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How much is the Bulgarian government going to spend on repairing the MiG-29?

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After a long discussion in the Bulgarian government, they agreed on the amount of funds from the budget, which they are ready to spend on repair and maintenance of MiG-29 aircraft. In the Bulgarian Cabinet document, the procedure is called “airworthiness assurance”. Recall that earlier the Bulgarian authorities complained that the pilots of the country's Air Force refused to sit at the helm of the MiG-29 for reasons of personal safety - aircraft for a long time did not undergo procedures as part of routine maintenance.


How much is the Bulgarian government going to spend on repairing the MiG-29?


The amount agreed to by the government by the Government of Boyko Borisov will be almost 20 million leva. In rubles it is more than 700 million rubles. In total, the budget previously agreed amount in 30,5 million leva, of which almost 10 million already, as it turned out, allocated. At the same time, the government does not publish accounting data on what exactly these funds were spent on.

It should be recalled that previously official Sofia entered into a contract with the Russian corporation RSK MiG, which will extend the resources of the MiG-29 aircraft of the Bulgarian Air Force. Initially, the country stated that it was necessary to rearm Aviation to western planes. After calculating the funds in the military budget, they decided to stop on the repair of existing Soviet equipment.

According to some reports, the Bulgarian Air Force today is in service with 12 MiG-29 airplanes and three MiG-29UB, which require repair.
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  1. Dezinto
    Dezinto 14 December 2017 17: 40
    +5
    F - 35 let Europeans buy figs!
    1. Tatyana
      Tatyana 14 December 2017 17: 52
      +6
      The amount agreed upon by the government of Boyko Borisov for allocation will amount to almost 20 million leva. In ruble terms, this is more than 700 million rubles. In total, the budget previously agreed upon an amount of 30,5 million leva, of which almost 10 million has already been allocated. At the same time, the government does not publish reporting data on what exactly these funds were spent on.
      I suppose that these 10 million leva “settled” to no avail for allegedly repairing the Bulgarian MiGs already in Poland, and the Bulgarians could no longer scratch them out of there.
      1. pytar
        pytar 14 December 2017 17: 55
        +3
        In vain, so suppose ... But there is always a reason for fantasizing .... laughing
        1. Smog
          Smog 14 December 2017 18: 05
          +2
          I don’t understand why. Three days, it seems, it was planned so much more was spent on repairs. If my memory serves me right.
          Sofia turned to Russia for the repair of the Bulgarian Air Force MiG-29

          December 11 2017
          Bulgarian authorities have asked the Russian MiG Aircraft Corporation to overhaul and service the 15 MiG-29 fighters, the country's defense ministry said on Monday.
          The proposed transaction in the amount of 81,3 million leva (49 million dollars) is designed for four years, reports Reuters with reference to the military.
          . And now there are only 20 lyamas. Now explain to me for fantasies .....
          1. Tatyana
            Tatyana 14 December 2017 18: 17
            +3
            Smog.
            And now only 20 lyamov.
            So.
            Ha! Have you ever been involved in construction involving low-skilled foreign labor migrants?
            Usually the situation is this. For construction, the customer lays down on his budget to release to the contractor, for example, 30 million of money. Then the customer begins to save on pocket income and finds another contractor with migrants at half price - in 15 million of money, but according to their condition pays them in advance. For instance.
            They get down to business, get an advance, work, and spoil everything. At the same time, 15 million from the budget of customers to order has already "sailed away" for marriage and the wind.
            In order to fulfill the order nevertheless, the ugly foolish customer weaves confession to the first contractor, but on the condition that after the fact of the money he no longer has 30 million, but only 15 million.
            I sent such customers to 3 letters and drove out of the door! It’s more expensive to work with such moron customers and not respect yourself.
            Something similar happened with Bulgarians and Poles.
            1. pytar
              pytar 14 December 2017 19: 24
              +3
              TatyanaWell, let's not argue in terminology!
              Yes, not the numbers, but the headless, redneck system of cooperation.

              And why then do you think that the system is rednecked and headless?
              1. Tatyana
                Tatyana 14 December 2017 19: 30
                +4
                pytar
                And why then do you think that the system is rednecked and headless?

                But because the so-called The "free" market economy of the American Milton Friedman with his monetarism (that is, the pursuit of financial profit by any means) is based solely on corruption enrichment, impoverishment of the people and TMV war.
                1. pytar
                  pytar 14 December 2017 20: 19
                  +3
                  Then it turns out that you are Tatyana, blame the leadership of RSK MiG in the "pursuit of financial profit by any means"! wink And the Bulgarian Defense Ministry is probably blamed for "corruption enrichment"! bully Did I understand you correctly? smile
                  1. Tatyana
                    Tatyana 14 December 2017 20: 27
                    +5
                    pytar
                    you reproach the management of RSK MiG for "pursuit of financial profit by any means"!

