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A resident of Gomel was sent to the colony for participating in the militia of the LPR

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The Gomel regional court sent for two years to the colony of general regime 29-year-old Belarusian citizen for participating in an armed formation in the territory of the self-proclaimed LC.


According to the press service of the court, a Gomel citizen was accused of “committing a crime for participating in a foreign state in an armed formation or armed conflict without signs of mercenarism,” reports RIA News. It is noted that the verdict has not entered into force.

A resident of Gomel was sent to the colony for participating in the militia of the LPR


In turn, the newspaper Gomelskaya Pravda told about the details of the case. So, according to the prosecution, at the end of summer 2015, the Belarusian traveled from Russia to Ukraine through a border point. On the territory of the self-proclaimed Luhansk People's Republic, he joined an armed unit - a Cossack regiment, where he was enrolled in the ranks.

During the trial, the accused did not deny that he was in the Cossack regiment, but claimed that he was not a soldier, had no firearms weapons and did not participate in hostilities. According to Gomel, the Cossacks of the regiment took part in the fighting on the side of the LC, but the Cossack regiment itself, as a military unit, did not participate in the fighting
- writes the edition.

Recall that in mid-November, the Gomel regional court sentenced to two years of forced labor an 41-year-old resident of the Belarusian city of Rechitsa Vitaly Mitrofanov for participating in hostilities in the territory of the self-proclaimed DNR.

In September, in Vitebsk, 29-year-old Belarusian citizen Alexander Ershov was convicted of participating in the Ukrainian conflict on the side of the DPR, sentenced to two years of restraint of liberty. In early November, it was reported that Ershov returned to the Donbass.

In 2016, Belarus introduced criminal liability for the participation of citizens in armed conflicts on the territory of another state, providing for punishment in the form of restriction of liberty to five years or imprisonment from two to five years.
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  1. assa67
    assa67 14 December 2017 19: 37 New
    14
    "without signs of mercenarism" ... so why judge something? .. Old Man will screw something both with yours and yours ... and what will happen if the Bandera climb to the Crimea? ... I think there will be no less Belarusians than Russian volunteers ... put everyone in prison?
    1. Hunter
      Hunter 14 December 2017 19: 49 New
      +7
      Quote: assa67
      . Something Old Man and ours and your screw.

      Well, barking begins, as usual ..))) A long time ago, there was no impact on Old Man .. bully
      1. assa67
        assa67 14 December 2017 19: 54 New
        +8
        on Old Man and did not think "run over"! laughing ... I always come to Belarus with pleasure, my soul is resting .... he has to spin, what to do
        1. Going
          Going 14 December 2017 19: 59 New
          12
          It's a pity if they put me in prison.
          1. Tatyana
            Tatyana 14 December 2017 20: 00 New
            15
            I don’t even want to comment!
            And what will Old Man Lukashenko do when the same Bandera mess begins in R. Belarus as in Ukraine, with those who come to defend Belarusians as volunteers from the Nazis?
            Where is the logic of the rulers of R. Belarus? I don’t understand!
            1. Sergey53
              Sergey53 14 December 2017 21: 04 New
              +2
              Remember there is a French Italian-French called "The law is the law." The situation is similar.
              1. Going
                Going 14 December 2017 22: 10 New
                +7
                And you're right, the mechanism works here, but someone started it.
            2. alexmach
              alexmach 14 December 2017 23: 56 New
              +4
              And what will Old Man Lukashenko do when the same Bandera mess begins in R. Belarus as in Ukraine, with those who come to defend Belarusians as volunteers from the Nazis?

              It seems to me that the cunning Lukashenko plans to head this mess :)
            3. Black5Raven
              Black5Raven 15 December 2017 05: 55 New
              +1
              Quote: Tatiana
              And what will Old Man Lukashenko do when the same Bandera mess begins in R. Belarus as in Ukraine

              It began against the background of chopping off the Crimea, would not have climbed - would not have happened.
              Quote: Tatiana
              from the Nazis

