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Moldavian Government: Romanian will be listed as official in the constitution instead of Moldovan

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The Cabinet of Ministers of Moldova approved the draft law, proposing amendments to the constitution of the country. We are talking about a draft law, on the basis of which the official language of the country, enshrined in the Constitution of the Republic of Moldova, will not be Moldovan, but Romanian.


The Moldovan government is going to change the 13 th constitutional article. In particular, the phrase “Moldovan language functioning on the basis of the use of Latin graphics” is supposed to be replaced by the notion of “Romanian”. In fact, the Cabinet of Ministers refuses Moldova's identity.

Moldovan media report that such changes have already been approved by the Constitutional Court of the Republic of Moldova.

Moldavian Government: Romanian will be listed as official in the constitution instead of Moldovan


Proponents of replacing the “Moldovan language” with the “Romanian language” in the country's constitution state that these languages ​​are “practically indistinguishable”. Opponents of this kind of change suggest that innovation undermines Moldovan sovereignty and once again makes it clear that Moldovan authorities are not able to solve much more pressing problems - in particular, the problem of removing the Moldovan economy from a deep and protracted crisis.
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  1. 210ox
    210ox 14 December 2017 06: 46
    +5
    Everything is clear with them .... Well, how are you? Moldovans ?!
    1. Shurale
      Shurale 14 December 2017 06: 53
      +6
      Yes, just like ours. The government declares to us that we cannot save money not because we don’t have it, but we don’t have money because we don’t save it, but we are silent. Only in Ukraine we were not afraid and removed the thief from the presidency, and we can’t even just gather in our city and protest ... We are afraid to express even a protest against overt mockery! And you hope that it will be better? On what basis? That they themselves suddenly become decent people and stop stealing? What is real?
      1. Frol 7525
        Frol 7525 14 December 2017 07: 00
        +7
        Quote: Shurale
        Yes, just like ours. The government declares to us that we cannot save money not because we don’t have it, but we don’t have money because we don’t save it, but we are silent. Only in Ukraine we were not afraid and removed the thief from the presidency, and we cannot even just gather in our city and protest ... We are afraid to express even a protest against outright bullying!

        wink
        1. dik-nsk
          dik-nsk 14 December 2017 07: 03
          12
          competent Romanian policy, slow but sure seizure of the territory without any annexations .. in 5-10 years they’ll join without noise and dust
        2. Shurale
          Shurale 14 December 2017 07: 08
          +1
          Cool picture, probably, but it definitely proves that these people will never achieve anything in their life.
        3. Vladimir16
          Vladimir16 14 December 2017 07: 26
          11
          Quote: Shurale
          Yes, just like ours. The government tells us

          Where are you from? Ukrainian offended by fate and abandoned in Zimbabwe? Also forced to learn Romanian or immediately gypsy? wassat
      2. 210ox
        210ox 14 December 2017 07: 01
        +3
        I completely agree with you .. And by the way, I do not hope for the best with such power. Read my comments.
        1. Vladimir16
          Vladimir16 14 December 2017 07: 28
          +6
          Quote: 210ox
          Read my comments.

          Oh, damn philosophers at least! Do not remind your last name? Something I do not recognize you in makeup laughing
          who doesn’t read without a call? laughing lol love
      3. Mwg
        Mwg 14 December 2017 07: 13
        14
        For Shurale.
        And you, dear banker? Otherwise, what kind of cry for not deferred money? Money as a means of accumulation is the goal, first of all, of financial structures.
        For us, ordinary citizens, this is a means of circulation and a means of payment.
        And another question: how in your city are they mocking residents? Whip or put on peas? If money does not allow to save, then yes, this is a sophisticated mockery. Straight sadists. And you didn’t eat there in your city? For protests against this are a unique idea. I have not heard that before. And to protest against the onset of winter, for example? Give it a try! After all, a liberal understanding of rights allows
      4. user1212
        user1212 14 December 2017 07: 32
        +7
        Quote: Shurale
        Yes, just like ours

        This is a big compliment to Moldova. laughing
        Quote: Shurale
        Only in Ukraine were not afraid and removed the thief from the presidency

        And how are you doing? lol
        Quote: Shurale
        and we can’t even just gather in our city and protest ...

        Yes the truth is that. Bortsunov PR on all channels, the largest state-owned company sponsors the largest opposition media, "Sisyan" travels around the country with rallies, and not in a special car at the stage, and all "no freedom of speech"
      5. AID.S
        AID.S 14 December 2017 07: 53
        +2
        Quote: Shurale
        Only in Ukraine they were not afraid and removed the thief from the presidency, and we cannot even just gather in our city and protest.


