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Falklands evil rockIn recent weeks, the eyes of many Russians, and not only them, have been focused on the distant region of the South Atlantic, where the tragedy with the Argentinean submarine San Juan was played out. A submarine that has stopped contacting has been searched for a month aviation and the fleet of Argentina itself, as well as several countries of the world. Even far from those places, Russia sent a group of specialists and the latest oceanographic research vessel Yantar to the area of ​​operation, which recently put the Pentagon and the White House on its ears with a mysterious raid. But behind the ups and downs of this catastrophe, as it is now becoming clear, few people paid attention to one coincidence. If the submarine "San Juan" disappeared north of the Falkland Islands, for the possession of which the Argentines in the last century entered into a heated battle with the British, then 35 years ago, south of the archipelago in the same war, the Argentine cruiser General Belgrano died.


WINTER FORTUNA

Argentinean the fleet until very recently, one might say, lucky. The country remained neutral in both the First and Second World Wars, thereby avoiding a bloody tribute to the insatiable god of war. At the same time, interestingly, in 1940, the Argentinean naval forces (Navy) were considered the eighth in terms of combat power in the world, inferior to the fleets of the largest European powers, as well as the USA and Japan. And of course, they were the largest Navy in Latin America.

But then luck changed the Argentine admirals: first, during the Falklands War (1982), they lost one of their largest warships, the cruiser “General Belgrano”, which became the largest history national naval disaster, and three and a half decades later, already in peacetime, the fleet suffered a second terrible disaster.

We will not consider here all the vicissitudes of the tragedy with the San-Juan diesel-electric submarine (diesel-electric submarine), since the media covered it in some detail. Unless we note: a submarine not yet found is far from being the first sacrifice of the still misunderstood ocean. Suffice it to recall that next year it will be exactly half a century, which may well be called the “black year of the submarine” (see “The Mystery of the Disappeared Submarines”, “NVO” from 01.12.17). The fact is that in the 1968 year, for four reasons that were not fully understood, four submarines disappeared at once - the French Minerva, the Israeli Dakar, the Soviet K-129 (see "Who is responsible for the death of K-129", "HBO "From 24.11.17), as well as the American nuclear-powered icebreaker" Scorpion ".

But the area where the San Juan submarine allegedly disappeared, we will devote more attention. This happened at the point with the coordinates 46 degrees 44 minutes u.sh. and 60 degrees 8 minutes W., that is, north of Falkland, or as the Argentines call them, the Malvinas Islands. But to the south of this archipelago, at the coordinates of the 55 degrees 24 minutes minutes s. and 61 degrees 32 minutes W., 2 May 1982, the British nuclear submarine (NPS) "Concaurus" was sunk by the Argentine cruiser "General Belgrano". The result of the tragedy - 323 dead.

IRON LADY ORDERED: “TOP!”

It is believed that British Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher decided only a few minutes to decide whether to sink or not sink the Argentine ship. But then for the rest of her life she was forced to constantly defend her decision and prove that it was the only true one. Many thought that it was simply the principled position of a famous politician: well, the Iron Lady cannot admit that she was wrong! However, in The 2011, the book The Silent Listener: British Electronic Surveillance: Falklands 1982, a former employee of British intelligence, retired major David Thorpe, who, as it turns out, Thatcher had already commissioned to carefully check and recheck all the information on this episode of the Falklands War establishing the truth and whether the decision made by the Prime Minister was adequate. The author proves - yes, adequately!

On the basis of radio intercept data and other intelligence information, Thorpe reveals that the shipboard strike group led by the General Belgrano cruiser was at the time of the attack outside the British government from 12 on April 1982 of the 200 mile exclusion zone around “its islands” (the point of death defended from its border on 36 miles), within which the fleet of Her Majesty obliged to sink everyone, but had the order to follow a point located within this zone, with the aim of striking the ships of the British expeditionary ship togetherness. However, the book was subjected to devastating criticism from some naval experts for a number of inconsistencies with other well-known and reliable sources, so the question of where the cruiser went - inside the restricted area or away from it - remained, in the opinion of many open.

