2017 19: 46 New
                +8
                Greetings to Alexander! hi there is such a sin, but there’s also a practical calculation for the future, not to create unnecessary problems, which also count in the lives of people.
            2. sabakina
              sabakina 16 December 2017 19: 51 New
              +9
              Mishiko taught him how to do it at the opening of the Olympics, so we'll see.
              1. Going
                Going 16 December 2017 20: 00 New
                +6
                If only he would be allowed to steer this situation, he was in power there, and here he is in opposition.
              2. LSA57
                LSA57 16 December 2017 20: 05 New
                +6
                Quote: sabakina
                Mishiko taught how to do what’s possible at the opening of the Olympics,

                I just don’t understand one thing, why a lot of documents were collected for him and the case has not yet been referred to the international court. because he is a killer of peacekeepers, not to mention the civilians of Ossetia
                1. Going
                  Going 16 December 2017 20: 14 New
                  12
                  Because he is the son of a bitch, the most important killers in the world, but sooner or later they will merge him.
                2. Nikolai Grek
                  Nikolai Grek 16 December 2017 20: 51 New
                  +7
                  Quote: LSA57
                  Quote: sabakina
                  Mishiko taught how to do what’s possible at the opening of the Olympics,

                  I just don’t understand one thing, why a lot of documents were collected for him and the case has not yet been referred to the international court. because he is a killer of peacekeepers, not to mention the civilians of Ossetia

                  because they want to stir up in the courts against Russia and South Ossetia !!! negative negative negative

                  INTERNATIONAL CRIMINAL COURT UNDERSTANDS - GEORGIA BEAR RESPONSIBILITY FOR WHAT HAPPENED IN SOUTH OSSETIA. INVESTIGATION BEGINS
                  Georgia was pleased to hear the news that the International Criminal Court began investigating the events in South Ossetia in 2008. Tbilisi hopes through the ICC to accuse Russia of ethnic cleansing of Georgians, ignoring the arguments of the main injured party - South Ossetia. At the same time, even in Georgia they do not deny that former President Mikheil Saakashvili may be punished for what happened.
                  Recall that on the eve of January 27, the International Criminal Court officially launched an investigation of crimes committed during the armed conflict in South Ossetia in 2008. “The Chamber decided that there is good reason to believe that crimes falling under the jurisdiction of the ICC were committed in this situation in Georgia,” the text of the Hague court document says. The ICC also added that on 4 December last year, the Chamber of Judges received 6335 statements from both the victims of the conflict themselves and their representatives.
                  At the same time, Fatu Bensuda noted at a press conference: since the forces of South Ossetia, Russia and Georgia were involved in the 2008 conflict, all these parties could commit crimes. In particular, she explained: “As potential war crimes, the attacks of South Ossetian forces on Georgian peacekeepers and the Georgian military on Russian peacekeepers can be considered.”
                  We decided to forget about South Ossetia
                  The prosecutor also paid great attention to the issue of “expelling the majority of Georgians from South Ossetia” during the August war, which she also plans to investigate. According to her, we can talk about 15 thousand exiles. This is 75% of the number of Georgians who inhabited South Ossetia before the war, she stressed, adding that she plans to visit Moscow.
                  After meeting with Georgian Minister of Justice Teya Tsulukiani Fatou Bensuda promised "to investigate all war crimes, regardless of the nationality of those who committed them."

                  However, Moscow already noted suspicious notes in the rhetoric of the prosecutor. The Foreign Ministry expressed hope that “the judges, when considering the petition of the ICC prosecutor, will make a decision that would meet the principles of justice.”