        "Everywhere we hear groans. From all over our vast country they cry out for help. We must lend a helping hand, and we will extend it."
        1. novel66
          novel66 14 December 2017 09: 26
          +5
          and abroad will help us! laughing
      6. Cxnumx
        Cxnumx 14 December 2017 07: 59
        +2
        Quote: Shurale
        and we can’t even just gather in our city and protest ... We’re afraid to express even a protest against outright bullying!

        why can't you? who is hindering? why are you afraid? who is bullying? local authorities? appealed to the regional prosecutor? or higher instance? maybe to reporters? or wait "when the corpse of an enemy swims past"? so do not wait - the river can dry out.
      7. BMP-2
        BMP-2 14 December 2017 09: 43
        +5
        Just do not flood about the fact that in Ukraine the thief was removed by Ukrainians! And yet, yes, after the thief has changed in Ukraine, it has become better: a new thief steals three times better and tightens the screws three times stronger !!! yes
      8. Dedall
        Dedall 14 December 2017 19: 20
        +1
        Judging by the "nickname", you are from Tatarstan (in Tatar "shurale" - damn). So to say, an orphan from Kazan, where movement is also taking place with the introduction of the Latin alphabet. And I can say that this is nothing more than a well-stocked money campaign held by SAS and MI6 together with friends from Langley. Like the processes that are going on in Ukraine.
    2. Mar.Tirah
      Mar.Tirah 14 December 2017 08: 02
      +1
      But Moldovans like Ukrainians, languages ​​in one place, and they look who will take it? With the only difference being that in Ukraine, on the contrary, only Ukrainian can be the official language.
    3. Finches
      Finches 14 December 2017 08: 20
      +4
      It’s time for Dodon to take power into his own hands, otherwise tomorrow he will be in prison ... Bucharest! laughing
    4. trampoline instructor
      trampoline instructor 14 December 2017 08: 50
      +1
      Tat e foarte frumos!
  2. Alexander 3
    Alexander 3 14 December 2017 06: 51
    +3
    And Romanians will write in the passports in the column of nationality. Forgive Moldovans?
    1. trampoline instructor
      trampoline instructor 14 December 2017 09: 08
      +1
      In Moldovan passports there are NO columns "nationality". And it never was.
      1. werevolf75
        werevolf75 14 December 2017 13: 45
        0
        Do not be so categorical. In Moldovan citizenship, but in English?
        1. trampoline instructor
          trampoline instructor 14 December 2017 14: 03
          0
          citizenship?
    2. alatanas
      alatanas 14 December 2017 10: 23
      +1
      It is not written in Austrian passports - German and Austria are not a German province!
  3. user1212
    user1212 14 December 2017 06: 52
    +2
    "Independent" Moldova laughing
    1. verner1967
      verner1967 14 December 2017 07: 20
      +6
      Quote: user1212
      "Independent" Moldova

      it’s interesting when in Russia they say that there was no such state as Ukraine, this is considered correct, but the fact that Bessarabia is part of Romania is wrong. So where is the truth? Moldovans want to be Romanians, so it is their right. It is better to think about how to make Russia such a state so that other political entities around it would like to become part of Russia.
      1. Vladimir16
        Vladimir16 14 December 2017 07: 38
        10
        Quote: verner1967
        and the fact that Bessarabia is part of Romania is wrong.

        It was the Great Patriotic War and we won. Padla Romanians, Germans and other Europeans came to us with the war. Millions of our relatives were killed. As a result, we conquered the evil spirits under the names - Germans, Romanians and other Europeans.
        So do you understand?
        Moldova is the result of our victory over the aggressor - fascists, Nazis and other evil spirits from Europe ...
        The humpbacked bastard gave the Russian lands to all the vampires to be torn to pieces. And people like you now have a coven. As a result, they put you on cancer, and you blame the Russians for everything. Although the third ten years you live under mattresses. Independent. laughing
        As a result, the gypsies will rule in Moldova. They are much more practical than liberalists.
        1. verner1967
          verner1967 14 December 2017 19: 05
          0
          Quote: Vladimir16
          And people like you

          I didn’t hire pigs to help you, do it yourself.
          Quote: Vladimir16
          Moldova is the result of our victory over the aggressor

          nonsense, Moldova until the October Revolution was part of the Russian Empire, after the coup the Bolsheviks released it into free swimming, then joined it promising the freedom of self-determination, after the 91st Communists again said “take as much democracy as you can,” so they left, this is their right granted to them USSR Constitution
          Quote: Vladimir16
          So do you understand?
          1. trampoline instructor
            trampoline instructor 14 December 2017 21: 00
            +1
            A bit wrong. In free swimming, the Bolsheviks released Poland and Finland. And the Romanians captured Bessarabia. And no one recognized this capture in the world. And first of all, the Bolsheviks themselves did not recognize. At that time, they simply had no opportunity to oppose anything to the Romanians.
            1. verner1967
              verner1967 15 December 2017 18: 21
              0
              Quote: Trampoline area instructor
              And no one recognized this capture in the world. And first of all, the Bolsheviks themselves did not recognize.

