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Major General of the Armed Forces of Ukraine shared the problems of the Ukrainian army

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The Armed Forces of Ukraine (Armed Forces of Ukraine) suffer from an acute shortage of funds for the construction of troop deployment facilities, Deputy Commander of the Land Forces of the Armed Forces of Ukraine for Logistics, Major General Yuri Tolochny, told the Defense Industrial Courier agency.


In my opinion, now the most acute problem is the camps, where troops are assigned to restore combat capability. These camps are tent, and after a year and a half of exploitation these tents are no longer suitable for life. The second, related question - points of permanent deployment
- Said Tolko.

Major General of the Armed Forces of Ukraine shared the problems of the Ukrainian army


According to him, it is necessary to create new points of permanent deployment, however, funds for this are allocated catastrophically little.

Also Tolochny noted a serious shortage of ammunition in the Ukrainian army.

Today there are a number of scarce calibers. Speech and about the rifle, and about artillery and rocket ammunition. In fact, there is nothing to replenish the ammunition, and it is constantly decreasing.
- he specified.

The general explained that Ukraine needed Soviet-style ammunition, since most of the armament used by the Ukrainian Armed Forces was produced in Soviet times, and ammunition created by NATO standards is not suitable for it.

Secondly, ammunition is a lethal weapon. The attitude of our Western partners to the supply of lethal weapons to Ukraine everyone knows
- he added the captain, stressing that the current situation will become critical shortage of ammunition within one to two years.

In addition, there is an acute shortage of funds to ensure the safety of arsenals and ammunition storage sites.

We have approximately 5-10 percent of the need to solve tactical missions to ensure survivability. For strategic purposes - the construction of new storage facilities - no funds are allocated at all
- Said Tolko. Part arsenals remains congested in storage often lack security and protection of objects involved incompetent people.

According to Tolochny, significant problems are noted in other types of troops: in particular, the housing problem is acute in the naval forces, and the air force has a difficult situation due to the depreciation of the fleet and the lack of spare parts. The armored vehicles available to the Ukrainian Armed Forces are also mostly outdated, and its modernization options are often unsuccessful.

For example, the Tanks T-64BM “Bulat” due to their heavy weight and weak engine were ineffective, were transferred to the reserve and replaced by linear T-64
- explained the Major General.
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  1. 210ox
    210ox 13 December 2017 16: 38 New
    +8
    The biggest problem is the APU themselves ..
    1. Thrall
      Thrall 13 December 2017 16: 41 New
      11
      Armed Forces of Ukraine suffer from severe shortage of funds for the construction of military deployment facilities

      There is still a problem with latrines smile
      1. 210ox
        210ox 13 December 2017 16: 44 New
        +9
        I was surprised by the main problem of the fleet-housing ... Since there is something that you call a fleet, then you live on ships .. In cockpits, holds, on the deck for a worse case .. Ah! I'm stupid! A bad case is your fleet ..
        1. LSA57
          LSA57 13 December 2017 16: 53 New
          10
          Quote: 210ox
          In cockpits, holds, on the deck for the worst case

          Well, what kind of rafts can have cockpits and holds? laughing
          1. 210ox
            210ox 13 December 2017 21: 37 New
            +1
            I wrote that I'm dumb ... belay
            Quote: LSA57
            Quote: 210ox
            In cockpits, holds, on the deck for the worst case

            Well, what kind of rafts can have cockpits and holds? laughing
            1. LSA57
              LSA57 13 December 2017 22: 40 New
              +1
              Quote: 210ox
              I wrote that I'm dumb ...

              I did not notice smile I thought a simple ignorance of how the naval raft of Urkaina is arranged laughing
        2. Ushly_bashkort
          Ushly_bashkort 13 December 2017 17: 07 New
          +3
          They are not allowed on ships, on tsvetmet / chermet everything will be pulled away!
    2. Lord of the Sith
      Lord of the Sith 13 December 2017 16: 48 New
      16
      If Bulgaria and Poland weren’t, then the Armed Forces of Ukraine have long had no reason to fight.
      1. Pirogov
        Pirogov 13 December 2017 18: 14 New
        +6
        Quote: Sith Lord
        If Bulgaria and Poland weren’t, then the Armed Forces of Ukraine have long had no reason to fight.

        Hungary, the Czech Republic, the Federal Republic of Germany also delivered many Soviet ammunition, but the Hungarians already regret it.
    3. a housewife
      a housewife 13 December 2017 17: 31 New
      +6
      The biggest problem of the APU is the "government of Ukraine"! And the more problems they have, the better! They have little ammunition !!! What - everything in the warehouses burned out? Or so actively fired on Donbass? Oh ... chi!
      1. Pirogov
        Pirogov 13 December 2017 18: 37 New
        +1
        Quote: housewife
        They have little ammunition !!! What - everything in the warehouses burned out?