Moreover, the missing part of the logbook of the Konkaor nuclear submarine, covering about six months of its service, including the sinking of the Argentine cruiser, has not been made public. True, in 2012, Stewart Prebble’s book The Secrets of the Conqueror: The Untold Story of Britain’s Deadliest Submarine, in which he points out that the document disappeared, not because of any incidents in the submariners during the Falklands War, because of their participation after its completion in a joint top-secret reconnaissance-sabotage operation with the Americans against the Soviet Union, known under the designation “Barmaid” (can be translated as “barmaid”, “waitress” or “barmaid”) and intended to steal secret sonar equipment - new towed sonar antenna.

In any case, no matter how tragic it may sound, the actions of the Commander’s commander were “ordinary” for “ordinary war” (by the way, Argentine sailors themselves admit it). What’s unusual was that it was the first ever nuclear submarine’s torpedo attack in world history, and the fact that the Concaur submarine was returning under the flag, which can be called “pirate”: on its black cloth was a skull against a background of crossed torpedoes and three symbols - the pirate blade, the silhouette of the cruiser “General Belgrano” and the symbol of nuclear energy. True, it became even more unusual for me that once I read in one of the foreign forums that the Argentinean sailor who survived the death of Belgrano was looking for the purpose of "talking and remembering someone from the crew of the Conqueor submarine." I vividly imagined how our veteran, who had died to death on the Kursk Bulge, writes that he would like to "talk for life" with one of the tankers of the "Dead Head" division who ironed them in the hot summer of 1943! What different wars are different ...

PROGRAMMED TRAGEDY

However, the tragedy with General Belgrano was programmed from the very moment that the leaders of the Argentine military junta made a suicidal decision to carry out their small, victorious war.

“Until recently, we were constantly told that the Argentines were the salt of the earth. We have also been told for years that the Falklands belong to Argentina. In the end, those who spoke to us believed in their words themselves, ”writes Argentine historian Carlos Escud. - Now, no one doubted that if we take a power action, then we will be supported by all, including the United States. What naivety. But it was even more naive to believe that the UK would not respond to the challenge. That she will allow us to pick up the island. But it was already a glove thrown in the face of the entire NATO bloc. ”

Moreover, the main initiator of the invasion of Falkland was precisely the representative of the fleet - the commander of the Argentine Navy, Admiral Jorge Anaya, who planned the operation "Rosario". It was supposed to launch an invasion either on the day of the beginning of the liberation revolution - 25 in May, or on Independence Day - 9 in July, but the internal political situation (30 in March, for example, was a mass demonstration in Buenos Aires, cruelly dispersed by the army) forced the military to hurry.

On March 26, General Leopoldo Galtieri ordered the start of a force rally to seize the Falkland Islands, and on March 30, a large force of the Argentine naval forces (aircraft carrier, cruiser, two destroyers URO, frigate URO and one DEPL) accompanied the landing party including three landing ships and three transports with subunits of marines and ground forces. For the British military intelligence, everything became extremely clear - an armed seizure of the islands was being prepared, which was reported to the top. At the same time, the first nuclear submarine, the Spartan, was sent to the islands.

2 on April, Argentine troops occupied the islands, and on the same day London broke off relations with Buenos Aires, and from 5 April began deploying expeditionary forces in the South Atlantic to carry out Operation Archipelago. In total, from 5 April to 15 June, the UK sent 136 warships and ships, around 70 airplanes, more 80 helicopters to the combat area, as well as a military contingent of up to 9 thousand people. Thus, London sent to the South Atlantic almost half (!) Of the ships and ships in the Navy at that time. Moreover, to ensure the communication of the leadership staff with the flagship, which was played by the aircraft carrier Hermes, the British launched the Gepfiller communications satellite into geostationary orbit! But the main thing - the British sent there nuclear submarines, officially, by the way, by announcing it.