              For you, all fascists. To whom the party will point a finger, those fascists and nonhumans.
              1. asiat_61
                asiat_61 15 December 2017 10: 06 New
                +2
                With the head, everything is in order ... chopping off ... Already where to cash in, would return his .. (c)
          2. bouncyhunter
            bouncyhunter 14 December 2017 20: 02 New
            +9
            Unfortunately, the law here in Belarus makes no distinction between the defenders of LDNR and the mercenaries of Ukroreich - article one ... sad
            1. Going
              Going 14 December 2017 20: 04 New
              +9
              Good evening Pasha! hi if only it was used correctly and for everyone, I wonder who the guy passed.
              1. bouncyhunter
                bouncyhunter 14 December 2017 20: 07 New
                +6
                Hi Victor! hi There are no details, I hope in the evening release of the emergency there will be at least some details ...
                1. Going
                  Going 14 December 2017 20: 08 New
                  +5
                  All the same, they will not say who.
                  1. bouncyhunter
                    bouncyhunter 14 December 2017 20: 12 New
                    +5
                    Maybe so, but last year when the law enforcement officer was planted in Brest, there was a very detailed report.
                    1. Going
                      Going 14 December 2017 20: 15 New
                      +6
                      About the lawyer, yes, no doubt, but here is a different angle.
                      1. bouncyhunter
                        bouncyhunter 14 December 2017 20: 19 New
                        +5
                        I agree, because I am writing that it may be so. After all, maybe that way. By the way, two years is the minimum sentence under this article, and the maximum is five years.
                  2. alexmach
                    alexmach 14 December 2017 23: 58 New
                    +1
                    Well, in principle, Ukrainian intelligence agencies collect that information. And he most likely appeared somewhere in public sources (in the contact, for example, posted a photo from Donetsk)
                2. Going
                  Going 14 December 2017 20: 23 New
                  +7
                  Quote: bouncyhunter
                  I agree, because I am writing that it may be so. After all, maybe that way. By the way, two years is the minimum sentence under this article, and the maximum is five years.


                  There it is possible and less than the bottom, to give conditionally.
                  1. bouncyhunter
                    bouncyhunter 14 December 2017 20: 29 New
                    +4
                    Not strong in this matter, and therefore I look forward to an evening state of emergency.
                    1. Going
                      Going 14 December 2017 20: 35 New
                      +5
                      Tell me later, I'm sure someone reported.
                      1. bouncyhunter
                        bouncyhunter 14 December 2017 20: 38 New
                        +6
                        Agreed. I myself think so, and I suspect that the tip could come from the 404th.
                  2. Going
                    Going 14 December 2017 20: 39 New
                    +6
                    Quote: bouncyhunter
                    Agreed. I myself think so, and I suspect that the tip could come from the 404th.


                    For some reason I’m sure of this.
              2. prosto_rgb
                prosto_rgb 14 December 2017 20: 50 New
                +5
                Quote: Going
                I wonder who passed the guy.

                Based on the legal practice of the Republic of Belarus.
                More than HE himself, no one could pass him.
                For those who are fighting for the LPR / DPR (in contrast to the "right-wingers") are first warned not to whistle at all angles about participation in the conflict.
                Well, if it doesn’t reach, then only then is the law.
              3. asiat_61
                asiat_61 15 December 2017 10: 07 New
                0
                The world is not without good people.
            2. moskowit
              moskowit 14 December 2017 20: 11 New
              +3
              “It is of course”, but surely some of the Belarusians fought and are fighting in the volunteer battalions of Ukraine ... There is information about the trials over them ???
              So it turns out, the article is one and the approaches are different ....
              1. Going
                Going 14 December 2017 20: 16 New
                +4
                Quote: bouncyhunter
                Maybe so, but last year when the law enforcement officer was planted in Brest, there was a very detailed report.


                Here is an example for you.
                1. moskowit
                  moskowit 14 December 2017 20: 22 New
                  +1
                  "Clear stump", now I see that the rule of law. hi
                  1. Going
                    Going 14 December 2017 20: 27 New
                    +4
                    No irony, here the guy who handed over, laid, as you like, this is the whole trouble.
            3. BARKHAN
              BARKHAN 14 December 2017 22: 58 New
              +3
              Quote: bouncyhunter
              Pavel, at least kill him ... Belarus positions itself as an anti-fascist country. And puts an anti-fascist for anti-fascist activity. If he, like the Old Man, were trading with Bandera, then there probably would have been no questions for him.

              Pavel, at least kill him ... Belarus positions itself as an anti-fascist country. And puts an anti-fascist for anti-fascist activity. If he, like the Old Man, were trading with Bandera, then there probably would have been no questions for him.
          3. assa67
            assa67 14 December 2017 20: 03 New
            +6
            Yes, for two years the colony soldered! ....
            1. Going
              Going 14 December 2017 20: 07 New
              +4
              It is noted that the verdict did not enter into legal force.


