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Ready to participate in neutral status

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On the eve of the meeting of athletes of the Olympic Committee of Russia, in the presidium of which was the head of the ROC, Alexander Zhukov (the one who in Lausanne said that the decision of the IOC has "positive moments"). The participants declared that they were ready to perform at the Olympics in South Korea, even without Russian symbols - a flag, a hymn and any hints about everything connected with Russia. To justify themselves to millions of fans, everyone said that "Russia is in their hearts."


Interfax reports that the Olympic Assembly by a majority vote supported the performance at the OI-2018 under the white flag of the IOC and in the status of "athlete from Russia" - without a single national team.

Also, the ROC Executive Committee stated that the athletes who decided to participate in the Winter Olympics would be funded from the budget of the Russian Olympic Committee, and that they would be given full support.

Ready to participate in neutral status


From Zhukov’s statement:
We presume that all the strongest Russian athletes will receive an invitation from the IOC. We also need to clarify and coordinate with the IOC all the details regarding the form of Russian athletes and many other technical issues.


It is noted that about 200 Russian athletes will be able to go to Pyeongchang.

The flag of Russia and the anthem in stadiums and other venues for performances by athletes will be banned. And only fans are allowed to come with the symbols of the represented country.
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  1. 210ox
    210ox 13 December 2017 06: 01 New
    64
    Ugh on them ... This will be every major competition such a canoe. They live in a different world and they judge them, and they don’t justify it with any labor and then preparation .. A country without ideals and principles is what they turn us into ..
    1. Hard Rock
      Hard Rock 13 December 2017 06: 06 New
      +4
      Look wider
      1. 210ox
        210ox 13 December 2017 06: 10 New
        28
        Do you propose to throw the whole globe? I look at what is happening in my country and how our leadership is slipping ..
        Quote: Hard Rock
        Look wider
        1. Hard Rock
          Hard Rock 13 December 2017 06: 25 New
          13
          Well, I think that you will not fly into space, except mentally, but in general, it is clear to everyone that this is Russia, and the athletes are Russians, and at the end of this Olympiad they will be held by the whole team under the Russian flag. You need to get out of this situation, but there is only one way out - to win! That's exactly what I had in mind - to look wider. It’s easiest to blame and call them traitors, but put yourself in their place! The second game in a row! What sports cancel in Russia?
          1. dik-nsk
            dik-nsk 13 December 2017 06: 33 New
            17
            I strongly support .. I don’t understand at all these idiots screaming shame .. what did you do in life yourself? For the athlete, the Olympics is the peak of a career, a dream .. from the fact that politicians hacked him the Flag, he does not cease to be Russian ..
            that is what I did on the state’s place, so sponsored the trips of choir singers and opera singers, yes, I simply awarded gifted children / students, held competitions in the regions - pay them tours with tickets to the stands and let them sing the Russian Anthem in the stands .. it was would be cool trolling western "partners" ...
            and shouting shame on an athlete who is going to defend the honor of the country, albeit for reasons beyond his control without the Flag, is from a lack of mind
            1. Hard Rock
              Hard Rock 13 December 2017 06: 46 New
              +6
              The idea is good! That's the way to do it, I think it will be so! Too much affected the country! A bunch of corrupt functionaries, whose eyes were already squinting from the constant lies to the bridge of the nose, were convicted on the testimony of some sort of schiz! It seems to me that if that goat was not there, they would have found a different path. They were given the task.
              1. Sergey-svs
                Sergey-svs 13 December 2017 06: 56 New
                65
                As expected, the Russian Olympic Committee (ROC) supported the statement of Russian athletes about their willingness to perform under the neutral flag at the 2018 Olympics. fool It is interesting and what kind of “Honor of Russia” are they going to defend there if Russia is not allowed to participate in the Olympic Games? no Quite the "roof" moved out of self-interest? So always traitors justify their betrayal. negative You are strong for everyone except patriotism! This Olympics for Russia does not exist! stop For the people of Russia, the Motherland is more expensive than some kind of battered Olympics! It is interesting and which of the “Patriots” will carry the white flag? Let's go, defeatists! Forward! sad
                PS But, all this hype around the "Olympics" with the "neutral Patriots" revealed a huge gap between the so-called "bureaucrats-patriots" and ordinary Russians! Spread someone else's post about it, it’s very well written:
                1. Vladimir16
                  Vladimir16 13 December 2017 09: 32 New
                  +9
                  Was it necessary to hang an Olympic flag over Berlin? So, the head of the ROC, Alexander Zhukov?
                  Kantaria and Egorov for the whole world are Russians. (Although the nationalities in the passports were different)
                  And those who go to the Olympics are athletes from Russia.
                  Feel the difference.

                  WHO DOES RUSSIAN CAN PROHIBIT MY FLAG?
                  1. Elena Zakharova
                    Elena Zakharova 13 December 2017 09: 39 New
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                    Quote: Vladimir16
                    So, the head of the ROC, Alexander Zhukov?

                    I have not seen such a shame in which this Zhukov pushed us including.
                    This official, like Mutko, is clearly out of place.
                    You need to drive both, with ... rags.
                    1. Vladimir16
                      Vladimir16 13 December 2017 10: 54 New
                      +6
                      Shame in everyone's head. Athletes bent.
                      Residents of Russia will raise the flag wherever they want. Apparently these who are at the Olympics and beetles with gentlemen are not Russian. They just live in Russia.
                      They need to recover all the money spent by the state on this tourism.

                      Putin said that this is a personal decision of every athlete. Personal should be for personal money.

                      It is better to pay for the trip of those fans who raise the flag at the competitions. They really represent our country.
                      1. Tatyana
                        Tatyana 13 December 2017 22: 01 New
                        +3
                        OLYMPIC TRAINING SCHOOL!
                        This is how some journalists rated this action.

                        At the same time, the IOC perceives Russian athletes not as citizens of the Russian Federation, but as citizens of the CANCELED state, and at the moment - precisely as stateless persons.
                        In general, the loot won the Russian athletes.
                        It will win at the next Olympics. You can not even doubt it! Everything will happen again!
                    2. Ami du peuple
                      Ami du peuple 13 December 2017 11: 16 New
                      +7
                      Quote: Elena Zakharova
                      You need to drive both, with ... rags.
                      With rare exceptions, it is necessary to drive the entire government and senior federal officials. And a lot of questions have accumulated to the Guarantor.
            2. Alone
              Alone 13 December 2017 06: 55 New
              23
              They are not honored to protect the country. They themselves wrote:
              Quote: dik-nsk
              For an athlete, the Olympics is the peak of a career, a dream ..

              they’re going to fulfill their dream. The same V.An (if I don’t confuse anything with his name), who crossed over at past games, does he also stand up for the honor of the country? mashikh, etc., but with the sense that I still have a heart with Russia? At the time of the Olympic Games, to support the athletes, why not hang out neutral flags on the buildings of state institutions (again with thoughts about Russia )?
            3. Same lech
              Same lech 13 December 2017 07: 04 New
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              I strongly support .. I don’t understand at all these idiots screaming shame .. what did you do in life yourself?

