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CNN: American fighters were raised to intercept Russian aircraft in the sky over Syria

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CNN: American fighters were raised to intercept Russian aircraft in the sky over Syria



Two US Air Force F-22 fighters were raised to intercept two Russian combat aircraft in the sky over Syria near the Euphrates River. This was reported on Thursday by CNN, citing two US military representatives, reports TASS.

According to her, the incident occurred on Wednesday. According to CNN, Russian combat aircraft crossed the border of the de-escalation zone, and American fighters gave a few warning lights.

According to one American representative, the television company noted, the Russian Su-35 fighter was also in the area. According to the American representative, the issue of this incident was discussed on the line of communication designed to prevent air incidents in the skies over Syria.

Incident Prevention and Safety Memorandum aviation during operations in Syria was concluded on October 20, 2015 between the defense ministries of Russia and the United States and entered into force on the same day. The conclusion of this agreement was caused by the need to take measures to minimize the risks of incidents between aircraft of the Russian Federation and the international coalition led by the United States over the territory of Syria.
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  1. Aristarkh Lyudvigovich
    Aristarkh Lyudvigovich 14 December 2017 21: 14 New
    41
    But our pilots drove them away, showing a banner with the size of the US foreign debt.
    1. Going
      Going 14 December 2017 21: 18 New
      29
      It seems that their SU - 35 shuganul when they saw him, immediately faded.
      1. Masya masya
        Masya masya 14 December 2017 21: 21 New
        37
        "partners" do not want to concede the sky, our task is to throw them from there ...
        1. Scoun
          Scoun 14 December 2017 21: 27 New
          20
          Quote: Masya Masya
          "partners" do not want to concede the sky,

          Well, it infuriates us, then we are invited there, but these dodges blink to us ....

          According to CNN, Russian warplanes crossed the border of the de-escalation zone, and American fighters gave off several warning lights.

          IMHA.
          We should have blinked with air defense means, if not, then electronic warfare, because electronic warfare is also on airplanes.
          1. AKC
            AKC 14 December 2017 22: 00 New
            +8
            Quote: Scoun
            IMHA.
            We should have blinked with air defense means, if not, then electronic warfare, because electronic warfare is also on airplanes

            electronic warfare is a weapon, their activation is equivalent to the use of weapons - missiles, cannons and other arsenal of firing.
            1. Thrall
              Thrall 15 December 2017 00: 44 New
              +9
              It would not hurt to put those who write such headers on VO in one place into one place (in the USB connector) ... No.
              1. Mih1974
                Mih1974 15 December 2017 04: 19 New
                +7
                I support, moreover, it will fly into someone else’s airspace or a dodgy landing at local airdromes with subsequent “debriefing” or knocking it down without debriefing !! Who who is there unauthorized flies in the sky of Syria we or mattresses? Ah - mattresses, well Toda - they are OUTSIDE the law and they can and should be planted or knocked down !! And if after that they “uncover the weapons” - then they are the Aggressor and they can and should be killed everywhere !! And we don’t need here (I’m not you and all the liberals) to call **** about "are you not afraid of war with the US nuclear superpower?" The answer is that in 1941 we were “afraid” and were afraid until 1945, if fate so decides, then we will be “afraid” of the United States, but we will fight until our red flush develops over the ruins (even if radioactive) of the VoshObcom. good
            2. Tatar 174
              Tatar 174 15 December 2017 12: 47 New
              +2
              Quote: AKC
              electronic warfare is a weapon, their activation is equivalent to the use of weapons - missiles, cannons and other arsenal of firing.

              According to Cook, they used nothing, for that they are now afraid. You should not be afraid of them, you must respond adequately to arrogance.
          2. sabakina
            sabakina 14 December 2017 22: 13 New
            +7
            Roman WHEN OUR ON THE ROADS ARE BLINKING BACK, SUCH begins .....
            1. opus
              opus 14 December 2017 23: 12 New
              15
              Quote: sabakina
              WHEN OUR ON THE ROADS BEHIND BEHIND, SUCH begins .....

              our on the roads is very emotional.

              Shl. I'm looking forward to when F-22 (or a couple better) will fill up MIG-29SMT

              but for Hochma (even better if it is SU-24)


              let the debt be paid for the Turks
              1. Falcon5555
                Falcon5555 15 December 2017 01: 57 New
                +4
                This is what he performed ... laughing laughing laughing
          3. x.andvlad
            x.andvlad 14 December 2017 22: 23 New
            +4
            Quote: Scoun
            Well, it infuriates us, then we are invited there, but these dodges blink to us ....

            Either they blink, or they don’t quite blink. On the next branch, what they write:"American fighter F-22 opened warning fire after two Russian Su-25 aircraft entered the agreed no-fly zone east of the Euphrates River in Syria .... "https://warfiles.ru/170352-stolknovenie-v-siriysk
            oy-nebe-para-f-22-vydavila-rossiyskie-samolety.ht
            ml?utm_source=topwar.ru&utm_medium=picture_of
            _day
            So, there is no complete information on this incident yet.
            1. sabakina
              sabakina 14 December 2017 22: 30 New
              +7
              https://warfiles.ru/170352-stolknovenie-v-siriysk
              oy-nebe-para-f-22-vydavila-rossiyskie-samolety.ht
              ml?utm_source=topwar.ru&utm_medium=picture_of
              _day

              I am tormented by vague doubts that this is not a completely neighboring branch of VO ...
            2. poquello
              poquello 14 December 2017 22: 39 New
              +2
              Quote: x.andvlad
              there is no complete information on this incident yet.

              The municipality said - delirium, the likelihood of delirium is IMHO high, for it has already seen several propaganda stuffing of the United States, such as the Ishilovites walking along the territory of Syria-controlled territory, etc., next to the in-tanf.
              but there are really problems with information on Syria, a lot of things are written and everything else
              1. Viktor.12.71
                Viktor.12.71 15 December 2017 08: 36 New
                +1
                Quote: poquello
                type igilovtsy next to in-tanf walk in Syria-controlled territory, etc.

