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American bulletproof vest will not save from the Russian bullet

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US media have noted the high level of development of Russian sniper weapons. According to military experts, three sniper systems are now being used in Russia, which pose a serious danger to American soldiers, who are no longer saved by body armor.


The National Interest writes that in the USA it was possible to create body armor that can withstand the impact of Dragunov and SV-98 sniper rifles using 7,62x54 mm ammunition. But for the Russian army developed a large-caliber rifle SVDK designed to defeat the enemy, even in a heavy body armor.



This weapon is created on the basis of a hunting carbine "Tiger-9" chambered for 9.3x64 mm. By the way, such ammunition was originally used for hunting large African animals, including elephants.

Having a relatively small weight (6,5 kilogram), SVDK is able to penetrate body armor from a distance of 600 meters. At the same time, NATO has no sniper systems comparable to the SVDK.

Also, the American edition notes the recently gaining popularity of the Russian sniper rifle Orsis T-5000 for .338 Lapua ammunition. In addition, it is reported on the development of the concern "Kalashnikov" on the basis of CB-98 rifles CB-338 under the same cartridge. The National Interest emphasizes that new weapons allow Russian snipers to pierce body armor from long distances.

American body armor will not be able to protect US Army soldiers from large-caliber Russian rifles ASVK and ASVK-M using 12,7xXNNXX mm ammunition. The publication notes that NATO has counterparts of a modernized KAFP, but the Russian rifle still differs favorably from them due to its lightness and compactness, reports WG-Sil
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  1. newcomer
    newcomer 15 December 2017 12: 32
    18
    some stupidity in the last paragraph. how is it generally possible to save life with a 12,7 bulletproof vest?
    1. Grandfather
      Grandfather 15 December 2017 12: 36
      +8
      Quote: newbie
      some stupidity in the last paragraph. how is it generally possible to save life with a 12,7 bulletproof vest?

      1 class. It must protect the Stechkin pistol (APS) 9x18 mm from the bullet with a steel core (Pst). Bullet speed 345 m / s, distance 5 meters.
      2nd grade. Pistol "Vector" (SR-1), cartridge 9x21 mm, lead bullet at a speed of 400 m / s, distance 5 meters.
      3rd grade. A bulletproof vest of this class should protect against a bullet of a 9x19 mm Yarygin pistol with a steel heat-strengthened core. Bullet speed 455 m / s, distance 5 meters.
      4th grade. It should provide protection against shots from AK-74, a 5,45x39 mm cartridge, a bullet with a steel heat-strengthened core, a bullet speed of 895 m / s, a distance of 10 meters. And also from a shot from AKM, a cartridge of 7,62x39 mm, a bullet with a steel heat-strengthened core, a speed of 720 m / s, a distance of 10 meters.
      5th grade. SVD rifle, cartridge 7,62x54 mm, bullet with a steel heat-strengthened core, speed 830 m / s, distance 10 m.
      6th grade. Bulletproof vests of this class must withstand a shot of the OSV-96 or B-94 rifle of 12,7 mm caliber. Cartridge 12,7x108 mm, a bullet with a steel heat-strengthened core. Speed ​​830 m / s, distance 50 meters.
      1. newcomer
        newcomer 15 December 2017 12: 43
        +9
        I agree. I know this theory. but practice, you see, I saw the “impact” of the 12,7 bullet. I don’t think there is a bulletproof vest, I emphasize functional for a soldier, but something like a “sapper” suit. I also know the practice when 7.62 s “take” fifth-class armored vehicles from impressive distances.
        1. Grandfather
          Grandfather 15 December 2017 12: 46
          +4
          Quote: newbie
          I know the practice when 7.62 s “take” fifth-class armored vehicles from impressive distances.