              In the Bucharest world of 1812, Bessarabia was annexed to Russia (which in Romanian historiography is called the "abduction of Bessarabia") and the Bessarabian region was formed on its territory in 1818, and in 1873 - the province.
              Romanians have not recognized before, so what?
              1. trampoline instructor
                trampoline instructor 15 December 2017 18: 55
                0
                Nothing. Yellow shoes.
                1. verner1967
                  verner1967 15 December 2017 19: 52
                  0
                  Quote: Trampoline area instructor
                  It's nothing.

                  so from ....
                  1. trampoline instructor
                    trampoline instructor 15 December 2017 20: 38
                    0
                    Post 18.21. 2 quotes and your remark: “Romanians did not recognize before ...” What did the Romanians not recognize?
      2. trampoline instructor
        trampoline instructor 14 December 2017 09: 09
        0
        And at what time was Bessarabia a part of Romania?
      3. EwgenyZ
        EwgenyZ 14 December 2017 10: 38
        +8
        And when was Moldova a part of Romania? Correctly, after the occupation in 1918, during this brief period, Moldova was part of Romania. And before that, modern Moldova was called the Bessarabian province, and was part of Russia. And when Besarabia became part of Russia, Romania itself was part of another state. And if we talk about the historical right of reunification, then reunification with Russia, and not with Romania.
        1. trampoline instructor
          trampoline instructor 14 December 2017 14: 05
          +3
          Bessarabia became part of Russia in 1812. Romania as a state at that time was not yet.
          1. EwgenyZ
            EwgenyZ 14 December 2017 14: 27
            +1
            Quote: trampoline instructor
            Bessarabia became part of Russia in 1812. Romania as a state at that time was not yet.

            Duck and I about it!
        2. verner1967
          verner1967 15 December 2017 18: 15
          0
          Quote: EwgenyZ
          And if we talk about the historical right of reunification, then reunification with Russia, and not with Romania.

          why do they have the same language? the fact that they were dragged away by individual states does not change anything. When we talk about the "Russian world" we mean first of all the people, not the territories
          1. trampoline instructor
            trampoline instructor 15 December 2017 18: 59
            +1
            If the Moldovan-Romanian dictionary was released, then this suggests that the languages ​​are still different. Similar but different.
            1. verner1967
              verner1967 15 December 2017 19: 53
              0
              Quote: Trampoline area instructor
              Similar but different.

              They seem even more than Russian with Ukrainian and Belarusian, but nevertheless we are “fraternal peoples”. Have you tried to compare Russian and Moldavian? lol
              1. trampoline instructor
                trampoline instructor 15 December 2017 20: 40
                0
                Do not exaggerate.
                “... we are“ fraternal peoples. ”Sorry, who are we talking about?
  4. Mwg
    Mwg 14 December 2017 06: 54
    10
    The language will be Romanian, the currency is American, the European identity, but will they still go to work in the Russian Federation?
    1. trampoline instructor
      trampoline instructor 14 December 2017 08: 47
      +1
      1. They spoke about the Romanian language for a long time. Now we have reached the constitution.
      2. The American currency there is not in great favor. On the first, second, third - the euro. All prices for large purchases are only in euros.
      3. Self-awareness there is rural, not European.
      4. Only a part of Moldavians travels to work in Russia, although more. But many left for Italy, Spain, Greece, and Israel. They are better fed there.
  5. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 14 December 2017 06: 58
    +1
    Moldovan undermines innovation sovereignty
    Sovereignty disappeared with the collapse of the USSR. Romania immediately actively involved in the process of "development" of Moldova and its territories. It remains to abolish the border with Romania and surrender power.
  6. askort154
    askort154 14 December 2017 06: 59
    +1
    They drag Moldova into the Khokhlyatsk rut. fool
  7. Herculesic
    Herculesic 14 December 2017 07: 06
    +1
    Moldovans went to Romanian fool Here you have the slave essence at the genetic level.
    1. Same lech
      Same lech 14 December 2017 07: 33
      +2
      But what about Transnistria ... with its Russian population?
      war again or what?
      Pridnestrovians disagree and there will certainly be a conflict between Chisinau and them ... including the military.
      1. osoboye_mneniye
        osoboye_mneniye 14 December 2017 07: 58
        +4
        With the Donbass and the Crimea, it also began. The authorities decided to deprive people of their native language.
        In Moldova, a completely planned action to foment war. Our partners will make all the borders of Russia blaze.
        Central Asia and Belarus at gunpoint. In the other former republics, there is a war - Ukraine, Moldova, Armenia, Azerbaijan, Georgia.
        1. trampoline instructor
          trampoline instructor 14 December 2017 08: 39
          +1
          Moldova does NOT border Russia.
          And who in Moldova will fight with whom? So far there is NO war.
          1. osoboye_mneniye
            osoboye_mneniye 14 December 2017 11: 56
            0
            Quote: Trampoline area instructor
            Moldova does NOT border Russia.

