Presented the number of Ukrainian losses in the Donbass for November-December

Ukrainian volunteers once again confirmed information about a significant understatement by the military command of the number of losses of the security forces of Ukraine in the Donbas. One of the volunteers (Dima Cherny) on the social network publishes a list of the dead Ukrainian military in the battle zone for September and November, accompanying him with a question to the general staff of the Ukrainian Armed Forces.

Of notes (translation from Ukrainian):

I do not understand what prevents the General Staff from telling the truth? Based on official statements, from 1 to 13 December, all 7 dead! And this is a blatant lie. Personally, I with the guys from 1 to 4 December brought out on our bus 5 - "two hundredths", and this is only from under Gorlovka. Why this lie?

Ukraine should know its heroes.
According to the ATO Headquarters, in November and December, 21 people were killed among our fellows, and 69 people were injured.

But the list of guys who died in November and December 2017, according to my data.
This list is much broader than the ATO Headquarters officially submits.

Directly list with the names and call signs of the dead Ukrainian military:

November - 2017

Sergey Sirotenko (Third) born 1977
Stanislav V. Kurbatov (Lawyer) b. 1980
Kochemazov Sergey (Kamaz)
Korenovsky Sergey V. 1979 b.
Nesterenko Valeriy Anatolyevich 1964 b.
Yury Vladimirovich Tyurenko, born 1969
Pashchenko Igor Ivanovich born 1974
Nichvidyuk Valentin Nikolaevich born 1989
Mishko Anton Vasilievich (Tokha) born 1985
Danilov Rostislav Alekseevich 1990 b.
Povalyaev Nikolay Vitalevich
Iorgov Alexey G. 1985 born in
Nikolaev Sergey
Makarevich Vladislav Yanovich 1981 born.
Andrey Dobrovolsky, born 1996
Korolkov Pavel 1986 b.
Yarotsky Alexander Viktorovich 1984 born.
Mikhail Kalikhalin 1988 b.
Vitaly Pasechnik, born 1993
Alexander Kuzmenko, born 1980
Gavrilyuk Yury Olegovich
Smuraga Alexander Petrovich (Smurfik) born 1989
Rabbit Oleg 1975 b.
Victor Motishen 1983 b.
Levitsky Bogdan Vladimirovich
Krivenko Denis Viktorovich (Ninja) born 1981
Shevchenko Sergey Pavlovich (Sheva) born 1974
Sukhinin Alexander Vitalevich (Banya), born 1972
Tyumentsev Alexander (Tyumen) born 1978
Vitaly Efimov
Pavlov Ilya
Litvinchuk Dmitry YUrevich 1992 b.
Perepelitsa Maxim Olegovich born 1990
Viktor Maslov, born 1968

December - 2017

Victor Matyukhin (Kazakh) 51
Dmitry Konokeenko, born 1991
Alexander Gorny 1995 b.
Sergey Satanovsky 1993 g.
Yuri Rudik 1971 b.
watermelon Andrei
Esyuk Ruslan 42
Ivan Dubey 29
Andrey Pavlenko
Anatoly Tverdol 1970 b.
Proshkin Alexander "Proha"
Parasochka Gennady "Kolobok" 1975 b.
Karakostanin Fedor 1994 b.
Zelmanovich Viktor Igorevich 1992 b.
Zubchenko Alexander, born 1990

22 was officially announced the loss, and the "volunteers" removed 49 of the bodies of the dead Ukrainian security officials from the zone of armed conflict.

Comments

[Filat]

When will it all end? There is no horror without end ..?

[Thrall]

And this December is not over yet ...

[volodya]

That’s where the genocide of the Ukrainian people is, otherwise it’s “the Holodomor, the Holodomor”!

[siberalt]

Outside Ukraine, the funeral business is in full swing.

[Spartanez300]

It is necessary to destroy the organizers of wars, and not to kill each other's Slavs.

[sergevonsohrn]

yes, the usurpers usurpers at the people of Ukraine are expensive! and the end-edge is not visible to this bloody bacchanalia! and over the ocean pretty hands rubbing - the Slavs are becoming less and less ....

[Ivan Ivanov]

Quote: Spartanez300

It is necessary to destroy the organizers of wars, and not to kill each other's Slavs.

The Slavs and their parents also do not interfere with turning their heads on and once again thinking where and who they are going for.

[bratchanin3]

The Slavs do not join the Bandera army, so the one who fights he is not Orthodox and fights for the Anglo-Saxon orders, receiving their money for this. These are the enemies of the Russian World and are subject to destruction.

