KLA is ready to start creating a PAK DP (MiG-41) in 2018

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According to Sergey Korotkov, General Designer - Vice-President for Innovations of the United Aircraft Corporation, work on the creation of a promising interceptor (PAK DP) to replace the MiG-31 may begin as early as next year.

Most likely, work will begin in 2018. I hope so. It all depends on the release of the main document - the state armaments program.
- declared Korotkov





He noted that at the moment there is a process of discussing the technical specifications for the aircraft between the developer (RAC "MiG") and the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation.

The main thing is that the requirements (of the customer) correspond to the amount of funding.
- stressed the general designer. He did not rule out the likelihood that the new interceptor would be able to perform tasks in space.

It was previously reported that promising aviation the long-range interception complex should replace the MiG-31 fighter-interceptor, which was put into service in 1981.

The RAC "MiG" noted that the "life cycle" of the MiG-31 is coming to an end in the next ten years and declared its readiness to begin deliveries of the new interceptor aircraft in the middle of the 2020-s.
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  1. +14
    13 December 2017 12: 01
    Russia needs to build muscle. Anglo-Zionists fight in hysterics. Time works for Russia! It is becoming stronger every minute, and the empire of the Anglo-Zionists is getting funnier.
    1. +10
      13 December 2017 12: 02
      Of course you need to develop. But to bring to mind the Su-57 would not hurt. Like the MiG-35
      1. +6
        13 December 2017 12: 04
        All this can and should be done in parallel, the MIG-31 is a unique aircraft, but it needs to be updated (replaced) for a long time, it’s not bad to develop a universal aircraft in general, but this is not a question of the near future.
        1. +5
          13 December 2017 15: 10
          universal plane? Tukhachevsky rebelled?
      2. +1
        13 December 2017 20: 40
        Quote: seti
        Of course you need to develop. But to bring to mind the Su-57 would not hurt. Like the MiG-35

        So now they’re just doing it. Therefore, there are no purchases.
    2. +8
      13 December 2017 12: 05
      Quote: BlombiRus
      Russia needs to build muscle. Anglo-Zionists fight in hysterics. Time works for Russia! It is becoming stronger every minute, and the empire of the Anglo-Zionists is getting funnier.

      Cheers, comrades! laughing
    3. +5
      13 December 2017 12: 05
      Quote: BlombiRus
      Russia needs to build muscle. Anglo-Zionists fight in hysterics. Time works for Russia! It is becoming stronger every minute, and the empire of the Anglo-Zionists is getting funnier.

      Do you know why the BZHDK turned off? For this reason, I would not be in a hurry with slogans ..
      1. +8
        13 December 2017 12: 09
        You are talking to the bot.
        1. +3
          13 December 2017 12: 24
          Quote: Lord of the Sith
          You are talking to the bot.

          You are a bot yourself! What is this such nonsense? Not hungover or what? How ugly it is, to call names, for a generalisimus.
      2. +2
        13 December 2017 12: 23
        Quote: Svarog
        Quote: BlombiRus
        Russia needs to build muscle. Anglo-Zionists fight in hysterics. Time works for Russia! It is becoming stronger every minute, and the empire of the Anglo-Zionists is getting funnier.

        Do you know why the BZHDK turned off? For this reason, I would not be in a hurry with slogans ..

        This is not a slogan, but an accomplished fact, you are our pessimist.
        1. +8
          13 December 2017 12: 25
          The fact that the Belarusian Railways have been curtailed is a fact, but what you are talking about is still slogans.
          1. +3
            13 December 2017 12: 36
            Quote: Svarog
            The fact that the Belarusian Railways have been curtailed is a fact, but what you are talking about is still slogans.

            That's beautiful! I do not like boring.
    4. +12
      13 December 2017 12: 12
      Quote: BlombiRus
      Russia needs to build muscle. Anglo-Zionists fight in hysterics. Time works for Russia! It is becoming stronger every minute, and the empire of the Anglo-Zionists is getting funnier.