        Ammunition in Africa is also needed .............
    4. Nyrobsky
      Nyrobsky 13 December 2017 22: 08 New
      +1
      Quote: 210ox
      The biggest problem is the APU themselves ..

      No. The biggest problem is the lack of a brain for those who are guided by the overthrow of power and the war against LDNR.
      1. gladcu2
        gladcu2 14 December 2017 00: 44 New
        0
        The biggest problem of all the armies of the world is the economic system.

        This system includes the state in economic competition within its own country, with private property entities.

        Since the state is an object of public relations and has a democratic, elective management system, its effectiveness is not high either.
        Especially for the army.

        Do not forget that NATO is a hired army of world government.

        And they strictly monitor that statehoods are useless.
  2. pvv113
    pvv113 13 December 2017 16: 39 New
    +7
    in the current state of affairs, the shortage of ammunition will become critical in one to two years

    Is this taking into account fires in warehouses or without? wink
    1. LSA57
      LSA57 13 December 2017 16: 47 New
      +6
      Quote: pvv113
      Is this taking into account fires in warehouses or without?

      but still overloaded laughing
      Part of the arsenals is still overloaded, storage is often missing alarms, and incompetent people are involved in the protection of facilities.
      1. pvv113
        pvv113 13 December 2017 17: 00 New
        +8
        That is, you can continue to set fire to lol
        1. zhekazs
          zhekazs 13 December 2017 17: 55 New
          +5
          So, then, whoever dabbled with matches laughing
          Quote: pvv113
          can be set on fire

          Need to!!!
          1. pvv113
            pvv113 13 December 2017 18: 36 New
            +2
            So, you can’t ask? belay
            1. zhekazs
              zhekazs 13 December 2017 18: 43 New
              +2
              So I did it, and I would have helped with a kerosene, since such a thing laughing
              1. pvv113
                pvv113 13 December 2017 18: 45 New
                +2
                Ok, we’ll agree wink
          2. Lexus
            Lexus 13 December 2017 18: 42 New
            +2
            They are there so far without us coping. The causes of the fires are floriously announced, because how do you write that "the explosion was preceded by the explosion of another fart from hatred of the Russians." smile
        2. Smog
          Smog 13 December 2017 18: 17 New
          +3
          Quote: pvv113
          can be set on fire

          90 percent to compromise, but the rest ..... you can set it on fire ... laughing
          1. pvv113
            pvv113 13 December 2017 18: 38 New
            +3
            So for sure - the procedure is worked out and justifies itself wink
        3. bouncyhunter
          bouncyhunter 13 December 2017 18: 20 New
          +3
          Volodya, hello! hi
          Quote: pvv113
          That is, you can continue to set fire to lol

          You have already been prompted:
          Quote: zhekazs
          Need to!!!

          From myself I’ll add: only neatly, did not sleep. lol
          1. pvv113
            pvv113 13 December 2017 18: 40 New
            +3
            Hello Pasha! You probably wanted to say "just be careful not to burn yourself"? winked
            1. bouncyhunter
              bouncyhunter 13 December 2017 18: 47 New
              +2
              Safety is by itself. Before the next operation, do not forget to leave a sack with an orphaned vodka near the guardhouse - then you definitely will not sleep. wink
              1. pvv113
                pvv113 13 December 2017 19: 08 New
                +2
                And add laxative and sleeping pills to the vodka to make sure the tracks are confused laughing
                1. bouncyhunter
                  bouncyhunter 13 December 2017 19: 18 New
                  +2
                  You think correctly, you can still tightly brew the door to the toilet. lol
                  1. pvv113
                    pvv113 13 December 2017 19: 19 New
                    +2
                    With a good dose of sleeping pills, the toilet is not in demand laughing
                    1. bouncyhunter
                      bouncyhunter 13 December 2017 19: 23 New
                      +2
                      To manage half measures - not in our way. Better for sure! soldier
                      1. pvv113
                        pvv113 13 December 2017 19: 30 New
                        +4
                        Well, sure, so sure
                2. bouncyhunter
                  bouncyhunter 13 December 2017 19: 33 New
                  +2
                  Quote: pvv113
                  Well, sure, so sure

                  Ax Tse - Dilo! And in the push before brewing the doors you need to puff yeast!
        4. sabakina
          sabakina 13 December 2017 19: 41 New
          +3
          Quote: pvv113
          That is, you can continue to set fire to lol

          Volodya and all hi ! Did the license end? Come in, I will extend. wink
          1. pvv113
            pvv113 13 December 2017 19: 58 New
            +2
            Glory, hello! I don’t refuse, but only clarified request
  3. LSA57
    LSA57 13 December 2017 16: 49 New
    +7
    The armored vehicles available to the APU are also for the most part outdated, and options for its modernization are often unsuccessful.