                  Meanwhile, the agency admitted: “According to the conclusions of the ICC prosecutor, the targeted killings of South Ossetians will not be the subject of an international investigation, the prosecutor’s office also has doubts about the attacks on Russian peacekeeping troops. But the ICC investigators, in the framework of the initiated case, declare their readiness to investigate the actions of the South Ossetian militias against ethnic Georgians, as well as the Russian armed forces, which, according to the prosecutor’s office, “may have been accomplices” of these actions, ”the Foreign Ministry said.


                  https://news-front.info/2016/01/28/mezhdunarodnyj
                  -ugolovnyj-sud-ponimaet-gruziya-neset-otvetstvenn
                  ost-za-to-chto-proisxodilo-v-yuzhnoj-osetii-rassl
                  edovanie-nachalos /
            3. Monos
              Monos 16 December 2017 20: 16 New
              15
              Quote: Going
              Yes, something I did not take into account, we will not risk it.

              But dill will take a chance! Moreover, they will definitely do it. In two stages: for the elections and for the championship. This is where preparations are in progress.
              1. Going
                Going 16 December 2017 20: 21 New
                +5
                They are performers, although Petya "by sobriety" can break firewood.
          2. Nyrobsky
            Nyrobsky 16 December 2017 19: 49 New
            +2
            Quote: den3080
            there will be nothing before the end of the World Cup

            “Before” - probably not, but during the World Cup, it’s quite possible. Lovers mattresses to start their foul affairs during sporting events.
            1. Going
              Going 16 December 2017 20: 04 New
              +3
              You can expect from them at any moment, they have long coast and landmarks lost.
          3. Evgeniy667b
            Evgeniy667b 17 December 2017 19: 05 New
            0
            World Cup 18 is out of place at all, he will not give anything good, some problems, although someone raped and have it on this matter.
        4. tol100v
          tol100v 16 December 2017 19: 05 New
          +2
          Quote: Going
          this is May - June 2018.

          Not necessary! You can always make peace. And if you reconcile STRONGLY, it will not be very long!
        5. gerkost2012
          gerkost2012 16 December 2017 22: 01 New
          +1
          More precisely, after the end of the 2018 World Cup.
        6. The comment was deleted.
        7. Xnumx vis
          Xnumx vis 17 December 2017 17: 29 New
          0
          It is understood as compulsion to the world!
      2. LSA57
        LSA57 16 December 2017 18: 50 New
        +1
        Quote: Cat in Boots
        along the way it smelled something not good

        potential witnesses removed
        1. tol100v
          tol100v 16 December 2017 19: 07 New
          +1
          Quote: LSA57
          potential witnesses removed

          All witnesses in the government of Dill, and customers in the State Department!
          1. LSA57
            LSA57 16 December 2017 19: 13 New
            +3
            Quote: Tol100v
            All the witnesses in the government of Dill,

            these are not witnesses, these are future defendants
      3. Settlement Oparyshev
        Settlement Oparyshev 16 December 2017 23: 18 New
        0
        It's time for you to collect the sidor by the couch and wait for the team.
    2. siberalt
      siberalt 16 December 2017 20: 12 New
      +7
      Finally, they saved the officers from daily humiliation.
    3. Tusv
      Tusv 17 December 2017 09: 52 New
      0
      Quote: dr.star75
      And we also participated in this garbage?

      Az am hi Who wants to be in NATO there will be a permanent mess with the loss of territories am , which in translation means that WE, too, do not slurp cabbage soup
  2. avt
    avt 16 December 2017 18: 41 New
    10
    what Remove potential hostages ???
    1. antivirus
      antivirus 16 December 2017 18: 46 New
      +5
      leave and make room for the Shoigu fly swatter
      in the spring of 18 g it will be clear with SP2, and with other transits - railway, oil, cars, Moldova (as it will be).
      the coders are trying to quickly spoil the max, but on the contrary, to the certainty in domestic politics, we did not want to break.
      Has everything been decided in Russia?
    2. Going
      Going 16 December 2017 18: 49 New
      +5
      It is very similar and has not yet begun.
      1. MOSKVITYANIN
        MOSKVITYANIN 16 December 2017 19: 17 New
        +2
        Quote: Going
        It is very similar and has not yet begun.