          we don’t know which vests we are talking about, but I agree, I probably don’t feel like living after 12,7 ...
          1. Shurik70
            Shurik70 15 December 2017 13: 13
            +3
            I think such a "suit" is possible. But he must have a large space between the body and the armor, and he himself must weigh a lot. That is, it is already a space infantry spacesuit with an exoskeleton and servos. There are none yet (except for the movie "Iron Man" :))))
            In general, I like the battle suit from the movie "Avatar" more. Or Pinocchio from the book "New Elves" Myasoedov. In my opinion, promising systems.
            1. Valery Saitov
              Valery Saitov 19 December 2017 06: 36
              0
              According to Oleg Faustov, the chief designer responsible for the life-support system at the Ratnik-3 enterprise, the new combat equipment will consist of a helmet with an integrated aiming, control and communication system, combat protective overalls, safety shoes, shooting grenade launcher complex and a unique unloading exoskeleton, with which a soldier can carry a load of up to 100 kg. At the same time, the new “Warrior” will retain all the best qualities of its predecessor, who has passed combat tests in Syria.

              “Over the three years of operating the equipment,” said Oleg Faustov, “not a single penetration was recorded. According to the designer, the "Warrior" withstands 10 hits with armor-piercing incendiary bullets fired from a distance of 10 meters from a sniper rifle (SVD - Dragunov sniper rifle. - "NG") - we can say almost point blank. At the same time, the reverse side of the plate remained absolutely smooth, without a single bulge. This means that a soldier protected by a bulletproof vest with such panels will not receive even a concussion injury and will remain combat-ready. It’s clear that the “Ratnik” can also withstand the assault rifle from close range, and with a guarantee.
      2. Disorder
        Disorder 15 December 2017 13: 35
        +1
        Quote: Dead Day
        6th grade. Bulletproof vests of this class must withstand a shot of the OSV-96 or B-94 rifle of 12,7 mm caliber. Cartridge 12,7x108 mm, a bullet with a steel heat-strengthened core. Speed ​​830 m / s, distance 50 meters.

        Well this should be for the armor if 12.7 mm bullets sew 15-20 mm at a hundred meters?
        1. missuris
          missuris 15 December 2017 22: 42
          0
          mm 25 ceramics I think will do, because for 7.62 you need 9-10 mm, for 14.5 45 mm.
        2. PDM80
          PDM80 17 December 2017 06: 36
          +1
          Not bronik can and will not be broken 12.7, but here the insides just explode from kinetic energy
        3. Valery Saitov
          Valery Saitov 19 December 2017 06: 37
          0
          A separate word is about body armor from the Ratnik kit, which are equipped with ceramic-composite armor panels made of a layer of ceramic tile, characterized by high hardness with a relatively low weight, and a composite substrate. The outer ceramic layer effectively destroys the bullet, and the reinforced composite substrate holds its fragments. As standard, the Ratnik-2 body armor weighs a little more than 7 kg, which is significantly less than the weight of its predecessor. There is also an assault complete set of body armor, in which the level of protection is increased to the maximum (sixth) class - bulletproof protection of the side zones and inguinal area is provided. In this case, the weight of the body armor reaches 15 kg. But the most remarkable thing is that the body armor is equipped with an integrated quick-release system, it is put on and removed very easily - just pull the check.
      3. Vlad.by
        Vlad.by 15 December 2017 13: 45
        +6
        after hitting 12,7mm, it looks like the ribs will come out from the back.
        And what's the point that the body armor itself will remain unbroken?
      4. tchoni
        tchoni 15 December 2017 13: 46
        +2
        Where did you get this classification?
      5. Pivot
        Pivot 15 December 2017 15: 05
        +7
        What are we talking about citizens. If hit 7.62 with 50 m, it breaks the ribs if it is in the armor or the neck if in the fancy helmet. 12,7 at the end, it will repel all the insides and the wounded will die from Internal hemorrhage
      6. Krasnodar
        Krasnodar 15 December 2017 15: 33
        +1
        Quote: Dead Day
        Quote: newbie
        some stupidity in the last paragraph. how is it generally possible to save life with a 12,7 bulletproof vest?