                This is not a stuffing, because the igil in the rear of the SAA was known a couple of months ago, small mosquito groups bring quite a few problems, the ammunition depot will be demolished for example, or shelling will begin in Damascus.
                1. poquello
                  poquello 15 December 2017 18: 44 New
                  +1
                  Quote: Viktor.12.71
                  This is not a stuffing, because the igil in the rear of the SAA was known a couple of months ago, small mosquito groups bring quite a few problems,

                  and the Americans suddenly noticed them
                  1. Viktor.12.71
                    Viktor.12.71 15 December 2017 19: 59 New
                    +1
                    Quote: poquello
                    and the Americans suddenly noticed them

                    They were a long time ago.
        2. ando_bor
          ando_bor 14 December 2017 21: 35 New
          +5
          Quote: Masya Masya
          "partners" do not want to concede the sky, our task is to throw them from there ...

          Our task is to break their system of global dominance and it has been completed, now anyone can send Amprikans, fly with a second to Russia and there will be nothing from the Americans. And before, anyone who obeyed them was destroyed in any way, with the help of ISIS, by a coup, Turkey went a bonus.
          And they are chasing after their planes - they have the same nuclear bomb.
          1. sabakina
            sabakina 14 December 2017 22: 15 New
            10
            Quote: ando_bor
            And they are chasing after their planes - they have the same nuclear bomb.

            And what? I ask and what next?
        3. Anarchist
          Anarchist 14 December 2017 21: 38 New
          14
          It is advisable to bury!
          On the neck ...
          1. Going
            Going 14 December 2017 22: 05 New
            +8
            Better on the ankles, but upside down.
          2. CAT BAIYUN
            CAT BAIYUN 14 December 2017 22: 57 New
            +6
            It is advisable to bury!
            On the neck ...

            No. If buried, then waist and top doused with alabaster. Well, what would not be spent on a monument.
        4. sabakina
          sabakina 14 December 2017 22: 10 New
          12
          Quote: Masya Masya
          "partners" do not want to concede the sky, our task is to throw them from there ...

          Marinochka, that’s what I respect for, for gentleness and wit! love
          1. Masya masya
            Masya masya 14 December 2017 22: 20 New
            11
            Vyacheslav, howdy there! love You flatter me... repeat it's not me ... it's the maestro! Paraphrased a little ... repeat
            1. sabakina
              sabakina 14 December 2017 22: 26 New
              16
              Marina, in our age, remember the quote Maestro is already a feat! Although for us it is a routine. I don’t have a funny picture, I’ll show a terrible one! For them ... Our kittens are the most fearless!
              1. Masya masya
                Masya masya 14 December 2017 22: 41 New
                +7
                Quote: sabakina
                Our kittens are the most fearless

                So there is someone ... lol
                Russians are just damn psychos. I would not want to fight against such.
                wink
        5. novel66
          novel66 15 December 2017 07: 32 New
          +4
          Good morning! love , straight not Masya, but the Maestro! laughing tongue
          1. Masya masya
            Masya masya 15 December 2017 07: 42 New
            +5
            Hello, Roman! love
            1. novel66
              novel66 15 December 2017 09: 27 New
              +3
              it is the new day, new worries. although .... FRIDAY!
      2. Anarchist
        Anarchist 14 December 2017 21: 23 New
        15
        Also, somewhere in the morning, I read ... It seems like they were draping like crazy, as soon as the su-35 appeared! And one fighter against them 2 ... The fifth generation and since there were two commas then 10 generation against 4 + +
        1. Solomon Kane
          Solomon Kane 14 December 2017 21: 43 New
          13
          Sanya! hi As with Donald Cook - the entire crew urinated, sensing the radar of the Bastion ......
          As US-aces sensed the cold breath of Sukhoi radar, calls began via special communications ....
          According to the American representative, the issue of this incident was discussed through a communication line designed to prevent air incidents in the sky over Syria.

          Nahai with a parachute diapers will be captured ....
          1. Anarchist
            Anarchist 14 December 2017 22: 02 New
            11
            Kostya, hi!
            Quote: Solomon Kane

            Nahai with a parachute diapers will be captured ....

            Man, they don’t take them off at all in Syria! Is that only change ... And often change bully
      3. solzh
        solzh 14 December 2017 21: 29 New
        +2
        This incident you mentioned happened on November 23rd. There really is our su-35 suganan American. Here is a link to the news of December 9, https://m.lenta.ru/news/2017/12/09/pomeha/
        1. Shironay
          Shironay 14 December 2017 22: 12 New
          +9
          Guys do not waste your eloquence. All progressive mankind already knows that Americans are cowardly and stupid, Russian pilots and soldiers are the best in the world, and the F-22 and F-35 are not suited not only for the Su-57, but also for the SU-35.
          1. figwam
            figwam 14 December 2017 22: 31 New
            +3
            Now the game of nerves will begin in the sky and I am sure that all this will end with a clash, after which either one of the parties will recede or we will see the conflict escalate.
          2. Going
            Going 14 December 2017 22: 33 New
            +5
            Where did you read this here?
          3. opus
            opus 15 December 2017 01: 20 New
            +3
            Quote: Shiryonay
            that Americans are cowardly and stupid,

            Well, this is not true (I read it with pleasure, although it is a dreary, it looks like Enigma)
            Russian pilots and soldiers are the best in the world

            at the moment no one checked maybe
            Quote: Shiryonay
            and F-22 and F-35 are not suited for sole paper not only for Su-57, but also for SU-35.

            Su-57 not yet, Su-35 no combat statistics. Anything can be
            Here you are "chignon" / Siryonay /

            do you think so yourself?
            Threat (repeat) colonel familiar from Finländska flygvapnet told me
            these jews


            my head went round, at God's chosen people
            and with whom they fought?
            with the Arabs ... well, well
            / Of course it was all in Finnish, sorry, I DON'T REMEMBER, like that
            Näitä juutalaisia ​​täydennetään ja he saavat täydellisesti pizdulaa
        2. sabakina
          sabakina 14 December 2017 22: 19 New
          +5
          You are confused. Then our SU-35 later drew, this time he accompanied.
          1. solzh
            solzh 14 December 2017 22: 24 New
            0
            Perhaps I mixed it up, I won’t argue. I just read the news on tape.ru, but there was no news that the SU-35 drove away the amers. hi
            1. sabakina
              sabakina 14 December 2017 22: 32 New
              +4
              Watch the news on VO. We examined that case.
              1. Solomon Kane
                Solomon Kane 15 December 2017 00: 48 New
                +3
                Glory! hi A solid fake - an article with CCN and Reuters is licked one into one, essentially:
                4280
                Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation:
                From a Defense Department report: “Certain American and British media are once again trying to pass off wishful thinking. On December 13, a pair of Su-25 attack aircraft at an altitude of 3300 meters escorted a humanitarian convoy in the area of ​​Mayadin (western bank of the Euphrates River). From the east coast, an American F-22 fighter approached them. Firing heat traps, the F-22 interfered with a pair of Russian Su-25s. Performing an air cover task at an altitude of 10 meters, the Russian Su-000S fighter quickly approached the F-35 from the rear hemisphere, after which the American fighter left the area. "