            And much easier for us from this? But it borders with other former republics. And the border is all of them - welcome!
            Quote: Trampoline area instructor
            And who in Moldova will fight with whom? So far there is NO war.

            What are you saying? And Transnistria, therefore, live there for their own pleasure ..
            And in Ukraine, who is fighting with whom?
            But, of course, you know better from the trampoline zone))
            1. trampoline instructor
              trampoline instructor 14 December 2017 14: 10
              +1
              Moldova borders not with the “other former republics,” but from the former Soviet republics, only with Ukraine. Look at the map.
              I repeat once again, for those who are particularly intelligent, there is no war now and is not expected. Ukraine is not the topic here.
              I know better if only because I live there. Have questions?
              1. osoboye_mneniye
                osoboye_mneniye 15 December 2017 08: 02
                0
                Quote: trampoline instructor
                Moldova borders not with the “other former republics,” but from the former Soviet republics, only with Ukraine. Look at the map.
                I repeat once again, for those who are particularly intelligent, there is no war now and is not expected. Ukraine is not the topic here.
                I know better if only because I live there. Have questions?

                You still have not answered my previous questions, but already want new ones))
                Borders "only with Ukraine" - what a charm. Especially this is "only". So, this is where weapons and other joys come from to Ukraine. So Ukraine is still in the subject. And if it goes further, then there will be a war.
                Where you live doesn’t matter at all. If you lived in Transnistria, then you would not have begun to talk about the fact that there is no war, because the fact of the presence of the Russian contingent suggests the opposite. If you are from a trampoline zone and you don't give a damn about your native language, then why are you surprised that your expert opinion that there will be no war amuses me?
                Lanna .. have fun, and will.
                1. trampoline instructor
                  trampoline instructor 15 December 2017 08: 27
                  +1
                  1. Have you studied the card? It’s time by now. To want something from you would be extremely unreasonable on my part ...
                  2. What do you mean? Then insanity began: "this is where weapons come from to Ukraine ...". In Ukraine, mountains of weapons remained from the time of the Union. Do you not know this? I am shocked by the "smart" conclusions.
                  3. In Japan, there is an American military contingent of about 50 thousand people. But it does not follow from this that war is going on in Japan. But I admit, you will now argue the opposite.
                  4. If you are so kind to your native language, then it’s time to already learn that in Russian it will be “in Ukraine” and nothing else.
                  1. osoboye_mneniye
                    osoboye_mneniye 15 December 2017 08: 52
                    0
                    Quote: Trampoline area instructor
                    1. Have you studied the card?

                    What are you talking about?
                    Quote: Trampoline area instructor
                    Then insanity began: "this is where weapons come from to Ukraine ...".

                    Do you want to argue with the assertion that weapons enter Ukraine through Moldova and Romania? What, really, through the European Union and Poland ?? And who is this insanity?))
                    Quote: Trampoline area instructor
                    In Ukraine, mountains of weapons remained from the time of the Union. Do you not know this?

                    They have already sold everything out, spent it and lost it for a long time) Well, our partners are sleeping and will be extradited, how to help Ukraine with arms. Probably from an excess of weapons in Ukraine, not otherwise.

                    Quote: Trampoline area instructor
                    3. In Japan, there is an American military contingent of about 50 thousand people. But it does not follow from this that war is going on in Japan. But I admit, you will now argue the opposite.

                    And there already the war ended long ago. Back in the 45th. Hiroshima was enough for the Japanese. And now there is a contingent to restore order, if that. Essno, under the guise of ensuring the security of Japan itself from China and Russia. Japan, by the terms of surrender, should not have its own capable army. And you didn’t know that?
                    Quote: Trampoline area instructor
                    If you are so kind to your native language, then it is time to learn that in Russian it will be "in Ukraine" and nothing else.

