Galicia and Soviet power in 1939-1941. Way to Calvary

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The fate of Western Ukraine was decided in the dramatic conditions of the beginning of the Second World War. In September, 1939, the Red Army troops entered the territory of Western Ukrainian lands in order, as reported in official documents, to prevent the Germans from occupying these lands. On the very first day, they managed to advance deeper into the territory by 70-100 kilometers and capture the cities of Ternopil, Rivne, Chertkov. The next day, Lutsk, Galich, Stanislav were taken under control, and a day later the Soviet troops reached the city of Lviv.

The local population ambiguously perceived the appearance of the Red Army in Western Ukraine. Some considered them liberators, others - occupiers. Most of the Polish civil servants — engineers, officers, lawyers, and doctors — together with their families, were forced to emigrate. Only on that part of Poland, which was occupied by the Germans, about 20-30 thousands of people, mostly young people, moved.

But the bulk of the Western Ukrainian population, including employees in the commercial and industrial sector, middle-level technical personnel, employees of cooperative and financial bodies, waited for events to develop in the future, without showing any activity. There were also those who, behind external activity, tried to hide their true moods and attitudes, thus trying to protect themselves.

Almost immediately after the entry of Soviet troops into the territory of Western Ukraine, representatives of political parties formed a delegation headed by the elder of Ukrainian political figures in Galicia, 80-year-old Kost Levitsky. During the meeting between the delegates, representatives of the Red Army and civilian high-ranking officials, which took place on 24 on September 1939, they assured of their full loyalty and readiness to cooperate with the new authorities. In return, they asked only to preserve the opportunity for the activities of Ukrainian cultural, educational and economic institutions. However, the Soviet government did not keep its promises.

And the whole thing was that the leadership of the USSR among its priorities in Galicia saw the rapid and complete destruction of not only real, but also possible political opponents. That is why the repressions that began in September-October of 1939 affected almost all leaders of political parties. They were arrested and taken eastwards. According to the "Krakow news" for 1942 a year, more than 250 Galician intellectuals died or were exported to Siberia during these repressive measures. Almost exactly the same way, without any noise, mostly at night, the leaders of Jewish and Polish political organizations and parties were also arrested.

The repression tightened with the onset of 1940. Thus, the decision of the regional party committee of the city of Drohobych stated that due to the fact that more than 3 thousands of enemy elements were in leadership positions at many trading enterprises, cooperatives, and industry, local party bodies were obliged to carry out a decisive struggle.

The deportations of the Western Ukrainian population of 1939-1941, which were used as a measure of administrative punishment and political persecution, became a real tragedy for the people. The repressive actions carried out by the Soviet leadership had not only political and ideological, but also economic and class reasons. First of all, these measures were intended to undermine the structure of the Polish administrative and state apparatus, property and management system. Thus, such a policy led to the fact that not only the real enemies who opposed it were included in the lists of the enemies of the Soviet Union, but also the loyal-minded population, which very critically evaluated the methods of building power undertaken by Stalin.

Soviet officials, together with the NKVD, everywhere sought out "counter-revolutionaries" and "enemies of the people", using Stalin's theory of class struggle as a guide to action. All suspicious, in their opinion, individuals were taken on record, they were followed by surveillance. Thus, they automatically turned into the most possible candidates for destruction or arrest. The other side of the problem was that the Soviet economic sphere was developing in a command-administrative system, which required a constant influx of fresh labor. This problem was particularly acute in the Far East, in Siberia and in the North. All those people who were repressed from Western Ukraine, turned into a cheap and powerless labor force, which was intended for the development and settlement of the most remote Soviet areas. And since all the deported Ukrainians fell under the special settlement regime, respectively, they did not have any political or economic rights.

To date, it has not been possible to establish the exact number of people deported from Western Ukraine in 1939-1941. Different works give different numbers. For example, Professor Jan Gross from the United States of America indicates the number of 1 million 250 thousands of deportees, referring to the memorandums of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the London émigré government in Poland.

According to the claims of Moscow historians Valentina Parsadanova and Nikolai Bugay, this figure is already 1 million 173 thousands of deported. In their studies, they used the documentation that is stored in the State Archives of Russia.

Polish scientist Andrzej Szczesniak conducts a more detailed study, stopping at each separate stage of deportation. So, the victims of the first period were 220 thousands of people. The second period already covered 320 thousand, the third - 220 thousand and, finally, the fourth - about 300 thousand civilians. Moreover, as the researcher notes, among the deportees were not only skilled workers, wealthy peasants, railway workers and intellectuals, but also members of their families, including children.

According to archival materials, deportation plans were developed in Moscow and operated by repressive structures. Planning for mass deportation events began in 1939. According to the Soviet-German agreement on 28, September 1939 was planned to deport Ukrainians and Belarusians from border areas. In January, the 1940-meter frontier was determined by the instructions of the politburo of the Central Committee of the CPSU (b), and in April of that year, the leadership of the western regions of the Ukrainian SSR was tasked to evict more than 800 thousands of people.

Another similar action of the Soviet leadership led to the complete eviction of residents from a large area of ​​the Lviv region. This is the construction of the Yavorov landfill, which began in the same year 1939. Most of the population of Lviv and Yavorov were forcibly taken to Bessarabia and remote areas of the USSR.

At the end of December 1939, with the adoption of the provision on special settlers and their employment, all the work on the preparation and conduct of deportation measures was entrusted to the NKVD. According to the archive data of the Information Bureau of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Ukraine, more than 1940 thousand people were subject to 95 for a year of deportation from Western Ukraine. In order to transport such a number of people, more than 3 were allocated with a half thousand cars that were not designed for such purposes at all.

The first wave of deportation took only three days, but during this short period of time more than 89 thousand people were taken out. At the second stage, the well-to-do peasants who owned plots of land more than the established norm were subject to deportation. Formally, the reason for their deportation was to live in close proximity to military facilities, which were built not only along the borders, but also in the depths of the Western Ukrainian territories.

The third wave of deportation included the families of the repressed who were in camps for prisoners of war, as well as former officers, police gendarmes and landowners.

During the implementation of the deportation activity, much attention was paid to the confiscation and redistribution of household property and production resources. Private property has become common. Over the years, more than 2 thousands of industrial enterprises have been confiscated. Lands, cattle, equipment and seeds confiscated from the landowners were distributed to landless or landowner peasants. The reorganization was also subjected to the education system, which was rebuilt under the Soviet way and consisted in the prohibition of the Ukrainian language.