              There is still an opportunity.
              1. assa67
                assa67 14 December 2017 20: 15 New
                +4
                we’ll see how they say ...
                1. assa67
                  assa67 14 December 2017 20: 17 New
                  +6
                  Quote: bouncyhunter
                  about last year when a law enforcement officer was planted in Brest, there was a very detailed report.

                  last year and one ... and here already about 3 mentioned ....
              2. prosto_rgb
                prosto_rgb 14 December 2017 21: 56 New
                +1
                Quote: Going
                It is noted that the verdict did not enter into legal force.


                There is still an opportunity.

                There are more than enough opportunities:
                Belarusian convicted of participating in hostilities in a foreign country returned to the DPR
                Read more: https://news.tut.by/society/567174.html

                As the saying goes: "The border is locked, the key is in your pocket."
      2. vasya.pupkin
        vasya.pupkin 15 December 2017 12: 58 New
        +1
        Yes, the Old Man is still YUDA, Possessed hugging Saakashvili, Potroshenko, etc. Our drones often see the Uragan and Tornado systems on "brotherly" tractors as ukrofashists. And our militias are "mowed down" by snipers with "brotherly" optics.
        No matter how much Judas licks the 5th point to the west, he still has a camera in The Hague prepared for him a long time ago.
    2. Victor jnnjdfy
      Victor jnnjdfy 14 December 2017 19: 54 New
      +1
      Here the Russians already have the rule: "Whoever is not with us is against us!" It is impossible to ask for loans and preferences from the Russian Federation and at the same time send volunteers to the zone who fought on the side of the DPR / LPR. As one alcoholic said on another occasion: "That's the kind of, you know, squiggle ..."
      1. Black5Raven
        Black5Raven 14 December 2017 20: 12 New
        +2
        Quote: Victor Jnnjdfy
        and at the same time send to the zone volunteers who fought on the side of the DPR / LPR.

        But Russia does not give a damn about them? If you REALLY took care of the lives of civilians there, we would have solved this issue a long time ago, and not turned them into a “scarecrow” for the people “here you will continue to protest and the bandera will come to you like in the DPR”. We climbed into the Crimea, but the intestine was thin there? I do not believe .
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    4. prosto_rgb
      prosto_rgb 14 December 2017 20: 12 New
      +3
      Quote: assa67
      ..something Old Man screwed both ours and yours ...

      Vice versa
      and neither ours nor yours
    5. tchoni
      tchoni 14 December 2017 22: 00 New
      +1
      father is still that woman with low social responsibility
  2. xetai9977
    xetai9977 14 December 2017 19: 38 New
    13
    It is quite natural! Participation in illegal armed groups! All the same, for red, white or blue! According to Belarusian laws, everything is right!
    1. Hunter
      Hunter 14 December 2017 19: 48 New
      +4
      Quote: xetai9977
      It is quite natural! Participation in illegal armed groups! All the same, for red, white or blue! According to Belarusian laws, everything is right!

      Well, you're right Hentai .. (then I hope they will release ..))) Old Man and so hollow from all sides ..
      Volunteers must be "official" and agreed upon by the relevant authorities .. otherwise Makhnovism will begin!
    2. Tersky
      Tersky 14 December 2017 19: 52 New
      13
      Quote: xetai9977
      Quite natural! Participation in illegal armed groups! All the same, for red, white or blue! According to Belarusian laws, everything is correct!

      Well, if by law, then let Old Man Rygoritch begin with himself - only in the 2015 year did Belarus supply engines and repair kits for lightly armored vehicles to / from Ukraine with at least 2 million greenery. Ukraine also received from Minsk batteries for tanks and infantry fighting vehicles at 2,19 million of the same green. In addition, Belarus is actively supplying to / to Ukraine, mainly for the needs of the Armed Forces and the National Guard, optics for small arms: monoculars and thermal imagers, collimator and other sights, rangefinders and aiming devices for equipment. And no one was planted no Paradox request is not it a colleague? And although what am I talking about winked , money doesn’t smell .... bully
      1. bouncyhunter
        bouncyhunter 14 December 2017 20: 05 New
        +4
        hi I hope you don’t think that everyone completely agrees with this attitude of the country's leadership towards what is happening in / in Ukraine?
        1. Tersky
          Tersky 14 December 2017 20: 07 New
          +4
          Quote: bouncyhunter
          I hope you don’t think that everyone completely agrees with this attitude of the country's leadership towards what is happening in / in Ukraine?

          laughing Am I like a drug addict? Not no Well then order. hi
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      3. SmokeR 47RU
        SmokeR 47RU 14 December 2017 22: 29 New
        0
        The same information. Like in a frying pan, but the geshevt is above all for the rear.
        1. SmokeR 47RU
          SmokeR 47RU 14 December 2017 22: 30 New
          0
          It's a shame for people .....
    3. Anatole Klim
      Anatole Klim 14 December 2017 20: 00 New
      +2
      Quote: xetai9977
      According to Belarusian laws, everything is right!