                    So are you a specialist in the Romanian language, Moldavian, or Russian? Ali polyglot? But I feel that since you have slipped into questions of my literacy, then the rest of the "arguments" have ended)) So be it, I will give you a lesson in Russian:
                    “In 1993, at the request of the Government of Ukraine, the regulatory options should be recognized options to Ukraine (and, accordingly, from Ukraine). Thereby, in the opinion of the Government of Ukraine, the etymological connection between structures to Ukraine and the outskirts that did not suit him was torn. Ukraine, as it were, received linguistic confirmation of its status as a sovereign state, since the names of states, and not regions, are formed in the Russian tradition with the help of prepositions in (in) and from ... ”(Graudina L.K., Itskovich V.A., Katlinskaya L. P. Grammatical correctness of Russian speech.M .: Nauka, 2001. S. 69).
                    However, the literary norm of the Russian language, according to which one should speak and write in Ukraine, is the result of the historical development of the language over several centuries. The compatibility of the prepositions in and with with certain words is explained solely by tradition. Cf .: at school, at the institute, at the pharmacy, in the department, but: at the factory, at the post office, at the resort, at the warehouse, etc. The literary norm cannot change overnight due to any political processes.

                    In general, you are not talking about Ukraine and Honduras here, so you’ve received a lesson from the Rksk language, and you will worry about it))
                    1. trampoline instructor
                      trampoline instructor 15 December 2017 09: 08
                      +1
                      You just don’t pretend to be a fool :))
                      Weapons DO NOT reach Ukraine via Transnistria.
                      In Russian - "to Ukraine." I wrote it myself.
                      Your last name is "free".
                      1. osoboye_mneniye
                        osoboye_mneniye 15 December 2017 18: 44
                        0
                        Quote: Trampoline area instructor
                        Weapons DO NOT reach Ukraine via Transnistria.

                        Still it would fall through Transnistria. There are our troops. Through Moldova it goes. Prove the opposite))
                        Quote: Trampoline area instructor
                        Your last name is "free"

                        If only so. Yes, I am free! And here you are - not at all, as you sit in the trampoline zone))
      2. trampoline instructor
        trampoline instructor 14 December 2017 08: 42
        +1
        It does not follow at all.
        1. The population of Transnistria is Russian only by a third.
        2. They already talked to each other in 1992. For Moldovans, this is enough.
        3. The army of Moldova is in a completely non-operational state. "Funny troops."
        1. osoboye_mneniye
          osoboye_mneniye 14 December 2017 12: 06
          0
          Quote: Trampoline area instructor
          1. The population of Transnistria is Russian only by a third.

          The population of Donbass is only 40% Russian. Does a 10% difference change anything? Perhaps only the ability to defend.
          Quote: Trampoline area instructor
          2. They already talked to each other in 1992. For Moldovans, this is enough.

          Yes of course. Because it’s enough, and they decided to cancel the Moldovan language at home.
          Quote: Trampoline area instructor
          3. The army of Moldova is in a completely non-operational state. "Funny troops."

          The army of Ukraine is in a completely non-operational state. So the democrats will be sent to help.
          1. trampoline instructor
            trampoline instructor 14 December 2017 14: 17
            +1
            I understand that your opinion is "special." But you I will constantly "poke" in the topic under discussion. We are NOT talking about Donbass (Honduras, Zimbabwe and Nauru). We are NOT talking about the Ukrainian army. We are talking ONLY about Moldova and Transnistria. Do not verbiage.
            And regarding the second point - do you personally care, what is the name of the Moldavian language? Have you ever heard him in your life? Let Moldovans (citizens, residents of Moldova) decide for themselves what their language is called. And this should not bother you much.
            1. osoboye_mneniye
              osoboye_mneniye 15 December 2017 08: 14
              0
              Quote: Trampoline area instructor
              But you I will constantly "poke" in the topic under discussion. We are NOT talking about Donbass

              Yes, you at least escape from your trampoline)))
              You are not talking about the Donbass and Ukraine, because it is beneficial for you not to remind about it in order to bring another state to disaster. What is incomprehensible here ... they might not explain.
              Quote: Trampoline area instructor
              and you personally care, what is the name of the Moldavian language? Have you ever heard him in your life? Let Moldovans (citizens, residents of Moldova) decide for themselves what their language is called. And this should not bother you much.