        According to the old tradition, everything will begin either at the opening of the Olympic Games or in the course of their actions ....
        1. Going
          Going 16 December 2017 19: 37 New
          +5
          And there is Ch.M. on football.
  3. assa67
    assa67 16 December 2017 18: 41 New
    +6
    "an impression" ... that's diplomacy! they’d say so, they spread rot, they don’t give work ...... we’ll remove our from the CCS is a confirmation of the end of the Minsk agreements .....
    1. LSA57
      LSA57 16 December 2017 18: 52 New
      +1
      Quote: assa67
      remove our from the CCS is a confirmation of the end of the Minsk agreements ...

      so they have long come kirdyk
      1. assa67
        assa67 16 December 2017 19: 03 New
        +4
        this is Avakov’s opinion .... and the efforts of the mattress’s plenipotentiary ..... how do you decide to solve the problem? .. dill allow a big offensive, with the support of NATO aviation?
  4. Herculesic
    Herculesic 16 December 2017 18: 55 New
    +4
    Or maybe it's time to say honestly that Minsk consortiums were needed only by ukroin, and precisely for building up an armed group on the borders with the republics, for further intensifying military operations? ???
    1. assa67
      assa67 16 December 2017 19: 04 New
      +4
      Quote: assa67
      this is Avakov’s opinion .... and the efforts of the mattress’s plenipotentiary ..... how do you decide to solve the problem? .. dill allow a big offensive, with the support of NATO aviation?
  5. peta locksmith
    peta locksmith 16 December 2017 18: 59 New
    +4
    it is clear - our officers are removed from the line of fire
    08 08 2008 in Ukrainian variation
    1. tol100v
      tol100v 16 December 2017 19: 14 New
      0
      Quote: petka locksmith
      it is clear - our officers are removed from the line of fire
      08 08 2008 in Ukrainian variation

      Remember once and for all! Our officers do not leave!
      1. peta locksmith
        peta locksmith 16 December 2017 19: 19 New
        +3
        but the words were gone
        probably, there was just a need to take our officers out of attack - why deliberately risk their lives -
        it's just a tactical device
        and 08 08 2008 is mentioned as a reminder of the successful operation of Russian troops to force Georgia to peace
        1. Logall
          Logall 16 December 2017 19: 40 New
          +7
          Most likely, the Old got hold of the impending provocation ...
          1. Going
            Going 16 December 2017 19: 48 New
            +5
            Anything can be there.
  6. Masya masya
    Masya masya 16 December 2017 19: 01 New
    +7
    from the process of monitoring the implementation of the Minsk agreements in the south-east of Ukraine

    but why monitor there, if the Minsk agreements have not been implemented, and are not being implemented ...
    1. Lelek
      Lelek 16 December 2017 19: 16 New
      +5
      Quote: Masya Masya
      The Minsk agreements have not been implemented, and are not being implemented ...


      hi Marina. And they will not be executed, as Chugunkin directly and loudly declared on behalf of the Kiev authorities. But Western "guarantors" covered their ears with wax and continue to dance to the habanera called "sanctions against Russia" for failure to comply with these very Minsk agreements. Balancing act, however.
      1. Masya masya
        Masya masya 16 December 2017 19: 32 New
        +5
        Leo, howdy there! love
        Quote: Lelek
        Balancing, however

        there is also acrobatics with gutta perception ... wink
  7. tchoni
    tchoni 16 December 2017 19: 07 New
    +1
    Oh, I'm afraid the Ukrainian guys will be interrogated and the sovereign-ampyator will dot the and. The Russian peacekeeping contingent will simply enter the Donbas - and that’s it. Ukrainians, of course, will get some moral right to shout about occupation - but they do it anyway.
  8. Terenin
    Terenin 16 December 2017 19: 09 New
    +4
    Now then, without the Russians, the guys from the control and coordination center ... can do their reports without getting up off the couch repeat
  9. APASUS
    APASUS 16 December 2017 19: 16 New
    +1
    Poroshenko wants to exchange Ukraine for the sake of his millions, and here Saakashvili is breathing in the back of the head. Judging by everything, he likes the presidential chair and is not going to run away. Just once again he will throw Ukraine and Ukrainians!?
    1. Nikolai Grek
      Nikolai Grek 16 December 2017 20: 55 New
      +1
      Quote: APASUS
      Poroshenko wants to exchange Ukraine for the sake of its millions