              I categorically do not support ... I don’t understand these followers of Rodchenkov and McLaren at all ... they themselves did what they did in life. smile
              For an athlete, the Olympics is the peak of a career, a dream ... we will sell for the sake of participating in the Olympics the honor and dignity of our country.
              Then I, being guided by the same principle, will sell these people ... they don’t give a damn about me and millions like me ... why then I have to support them ... now they’re not quite mine ... they’re nobody now .. . Neutral in soul and body.

              General Vlasov, who went to the service of Hitler, was also looking for a moral justification ... allegedly he tried for RUSSIA.
              How are our current Olympians at heart different from him ... what
              Why do I need such an OLYMPIAD where they humiliate our country ... no victories of our athletes there will remove the feeling of bitterness and sediment of muck in my soul ... this is an unclean sport ... this is politics.
              1. passerby5
                passerby5 14 December 2017 08: 18 New
                0
                about the peak of a career no one and do not argue. but then CANCELED the country. let them ride, this is their personal decision. for personal money. At heart with Russia. let's see if they will sing the anthem in case of climbing the pedestal. although I don’t want to watch it. one x will condemn or invite heartworms. completely lower the chob
            4. Ami du peuple
              Ami du peuple 13 December 2017 07: 09 New
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              Quote: dik-nsk
              here, so that I did on the state’s place, I sponsored trips of choir singers and opera singers, yes, I simply awarded gifted children / students, held competitions in the regions - pay them tours with tickets to the stands and let them sing the Russian Anthem in the stands ..
              For your money, yourself go and sing, if you so wish. It is enough that the state sponsored a trip of neutral athletes and officials.
              By the way, money was found for this, but for the funded part of the pension for citizens - no and is not expected for the next three years. I paraphrase the legendary N.N. Ozerov: "We do not need such a sport!"
            5. Greg Miller
              Greg Miller 13 December 2017 07: 18 New
              35
              Of the ruling "patriots" in Russia, NOBODY condemned Zhukov for repentance ... This means only one thing - THEY ARE ALREADY READY TO GIVE UP TO THE GRACE OF THE WEST. That’s where the main nest of TRIENCY is - THE ROT OF THE RIGHT TOP. To cope with the country under the control of such, the West does not need tanks and missiles .... THESE ARE ALREADY READY TO SELL THE COUNTRY, FOR BEADS. The people of Russia, through participation in these games under the white flag, impose the idea that cowardice and betrayal are normal if it’s for the sake of money, personal ambitions and participation in the show ... Tomorrow these people will tell the people that Vlasov was right when he betrayed his homeland and sided with those who set themselves the task of destroying all the Russians. After all, he wanted to save his personal life! Which he had one, like our "neutral" athletes ... The power in Russia lives separately from the people. They are pushing the people about patriotism, and the crowd themselves go to the premiere of the homosexual porn performance "Nureyev" (and applaud him under the cries of "Freedom to Serebrennikov!") By the "mega director" Serebrennikov. Google who was there, only the main boss was missing, then they run in a crowd to open the scum memorial plaque and the scoundrel Solzhenitsyn ... VLASOVSCHINA is today the state ideology in Russia ....
            6. kashtak
              kashtak 13 December 2017 07: 44 New
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              Quote: dik-nsk
              and shouting shame on an athlete who is going to defend the honor of the country, albeit for reasons beyond his control without the Flag, is from a lack of mind

              The honor of the country is protected under the flag of the country. Those who travel under neutral status represent only themselves and their ambitions. There will not be a single Russian athlete, and let a neutral country support neutral ones. Having agreed to ban the flag and anthem, they understand participation in an anti-Russian company. They are indifferent to me, like their career.
            7. Topotun
              Topotun 13 December 2017 09: 49 New
              19
              And I'd rather all the money that is spent on the Olympic committees, all these contributions - I spent on the development of my sport. Build stadiums, create children's sports societies, etc. etc. And what is now called sports is just business. As for the life spent by the sportsmen, our 18-20 year old boys with machine guns in Tskhinval somehow did not ask why they were fighting. They were Russian and their country was behind them. Say this is not the same thing? In my opinion there is a trait beyond which you can not fall. However, I will not argue. Everyone decides for himself.
            8. basmach
              basmach 13 December 2017 10: 25 New
              +9
              Here people like you often say, there is a war going on against Russia. Yes, it is, on the FSE fronts. And each has its own trench. And sport is also a front. And following your thought, to do so is to give up. And not-who did what. There are many who have done something. But these are representatives of Our country, they are going to defend its honor, and mind you, for our money. So we have every right to judge. They want to go for prize money under a neutral flag and without symbols and anthem — forward and with a song — but at their own expense. And then our questions will disappear. And following your logic, you can justify any betrayal (and their attempt to get there for prize money is at least somehow a betrayal of their country, their people, which made it possible for them to become who they are with their labor)
            9. dorz
              dorz 13 December 2017 10: 50 New
              +5
              Quote: dik-nsk
              I strongly support .. I don’t understand at all these idiots screaming shame .. what did you do in life yourself? For the athlete, the Olympics is the peak of a career, a dream .. from the fact that politicians hacked him the Flag, he does not cease to be Russian ..

              The statements of several athletes for a trip to the Olympics as truth in the first instance cannot be promoted. Many prominent athletes strongly opposed.

              Alexander Ovechkin, world champion in hockey:
              - The decision of the IOC is unfounded. This is humiliating, and I feel sorry for the athletes. This is a huge grief, this is a shock. I find it difficult to advise athletes in this situation. But to go at my own expense and speak under a neutral flag ... I do not understand this at all.
              Malkin is of the same opinion.
              1. dik-nsk
                dik-nsk 14 December 2017 06: 03 New
                0
                here, just do not bring the yellow press here, Ovechkin has already denied this opus, saying that he did not say this and is going
                “A number of media today published on my behalf a comment on the decision of the IOC Executive Committee. It is not true, I did not make such statements. I believe that sport is above all ambitions, above all. You need to participate in the Games, ”R-Sport quotes Ovechkin
            10. Flatter
              Flatter 13 December 2017 12: 59 New
              0
              The Olympics involves the participation of athletes from all over the world to popularize sports as the health of the nation. The state flag is a demonstration and promotion of sporting success and lifestyle for lagging countries. This has been the case since the days of villages and tribes of Ancient Greece, the winners have been worshiped, legends have been written about them ..
            11. passerby5
              passerby5 14 December 2017 08: 09 New
              0
              here I am for. interesting idea: during the award ceremony, the Russian audience will have a choir of 50-100 voices and sing the Russian anthem
            12. NordUral
              NordUral 14 December 2017 10: 25 New
              0
              There is more a problem in power, not athletes. That power that put the country and athletes in such a position.
              And the ability to say NO! - This is a sign of truth and power. What is not observed above.
            13. invisibility
              invisibility 14 December 2017 10: 38 New
              +1
              Quote: dik-nsk
              For an athlete, the Olympics is the peak of a career, a dream ..