    5. +10
      13 December 2017 12: 23
      "Time is working for Russia! It is becoming stronger every minute, and the empire of the Anglo-Zionists is getting funnier."
      Sorry, but how is this? Compare the GDP growth of Russia and the "Anglo-Zionists" (by the way, who are they?). compare the population and it will become clear. who is getting stronger and who is getting funnier
      1. +3
        13 December 2017 12: 47
        Quote: xetai9977
        "Time is working for Russia! It is becoming stronger every minute, and the empire of the Anglo-Zionists is getting funnier."
        Sorry, but how is this? Compare the GDP growth of Russia and the "Anglo-Zionists" (by the way, who are they?). compare the population and it will become clear. who is getting stronger and who is getting funnier

        I can’t forbid you to dream.
      2. +4
        13 December 2017 13: 41
        Quote: xetai9977
        Sorry, but how is this? Compare the GDP growth of Russia and the "Anglo-Zionists"

        The Russians have a saying - "Not with bread alone ..." So, if they have more dough this does not mean that they are better or stronger than us. And the fact that they are stupid and arrogant is understandable to everyone, look at what nonsense their president brings at various appearances. Although Syria is still far from a complete victory, nevertheless, Russia clicked on the nose of your "Anglo-s ...." Although the coalition's GDP is not comparable to Russia.
        1. +1
          13 December 2017 14: 16
          The Sith correctly said this is a bot.
      3. +2
        13 December 2017 15: 40
        The population of the titular nation is falling very quickly, if we open the borders we will grow by 5 million a year. The only question is whether their non-citizens will protect their new homeland
    6. +1
      13 December 2017 14: 50
      are you joking or stubborn?
    7. 0
      14 December 2017 04: 35
      The Anglo-Zionists, yes? Oh well.
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  3. +3
    13 December 2017 12: 10
    He did not rule out the possibility that the new interceptor would be able to perform tasks in space.

    Well, it’s clear that this cannot be ruled out, but it will be said too highly to be done.
    Most likely not to fly into space, but from the upper atmosphere where he can jump to launch rockets affecting satellites in space or even launch mini-satellites. But to talk about a full exit to space, and then back, this is no longer an interceptor as such, but an apparatus going out into space, but this is not really believed, because how to get out without a launch vehicle and then not burn back.
    1. 0
      13 December 2017 23: 45
      So the "execution of tasks in space" and implies the possibility of launching missiles that can shoot down satellites. And to create a plane that can go into space - so it's fantastic pure water is still unknown how old ...
      1. 0
        14 December 2017 06: 29
        I can certainly be wrong, but if you get confused, then combining forward flow and classic power is possible for today. True, there will be no place for any weapons, the copy will be piece-wise and the volumes of flight outside the atmosphere will be purely symbolic.

        In short, purely eras - the military certainly does not fit.
        1. +1
          14 December 2017 19: 41
          Quote: S-Kerrigan
          I can certainly be wrong, but if you get confused, then combining forward flow and classic power is possible for today. True, there will be no place for any weapons, the copy will be piece-wise and the volumes of flight outside the atmosphere will be purely symbolic.

          From that, such a concept will be fantastic - the costs of its implementation and operation will repeatedly outweigh the benefits that it will give. But to suspend a rocket under the “atmospheric” aircraft, which can hit space targets, is already quite realistic.
  4. +3
    13 December 2017 12: 12
    The question is, why? Are there any goals for the MiG-31 now? It was created as a response to the Valkyrie bomber, there are no such threats now. The aircraft is naturally unique even for today, but there are no tasks for it. And then he got a replacement. what tasks will he solve? The Su-57 is similar in its performance to the Mig-31 (ceiling 20 km, max speed with a new engine 3000 km / h).
    1. +2
      13 December 2017 12: 34
      Su-57, a car, for other purposes ..
      And where is he?
      1. +1
        13 December 2017 12: 36
        For what? Su-57 multifunctional aircraft.
      2. 0
        14 December 2017 00: 32
        Su 57 car for future export - the line behind it is already starting to appear.
    2. +1
      13 December 2017 12: 35
      Quote: Bronevick
      The question is, why? Are there any goals for the MiG-31 now? It was created as a response to the Valkyrie bomber, there are no such threats now.

      Well, a new aircraft can perform new tasks. maybe in TK there will be a requirement to shoot down ballistic missiles in the upper atmosphere / near space (maybe satellites) and several at once))) or something else interesting ... you can really think of a lot of tasks.
      1. +1
        13 December 2017 13: 49
        Quote: Bronevick
        The question is, why? Is there now a goal for the Mig-31

        I refer to you, maybe you just need to create new missiles, both ground and air based.
        Quote: The Siberian Barber
        Su-57, a car, for other purposes ..
        And where is he?