        1 class. It must protect the Stechkin pistol (APS) 9x18 mm from the bullet with a steel core (Pst). Bullet speed 345 m / s, distance 5 meters.
        2nd grade. Pistol "Vector" (SR-1), cartridge 9x21 mm, lead bullet at a speed of 400 m / s, distance 5 meters.
        3rd grade. A bulletproof vest of this class should protect against a bullet of a 9x19 mm Yarygin pistol with a steel heat-strengthened core. Bullet speed 455 m / s, distance 5 meters.
        4th grade. It should provide protection against shots from AK-74, a 5,45x39 mm cartridge, a bullet with a steel heat-strengthened core, a bullet speed of 895 m / s, a distance of 10 meters. And also from a shot from AKM, a cartridge of 7,62x39 mm, a bullet with a steel heat-strengthened core, a speed of 720 m / s, a distance of 10 meters.
        5th grade. SVD rifle, cartridge 7,62x54 mm, bullet with a steel heat-strengthened core, speed 830 m / s, distance 10 m.
        6th grade. Bulletproof vests of this class must withstand a shot of the OSV-96 or B-94 rifle of 12,7 mm caliber. Cartridge 12,7x108 mm, a bullet with a steel heat-strengthened core. Speed ​​830 m / s, distance 50 meters.

        The only body armor I know that can withstand 7.62 is ceramic. Withstands at the cost of broken bones, ribs, internal bleeding. When a bullet hits 12,7 ...))))
        Comments are superfluous.
        1. Grandfather
          Grandfather 15 December 2017 16: 14
          0
          Quote: Krasnodar
          The only body armor I know that can withstand 7.62 is ceramic. Withstands at the cost of broken bones, ribs, internal bleeding. When a bullet hits 12,7 ...))))
          Comments are superfluous.

          and ballistic gel filling?
          1. NEXUS
            NEXUS 15 December 2017 19: 06
            +8
            Quote: Dead Day
            and ballistic gel filling?

            How would you more clearly explain something ... now imagine that you are driving in a car at a speed of, say 70 km per hour. And you hit the wall ... three hits happen. The first one is a hit of a car that damps the speed from 70 to 0 per second. The second hit is you beat on the inside of the car, everything that is not screwed in the car flies at you and makes a mince in the cabin (for example, a box of wrenches). And the third blow, the most dangerous, from which people mostly die, is an internal blow of organs against ribs, bones, rupture of tissues, internal hemorrhage. So the bullet does the same for you, only the lesion area is more accented. In other words, whether you’re wearing a gel with a gel, or even with an airbag, the impact of such a bullet flying at 900 m / s will make mincemeat from your entrails, and in the literal sense of the word. And you can’t help with simple aspirin. Due to multiple fractures, damage to internal organs, internal bleeding, you just painfully die in 5-10 minutes.
            1. missuris
              missuris 15 December 2017 22: 45
              0
              hahahaha, they told a horror story)) something guys are blown up in scraps on svu flying dozens of meters into mincemeat do not turn)
              1. NEXUS
                NEXUS 16 December 2017 13: 07
                +3
                Quote: missuris
                hahahaha, they told a horror story)) something guys are blown up in scraps on svu flying dozens of meters into mincemeat do not turn)

                Dress the armor, stand 500 meters away from a sniper with a 12-gauge rifle and let the sniper shoot at your hero’s chest. And then, at your tombstone we’ll talk about who was blown up on what.
              2. tchoni
                tchoni 16 December 2017 23: 15
                +1
                What would you hide - the muzzle energy of a .50 caliber bullet roughly corresponds to the energy of a racehorse in a short race. Now imagine your chances if you have such a horse on your way .....
        2. Lekov L
          Lekov L 15 December 2017 17: 41
          +1
          Countryman, Krasnodar!
          When hit by a bullet 12,7 ...))))
          Comments are superfluous.

          There in your comment)) should be changed to (((or RIP
          Yes! hi
        3. Valery Saitov
          Valery Saitov 19 December 2017 06: 38
          0
          “Over the three years of operating the equipment,” said Oleg Faustov, “not a single penetration was recorded. According to the designer, the "Warrior" withstands 10 hits with armor-piercing incendiary bullets fired from a distance of 10 meters from a sniper rifle (SVD - Dragunov sniper rifle. - "NG") - we can say almost point blank. At the same time, the reverse side of the plate remained absolutely smooth, without a single bulge. This means that a soldier protected by a bulletproof vest with such panels will not receive even a concussion injury and will remain combat-ready. It’s clear that the “Ratnik” can also withstand the assault rifle from close range, and with a guarantee.
      7. APASUS
        APASUS 15 December 2017 20: 23
        0
        Quote: Dead Day
        6th grade. Bulletproof vests of this class must withstand a shot of the OSV-96 or B-94 rifle of 12,7 mm caliber. Cartridge 12,7x108 mm, a bullet with a steel heat-strengthened core. Speed ​​830 m / s, distance 50 meters.