              And why do you have people who want to see the flag and hear the anthem of their country, at the INTERNATIONAL competition, fools?
              And, what’s 147-millionth Russia, lives for the sake of hundreds of athletes? Or maybe it should be the other way around?
              A citizen of his country will never allow himself to identify himself with some white, rainbow and other rag!
              For the athlete, this is the peak! It's a dream! And about the dreams of truly Russian people, will anyone remember?
              Any competition is a show of strength! Whose power will "our" athletes demonstrate?
              Honestly, all these liberal ideas, about the tear of a child, about the dreams of athletes, singers and other riffraffers, are tired of the order! There is no greater peak for a citizen of the country that raised him to hear the anthem of his homeland! For the whole world to see that the Russian athlete won!
          2. 210ox
            210ox 13 December 2017 06: 45 New
            26
            And it needs to be revived in Russia. Inside the country ... What, before the Helsinki Olympiad we didn’t have sports? There was, and what else. And what is now, it’s a sport for the elite and is designed to make big money. And about the massive sports completely forgotten!
            Quote: Hard Rock
            Well, I think that you will not fly into space, except mentally, but in general, it is clear to everyone that this is Russia, and the athletes are Russians, and at the end of this Olympiad they will be held by the whole team under the Russian flag. You need to get out of this situation, but there is only one way out - to win! That's exactly what I had in mind - to look wider. It’s easiest to blame and call them traitors, but put yourself in their place! The second game in a row! What sports cancel in Russia?
            1. Topotun
              Topotun 13 December 2017 09: 50 New
              +5
              I completely agree. Moreover, competing with asthmatics and patients who have recipes for several pages is completely hopeless.
              1. NordUral
                NordUral 14 December 2017 10: 26 New
                0
                I do not consider myself a seer, but they will not allow our guys to perform adequately. Although it’s still so far before the speeches, they can still throw pods.
          3. Letun
            Letun 13 December 2017 07: 16 New
            +9
            Quote: Hard Rock
            and at the end of this Olympiad they will be held by the whole team under the Russian flag.

            There are great doubts about this. There is a reservation there, they say, if all the conditions are met, then they will allow passage under the Russian flag. So they will not miss another opportunity to humiliate us.
            1. BMP-2
              BMP-2 13 December 2017 12: 59 New
              +5
              I wonder how many of these 200 would agree to change their citizenship if they were paid extra? what
          4. nikolaev
            nikolaev 13 December 2017 09: 05 New
            +2
            and becoming a gangster is better than abandoning demonic games (and in no other way can you name the homosexual transgender cob after all this!)
          5. lysyj bob
            lysyj bob 13 December 2017 09: 15 New
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            Quote: Hard Rock
            the whole team will pass under the Russian flag.



            This can happen at the discretion of the IOC if our side fulfills ALL of their humiliating conditions:
            1. recognition of the McLaren report
            2. payout 15 lyam
            3. all restrictions associated with symbolism
            4. enhanced doping test
            And so on
            Question: how do you imagine the fulfillment of the first two points? Who will pay? Beetles with muddy out of their pockets? - to hell !!!
            So do not comfort yourself with the thought of a flag at the close. They won’t let us win either! All first numbers will be knocked out before the start of the competition. The rest will be created such conditions that there will be no talk of victory. The maximum that they will be allowed is a few bronzes. And after that there will be a cry to the whole world that Russia is not capable of anything without doping! Get ready for new humiliations.
          6. GRF
            GRF 13 December 2017 10: 05 New
            10
            Quote: Hard Rock
            ... and put yourself in their place! The second game in a row! What sports cancel in Russia?

            Down with such a sport ...

            People who like to be hurt are masochists.
            But what about those who like to be humiliated - liberals?
          7. Paranoid50
            Paranoid50 13 December 2017 11: 02 New
            +7
            Quote: Hard Rock
            this is exactly what I meant - to look wider.

            Well, if you look broader, on a global scale, so to speak, then all world sport has long turned into a baryzhy project, which, if necessary, becomes a political tool. No, the slogan has remained the same, only one word has changed - "Oh, sport, you are the cache." And all these games are only disgusting. It is foul, of course, that ours were also overlooked. Well, come on, Kim is a judge to them all.
          8. weksha50
            weksha50 13 December 2017 11: 10 New
            +2
            Quote: Hard Rock
            and at the end of this Olympiad they will be held by the whole team under the Russian flag. You need to get out of this situation, but there is only one way out - to win



            There already a good proposal from Svetlana Khorkina was made in the Duma - to finance our fans who would be sick under our flags and with our symbols ... But Zhukov indicated only sportsmen about state financing, but he missed such a propaganda-information factor ...
            Here you have one more of the mechanisms-levers of the "hybrid" war ...
          9. Victor N
            Victor N 13 December 2017 11: 26 New
            +4
            If anyone wins, they won’t let him in with a flag and a hymn.
          10. faridg7
            faridg7 13 December 2017 14: 11 New
            +5
            Quote: Hard Rock
            Well, I think that you will not fly into space, except mentally, but in general, it is clear to everyone that this is Russia, and the athletes are Russians, and at the end of this Olympiad they will be held by the whole team under the Russian flag. You need to get out of this situation, but there is only one way out - to win! That's exactly what I had in mind - to look wider. It’s easiest to blame and call them traitors, but put yourself in their place! The second game in a row! What sports cancel in Russia?

            Bend along with them, but for me it’s a betrayal. For me, just giving up such humiliation will be a feat. Prokhorenko, I think, was faced with such a choice, and it was not the peak of his career, and for sure he could curl up at some point and leave so as not to fall into ticks, but for him, I think, this would be a humiliation. Now there is a betrayal, a betrayal by athletes of those colleagues who were unreasonably blamed and did not give the opportunity to participate in games for which the awards were withdrawn unreasonably, the betrayal of the country by those who were promised candy (there is no guarantee that they will receive the won rewards). Bend down further, you still will not pile such a bunch of crap on the table
          11. nznz
            nznz 13 December 2017 14: 53 New
            +2
            Athletes have been training with taxpayer money for years. The state pays them all about talented Olympians. The time has come to repay the state, which has found itself in a difficult situation, humiliating. The question then is simply: Are you a citizen of a great country, or an athlete hungering for medals of fame and money? Nobody rapes, the state wisely (cunningly) self-destructed, athletes decide, or rather sports functionaries. They decided ... yesterday in the program. Time will show demonstrated this document in the style of Mutka-in the first part a statement that Russia was humiliated and put cancer-in the second, the willingness to take part without a boycott and resistance. Here is such a manifesto ... The story is not easy, time will pass and all sisters will be rewarded with earrings ... and those who went to prove victory, and those who provoked them to go .. Kim acted on the same program (either Irina, or Ilona, ​​I don’t remember) and from the LDPR the guy’s deputy is faceful. Kim habalka from the market opened her mouth in which only medals could be put and the monologue couldn’t break it for a long time. The essence of this stream of consciousness is difficult to catch, but you need to go with refrain. Is there an argument to your opponents — did you play the anthem in your honor and raise the flag? that’s all the arguments. And what will the representative now feel when lifting a white rag under a cheerful little music.? They showed the scoreboard. Since 1924, many countries did not participate in the Olympic Games, so they declared their protest for some reason. And nothing, the German fencer Bach — now you yourself know who the chairman of the IOC is. nothing happened to him, the horns and tail did not grow. The guy’s deputy, from the same frenzied pack, trying to express an excellent opinion, throat, well, Zhirik clones them or something ... and the question is to your opponent about 60 years old and what kind of sport do you practice :)). They say, give those who understand all this to decide, well, i.e. they who got off the bars yesterday, ignoramus or fake student specialists refuse to others the right to have an opinion .... horror .. Klintsevich indignant wanted to get out of the show .. generation of Pepsi .. and Royal alcohol ..
          12. 97110
            97110 14 December 2017 10: 21 New
            +1
            Quote: Hard Rock
            it’s clear to everyone that this is Russia,