                Earlier, CNN, citing military sources, reported that two US Air Force F-22s were raised to intercept two Russian combat aircraft in the sky above the SAR. Pentagon spokesman Erin Pahon
          2. Solomon Kane
            Solomon Kane 15 December 2017 01: 00 New
            +3
            Glory! Handsome, as if looking into the water - the Su-35 worked with attack aircraft, but at the level of 10 m.
            Good work without cover, the Turks "taught" ....
      4. Gale
        Gale 14 December 2017 21: 37 New
        +1
        this time shuganuli drying ..
        US Air Force planes in Syrian airspace were intercepted by Russian Su-25 attack aircraft. It is reported by The Independent.
        According to an unnamed U.S. official, U.S. Air Force F-22 fighters fired several false thermal targets (reminiscent of signal flares) after Russian Su-25 aircraft violated an agreed flight area designed to prevent unintended incidents. After warning, Russian planes left the area
        1. Paranoid50
          Paranoid50 14 December 2017 22: 20 New
          +4
          Quote: GaLe
          this time

          Yeah, Independent ... they also reported a "warning fire", allegedly opened by mattresses. Well, it’s necessary to make a “response” news. And, most importantly, quickly so. yes She-bo, as small children.
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        1. sabakina
          sabakina 14 December 2017 22: 20 New
          +5
          Fedya, I do not understand. who drove whom you?
          1. Going
            Going 14 December 2017 22: 34 New
            +5
            Vyacheslav hi it seems like little friday has begun ...
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      6. Nyrobsky
        Nyrobsky 14 December 2017 22: 38 New
        +3
        Quote: Going
        It seems that their SU - 35 shuganul when they saw him, immediately faded.

        Not that case. Then their “flea” prevented our videoconferencing from fulfilling the b / task of fulfilling the goals of the Ishilovites by releasing heat traps, and then ours entered the de-escalation zone. Only in some sources they say that the mattresses opened warning fire, in others they write about warning light signals. We are waiting for our Defense Ministry to officially comment.
        1. Hoc vince
          Hoc vince 15 December 2017 00: 00 New
          +1
          22:30 14.12. The Russian Ministry of Defense has denied reports of "interception" by US fighters of two Russian attack aircraft in the airspace over the eastern coast of the Euphrates.
          1. Nyrobsky
            Nyrobsky 15 December 2017 00: 10 New
            +2
            Quote: Hoc vince
            22:30 14.12. The Russian Ministry of Defense has denied reports of "interception" by US fighters of two Russian attack aircraft in the airspace over the eastern coast of the Euphrates.

            Yes, already in the know. hi
      7. igorka357
        igorka357 15 December 2017 03: 37 New
        0
        I don’t understand, patriotism and all that, and our weapons are really good! But what would the SU-35 which 4 ++ shuganul two F-22s which are five .. well, don’t tell my slippers, it’s just an incident exhausted without having begun, and ours would have done the same!
      8. siberalt
        siberalt 15 December 2017 06: 29 New
        0
        Su-35 suganul amer earlier, when he drove off the F-16 from our pair of stormtroopers.
    2. Hunter
      Hunter 14 December 2017 21: 18 New
      12
      The hardest part begins .. The devils were soaked, now their owners have appeared!
      Well, men continue to work ..
      1. maiman61
        maiman61 14 December 2017 21: 30 New
        +4
        The devils are soaked, now the main Devils have appeared!
        1. Going
          Going 14 December 2017 22: 06 New
          +6
          Quote: maiman61
          The devils are soaked, now the main Devils have appeared!


          You have correctly noticed, now the most important thing begins.
      2. Gale
        Gale 14 December 2017 21: 42 New
        +4
        The hardest part begins .. The devils were soaked, now their owners have appeared!
        Well, men continue to work ..

        Tipo offer amers now to wet in Syria?
        this is not a bomb for you Papuans to bomb, then a tough little answer will immediately arrive, after which it will be difficult to save your face, so reduce your ardor)
        1. poquello
          poquello 14 December 2017 22: 43 New
          +1
          Quote: GaLe
          The hardest part begins .. The devils were soaked, now their owners have appeared!
          Well, men continue to work ..

          Tipo offer amers now to wet in Syria?
          this is not a bomb for you Papuans to bomb, then a tough little answer will immediately arrive, after which it will be difficult to save your face, so reduce your ardor)

          yeah, 52 tamahawk))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
        2. sabakina
          sabakina 14 December 2017 23: 00 New
          +4
          Quote: GaLe
          this is not a bomb for you Papuans to bomb, then a tough little answer will immediately arrive, after which it will be difficult to save your face, so reduce your ardor)

          leaflets were of such content "Dear ladies, do not dig dimples, anyway our dimples will pass through these dimples».

          Somewhere it already sounded ... Near Moscow, it seems, in the 41st ...
        3. zoolu350
          zoolu350 15 December 2017 03: 46 New
          0
          The offer is good. All honestly. Cutting the crowd to the crowd is our way. It is a pity that the oligarchy of the Russian Federation will immediately bend under the owners of the Fed.
      3. Ragnar Lodbrok
        Ragnar Lodbrok 14 December 2017 22: 45 New
        +5
        Quote: Hunter
        Well, men continue to work ..

        You yes! There is no end of work ... Just to get off the sofa wassat and the Americans themselves will fly apart!
    3. prosto_rgb
      prosto_rgb 14 December 2017 23: 22 New
      +1
      Quote: Aristarkh Lyudvigovich
      But our pilots drove them away, showing a banner with the size of the US foreign debt.