        Who is this class for?
        After getting in, you can go to the toilet with entrails and enjoy being alive
      8. missuris
        missuris 15 December 2017 22: 34
        0
        this is 6br at the end, 6 and 6a 12.7mm did not hold. and yes, if you attach a plate to an exic, even a passive one and move the plate 45 mm forward, then when it hits, it will fade, you will be thrown back, and all the rules)
      9. Ivan Ross
        Ivan Ross 15 December 2017 23: 10
        +1
        The classification that you brought Pts. interesting ... But, as far as I know, the bronik that we classify as class 6 (ala "warrior") in NATO is only 4 class! In general, I did NOT SEE, DO NOT LISTEN TO OR READ ABOUT the existence of plates capable of withstanding 12.7 ... !!! ???
      10. cannabis
        cannabis 16 December 2017 08: 22
        +1
        In order to kill a person, you need to do work equal to 8 kg per meter per second. Now, on a piece of paper, calculate according to the formula what work a 12,7 mm caliber bullet weighing from 48 to 60 grams will fly at a speed of 830 meters per second. The work is equal to the product of force and the product of half mass per square velocity. Well, what are you doing? That's right, about 270 kilograms. All other arguments could not be bothered to read.
      11. Al_lexx
        Al_lexx 16 December 2017 09: 14
        0
        A classmate served in Afghanistan, 79 / 81. I saw what was happening to the man who got two bullets from the DShK. The man scattered into four parts. With a large-caliber sniper, the speed of the bullet will be higher. What vest you don’t wear, you still won’t be saved, as if you were put under a steam hammer. In an extreme case, if it doesn’t break through (although I can’t imagine such a bulletproof vest that is stronger than the armor of an armored personnel carrier that this caliber sews), it will cripple and the fighter is unlikely to recover before half an hour or an hour later. But the latter, this is already from the realm of fantasy. Most likely the ribs will break and they pierced the lungs.
        Well, he himself shot from the DShK, in the same years when he served in air defense in a separate army in Leningrad. We went to Ladoga. Very impressive impact. And it’s just that the earth is shaking, in a radius of 10 meters, when you shoot. Although the tripod is dug in, and several sandbags are suspended, for stability. )))

        In short, 12,7mm is without options.
      12. Lex.
        Lex. 16 December 2017 10: 36
        0
        6th grade. Bulletproof vests of this class must withstand a shot of the OSV-96 or B-94 rifle of 12,7 mm caliber. Cartridge 12,7x108 mm, a bullet with a steel heat-strengthened core. The speed is 830 m / s, the distance is 50 meters. Something I doubt that such a bullet-proof vest from a dshk bullet will withstand and the spine, in any case, sprinkle in one place
      13. hmiland
        hmiland 16 December 2017 12: 59
        +1
        In the case of using 12,7 mm, even if the bullet does not overcome the bulletproof vest, the armored action of the bullet will be fatal, even from 1000 m. hi
    2. katana
      katana 15 December 2017 12: 38
      +6
      Quote: newbie
      some stupidity in the last paragraph. how is it generally possible to save life with a 12,7 bulletproof vest?

      Beginner, are you looking for clever conclusions from the publication of such a garbage American newspaper as National Interest?
      1. newcomer
        newcomer 15 December 2017 12: 48
        +3
        I'm looking for at least some logic in the article, based on my knowledge and experience.
    3. Genry
      Genry 15 December 2017 12: 39
      0
      GOST has a 6th protection class from 12,7mm bullets. But this seems to be based on an exo-skeleton.
      1. Krasnodar
        Krasnodar 15 December 2017 15: 35
        +4
        Quote: Genry
        GOST has a 6th protection class from 12,7mm bullets. But this seems to be based on an exo-skeleton.