                    No, I reproach the politicians of Bulgaria for the betrayal of their former historical allies in the pursuit of profits in the interests of NATO countries against Russia. Bulgaria refused (it terminated the existing contract) initially from the contract for the repair of MiGs with Russia, although it was already essentially unprofitable for Russia. For Russia, it was a question of image prestige, and nothing more! However, all the same, Bulgaria was led by the proposal of the Poles within the framework of NATO's geopolitical interests. Russia warned that this agreement between Bulgaria and Poland is technically insolvent. But did the Bulgarian leadership listen to Russia? Well, that’s what they got ...
                    And now, again, Russia is dissolving all this! Thank you, Bulgarians! I personally would prefer to treat you the same way you treat us!
                    1. zloybond
                      zloybond 14 December 2017 21: 27
                      +1
                      phew! shame of Russia if Nato undertakes to help repair equipment (to his enemies)
                      1. pytar
                        pytar 14 December 2017 22: 46
                        +4
                        phew! no need to help Nat! do not! really a shame! how is that possible ?! negative ops ... and the Turks C-400 belay ah, ah ... recourse
                    2. pytar
                      pytar 14 December 2017 22: 26
                      +3
                      You speak as if you read all the contracts! In fact, you absolutely do not know anything about the issues you are talking about! You and from contracts as a legal concept, obviously do not mean anything! “refused”, “torn apart”, “unprofitable” ... how do you even imagine everything? laughing Do you really think that if there is such a contract, you’ll just shake it and leave it ?! fool Sheer nonsense, Tatyana ... 100% nonsense! wassat
                      1. Tatyana
                        Tatyana 14 December 2017 22: 47
                        +1
                        pytar
                        Do you really think that if there is such a contract, you’ll just shake it and leave it ?!
                        Well, they refuse the same! Of course, not just like that!
                        Any contract always stipulates certain force majeure conditions that allow the parties to terminate it or declare it invalid and null and void. You can bring a lot of things under force majeure. It would be a desire and competent lawyers.
                      2. kapitan92
                        kapitan92 14 December 2017 23: 50
                        +5
                        Quote: pytar
                        Do you really think that if there is such a contract, you’ll just shake it and leave it ?!

                        You are right, what is written with a pen cannot be cut down with an ax. (running).
                        SOFIA, June 16, 2016, 15:20 - REGNUM In connection with the termination of the Belene NPP project, the National Energy Company (NEC) Bulgaria will have to pay 620 million euros to the Russian Atomstroyexport, a decision was made by the arbitration court at the International Chamber of Commerce in Geneva. This was announced today, June 16, by representatives of Rosatom, a REGNUM correspondent reports.

                    3. pytar
                      pytar 15 December 2017 10: 19
                      +2
                      Dear Tatyana, there was no termination of agreements between BG-MO and RSK MiG. Take and look for statements by Ilya Tarasenko, General Director of MiG Corporation,:
                      “In the region on the minalata of Godina Biaha, the sign of confusion and negotiate for the Bulgarian military Air Force. Nie si working with you. Bulgaria didn’t refuse to repair the planes, ”commented Tarasenko.

                      Unprofitable or not, you cannot judge, since you have not seen them. BG signed a contract with Polsh in 2015 for the repair of the 6 engine for 6,138 million euros. The contract is completed. At the beginning of the year, a varian was discussed in BG for repairing MiG-ahs in the Bulgarian company Avionams, which has all the certificates, licenses and equipment. This company has long collaborated with Russian airlines. In it, as a subcontractor of the Republic of Kazakhstan, Mil was repaired, for example, by Afghan helicopters. It is assumed that the repair of the MiGs will be partially / gliders / made in this company, and the contract will be signed with RSK MiG, which will deal mainly with engines and equipment. By the way, Bulgaria bought several engines from the Russian Federation, which have not yet been delivered. Our and Russian arms companies work very well together! So, your assumptions and interpretations clearly do not apply to them ... bully
          2. pytar
            pytar 14 December 2017 18: 24
            +3
            Everything is very simple. The figures announced to the author and to you are taken from the media, and there the numbers diverge greatly. Therefore, everyone can speculate and fantasize, as his imagination allows! laughing
            1. Tatyana
              Tatyana 14 December 2017 18: 28
              +2
              Yes, not the numbers, but the headless, redneck system of cooperation.
              1. pytar
                pytar 14 December 2017 18: 32
                +3
                Sorry, what kind of cooperation are you talking about? request What do you mean?
                1. Tatyana
                  Tatyana 14 December 2017 18: 33
                  +2
                  I am referring to the cooperation discussed in this article.
                  1. pytar
                    pytar 14 December 2017 18: 36
                    +3
                    In article, the word "cooperation" is absent! It says "official Sofia concluded contract with the Russian corporation RSK MiG! "And the contract is another! hi
                    1. Smog
                      Smog 14 December 2017 18: 49
                      +3
                      Quote: pytar
                      In article, the word "cooperation" is absent!