However, the arbitrariness of the NKVD has caused widespread discontent among the population. Thus, the policy of the Soviet Union in Western Ukraine did not at all contribute to stabilizing the situation in the region.
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  1. +4
    April 6 2012 08: 44
    A competent person, he wrote such a scandalous article ... Naturally, deportations were and should have been ... For too long the memory was in Poland and did not correspond to communist ideals ...
    Yes, and most of these activities were carried out by local authorities ...
    1. +3
      April 6 2012 08: 51
      In general, I agree .. But ... Probably now because they are talking about this topic there, they gradually realize that the west and east of the country have remained completely unconnected .. Two different countries, two different peoples and two different histories and cultures. ..
    2. YARY
      +2
      April 6 2012 09: 09
      It’s impossible to say more precisely. A small addition-memory was stuffed with intelligence agents and this is normal. IT was "cleaned up" and that's okay too.
      1. +5
        April 6 2012 14: 43
        Quote: Ardent
        More precisely, it is impossible to say. A small addition-memory was stuffed with intelligence agents and this is normal. IT was "cleaned up" and this is also normal.


        FROM THE ORIENTATION OF THE THIRD DEPARTMENT OF THE NKGB OF THE USSR ON THE ACTIVITIES OF ILLEGAL ANTI-SOVIET NATIONALIST ORGANIZATIONS IN THE WESTERN REGIONS OF THE USSR AND BSSR 31 May 1941 city

        Anti-Soviet Ukrainian emigration is concentrated mainly in countries adjacent to the USSR: Germany, including the Governor General and the Czech-Moravian Protectorate, Romania, the Balkans, Finland, Manzhougo, as well as in Italy, Canada and the USA.
        The most active formations are: "Organization of Ukrainian Nationalists" (OUN), "Ukrainian National Association" (UNO), "Hetmans" - supporters of the former hetman of Ukraine Pavlo Skoropadsky.
        1. "Organization of Ukrainian Nationalists" (OUN) created in 1920 by Colonel Yevgeny Konovalets. After his assassination in 1938, the OUN is headed by Colonel Andrey Melnik (lives in Berlin), the former chief of staff of the "Sich Riflemen" corps in Ukraine in 1918-1920.
        The OUN management center - the main wire - is located in Berlin, and the organization’s numerous branches are in all countries where Ukrainians live. From the very beginning of its existence, OUN has been operating under the leadership of German intelligence. The direct executor of her instructions on the OUN is a member of the main wire, Ryko-Yary, permanently residing in Berlin. The OUN politically leads all other Ukrainian organizations on the territory of Germany itself, the protectorate and the governor general. All branches of the OUN are used for intelligence purposes in favor of Germany. Particular attention is paid to the creation of residencies in countries bordering the USSR - Romania, Turkey, Manzhou-Guo, Finland to conduct intelligence work against the USSR ..
        2. "Ukrainian National Union" (UNO) is a legal mass organization of Ukrainian emigration and serves as a broad base of manpower reserves for the OUN UNO organized in the summer of 1933 and officially registered by the Berlin authorities on December 1, 1933 In the charter of the UNO its goals are defined as follows: a) the struggle for the independence of Ukraine; b) protection of Ukrainian national interests; c) implementation of a unified leadership of the Ukrainian emigration; d) the development and implementation of economic and administrative management methods corresponding to the spirit of the times at the time of the liberation of the country and the seizure of power. "Until 1939, all the work of the UNO was carried out under the leadership and instructions of the" Rosenberg Bureau "(Alfred Rosenberg - head of the foreign policy department of the German fascist party) In recent years, the UNO has developed a great deal of activity under the direct leadership of the main line of the OUN.The number of members of the UNO increased from 550 people in 1938 to 18000 in 1941. The UNO Center is in Berlin, and its branches are located in all settlements in Germany and the occupied her territories where Ukrainians live.
        3. "Hetman" headed by Pavel Skoropadsky and his son Danila (live in their villa in Wannsee near Berlin). The "hetmans" are operating under the cover of the social and political organization "Ukrainian community", which was officially authorized by the Germans in 1940 and has its branches, in addition to Germany itself, also in Austria, the protectorate and the governor-general. General Vovk. Skoropadsky and his organization are subsidized by the German government and, in addition, receive funds from Canada and the United States, where the hetman and his organizations in Chicago, Detroit and other industrial centers of America enjoy the patronage of Ford.

        The idea of ​​creating an "independent Ukraine" continues to be cultivated and encouraged by the Germans, who financially, organizationally and politically support the counter-revolutionary organizations of Ukrainian nationalists and use them for intelligence and sabotage purposes against the USSR.
        The Krakow center of the OUN, which operates with the support and instructions of the Germans, until now directly directs all the illegal anti-Soviet work of the OUN in the western regions of the Ukrainian SSR, where the OUN is the main underground organization of Ukrainian nationalists. From the very first days of the liberation of Western Ukraine, the OUN launched a struggle against Soviet power under the slogan of creating an "independent Ukraine." At first, the tactics of the OUN underground, according to the directive of the main wire from Berlin, was that, without openly showing their hostility to the Soviet regime and the Red Army, "it is obligatory for all members of the OUN to take leading positions in all institutions and organizations, so that there were members of the OUN, the existing weapons should not be handed over, hidden and kept, all weapons should be kept strictly under the OUN line. "
        The Ounovsky underground goes over to increasingly acute forms of struggle and in December 1939 in a number of places tried to organize armed demonstrations with the aim of seizing power.
        The practical work of the illegal OUN organizations in 1940 focused on the preparation of an armed uprising. Along with this, according to the directive of the Krakow center, the activities of the OUN underground were aimed at collecting espionage information in favor of the Germans. Along with this, at the direction of the Zakordon center, bandit groups were created from illegal OUN members, whose task was to intimidate the population and disorganize the work of local authorities by means of terrorist and sabotage acts. The UNOs had at their disposal underground shelters, secret printing houses and radio stations, equipped even during the Polish government, and a large number of weapons. OUN illegal immigrants are well trained in the sense of illegal technology, hardened and very aggressive personnel. As a rule, when arrested, the OUN members show armed resistance and try to commit suicide. OUN members, suspected of collaborating with the Soviet government, are physically destroyed by members of the organization. After the blows inflicted on the OUN underground in 1940 and the arrest of most of its leaders, the Cracow Center issued a directive to radically change the practice of illegal work, for which: a) "remove from active the work of all illegal immigrants and persons who came to the attention of the NKVD organs "; b) "in each district, leave two chiefs (capable organizers), and assign all the rest of the work to the members of the OUN who are in a legal position"; c) "to transfer illegal workers in an organized manner, using all active measures, up to an armed breakthrough, over the cordon" (to save these personnel from repression and prepare them for a return transfer to the Ukrainian SSR for active operations in the spring of 1941); d) "to observe strict secrecy, physically destroying every member of the organization who violated this rule." OUN members who are in a legal position Recently, agency-investigative materials have established that the OUN members have re-intensified their work, despite the significant withdrawals of the OUN personnel, illegal OUN organizations still operate in all western regions of the Ukrainian SSR ...