        Well, let's say if su 57 "where is he" then the pack dp for today, "it's all that" fog ..
        Quote: K0
        shoot down ballistic missiles in the upper atmosphere / near space (maybe satellites) and several at once))) or something else

        And here it’s interesting, recently Vadim 237 said that Russia is developing the 6th generation aircraft, since with Su 57 they are behind the Americans and a little later it will go to the market, and the sixth will be for itself, since there is just the possibility of entering the near space. I do not know how to relate to this information, but I believe that there is no smoke without fire. In general, wait and see.
    3. +3
      13 December 2017 15: 17
      Most likely we are talking about a flying air defense capable of covering vast territories, it should be larger and faster than the Su-57 ... Maybe an A-50 aircraft carrying missiles would be suitable for these purposes (the speed is lower but a huge radius of destruction)
    4. KCA
      +1
      13 December 2017 15: 20
      As a response to the development of the Valkyrie, and subsequently the SR-71, the MIG-25 was created, in 1981 both the Valkyrie project and the SR-71 aircraft ceased to be
    5. +2
      13 December 2017 16: 23
      Who told you about 3000km / h? And it would not hurt to clarify at what height ...
    6. +3
      13 December 2017 16: 31
      Quote: Bronevick
      ? Are there any goals for the MiG-31 now? It was created as a response to the Valkyrie bomber, there are no such threats now. The aircraft is naturally unique even for today, but there are no tasks for it.

      You are generally in the subject, why MiG -31 and what are its tasks?
      In 1987, unique exercises were held in the north of the country. The reconnaissance and shock group consisted of A-50, a tanker plane and two experienced Su-27 and MiG-31, equipped with a system for in-flight refueling. They performed loitering in the Barents Sea right up to the North Pole and intercepting the planes of a potential enemy.
      A-50 detected far-reaching targets, transmitted an indication over the radio link to the MiG-31, which carried out a supersonic throw and a supersonic interception of targets at long-range targets. After that, he left to refuel, and the Su-27 finished off a broken enemy.
      MiG-31: Reality and Prospects
      The exercises showed: these two planes perfectly complement each other and it is impossible to say that one of them can perform the functions of the other. These two topics must exist together. Https: //vpk-news.ru/articles/15752
      In 2014, the famous Russian test pilot Anatoly Kvochur spoke about the project of a new heavy fighter-interceptor. According to the pilot, the new aircraft was supposed to appear twenty years ago, and its speed was supposed to reach Mach 4,3. The fight against hypersonic aircraft is likely to become one of the tasks that the MiG-41 will perform. In addition, this aircraft must be able to deal with traditional threats, in the form of cruise missiles and enemy bombers. It is also planned that small satellites will be launched from this aircraft into low orbits. Https://militaryarms.ru/voennaya-texnika/a
      viaciya / mig-41 /
    7. +4
      13 December 2017 17: 18
      Quote: Bronevick
      Are there any goals for the MiG-31 now?

      MIG-31 is a long-range interceptor, which is primarily aimed at intercepting the adversary’s KR. So think for yourself whether there are such goals or not, in anticipation of general militarization and the escalation of anti-Russian sentiments.
  5. +1
    13 December 2017 12: 21
    If we are talking about the MiG-41, then they have been writing about this for a long time, and it is also vague (there will be / will not be), and if about another aircraft, what about?
  6. +3
    13 December 2017 12: 23
    No one had it!
    I hope they will do something similar, unique, which no one will have!
    1. +11
      13 December 2017 12: 33
      Quote: rocket757
      I hope they will do something similar, unique, which no one will have!

      He did not rule out the possibility that the new interceptor would be able to perform tasks in space.

      1. +5
        13 December 2017 14: 04
        The imperial fighter is already in the project !!! We will build an EMPIRE !!!
        And let's call her ....... ???
  7. 0
    13 December 2017 12: 32
    ... The main thing is that the requirements (of the customer) correspond to the amount of financing ..
    That’s truncated ... ((Now the question is: are the powerful gentlemen ready to invest in a project that is not “profitable”? It’s more profitable in a pipe, after all, especially since 31 flies so far (“there’s no money you stay there ".. (
    And so we live: we are preparing for mundeals, festivals. We are investing in projects that are profitable today, tomorrow at most. We patch holes in emergency mode .. Oh, the day after tomorrow, does anyone think ?? Not about yourself, but about the security of the country?
    All news, with the prefix "may", "in the near future", "ready to start" ..
  8. 0
    13 December 2017 12: 37
    Quote: BlombiRus
    Russia needs to build muscle. Anglo-Zionists fight in hysterics. Time works for Russia! It is becoming stronger every minute, and the empire of the Anglo-Zionists is getting funnier.