                      The subject of the competition is "Integrated Logistic Support (ILS) "for 48 months 12 MiG-29A aircraft and three MiG-29UB aircraft. The ILP should restore the flight readiness of fighters and ensure a total annual flight time of at least 1450 hours (1000 hours of the MiG-29A and 450 hours of the MiG-29UB) with a fixed cost of each flight hour, "the announcement said.

                      Well, yes, yes. Support for 4 years is not a collaboration at all.
                      1. Tatyana
                        Tatyana 14 December 2017 18: 59
                        +1
                        pytar
                        In article, the word "cooperation" is absent! It says "official Sofia concluded contract with the Russian corporation RSK MiG! "And the contract is another!
                        The contract is between business partners, and this is the cooperation between them. The customer is the Ministry of Defense of Bulgaria or the government of Bulgaria, and the contractor or contractor is the state corporation of the Russian Federation RSK MiG or Russia.
                        It turns out cooperation between Bulgaria and Russia.
                      2. pytar
                        pytar 14 December 2017 19: 11
                        +3
                        This is a frequent condition. contract! For all all conditions, the customer and contractor agree и commit to! True, no one except the calibrated ones knows what exactly he writes in such contracts! bully
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                  2. Smog
                    Smog 14 December 2017 18: 47
                    +4
                    Tatyana! I understand everything! We planned 81 lamas, then we figured it out, scrapped through the gimbal and ..... it turned out to be only 20 .... Well, that’s how they get it. Namely, they get it ...
                    And the Bulgarian "brothers" and the last time on the chest vests tore. Do not even argue. It is useless.
                    1. Tatyana
                      Tatyana 14 December 2017 19: 03
                      +2
                      Smog
                      Tatyana! I understand everything! We planned 81 lyam, then we figured it out, scraped through the gutters and ..... it turned out only 20 ....
                      Well yes! In Poland, the Bulgarians have already "canceled" money for the repair of their MiG fleet of 10 million leva in NATO. The remaining million have disappeared at the "top" of Bulgaria, apparently, "by themselves."
                      For which Bulgaria from the Russians a big "thank you"! Such, here, the policy "profitable" for Russia from the modern "fraternal" Bulgaria is obtained!
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                      2. pytar
                        pytar 14 December 2017 19: 14
                        +3
                        Have you seen at least one official document on the topic that you are commenting on? Nope ...? So all your assumptions are fantasy! wink Well, judging by the reviews, there are also fans of the fanatic genre! Tell us something interesting! good
            2. Tatyana
              Tatyana 14 December 2017 19: 20
              +2
              pytar
              All your assumptions are fantasy! Well, judging by the reviews, there are also fans of the fanatic genre!

              Oh, dear Boyan Ivanov! You are wrong to take offense at us! It would be for us, Russians and Russians, to be offended by you Bulgarians, as you Bulgarians are offended! sad
              1. pytar
                pytar 14 December 2017 19: 31
                +3
                Dear Tatyana, there is not a single gram of resentment in my Russian! Our brothers are Russian, but we are not offended by our brothers! There is surprise at some of the "comments" that "Russian" write in plain sight! For no one is the secret already that there is an information war ... bully
                1. Tatyana
                  Tatyana 14 December 2017 19: 37
                  +1
                  Information war information war! But even in an elementary political situation, ordinary people need to be able to understand objectively. A special mind is not required here - just at least common sense people need to have and unite with each other.
                  All this fuss "above" is directed against us - ordinary citizens of labor. It is for the liberal "elites" that we, ordinary people, are "extra" people on earth and are subject to "biological" disposal according to their plans. And we, ordinary people, against this background, in all countries we divide each other according to nationality, although we will all have one destiny - and very bitter.
                  1. pytar
                    pytar 14 December 2017 20: 37
                    +4
                    Yes. I think ... you're right. Unfortunately sad
                  2. midivan
                    midivan 15 December 2017 00: 10
                    +1
                    Quote: Tatiana
                    All this fuss "above" is directed against us - ordinary citizens of labor. It is for the liberal "leaders" that we, ordinary people, are "extra" people on earth and are subject to "biological" disposal according to their plans.

                    belay Yeah, it can't be like that! And who then will hump at this? Robots work happy liberal? But to hell with them, robots need to be created and maintained laughing
                2. midivan
                  midivan 15 December 2017 00: 19
                  +3
                  Quote: pytar
                  Dear Tatyana, I don’t have a single gram of resentment in Russian! Our brothers are Russian, but we are not offended by our brothers!