[210ox]

Stop talking about the Slavs .... This is a more coined term, and pops up when you need to kill more Russians.

Quote: Spartanez300

It is necessary to destroy the organizers of wars, and not to kill each other's Slavs.

[CAT BAIYUN]

do not kill each other's Slavs

- I agree with this without question.
But the picture is very wrong and even harmful .. Moreover, it is offensive to Russia.
Firstly: the picture depicts Uncle Sam, holding by the scruff of two soldiers, personifying two states, as the flag of the country is visible behind each of the soldiers. One of the soldiers has a guards tape on his sleeve, a beard on his face (these signs make it possible to unmistakably associate this character with a Russian soldier), the other has a “forelock” and his face is covered with a blindfold, which associates this character with an armed Ukrainian. Such a visual series creates a stable association of the fact that Russia is directly and actively involved in the intra-Ukrainian conflict.
The general meaning of this poster is conveyed by the idea that America is omnipotent and able to rule not only Ukraine (which in the light of the events that have taken place is a true message), but also Russia, which is at least incorrect, but in addition to everything contradicts the true state of things.
The verse in the picture .. It seems that it is written by some non-Russian ....
This is my personal opinion ...

[Cheldon]

Quote: Spartanez300

It is necessary to destroy the organizers of wars, and not to kill each other's Slavs.

Slavs kill Slavs. Who knows that he is a Slav, he fights on the side of the DPR-LPR.

[Vard]

No wonder .. From the Ukrainian side ... According to their own information ... Alcoholics and parasites ... And on the other, professional military ...

[Popovich]

Quote: Vard

And on the other, professional military ...

*
Manual, page 165

- after 3 years of war, inevitably you become a professional military ...

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: Filat

When will it all end? There is no horror without end ..?

Then, when the main characters of urkaine will be transferred to a horizontal state.

[Sergey53]

Real losses will be announced at the end of all this. Yes, and not a fact. They will hide in order not to disturb the society and not to stick out the scale of their baseness and stupidity.

[rotmistr60]

Why be surprised. They (the Armed Forces of Ukraine, National Battles) and from the boilers "heroically" went out leaving them to their own devices, and with "minimal" losses in the hundreds of dead.

[Thrall]

Lies, cowardice and corruption - these are the three pillars on which the leadership of the Armed Forces of Ukraine stands.

[Lelek]

Quote: Thrall

Lies, cowardice and corruption - these are the three pillars on which the leadership of the Armed Forces of Ukraine stands.

And here is the “riot zander” - Klimkin did not lie for the first time:

And the next day, fluidly ... at the UN Security Council:

[Horst78]

It seemed to me alone that the illegally acting Minister of Foreign Affairs of Ukraine used the words "DPR", "LPR", "Lugansk and Donetsk republics", "the authorities of the Lugansk and Donetsk people's republics", "in the territory of the republics of Donbass", "leaders of the republics". The head of the Ukrainian Foreign Ministry in a diplomatic language recognized the existence of the DPR and LPR, and not the "temporarily occupied territories of Ukraine"? However, as they say "according to Freud."

[Lelek]

Quote: Horst78

It seemed to me alone that the illegally acting Minister of Foreign Affairs of Ukraine used the words "DPR", "LPR", "Lugansk and Donetsk republics", "the authorities of the Lugansk and Donetsk people's republics", "in the territory of the republics of Donbass", "leaders of the republics". The head of the Ukrainian Foreign Ministry in a diplomatic language recognized the existence of the DPR and LPR, and not the "temporarily occupied territories of Ukraine"? However, as they say "according to Freud."

Prize to the studio. You are the first to notice this.

[Jedi]

But the APU generals themselves seem awesome strategists. Just as a grandmaster on a chessboard does not spare pawns to achieve his goal - so are these “strategists”. And absolutely do not care that the pawns are alive. It seems that the ukrogenerali did not study at military universities, but turned tails to pigs. I do not regret the dead "cyborgs", just meanness towards my own infuriates, even if this happens to the enemy.

[Thrall]

The fact of the matter is that they graduated from the same military schools as you and I ...

[Jedi]

It turns out that moving to NATO standards, they "forgot" everything that they were taught? Or is one of these same standards - treating your fighters like cannon fodder?

[novel66]

the kindest: hi, I think, the honest and smart ones dumped from there, and the rest thump without drying out

[Jedi]

Roma, mutually! Not only thump, but also gouge everyone in a row for the sake of his pocket.

[novel66]

Max, either fight or trade like that - in my opinion, different brains are needed

[Jedi]

Well, these are descendants of the protoucre - they know how to do everything at the same time (as they think).