        Based on the tank T - 55
        1. Genry
          Genry 15 December 2017 16: 00
          0
          Quote: Krasnodar
          Based on the tank T - 55

          Your thought broke off ....
      2. NEXUS
        NEXUS 16 December 2017 20: 39
        +2
        Quote: Genry
        GOST has a 6th protection class from 12,7mm bullets. But this seems to be based on an exo-skeleton.

        Do you hear yourself? Whatever the armor, the 12th caliber, if it does not pierce it, will cripple so that you turn into an armored bag with bones, torn inside and a full belly and lungs of blood. Ask yourself an elementary question, what will happen to you if a broken rib breaks your lung or heart, for example. No need to be clever, 12 gauge passes armored personnel carrier, and in sniper performance, and if this bullet is armor-piercing, you are very lucky if you die quickly.
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    5. figwam
      figwam 15 December 2017 12: 41
      +1
      Quote: newbie
      some stupidity in the last paragraph. how is it generally possible to save life with a 12,7 bulletproof vest?

      By the way, I also thought about it. Here it is already necessary to develop some kind of exoskeleton with a system of absorption, compensation and abstraction of shock pressures.
      1. Vlad.by
        Vlad.by 15 December 2017 13: 47
        +5
        such an exoskeleton is called a tank.
    6. vkl.47
      vkl.47 15 December 2017 13: 26
      0
      Yes, they just beg for money from Congress, that's all. They are constantly "in danger"
    7. Geisenberg
      Geisenberg 16 December 2017 11: 13
      0
      Quote: newbie
      some stupidity in the last paragraph. how is it generally possible to save life with a 12,7 bulletproof vest?


      Why exactly stupidity? Justify.
  2. Grandfather
    Grandfather 15 December 2017 12: 33
    0
    Media: American body armor will no longer save from the Russian bullet
    checked? "docks" in the studio! I wish a video! yes
    1. Piramidon
      Piramidon 15 December 2017 20: 01
      0
      Quote: Dead Day
      "docks" in the studio!

      Already buried.
  3. pvv113
    pvv113 15 December 2017 12: 33
    +5
    It is unlikely that American warriors, even in bulletproof vests, will go under Russian bullets
    1. Jedi
      Jedi 15 December 2017 12: 38
      +9
      Some kind of bullshit. And who has the armor plates from bullets for cartridges 9.3x64 mm, 8.6x70 mm and 12.7x108 mm? Or am I missing something? request
      1. Sergey53
        Sergey53 15 December 2017 12: 49
        +3
        Not missed, no one has.
      2. CAT BAIYUN
        CAT BAIYUN 15 December 2017 13: 48
        +5
        Good day max hi .
        Some kind of bullshit.

        Strongly agree ....
        1. Jedi
          Jedi 15 December 2017 14: 04
          +4
          Vasya, good afternoon! hi It is enough to look at the source - The National Interest, to understand what either the amateur or the article wrote - an order from the developers of personal protective equipment to allocate money for the development (in other words, “cut”).
  4. Some kind of compote
    Some kind of compote 15 December 2017 12: 33
    16
    Bulletproof vests, as I understand it - do you mean Kevlar ones?
    1. CooL_SnipeR
      CooL_SnipeR 15 December 2017 12: 49
      +3
      Purely kevlavre is civil. The military always has pockets for plates. Kevlar may delay the pistol bullet of a weak caliber, but you will not like the armor action
  5. Monos
    Monos 15 December 2017 12: 43
    +8
    American bulletproof vests will not be able to protect US Army soldiers from the large-caliber Russian rifles ASVK and ASVK-M using ammunition 12,7x108 mm.