            and you are a Russian, and the gypsy flag - yes, anyone can be hung, which is there in the warehouse.
          13. cerbuk6155
            cerbuk6155 14 December 2017 10: 22 New
            +1
            The Olympic Games is not a sport; it is a pure business. soldier
      2. siberalt
        siberalt 13 December 2017 06: 27 New
        +7
        Athletes were allowed to make a decision at the general meeting, and they accepted. What else to discuss then? They did not become Russian less.
        1. Nehist
          Nehist 13 December 2017 07: 08 New
          14
          Accepted and accepted they want to go let them go but not for our money !!! There, the IOC was going to carry them at their own expense, and let them be lucky.
          1. siberalt
            siberalt 13 December 2017 11: 43 New
            0
            And you are to Putin that you are being robbed. Or try to hold a referendum on your issue, you are our economical. laughing
            The fact is that the money for this has long been allocated and these expenses were long planned. But save on officials who the IOC forbade to appear at the Olympic stadium. hi
        2. Ami du peuple
          Ami du peuple 13 December 2017 08: 35 New
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          Quote: siberalt
          They did not become Russian less.
          In my humble opinion, they became antiRussian, if they deeply, to put it mildly, spit on the opinion of the majority of Russian citizens. And do not follow this "neutrыlam, tryndet that the support of Russian fans is important to them - grandmothers are important to them and personal ambitions. So, guys, somehow manage without us, let relatives and friends worry about you.
          Quote: Nehist
          There, the IOC was going to carry them at their own expense, and let them be lucky.
          Yeah, for the $ 15 million that our sports officials will certainly pay to the IOC for an "independent anti-doping investigation."
        3. Victor N
          Victor N 13 December 2017 11: 37 New
          +2
          Quote: siberalt
          Athletes were allowed to make a decision at the general meeting, and they accepted. What else to discuss then? They did not become Russian less.

          Having refused the flag and the anthem, they recognized themselves not as Russians, because every citizen and every compatriot are obliged to respect these symbols.
          1. siberalt
            siberalt 13 December 2017 11: 46 New
            +1
            The decision has already been made, and what's the point of tearing the pillow so that the feathers fly? lol We will root for our athletes more than usual.
        4. Chaos
          Chaos 13 December 2017 22: 07 New
          +3
          Of course, this is the elite of the sport. I remember in VO they wrote about the Russian character, about the special Russian soul. Is this the Russian character without a flag and a hymn to perform?
      3. Ingvar 72
        Ingvar 72 13 December 2017 07: 20 New
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        Look wider
        And let's see wider and allow gay parades! wassat The lack of breadth of views can explain any deviations from the norms of conscience and morality. hi
      4. BecmepH
        BecmepH 13 December 2017 08: 18 New
        +2
        Quote: Hard Rock
        Look wider

        Homo sateen compresses ...
      5. GRF
        GRF 13 December 2017 10: 20 New
        +5
        Quote: Hard Rock
        Look wider

        Here they are indignant, only because they associate those who eat with Russia, which through these will be humiliated more than once ... Unrequitedly ...

        Because even for our Paralympics we forgot ???
        Remind...
    2. Ami du peuple
      Ami du peuple 13 December 2017 06: 12 New
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      Quote: 210ox
      Ugh on them ...
      This is not "pooh on them," they are pooh on us. Someone answer why I have to pay "neutral athletes" from my taxes? Why does no one deign to heed the opinion of the people, who, overwhelmingly, are against this humiliation and disgrace?
      For me personally, winter sports in Russia are over and I will not fundamentally watch the Olympics. If everyone who believes that the participation of “neutrals with Russia in the heart” in the Olympics is not acceptable would do the same, then, you see, some people will think about it - the broadcast ratings will be low and, accordingly, the advertisers’ profit will also fall. We will answer with the same coin. Is money important to them? Get it!
      I see no other way to convey the opinion of the people.
      1. 210ox
        210ox 13 December 2017 06: 14 New
        +7
        "Some" people will not think about it .. For they will be given ratings anyway ..
        Quote: Ami du peuple
        Quote: 210ox
        Ugh on them ...
        This is not "pooh on them," they are pooh on us. Someone answer, why should I finance "neutral athletes" from my taxes? Why does not anyone deign to heed the opinion of the people, who, overwhelmingly, are against this humiliation and disgrace? For me personally, winter sports in Russia are over and I will not fundamentally watch the Olympics. If everyone who believes that consent to participate in the Olympics and the Grah on such conditions is not acceptable for Russia would do the same, then you see, some people will think about it - ratings
        1. Ami du peuple
          Ami du peuple 13 December 2017 06: 26 New
          10
          Quote: 210ox
          For they will be ranked anyway.
          Tired of drawing. Large Western advertisers do not care about the inflated ratings, they know how to count their cent and, I assure you, they are able to make an objective picture.
    3. Cheshire
      Cheshire 13 December 2017 06: 23 New
      +3
      A country without ideals and principles is what they turn us into ..

      In my opinion this is the stage of preparing the population for occupation - that’s how they think behind a puddle. Only here we have a different mentality, what can you do?
      1. Ami du peuple
        Ami du peuple 13 December 2017 07: 32 New
        12
        Quote: Cheshire
        Only here we have a different mentality, what can you do?
        We have something else, while ours is the so-called "elite" just right. Under the guarantee of personal and financial security, they will easily surrender the country.
        One thing is good: in the post-Soviet era, the West clearly showed that it is impossible to trust his promises (Milosevic, Gaddafi, etc.), therefore, if our "elitists" have at least a little, if not even a mind, but an animal sense of co-preservation, then perhaps still cost ...
        1. BecmepH
          BecmepH 13 December 2017 08: 20 New
          +4
          Quote: Ami du peuple
          there is at least a little, if not even the mind, but the animal sense of self-preservation,

          Greed will defeat the lover
        2. Cheshire
          Cheshire 13 December 2017 08: 30 New
          +2
          hi Elite she is an elite temporarily, an example of kaklov is clear. When the hot kneading begins, everything secret will become apparent, I apologize for plagiarism. yes
          In any case, I’m an optimist, which is what I wish for you. soldier
          1. Victor N
            Victor N 13 December 2017 11: 46 New
            +4
            Individuals may surrender. If I resist, don’t let me down.
            Here we are discussing another attack on our PUBLIC MORALITY - now through sports, and before that, through homosexuals. Equated, however.
  2. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 13 December 2017 06: 02 New
    11
    To justify themselves to millions of fans, everyone said that “Russia is in their hearts”.
    But you can’t wipe your feet on these hearts?
    1. 210ox
      210ox 13 December 2017 06: 07 New
      11
      It is necessary .. And to recall how we met our athletes in the USSR and how they treated them. And about these .. and they forget, or rather do not know.
      Quote: Mavrikiy
      To justify themselves to millions of fans, everyone said that “Russia is in their hearts”.
      But you can’t wipe your feet on these hearts?
    2. Hard Rock
      Hard Rock 13 December 2017 06: 48 New
      +3
      Write nonsense
      1. Mavrikiy
        Mavrikiy 14 December 2017 16: 20 New
        0
        Quote: Hard Rock
        Write nonsense

        Nonsense, fortunately not enough 1 to 11, so .... gurgles brook.
    3. 97110
      97110 14 December 2017 10: 38 New
      +1
      Quote: Mavrikiy
      But you can’t wipe your feet on these hearts?