By and large, the latter was supposed to sober up the junta, because even today it is extremely difficult to find nuclear-powered patrols underwater (now they cannot even find a non-nuclear submarine!), And even then it was completely beyond the power of the Argentines. Therefore, none of their ship could not feel safe. “The only way to reliably find out about the presence of a submarine is to start losing your ships, but it’s a very expensive way,” says one of the Submarine book’s heroes: Tom Clancy and John Gresham (not to be confused with best-selling author John Grisham ). But no, whether the warning did not work, or the fact that this book came out 10 years later. In the end, the responsibility for the arrogance of the Argentinean command was to command the "General Belgrano".

He just did not get lucky

Moreover, the cruiser literally turned out to be at the wrong time and place. The fact is that two days before the other two British nuclear submarines, the Spartan and Splendid, "targeted the Argentinian aircraft carrier, but for several reasons did not attack it (in one case the commander missed the moment, in the other - was not received "Good" of the higher command). The destroyer who accompanied the “General Belgrano” was also lucky: it is believed that one of the three torpedoes of the Concaror got into it, but for some reason it did not explode (probably because the commander of the older type, the torpedoes, still in 1927, fired year, since only they were guaranteed to penetrate the armored cruiser hull). But after the death of the cruiser a sharp enlightenment happened in the hot heads - the Argentine surface fleet firmly sat down in the bases and did not leave anywhere else. But the British squadron was considerably thinned by Argentine pilots, avenging the sailors.

Rear Admiral Jorge Gualtier Allarra, who served as the commander of the Argentine Navy fleet in 1980 and was directly involved in planning the invasion of the Falklands, later recalled his conversation with the naval commander Admiral Jorge Anaya: “The admiral had no doubt that no serious military reaction on the part of the British would follow ... Although if the British discovered our preparation for the operation, they could derail it only by sending one multi-purpose nuclear submarine to that area. ”

The Argentine admiral, as they say, jinxed. The British submarine sent yet. And not one. The consequences of the arrival of the three nuclear-powered ships were sad - the sinking of the cruiser and the worst losses in the history of the Argentine Navy in ship and personnel. Moreover, it was the case with “General Belgrano” that became the red line beyond which there was simply no peaceful solution to the problem. For the shed blood it was necessary to take revenge at all costs. It was then that everything began to turn at a frantic pace, and the result is well known to us. After the current tragedy, the area of ​​disputed islands has become some kind of damned place ...
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  1. Lexus
    Lexus 17 December 2017 19: 42 New
    +2
    All of them, "Westerners," are smeared in one world and pray to the doller. And there is nothing surprising in the fact that the batteries explode, not the bombs dropped by Argentines on small-brit. The moral of this fable is this: BUY RUSSIAN!
    1. xetai9977
      xetai9977 18 December 2017 10: 37 New
      +6
      Do you work in an advertising agency? Too intrusive advertising!
    2. Megatron
      Megatron 24 December 2017 04: 10 New
      0
      It is not very clear, but from the article I realized that the author justifies the British and condemns Argentina, although where are the English shores and where are the Falklands. I think it will still be a rematch.
  2. Conductor
    Conductor 17 December 2017 20: 30 New
    +4
    In general, the position of the Angles is surprising. Conkeror sank Belgrano, outside the zone. And what, this is an enemy ship, as part of a detachment, located neither in the neutral port, but, in principle, not far from the conflict zone, and that the prime minister’s decision to sink is necessary! Promptly however))) And what kind of aircraft carrier could the pritsea have, but did not receive the go-ahead from the higher command, is it a war or stock trading on the stock exchange?
    1. bk0010
      bk0010 18 December 2017 00: 30 New
      +2
      Maybe the question here is that Belgrano is, of course, a cruiser, but closer to the monument (like Aurora) than to a warship - it is very old (1938). Another thing is not clear: why did his args drive out into the sea: were they not going to fight on it?
  3. Conductor
    Conductor 17 December 2017 20: 32 New
    +2
    Hardly Tiesenhausen or Prien, at one time, requested permission to attack. Identified the enemy, hit him. Or has international law become so, mmmm, regulated in terms of warfare?
  4. Doctor Evil
    Doctor Evil 17 December 2017 20: 53 New
    16
    I didn’t understand the meaning of the article, honestly. All in a bunch. People, horses, junta, "Belgrano" to the south, "San Juan" to the north, a torpedo in the destroyer. These islands are still. "This place is cursed" (c) film "Mummy".
  5. verner1967
    verner1967 17 December 2017 21: 19 New
    +2
    The article is interesting, but the author,
    He vividly imagined how our veteran, who had died on the Kursk Bulge, wrote that he would like to "talk for life" with someone from the tankers of the "Dead Head" division who ironed them in the hot summer of 1943!
    how did the reality pass you by In the 90s, fraternities of the veterans of the USSR and Germany were fashionable, in particular, I remember how I personally saw a meeting of two "Stalingraders" and their joint ostramization in a box. The spectacle is certainly an obscene one for our country, a sleek and smug Hans, patronizingly patting the shoulder of our grandfather ruined by life in orders, as if we were not the victors in that war ....
  6. Monster_Fat
    Monster_Fat 17 December 2017 21: 45 New
    0
    became some kind of damned place ...