      And from behind the forest from behind the mountains A man showed an ax.
      And not just showed: he tied Him to%?%!
    4. amirbek
      amirbek 15 December 2017 10: 01 New
      0
      Quote: Aristarkh Ludwigovich
      CNN: American fighters were raised to intercept Russian aircraft in the sky over Syria

      and how the current is given to the military will be kept secret by the military secret when they see on the old radar 2 off transponders
    5. Kent0001
      Kent0001 15 December 2017 10: 40 New
      0
      Their external debt is only 105% of GDP. For them, it was more significant that our fighter jumped out from behind and waved its wings to the Junkers showing weapons on the external suspension. These two went to the afterburner of cars away from sin.
  2. PN
    PN 14 December 2017 21: 16 New
    +6
    and the American fighters gave out some warning lights
    I mean, distant blinked?
    1. Aristarkh Lyudvigovich
      Aristarkh Lyudvigovich 14 December 2017 21: 26 New
      +2
      They shot heat traps, released brake flaps and simulated aerial combat, waved the American flag, threw bottles fellow
    2. sabakina
      sabakina 14 December 2017 22: 40 New
      +5
      Quote: PN
      [i] I mean, distant blinked?

      Yeah, like there further on the OSCE with a radar! laughing
  3. rruvim
    rruvim 14 December 2017 21: 18 New
    +1
    Where is the F-22 from? He only has a boost for 500 miles. How could they even be there? From which airdrome?
    1. Alex777
      Alex777 14 December 2017 22: 00 New
      +5
      They have been there for a long time. So don’t worry.
      It seems to me that part of our troops was returned, because a new mess in the Donbass is planned. And there isn’t enough strength for everything at once ... hi
    2. san4es
      san4es 14 December 2017 22: 08 New
      +5
      Quote: rruvim
      Where is the F-22 from? He only has a boost for 500 miles. How could they even be there? From which airdrome?

      ... from Tel Aviv puffed up am
      ... Just 700km to the river (for acceleration) fellow

      recourse ... Or maybe from Kuwait
  4. filatik
    filatik 14 December 2017 21: 19 New
    +1
    What is this? As if in my own land
  5. solzh
    solzh 14 December 2017 21: 20 New
    +7
    America took and created its airspace in Syria without coordinating its actions with anyone. As always. And we again, after the Amer slap in the face, turn the other cheek. One gets the feeling that the US is beginning to force us out of Syria.
    1. Don
      Don 14 December 2017 22: 20 New
      +1
      Quote: solzh
      America took and created its airspace in Syria without coordinating its actions with anyone.

      Not really, the consensus was that ours would not go into the territories that the Western coalition had conquered, and the Americans would not go to those liberated by pro-Assad forces in order to prevent the possibility of a direct conflict. So, pushing them out of there without offering something in return will fail.
      1. solzh
        solzh 14 December 2017 22: 29 New
        0
        Quote: Donskoy
        ousting them from there without offering something in return will fail.

        In other words, the division of Syria into two, and taking into account the Kurds, into three independent states?
      2. sabakina
        sabakina 14 December 2017 22: 42 New
        +5
        As I understand it, we did not promise not to hooligan ...
      3. zoolu350
        zoolu350 15 December 2017 03: 49 New
        0
        Quote: Donskoy
        So, pushing them out of there without offering something in return will fail.

        It will turn out, but not with the oligarchy of the Russian Federation, which always bends under the owners of the Fed.
  6. rruvim
    rruvim 14 December 2017 21: 22 New
    0
    Maybe something mixed up CNN ... F-22 is a heavy aircraft, certainly not for the Middle East theater. Maybe they confused with the new modifications of the F-35?
    1. rruvim
      rruvim 14 December 2017 21: 24 New
      0
      The photo is exactly the 22nd. But I can’t even understand where they can come from in the east of Syria?
      1. voyaka uh
        voyaka uh 14 December 2017 21: 46 New
        +5
        They have been there for more than two years.
        1. rruvim
          rruvim 14 December 2017 21: 50 New
          0
          Warrior! Do you believe that?
          1. voyaka uh
            voyaka uh 14 December 2017 22: 03 New
            +3
            I was mistaken - more than 2 years. The first combat use of the F-22 in Syria was back in 2014.
            He bombed a building, some ISIS warehouse, in the Raqqi region.
            https://foxtrotalpha.jalopnik.com/the-f-22-raptor
            -finally-bloodies-its-talons-in-attack-o-16379841
            59
            1. rruvim
              rruvim 14 December 2017 22: 11 New
              0
              Warrior! Your link is again not convincing. Tell me, where are the F-22s based on the Middle East theater? Right now, not three years ago. After all, there should be a simple answer to a simple question.
              1. voyaka uh
                voyaka uh 14 December 2017 22: 20 New
                +1
                Solzh answered you.
    2. solzh
      solzh 14 December 2017 21: 40 New
      +6
      Al-Dhafra Air Base in the UAE. They seem to have been deployed there since 2013. They even wrote about this at VO. Here is the link https://topwar.ru/34073-ssha-perebrosili-istrebit
      eli-f-22-na-blizhniy-vostok.html
      1. rruvim
        rruvim 14 December 2017 21: 52 New
        0
        They wrote. But quite unconvincing! Just read everything carefully!
      2. rruvim
        rruvim 14 December 2017 22: 05 New
        +1
        F-22s can show the United Arab Emirates, but there is Washington state law that F-22s can only be deployed and serviced at accredited bases. Outside of them is full, for example, Okinawa. And if the F-22 just sat in the UAE - it means nothing! The F-22 is not just a plane, it is a very expensive plane, very ... very .. very expensive. Each pilot is controlled by the GRU, even, as he writes, and what wine he drinks. But even with this information, no one knows how the algorithms of its software are laid on seemingly old motherboards. Therefore, they do not sell it. Sell ​​the neutered version - F-35 /
        1. voyaka uh
          voyaka uh 14 December 2017 22: 48 New
          +1
          "Each pilot is controlled by the GRU, even, as he writes, and what wine he drinks." ////