      They will certainly wipe it out. But how will Guberniev sing when someone from the Russian Federation is crucified there? They will come up with a reason, and the lip-filling machine there for the Pythia from the Sovereign Duma and neutrals with bags for medals is lubricated and tested. She, the lip-filling machine, has a lot of work to do.
  3. Hard Rock
    Hard Rock 13 December 2017 06: 05 New
    +8
    Let them go, good luck! Let the stranglehold in your international committee, the boomerang effect can not be undone, as they say: a stick always has two ends, and one always hits harder! A bunch of liars!
    1. BecmepH
      BecmepH 13 December 2017 08: 26 New
      11
      Quote: Hard Rock
      Let them go, good luck! Let the stranglehold in your international committee, the boomerang effect can not be undone, as they say: a stick always has two ends, and one always hits harder! A bunch of liars!

      May they not strangle. They are saturated with lies and unscrupulousness.
      And our athletes will be even more humiliated. But they will swallow it, and the whole west will make fun of us. They will make fun, and Mutkozhukovs will grimace and apologize.
      1. nikolaev
        nikolaev 13 December 2017 08: 52 New
        0
        Mutko-bug-sledzhuyevo-wiped-lizalovy win?
    2. 97110
      97110 14 December 2017 10: 44 New
      +1
      Quote: Hard Rock
      the boomerang effect cannot be undone

      So, for information to martial arts connoisseurs. Only a toy boomerang from the Children's World is returned if it is launched by a specially trained person. The combat boomerang DOES NOT RETURN! He blows the skull to the enemy! The IOC launched it into our heads, and we joyfully took off the helmet to watch. where the military boomerang launched into our heads will fly. One hope is that there is a KhPP, and it will be made public after our funeral.
  4. pothas
    pothas 13 December 2017 06: 06 New
    +2
    No words alone emotions
  5. fa2998
    fa2998 13 December 2017 06: 07 New
    21
    I’ll be brief. request hi
    1. kepmor
      kepmor 13 December 2017 08: 05 New
      +4
      and they don’t give a damn about your shame .... they are from putinteam ...
  6. NIKOLAI T
    NIKOLAI T 13 December 2017 06: 09 New
    14
    So let the neutral flag and finance them.
    1. 210ox
      210ox 13 December 2017 06: 12 New
      +5
      And they were promised grants ... Only now our state will spit out this IOC anyway .. And so on! Pay and repent! Zhukov! It's bad that it is not out of pocket.
      Quote: Nicholas T
      So let the neutral flag and finance them.
  7. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 13 December 2017 06: 11 New
    10
    About 200 Russian athletes will be able to go.
    Only for each individual decision will be made on the admission of the IOC. Therefore, it is not yet known how much will go as a result. The zeal of sports officials is too understandable - all the profits, and now in any way to drive at least someone to the Olympics. For some reason, it seems that the series of humiliations of our athletes will continue at the games.
    1. hohkn
      hohkn 13 December 2017 13: 15 New
      +3
      Quote: rotmistr60
      For some reason, it seems that a series of humiliations our athletes will continue on games.

      A little correction - not our athletes. Our athletes perform under the Russian or Soviet flag.
  8. cedar
    cedar 13 December 2017 06: 11 New
    10
    "... To justify themselves to millions of fans, everyone said that" Russia is in their hearts. "

    The adversary is rubbing his paws, such as let there be anything in the hearts, the main thing is that all the erefiya, following her sportsmen and sportswomen, would stand under the white flag and surrender Russia.
    You go the crooked road, traitors.
  9. Sars
    Sars 13 December 2017 06: 15 New
    14
    We have in power people of cosmopolitan nationality.
    They are even very happy that Russian athletes will go to the Olympics without a flag.
    No flag - no Russia, no Russians. The younger generation is brought up in the right way.
  10. komynist
    komynist 13 December 2017 06: 20 New
    13
    Betrayal starts small !!! Maybe I’m wrong, but it’s better not to go at all than to sell and keep “Russia in their hearts”.
    Also, the ROC Executive Committee stated that the athletes who decided to participate in the Winter Olympics would be funded from the budget of the Russian Olympic Committee, and that they would be given full support.
    1. komynist
      komynist 13 December 2017 06: 20 New
      +5
      Yes, and what for they need to finance the sold!
  11. oldzek
    oldzek 13 December 2017 06: 22 New
    +5
    I will be very surprised if at least ten champions come from this olympiad. The olympiads are no longer athletes' competitions. Now these are competitions of politicians, financiers, businessmen and pharmacists. And in such competitions we have weak chances. IMHO
    1. SOF
      SOF 13 December 2017 06: 34 New
      +1
      Quote: oldzek
      I will be very surprised if at least ten champions come from this Olympiad.

      ...wait and see.
  12. Rurikovich
    Rurikovich 13 December 2017 06: 30 New
    29
    Personally, my opinion, despite the respect and support of Russia, is a DISADVANTAGE! negative
    Our junior Violetta Skvortsova, when the anthem was not playing, left the pedestal! Athletes are fighting for the COUNTRY, and the main achievement in these victories is when the FLAG RISES AND THE HYMN OF YOUR COUNTRY PLAYS and the whole world sees it !!!
    And interestingly, will these people acting under a white rag respect themselves ??? These games are more important to them than honor ???
    SHAME, SHAME, SHAME !!!!
    Personally, my opinion hi
    1. Nehist
      Nehist 13 December 2017 07: 12 New
      17
      Yes, I watched this broadcast! And how its organizers persuaded to return ... In principle, did not return. Well done Girl
  13. zyzx
    zyzx 13 December 2017 06: 33 New
    +9
    Why does the estranged person make decisions?
  14. Berkut154
    Berkut154 13 December 2017 06: 37 New
    18
    Athlete without a flag and anthem? Sorry for the comparison, it’s like in the “lowered” zone! This is precisely the attitude towards them that will be at the Olympics and at home. Because they will be nobody and call them nothing. Thanks to my neighbors wisely and "forgive us" to Zhukov! Well, those who go there are driven solely by material personal motives.
    1. passing
      passing 13 December 2017 07: 57 New
      +3
      Thanks to my neighbors wisely and "forgive us" to Zhukov!