                  Yeah, how the brothers will squeeze so. The European wolf is your brother, but I’m closer to Tambov yes wink
                  1. pytar
                    pytar 15 December 2017 09: 33
                    +2
                    I am writing to Russian brothers, not for you midivan... laughing
  2. antivirus
    antivirus 14 December 2017 17: 42
    0
    THEN SELL IN SYRIA
    and buy 3 eF16
    1. Smog
      Smog 14 December 2017 18: 09
      +1
      And to Syria, then to whom? Bearded boys? Rather, in Ukraine .... And they will knock out debt for a long time .....
      1. bouncyhunter
        bouncyhunter 14 December 2017 18: 38
        +2
        Kostya, hi bro! soldier drinks First, the repaired MiGs fly out of their resources in Bulgaria - and there you can sell dill, if, of course, the ukrareich still exists by that time ... wink
        1. Kasym
          Kasym 14 December 2017 18: 53
          +3
          Great, Pasha! These MiGs do not fly for a long time even after repair. The MiG-29 has a very small resource on the fuselage. Somewhere 25 years. It is easy to calculate that they are on the verge. hi
          1. bouncyhunter
            bouncyhunter 14 December 2017 18: 56
            +3
            Dauren, good to see! hi It is clear that metal fatigue is already outrageous there, but apparently the game is worth the candle if the Bulgarians are ready to repair them, and the Russians take it for repair.
            1. Kasym
              Kasym 14 December 2017 18: 58
              +3
              They stood on the ground and did not fly. That's why there is still some kind of resource. I think it’s better to repair it ourselves than the grandmothers will leave for Ukraine (Odessa). We repaired there, even before the Maidan. hi
              1. bouncyhunter
                bouncyhunter 14 December 2017 19: 04
                +2
                Alternatively, the Bulgarians could contact us at the 558th ARZ (Baranavichy), but they prefer to repair it in Russia. Apparently, there are some intricacies unknown to us. And did you have all the completeness after repair in Odessa? wink
                1. Kasym
                  Kasym 14 December 2017 19: 08
                  +3
                  I have not heard about complaints about the repair of the MiG-29. We have our Su-27 repaired. Cheaper for you than in Russia.
                  The Bulgarians, it seems to me, have greatly substituted themselves and now they want to do everything to resume projects with the Russian Federation on their territory. Policy. hi
                  1. bouncyhunter
                    bouncyhunter 14 December 2017 19: 12
                    +3
                    Quote: Kasym
                    The Bulgarians, it seems to me, have greatly substituted themselves and now they want to do everything to resume projects with the Russian Federation on their territory. Policy.

                    I meant it by intricacies.
              2. Frogfoot
                Frogfoot 14 December 2017 23: 37
                +3
                It doesn’t matter whether the equipment was in operation or in operation. A resource, for example, between repairs - is calculated in hours / years. Even if it took off in just 10 hour in 1 years, it is still obliged to undergo repairs. Accordingly, the designated service life will also decrease. And officially the resource can be extended only to the developer of the aircraft - RSK MiG.
          2. Frogfoot
            Frogfoot 14 December 2017 23: 25
            +2
            You're not right. What does “small fuselage resource” mean? It is almost the same as the T-10S. After the overhaul is completed, the resource is extended, including the fuselage. Fly it for about 10 years after the repair. By the way, in Belarus, the sparks underwent a third (!) Overhaul. Count how much they already! https://www.3arp.by/ru/about-us-rus/news-rus/ne
            ws-14-rus
      2. antivirus
        antivirus 14 December 2017 21: 44
        0
        it will be a curtsy to our allies-- the “pro-Moscow deal” is the maximum of eastern policy
  3. pytar
    pytar 14 December 2017 17: 48
    +3
    Initially, the country stated that it was necessary to rearm the aircraft on NATO aircraft. After calculating the funds in the military budget, we decided to stop on the repair of existing Soviet equipment.