    Do they really want to have a bulletproof vest holding 12,7x108 mm? smile Ukrainians have come up with.
    1. Jedi
      Jedi 15 December 2017 12: 47
      +8
      Victor, hi! hi This suit can hold back a bullet (oh?), But will it save it from a compression injury? lol I will not even ask about the mobility of a fighter in such a “shell”.
      1. Monos
        Monos 15 December 2017 13: 04
        +6
        Hello Max! hi
        Quote: Jedi
        This suit can hold back a bullet (oh?), But will it save it from a compression injury?

        smile I stuck a picture for Hochma. Such body armor can only be done on an exoskeleton. And that is not a fact. Saw the door of Trump's car open?
        1. Jedi
          Jedi 15 December 2017 13: 06
          +5
          Quote: Monos
          Saw the door of Trump's car open?

          But yak! wink Yes, without an exoskeleton, you’ll drag such armor out of FIGs, and you also have to shoot.
  6. pofigist_26_rus
    pofigist_26_rus 15 December 2017 12: 46
    +1
    I am more interested in the questions: how much do we produce suitable ammunition? and how many new developments are applied in them?
  7. cannabis
    cannabis 15 December 2017 12: 47
    0
    In fact, why did they bring the bulletproof vest? The main goal for snipers is the head, measuring 25 by 30 cm. At all ranges. Well, yes, yes, and of course surveillance devices, sights, antennas, as without this ...
    1. JD1979
      JD1979 15 December 2017 13: 39
      +1
      Quote: cunning
      The main goal for snipers is the head, measuring 25 by 30 cm. At all ranges.

      Yes Yes. Especially at long distances. there would be a silhouette to get 1-2 shots. And for 12,7, it’s almost violet where you get, well, unless of course in the hand or edge of the foot, there are practically no survivors. On the “tube” there were some hit rollers - tearing the body in half is not uncommon.
      1. cannabis
        cannabis 15 December 2017 13: 53
        0
        And besides YouTube, you had nowhere else to learn about shooting ..... understandably.
        1. missuris
          missuris 15 December 2017 22: 55
          0
          etit, we are not the central security service of the FSB, so that we would be given access to such an infa, even the information on the cat cried, for example, transparent armored ceramics were offered by the Amer military company in 2011, there was almost nothing on the site, they raised this topic in 2015 at the exhibition, on them the site is also almost nothing.
    2. CAT BAIYUN
      CAT BAIYUN 15 December 2017 13: 44
      +6
      The main goal for snipers is the head, measuring 25 by 30 cm. At all ranges.

      Just the same for everyone? Sure? winked
      1. cannabis
        cannabis 15 December 2017 13: 54
        0
        Refute ......
        1. CAT BAIYUN
          CAT BAIYUN 15 December 2017 18: 03
          +7
          Well, first, do not Refute, but refute.
          Please observe etiquette.
          Refute on the topic ... Does personal experience tell you nothing?
          600 heads ... well, try it ... but not in the dash, but in the fields, in the wind or frost, when the snot froze in the nose to the ice and not in the standing, and not in the sitting, on the moving ...
          if you knock 5 out of 5 brandy from me ....
          wassat
          1. cannabis
            cannabis 15 December 2017 18: 17
            0
            Are there several of you? What is 5 out of 5? Some laziness is illegible. Well, when about shooting rules? Interesting damn it! And in the dash only the militia Eras shoot Riot police run from the right embankment to the left “swing pendulum” and scorch over standing plywood for 100 meters. Yes, from Vintorez bullets drive into a black circle, but they do not drive. Well, let's mountain rules, I will take notes.
            1. CAT BAIYUN
              CAT BAIYUN 15 December 2017 18: 30
              +6
              I dare to ask: what smoked? or nibbled? What makes you so sick? would you ... relax or something ... No? It's not meant to be?
              1. cannabis
                cannabis 15 December 2017 18: 40
                0
                I understand that you went through fire training on the Internet. Well, blurted out about the mountain rules, admit your stupidity. No, they start kneading dung.
                1. CAT BAIYUN
                  CAT BAIYUN 15 December 2017 18: 47
                  +6
                  Where did you see at least a word about mountain preparation in my comments? Wake up, my dear. And your dung, as you put it here, no one bothers you with nervousness. Relax or something ... They say it helps.
          2. Valery Saitov
            Valery Saitov 19 December 2017 07: 04
            +1
            It will be more correct 50 out of 5 (meaning the target), and the arrows shoot 30 shots. My best result is 292 out of 30 shots, and the worst 279. And another 50 out of 5 is easy to knock out, but 300 of 30 shots ... I didn’t hear about such.
            1. CAT BAIYUN
              CAT BAIYUN 19 December 2017 09: 26
              +4
              Well, tell me, dear, to a person with a proud nickname "Konoprav" about "the main goals for snipers at all ranges" laughing
              Maybe you are able .. I have not decided
              But, by the way ... in this particular case it makes no sense. Do not waste your time. laughing
    3. Genry
      Genry 15 December 2017 14: 09
      0
      Quote: cunning
      In fact, why did they bring the bulletproof vest? The main goal for snipers is the head, measuring 25 by 30 cm. At all ranges.