      so millions of Ukrainians and do not mind !!! request request
      1. APASUS
        APASUS 17 December 2017 08: 23 New
        0
        Quote: Nikolai Grek
        Quote: APASUS
        Poroshenko wants to exchange Ukraine for the sake of its millions

        so millions of Ukrainians and do not mind !!! request request

        Against and even against, they were waiting for Europe, but they ended up in the Middle Ages!
  10. pvv113
    pvv113 16 December 2017 19: 18 New
    +9
    the conditions of stay on the territory of Ukraine of Russian officers from the JCCC by the efforts of the Ukrainian side were significantly complicated

    It is necessary in response to create similar conditions for Ukrainian demagogues on Russian television
    1. Going
      Going 16 December 2017 19: 38 New
      +8
      No, no, these let them say, so that the crap was visible. They work for us.
      1. pvv113
        pvv113 16 December 2017 19: 41 New
        +3
        If they create conditions, they will speak even more interestingly. laughing
        1. Going
          Going 16 December 2017 19: 48 New
          +4
          So I'm talking about it, especially when they talk.
          1. pvv113
            pvv113 16 December 2017 20: 00 New
            +2
            Well then let them sing, but I would tighten the grip
            1. Going
              Going 16 December 2017 20: 07 New
              +4
              It seems to me that they have all been seized for Faberge a long time ago, and whoever does not have them, then for the corresponding body.
      2. Puss in Boots
        Puss in Boots 16 December 2017 20: 10 New
        0
        this is not nonsense, but inciting hatred !! hi
      3. LSA57
        LSA57 16 December 2017 20: 14 New
        +4
        Quote: Going
        No, no, these let them say, so that the crap was visible. They work for us.

        and I said a long time ago, they’re inviting me for this. there is now one more takoooooooy freak appeared laughing one all put together laughing they laugh at him laughing
        1. Going
          Going 16 December 2017 20: 23 New
          +6
          We collect all, do nothing, just give them the rostrum everything ... it's a dream and a minimum of costs.
          1. Nikolai Grek
            Nikolai Grek 16 December 2017 20: 56 New
            +2
            Quote: Going
            We collect all, do nothing, just give them the rostrum everything ... it's a dream and a minimum of costs.

            wassat wassat good good good and I said a long time ago that with such characters our “propaganda” is not needed at all !!! wassat wassat lol lol lol good good good
            1. pvv113
              pvv113 16 December 2017 21: 09 New
              +2
              Hi Nikolay! I’m afraid that with such clowns all circuses will be closed
              1. Nikolai Grek
                Nikolai Grek 16 December 2017 21: 24 New
                +3
                Quote: pvv113
                Hi Nikolay! I’m afraid that with such clowns all circuses will be closed

                drinks drinks drinks hi circuses - for children .... flowers - for women lol lol lol and these - to the entire population of Russia, so that they look and know how to do nothing! wassat wassat laughing laughing laughing
        2. Smog
          Smog 16 December 2017 22: 09 New
          +4
          Quote: LSA57
          there is now one more takoooooooy weirdo appeared one all together worth

          Emperor Kovbasyuk?
          1. LSA57
            LSA57 16 December 2017 23: 01 New
            +2
            Quote: Smog
            Emperor Kovbasyuk?