    No one canceled the intentions of the Bulgarian government to buy new aircraft! In 2018, they will determine the parameters of the upcoming tender. Bulgarian military Minister Krasimir Karakachanov said that those in service with the MiG-29 will be maintained in constant flying validity by 70%, in parallel with those new fighters that will be bought! And nowhere is it a question of "NATO" destroyers, as the article writes! The preferred model for analysis by experts with VMs is the Swedish JAS-39 Gripen. Sweden is not NATO member country!
    1. antivirus
      antivirus 14 December 2017 21: 46
      0
      Sweden is not a member country of NATO!
      Saudis are also not in NATO and South Korea, and how many more ---
      1. pytar
        pytar 14 December 2017 22: 30
        +3
        Yeah, and how much more ... Not a question here in the NAT. The Russian Federation does not now have a light single-engine supersonic fighter which the markets can offer. Fact.
    2. MOSKVITYANIN
      MOSKVITYANIN 15 December 2017 00: 48
      +2
      Quote: pytar
      No one canceled the intentions of the Bulgarian government to buy new aircraft! Bulgarian military Minister Krasimir Karakachanov said that those in service with the MiG-29 will be maintained in constant flying validity by 70%, in parallel with those new fighters that will be bought! And nowhere is it a question of "NATO" destroyers, as the article writes! The preferred model for analysis by experts with VMs is the Swedish JAS-39 Gripen. Sweden is not NATO member country!

      Che yelling?
      When other countries of the former Warsaw Pact, such as the Czech Republic and Romania, began to participate in NATO operations, Bulgaria was far behind and the outdated fleet of its aircraft does not simplify this task. Having a standard of living in 60% of the EU, Bulgaria remains the poorest country in the EU. None of the Bulgarian fighters can refuel in the air, that is, participation in operations like the Libyan or the conflict in Afghanistan is not even discussed.

      But with the "occupiers" you had:
      Under Soviet influence, the Bulgarian economy flourished and living standards rose significantly. Since the country was on the first line of defense, having Turkey and Greece as neighbors, its The Air Force grew rapidly and reached a very advanced level. In the 1989, the Bulgarian Air Force was armed with the order of 300 fighters, mainly Soviet MiG-21 and MiG-29, but there were also MiG-23, MiG-25, Su-22 and Su-25.

      I wish you to stay in the same .... in which you put your country forever, gee .... "bro" ....
      1. pytar
        pytar 15 December 2017 12: 24
        +3
        Che yelling?

        It seems so to you. Calm down! Nervousness is not good ... wink
        .... Bulgaria is far behind and the outdated fleet of its aircraft does not simplify this task. With a standard of living at 60% of the EU, Bulgaria remains the poorest country in the EU. None of the Bulgarian fighters can refuel in the air ...

        Bulgaria does not have such a task. The Bulgarian Air Force has purely selective tasks. Upcoming aircraft update. Funds on this accumulated.
        Bulgaria is the "poorest" country in the EU. But she entered the 2 place in the EU in terms of GDP growth! 5 years, keep growth in 3,5-3,8%! In 2017 year, reach 50 billion euros, which is an absolute record for BG! In 2018, it is expected to reach 52 mrd. evra! By percentage growth in salaries, Bulgaria is already ahead of everyone in the EU. The distance is decreasing! By the ratio of external debt to GDP, Bulgaria is included in the 3 list of EU countries with the best GDP: GDP = 18%! Foreign exchange reserves reached 23,5 mrd. evra! UTB can call it "Well ..." And to us on a drum on such.
        Under Soviet influence, the Bulgarian economy flourished and living standards rose significantly.

        It blossomed, but pepper blossomed ... 3 times it was bankrupt during soc. By 1990, it had foreign exchange reserves of 300 million dollars, and it was necessary to pay creditors 1 000 000 dollars!
        Since the country was on the first line of defense, having Turkey and Greece as neighbors, its air forces grew rapidly and reached a very perfect level.

        Because of the need to organize a world revolution, a third of the budget went into service! There were enemies everywhere! And then it was full w ...! Today, Bulgaria maintains the best relations with its neighbors in history! No need from a mountain of weapons!
        That's all in real life! And what you write is a fantasy ... You need to watch less TV ... wink
        1. pytar
          pytar 15 December 2017 12: 38
          +1
          approx. not 1 000 000 dollars, but 1 000 000 000 dollars!
        2. MOSKVITYANIN
          MOSKVITYANIN 15 December 2017 19: 49
          0
          pytar But she entered the 2 place in the EU in terms of GDP growth!

          Don’t drive us .... we ourselves love Bazhov's tales .... from Kiselyov to listen ....
          1. pytar
            pytar 15 December 2017 21: 10
            +2
            Don’t drive us .... we ourselves love Bazhov's tales .... from Kiselyov to listen ....