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      2. Oboz
        0
        April 9 2012 12: 44
        Already general. Do you experiment without knowledge? Complete psychology !!!! :-) Do you want to vulgarize the title?
        1. Oboz
          -1
          April 9 2012 15: 03
          I am furious! Assessment of contribution is vulgarized. I am a reader.
          Provocateur Ardent. Destroy for money. All. Not looking.
    3. DYMITRY
      +5
      April 6 2012 09: 28
      Quote: domokl
      wrote such a scandalous article.

      I would even say frankly stinking. Just the same joy of Bandera. So not far from the billion personally shot by Stalin Ukrainians, and one hundred and forty thousand years of history of ancient ukrov.
    4. -5
      April 6 2012 09: 32
      Historically, Western Ukraine and Western Belarus for a very long time were under the rule of Poland in various forms of manifestation of its statehood and never had their own. Under the rule of the Russian Empire they were in a rather short historical period. Comrade Tukhachevsky crap liquid near Warsaw, as a result of which the Bolsheviks returned these territories again to Poland.
      Now tell me, gentlemen, why do we, condemning the imposition by the United States of our democracy, our worldview and understanding around the world, justify the same acts, but committed by the Stalinist regime in its paranoid desire for a world revolution?
      Note that the majority of the population treated the Soviet regime either loyally or took a wait-and-see attitude without any intention of resistance. A turning point in public consciousness occurred later, and did not happen in favor of the Soviet government due to unjustified mass repressions of the new authorities. As a result of the criminal policies of the Stalinist regime, we have almost full support for the acupunders during the Second World War and the image of the enemy represented by Russia to this day.
      Hence the conclusion that the statements about the naturalness of the deportation of the population sound now because it did not correspond to communist ideals (and it could not correspond, since it did not live under the communist regime), as well as justification of mass repressions by the initiative of local authorities (in the Stalin USSR and you don’t have a finger to move without permission from above, or you think that members of the Central Committee should have made the arrests and executions) is either not knowing (or not wanting to know) real historical facts, or a deliberate provocation in order to prevent mutual understanding between different Slavic communities.
      1. Vadim555
        +4
        April 6 2012 10: 46
        Quote: Jackyun
        but created by the Stalinist regime in its paranoid desire for a world revolution?


        Have you come up with yourselves or subtracted in the training manual?
        The idea of ​​a world revolution is the idea of ​​Trotsky, and Stalin just broke it all.
      2. Charon
        +6
        April 6 2012 10: 53
        Answer.
        Firstly, under the rule of the Russian Empire, these territories were a very long historical period from the partitions of the Commonwealth in the 17th century, and under the rule of Poland itself (and not ON) for only 18 years.
        Since these territories have never had their own state, historically Russia has had their preferred rights.
        Secondly, the world revolution is Trotsky. Stalin restored the empire. If he planned the world revolution, then clearly beyond the horizon of his own life. So there is no need to talk about paranoia.
        Thirdly, it is naive to believe that if there were no arrests, these individuals would become friends. But on the eve of the war, stripping the front line from unwanted elements is more than justified. Of course, if you knew in advance how the history of the Great Patriotic War would go, it would be politically more reasonable to leave these people to the Germans so that they would kill them (not take them out, but kill them). But this is a dirty approach.

        In short, the strong always acts according to its own logic. Therefore, it wins.
        1. Kievan
          -5
          April 6 2012 11: 31
          Quote: Charon
          Answer.
          Firstly, under the rule of the Russian Empire, these territories were a very long historical period from the partitions of the Commonwealth in the 17th century, and under the rule of Poland itself (and not ON) for only 18 years.

          Western Ukraine was not under the authority of the Republic of Ingushetia as a result of the partition of Poland, it moved to Austria-Hungary. Learn the story.
          Quote: Charon
          Since these territories have never had their own state, historically Russia has had their preferred rights.

          This idea was so unsupported by the population that 1.2 million were exported to Siberia. And thousands of people executed in prisons in the early days of the war.

          Quote: Charon
          Thirdly, it is naive to believe that if there were no arrests, these individuals would become friends. But on the eve of the war, stripping the front line from unwanted elements is more than justified. Of course, if you knew in advance how the history of the Great Patriotic War would go, it would be politically more reasonable to leave these people to the Germans so that they would kill them (not take them out, but kill them). But this is a dirty approach.

          If the USSR granted independence, it would surely be friends in the face of a common enemy. So this approach would not be dirty, but far-sighted. Partisans would then be Galicians against the Germans, and not against the USSR.
          1. Charon
            +6
            April 6 2012 11: 52
            Quote: Kievite
            Western Ukraine was not under the authority of the Republic of Ingushetia as a result of the partition of Poland, it moved to Austria-Hungary. Learn the story.


            The territory that was transferred to Poland following the war of the 20s is somewhat larger than Galicia. Learn geography.

            Quote: Kievite
            This thought was so unsupported by the population


            In your opinion, what should be the correct attitude to the potential fifth column in the future frontline?

            Quote: Kievite
            If the USSR granted independence, it would surely be friends in the face of a common enemy


            Firstly, not a fact. They could well have chosen the other side, which freed them from Polish oppression. Secondly, and more likely, they would be immediately picked up by neighbors on the other hand. And the blitzkrieg would start at the walls of Kiev. So under supervision more reliable. And the fact that the initial pre-war calculations did not materialize is another matter.
          2. Vadim555
            +2
            April 6 2012 11: 54
            Quote: Kievite
            Western Ukraine was not under the authority of the Republic of Ingushetia as a result of the partition of Poland, it moved to Austria-Hungary.


            Here you are right.
            This is what AvtoVengriya did with the people living on these lands.

            Kill a Russian in yourself
            http://video.yandex.ru/users/devilseo/view/102/
          3. +9
            April 6 2012 13: 36
            Quote: Kievite

            This idea was so unsupported by the population that 1.2 million were exported to Siberia. And thousands of people executed in prisons in the early days of the war.