      They do not care about rushing about somewhere below the plebs.
      Jo ... in the heat, money and hope in the consecrated west. Fse
  15. sa-ag
    sa-ag 13 December 2017 06: 38 New
    +4
    the most interesting thing will come when the athletes who have gone start to win, then they "suddenly" become so good and cool and those who spit on them now will also lick them, weather vane
    1. Berkut154
      Berkut154 13 December 2017 09: 11 New
      +9
      As the figs guessed right! From Alaska our problems are probably more visible!
    2. Mussasi
      Mussasi 13 December 2017 09: 20 New
      +7
      If ours would be boycotted, and some of the athletes left there neutral, then they would have won because of them they would have made dissidents. And so they will all be condemned there, exhausted morally ...
      Not to watch the Olympics in general, this will be my personal position.
    3. cost 75
      cost 75 13 December 2017 09: 52 New
      +2
      Quote: sa-ag
      the most interesting thing will come when the athletes who have gone start to win, then they "suddenly" become so good and cool and those who spit on them now will also lick them, weather vane

      We have a different upbringing. Sales ***** in spite of any medals they will remain so
    4. Topotun
      Topotun 13 December 2017 09: 54 New
      +8
      They will not, and I personally will not watch these games. Russia does not play there, it’s not interesting.
    5. 97110
      97110 14 December 2017 10: 49 New
      +1
      Quote: sa-ag
      when the athletes who go will win

      Cancer on the mountain is time to whistle.
  16. savai
    savai 13 December 2017 06: 38 New
    +4
    Nonsense. Better without these games than a shame ...
  17. Reserve buildbat
    Reserve buildbat 13 December 2017 06: 39 New
    +7
    The strongest athletes will not be allowed, so do not la-la. And if all of them there are ready to perform under a white rag of cowards, then let them go there FOR YOUR ACCOUNT. So that not a penny in the IOC gives a camp that does not participate in the Olympics. Athletes flying the IOC flag? So let him pay them.
  18. svp67
    svp67 13 December 2017 06: 44 New
    10
    Ready to participate in neutral status
    Well, the technology worked out, it's time for our players to prepare for such meetings ...
    The International Football Federation (FIFA) will begin rechecking doping samples of Russian football players from mid-January 2018. It is reported by The Daily Mail.
    According to the publication, the organization will conduct a special analysis of the tubes to establish the possibility of their illegal opening.
    FIFA representatives say they will act according to the method of the International Olympic Committee (IOC) and the World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA). “The World Anti-Doping Agency informed us and other international federations that the analysis of samples can only begin from mid-January 2018,” the federation said.
    On December 8, information appeared in the press that FIFA would receive new data on doping in Russian football from WADA. An unnamed informant provided the agency with a database of a Moscow laboratory on doping tests from January 2012 to August 2015.
    On December 6, IOC President Thomas Bach announced that FIFA should request information from IOC Commissioner Samuel Schmid regarding doping problems in Russian sports. At the moment, evidence of the use of doping by football players has not been found.
    In November, the Schmid commission pleaded guilty to Russian athletes in frauds with doping tests at the Olympics in Sochi. The proof was scratches on test tubes with samples. According to the IOC, this fact indicates that the tubes were opened. Earlier, WADA came to the same conclusion.

    From Zhukov’s statement:
    "We believe that all the strongest Russian athletes will receive an invitation from the IOC"
    And there are STRONG doubts about it ... it seems that the strongest will try to “knock out” us to the maximum, allowing from 5 ... 6 in the lists
    1. Nitochkin
      Nitochkin 13 December 2017 07: 20 New
      +5
      What is there for our “footballers" to beat out? If so, they "play" like driftwood.
      1. svp67
        svp67 13 December 2017 08: 46 New
        +3
        Quote: Nitochkin
        If and so they "play" like driftwood

        They will leave only “decks”, and “mannequins” under the white banner, at their OWN championship
      2. Topotun
        Topotun 13 December 2017 09: 55 New
        +2
        Yeah, for them, only joy will be if they are not allowed to go to the World Cup. It seems they didn’t blow it, but they didn’t let it in. And so they ....
      3. lysyj bob
        lysyj bob 13 December 2017 11: 52 New
        +2
        Quote: Nitochkin
        What is there for our “footballers" to beat out?


        It's not about the players, but in the country of the championship.
  19. kenig1
    kenig1 13 December 2017 06: 46 New
    +1
    The eternal principle of "understand and forgive."
  20. keeper03
    keeper03 13 December 2017 06: 59 New
    +3
    Well, it remains wish our neutrals a fair game - and a long-awaited victoryTo in the final hour they 'turned' into real RUSSIANs !!! angry
  21. samarin1969
    samarin1969 13 December 2017 07: 00 New
    19
    These athletes have sponsorship contracts instead of the homeland. ... They already have enough bread and butter of commercial tournaments. But for the sake of money, they are ready for any humiliation of Russia. However, these "people of the world" do not understand this. ... Real sports "Vlasovites"
  22. Herculesic
    Herculesic 13 December 2017 07: 08 New
    14
    Well, for me, all those who go to the Olympics, who organize this shame, simply do not exist! Ordinary Judah, ready to sell everything for money! There you have the years of liberalism in the country - patriotism in sport is killed tightly! The silence of the sportsmen and bugs about the sport led to the infamous-selling policy of these athletes, as it were, even if they had to stand there, naked and happy, they would do it! What can I say about the Olympics, as well as about sports in general, except that - "Oh sports, you're dead" !!!!
  23. Filxnumx
    Filxnumx 13 December 2017 07: 13 New
    +7
    They have that really nowhere to put the loot? To whom is “comprehensive support,” capitulators, without clan without tribe? Previously, it was necessary to provide it.
    Db! (from). Give this money to those who refused to participate in this disgrace!
  24. Nitochkin
    Nitochkin 13 December 2017 07: 18 New
    +8
    As the saying goes, "Shame is not smoke, eyes will not eat out" and "Money does not smell." Shameful!
  25. The Siberian barber
    The Siberian barber 13 December 2017 07: 41 New
    +4
    One gets the impression that Zhukov, Mutko, etc., act in conjunction with the Americans
  26. cedar
    cedar 13 December 2017 07: 50 New
    +7
    Quote: sa-ag
    the most interesting thing will come when the athletes who have gone start to win, then they "suddenly" become so good and cool and those who spit on them now will also lick them, weather vane