      In fact, the term bulletproof vest also means a helmet of the same class.
      1. cannabis
        cannabis 15 December 2017 14: 19
        0
        Is the helmet probably cylindrical, completely covering the head, equipped with TNPO -170 or 350? Then, well, the sniper crawls away .....
      2. PSih2097
        PSih2097 15 December 2017 14: 29
        0
        Quote: Genry
        Quote: cunning
        In fact, why did they bring the bulletproof vest? The main goal for snipers is the head, measuring 25 by 30 cm. At all ranges.

        In fact, the term bulletproof vest also means a helmet of the same class.

        Yes, even the committee titanium Altyn has a 2nd class, where you saw 3-6 classes, if the third one weighs in the region of 3,5-4 kg,
        although information about the experimental steel helmet 3 class BSh-1 developed by the Research Institute of Steel, as well as the assault helmet, as much as the whole 5th grade BShK-5 ("Volcano-5") weighing around 4,5 kg, which was designed at the “Armocom” computer center.
        1. Genry
          Genry 15 December 2017 16: 39
          0
          VOLCANO-5

          PROTECTIVE HELMET

          Protective with a high level of protection "Volcano-5" is intended for use in a set of combat equipment for the purpose of circular protection of the human head from bullets of small arms.

          Main characteristics
          - Br4 helmet body protection class;
          - helmet body protection area 13,0 dm2;
          - the mass of the helmet body 4,5;
          - the protection class was taken - Makarov’s pistol (PM);
          - the protection area took 4,7 dm2;
          - the mass took 1,8 kg.
      3. In100gram
        In100gram 15 December 2017 18: 23
        +1
        Quote: Genry
        helmet of the same class.

        If you hit the helmet will be guaranteed fracture of the cervical vertebrae, not compatible with life
    4. Krasnodar
      Krasnodar 15 December 2017 15: 37
      -1
      Quote: cunning
      In fact, why did they bring the bulletproof vest? The main goal for snipers is the head, measuring 25 by 30 cm. At all ranges. Well, yes, yes, and of course surveillance devices, sights, antennas, as without this ...