            After the military operation to establish control over the eastern regions of Poland - Western Belarus and Western Ukraine, an arrest campaign began in these territories. According to the statistical reports of the Main Directorate of State Security of the NKVD, studied by O. A. Gorlanov and A. B. Roginsky, 1939 people were arrested on charges of counter-revolutionary crimes from September 1941 to June 108 [
            In addition, in 1940, three mass deportations of the population from Western Belarus and Western Ukraine were carried out:
            in February 1940, about 140 thousand Polish settlers and foresters with their families were taken to special settlements of the NKVD in the northern and eastern regions of the USSR;
            in April 1940, an administrative expulsion to Kazakhstan of about 61 thousand family members of arrested members of underground organizations, officers of the Polish army, police officers, jailers, gendarmes, landowners, manufacturers and officials of the Polish state apparatus followed. The heads of these families were mostly shot
            at the end of June 1940, about 78 thousand refugees from the territories of Poland occupied by Nazi Germany were deported, who refused to accept Soviet citizenship. Among them were many Jews.

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            A link to the secret documents of the NKVD on this issue in my comment below
            My webpage
            Information about the Gulag prisoners by year and nationality
            My webpage

            Enough to duplicate frankly FALSE facts and documents in the studio
        2. oiuy
          -7
          April 6 2012 12: 24
          Charon
          1.Soviet Russia didn’t have any rights at all! Based on your logic, Germany had no less rights to Poland and Ukraine lol I am already silent about the right to SELF-DETERMINE these countries .. Or did Stalin not allow this? Who gave him the right to occupy Western Ukraine?
          2. Stalin just REALIZED Trotsky's idea of ​​a world revolution! This is clear to any person who reads a little bit. 24 thousand tanks alone riveted to protect their own collective farms? laughing
          3. So there is no need to attack other countries - there will be no one to deport! And then local users make round eyes and are outraged that the Chekists and Red Guards were shot from the back ... so what did you all want? He is an occupier and an occupier in Africa, and he must be killed! My friend, if Stalin was preparing for the defense, why then "cleanse" the territory? or preparing for the attack? lol or are you yourself confused?
          Here the USA today acts as they want, and everyone else will be hysterical by any sneeze, because they are not capable of more ... Yes
          1. Vadim555
            +2
            April 6 2012 12: 31
            Quote: oiuy
            Here the USA today acts as they want, and everyone else will be hysterical for any sneeze, because they are not capable of more

            Everything has its time.
          2. Charon
            +5
            April 6 2012 12: 39
            1. It seems that for Soviet Russia you leave only the right to hara-kiri. Based on my logic, Germany had the right to Silesia and generally those Polish territories that it received after the partition of the Commonwealth. Austria has historical rights to Galicia.
            2. Stalin was preparing for war with Germany. Therefore, to protect the collective farms (only not their own, he did not own land shares in them) and riveted 24 thousand tanks.
            3. What you wrote is evidence of a deep misunderstanding of the military and historical processes. Do not consider it an insult, but cannot be explained in two lines. There you have to read a whole lecture.
          3. +4
            April 6 2012 13: 19
            Quote: oiuy
            1.Soviet Russia didn’t have any rights at all! Based on your logic, Germany had no less rights to Poland and Ukraine lol I am silent about the right to SELF-DETERMINE these countries .. Or did Stalin not allow this? Who gave him the right to occupy Western Ukraine?

            Before you write this, you have at least studied the history book.
            The border of Poland along the Curzon Line is drawn along ethnic lines, as a result of the end of the First World War. Western Belarus and Ukraine are part of Belarus and Ukraine, which in 1922 formed the USSR. Therefore, the USSR had full rights to this territory under the occupation of Poland.
            Quote: oiuy
            2. Stalin just REALIZED Trotsky's idea of ​​a world revolution! This is clear to any person who reads a little bit. 24 thousand tanks alone riveted to protect their own collective farms?

            A little knowledgeable person understands that if the USSR had plans for a world revolution, then in 1945 they could be implemented very realistically. It is only those who do not read at all can talk about this nonsense - the implementation of the world revolution. Plans for the implementation of the world revolution were pushed back by Stalin during the time of industrialization. By the way, the departure from these plans greatly disappointed the young Shurik Solzhenitsin, as his maman recalled.

            Quote: oiuy
            3. So there is no need to attack other countries - there will be no one to deport! My friend, if Stalin was preparing for the defense, why then "cleanse" the territory? or preparing for the attack? lol or are you confused yourself?

            Well, and this is generally stupid written by a civilian.
      3. +7
        April 6 2012 11: 28
        For Jackyun.
        You made these conclusions based on this article? Or do you have some cooler facts? You have forgotten one more fact, which the author of the article stubbornly kept silent about - this is the Vilna region. The Soviet Union simply bought it from the Germans. Lithuania owes its territorial integrity to the USSR and Stalin. Or, if you're so fair, take it back.
        As for the "disaffected", it was shown by the Second World War. During the war, Belarus lost a third of the population and probably not for living under the lyakhami.
        The Birch-Kartuzkaya camp created by the Poles in 1934 is probably a resort for Belarusians and Ukrainians for gratuitous work for the benefit of Poles?
      4. His
        +1
        April 6 2012 20: 42
        These are all territories, like Poland, Finland, belonged at certain times to the Russian Empire (there was such a state who does not know)
    5. Kievan
      -7
      April 6 2012 11: 12
      Quote: domokl
      A competent person, and wrote such a scandalous article ...

      These are the facts. It’s no good to blame the truth.
      Quote: domokl
      Naturally, deportations were and should have been ... For too long, the memory was in Poland and did not correspond to communist ideals ...

      When the Chinese tanks enter your city, will you take the train to Inner Mongolia with your family? After all, your city has been too long under the rule of Moscow and does not correspond to Chinese communist ideals.
      Take a train or go to the forest with Kalash?
      Quote: domokl
      Yes, and most of these activities were carried out by local authorities ...

      Yeah, district officers and janitors relocated 1 million 200 people to Siberia and Moscow, of course, nothing to do with it.
      1. Charon
        +3
        April 6 2012 11: 35
        Quote: Kievite
        When Chinese tanks enter your city


        Many, many ukry rallied around this great idea. It seems that a considerable part of them, waking up in the morning, first runs to find out how the Chinese tanks are? Got it or is there a couple more transitions left?
        No, Kievite, I do not forbid you to dream. I’m just ridiculous that you connect your happy future with this.
        1. Kievan
          -1
          April 6 2012 11: 44
          Quote: Charon
          Many, many ukry rallied around this great idea. It seems that a considerable part of them, waking up in the morning, first runs to find out how the Chinese tanks are? Got it or is there a couple more transitions left?
          No, Kievite, I do not forbid you to dream. I’m just ridiculous that you connect your happy future with this.

          No, you're wrong. Chinese tanks are here for an analogy, so that a Russian sees the situation through the eyes of a Ukrainian. Unfortunately, you either could not understand it or did not want to.