    Ono-yes)) plan to increase how ??))
    Machine tools, steroids ??
  9. +1
    13 December 2017 12: 49
    consistent with funding

    And your fantasies ...
  10. +2
    13 December 2017 12: 53
    If the Su-1 evolved into the T-50, then what God will turn into a MiG ... God knows ...

    ... Cosmic fire six-barrel super-mega blaster !!!
  11. 0
    13 December 2017 13: 12
    Well, the development is good, because it touched the future.
    But the assembly and testing ... well, if by 2030 year.
  12. +5
    13 December 2017 13: 16
    So far, yes, if it’s unknown, the pictures go one fence to another! My option is an interceptor-attack-bomber-scout! laughing
    1. +4
      13 December 2017 13: 52
      Would you repaint white stars or red ones and strip off the stripes - otherwise you’ll peck wink
      1. +1
        13 December 2017 15: 16
        Yes tsezh enemy shpien laughing
  13. +1
    13 December 2017 15: 12
    Just started to itch, 15 years ago it was necessary, the 31st were physically outdated, there was nothing to replace.
    1. +2
      13 December 2017 16: 33
      Quote: Incvizitor
      31th are physically outdated, there is nothing to replace.

      Well of course .. the West has analogs to how the answer is "physically" obsolete? With comparable characteristics?
      1. 0
        14 December 2017 00: 52
        Well, we still need to be replaced by USs, they are 30+ years old and to the west, it’s certainly better to replace it than to wait until the fall begins.
      2. 0
        14 December 2017 14: 10
        Yes morally he far surpassed everyone and a head start of 20 years still gives but physically is outdated, you don’t have to confuse the concept, now there is development, running up to a series of 15 years, and even 31m 40+.
        1. 0
          14 December 2017 14: 33
          Quote: Incvizitor
          And yes, morally, he far surpassed everyone and a head start of 20 years still gives but is physically outdated

          Those 95 are so outdated that they fly to this day. How old are they? In the west b-52 how old is he?
          so it’s too early to write in the “morally and physically” obsolete Mig 31.
  14. +1
    13 December 2017 15: 14
    As I do not like these statements, along with beautiful pictures ... First you need to do it.
  15. 0
    13 December 2017 15: 22
    Most likely the interceptor will be made with one engine.
    Technology development will be immediately apparent.
    The unpretentious F35, the latest US development, will compete with our two engine SU57 ....
    1. +1
      13 December 2017 15: 47
      The unsightly F35, the latest development of the United States, will carry with our two-engine SU57 ...

      One of the leading experts of the company "MiG" said: “If we had the same reliable and trouble-free engine as the“ Pratt Whitney, ”we would not hesitate to design a single-engine fighter”
      1. +2
        13 December 2017 16: 17
        And Napoleon said: "If I had at least one battalion of Ukrainian soldiers, then I would capture the whole world!"
        1. +1
          13 December 2017 16: 30
          Now I would like to compare the RD-33 overhaul life, which was ~ 800 h and F100-PW-200> 4.000 h.
          1. +1
            16 December 2017 09: 27
            Comparison of a hedgehog and a snake. First you need to compare the aircraft maintenance system with us and them, in order to understand who, like engines, gets to repair thorough repairs. And secondly, there are no open air force statistics in the public domain, but only advertising figures for the assigned / overhaul resource / number of launch cycles, and not for the actual, and their comparison. If it is known that the F100-PW-220 has an overhaul life of up to 4 start-up cycles, which, according to their standards, is equal to 300 years of normal operation, then on RD-7 33 300 conditional overhaul hours are considered equivalent to 6 years of normal operation. At the same time, I fully admit that Pratt-Whitney makes the best engines in the world, only their separation in operational qualities from the closest competitors will not be as significant as it might seem, abstractly comparing the indicators obtained by different methods in different conditions.
  16. +2
    13 December 2017 15: 39
    - stressed the general designer. He did not rule out the likelihood that the new interceptor would be able to perform tasks in space.

    It's easier for Americans to buy F-302.