    After reading this phrase, for some reason I immediately thought about AvtoVAZ ..... winked
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 17 December 2017 21: 49 New
      +1
      Detroit is better in every way.
      1. Monster_Fat
        Monster_Fat 17 December 2017 22: 01 New
        +2
        Populate two-thirds of Togliatti with blacks, then we'll see where it will be “better ...” wink
        1. Moore
          Moore 18 December 2017 04: 55 New
          +1
          Detroit blown away by blacks? Freshly...
  7. The leader of the Redskins
    The leader of the Redskins 17 December 2017 21: 57 New
    +4
    Actually, the paradox and tragedy of the situation are obvious. The British themselves installed the 200 mile closed zone, and then they themselves drown the cruiser outside it. Why was the zone installed? And the ironic excuses look ridiculous - they say he was "going" ....
    It brings to mind a joke:
    Cops are found during the next search of a peasant in a village in the attic of a rusty, old, leaky moonshine. Well, they begin to draw up an act.
    A man makes excuses - he’s not mine, but his great-grandfather, probably ... Leaky ... Rusty ... Not a worker ....
    Cops do not appease - there is, then we are drawing up an act!
    Man - well, then let's make up about the rape!
    Cops - what a rape ?!
    A man takes off his pants and points to an organ - well, after all, there is !!!!
  8. 7gor
    7gor 17 December 2017 22: 28 New
    0
    What can I guess on the coffee grounds! The order for drowning was given by the “crazy woman” Thatcher! fool
    1. renics
      renics 18 December 2017 06: 58 New
      +1
      Exactly, and then came to power in the USSR humpbacked or labeled as he is called, he went to her and to Reagan to surrender the USSR. And about the loss of the Argentinean submarine, the foreign press writes this.
      Missing Argentina submarine destroyed by British helicopter? On November 15, 2017, the Navy of Argentina lost contact with its submarine San Juan, on board of which there were 44 people. At the last moment of getting in touch, the boat allegedly surfaced in the area of ​​the San Jorge Bay off the coast of the province of Santa Cruz. She made the transition from the base "Ushuaia" to the place of permanent deployment on the basis of "Mar del Plata". The boat was searched almost by the whole world and according to the existing official version on the submarine there was a “problem with batteries”, because of which “a fire broke out”. Official perpetrators of the disaster were even appointed. They turned out to be two German companies, allegedly supplying low-quality batteries to Argentina. It turns out that just before the moment of disappearance, “San Juan” escaped the pursuit of the British anti-submarine helicopter, supported by the ship of the Navy of Chile. This was suddenly reported by the sister of one of the dead sailors, to whom his brother, shortly before his death, managed to transmit a short private message.
      Jessica Medina, whose brother Roberto Daniel Medina served on board the lost submarine, in an exclusive interview with La Gaceta, said that several days before the official loss of contact with the submarine via the WhatsApp application, Jessica Medina received a message from brother: “It was a strange message in which he told us that a British helicopter and a Chilean warship were looking for their boat. Unfortunately, the conversation was interrupted. And that was the last message. "
      1. Megatron
        Megatron 24 December 2017 13: 03 New
        0
        How did he use the vatsap there? In the sea, under water, in the submarine’s hull? Already funny.
  9. Russian whale
    Russian whale 17 December 2017 22: 35 New
    +2
    Quote: Dr. Evil
    I didn’t understand the meaning of the article, honestly. All in a bunch. People, horses, junta, "Belgrano" to the south, "San Juan" to the north, a torpedo in the destroyer. These islands are still. "This place is cursed" (c) film "Mummy".