              I care. If there is Moldavian language, then it should remain with them. Or will you now begin to develop the theory that there is no Moldavian language, since it comes from Romanian, and there is no Russian, since it comes from Old Ukrainian, which, in turn, comes from Old American?))
              You distort the truth by saying that the Moldovans themselves decide what their language is called because:
              - we are not talking about renaming the language, but about replacing, at the state level, Moldavian with Romanian;
              - if we are talking about what Moldovans decide for themselves, then the issue should be submitted to a state referendum. And replacing the language through the bill, on the contrary, is the removal of Moldovans from the decision.

              And what is happening is not just supposed to, but it is bound to bother me. For the reasons given in the answers above. But what keeps you, the Romanian trampoline instructor in the Russian forum, this is still a big question ..))
              1. trampoline instructor
                trampoline instructor 15 December 2017 18: 10
                +1
                Did you try to treat your head? You can’t run like that, mental health is very important. Make an appointment for tomorrow necessarily ....
  8. Altona
    Altona 14 December 2017 07: 36
    +2
    It remains only to prescribe the clause that the President of Moldova is the President of Romania. Where is Dodon looking? Is he a guarantor there or a free souvenir?
    1. trampoline instructor
      trampoline instructor 14 December 2017 08: 38
      +1
      Read the Constitution of Moldova.
      Dodon - represents the country in the international arena, is the commander in chief in wartime. All.
      There is a parliamentary republic.
      1. BMP-2
        BMP-2 14 December 2017 09: 49
        +3
        Well, that is, Moldova urgently needs to start a war so that the power in the country passes to the legally elected president?
        1. trampoline instructor
          trampoline instructor 14 December 2017 14: 21
          +1
          Moldova has no one to fight with. The power of the president is purely nominal; he does not decide anything.
          He could not even appoint the Minister of Defense on his own (the conflict with the government was about 3 months ago).
  9. rocket757
    rocket757 14 December 2017 07: 36
    +4
    Goodbye SMOUGLYAN, goodbye Gipsy, goodbye .... while it seems and no, but tomorrow it may be already!
    All this is sad.
    1. trampoline instructor
      trampoline instructor 14 December 2017 08: 36
      +2
      *** The gypsy on the chicks went up to the chicken and said "chyts".
      You have a bad fulfillment of Illich’s covenants :))
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 14 December 2017 09: 10
        +4
        We have normal precepts, but without them a complete mess!
        1. trampoline instructor
          trampoline instructor 14 December 2017 14: 23
          +2
          *** Study, study and study again *** V.I. Lenin at the III Congress of the Komsomol.
          I am ashamed to write the word "gypsy" through "and".
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 14 December 2017 18: 50
            +3
            It's a shame ... I hurried, made fun of people.
          2. osoboye_mneniye
            osoboye_mneniye 15 December 2017 08: 26
            +1
            Quote: Trampoline area instructor
            I am ashamed to write the word "gypsy" through "and".

            I’m directly lost .. So are you a specialist in Moldavian, Romanian or Russian?
            You know everything .. but in the trampoline zone of your order something wasn’t done.
      2. osoboye_mneniye
        osoboye_mneniye 15 December 2017 08: 24
        +1
        Quote: Trampoline area instructor
        You have a bad fulfillment of Illich’s covenants :))

        But it’s good for you - study with all your might))) It’s a pity that it’s not what Lenin bequeathed.
  10. trampoline instructor
    trampoline instructor 14 December 2017 08: 34
    +3
    1. The Constitutional Court of Moldova itself is 100% composed of Romanian citizens. So it was not to be expected that they would make a different decision.
    2. It should be noted that for the final adoption of an amendment to the constitution, parliamentary approval is required. 68 deputies from 101 have to vote for it. But here it is difficult to predict something.
    3. On the whole, Moldavians can even throw away such fortunes: if you look at their history, they never "stood" straight, they were always "carried", then to the West, then to the East. Like a pendulum. But no one is surprised at the movement of the pendulum.
    4. Romania as a state was formed in the second half of the 19th century. Moldavians as a nation have been known since the 14th century. It is interesting, and what language did Moldovans speak in the 15-16 centuries, if before the appearance of Romania it was another 300-400 years?
    5. In general, the role of neighboring Romania is visible here; Romanian influence is so great that it is impossible to overestimate it at all. And the role of Russia is minimal and practically invisible.
    1. artalex32010
      artalex32010 14 December 2017 16: 16
      0
      That's it! The Principality of Moldova and Moldavians already existed in the 14th century! And by the way, there were no Romanians before. There were Wallachis and the Principality of Wallachia! The Romanian idea itself, invented, lying and sucked out of the finger, is exactly like Ukraine! So all their theories of denial Moldavians, as a people, are frankly antihistorical and unscientific.
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  12. Million
    Million 14 December 2017 09: 20
    +1
    And you are friends, no matter how you call it, everyone in Romanians is not good ...)
  13. 72jora72
    72jora72 14 December 2017 09: 39
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    Quote: verner1967
    Quote: user1212
    "Independent" Moldova