          I liked this joke good
          1. rruvim
            rruvim 14 December 2017 22: 55 New
            +3
            I'm not kidding! This is the work of any intelligence. Normal work, pay a salary for this. For example, I know who flew you on Phantom 4E from the Ein Shemer airbase on October 7, 1973.
            1. voyaka uh
              voyaka uh 14 December 2017 23: 21 New
              +1
              Did you get paid in 1973? belay
  7. rruvim
    rruvim 14 December 2017 21: 32 New
    +3
    In general, TASS transmits a CNN message. Even Trump doesn't believe CNN! And here we seem to understand, as it were, TTX of some products we believe in this? F-22? And over the Euphrates? I do not believe!
    1. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 14 December 2017 22: 07 New
      +2
      Why only over Euphrates? They fly over all of Syria, and for a long time. Even before the entry of the VKS and Russian troops. Mostly intelligence. Sometimes patrolling, rarely bombing.
      1. rruvim
        rruvim 14 December 2017 22: 14 New
        0
        F-22s? The fact that there flies is already clear. Are you sure that there are F-22s present. Every day, as you assure. And from which air base?
      2. rruvim
        rruvim 14 December 2017 22: 22 New
        0
        Do you even understand that we have been “chasing” for several years so that our EW stations record telemetry AFAR with F-22. And you want to say that this product quietly flew over our positions?
        1. Kelwin
          Kelwin 15 December 2017 01: 14 New
          +2
          rruvim, call, not in the subject, but. And hypothetically, how quickly can we apply telemetry data in practice, these are months or years?
      3. sabakina
        sabakina 14 December 2017 22: 45 New
        +4
        Quote: voyaka uh
        Why only over Euphrates? They fly over all of Syria, and for a long time. Even before the entry of the VKS and Russian troops. Mostly intelligence. Sometimes patrolling, rarely bombing.

        What ??? And over Khmeinin ???? You say yes do not speak!
      4. Vlad.by
        Vlad.by 14 December 2017 23: 18 New
        0
        And when f-22 began to work on the ground? What and what bombed?
        1. voyaka uh
          voyaka uh 15 December 2017 00: 23 New
          +2
          In 2014 and started. They tested new "small diameter bombs" on the ISIS target in Syria.
      5. dvvv
        dvvv 14 December 2017 23: 30 New
        +1
        Warrior! You always know everything! What the heck?!! For two years now, the Russians and the amers have been rubbing themselves together and seen enough and set their minds on how much they wanted. All Russian scouts there flew Tu-204, Il-18, A-50, not to mention others. The S-400 has already been irradiating and measuring the F-22 for various angles. I think the F-35 Jewish also appeared there, good with the Russians they have peace and brotherhood. What does it say, even though there are rumors, how does the invisibility shine on the S-400 on the screens? How do invisibles appear to Russians? Has nobody written anything yet? Why wait for the Indians, who have not seen the S-2 for 400 more years). Maybe everyone and everyone knows there and there are no secrets? the Moroccans wanted the S-400 again ... and the Saudis ate the Patriots and went to Moscow and the Turks didn’t retreat ... Maybe the Russians are sending skin shots from radars for advertising purposes or calling to see?)
  8. Reserve buildbat
    Reserve buildbat 14 December 2017 21: 36 New
    +5
    For some reason, the title of the note was associated with the "1944 news of the year" "German fighters were raised to intercept Soviet aircraft in the sky of Poland" ...
    1. rruvim
      rruvim 14 December 2017 21: 48 New
      +3
      The year 1944 was stretched. If at the beginning, then one thing! If in December 1944, then something else. German fighters were gone. And all that remained supported the group in the Ardennes. It's just that the F-22 is a very difficult aircraft to maintain, and there were only 200 of them. On the "wing" is likely no more than 80. Behind each “board” it is necessary to drag 30 people with wagons, having spare engines. There are no such airdromes in the Middle East theater that could service this “product”. Most likely, CNN meant the usual (latest) modifications of the F-16. but somehow gave them away for the F-22. And TASS copied it.
      1. Reserve buildbat
        Reserve buildbat 14 December 2017 21: 58 New
        +6
        If anything, I meant that the invaders were outraged by the actions of the liberators.
  9. LPD17
    LPD17 14 December 2017 21: 44 New
    +3
    there is no Wagner PMC in the air ........


    therefore, taming am it is better to shut up and see
    to drain
    same as the second olympiad in a row
  10. seacap
    seacap 14 December 2017 21: 48 New
    +4
    It is not clear what Americans have set up such no-fly zones over Syria, and why not ours for Amers? What the hell did they start to take the victory results again? They already pulled up, fight, shed blood, achieve victory, but in the end they give everything to someone and when they finally learn to protect and defend their interests, is it really impossible, clearly and categorically, to say that our skies over all Syria and everyone who snoops in there will be shot down without warning, no one will dare to check, and to enter air Border patrols. How many snots can you mumble and wipe? They don’t understand normal relations, and they are afraid of fights before anuresis.
    1. zoolu350
      zoolu350 15 December 2017 03: 56 New
      0
      All you say is normal logic, for normal government. But in Russia there is an oligarchy that will hand over anyone and anything at the slightest danger to their personal money in Western banks and children in Yale.
  11. Rostislav
    Rostislav 14 December 2017 21: 51 New
    +2
    When will all these hoopoes get okorot?
    As our troops began to withdraw, they are trying to enter the closed zones in the sky of Syria, the macaques are unfinished.
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  13. sabakina
    sabakina 14 December 2017 22: 06 New
    +4
    According to CNN, Russian warplanes crossed the border of the de-escalation zone, and American fighters gave off several warning lights.
    Interesting, but how was it really? Z.Y. SU-35 campaign from the very beginning covered.
    1. Going
      Going 14 December 2017 22: 36 New
      +5
      But at first he was on the sidelines and was not highlighted.
    2. rruvim
      rruvim 14 December 2017 22: 47 New
      +1
      Yes, this is CNN crap. The SU-25 front-line attack aircraft has one speed and altitude, the SU-35 fighter is completely different, and the F-22 has overdrive without afterburner. Here TASS with a link to CNN would be better written MIG-31 drove A-10 in the sky above Ephrat. That would have all neighing !!! Maybe someone did not laugh: answer but the MIG-31 develops supersonic speed only at afterburner and at a temperature of "-31". And the F-22 is imprisoned for supersonic without afterburner, but it will fly all over Syria, no one our attack aircraft will even notice ...
      1. sabakina
        sabakina 14 December 2017 23: 06 New
        +5
        No, well, if the A-10 rises by 20 km ... Why don’t you neigh?
        1. rruvim
          rruvim 14 December 2017 23: 30 New
          +1
          The conversation was about 10 kilometers. The phrase "Su-25 dragged 3 km, F-22 dragged after him, then appeared SU-35S from ten kilometers, went into the rear hemisphere F-22. It is just not clear, he trudged behind SU-25 at an altitude of 3,5 kilometers And where is 10 km? Then he began to shoot towards the SU-35S, which was dragging seven kilometers above this cavalcade, heat traps, which F-22 had no time like ... What kind of nonsense?
          1. jonht
            jonht 15 December 2017 01: 20 New
            +2
            Based on your logic, the F-22 sits on supersonic?
            Any aircraft has at least three speed modes: 1-landing, 2-cruising, 3-boost. And the speed there is not fixed ....
  14. VeteranVSSSR
    VeteranVSSSR 14 December 2017 22: 08 New
    -1
    Quote: Rostislav
    When will all these hoopoes get okorot?
    As our troops began to withdraw, they are trying to enter the closed zones in the sky of Syria, the macaques are unfinished.