            he is laughing
          2. pvv113
            pvv113 16 December 2017 23: 09 New
            +5
            Found about this weirdo
            After moving along the OUN line to Kiev, Rinat called himself a “political expert” and flashed several times in the local zomboyaschik, but his career did not grow together. He tried to study as a political scientist - it didn’t work either. Since December 2016, he was called the press secretary of VGO "Rukh zhistu ukrainsky movi", but it did not work there either. Singed alcohol and drugs did their job, Kovbasyuk was left without work and housing.
            In August 2017, Rinat posted a job search ad on WORK.ua. An ambitious homeless person, having lost touch with reality, strove for the posts of "political consultant, head of the election headquarters, journalist, television presenter."
            And then suddenly. Miracle! The announcement of the stubborn Natsik interested in television "aggressor country." The 28-year-old homeless was paid for the flight, hospitably provided a double room in the Ostankino hotel, washed, handed a used jacket and kindly offered constant earnings on federal channels (in particular, in the meeting place program on NTV). Sit, brother, scum Russia at the Russian expense and thank fate. Soon you will buy a hut in Moscow - Kovtun and other "experts" will not let you lie.
            https://tanya-mass.livejournal.com/4240517.html
      4. vik669
        vik669 17 December 2017 00: 50 New
        0
        Not everyone is so stupid to listen to those that work for you; everything has been clear for a long time except for the one you work for!
    2. LSA57
      LSA57 16 December 2017 20: 12 New
      +3
      Quote: pvv113
      It is necessary in response to create similar conditions for Ukrainian demagogues on Russian television

      one has already created
      1. Nikolai Grek
        Nikolai Grek 16 December 2017 20: 57 New
        +4
        Quote: LSA57
        Quote: pvv113
        It is necessary in response to create similar conditions for Ukrainian demagogues on Russian television

        one has already created

        this must show Svidamyu !!! Karasev in Hohland is quite popular !!! wink yes laughing laughing laughing
        1. Pancir026
          Pancir026 16 December 2017 21: 08 New
          0
          [ quote=Николай Грек]такое надо свидамью показывать!![/quote]
          Well, well ... the Svidomites created this demotivator, the quasi-patriots distribute it ... how do they differ from them?
          1. Nikolai Grek
            Nikolai Grek 16 December 2017 21: 26 New
            +1
            [quote=Pancir026][ quote=Николай Грек]такое надо свидамью показывать!![/quote]
            Well, well ... the Svidomites created this demotivator, the quasi-patriots distribute it ... how do they differ from them? [/ Quote]
            But is the original of this photo ??? what what
            1. LSA57
              LSA57 16 December 2017 22: 37 New
              +2
              Quote: Nikolai the Greek
              But is the original of this photo ???

              the one who made it must have
              1. poquello
                poquello 16 December 2017 22: 50 New
                +1
                Quote: LSA57
                Quote: Nikolai the Greek
                But is the original of this photo ???

                the one who made it must have

                Yes, it seems that they took photos, but consider breaking
                1. LSA57
                  LSA57 16 December 2017 23: 03 New
                  +3
                  Quote: poquello
                  Yes it seems that they took a picture,

                  Yes, it doesn’t. I'm certainly not an expert, but I looked carefully.
                  1. poquello
                    poquello 16 December 2017 23: 09 New
                    0
                    Quote: LSA57
                    Quote: poquello
                    Yes it seems that they took a picture,

                    Yes, it doesn’t. I'm certainly not an expert, but I looked carefully.

                    the two on the right have a halo on their heads, the quality is lousy and even drag it into the gimp for the sake of interest
                    1. LSA57
                      LSA57 16 December 2017 23: 22 New
                      +1
                      Quote: poquello
                      the two on the right have a halo on their heads,

                      which two are on the right? belay there are only three people. no halo request
                      1. poquello
                        poquello 17 December 2017 00: 14 New
                        0
                        Quote: LSA57
                        Quote: poquello
                        the two on the right have a halo on their heads,