      Afraid of Rygorych’s supporters of the Russian world in Belarus, they suddenly want to join Russia, and they’re planting, they’ll loosen the throne, and you cannot lose power, you need to put your sons on the throne, and you should meet old age with dignity as the father of the Belarusian nation.
    4. S.V.YU
      S.V.YU 14 December 2017 20: 58 New
      +2
      If only BANDER FASCISTS were not given out!
      1. prosto_rgb
        prosto_rgb 14 December 2017 22: 02 New
        +1
        Quote: S.V.Yu
        If only BANDER FASCISTS were not given out!

        Do not worry about it!
        As a maximum, it will return to the DPR:
        Belarusian convicted of participating in hostilities in a foreign country returned to the DPR
        Read more: https://news.tut.by/society/567174.html
    5. prosto_rgb
      prosto_rgb 14 December 2017 21: 58 New
      +1
      Quote: xetai9977
      It is quite natural! Participation in illegal armed groups! All the same, for red, white or blue! According to Belarusian laws, everything is right!

      Absolutely.
      If you are suddenly interested, then here they are in fact:
      http://www.fr.gov.by/upload/naemn.pdf
  3. Wolka
    Wolka 14 December 2017 19: 46 New
    +1
    You can’t execute, hero ... but also reward ... oh, this is international law
  4. Nemesis
    Nemesis 14 December 2017 19: 54 New
    +5
    This once again suggests that Russia has only two allies: its army and navy ... They should spend the money of the Russian Federation on them, and not on the maintenance and protection at the expense and to the detriment of the Russian Federation of the former Soviet Union ... GDP of this He doesn’t understand, then he must retire ....
  5. Rusland
    Rusland 14 December 2017 19: 54 New
    +9
    Create conditions, let him study tactics, engage in sports.
  6. Jack O'Neill
    Jack O'Neill 14 December 2017 20: 08 New
    +6
    We, by the way, also have an article for mercenary, 359 of the Criminal Code . But I remember that they ran after several men who fought on the side of the Ukrainians. And those who fought in the LC / DNI - did not touch, as if the article did not fall. Although they simply "did not notice."
    1. Going
      Going 14 December 2017 20: 18 New
      +3
      There must be a pathogen, someone must write a statement.
      1. Lopatov
        Lopatov 14 December 2017 20: 34 New
        +5
        This is not the case. In general, the international community would not give a damn about mercenaries, if not for one huge BUT. The receiving party is not responsible for the actions of the mercenary, including war crimes. And he is responsible for the actions of foreign volunteers included in the structure of the Armed Forces.
        Therefore, the Convention appeared, which clearly spelled out signs of mercenarism. Something else den. content compared with local ones in the same position and in the same rank, unit or the mercenary is not included in the armed forces. If these signs do not exist, then he is a volunteer
        1. Going
          Going 14 December 2017 20: 37 New
          +4
          According to the press service of the court, the Gomel resident was accused of “committing a crime for participating in the territory of a foreign state in an armed group or armed conflict without signs of mercenarism”,

          Clearly stated - volunteer.
          1. Lopatov
            Lopatov 14 December 2017 21: 04 New
            +6
            Exactly. Judge the volunteer. And this is the decision of the authorities of Belarus.
            For there are no international obligations, as in the case of mercenarism.
            I don’t know why they needed it. Apparently, the authorities are afraid of such.
            1. Going
              Going 14 December 2017 21: 12 New
              +5
              Someone was very fussed and wrote a denunciation, which is difficult to ignore.
    2. Lopatov
      Lopatov 14 December 2017 20: 23 New
      +3
      Quote: Jack O'Neill
      And those who fought in the LPR / DPR were not touched, as if they did not fall under the article.