    it’s interesting when in Russia they say that there was no such state as Ukraine, this is considered correct, but the fact that Bessarabia is part of Romania is wrong. So where is the truth? Moldovans want to be Romanians, so it is their right. It is better to think about how to make Russia such a state so that other political entities around it would like to become part of Russia.
    Well, actually, Wallachia and Moldova were formed much earlier than Romania (1881).
  14. Kot_Kuzya
    Kot_Kuzya 14 December 2017 09: 45
    +1
    Well, basically true. Moldavians are the same Romanians, just at one time the Romanians of Bessarabia became part of the Republic of Ingushetia and became Moldovans. And the Wallachians and Transylvanians became part of the Ottoman Empire and became Romanians. In fact, they are one and the same people, even their faith is the same, which is not observed among the Serbs, Croats and Bosnians, who have the same language.
    1. trampoline instructor
      trampoline instructor 14 December 2017 09: 56
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      NOTHING TRUE.
      1. Romanians of Bessarabia? Bessarabia, the Prut and Dniester interfluve, became part of Russia in 1812 according to the results of the Russian-Turkish war of 1806-1812. There was no Romanian. There were only Moldovans.
      2. Wallachians and Transylvanians did not "enter", but were captured by the Turks in the Middle Ages. And they became Romanians only in the second half of the 19th century.
      3. These are different nations. Since 1812, their paths began to diverge. Bessarabia developed well as part of Russia - you can see the results of the 1897 census. And the other part of the historical principality of Moldova remained under the Turks and much later became part of the future Romania.
      This is a fiasco, bro. Learn the materiel.
      1. Kot_Kuzya
        Kot_Kuzya 14 December 2017 09: 58
        +1
        Moldavians are named after the Principality of Moldova, anyway, as before, Russians were divided into Novgorodians, Vladimirites, etc. Just as the Spaniards were divided into Catalans, Castilians and Aragonese.
        1. trampoline instructor
          trampoline instructor 14 December 2017 10: 03
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          This is all excuses.
          Moldavians as an ethnos have been preserved in Bessarabia. Romanians live beyond Prut. I admit that many residents of the former principality of Moldova, being citizens of Romania, call themselves Moldovans.
          1. Kot_Kuzya
            Kot_Kuzya 14 December 2017 10: 15
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            Yes, let them unite! What is bad in uniting a divided people? But in exchange for this, the PMR will receive legal recognition of independence from Moldova and Romania laughing
            1. trampoline instructor
              trampoline instructor 14 December 2017 14: 26
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              Only they forgot to ask you whether to unite or not.
              Once again, these are 2 different peoples. And the PMR will somehow solve its problems.
              1. Kot_Kuzya
                Kot_Kuzya 14 December 2017 17: 31
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                Moldovans and Romanians are ONE people!
                1. trampoline instructor
                  trampoline instructor 14 December 2017 17: 53
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                  Not. This is not true. Someone asked Moldavians, is that so? No one asked.
                  So there is no need to give out wishful thinking.
                  1. Kot_Kuzya
                    Kot_Kuzya 14 December 2017 18: 16
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                    Let them hold a referendum on the accession of Moldova to Romania.
                    1. trampoline instructor
                      trampoline instructor 14 December 2017 18: 24
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                      First stupidity: Moldovans and Romanians are one people.
                      second stupidity: let them hold a referendum on accession ...

                      You better hide, unique.
                      1. Kot_Kuzya
                        Kot_Kuzya 14 December 2017 18: 26
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                        A referendum is a popular will!
  15. Phoenix_L'vov
    Phoenix_L'vov 14 December 2017 09: 47
    +2
    It’s the same as in Ukraine it was not the Ukrainian language that was made official, and not even Russian - but Polish ...
  16. Eurodav
    Eurodav 14 December 2017 10: 29
    +2
    Here's another click on the Dodon's head! Well now what will the lightning rod say? Again, call not to succumb to provocations? It's cool to be a president without power ...
  17. Altona
    Altona 14 December 2017 10: 45
    +1
    Quote: Trampoline area instructor
    Read the Constitution of Moldova.
    Dodon - represents the country in the international arena, is the commander in chief in wartime. All.