    Can you tell me where you can read your articles?
    1. renics
      renics 18 December 2017 07: 08 New
      +2
      Yes, the article is ambitious in its chronology and systematization, and it is difficult to grasp its meaning. More details about the Falkland War are written here with all the numerous references. The Falkland War is an armed conflict between Great Britain and Argentina related to Argentina's claims for ownership of the Falkland Islands. In the United States and Europe, it is called the “Conflict in the South Atlantic,” the Argentines call it the “Malvinas conflict,” and the British call it the “War in the South Atlantic” or the “Falkland War,” in Russian literature it is called the “Anglo-Argentine armed conflict." The fighting lasted 74 days and ended with the surrender of Argentina. http://wiki.wargaming.net/en/Navy:%D0%A4%D0%BE%D0
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  10. Russian whale
    Russian whale 17 December 2017 22: 36 New
    +1
    Quote: verner1967
    The article is interesting, but the author,
    He vividly imagined how our veteran, who had died on the Kursk Bulge, wrote that he would like to "talk for life" with someone from the tankers of the "Dead Head" division who ironed them in the hot summer of 1943!
    how did the reality pass you by In the 90s, fraternities of the veterans of the USSR and Germany were fashionable, in particular, I remember how I personally saw a meeting of two "Stalingraders" and their joint ostramization in a box. The spectacle is certainly an obscene one for our country, a sleek and smug Hans, patronizingly patting the shoulder of our grandfather ruined by life in orders, as if we were not the victors in that war ....

    It’s good that I didn’t see this program, and even better, although it’s a sin to say so that my grandfather and grandmother — the war veterans — did not live up to this program ...
  11. Captain Nemo
    Captain Nemo 17 December 2017 23: 59 New
    +2
    And how to land a plane, we will tell in the next issue of our magazine
  12. beeper
    beeper 18 December 2017 00: 50 New
    +6
    Babac! ... and the "evil Folkland rock" overnight dragged by the ears? wink And the dead Argentinean submarine, "for the seed"?
    I well remember that time and that international situation around the island war of the WB and Argentina. There was a disturbing time and all sorts of different speculation-rumors circulated. Honestly, I was mentally on the side of the Argentines, since we were on the opposite side of the world’s confrontation with the Naglosaks, ... all the parameters of the English “Chieftains” and the latest “Challengers”, the tactics and organization of units and subunits, as well as much more (on “ ZVO "was signed, and regularly read it from cover to cover, so that he had a good idea of ​​the Argentine and English fleet), then he knew by heart, was that (along the way, remained that way? winked ) our "probable adversary" and if he suffered losses, then it was to us, the Soviet Union, on hand ...
    In place, Thatcher would also give the order to sink the largest ship of the Argentinean fleet, in order to try to break the morale of the enemy in one fell swoop, throw him in shock and awe! yes Even then, after the news of the sinking of the cruiser "General Belgrano", I thought that the next sunken ship would be the Argentine aircraft carrier, and it was there .... they were kept "on the fly" and the British spoiled it, understandably ...
    The Argentinean Super Etandar pilots completely “gouged” their Exocets and burned out a fundamentally harmful manufacturing concept for warships, superstructures made from combustible aluminum-magnesium alloys — this was a clear lesson not only for British shipbuilders! ... He sincerely regretted that the Argentinean stock of Exocet’s anti-ship missiles was quickly depleted, and the French refused to replenish it smile What was, was, "Alager com Alager." request
    I hope that the lost Argentinean DPL will soon be found on the seabed and the families and friends of the sailors will become somehow calmer in the Soul — they will know where the mass grave of their beloved people is more important for relatives than for the state!
    1. MOSKVITYANIN
      MOSKVITYANIN 18 December 2017 01: 31 New
      +2
      beeper
      Babac! ... and the "evil Folkland rock" overnight dragged by the ears? wink A dead Argentinean submarine, "for the seed"?