      Because they do not fall. There is a huge difference between a mercenary and a volunteer (the latter is also a legal definition)
      1. prosto_rgb
        prosto_rgb 14 December 2017 20: 45 New
        +3
        Quote: Spade
        There is a huge difference between a mercenary and a volunteer (the latter is also a legal definition)

        There is NO (!!!) difference for the new Belarusian legislation.
        Participated in hostilities in other countries - article.
        Previously, it was necessary to prove mercenarism, now only the fact of participation.
        1. Lopatov
          Lopatov 14 December 2017 20: 58 New
          +2
          Quote: prosto_rgb
          There is NO (!!!) difference for the new Belarusian legislation.

          There is. They didn’t remove the article for mercenaries.
          1. prosto_rgb
            prosto_rgb 14 December 2017 21: 43 New
            +1
            Quote: Spade
            There is. They didn’t remove the article for mercenaries.

            The article was not removed.
            According to the Criminal Code of the Republic of Belarus dated July 9, 1999, this was so:
            http://уголовный-кодекс.бел/statya-133
            http://уголовный-кодекс.бел/statya-361
            But the fact is that there is Law RB 358-З 20.04.2016/XNUMX/XNUMX On introducing additions and amendments to some laws of the Republic of Belarus.
            According to which we have something interesting:
            http://docplayer.ru/46730833-O-vnesenii-dopolneni
            yi-izmeneniy-v-nekotorye-zakony-respubliki-belar
            us.html
            And in particular (we are very interested in Clause 6 of this law):
            6.Supplement Code of Articles 361-1–361-3 read as follows:
            [note, there have never been such articles before]
            «Section 361-1. Creation of an extremist formation
            1. The creation of an extremist formation or the leadership of such a formation or a structural unit within it -
            shall be punishable by restraint of liberty for a term of up to five years or imprisonment for a term of from three to seven years.
            2. The same acts committed repeatedly or by an official using his official powers, -
            shall be punishable by restraint of liberty for a term of three to five years or imprisonment for a term of six to ten years.
            Note. A person shall be exempted from criminal liability under this article and article 361-2 of this Code if he or she promptly communicated to state bodies or otherwise contributed to the identification, prevention, or suppression of acts classified as extremist by law.
            Article 361-2. Financing extremist activities
            The provision or collection of cash, securities or other property, including property rights and exclusive rights to the results of intellectual activity, by any means for knowingly providing the activities of an extremist formation -
            shall be punishable by arrest, or restriction of liberty for a term of up to five years, or imprisonment for a term of from three to six years.
            Section 361-3. Participation in the territory of a foreign state in an armed formation or armed conflict, military operations, recruitment or preparation of persons for such participation
            1.Participation citizen of the Republic of Belarus or stateless person permanently residing in the Republic of Belarus in the territory of a foreign state в armed formation of one of the warring parties, as well as participation in an armed conflictmilitary operations without state authority and in the absence of evidence of a crime under Article 133 of this Code, - shall be punished by restriction of liberty for a term of up to five years or imprisonment for a term of from two to five years.
            2. Recruitment, training, other training or use of citizens of the Republic of Belarus or stateless persons permanently residing in the Republic of Belarus to participate in the territory of a foreign state in the armed formation of one of the warring parties, in armed conflicts, military operations, as well as financing or other material support such activities, in the absence of evidence of a crime provided for in Article 132 of this Code, shall be punishable by deprivation of liberty for a term of five to ten years. ”

            Please note how much is only written in the name 361-3., And in 2 of its parts.

            Therefore, I say that: "NO (!!!) difference."

            And here is what is meant by “mercenarism” according to the Criminal Code of the Republic of Belarus in PDF:
            http://www.fr.gov.by/upload/naemn.pdf
            1. Lopatov
              Lopatov 14 December 2017 22: 39 New
              0
              Quote: prosto_rgb
              Therefore, I say that: "NO (!!!) difference."

              There is a difference. Including for Themis.
              Mercenary is an obligatory article. Associated with the signed Convention. Well, the rest ...
              I’m interested in this: why didn’t the Belarusian authorities react to allowing RB citizens to serve in the RF Armed Forces? After all, they are now actually outlawed ... The only way out is to renounce your citizenship and accept Russian.
              1. prosto_rgb
                prosto_rgb 14 December 2017 23: 01 New
                0
                Quote: Spade
                There is a difference. Including for Themis.
                Mercenary is an obligatory article. Associated with the signed Convention. Well, the rest ...

                If these articles apply, then no longer.
                Actually, for this, the amendments were adopted. For mercenarism is such a thing - hard to prove.


                Quote: Spade
                I’m interested in this: why didn’t the Belarusian authorities react to allowing RB citizens to serve in the RF Armed Forces?