                        which two are on the right? belay there are only three people. no halo request

                        two on the right is not three on the right - which is incomprehensible? hover the mouse over the picture in the browser, right key, “open image”, control plus until the picture stops increasing - I don't understand the thin dark outline by 2 mm around the heads for two reasons
        2. LSA57
          LSA57 16 December 2017 21: 15 New
          +1
          Quote: Nikolai the Greek
          Karasev in Hohland is quite popular !!!

          no one knows him there
          1. Nikolai Grek
            Nikolai Grek 16 December 2017 21: 27 New
            +3
            Quote: LSA57
            Quote: Nikolai the Greek
            Karasev in Hohland is quite popular !!!

            no one knows him there

            look ... in hohland he is a noble expert !!! wassat wassat wassat laughing laughing laughing
            1. LSA57
              LSA57 16 December 2017 22: 39 New
              +1
              Quote: Nikolai the Greek
              in hohland he is a noble expert !!!

              Well, if only in very, well, very, narrow circles laughing
        3. poquello
          poquello 16 December 2017 22: 47 New
          0
          Quote: Nikolai Grek
          Quote: LSA57
          Quote: pvv113
          It is necessary in response to create similar conditions for Ukrainian demagogues on Russian television

          one has already created

          this must show Svidamyu !!! Karasev in Hohland is quite popular !!! wink yes laughing laughing laughing

          did Zyu have any relatives from Ukraine?
          1. LSA57
            LSA57 16 December 2017 23: 06 New
            +2
            Quote: poquello
            and Zu’s relatives from Ukraine were, have

            Yes, probably everyone has one degree or another of kinship. well, at least for many. the people are one. the more huge part of urkaina was Russia
      2. pvv113
        pvv113 16 December 2017 21: 10 New
        +2
        I guess he got sick wink
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    3. Antares
      Antares 16 December 2017 23: 03 New
      +2
      Quote: pvv113
      It is necessary in response to create similar conditions for Ukrainian demagogues on Russian television

      workers of Russian channels?
      Yes, they have better conditions than the Russians. They play the role of "Ukrainians" for the Russians. For a very solid RFP.
      1. pvv113
        pvv113 16 December 2017 23: 11 New
        +2
        I noticed that these patriots are not eager for Ukraine wink
      2. LSA57
        LSA57 16 December 2017 23: 23 New
        +1
        Quote: Antares
        For a very solid RFP.

        up to a million rubles per month
  11. demo
    demo 16 December 2017 19: 19 New
    +1
    According to the officer, "over the past months, the conditions of stay in the territory of Ukraine of Russian officers from the JCCC have been significantly complicated by the efforts of the Ukrainian side."

    I think that we can expect, in the very near future, the development of a situation where, as a result of certain events, the conditions for the stay of Ukrainian officers will become more complicated. At best, pre-trial detention facilities. To clarify involvement. At worst -2.000 soil levels.
    This is a call.
    First.
  12. Reserve buildbat
    Reserve buildbat 16 December 2017 19: 23 New
    +2
    This mattress and achieve. There will be no Russians in the SCCC; everything will be fine and quiet. Destruction of the population of Donbass, even chemical, at least some kind of weapon. And with impunity. The OSCE did not see anything.
    1. LSA57
      LSA57 16 December 2017 20: 16 New
      +3
      Quote: Stroibat stock
      The OSCE did not see anything.

      little one
  13. bmv04636
    bmv04636 16 December 2017 19: 27 New
    +1
    Wagner guys see from Syria also come back
  14. Romanych.by
    Romanych.by 16 December 2017 19: 55 New
    +1
    According to the results of the OSCE’s actions, it’s clear that even the presence of representatives of the Russian Armed Forces in their composition did not prevent them from being on the demarcation line with their eyes wide shut. When did they all choke on their hypocrisy and hatred ?? And the saddest thing is that peaceful people still suffer and die the inhabitants ...
  15. Romanych.by
    Romanych.by 16 December 2017 19: 58 New
    +1
    Quote: Herkulesich
    Or maybe it's time to say honestly that Minsk consortiums were needed only by ukroin, and precisely for building up an armed group on the borders with the republics, for further intensifying military operations? ???