      Definitely. The Falklands theme was pulled by the ears ...
      1. beeper
        beeper 18 December 2017 03: 17 New
        +2
        And then yes , of course for the ears ...?!
        hi
  13. Murmansk51
    Murmansk51 18 December 2017 00: 57 New
    +4
    Conflict has taken place. And those events will still be discussed. I’ll tell you about what I saw myself. Conclusions for readers. In the fall of 1981 he graduated from the Moscow Institute of International Relations. In the spring, the Zapolyarye PPR fished in the AChA krill. The conflict began, at the PPR "Polar", the headquarters of the industry (the ship had satellite communications with Moscow). They gave the order to withdraw all ships. We built a caravan, we are ahead of us the rest of the vessel. An impressive spectacle included all deck lighting with additional floodlight and stern flag spotlights. At night, on the locator on the port and starboard, clear illumination of two targets. With the dawn, they simply dissolved. The seafarer had a maritime department specializing in submarine. Too much for the warring parties. The question is who did what there? There was also an instruction in case of detection of bodies in water to urgently report but in no case (if there are no signs of life) should not be taken aboard. It is surprising that after many years, already working in oil exploration, he flew from the English air base with a shift crew to the Falklands and much was confirmed.
  14. MOSKVITYANIN
    MOSKVITYANIN 18 December 2017 01: 29 New
    +3
    After the current tragedy, the area of ​​the disputed islands completely became some kind of damned place ...

    It became a cursed place after discovering hydrocarbon reserves in the Falklands ...
    At one time, during the “parade of sovereignty” in the 50's, the British did not say anything against the UN Decolonization Committee of the United Nations to grant independence to the Falklands, apparently everything was decided by oil ...
    The casus of this war is that for the archipelago with a population of 1 800 people fought 45 000 v / sl ....
    1. Murmansk51
      Murmansk51 18 December 2017 01: 47 New
      +4
      I agree with you since the joint venture was engaged in the exploration of the possibility of oil production. From our side, a ship with a crew was provided, science was a team of Germans, British, Norwegians, Americans, Australians, etc. The results are positive.
  15. Vladimir1155
    Vladimir1155 18 December 2017 09: 02 New
    0
    prefer to buy western junk .... banana republics without independence from the West
  16. Usher
    Usher 18 December 2017 22: 51 New
    +2
    "probably because the commander fired torpedoes of the older type - Mark VIII, adopted as early as 1927, since only they were guaranteed to break through the cruiser’s armored corps." I mean, ONLY they, and what type of modern torpedoes are charged with dandelions? Some stupid words, he doubted the competence of the author.
    1. Romka47
      Romka47 19 December 2017 11: 11 New
      +1
      I was also hooked about torpedoes. Obviously some kind of nonsense.
  17. Murmansk51
    Murmansk51 19 December 2017 17: 52 New
    0
    Obviously, they were too smart about torpedoes. But the fact that the attack on the cruiser was a fact beyond the combat zone. At the same time, the British themselves do not hide the fact that at this time there was an American nuclear submarine. What is her participation, just watched, maybe participated?
  18. ver_
    ver_ 21 December 2017 16: 47 New
    0
    Quote: Conductor
    In general, the position of the Angles is surprising. Conkeror sank Belgrano, outside the zone. And what, this is an enemy ship, as part of a detachment, located neither in the neutral port, but, in principle, not far from the conflict zone, and that the prime minister’s decision to sink is necessary! Promptly however))) And what kind of aircraft carrier could the pritsea have, but did not receive the go-ahead from the higher command, is it a war or stock trading on the stock exchange?

    ..that means * beat Freddy first *, and then the showdown ...