    So the check was arranged not only by him, but also by us.
    Wait, see who, what and how ..?
  27. ul_vitalii
    ul_vitalii 13 December 2017 08: 20 New
    +7
    I have no questions for the athletes, let them go and perform. But how to make sure that for any result of the performance, sports functionaries are not rich?
  28. savage1976
    savage1976 13 December 2017 08: 39 New
    +8
    Get plenty of petroleum jelly on the road and lubricants for non-traditional sexual contacts. Although they will agree without lubrication. And then do not complain how they were humiliated. They themselves chose shame and humiliation.
  29. Enoch
    Enoch 13 December 2017 08: 39 New
    11
    The fish rots from the head.
  30. scrap123
    scrap123 13 December 2017 08: 41 New
    +7
    A bunch of sports degenerates, a disgrace to the whole country ....
  31. nikolaev
    nikolaev 13 December 2017 08: 42 New
    18
    if the athletes of a leading sports nation voluntarily and without exception refuse to participate in violating the honor and dignity of their country - this is VICTORY!
    In this case, the Olympiad loses its meaning and the IOC and WADA lose.
    If they go, then Russia loses, the Olympic movement loses - the villains from the IOC and WADA and those who stand behind them win!
    That is: a trip is a complete and open betrayal, which will remain for the whole life with the one who committed it; after that, your whole future life loses its meaning.
  32. rocket757
    rocket757 13 December 2017 09: 09 New
    +6
    For the country, it just won’t pass ... Kolya boy, now this is a lot of "pleasant things in our heads."
    The "boat" by name - Russia - sways and scoops, scoops ... we will not drown, but we will be bad !!!
    Who can at least explain something to us?
    Who will be the helmsman in a hectic stream?
    Are we swimming there?
    There are many questions .... where are the answers? You’ll figure it out yourself, not small ones .... we can do it ourselves, like a hundred years ago !!!
  33. nikolaev
    nikolaev 13 December 2017 09: 09 New
    +1
    the honor of the omission is how?
  34. Umnichka
    Umnichka 13 December 2017 09: 28 New
    +9
    I liked to be humiliated, the liberals are gaining the upper hand. Even if the mok makes a condition, as in the film “Kin-dza-dza”, it’s foolish to say “Kuuu”, while sitting down and spreading your arms will still go, because “Russia is in their hearts”. Our athletes agreed to be clowns, they were bent, and they saw positive moments. It remains to naturally spit in the face - they will go anyway. Shame and lack of will. It's disgusting. Zhukov is a bureaucrat, according to his speech it is clear that he is ashamed of himself, but the place is more expensive. Bestiality.
    PS It will be necessary to send Vaseline to the address: 119991, Moscow, Luzhnetskaya nab., 8.
    And from pragmatics - now humiliation will go further, not to stop. All this together leads to the destruction of the country, our Motherland, so desired by the West.
  35. scrap123
    scrap123 13 December 2017 09: 53 New
    +2
    And what races such a dance may not be a zapadlo will generally become one of the states of Motrasia ... su ... but no words
  36. den3080
    den3080 13 December 2017 09: 59 New
    +6
    Yesterday I saw the beginning of this meeting on the box and did not look further.
    Extremely painful impression. Such meetings were held in the most stagnant Brezhnev time. The presidium has a bunch of perishable old-timers and two younger ones, but very trying to be like these grandfathers (the minister of sports with glass eyes, but he was a good athlete, and the girl is even younger).
    Shamefully it all looks. The muzzles are “protocol” and this is their 100% fault (rochen and others), now something unintelligible bleat. Nausea is continuous.
  37. rudolff
    rudolff 13 December 2017 10: 10 New
    +9
    "The flag of Russia and the anthem in stadiums and other venues for athletes will be banned."
    The story with diplomats / consulates, the ban on participation in the Olympic Games under one's own flag, are all links in one chain. They put Russia in a stall, they turn a great country into a territory, and our Kremlin sitters tell us with a clever look that it is very cool! N-yes ... I underestimated Putin. Now I understand that he will surpass Yeltsin.
  38. oleole97
    oleole97 13 December 2017 10: 20 New
    +1
    Does the heart forget
    one who wants you well
    the one who brings you to people,
    who brings you to the master
  39. prior
    prior 13 December 2017 10: 31 New
    +5
    Even if one of the “athletes from Russia” receives a medal in Korea, is that a medal for treason? What is its price? with which face will they come back? What is the pride of such a “medal of shame”?
    In books they write that earlier, because of honor, they fought in a duel. They probably lie ...
    It turns out and Pushkin, and Lermontov, and others ... all in vain.
    Thanks to the "Olympians from Russia" (the hand does not rise to write with a capital letter) - everything is available about the honor explained.
  40. weksha50
    weksha50 13 December 2017 11: 06 New
    +6
    “To justify before millions of fans, everyone said that“ Russia is in their hearts"" ...

    Not all...


    good hi drinks
  41. weksha50
    weksha50 13 December 2017 11: 07 New
    +2
    "The flag of Russia and the anthem at stadiums and other venues for athletes to perform will be banned. And only fans are allowed to come with the symbols of the country they represent."....



    laughing hi
    1. lysyj bob
      lysyj bob 13 December 2017 12: 04 New
      +1
      Nobody forbade St. George ribbons
  42. rodus
    rodus 13 December 2017 11: 13 New
    +3
    Can offer Pyongyang to twist for the period of the Olympics from the Farewells of Slavyanka reproducers at maximum speed ?! laughing laughing laughing
    1. 97110
      97110 14 December 2017 11: 02 New
      +1
      Quote: rodus
      "Farewell of the Slavyanka" at maximum speed ?!

      With the words of Vysotsky (?), Where
      "Once I walked around the capital,
      Two passersby accidentally hurt ... "
      It will be very topical, about a girl with low social responsibility ..
  43. Romin
    Romin 13 December 2017 11: 15 New
    +5
    On the face is another link in the policy of "appeasement" from Vladimir Putin towards the "West" after the events with the "return" of Crimea. "Peace" began immediately and continues in the Donbas, the first withdrawal of troops from Syria (now the second), the lack of response to the "capture" of diplomatic missions.
    Vladimir Putin was actually scared of sanctions, and this must be admittedly obvious.
    Frightened by disconnecting from the banking system, freezing the northern stream, seizing funds from state-owned companies and officials in the offshore ... The ghost of the Iron Curtain frightened our president so much that the authorities are still toothless and tail-tail not ready to defend Russia's interests, but ready to defend clearly interests of the oligarchs (as we see, the political interests associated with gas-oil-atom are pursued). Something like hemp and honey, only they ended;), and the rulers who sold hemp and honey, held the authority of Russia, RI. And they were not afraid not only to declare their clear, but also to act! They could unite the interests of the "oligarchs" and the country in one vector.
    It must be noted that Vladimir Putin cannot do this.
    Facts speak of this.