[novel66]

yeah, getting rid of everything in all directions at once is purely their chip

[Jedi]

Forgot the proverb about the pursuit of two rabbits.

[CAT BAIYUN]

Evening, dear

It turns out that moving to NATO standards, they "forgot" everything that they were taught?

I do not want to say anything bad about people, but everything good or bad is manifested in them precisely in crisis situations. Which, for example, certainly are fighting. A coward and a bastard in the soul becomes a coward and a bastard ten times greater. Mediocrity manifests itself on a global scale ... So everything is natural ... The situation has changed - true nature has appeared ...

[Jedi]

Vasya, hello! You are fair. Another life will live with the reputation of a great guy only because his life has never driven him into a stressful situation, where all his character traits would have manifested ...

[Viking_fill]

It seems that everyone has forgotten our generals in Chechnya. How many guys were stupidly put? And the mistakes in Ossetia? Graduates of the same universities? Well, if now everything will be wrong. Here, all the amers are blasphemed, but they have no such losses from Vietnam. IMHO

[gavrila2984]

Since Vietnam, our military instructors have not trained anyone who confronts Amer. Only now they continued in Syria, and (who would have thought) from the amers and from those whom they teach very losses. Another thing is that after Iraq they themselves do not particularly go anywhere, they instruct more, like in Ukraine, Georgia or Syria.

[sergevonsohrn]

went to the army not at the behest of the heart, but for ranks and titles, and for a long ruble .... although you can’t judge anyone indiscriminately, there were many honest officers from Ukraine who did not change the oath ....

[Anyone]

And they spoke in the APU in Russian.

[HEATHER]

EH ... Stupid youth ... How did they have to powder their brains like that ... And that's it

[Blue fox]

Not sure about the young. Most made in USSR. Those. in the past, the pioneers and Octobrists in the past imposed a death-bearing idea on the right child patriotism of their relatives in the Donbass.

[Lelek]

Quote: VERESK

Stupid young.

Hey. Not a damn young. Mostly men from the 80s. And that means consciously fighting for the Tugriks and consider it work. It’s sinful to say, but I’m not sorry for them - they knew what they were going to.

[HEATHER]

Zdarova, Lolek! I am judging by my age. I lived until those years when I can discuss crazy years in 30-40 juvenile idiots over a glass of beer!

[Lelek]

Quote: VERESK

I am judging by my age. I lived until those years when I can discuss crazy years in 30-40 juvenile idiots over a glass of beer!

Do not flirt. What is your age if you use beer with mugs. So when you switch to seltzer, then the time will surely come to think about pills from the "instability".

[Kot_Kuzya]

Great news! The more these Nazis die, the faster this war will end!

[Hunter]

Quote: Kot_Kuzya

The more these Nazis die, the faster this war will end!

Natsik just survive again and in caches (in Canada, etc.) sit out, as was already in the Second World War

[Hunter]

Ah Slavs, we don’t know what we are doing each other killing for the joy of some ..

[Thrall]

Quote: Hunter

Ah Slavs, we don’t know what we are doing each other killing for the joy of some ..

Civil wars in non-Slavic regions cough up the people more.

[Hunter]

Quote: Thrall

Quote: Hunter

Ah Slavs, we don’t know what we are doing each other killing for the joy of some ..

Civil wars in non-Slavic regions cough up the people more.

Everything is true of course, but they only multiply quickly, and our educated educated and most often the only ones in the family die .. That's scary!

[ProkletyiPirat]

Well, here we are to blame ourselves if we let our heads be fooled (moreover, to blame starting from the collapse of the USSR), it’s good that we managed to avoid drawing in large forces.

[Thrall]

Quote: ProkletyiPirat

Well, here we are to blame ourselves if we let our heads be fooled (moreover, to blame starting from the collapse of the USSR), it’s good that we managed to avoid drawing in large forces.

Well, are you or I personally, or are our parents to blame? Of course not! The cowardly snickering partelite surrendered the country.

[novel66]

even the military could not. I, frankly, was waiting for some Pinochet, to restore order - and did not even flicker

[ProkletyiPirat]

Well, I’m definitely not to blame for the collapse of the USSR, because I was born in 89, although .... I can even attribute the blame for the collapse of the USSR arguing that “if you hadn’t your parents, you could have started the revolution and you prevented them,” delirious of course but also fault. For those who did nothing and lived at the same time are to blame, to blame as they did nothing or did too little to maintain the integrity of the country. Although the majority for personal reassurance is easier to blame everything on others.