            That you love listening to Kiselev’s tales, I know ... laughing Yes, and love to tell fairy tales! lol But look for info and read, not really like it. Especially when the reality is different from your ideas. wink
  4. Safer
    Safer 14 December 2017 17: 54
    0
    I'm confused. What modifications do they have there? 9-12 A / B? But what's the point of extending the life of gliders and replacing engines? They will bring their 12 children of the Bulgarian Frankshtein. Surely there are already a lot of modifications in avionics and fire control system. The resource can be extended, but it is still patients on mechanical ventilation.
    1. pytar
      pytar 14 December 2017 18: 13
      +3
      In 1987, negotiations are underway for the purchase of 24 br. MiG-29. Deliveries begin in 1988. First deliver 4 br. (product 9-12А) for the price of 11 600 000 transferable rubles and 2 br. (product 9-51) for the price of 12 300 000 for one copy. In the period from 1988-89, only 18 br. due to the increased (above 12 mln pp) intertemporal price. The Bulgarian MiG-29 delivered more modern engines (with increased resource) than previously supplied GDRs.
  5. Ankipelgygyrgyn
    Ankipelgygyrgyn 14 December 2017 18: 03
    +2
    For "bros" it is necessary to multiply the normal price by eight. And if they don’t like it, let them go to the forest or to the Ukrainians, which, in principle, is one and the same.
    1. pytar
      pytar 14 December 2017 18: 26
      +3
      Take the calculator and multiply until the battery dies! good laughing
  6. Thracian warrior
    Thracian warrior 14 December 2017 18: 21
    +1
    Quote: DEZINTO
    F - 35 let Europeans buy figs!

    Our President knows how to fly to MiG, and yours? tongue
    1. pytar
      pytar 14 December 2017 18: 34
      +2
      Well, they worked in different professions ... wink
    2. midivan
      midivan 15 December 2017 00: 45
      +2
      Quote: Thracian Warrior
      Our President knows how to fly to MiG, and yours?

      tongue tongue tongue What kind of cigarettes do you like, BT or Stewardess? laughing
      1. zivXP
        zivXP 15 December 2017 11: 42
        0
        Native regiment. He also served in Machuli. wink
    3. MOSKVITYANIN
      MOSKVITYANIN 15 December 2017 00: 51
      +2
      Quote: Thracian warrior
      Our President knows how to fly to MiG, and yours? tongue

      Bulgaria spans like plywood over Paris with its president as a raider pilot ... gee ...
    4. Victor Dubovitsky
      Victor Dubovitsky 15 December 2017 11: 16
      0
      Quote: Thracian warrior
      Quote: DEZINTO
      F - 35 let Europeans buy figs!

      Our President knows how to fly to MiG, and yours? tongue

      From a good President you need something else.
      Poroshenko out, knows how to drink vodka in buckets. Does yours know how?
  7. Bratyshka
    Bratyshka 14 December 2017 19: 01
    +2
    Already not funny. Someone is very haunted by Bulgaria.
    Why is it inciting Bulgarianophobia?
    And what kind of news? That we repair cheaply? Or about what is expensive? The fact that we deceived the Bulgarians? Or are they us?
    That someone, including the author, has information about the cost of repairs?
    Empty, not an article
    1. pytar
      pytar 14 December 2017 19: 19
      +3
      Already not funny. Someone is very haunted by Bulgaria. Why is it inciting Bulgarianophobia?

      Brother, this is so for all Russian-speaking resources! Wherever you look at the same stamps replicate! Sometimes in the "comments" even, the grammatical errors are the same! Bulgaria really does not give anyone peace! Someone is very interested in inciting Bulgarian -ophobic sentiments among Russians! It happens when someone really wants to set a brother against a brother! And he is our common enemy!
      1. kirgiz58
        kirgiz58 14 December 2017 20: 05
        +3
        Quote: pytar
        It happens when someone really wants to set a brother against a brother! And he is our common enemy!

        Are you talking about your president and government? And do you want us to consider a friend a member of an organization that wants our death?
        1. pytar
          pytar 14 December 2017 20: 45
          +2
          Not. Not about yours and not about your government and presidents. And about those who, on forums and through the media, train people and nations against one another. As soon as someone begins XXX to fight, he opens up like a provocateur. Something suspiciously many superpatriots began to write against other peoples. This is fake patriotism! Patriotism implies love for one’s country and people, but not hatred for other nations and countries!
          1. kirgiz58
            kirgiz58 14 December 2017 20: 50
            +5
            Quote: pytar
            but not hatred of foreign nations and countries!

            Do you propose loving the people of an enemy who desires my death?
            1. pytar
              pytar 15 December 2017 12: 43
              +2
              Do you propose loving the people of an enemy who desires my death?

              I suggest men to love women. wink So it’s more correct ... laughing I do not recommend at all that the “people of the enemy" would love the kirgiz of 58! Such a mask would have ended badly for you! lol
              1. kirgiz58
                kirgiz58 15 December 2017 13: 34
                0
                Quote: pytar
                I absolutely do not recommend that the "people of the enemy" love Kirgiz on the 58th!