  17. 0
    13 December 2017 15: 46
    With PAK FA, then you’ve done so much to you before PAK DP
    1. +1
      13 December 2017 16: 16
      PAK FA is fine. So it will be with PAK DP.
  18. +2
    13 December 2017 15: 59
    In the mid-20s ??? Maybe still the 30s. We have been building the PAK FA for 10 years and next year only the installation party will go. And here still nobody approached the kulman and after 7-8 years they talk about mass production .... heh ....
    1. +4
      13 December 2017 17: 31
      Quote: m.cempbell
      We have been building the PAK FA for 10 years and next year only the installation party will go.

      Before you write nonsense, take a look at how much the Raptor was developed, and how much the F-35 is already being developed.
      And with the SU-57 everything goes according to plan, without any distortions in the schedule. By the way, the engines of the second stage were waiting no earlier than the 20 of the year ... and it was already being tested on an airplane.
      Quote: m.cempbell
      And here still nobody approached the kulman and after 7-8 years they talk about mass production .... heh ....

      Are you sure you didn’t fit? Well, the programs PAK FA, PAK TA, PAK DA, PAK DP, PSSh (promising attack aircraft) started at about the same time ... by PAK DP I came across infa, about its development already in 2013 ... and what they just told you, it’s pointless to hide it already, since in the West since the year 2015 they talk about this interceptor. Speed ​​characteristics declare from 4,3 to 4,5 mach ... moreover, the West first recited them, and then our side confirmed it. What it will be at the exit no one knows.
      1. +2
        13 December 2017 19: 43
        They probably misunderstood me. I do not criticize the PAK FA program schedule, I just say that the real terms for creating such an aircraft in the current conditions are at least ten years. And then with sustainable funding. The first PAK FA took off in the 10th year, the design began, I think, within 2007, well, maybe 2008. Here it was said about the beginning of work on the creation of the aircraft - as I understand it, the creation begins with design, so I draw an analogy. And how many analogues are being developed there at the adversaries should not worry us. You just don’t need to be far behind ...
      2. 0
        18 December 2017 11: 08
        Before you write nonsense, take a look at how much the Raptor was developed, and how much the F-35 is already being developed.
        And with the SU-57 everything goes according to plan, without any distortions in the schedule. By the way, the engines of the second stage were waiting no earlier than the 20 of the year ... and it was already being tested on an airplane.

        F35 is the development timeline for three types of aircraft.
        SU57 - must cope immediately with three, in general, all hope for air defense and close combat.
  19. +3
    13 December 2017 17: 09
    KLA is ready to start creating a PAK DP (MiG-41) in 2018

    1. +1
      14 December 2017 10: 51
      Yes, you can draw pictures as much as you like. I am tormented by doubts about working in space, as well as about the presence of a pilot in the PAK DP. These are not the conditions or the overloads that a pilot can endure. On 4 ++, consciousness is lost, moreover, in trained and selected pilots. Yes, and special suits help.
      And if this pepelats still goes into a low orbit? Wild cold with a sharp change to heating up to 300-400 degrees, radiation, weightlessness, space speeds, and you also need to have thermal protection to return to the atmosphere ... Choi takes doubts - are the technologies ready for such an apparatus?
      1. +2
        14 December 2017 11: 07
        Quote: Wedmak
        Yes, you can draw pictures as much as you like. I am tormented by doubts about working in space ...

        .. They have their own "cosmos" ... In the stratosphere - wherever it goes ..

        1. +1
          14 December 2017 11: 31
          Yeah, they are strange ... How many modern U-2 rise there? Around 25 KM? With its wing extension, construction, he barely clings to the remains of air there. Where is higher? At 39 km only stratospheric balloons climbed, with full passenger life support. And then, just to jump back.
          So apparently the ceiling in 25 will be mastered yet, and then only rockets.
  20. 0
    14 December 2017 00: 16
    They find their future projects in American magazines of the 80s, in articles devoted to supposedly promising projects of the USSR.
  21. 0
    14 December 2017 09: 20
    I'd like to believe that ours have already begun to pre-create the Mi-41 (we will call it conditionally), if everything works out, our designers will create another masterpiece of military aviation - I’m sure of that. He will become a real hunter for the enemy’s KR (cruise missiles), and will cover vast areas of supersonic sound.
  22. 0
    14 December 2017 11: 46
    Wow, the picture is so beautiful) in the picture it’s always all right
  23. +1
    14 December 2017 18: 20
    So apparently the ceiling in 25 will be mastered yet, and then only rockets.

    Well, the MiG-25 climbed 37 km. So I think the 30 +/- km figure is real.

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