                As far as I know, the authorities of the Republic of Belarus did not allow citizens of the Republic of Belarus to serve in the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation.
                On the other hand, if such permission is adopted by the legislation of the Russian Federation - how can one influence the laws of another country? Absurdity is obtained.


                Quote: Spade
                After all, they are now actually outlawed ...

                Hmm ... curiously it turns out.
                it turns out that you can serve in the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, but in their composition you can no longer participate in the armed conflict.

                Quote: Spade
                The only way out is to renounce your citizenship and accept Russian.

                it seems like only at first a pyrination, and then a failure otherwise:
                1.Participation citizen of the Republic of Belarus or stateless person permanently residing in the Republic of Belarus
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  8. midshipman
    midshipman 14 December 2017 20: 13 New
    +6
    Yes, Old Man and Poroshenko did not cause allergies. Remember these his words. And to all Russians this man causes not only an allergy, but a sense of disgust, a desire to execute by hanging, etc. I have the honor.
    1. Antares
      Antares 14 December 2017 22: 30 New
      +1
      Quote: midshipman
      And to all Russians, this person causes not only an allergy, but a sense of disgust, a desire to execute by hanging, etc.

      Lukashenko did not call him the best choice of the Ukrainian people, respected Ukrainian partner, etc.
      Belarus has a much better position than the Russian Federation and Ukraine. In the end, a platform for negotiations and ways of communication is all through Minsk. They do not have KhPP.
  9. kefan
    kefan 14 December 2017 20: 42 New
    +1
    In general, the Old Man has the same approach as in Russia, maybe it is high time for something to change?
  10. Vikmay16
    Vikmay16 14 December 2017 20: 46 New
    +3
    "In 2016, Belarus introduced criminal liability for the participation of citizens in armed conflicts in the territory of another state, which provides for a punishment of restraint of liberty of up to five years or imprisonment of two to five years."
    Something is inaudible, so that Bandera would be judged?
    1. pvv113
      pvv113 14 December 2017 20: 55 New
      +3
      In my opinion, Bandera was tried in Vitebsk
      1. Going
        Going 14 December 2017 21: 14 New
        +6
        There were still cases, but they did not write about it to V.O. why they raised the question now.
    2. sviazist
      sviazist 14 December 2017 21: 18 New
      +6
      Checkbox change "Belarus". And wash your ears, you can hear something from Russia.
  11. pvv113
    pvv113 14 December 2017 20: 54 New
    +4
    criminal liability for citizen participation in armed conflict

    I never thought that the fight against fascism would be criminally punished, and even more so in Belarus
    1. Going
      Going 14 December 2017 21: 13 New
      +4
      The whole world is crazy.
      1. pvv113
        pvv113 14 December 2017 21: 28 New
        +3
        When in Spain they fought against fascism, thousands of volunteers from the USSR fought there. Why isn’t it right now?
        1. prosto_rgb
          prosto_rgb 14 December 2017 22: 07 New
          +1
          Quote: pvv113
          When in Spain they fought against fascism, thousands of volunteers from the USSR fought there

          Ah - Spain of the 30s.
          And the first fighters against Spanish fascism appeared 3 years before the Nazis themselves.
          1. Going
            Going 14 December 2017 22: 11 New
            +5
            Quote: pvv113
            When in Spain they fought against fascism, thousands of volunteers from the USSR fought there. Why isn’t it right now?


            Because now there is no USSR.
            1. pvv113
              pvv113 14 December 2017 22: 18 New
              +2
              Yes, Victor, unfortunately it is.
          2. Going
            Going 14 December 2017 22: 12 New
            +4
            Quote: prosto_rgb
            And the first fighters against Spanish fascism appeared 3 years before the Nazis themselves.


            Excuse me, what are you talking about?
            1. prosto_rgb
              prosto_rgb 14 December 2017 22: 20 New
              0
              Quote: Going
              Quote: prosto_rgb
              And the first fighters against Spanish fascism appeared 3 years before the Nazis themselves.


              Excuse me, what are you talking about?

              This is so.
              About the history of the volunteer movement in Spain under the strict guidance of the "party".
              1. Going
                Going 14 December 2017 22: 27 New
                +4
                Which party? belay how can you create a movement to combat what is not yet?
                1. Lopatov
                  Lopatov 14 December 2017 22: 41 New
                  0
                  There the Trotskyists were sick of water. And if it were not for them, it is quite possible that there would have been no Franco.
                  But the “right” historians prefer to blame everything on the bloody Stalin. This is more comfortable.
                2. prosto_rgb
                  prosto_rgb 14 December 2017 23: 15 New
                  0
                  Quote: Going
                  Which party?