          PS
          Quote: Charon
          Many, many ukry
          And do not write these insults, do not demonstrate your cultural level. Moreover, racial insults are prohibited here.
          1. Charon
            +5
            April 6 2012 12: 02
            First of all, I’m right. Among those with whom I spoke on the Internet and who are waiting any day for Chinese tanks near Moscow, you are somewhere in the second hundred. This is not an analogy, it is for many a specific life program. Here you are not at all original. And since such a thought in general occurred to you, this is all the more not an analogy. Otherwise, you would say about German tanks near Moscow.

            Secondly, I am not a Negro. Racial insults have nothing to do with it. And as for Ukraine, the ancestor of Cro-Magnon, I consider him to be the same fictional character as the Hobbit and Orc.
            In my understanding, Ukr is a diagnosis.
            But the Ukrainian is the bearer of the same haplotype with the Russian.
            Who you are, Ukr or Ukrainian, decide for yourself. And then decide whether I personally offended you or not.
            1. Kievan
              -1
              April 6 2012 13: 59
              Quote: Charon
              First i'm right( laughing ) Among those with whom I spoke on the Internet and who are waiting any day for Chinese tanks near Moscow, you are somewhere in the second hundred
              I do not expect Chinese tanks all the more, this is the worst of all the options available to China. Write this to those with whom you are communicating, and here I am.

              Quote: Charon
              Here you are not at all original. And since such a thought in general occurred to you, this is all the more not an analogy. Otherwise, you would say about German tanks near Moscow.

              Germany is not suitable for comparison. It turned out to be weaker than the USSR and theoretically it would have no chance of winning it. For Ukrainians in the 39-45 USSR, this is how it is now for the Russian Federation - China, minus nuclear weapons. In the event of an armed conflict without the use of nuclear weapons, the Russian Federation has no chance. The guerrilla war will not produce anything either - the Chinese in this sense will be even tougher than the USSR Therefore, they officially changed the concept of the use of nuclear weapons in the Russian Federation.
              So the comparison of China is the closest available.
              Quote: Charon
              Secondly, I am not a Negro. Racial insults have nothing to do with it. And as for Ukraine, the ancestor of Cro-Magnon, I consider him to be the same fictional character as the Hobbit and Orc.
              In my understanding, Ukr is a diagnosis.
              But the Ukrainian is the bearer of the same haplotype with the Russian.
              Who you are, Ukr or Ukrainian, decide for yourself. And then decide whether I personally offended you or not.

              Your position is not original - you insult everyone and hang a label in this case on a national basis. And in this case, not only me, but also my people. And it doesn’t matter what meaning you put the derogatory name of the people. By your logic, I can call you a female genital organ and you don’t be offended, because it’s in my understanding ... blah blah blah. So what? laughing
              1. Charon
                +2
                April 6 2012 14: 38
                I was not the first to write about Chinese tanks. No need to go into refusal now. Everything is documented. Moreover, it is written not even "if", but "when"
                Quote: Kievite
                When Chinese tanks enter your city


                In such cases, it is customary to say: "Freudian slip."

                Quote: Kievite
                Germany is not suitable for comparison. It turned out to be weaker than the USSR and theoretically it would have no chance of winning it.


                Strongly said. But I think that Germany had real chances to win.

                Quote: Kievite
                all with whom you disagree you insult and hang a label in this case on a national basis.


                There are alternative opinions that can be argued with. But I am not inclined to consider the routes of movement of Chinese tanks.
                Judging by your reaction, the assumption of our common Ukrainian-Russian haplotype was immediately rejected, but the mention of the Ukre-builder of the Egyptian pyramids touched in earnest. So hurt that even arose associations with the female genital organ.
                Sorry, but you positioned yourself that way. I can only regret it because I would prefer a constructive dialogue. But it did not work out. It didn’t work out with you.
                1. ISO
                  ISO
                  -1
                  April 6 2012 21: 55
                  "I was not the first to write about Chinese tanks. No need to go into refusal now. Everything is documented. Moreover, it is written not even" if ", but" when "
                  Quote: Kievite
                  When Chinese tanks enter your city "

                  Che, Charon, do you burst your keys here on duty?
                  1. Charon
                    +1
                    April 6 2012 22: 27
                    Quote: ISO
                    Che, Charon, do you burst your keys here on duty?


                    This is a very common polemic. When there is no way to refute, they accuse of high-quality performance of official duties.
                2. Kievan
                  0
                  April 6 2012 23: 10
                  Quote: Charon
                  I can only regret it because I would prefer a constructive dialogue. But it did not work out. It didn’t work out with you.

                  Quote: Charon
                  Many, many ukry rallied around this great idea

                  Well, just a circus. For me, the constructive dialogue ended on the name of my people in a derogatory manner. I think if I called Russian something like I’m sure I would hurt you. And I'm sure you understand this very well. So now you don’t need to build a naive and innocent girl out of yourself here. And to write a similar heresy in the form of an epistolary crime against common sense:
                  Quote: Charon
                  Judging by your reaction, the assumption of our common Ukrainian-Russian haplotype was immediately rejected, but the mention of the Ukre-builder of the Egyptian pyramids touched in earnest. So hurt that even arose associations with the female genital organ.

                  When you read your excuses like this, this very association comes to mind. Would write - "excuse me" and would not divorce this "War and Peace".

                  Quote: AsceticX
                  otya you can not search for anything but the falsifications of the REAL DOCUMENTS I posted from the archives you will not find. Is it enough to deceive yourself and others, or do you all consider all naive simpletons? All your fabrications will be beaten with REAL FACTS.

                  No, in the Katyn case, you consider as simpletons the entire top leadership of the USSR / RF.
                  Regarding the number of deportees from Western Ukraine.
                  Do you think according to documents available to you that there were about 320 thousand people. not 1200 thousand as in this article.
                  For example, Professor Jan Gross from the United States of America indicates the number of 1 million 250 thousand deportees,

                  According to the statements of Moscow historians Valentina Parsadanova and Nikolai Bugai, this figure is already equal to 1 million 173 thousand deportees.

                  Polish scientist Andrzej Szczesniak conducts a more detailed study, stopping at each separate stage of deportation. So, the victims of the first period were 220 thousands of people. The second period already covered 320 thousand, the third - 220 thousand and, finally, the fourth - about 300 thousand civilians. Moreover, as the researcher notes, among the deportees were not only skilled workers, wealthy peasants, railway workers and intellectuals, but also members of their families, including children.