                You can’t! I advise you about tongue look more often so that your amerzot friends don't go 6, they are like that, they are tolerasts
                1. pytar
                  pytar 15 December 2017 13: 54
                  +2
                  What we can ... but we don’t want kirgiz58. laughing We are conservative traditionalists and love our wives! And we love Russian wives! It is in Bulgaria 90% of all marriages from a foreign woman, it is a marriage between a Bulgarian and a Russian! yes There is no place for tolerasts here! Balkan customs are tough! angry
                  1. kirgiz58
                    kirgiz58 15 December 2017 14: 04
                    0
                    Quote: pytar
                    What we can ... but we don’t want kirgiz58.

                    And who will ask you will be. Bend and crawl, as with the "southern stream", they order and bend themselves, they are already bending. It is sad to watch.
                    1. pytar
                      pytar 15 December 2017 14: 30
                      +2
                      It’s sad to see how your concepts diverge from reality! I repeat the forums for 2 years that the question with UP is not closedbut no one believed. I warned all the time - do not rush to conclusions! They will not tell you what is really happening behind the scenes! Here is a little info on the topic:
                      https://rus.bg/ekonomika/ekonomika/21479-k
                      habertyurk-turetskij-potok-projdet-cherez-bolgari
                      yu
                      https://rus.bg/esche/smi-o-bolgarii/smi/20
                      075-bnr-turetskij-potok-v-mechtakh-bolgarskogo-pr
                      emera-borisova # comments
                      https://rus.bg/ekonomika/ekonomika/21483-p
                      remer-borisov-turetskij-potok-projdet-cherez-bolg
                      ariyu-eto-uzhe-davno-yasno
                      Wait for more news soon ... bully
  8. Sergey53
    Sergey53 14 December 2017 19: 09
    +1
    Recently, a figure of $ 48 million was featured. Now figured already 12 million. Degradation is going fast. Insist on a free repair. Why trifle.
    1. pytar
      pytar 14 December 2017 19: 37
      +2
      This is where this or that figure quoted by you "figured"? bully
      1. Sergey53
        Sergey53 14 December 2017 20: 13
        +2
        An article entitled "Sofia turned to Russia to repair the MiG-29 of the Bulgarian Air Force." 11.12 here. I just made a mistake 49mln and not 48mln $. wassat
        1. pytar
          pytar 14 December 2017 20: 48
          +3
          Do not worry about your mistakes! 1 million. UTB in general pocket money! A trifle! wink After all, no one knows the exact amount and terms of the contracts. All blah blah are based on different articles in the media. And there they write everything. laughing
          1. MOSKVITYANIN
            MOSKVITYANIN 15 December 2017 00: 54
            +1
            Quote: pytar
            All blah blah are based on different articles in the media. And there they write everything. laughing

            And why are you turning over here laughing ?
            1. pytar
              pytar 15 December 2017 12: 53
              +2
              And why are you turning over here

              The famous philosopher Immanuel Kant answers your "question" like this: "What can I learn ?, What should I do? What should I hope for?"
              So here I am with children cantI'm here! If such a philosophy is too complicated for you, I’ll explain it more simply! Topics about Bulgaria are interesting to me, as this is my homeland. In addition, I am personally connected with Russia. bully
              1. MOSKVITYANIN
                MOSKVITYANIN 16 December 2017 00: 53
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                Quote: pytar
                And why are you turning over here

                The famous philosopher Immanuel Kant answers your "question" like this: "What can I learn ?, What should I do? What should I hope for?"
                So here I am with children cantI'm here! If such a philosophy is too complicated for you,

                You understood the disease, but what does the philosophy have to do with it (by the way? Philosophy of law, social, gee ....), there is a forum on military subjects, and you drive bullshit without any support, and you drive with convinced and impassable t .... ..Yu
                Support your respected (?) Economic calculations on the growth of the well-being of the people of Bulgaria since you entered the EU .... then we’ll talk about Kant ....
  9. Wolka
    Wolka 14 December 2017 19: 32
    0
    bros, but why do you need to fly, nobody is going to attack you, especially from the air, aviation today is primarily a strike weapon, i.e. an attack weapon, or it’s also going to go to the superpowers, live peacefully and no one will touch you, the S-300 or S-400 will be more than enough for you on the rolls, counter your Turks and do so ...
    1. pytar
      pytar 14 December 2017 20: 55
      +4
      Historically, Bulgaria was one of the first in the world to use aircraft in a war! 1912-1913. There are traditions. And besides, our Bulgarian sky is blue and blue! Beauty! It’s a sin not to fly into it! fellow My guests from Russia often say: “In Bulgaria, the sky is bright, huge! At the same time it looks close! You can touch it with your hand!” smile
      And as they say, if you want peace, be ready for war! In short, keep the gunpowder dry. soldier
  10. Victor Dubovitsky
    Victor Dubovitsky 14 December 2017 23: 28
    +1
    pytar,
    You are not worth anything to us. We quarrel the Turks with NATO complexes, which is much more valuable.
    1. pytar
      pytar 14 December 2017 23: 48
      +2
      Victor and you ... and you are worthless ... yes laughing But when you become president of the Russian Federation, then speak on behalf of all of Russia! Although judging by your megalomaniac posts, you are likely to become Napoleon! There are many more! wassat
  11. pytar
    pytar 14 December 2017 23: 57
    +2
    Quote: Tatiana
    pytar
    Do you really think that if there is such a contract, you’ll just shake it and leave it ?!
    Well, they refuse the same! Of course, not just like that!
    Any contract always stipulates certain force majeure conditions that allow the parties to terminate it or declare it invalid and null and void. You can bring a lot of things under force majeure. It would be a desire and competent lawyers.