    I fully support your thought.
  16. Awaz
    Awaz 16 December 2017 20: 15 New
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    in this garbage, Russian officers must long cease to participate. They should be attributed better to the units of the Armed Forces of Lugansk and Donetsk. There will be more good and order.
  17. Antares
    Antares 16 December 2017 23: 14 New
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    Victor Grishin The representative of the Armed Forces of Ukraine at the Joint Center for Control and Coordination transmitted a letter to the special mission of the Russian Federation from the Russian Federation, in which the Russian side informs Ukraine of the RF’s intention to withdraw officers of its armed forces from the Central Command and Control Commission from Ukraine.


    Sometimes you have to take information even from openly propaganda resources — however, there are answers to the comments in this article.

    Russian officers, led by Major General Vasilchenko, are indeed leaving the JCCC (joint center for monitoring and coordinating ceasefire and stabilizing the demarcation line in the Donbass), located in Soledar, in the territory controlled by Kiev.

    Does this cancel the Minsk agreements?
    No, STSKK is not a condition of Minsk, it is just an additional tool.
    It was the only channel of at least some kind of communication between the military of the LDNR, Ukraine and the Russian Federation. Now, it will be much more difficult to agree to repair the same damaged by the shelling of power lines or to evacuate personnel of the same Donetsk filter station. Of course, the OSCE plays the main role in such kind of approvals, but they will not go anywhere if even a minimal threat to life and health appears.
    Source: http://rusvesna.su/news/1513443345

    And so I remind you that Lavrov said at the annual meeting of the OSCE Foreign Ministers in Vienna
    earlier
    "In this situation, the Russian side will have to stop its work in the JCCC," said Lavrov.
  18. Zomanus
    Zomanus 17 December 2017 02: 08 New
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    Well damn, it’s clear that the goal of the Ukrainian side is
    continuation of hostilities. The western side fully supports this.
    And our side will need, by and large,
    only after the Ukrainian side once again
    will get trynduley and will run to complain.
  19. Eurodav
    Eurodav 17 December 2017 05: 38 New
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    And where did you get the idea that someone was going to reconcile someone? Personally, I, in this article, did not find a reason for such conclusions ... Ours indicated that there was no sense in our stay, ".. the conditions for the stay of Russian officers from the JCCC in Ukraine were significantly complicated by the efforts of the Ukrainian side ..", our sticks they’re stuck in the wheels, and they risk it, the stubborn ones can also provoke a provocation, with the subsequent arrival of the SBU ...
    And it generally sounds somehow strange:
    "... a letter from the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation with a notification that the Russian Federation intends to withdraw from the territory of Ukraine officers of its Armed Forces from the JCCC ..."
    MO is the Russian Post, Sberbank, Housing Office? What a notice that is GOING !!! Still, add- MAYBE, MAYBE, IT IS POSSIBLE that it really blows a "formidable" chill from such a "notification" !!!
    If it were like this: “the MO notified the SMM that it was withdrawing Russian officers from such a date, for that reason. But after this, a faint hope for something else may flicker ... And so ...
    I agree with this:
    Quote
    Puss in Boots
    along the way it smelled something not good laughing
  20. Old military officer
    Old military officer 17 December 2017 07: 45 New
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    It is high time. The OSCE, like the UN and other international organizations, is subordinate to the United States. NATO and the like And that’s why the gag they surrendered to us. History repeats itself. So it was with the League of Nations until 1939.
  21. Goldmitro
    Goldmitro 17 December 2017 11: 22 New
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    Quote: Going
    My opinion, only after assuming the office of the President is May - June 2018.

    Most likely after the end of the World Cup. For his sake, it seems, we still endure what for a long time should be given in the face!