                  I have not read these works. Do you think that in these works lies and provocation. Good.
                  The total population in the then Western Ukraine - 8 million. Is it a lot or a little for such a population ?. I’m sure if the USSR attached something of its kind to the Pskov Region. no one had to be deported. And to shoot thousands more. For me personally, it’s not the numbers (although their order is of course important), but the fact of the occupation itself, with all the subsequent events set forth in the article.
                  1. Charon
                    +1
                    April 7 2012 11: 03
                    Quote: Kievite
                    For me, the constructive dialogue ended on the derogatory name of my people


                    Specially in a post, he separated Ukrainians, as fraternal people, from Ukrov bred in propaganda tubes. I distinguish them well. I suggested that you choose an accessory. You have clearly chosen the second option.
                    And before Ukr, for calling him by name and taking him to clean water, to justify himself and, all the more, I do not intend to apologize.
                    And even more so I do not expect an apology for the Chinese tanks in Russia.
                  2. public
                    +1
                    April 7 2012 11: 20
                    Well, you are a storyteller about 8 million. at that time in the Ukrainian SSR there were 32 million. according to other sources, all the regions of western Belarus, Ukraine, Bukovina were added, and then it was 8 million. to the account of information stored in the storages of the KGB of the Ukrainian SSR and transferred to the SBU of Ukraine. It has long been known that this structure works to promote the Galicians under the leadership of the US CIA. you yourself what a Kievite? probably one of those who recently arrived in Kiev from Lviv? In general, in Kiev, the majority have always lived Russians. and even the Galicians themselves consider the remaining Ukrainians to be un-Ukrainians. and the rest of Ukraine considers them anyone (Poles, Bendera), but not as Ukrainians.
                    1. Kievan
                      0
                      April 7 2012 13: 33
                      Quote: bublic
                      Well, you are a storyteller about 8 million. at that time in the Ukrainian SSR there were 32 million.

                      We are discussing Western Ukraine and 8 million is about it. I’m sure that you already knew that ...
                      Quote: bublic
                      to the account of information stored in the storages of the KGB of the Ukrainian SSR and transferred to the SBU of Ukraine. It has long been known that this structure works to promote the Galicians under the leadership of the US CIA.

                      Do not believe the archives of Ukraine is controlled by a worker - a communist, who otoroy hates Ukrainians as a nation. You did not surprise me - if that does not fit into the picture of the world instilled in you, then this is a CIA conspiracy.
                      Quote: bublic
                      you yourself what a Kievite? probably one of those who recently arrived in Kiev from Lviv?

                      These are all again stereotypes.
                      Quote: bublic
                      in general, in Kiev, most Russians have always lived

                      Not Russian, but Russian-speaking. The difference you understand is huge.
                      Quote: bublic
                      and even the Galicians themselves consider the remaining Ukrainians to be un-Ukrainians. and the rest of Ukraine considers them anyone (Poles, Bendera), but not as Ukrainians.

                      Another stereotype is like drunk bears with balayks on the streets of Russian cities.


                      Quote: Dobrokhod Sergey
                      Ukry. This term was introduced by your president Yushchenko, but you are not offended by it.
                      http://nationalism.org/pioneer/HISTORY/konotop.htm


                      In your link, not a word about the relationship of this term with Yushchenko. So you are a liar and a provocateur. And this term is mentioned on some sort of Sevastopol site ...
                      1. public
                        0
                        April 7 2012 18: 48
                        No, dear Russians. read the great Ukrainian writer Bulgakov. your leadership ranked him as a great Ukrainian.
                        at the expense of Galicians and Ukrainians. You tell me about stereotypes. I write what I know from life. you are not the only one from Kiev here from Ukraine. in Russia, every 5 comes from Ukraine.
                        about 8 million. lies. Look for information on Wikipedia.
                        something you do not question my other messages.
                      2. Kievan
                        -1
                        April 8 2012 01: 10
                        Quote: bublic
                        No, dear Russians. read the great Ukrainian writer Bulgakov. your leadership ranked him as a great Ukrainian.

                        Reread again the White Guard (not the series), it is well described there as the people of Kiev met Petliura. Families of white officers, as you know, even then were not the majority, what can we say about today's times ...
                        Quote: bublic
                        at the expense of Galicians and Ukrainians. You tell me about stereotypes. I write what I know from life. you are not the only one from Kiev here from Ukraine. in Russia, every 5 comes from Ukraine.

                        and you will live in Kiev and then you will speak.
                        Quote: bublic
                        probably one of those who recently arrived in Kiev from Lviv?

                        Kiev citizen in 3-4 generations (there are different interpretations). I have no family relationship to Galicia. Is that a cousin married a girl with Exactly, but something like that.
                        Quote: bublic
                        about 8 million. lies. Look for information on Wikipedia.

                        Well, what do you think was the population in Western Ukraine in 39?
                        Quote: bublic
                        something you do not question my other messages.

                        I don’t understand what you mean.
                  3. +2
                    April 7 2012 11: 40
                    Quote: Kievite
                    For me, the constructive dialogue ended on the name of my people in a derogatory manner.

                    Ukry. This term was introduced by your president Yushchenko, but you are not offended by it.

                    http://nationalism.org/pioneer/HISTORY/konotop.htm
          2. Igor
            -1
            April 6 2012 12: 22
            Quote: Kievite
            When Chinese tanks enter your city


            Oh, somewhere I already heard it, oh yes I remembered it! On the Nezalezhnosti Square in 2004, only the tanks there were Russian, not Chinese.



            Quote: Kievite
            Russian saw the situation through the eyes of a Ukrainian.


            What other Ukrainians? Austro-Hungarians live in the banderstates.
            1. Num lock U.A.
              -2
              April 6 2012 12: 28
              at least sometimes you need to think what you write
              1. Igor
                +4
                April 6 2012 12: 40
                Quote: Num Lock UA
                at least sometimes you need to think what you write


                I don’t think, I know !!! It’s only in Ukraine that they think so that they thought of the most ancient nation and other fuini.
                1. Num lock U.A.
                  -4
                  April 6 2012 12: 50
                  well, you know ... -1 again
                  1. Igor
                    +2
                    April 6 2012 13: 18
                    Go in peace my brother, I forgive you. love
                    1. Num lock U.A.
                      -1
                      April 6 2012 17: 34
                      but this is in vain
      2. +5
        April 6 2012 14: 04
        Quote: Kievite
        Yeah, district officers and janitors relocated 1 million 200 people to Siberia and Moscow, of course, nothing to do with it.


        By the end of 1945, there were 967 families, or 085 people, in the special settlement. Of these, half of the inhabitants of Western Ukraine who were deported in 2? You rave facts and documents in the studio!
        My webpage
    6. oiuy
      -7
      April 6 2012 12: 10
      Wow, what an interesting and truthful article from Mr. Boval, thank you, I did not expect this from you good EVERYTHING ON THE SITE CAN BE WRITING ADEQUACY AND THE TRUTH ... changes to the face, although I would have written more seriously, but we must protect the psyche of local users of their seseseria, they quickly fall into hysteria and begin to fantasize lol keep it up, wait, with your new historical opuses on interesting topics
      1. +2
        April 6 2012 12: 20
        Does this "truth" fully coincide with the instructions of the State Department?
        1. Kievan
          -5
          April 6 2012 13: 22
          Quote: Dobrokhod Sergey
          Does this "truth" fully coincide with the instructions of the State Department?