    Macaques macaques, but as if the chief commander didn’t start apologizing, like a star on the wings we paint over, and we will fly where you say ...
    Sorry, nothing personal, but an example already exists ...
  15. Troll
    Troll 14 December 2017 22: 14 New
    +2
    Figs knows what was really there. Fake news. Maybe this is just the case that Russian officials recently spoke about. faces
  16. rruvim
    rruvim 14 December 2017 22: 28 New
    0
    If this really happened, then thanks to Trump for downloading the specs from the AF-F-22. And then everyone tried, tried. And they all “betrayed” this! Only I do not believe in it! In the best case, there were "Needles" of the V-th series ...
    1. poquello
      poquello 14 December 2017 22: 51 New
      +1
      Quote: rruvim
      If this really happened, then thanks to Trump for downloading the specs from the AF-F-22. And then everyone tried, tried. And they all “betrayed” this! Only I do not believe in it! In the best case, there were "Needles" of the V-th series ...

      and where did they get what they tried?
      1. rruvim
        rruvim 14 December 2017 23: 04 New
        +2
        They tried. But not one F-22 did not “hit”, they even tried in Japan, the Chinese spotted them in Taiwan. Even at international air shows, they have never exhibited this product. There were simplified versions, and that’s it! But they did not sell their native F-22 to anyone! Strange, isn't it? They also kept secret all the Lockheed programmers.
        1. poquello
          poquello 14 December 2017 23: 22 New
          +1
          Quote: rruvim
          They tried. But not one F-22 did not “hit”, they even tried in Japan, the Chinese spotted them in Taiwan. Even at international air shows, they have never exhibited this product. There were simplified versions, and that’s it! But they did not sell their native F-22 to anyone! Strange, isn't it? They also kept secret all the Lockheed programmers.

          Well, firstly, you did not answer, secondly, the Su35 did drive f22, and thirdly, what for ours for such a task is just intimate proximity with our equipment
  17. Yoshi
    Yoshi 14 December 2017 22: 40 New
    0
    Interestingly, how many “phantoms” were shot down in air battles? And the "Sushke" and "Migov" And what kind of comparative raid do some have? Of course, everything can be corrected over time ...
    1. sabakina
      sabakina 14 December 2017 23: 09 New
      +4
      If you are a spy, then to you at the General Staff. Here only some grandmothers say.
  18. dvvv
    dvvv 14 December 2017 22: 51 New
    +1
    The Defense Ministry said that on Wednesday, December 13, a pair of Su-25 attack aircraft at an altitude of 3,3 thousand meters escorted a humanitarian convoy in the area of ​​Mayadin (western bank of the Euphrates River).

    “From the eastern bank of the river, an American F-22 fighter approached them. By firing heat traps, the F-22 interfered with a pair of Russian Su-25s, ”the department said.

    The Russian Su-35S, which performed air cover tasks at an altitude of 10 thousand meters, quickly approached the F-22 from the back hemisphere, after which the American fighter left the area, they added to the Ministry of Defense. --- https://vz.ru/news/2017/12/14/899681.html
    1. rruvim
      rruvim 14 December 2017 23: 11 New
      0
      That is why I love our military (if they really told the press) for their non-depilation and confidence. Well, what are the F-22 heat traps? It is imprisoned for supersonic, all the equipment and weapons in the "belly", there is even nowhere to hang an external container!
      1. poquello
        poquello 14 December 2017 23: 25 New
        +1
        Quote: rruvim
        That is why I love our military (if they really told the press) for their non-depilation and confidence. Well, what are the F-22 heat traps? It is imprisoned for supersonic, all the equipment and weapons in the "belly", there is even nowhere to hang an external container!

        Do you want to say that there is no protection from thermal GOS?
        1. rruvim
          rruvim 14 December 2017 23: 41 New
          0
          Can you imagine the performance characteristics of the F-22? Well, which fighter can catch him, in order to launch any modification of the rocket from our GOS. Only active with the CSG, and then on a collision course. Maybe the MIG-31 will catch up with the afterburner, but the missile with the seeker is definitely not there. And then, we must also "detect" the 22nd. Onboard, slotted headlamps cannot, until they can. GOS are not "catching up" not only in speed, but also because the 22nd has effective flame arresters. Its "loop" is almost invisible in the infrared range. Its only minus is that it is very phonetic: a powerful AFAR, a bunch of transmitting devices.
          1. rruvim
            rruvim 15 December 2017 00: 00 New
            +2
            “Lockheed” created this unit in the hope that all 200 pieces in a “single rush” will tear our entire aviation, slip through our air defense of the 70s (200th, 75th, 125th complexes, military air defense and even three hundredths) . Therefore, they made heavy, expensive products with Stealth technology, stuffing them with all sorts of WI-FI in different ranges. And when they realized that there were serious opponents (though not yet) against these “flyers”, and the opponents chose an asymmetric answer, they just started to “listen” to these flying transmitters, “change” the navigation signal from satellites, and just chat with the pilots . But imagine when the pilot John receives a message from our Birch in a pure Russian female voice - "wrong angle of attack!".
            1. poquello
              poquello 15 December 2017 00: 09 New
              +3
              Quote: rruvim
              And when they realized that there were serious opponents (though not yet) against these “flyers”, and the opponents chose an asymmetric answer, they just started to “listen” to these flying transmitters, “change” the navigation signal from satellites, and just chat with the pilots . But imagine