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    Why should I read the Constitution of Moldova? Am I Romanian, in your opinion? laughing laughing I already understand perfectly well what Moldova is and what crazy frenzy pens are in its Constitution. Dodon does not represent anyone and nothing at all, even the army was taken from him, although he could even use such meager powers. This is according to the president of the so-called Romanian-Moldova. Now, in the Parliament of this so-called Romanian province. This parliament was somehow smashed into the trash by a group of hooligans and no one noticed anything. So Dodon would be able to with a company of his sheep-fighting troops. But he did not. Good luck to you, read the Constitution of all countries and peoples. Respect the rule of law and democracy. And the rules will dictate stronger and more impudent. hi
    1. trampoline instructor
      trampoline instructor 14 December 2017 14: 39
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      On the one hand - "Is Dodon a free souvenir there?"
      On the other - "why should I read the constitution of Moldova? Do you think Romanian?"
      As I understand it, in order to express your opinion, you must have at least minimal knowledge on the issues discussed. And then look funny.
      There, the plot with Dodon is much more complicated than you can imagine. But this can only be explained by very advanced divers. You do not belong to them.
      1. osoboye_mneniye
        osoboye_mneniye 15 December 2017 08: 31
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        Quote: Trampoline area instructor
        On the one hand - "Is Dodon a free souvenir there?"
        On the other - "why should I read the constitution of Moldova? Do you think Romanian?"
        As I understand it, in order to express your opinion, you must have at least minimal knowledge on the issues discussed. And then look funny.
        There, the plot with Dodon is much more complicated than you can imagine. But this can only be explained by very advanced divers. You do not belong to them.

        I read you and have fun. You would essentially try to answer at least one question. Drive all the dregs .. like our bureaucrats. It seems he said a lot of clever words, but essentially did not state anything) Are you not one of them, by chance?
  18. Altona
    Altona 14 December 2017 10: 48
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    Quote: Trampoline area instructor
    3. These are different nations. Since 1812, their paths began to diverge. Bessarabia developed well as part of Russia - you can see the results of the 1897 census. And the other part of the historical principality of Moldova remained under the Turks and much later became part of the future Romania.
    This is a fiasco, bro. Learn the materiel.

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    That is, do you propose that one part of the people impose their vision on the other in the Ukrainian version?
    1. trampoline instructor
      trampoline instructor 14 December 2017 14: 42
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      *** Who was standing on whom? - bother to express your thoughts more clearly ***.
      1. osoboye_mneniye
        osoboye_mneniye 15 December 2017 08: 33
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        Quote: trampoline instructor
        *** Who was standing on whom? - bother to express your thoughts more clearly ***.

        How much clearer? I explained to you clearly. And you from there legs, and here. We found you here. Do not get tired of running? Do you have a discharge?
        1. trampoline instructor
          trampoline instructor 15 December 2017 09: 10
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          "do not stick your nose into someone else's question"
  19. trampoline instructor
    trampoline instructor 14 December 2017 19: 07
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    Kot_Kuzya,
    I can immediately say: you do not have enough arguments to prove anything to me here. But you can’t break me with slogans.
    Nobody holds a referendum because its result is known in advance: 80% of Moldovans will be categorically against unification with Romania.
    1. osoboye_mneniye
      osoboye_mneniye 15 December 2017 08: 35
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      Quote: Trampoline area instructor
      Nobody holds a referendum because its result is known in advance: 80% of Moldovans will be categorically against unification with Romania.

      So you admitted that Moldovans are not allowed to come close to the question of replacing the language. And above you were filled with nightingale that "the Moldavians themselves decide." Something you are yulit.
      1. trampoline instructor
        trampoline instructor 15 December 2017 09: 15
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        They decide. And without "dissenting opinions." What do you want? You and Moldovans have never seen or heard in life.
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  20. Savin
    Savin 15 December 2017 02: 33
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    IMHO

    1. Moldovans are not Romanians, although the last 27 years, neighboring Romania and its 5th colony in Moldova have made great efforts to change this situation. Post-Soviet Russia mainly observed this process melancholy, moreover, during the EBN, the soil was probed for separate agreements with Bucharest regarding the division of Moldova: Bessarabia - Bucharest, Transnistria-Moscow. It did not grow together due to the position of Kiev, which also had its own views on the PMR.
    2. For the most part, the Moldovan elite was absolutely incapable of building a sovereign and independent Moldovan state - from the first president Snegur to the last, worthless false statesman Dodon. Building a state is a huge work, it required intelligence, will, courage and decency - none of the above qualities of the leaders of Moldova had.
    3. From the very first day of the existence of post-Soviet "independent" Moldova, the strategy of the so-called the local "elite" was as simple as a cow mooing - to steal everything that was still possible, and then drain the country into the Romanian sewers. Point.