      As a rule, snipers do not shoot at the head. Lee Harvey Oswald (if it was he) - unique)))))
      1. Pivot
        Pivot 15 December 2017 22: 16
        0
        Citizens, a sniper and a killer are two different things, something like they drove us to a shooting range for snipers with AK so I did not understand where to hit. And you in the head.
  8. Sergey53
    Sergey53 15 December 2017 12: 48
    0
    So they said they were taking a new cartridge with a new bullet? Which breaks through.
  9. Lena Petrova
    Lena Petrova 15 December 2017 13: 07
    +2
    If you sit across the ocean, then the bullets, of course, will not fly, yes. And if you climb to the very borders, then excuse me.
  10. Genry
    Genry 15 December 2017 13: 09
    +2
    A muddy little article, there are no specific parameters for models of body armor, nor for weapons. It is a question of caliber, but not of the characteristics of a bullet.
    The 9.3x64 mm cartridge does not pull on sniper in any way. The bullet is slow, with poor flatness and quickly losing energy from the flight range. But for hunting a large wild beast is very good.
    The .338LM cartridge (8,6x69,2mm) is optimized for sniper use. It has minimal weight, with high energy and bullet speed. But there are better cartridges, for example 7,62x69 mm, with a more flat trajectory and less bullet deceleration (energy loss) at an average distance.
    For the Russian army, it is advisable to introduce a new machine gun cartridge (under the belt, with an edge) of the type 9x70 mm, with an energy 2 times greater than that of the 7,62x54R, for easel and turret machine guns. This inexpensive cartridge will allow you to confidently deal with infantry in 5th-class bulletproof vests at medium distances and have sufficient ammunition inside the armored vehicles.
    1. alex-cn
      alex-cn 15 December 2017 13: 19
      0
      So 9,3x64 (branneke) was developed as a hunting one ... and the real effective range of fire for them according to all documents is 300m, which in no way attracts sniper requirements.
      1. Genry
        Genry 15 December 2017 13: 37
        0
        So am I about it ...
      2. Dedall
        Dedall 15 December 2017 20: 31
        +1
        I would like to say that in Russia all non-standard calibers are adapted for snipers by turning bullets from brass. He himself saw how one colonel from TsSN stuffed them into the sleeve with a press. But they are only against "soft" targets and the body armor is unlikely to break through.
  11. CAT BAIYUN
    CAT BAIYUN 15 December 2017 13: 47
    +7
    Some kind of academic article ... It is clear that striped dogs "trample down" the budget for themselves ... From 12,7, bronik is better than anything armored and not on wheels. And even that is not a fact ...
  12. san4es
    san4es 15 December 2017 15: 51
    +3
    Having a relatively low weight (6,5 kilograms), the SVDK is capable of penetrating body armor from a distance of 600 meters.
    soldier
  13. razved
    razved 15 December 2017 16: 42
    0
    The National Interest writes that in the USA it was possible to create body armor that withstands hit from sniper rifles Dragunov and SV-98, using 7,62x54 mm ammunition.

    I did not find the article of this publication, but it would be interesting to know from what distance the new bulletproof vest was fired.
  14. seregatara1969
    seregatara1969 15 December 2017 18: 40
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    and a 9 mm caliber mosin rifle - what do you need to wear to survive?
  15. Dedall
    Dedall 15 December 2017 20: 26
    +6
    And gentlemen, I want to tell you one case when a corpse from one ensign formed in our unit. During the trial, it was revealed that while this soldier was alive, he started a dispute that his body armor and he and him would withstand a shot from the AK-74M at point-blank range. But the most interesting thing is that he won the bet and even kept his win with the loser. True, he did not succeed in the hangover morning.
    After long manipulations with individual organs of the deceased, it turned out that the cause of death was a tiny piece of armor that broke off from the inside of the plate. Then he pierced not only the ballistic pillow, but also the abdominal wall along with the uniform. Further, this metal flake passed through a pair of intestines and, at the end, it entered the vena cava. The bleeding that developed after this was the cause of death.
    In the light of this article, we can say that our "pendant" fulfilled its task, allowing us to preserve military efficiency for the period of battle. That's just not able to save life.
    1. Vasya Vassin
      Vasya Vassin 15 December 2017 21: 26
      0
      This I understand, only wild ensign could think of such natural trials!
  16. missuris
    missuris 15 December 2017 22: 31
    0
    Having a relatively small weight (6,5 kilogram), SVDK is able to penetrate body armor from a distance of 600 meters. At the same time, NATO has no sniper systems comparable to the SVDK.
    * you’re kidding. they made 0.408, or 10.3mm, and the recoil with a muzzle brake is normal.
  17. bratchanin3
    bratchanin3 16 December 2017 12: 25
    0
    It is unlikely that the Americans themselves will fight in real reality and, especially, on foreign territory.
  18. Vadim Sh.
    Vadim Sh. 16 December 2017 18: 02
    +3
    I’ll say as a person who was taught for 5 years at a university and another 15 years of work in this industry, that from a 12.7 x 108 mm bullet to an NSV 12.7 Utes machine gun and NSVT (his tank modification), it’s what this SV was developed for today when defending a class, a bulletproof vest is NO, not a single person can withstand such a dynamic blow. I don’t take a tangent hit (the consequences will be very difficult), and with a direct one, it’s ridiculous to discuss it at all.