          No, this is really based on the archives of the KGB of the Ukrainian SSR.
          1. +1
            April 6 2012 13: 31
            "No, this is true based on the archives of the KGB of the Ukrainian SSR"

            Usually, if they write such an article with a claim to historical truth, then they give a link to an official document as confirmation that this was so, and not as the author of the article interprets.
            Where is it?
            1. Kievan
              -1
              April 6 2012 14: 09
              According to the claims of Moscow historians Valentina Parsadanova and Nikolai Bugay, this figure is already 1 million 173 thousands of deported. In their studies, they used the documentation that is stored in the State Archives of Russia.

              To avoid copyright infringement, post a hyperlink to the original article: http://topwar.ru/13174-galichina-i-sovetskaya-vlast-v-1939-1941-godah-put-na-gol
              gofu.html # comment-id-278719


              Re-read the article again, everything is there. The reference goes to the labors in the writings already on the documents. For people living in Ukraine this is not news at all, but a family history. For you, this may be a discovery ...
              1. 0
                April 6 2012 14: 21
                Quote: Kievite
                Re-read the article again, everything is there. The reference goes to the labors in the writings already on the documents. ...

                I advise you to search. If you find, unsubscribe.
              2. Vadim555
                +1
                April 6 2012 14: 30
                Quote: Kievite
                According to the statements of Moscow historians Valentina Parsadanova


                Valentina Parsadanova

                Katyn syndrome in Soviet-Polish and Russian-Polish relations
                Genres: History

                The book analyzes the historical realities that led to the Katyn atrocity - the liquidation of the Polish state and its army as one of the consequences of the signing of the Soviet-German treaties of 1939. The study focuses on the difficult history of the Katyn case, the struggle against silence and falsification of circumstances, causes and motives of the crime, efforts to establish the falsity of the conclusion of the Burdenko commission and the entire Soviet “official version” presented in Nuremberg.

                Kasparov and Nemtsov must have acted as consultants for this lady on all the "opuses".


                Quote: Kievite
                Sending is coming to labor in labor already on documents


                Trudy-such Trudy-and all for 30 silversmiths.
                Ugh!
          2. +4
            April 6 2012 16: 56
            Quote: Kievite
            No, this is really based on the archives of the KGB of the Ukrainian SSR.


            Please enter the studio with the numbers of the dates of orders and orders, schedules, tables, numbers and facts, and not just speculation about Katyn by the same Parsadanova, I already had the honor to refute it using REAL documents from the archives of the KGB of the USSR
            Read my comment on the article Katyn tragedy: historical lessons
            There, by the way, you also circulated the outright FALSE of rabid Russophobes and ardent haters of Russia
            My webpage

            Although you can’t look for anything but the falsifications of the REAL DOCUMENTS I posted from the archives you will not find. Is it enough to deceive yourself and others, or do you all consider all naive simpletons? All your fabrications will be beaten with REAL FACTS.
        2. ISO
          ISO
          +1
          April 6 2012 21: 58
          this is not the work of Goebbels and his predecessors
      2. Vadim555
        +1
        April 6 2012 12: 34
        Quote: oiuy
        keep it up, wait, with your new historical opus on interesting topics


        Yes similar "opuses" here sometimes laid out.
        1. +1
          April 6 2012 12: 55
          As soon as these ... sick patriots ... of great Ukria appear
          further you can leave the topic.
          I’m sorry for my own brains ... to read this nonsense.
  2. +4
    April 6 2012 08: 54
    This is our story and time was not easy, the German war machine was approaching the border, the war with Poland, which brought a lot of grief - the enemy! Kinks are certainly on the face, but slivers from the forest are inevitable!
    The author wrote the article only in a punitive and repressive style, and one should not forget about good deeds - industry, general education, improving the standard of living for the common people, military and strategic defense goals, etc.
    1. +2
      April 6 2012 09: 19
      This is exactly what I had in mind in my comment ... History is events and facts, not their interpretation ... Here is a clearly expressed desire to drive into the reader’s head that the best people of the country have been deported and destroyed ...
      1. -4
        April 6 2012 09: 49
        Mr. domokl, it was the best part of the population who was deported and destroyed (I make this statement without a relatively territorial affiliation), since mediocrity does not pose any threat to the totalitarian regime, which was the Stalinist regime. And these are facts, not an interpretation.
        1. +1
          April 6 2012 11: 35
          Quote: Jackyun
          the best part of the population was deported and destroyed


          And who was it?
          Here the Germans in Lviv really handed over the best (scientific intelligentsia), but it was not Stalin who handed over them.
  3. Ruslan
    +1
    April 6 2012 09: 14
    The main terror was in the period of 10 days after the outbreak of World War II. All political prisoners and suspects in the holds and pre-trial detention centers - including women and children - were shot during the retreat. It’s better not to raise this issue in general - for half a century of Soviet power, reconciliation has occurred here and the Russians and Ukrainians get along normally. Nationalism here is fake - they sang, they danced, the Communists spit and parted. If the authorities had tamed people like Tyagnybok, then in general there wouldn’t be any problems.
    1. +1
      April 6 2012 09: 40
      Quote: Ruslan
      The main terror was in the period of 10 days after the outbreak of World War II. All political prisoners and suspects in holds and pre-trial detention centers - including women and children - were shot during the retreat


      "The more improbable the lie, the easier it will be believed" - Dr. Goebbels.
      1. Ruslan
        0
        April 6 2012 15: 02
        Quote: Dobrokhod Sergey
        "The more improbable the lie, the easier it will be believed" - Dr. Goebbels.