              and, now I understand, smoke vv rockets instead of advertising bourgeois books
          2. poquello
            poquello 15 December 2017 00: 05 New
            +2
            Quote: rruvim
            Can you imagine the performance characteristics of the F-22? Well, which fighter can catch him, in order to launch any modification of the rocket from our GOS. Only active with the CSG, and then on a collision course. Maybe the MIG-31 will catch up with the afterburner, but the missile with the seeker is definitely not there. And then, we must also "detect" the 22nd. Onboard, slotted headlamps cannot, until they can. GOS are not "catching up" not only in speed, but also because the 22nd has effective flame arresters. Its "loop" is almost invisible in the infrared range. Its only minus is that it is very phonetic: a powerful AFAR, a bunch of transmitting devices.

            nifiga did not understand the idea - just in case the r-40 targets up to 3000 km / h, etc. etc. etc.
      2. figwam
        figwam 14 December 2017 23: 48 New
        +5
        Quote: rruvim
        That is why I love our military (if they really told the press) for their non-depilation and confidence. Well, what are the F-22 heat traps? It is imprisoned for supersonic, all the equipment and weapons in the "belly", there is even nowhere to hang an external container!

        Everyone has that kind of protection.

        Visible in the thermal range like any other aircraft.

        Since when did airplanes fly faster than rockets?)))
        1. poquello
          poquello 15 December 2017 00: 11 New
          +3
          Quote: figvam
          Since when did airplanes fly faster than rockets?)))

          so it’s magical, as they see, they immediately slow down the rockets, if even a howler with a flashing beacon, they can finally give way
        2. rruvim
          rruvim 15 December 2017 00: 17 New
          0
          I did not write that Airplanes can fly faster than rockets. I am not a pilot. But even in the DCS simulator, you can easily get away from the P-73 by switching to afterburner, or simply turn off the engines if the height allows. Regarding the top photo, no one will forbid the pilot to take the container with the TL for "beauty", but it is unlikely that the F-22 pilot needs it in combat conditions, he is not an attack aircraft ...
          1. poquello
            poquello 15 December 2017 00: 32 New
            +2
            Quote: rruvim
            I did not write that Airplanes can fly faster than rockets. I am not a pilot. But even in the DCS simulator, you can easily get away from the P-73 by switching to afterburner, or simply turn off the engines if the height allows. Regarding the top photo, no one will forbid the pilot to take the container with the TL for "beauty", but it is unlikely that the F-22 pilot needs it in combat conditions, he is not an attack aircraft ...

            from a pancake, a victim of advertising, the r-73 has targets up to 2500 km / h and there are similar ones, but besides them there are still a bunch of faster ones, "they will not catch up" is not an argument
            1. figwam
              figwam 15 December 2017 00: 45 New
              +4
              poquello

              Most likely a victim of a computer game.
          2. figwam
            figwam 15 December 2017 00: 35 New
            +4
            How not to write?
            Quote: rruvim
            Do you represent the performance characteristics of the F-22? Well, which fighter can catch him, in order to launch any modification of the rocket from our GOS. Only active with the CSG, and then on a collision course. Maybe MIG-31 will catch up with afterburner, but the missile with GOS is definitely not.

            1. The SU-35 has a higher speed than the F-22.
            2. Su-35 is enough to launch a couple of R-27ET1 with a range of up to 80 km, the target speed is up to 3500 km / h, you don’t even need to catch up with the Raptor without traps.
            3. Even Rafal does 22nd in a maneuverable battle.
          3. zoolu350
            zoolu350 15 December 2017 04: 03 New
            +1
            How can a plane get away from an air-to-air missile which is 1,5 times faster? This is not even a MiG-31.
            1. dzvero
              dzvero 15 December 2017 09: 00 New
              0
              According to the OBS news agency, the Iraqi MiG-25 succeeded in doing the same afterburner. If true, then probably left the rocket launched from the maximum range, i.e. at the end, when the speed of the rocket is already falling and it is not able to maneuver.
    2. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 15 December 2017 00: 46 New
      +1
      "a pair of Su-25 attack aircraft at an altitude of 3,3 thousand meters escorted a humanitarian convoy" ///

      I can hardly imagine how attack aircraft "accompany" a humanitarian convoy ... smile
      Spinning over her continuously? Or fly back and forth? Somehow helicopters are more suitable for this purpose ...
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    1. Paranoid50
      Paranoid50 14 December 2017 23: 15 New
      +2
      Quote: Laksamana Besar
      Defense Ministry responded