    even that? laughing
  4. The leader of the Redskins
    The leader of the Redskins 13 December 2017 16: 52 New
    +3
    A standard set of problems. A quarter of a century has passed since the collapse of the Union, but the problems are the same ... It's me about housing. And with ammunition they’ll decide. Not the Bulgarians will sell, so they will build their own candle factory.
    1. Sanichsan
      Sanichsan 13 December 2017 17: 26 New
      +7
      But in 2014, was it not known that the only cartridge factory on the territory of LDNR? they didn’t build something in 3 years, the fourth one went ... to see the business is not as simple as you see it.
      ukrov has no specialists, no equipment, no raw materials. and most importantly, no one will provide them with these elements. They’ll sell ready-made ones, but so that the Ukrainians themselves would make shells, what are you doing! who such market will ruin ??? wink
      1. The leader of the Redskins
        The leader of the Redskins 13 December 2017 18: 01 New
        0
        And in 2014, did they know that hostilities would last for more than three years and with such intensity? And most importantly, Ukraine has already learned how to produce rockets for tornadoes, VOG, and purchased equipment for the production of shells of 125 and 152 mm.
        1. sabakina
          sabakina 13 December 2017 19: 45 New
          +3
          If I purchase equipment for the production of cars, this does not mean that I can produce them.
        2. Sanichsan
          Sanichsan 14 December 2017 14: 53 New
          0
          Quote: Leader of the Redskins
          in Ukraine have already learned how to produce rockets to the "tornadoes"

          as far as I remember them, and until 2014 they released ... there is still Soviet production.
          Quote: Leader of the Redskins
          and equipment for the production of shells of cl 125 and 152 mm was purchased.

          for more details please. I do not have such data.
          Once again, IT IS ECONOMICALLY NOT FAVORABLE FOR PARTNERS. Now war is needed to make money on it. if Ukrainians themselves will make shells then the Bulgarians, Poles, Romanians, the Americans will lose a good source of income that will migrate to Parashenko most likely. this will create more problems for the APU than a lack of ammunition.
      2. Normal ok
        Normal ok 13 December 2017 19: 34 New
        +1
        Quote: SanichSan
        ukrov has no specialists

        Most of the engineers left Ukraine for the Lugansk cartridge plant, back in 2014. Moreover, along with technical documentation.
        neither equipment nor raw materials

        Equipment can be bought, several foreign companies have already offered their services. There are raw materials.
        The main problem is not in the above. And in corruption.
        1. Sanichsan
          Sanichsan 14 December 2017 14: 55 New
          0
          we will see. so far only small batches of rockets.
  5. Alexander 3
    Alexander 3 13 December 2017 16: 54 New
    +2
    No money, no army.
  6. Nix1986
    Nix1986 13 December 2017 16: 57 New
    +2
    Problem N1 is that people don’t understand what they are fighting for. It’s like during the early republic in Rome, while the plebeians were not given the right and given the opportunity to choose their stands, they often fled from battle. Man simply had nothing to fight for.
  7. Hunter
    Hunter 13 December 2017 17: 05 New
    +8
    Time, the main weapon of New Russia .. Just do not need to kick me men hard!
    Ukraine has no future, it’s unique.
    In which case there will be weapons and volunteers in the Donbass, this is a matter of principle and survival of the Slavs!
  8. Herculesic
    Herculesic 13 December 2017 17: 10 New
    +3
    Once in the field of steel, so start the arrangement with digging graves - in future boilers they will come in handy. ...
  9. Egorovich
    Egorovich 13 December 2017 17: 51 New
    +3
    What a "country", such an army, Precisely painted a picture of Repin.
  10. Wolka
    Wolka 13 December 2017 18: 00 New
    +1
    the faster the APU’s military reserves run out, the faster peace will come in the Donbass ...
  11. German Titov
    German Titov 13 December 2017 20: 58 New
    0
    Quote: housewife
    The biggest problem of the APU is the "government of Ukraine"! And the more problems they have, the better! They have little ammunition !!! What - everything in the warehouses burned out? Or so actively fired on Donbass? Oh ... chi!

    The biggest problem is APU-APU.
  12. not main
    not main 13 December 2017 22: 14 New
    0
    I looked through the comments. What the fuck ... just Censor.ru! Yes, in VO you rarely see professional commentary! Mostly cheers! And loud and about nothing. Do not believe? Read the comments of articles that are close to technology, you will be surprised, but there will be everything! In addition to technology.
  13. Terenin
    Terenin 13 December 2017 22: 28 New
    +3
    I'm certainly not a military man laughing but judging by the data of the APU problems listed in the publication, it’s just right for thieves to attack bloodless warriors even tomorrow angry
  14. Terenin
    Terenin 13 December 2017 22: 46 New
    +4
    Major General of the Armed Forces shared problems Ukrainian army ...
    As in that folk wisdom: shared joy, it doubles, fellow but shared the problem, it is halved yes
  15. delvin-fil
    delvin-fil 13 December 2017 22: 53 New
    0
    And the SOVIET RAV warehouses no longer suit him ... BиYes.
  16. LeonidL
    LeonidL 14 December 2017 01: 52 New
    0
    These are their problems ...