[sergevonsohrn]

I completely agree! these are all “responses” of the collapse of the union! and this is our fault - allowed the liberals to powder our brains .... conclusion: of course, the union cannot be restored in full, but we must persistently continue the integration processes in the post-Soviet space! this is what Putin is doing, causing the fury of the overseas "hawks" .... and the protégés of the west, to the neck !!!

[gavrila2984]

That's for sure. Many Russian surnames.

[Fedorov]

My friend, Ukrainian officer, from under the kick. When he drove into Izvarino, he burped, the bodies were loaded with a tractor. And who counted them there? Now quietly sorting through the paper lawyer. Especially since the Shooter was nefig to drive at him, right now fashionable. I myself was a little side there .. and I am responsible for my words.

[just exp]

Is a shooter a shooter?
if so, there was nothing surprising there. just violent mattresses from the Maidan utilized. there were a couple of thousand of them and among them about 800 were especially violent, and even before the seizure of power they were promised a bunch of nishtyaks if successful. and here is the "grandfather" of the maydauns, and there are many hungry mouths, few nishatks. and if you consider that nishtyaki are bread positions for which the organizers claimed among the locals, then the violent ones which did not get anything already became not only unnecessary, but also dangerous.
therefore, they were sent as meat to Slavyansk for disposal. this was the reason not only for their stupidity, but also for their irresponsibility, where the kaklov were deliberately put under fire by large masses. as soon as the disposal was over, Slavyansk was taken pretty quickly.
so as far as I remember Strelkov’s success is not from his talents, but from the current situation (although I can be mistaken, but I have data from direct participants in the battles, and who have seen what is not officially voiced, and I personally am sure that it’s not the Russian Federation it only saved the republics, but it also broke the backbone of the NATO army (there, besides the kaklov, almost all the NATO countries gathered there.

[LiSiCyn]

Welcome I would like to ask if there are real docks (corpses, documents) of PMC participation near Slavyansk? I myself remember monitoring the network ... But apart from the stories, there was nothing ..

[just exp]

and then expose real docks? they are not taken with them, and besides, the countries themselves cover the fact of PMC participation and other things. the Iraqis in the Donbass were captured, and their corpses were captured, but no one officially showed them and did not poke their faces at the countries.
it seems that the whole war is an agreement on the coverage of the participation of countries.

[Herculesic]

So the volunteers, too, I suppose, were not everywhere. And lie ukroinskaya power is much, proven hundreds of times! They don’t need the truth, so that there wouldn’t be a social explosion, that the people would not take down all the power throughout the ukroin. !

[Lelek]

Quote: Herkulesich

They don't need the truth

Kiev hetmanism was really pissed off bringing the truth to the plebs, but to the inhabitants of the independent truth of hotstsa themselves. And in this they go to all sorts of tricks. Here's how to make it in Lviv.

[Antares]

Quote: Lelek

but to the inhabitants of the independent truth of hotstsa.

to say the least nonsense. The words that the Russian partner, that the Ukrainian sound the same. There is almost no truth in them.
I am surprised that someone thinks that Ukrainians believe in television. Yes, and all without exception.

[Lelek]

Quote: Antares

I am surprised that someone thinks that Ukrainians believe in television.

You know, I don’t even want to answer you.

[just exp]

I am surprised that you do not know what is happening in your own country.
and I personally saw how the ruins of the ruins of my relatives and acquaintances will be worn out.
and yes, now maybe that has changed. but as they were Judas, they will remain so.

[LeonidL]

Not all and without exception ... many just pulled out the cable ...

[Simon]

Quote: Popovich

the crested morons (gayropeytsy) are not Slavs, they transferred the remains of that blood .. (1R1) being sold to zhide-Bandera! and this scum is subject to complete destruction. I did not have time to make Stalin!

Yes! Stalin wanted to do good, but it turned out the other way around!

[Lelek]

Quote: Simon

but it turned out the other way around

"On the contrary" did not work out for Stalin, but for those who ruined the USSR.

[Simon]

Quote: Fedorov

My friend, Ukrainian officer, from under the kick. When he drove into Izvarino, he burped, the bodies were loaded with a tractor. And who counted them there? Now quietly sorting through the paper lawyer. Especially since the Shooter was nefig to drive at him, right now fashionable. I myself was a little side there .. and I am responsible for my words.

I believe! I am your friend.

[Simon]

Quote: ProkletyiPirat

Well, here we are to blame ourselves if we let our heads be fooled (moreover, to blame starting from the collapse of the USSR), it’s good that we managed to avoid drawing in large forces.