                  Definitely not "United Russia";)
                  Quote: Going
                  how can a movement be created to combat what is not yet?

                  It’s elementary.
                  It’s no more difficult than finding hundreds of agents of British-German-French-American-Japanese intelligence.
    2. Hunter
      Hunter 14 December 2017 21: 14 New
      +1
      Quote: pvv113
      criminal liability for citizen participation in armed conflict

      I never thought that the fight against fascism would be criminally punished, and even more so in Belarus

      Sly you won’t put a question .. hehe ..
      It is useless, Old Man is too tough for liberals .. They will check and let me go, there was nothing to return ...!
    3. prosto_rgb
      prosto_rgb 14 December 2017 21: 54 New
      +1
      Quote: pvv113
      criminal liability for citizen participation in armed conflict

      I never thought that the fight against fascism would be criminally punished, and even more so in Belarus

      The fight against fascism has nothing to do with it, about it (fascism) in the Criminal Code is not a letter - not a line. But there are quite a few people fighting on the territory of other states.
      Here is more detailed:
      http://www.fr.gov.by/upload/naemn.pdf
      1. pvv113
        pvv113 14 December 2017 22: 16 New
        +2
        I agree, the law does not say a word about fascism. But there is such a phrase "in order to obtain material reward." I have not heard that those who fought on the side of LDNR have returned as billionaires
        1. Going
          Going 14 December 2017 22: 29 New
          +5
          Vladimir, everything is generally simpler here, even by court ruling:
          According to the press service of the court, the Gomel resident was accused of “committing a crime for participating in the territory of a foreign state in an armed group or armed conflict without signs of mercenarism”


          And that means he fought like a volunteer, he wasn’t paid for it.
          1. pvv113
            pvv113 14 December 2017 23: 08 New
            +1
            Here I am about the same. This is not a mercenary
        2. prosto_rgb
          prosto_rgb 14 December 2017 23: 10 New
          0
          Quote: pvv113
          But there is such a phrase "in order to obtain material reward." I have not heard that those who fought on the side of LDNR have returned as billionaires

          This is in accordance with Article 133 of the Criminal Code of the Republic of Belarus dated July 9, 1999.
          And now 2017.
          And the fact is that there is also "Law of the Republic of Belarus 358-З 20.04.2016 On amendments and additions to some laws of the Republic of Belarus. "
          According to which we have something interesting:
          http://docplayer.ru/46730833-O-vnesenii-dopolneni
          yi-izmeneniy-v-nekotorye-zakony-respubliki-belar
          us.html
          And in particular (we are very interested in Clause 6 of this law):
          6.Supplement Code of Articles 361-1–361-3 read as follows:
          [note, there have never been such articles before]
          “Article 361-1. Creation of an extremist formation
          1. The creation of an extremist formation or the leadership of such a formation or a structural unit within it -
          shall be punishable by restraint of liberty for a term of up to five years or imprisonment for a term of from three to seven years.
          2. The same acts committed repeatedly or by an official using his official powers, -
          shall be punishable by restraint of liberty for a term of three to five years or imprisonment for a term of six to ten years.
          Note. A person shall be exempted from criminal liability under this article and article 361-2 of this Code if he or she promptly communicated to state bodies or otherwise contributed to the identification, prevention, or suppression of acts classified as extremist by law.
          Article 361-2. Financing extremist activities
          The provision or collection of cash, securities or other property, including property rights and exclusive rights to the results of intellectual activity, by any means for knowingly providing the activities of an extremist formation -
          shall be punishable by arrest, or restriction of liberty for a term of up to five years, or imprisonment for a term of from three to six years.
          Section 361-3. Participation in the territory of a foreign state in an armed formation or armed conflict, military operations, recruitment or preparation of persons for such participation
          1.The participation of a citizen of the Republic of Belarus or a stateless person permanently residing in the Republic of Belarus on the territory of a foreign state in the armed formation of one of the warring parties, as well as participation in an armed conflict, military operations without state authorization and in the absence of evidence of a crime under Article 133 of this Code, - shall be punished by restriction of liberty for a term of up to five years or imprisonment for a term of from two to five years.
          2. Recruitment, training, other training or use of citizens of the Republic of Belarus or stateless persons permanently residing in the Republic of Belarus to participate in the territory of a foreign state in the armed formation of one of the warring parties, in armed conflicts, military operations, as well as financing or other material support such activities, in the absence of evidence of a crime provided for in Article 132 of this Code, shall be punishable by deprivation of liberty for a term of five to ten years. ”
        3. Sands Careers General
          Sands Careers General 15 December 2017 00: 38 New
          +5
          Quote: pvv113
          I have not heard that those who fought on the side of LDNR have returned as billionaires