      Yes, already published. Well, actually, as required.
  20. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 14 December 2017 23: 22 New
    0
    Stripes with fire play ... 35th covered? Keeping escorted! Here they "startled" laughing
  21. gig334
    gig334 14 December 2017 23: 49 New
    0
    Guys, this is the second case and it was not there. The Ministry of Defense denied this, this is fake news https://ria.ru/syria/20171214/1510988920.html
    1. Scalpel
      Scalpel 15 December 2017 16: 44 New
      0
      I would rather believe the Americans than our Ministry of Defense, which completely lied. If there is no information from the neutral side of course.
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  23. Zomanus
    Zomanus 14 December 2017 23: 52 New
    +2
    Well, that’s all right. We left the Syrian sky
    Americans came to our place.
    Wait, they will soon begin to shoot down Syrian planes.
    1. gig334
      gig334 14 December 2017 23: 53 New
      0
      Guys, this is the second case and it was not there. The Ministry of Defense denied this, this is fake news https://ria.ru/syria/20171214/1510988920.html
  24. Bakht
    Bakht 14 December 2017 23: 53 New
    +1
    In fact, the message was that American fighters opened warning fire on the SU-25. Russian aircraft left the area.
    So there were no light signals. In fact: the Russian Air Force can not fly after the Euphrates. We must also reduce the group in Syria and everything will be in openwork.
    1. gig334
      gig334 14 December 2017 23: 57 New
      0
      No one opened fire and there were no interceptions, this is a fake, read carefully https://ria.ru/syria/20171214/1510988920.html
      1. Bakht
        Bakht 15 December 2017 00: 04 New
        0
        I usually read everything attentively. There is double information. Why should I believe ria and not believe rambler?
        More information from the MO just appeared
        “Some American and British media are once again trying to pass off wishful thinking. On December 13, a pair of Su-25 attack aircraft at an altitude of 3300 meters escorted a humanitarian convoy in the area of ​​Mayadin (western bank of the Euphrates River). From the eastern bank of the river, an American F-22 fighter approached them. By firing heat traps, the F-22 interfered with a pair of Russian Su-25s
        Performing an air cover task at an altitude of 10 meters, the Russian Su-000S fighter quickly approached the F-35 from the rear hemisphere, after which the American fighter left the area
        I use the information that is currently available. And at the moment there is information from the Moscow Region and the Western media, the Pentagon has not yet given the official version.
        1. Bakht
          Bakht 15 December 2017 00: 06 New
          0
          One can find discrepancies. Where exactly did the incident happen? ON THE WEST OR EAST BANK OF THE EUFRAT? 13th and 14th? If on the 13th then this "news" is already a day.
        2. gig334
          gig334 15 December 2017 00: 07 New
          0
          Because Rambler is not a defense ministry. The real case was on November 23, when the Su-35 scared away f 22. On December 13, there was nothing, this is a fake that was confirmed by the Ministry of Defense. Read the information carefully.
          1. Bakht
            Bakht 15 December 2017 00: 12 New
            0
            Likewise, ria is not MO.
            And in the Defense Ministry said "interfered with a pair of Russian Su-25"
            In general, the question remained: did the American open fire? Russian Defense Ministry claims no. The Pentagon is silent. The news is not fake. Just a little rotten.
            1. Bakht
              Bakht 15 December 2017 00: 20 New
              0
              There is also a message from CENTCOM. But in Russian. I'm on the Amer’s website of the Central Command now looking for the original in English. While there is this
              “The two F-22s were too close to the two Russian aircraft, so communication channels were used to prevent conflicts to discuss this situation.”
              1. Bakht
                Bakht 15 December 2017 00: 29 New
                0
                There is no official press release from amers yet. There is a CENTCOM message to Sputnik. And there they did not make a big problem out of it.
                The militaries of Russia and the United States have discussed a close call between two US F-22 Raptor and two Russian Su-25 aircraft over Syria on Wednesday, a CENTCOM official told Sputnik.
                "Two F-22 went too close to two Russian jets so we had to use the de-confliction channels," the official stated on Thursday. "This is not something extraordinary ... It happens sometimes several times a day."
                As you can see, the discrepancies remain. Yet Americans claim that the incident occurred on the East Bank. Two f22. No Su-35. And no evidence of either heat traps or warning shots.
                But the fact is that Russian VKS cannot fly for the Euphrates. And the sky there remained American.
            2. gig334
              gig334 15 December 2017 00: 22 New
              0
              So Rio refers to the Ministry of Defense as well as other sources. But honestly, those who write articles need to be fired, they are not at all able to formulate their thoughts. From all this, I understood only that on November 23 there was a case and the su-35 drove off the f-22. But from November 13, I did not understand, it was generally a fake, or the Ministry of Defense writes that there was no interception, because they were again prevented by the Su-35. And if the F-22 opened fire, they would have been shot down by the Su-35 and S-400. They fly under S-400 sights there (I'm talking about f-22), F-22 equipment that shows that they are being led by S-400 systems
      2. Scalpel
        Scalpel 15 December 2017 16: 45 New
        0
        Do you believe that yourself?
  25. Azazelo
    Azazelo 15 December 2017 00: 09 New
    0
    And how, intercepted ??? Or so they took off, made a circle above the airfield and sat down again. But the news turned out what you need)))
  26. Lexa-149
    Lexa-149 15 December 2017 00: 25 New
    0
    "the fighters gave out some warning lights."

    And they sounded a horn! laughing
  27. jetfors_84
    jetfors_84 15 December 2017 06: 23 New
    0
    Feykomety and not a company
  28. 3vs
    3vs 15 December 2017 06: 29 New
    0
    Well, did you complete the drying task or what?
  29. chidoryan
    chidoryan 15 December 2017 08: 09 New
    +1
    so who drove whom? Again tales a la "donald cook" ???
  30. Nikolay Fedorov
    Nikolay Fedorov 15 December 2017 10: 30 New
    +1
    How the West loves to lie! For him, a lie is a vital necessity, without which he simply dies a miserable and unnecessary ...
    This incident happened the day before yesterday, and how many lies stuck on it! Now, not only Western media, but also ours, began to print monstrous headlines, for example, as in the Parliamentary newspaper: "US fighters open fire on Russian attack aircraft in Syria"It sounds monstrous (it's a war!), Consumers, chewing and munching, are scared, magazines are happy, officials are satisfied - the goals have been achieved. But in reality the event usually happened recently. As our Moscow Region explained, foreign media are trying to give out what they want for the real one. Just one impudent F-22 interfered with a pair of our Su-25s, firing heat traps. As soon as one of our Su-35s appeared nearby, the insolent escaped. That's all!
    1. Scalpel
      Scalpel 15 December 2017 16: 46 New
      0
      It’s just our Defense Ministry and our newspapermen who are lying about the messages of the Western media.
      1. Nikolay Fedorov
        Nikolay Fedorov 15 December 2017 16: 56 New
        +1
        Quote: Scalpel
        It’s just our Defense Ministry and our newspapermen who are lying about the messages of the Western media.

        Remember once and for all. Our ministry of defense never lies. If any information from the Moscow Region seemed untrue to you and for this you have every reason (i.e. you yourself personally participated in this incident and were either at the helm of one of the aircraft or at the remote control on the ground), then Defense Ministry spreads misinformation in order to mislead the enemy. So it is necessary. If, while participating in the war, you continue to insist on the lies of the Moscow Region, then it is time for you to talk with the counterintelligence, where he will ask questions.
  31. seacap
    seacap 15 December 2017 15: 56 New
    0
    Quote: rruvim
    but the MIG-31 develops supersonic speed only at afterburner and at a temperature of "-31". And the F-22 is imprisoned for supersonic without afterburner, but it will fly all over Syria, no one our attack aircraft will even notice ...

    Did he understand what he said?