    I set;) 10: 1 that the president will accept a white flag and send athletes to the Olympic Games.
    Once again, we have a state sports system!
    Athletes themselves did not decide anything.
    As they said, that’s what they did (they kept the decision level, so to speak)
    And spit in athletes, this is the same as spitting on yourself;)
    Refuse Western imported equipment, things, clothes, products, quit organizations with Western capital or where there is Western equipment - punish the West!
    Start each with himself! And then throw a stone at the athletes - they have nothing to do with it - these are the "soldiers" of the state sports system!
    Who does not, as ordered, to exit.
    A trip of athletes on a white flag to the Olympic Games is the decision of our President Vladimir Putin.
    Our officials from the “team of the president" do not make such decisions on their own! And you hang everything on athletes;) Think in the end with your own head!
    1. scrap123
      scrap123 13 December 2017 11: 28 New
      +4
      Yes, do not la la la everyone has their own head, and V.V.P. he decided to see who is worth what, at the end we will see
    2. rudolff
      rudolff 13 December 2017 12: 02 New
      +2
      Romin, I agree with you on everything, but as for the athletes themselves ... Of course, they shouldn’t give a damn, but they don’t really need to be protected. They are what they are. Physical education or mass sport is based on health, the ability to fully live and work. And at the heart of the sport of high achievements is self-centeredness. I'm cooler, I'm stronger, I'm the fastest! I AM! All life revolves around one's own body. Eat right, sleep right, exercise properly ... And they sneeze by and large on both the country and the people. In recent decades, a mercantile component has been added to this egocentrism. You become a pro, you achieve high results - you become rich. In some sports in the Major Leagues, there are entirely millionaires. Relations between athletes and the state, this is a kind of agreement. You carry out certain propaganda functions, and we help you to declare yourself, to realize. If better conditions are offered somewhere, they will gladly change both flag and citizenship. For better or worse, I don’t know. It's just the psychology of modern sport.
    3. Fitter65
      Fitter65 13 December 2017 12: 16 New
      +1
      Quote: Romin
      A trip of athletes on a white flag to the Olympic Games is the decision of our President Vladimir Putin.

      Well, here the president has a solid alibi when the contestants made a decision - he was abroad. There are memorable photos and videos. So the president has nothing to do with it laughing repeat
  44. Fitter65
    Fitter65 13 December 2017 12: 13 New
    +3
    Also, the ROC Executive Committee stated that the athletes who decided to participate in the Winter Olympics would be funded from the budget of the Russian Olympic Committee, and that they would be given full support.

    That is, out of the pocket of Russian citizens, because Russia’s ok is not a private shop, Abramovich seems to sponsor only Angliysk football. It would be better to finance a real increase in salaries and pensions, and not these “with Russia in the heart.” our media didn’t sing (by the way, Russian television already agreed to broadcast oi-2018) for me they will remain people who betrayed the MOTHERLAND, people without honor and conscience ...
  45. Semyonych
    Semyonych 13 December 2017 12: 13 New
    +5
    Just a shame. 200 people want, and the opinion of the rest poh .. Snot wiped, everything that can be framed. Cheeks and stuff. Ugh! I will not watch.
  46. LUCKY777
    LUCKY777 13 December 2017 13: 26 New
    +3
    The IOC spat in the face of Russia and our athletes, athletes spit in the face of the people. Let gentlemen, everyone in their place, take and go someone, where, who with what, we have only one chance! Rodchenkov used his chance, he’s done, he’s a fighter for the truth! And our athletes, also fighters for themselves.
    But seriously - Zhukov resigned! Games a national boycott and life suspension! Neutral athletes - anathema! Give your games and olympiads and preferably physical and mathematical! You won’t be fed up with sports, and Ukraine will throw us spectacles.
  47. iljael
    iljael 13 December 2017 13: 43 New
    0
    Not renounce loving !
  48. 16112014nk
    16112014nk 13 December 2017 13: 47 New
    +2
    Salvage in the face of the so-called "athletes" won common sense and patriotism. True patriotism, and not the one about which the loafers of the bugs and wisely and the "athletes" hang out.
  49. Romin
    Romin 13 December 2017 13: 54 New
    +1
    To the question of patriotism ...
    I am for the fact that athletes did not go to this Olympics (without a bycot) and the rights to broadcast were not bought, did not recognize McLaren's report and did not pay 15 million to him for this report. This is my civic position!
    But ...
    It seems from what I read that now the majority will finish in an emotional peak that our athletes are fascists and we need to shoot them;))
    And what were they different a year ago?
    Athletes do what they are told.
    Athletes have no choice but to agree to go or put a bullet in their participation in the sport of Russia.
    Because the sports state SYSTEM of Russia made the decision to go, having worked out the decision of the president.
    And it's all!
    How can you “throw” athletes out of the system, do they make decisions on their own somewhere?
    A person who thinks that an athlete is free to go to a particular competition or to choose something is generally not even superficially familiar with the state sports system of the Russian Federation!
    Understand, please, throwing a stone and blaming athletes - you blame the same state sports system! You blame the President of the Russian Federation V.V. Putin for all that you blame the athletes!
    The system has a clear vertical, political and nomenclature vertical, and the athletes at the very bottom of this vertical are “soldiers”!
    They are part of the system, as they were told, so they did!
    Are you any? Sorry, strange, enchanted or something.
    Here is VV Putin good- But Medvedev, then no. (probably Medvedev and the government appointed itself;)))))) I can’t rzhu;))))) A good king has bad boyars;)
    This is probably a cunning plan, V.V. Putin - so cleverly to do everything .. see how the athletes vote, that would certainly get rid of the sports enemies of Russia forever!
    Do you REALLY think so ?????
    How can you put out the brackets in the equation, isolate the fundamental links from the process and think that it all worked out by itself and blame it on the link (of the athletes) who solve nothing!
    May I ask you a little question where did you study at all?
    Do you have 2x2 = 5?
    These are not bad athletes! This sports state system is bad!
    Bad ones who created this system and manage it!
    Athletes can in this case only accept the rules of the game and go!
    Or refuse, thereby pointing the SYSTEM at its nullity and go against the system.
    Vladimir Putin spoke on this issue, members of the government, for those who are especially “deaf” and who see a hidden meaning in something, chewed on the essence - we must go! All voiced by all federal channels!
    The system has decided to perform under the white flag!
    The athlete has the right to individually refuse.
    Express your civic position.
    And here our (athlete, yours and mine) positions on the issue of Patriotism coincide, because
    I am for the fact that athletes did not go to this Olympics (without a bycot) and the rights to broadcast were not bought, did not recognize McLaren's report and did not pay 15 million to him for this report. This is my civic position!
    But my civic position, like yours and that of an athlete who refused to go, does not correspond to the position of Russian President Vladimir Putin and the Russian government on this issue.
    This is the problem !!!
    Here the posts are laid out "Selling athletes ..! We are disappointed in you ... we hate, we will not forgive!"
    And then what about the position of the president and government of the Russian Federation !!! On the issue of Patriotism in this case !!!
    Oops! ;)
    What is weak to face the truth?
    Do you want athletes !!
    1. 97110
      97110 14 December 2017 11: 16 New
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      Quote: Romin
      And then what about the position of the president and government of the Russian Federation !!! On the issue of Patriotism in this case !!!

      Recently there was an article here, just on the topic of why the President acted this way. Search lazily, excuse me. The author claimed that the President was forced to let the athletes go, otherwise they would have left without permission. The moment is controversial, but you strongly doubt the ability of ours, with Russia in the heart, to change citizenship? How many successful ones, to become a resident ... well, not of England - this is very cool, but will some guanine underdeveloped island offer in Oceania? Or in the Caribbean? And the athletes from the Khanty-Mansi Autonomous Okrug, with Russia in their hearts, with a flag of 3 bananas, as they will be allowed to ski, Norwegians will not be justified at home.
  50. pioneer example to all guys
    pioneer example to all guys 13 December 2017 15: 01 New
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    that "Russia is in their hearts." In their hearts, "grandmothers."