          They pay, but you will not reap much. In the year 14-15 it was better. And now the ordinary from 15 thousand rubles. But this is a lot of money for our republics.
          1. pvv113
            pvv113 15 December 2017 07: 56 New
            +1
            Given the risk to life - this is not money that can be considered profit
            1. Sands Careers General
              Sands Careers General 15 December 2017 15: 28 New
              +4
              I agree. Therefore, many dumped someone where, some smarter in Russia or the EU, those who are not very - in Ukraine.
  12. Budilnik
    Budilnik 14 December 2017 22: 03 New
    +3
    Those who went to Spain to fight against the Nazis were called heroes and their names were immortalized in the streets, and here fighters against fascism are planted. Something is wrong with the value system of those in power in the Republic of Belarus ... Khatyn and many other villages were burned in Belarus by nationalists from the UNA-UNSO and OUN-UPA, fathers and grandfathers of those who are now killing civilians in the Donbas. Anyone who forgets a story runs the risk of repeating it, it seems like someone said something ....
    1. Young_Communist
      Young_Communist 15 December 2017 03: 54 New
      +1
      Quote: Budilnik
      those who went to Spain to fight the Nazis were called heroes and their names were immortalized in the streets, but here fighters against fascism are planted. Something is wrong with the value system of those in power in Belarus ...

      Perhaps Father But is afraid that those who are sniffed by gunpowder will go in a year or two to arrange for him a People's Republic of Hungary (Vitebsk People's Republic) and overthrow the Minsk junta. Here, in advance, and cleans the most quick.
  13. Drlivsi
    Drlivsi 14 December 2017 22: 45 New
    0
    Quote: Hunter
    Quote: assa67
    . Something Old Man and ours and your screw.

    Well, barking begins, as usual ..))) A long time ago, there was no impact on Old Man .. bully
    1. Drlivsi
      Drlivsi 14 December 2017 22: 48 New
      +1
      , And why run over, all one ends either as Gaddafi, or as Milosevic
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  15. tihonmarine
    tihonmarine 14 December 2017 23: 14 New
    +1
    Not everything is good in the Fatherland state
  16. Kelwin
    Kelwin 14 December 2017 23: 30 New
    +2
    Well done, cho ... there is a common notion of "judge rat", that’s it.
  17. Sands Careers General
    Sands Careers General 15 December 2017 00: 35 New
    +6
    In vain he left us ...
  18. Swed
    Swed 15 December 2017 03: 21 New
    +1
    Quote: Tatiana
    And what will Old Man Lukashenko do when the same Bandera mess begins in R. Belarus as in Ukraine, with those who come to defend Belarusians as volunteers from the Nazis?
    Where is the logic of the rulers of R. Belarus? I don’t understand!

    At the moment, one resident of the Republic of Belarus has one employee of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, and if without artistic exaggeration, the Republic of Belarus is the first in this regard throughout Europe. Therefore, even with a good sponsor from outside, any mess will be suppressed instantly. Citizen Lukashenko loves power very much and will not give it to anyone, BUT, people are dying. And it’s very scary to think about what kind of porridge can begin after his death, because in connection with the above, on the political field, there is scorched earth with sneaks, lysolyuzami and other poop.
    1. Ronald Reagan
      Ronald Reagan 15 December 2017 14: 35 New
      0
      The monarchy will be. laughing
  19. cariperpaint
    cariperpaint 15 December 2017 04: 40 New
    0
    people! turn off emotions and start thinking. it is a law and it is violated in fact. it is neither good nor bad. it's just that everyone should clearly understand the risks for their choice. Yes, and they are given a small time. Well, think for yourself two years of forced labor. Moreover, this article is from 3 to 7 years old and does not work but a real term. Such sentences for the species give to show that the law exists and it works.
  20. LeonidL
    LeonidL 15 December 2017 06: 36 New
    0
    What can I say? Old Man twirls his ass in front of Europe, he forgot that he was recently listed in the last dictators of Europe. But Europe, at the first opportunity, will remind him and he will be with an innocent guy on the next bunk. The mustached bastard will know how to betray his!