They are to blame for believing Gorbach and Yeltsin, and in their policies. Because of this, everything happened. The Union collapsed, but the Americans are here. Then Maidan and put their rats, are still biting for power.

[Mountain shooter]

The numbers are ugly! And how do they spend these losses? How not fighting, sanitary, or what?

[fa2998]

Quote: Blue Fox

Not sure about the young. Most made in USSR. Those. in the past, the pioneers and Octobrists in the past imposed a death-bearing idea on the right child patriotism of their relatives in the Donbass.

There, among the dead, born 64-69, and probably there are older! This is already the age of 50 years. Is VSU already calling for "partisans"?

[LiSiCyn]

One with the call sign of Bach, "Afghan" ... And the name is Russian .... Well, something like that.

[LiSiCyn]

What happened to us over these 25 years? Why did we become so? For me it was "wild", at one time, to find out that Ukrainians and Russians were fighting on the side of Chechen fighters ...

[armourer]

Quote: Spartanez300

It is necessary to destroy the organizers of wars, and not to kill each other's Slavs.

Golden words!

[Hunter]

Quote: armourer

Golden words!

Or maybe all of this is for the best .. We cleanse ourselves with blood and then we will build our new world!

[Settlement Oparyshev]

Us what to relish these losses?

[midshipman]

Here is a tagged and drunk result of your work. And hundreds more enterprises have been liquidated. Of the 19 subordinates to my State Directorate of the MPI of the USSR, all were liquidated. And this is 90 thousand specialists working. And if you take with their family members, this is about 400 thousand people lost their livelihood. I have the honor.

[Bronevick]

So many young were killed. Kapets is simple.

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

The Ukrainian army must withdraw from the Donetsk and Lugansk regions, the people in these republics made their choice - this is independence from Ukraine, just like that Ukraine itself made 26 years ago, no one bombed or shot them for it ...
No one will give the Donbass to the Western governors in Ukraine and the Bandera’s battalions ... They won’t leave alive themselves - they will take them out dead ...

[Spnsr]

Quote: yorik9

their FFM Russians :(

Only it is not clear, where do the Russians?
It's just that in the head of Ukrainians, the suicide virus!

[just exp]

Well, yes, when they searched for “those who died in the Donbass” on social networks, both Facebook and VKontakte with one-eyed people were affiliate sources, but when we started talking about fertilizers from kaklov, then we have to, they abruptly ceased to be reliable sources.
kakly ane such kakly.

[LeonidL]

Poor Yorick, very very poor Yorick ...

[Yoshi]

Demons are in power.
Under the demons gavnomuty.
Under the gavnomuty durogons.
Under the Durogons gavnomety.
and somewhere far below - the people.

[Incvizitor]

They are there and BEFORE death body simply.

[Terenin]

Quote: siberalt

Outside Ukraine, the funeral business is in full swing.

Who will bury all of them ??? ... from x \ f about Evpatiya Kolovrat

[LeonidL]

Well this is not a problem! Light is not without good people. After all, Petyunchik Potroshenko promised them land - that’s what they get for free.

[Cat]

Ordinary propaganda. We multiply the enemy’s losses by (from 3 to 10), we divide our losses by the same numbers. Well, in general, I really like the episode from the Stanley Kubrick movie Full Metal Jacked, where the propaganda officer explained to the salag how to work

[ykyc74]

It's a shame, most of the names are Russian ....

[assa67]

Quote: siberalt

Outside Ukraine, the funeral business is in full swing.

such is the fate of those who are fighting against their own people ..... it’s only a pity that they don’t understand why they are sent to a meat grinder ....

[Wolka]

to whom war, and to whom mother is dear ...

[hhhhhhh]

Then they will tell how they did not want to fight. Become the banner of the Nazis get your Stalingrad.

[colorado]

someday it may end

[akm8226]

I can say only one thing about this - EVERYONE who came to the ATO came there either of their own free will or because of their own cowardice. Who are these “knights” going to fight against? Against the army of the Russian Federation? If the Russian army had already been there, all the atoshniks, led by a parasha, would cut down the forest in Kolyma. Consequently, they clearly knew that they were going to kill civilians. Therefore, I am not at all sorry for them - the more they die, the better.

[LeonidL]

So immediately the forest in Kolyma !!! The forest is a pity! Kolyma feel sorry! let it be better in Mordovia to prepare slippers ...

[LeonidL]

Good but not enough. Donbass must free itself completely from the Nazi occupiers and their minions!

[SEER]

"no losses" - "talking helmet" tymchuk ...