    I don’t want to offend you, but you obviously didn’t see others besides utility bills. You confuse agreements with other types of disputes of a non-binding nature. Okay, I won’t give legal lessons. Remain in your erroneous beliefs. After all, the most convinced are those who know less. I wish you all the best! love
    1. Tatyana
      Tatyana 15 December 2017 08: 24
      0
      pytar
      I don’t want to offend you, but you obviously didn’t see others besides utility bills.
      You are mistaken. I have a second higher education in the specialty "Manager of financial, economic and administrative departments" Department of Entrepreneurship and Commercial Activities. Academy of Management Methods and Techniques. I have entered into so many responsible contracts with other companies that you have never dreamed of!
      1. pytar
        pytar 15 December 2017 09: 44
        +2
        You are mistaken. I have a second higher education in the specialty "Manager of financial, economic and administrative departments" Department of Entrepreneurship and Commercial Activities. Academy of Management Methods and Techniques. I have entered into so many responsible contracts with other companies that you have never dreamed of!

        They were surprised! You have such a long qualification, it’s even difficult to read! belay And when do you sign the responsible contracts, do you even read them? wink Okay, joking! lol
        Tatyana, can you show, prove that someone violated them, refused, etc., in support of your assertions about the agreements between the BG government and the MiG RSK? wink Hardly, because your "info" is from the media, and there they write everything. Contracts of this type are not public.
        What I dreamed you have no idea! But I basically sleep soundly! laughing
        1. Tatyana
          Tatyana 15 December 2017 10: 26
          0
          pytar
          What I dreamed you have no idea! But I basically sleep soundly!
          I wish you to sleep soundly and further!
          1. pytar
            pytar 15 December 2017 14: 56
            +2
            I wish you to sleep soundly and further!

            And you! In an embrace with anyone ... Then you will have good dreams! good
  12. but still
    but still 15 December 2017 01: 38
    +1
    pytar,
    Quote: pytar
    phew! no need to help Nat! do not! really a shame! how is that possible ?! negative ops ... and the Turks C-400 belay ah, ah ... recourse

    good Not in the eyebrow, but in the eye!
    1. MOSKVITYANIN
      MOSKVITYANIN 15 December 2017 07: 14
      +1
      yourself, do you comment?
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  14. Thracian warrior
    Thracian warrior 15 December 2017 11: 23
    +1
    Quote: bouncyhunter
    Kostya, hi bro! soldier drinks First, the repaired MiGs fly out of their resources in Bulgaria - and there you can sell dill, if, of course, the ukrareich still exists by that time ... wink

    Pasha, let's go back to the room, in vain jumped up, the doctor will give an injection and everything will be easier.
  15. earloop
    earloop 16 December 2017 00: 01
    0
    "Dear Tatyana, I don’t have a single gram of resentment against Russians! Russians are our brothers, but we are not offended by our brothers!"
    So wrote the "brother" from Bulgaria.
    But, why, the "brothers" with such frenzy destroyed the nuclear power plant under construction and violently rejected the "gas stream"? there were some inconsistencies with Alyosha. Therefore, for the frenzy, hostility and rage shown in economic relations, in further transactions, the "brothers" should raise the prices of the requested services a considerable number of times, so that they remember and respect.
    1. pytar
      pytar 16 December 2017 00: 46
      +2
      1. All Slavs are brothers. It's not about you cocks. Well, you got it right ... wink
      2. What do you know about nuclear power plants, UP, Alyosha ...? Where do you get information on these issues? Will you share it?
      1. earloop
        earloop 16 December 2017 23: 05
        +1
        Where do you get information on these issues? Will you share it? ”“ Once you had to teach little brothers.
    2. MOSKVITYANIN
      MOSKVITYANIN 16 December 2017 00: 56
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      Quote: earloop
      "Dear Tatyana, I don’t have a single gram of resentment against Russians! Russians are our brothers, but we are not offended by our brothers!"
      So wrote the "brother" from Bulgaria.


      His involuntarily brother!