        And you come here and tell the old people here, from the Lvov pre-trial detention center, corpses were carted out and piled in boulders on Gorodotskaya Street. In this area people came to recognize their relatives. Time was like that

        who knows the Ukrainian language and is interested in this topic read this book
        http://www.share.net.ua/forum/index.php?showtopic=4042
        the book is called SHOA at Lviv Here is one of the comments on this book
        Having read the whole book, and visually, you must have read it for a long time. A book about the life of Lviv for the hour of Polish, Russian and Nimetsky payoffs. The book is not є historical, the author has presented the podia like this, like it’s forgotten in the middle of the hour, writing in a different style, but also giving facts. Tvir is read on one evil. The place is tight Ale for kіlka, the party is repairing the rosum, which isn’t the only way to sleep, having not read the rest of the party. I recommend all Ukrainian and non-Ukrainian. Skoda scho schto mute to English and English. Why doesn’t this book publish? It also shows the tragedy of the Jews and how they worked in the NKVD and what they did, Ukrainian nationalists also do not like her there, their cooperation with the Germans is also shown - this book is not needed by anybody from the authorities - current people
        1. +1
          April 6 2012 15: 25
          No need for these cheap tricks - take come, etc. (by the way, the word "come" is not in Russian)

          But if you don’t know Ukrainian language either, then I’ll translate it for you: "A book about life in Lviv during the Polish, Russian and German occupations. The book is not HISTORICAL, the author writes how he REMEMBERED .......
          You apparently still fell asleep when you read and you all dreamed about this. And the author in general was in a frenzy.
          -------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------


          ----------------------------
          And here is the truth:
          "Of the last five trains with exiles sent on the eve of the war, the fate of one is not known, and three were stopped after the German bombing and the convoy dismissed all those in the carriages."

          http://lib.rus.ec/b/192731/read
          1. Ruslan
            +2
            April 6 2012 16: 02
            Quote: Dobrokhod Sergey
            No need for these cheap tricks - take come, etc. (by the way, the word "come" is not in Russian)
            In Ukrainian there will be
            Quote: Dobrokhod Sergey
            You apparently still fell asleep when you read and you all dreamed about this. And the author in general was in a frenzy.
            This is not a phrase of a person who draws conclusions without reading a line.
            Quote: Dobrokhod Sergey
            And here is the truth:
            "Of the last five trains with exiles sent on the eve of the war, the fate of one is not known, and three were stopped after the German bombing and the convoy dismissed all those in the carriages."
            And the truth is not one-sided - then everything in life would be simple. In the course of the saddle service in the Regional Archives of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, I declassified the affairs of former employees of the NKVD and the Ministry of Internal Affairs. Grif is secretly still afraid to remove agents and employees of the NKVD. Why? Yes, because here they did such a thing that the relatives of the victims in the districts can take revenge even now. You should never lie and justify what happened. The main mistake of the USSR is that it was hushed up or took a unilateral position on many issues. And when it was given to the top with publicity, it was very difficult to understand. Here in Western Ukraine the same thing happened as in Russia 1917-1923 - the civil war. For when the issues of private property, religion, etc. are abruptly resolved, this always provokes a response. I do not blame the Communists for before the 2nd World War in the border zone it was necessary to impose a regime but to say that there were no excesses, to put it mildly, also people who live here and who old people tell about these events do not suffer from amnesia. I had a case; I was in the hospital in 1989, well, and in one ward there was an old grandfather, all in orders, and of the Order of Merit in the NKVD. Nobody came to grandfather, we drank tea and one young boy of about 19 took a cup of tea, picked up cookies and said - it’s a pity for the grandfather, he even shot the commander’s grandfather and my grandfather, but the man took the tea and cookies to the old man.
            1. +1
              April 6 2012 19: 45
              Quote: Ruslan
              .... and saying - it’s a pity for his grandfather, he even NKVDist and my grandfather shot komunyaki but still a man ...

              By the way, the NKVD is a border guard, it is the troops that were the first to fight the Nazis, those who complied with the requirements of the Red Army Charter and fought in enemy territory in June 1941, those who fought with bandits from the OUN UPA.
              And it is still unknown who the grandfather shot at, which he might have shot for nothing.
              Maybe you have no border troops in Ukraine and you can do without them?
              1. Ruslan
                -2
                April 7 2012 00: 34
                Quote: Dobrokhod Sergey
                The NKVD is a border guard
                The NKVD is now the internal troops of the VV (under the Ministry of Internal Affairs) and have nothing to do with the frontier troops - learn the mat part before clever
                1. -1
                  April 7 2012 11: 50
                  Quote: Ruslan
                  The NKVD is now the internal troops of the VV (under the Ministry of Internal Affairs) and have nothing to do with the frontier troops - learn the mat part before clever


                  No need to get out. If it was about today's time, I would write something completely different. It was about the old grandfather, the former military of the NKVD troops. So don't be smart.
                  1. Ruslan
                    -1
                    April 7 2012 17: 39
                    Quote: Dobrokhod Sergey
                    No need to get out. If it was about today's time, I would write something completely different. It was about the old grandfather, the former military of the NKVD troops. So don't be smart.
                    Why did you take him to be a border guard? The frontier guards were ground during the first days of the war, only a few survived. The NKVD also performed the current role of explosives and did not guard the border.
                    1. 0
                      April 7 2012 22: 55
                      Quote: Ruslan
                      Why did you take him to be a border guard? The frontier guards were ground during the first days of the war, only a few survived. The NKVD also performed the current role of explosives and did not guard the border.

                      Have you looked into his personal file?
                      By the way, the NKVD also had sabotage units, and not just convoy units.
  4. +11
    April 6 2012 09: 29
    With the reunification of Western Ukraine, Western Belarus and Northern Bukovina and the entry of Latvia, Lithuania and Estonia into the USSR, the former political elite, backed by German intelligence, did not intend to give up power. Previously nationalist groups were joined by Polish armed forces. In the course of nationalization and agrarian reform in the annexed territories, nationalist groups tried to frustrate these events through terror and intimidation. The rampant gangsterism took such proportions that on the eve of the Great Patriotic War, the Soviet authorities evicted from the territories of Western Ukraine, Western Belarus and the Baltic states active activists of gangs and the nationalist underground, people who were anti-Soviet, from among representatives of the possessing classes of the population.
    In May-June 1941, 11 thousand people were evicted from Western Ukraine, about 21 thousand were evicted from Western Belarus. About 13 thousand people from Lithuania were sent to exile and 4,6 thousand - to camps, from Latvia - 10 and 5,5 thousand, respectively, from Estonia - 6 and 3,6 thousand.
    For the entire period of the struggle (1940–1956) against the nationalist insurgent movement in the Baltic states and the territories of the attached western regions of Ukraine, the internal troops of the NKVD of the USSR and parts of the Red Army irretrievably lost 6223 people. (including 5635 people killed, 588 people missing) and 8612 people. wounded [3] (Moreover, this is data without Belarus and without loss of organs of the NKVD-MVD-NKGB-MGB.)
    The number of armed demonstrations by the OUN members in late 1939 and early 1941 was relatively small. In the Volyn region in 1940, 55 "gang manifestations" were registered, while 5 police officers and 11 people from the Soviet-party asset were killed and wounded. 5 groups were liquidated with 26 participants and 12 individual members of the OUN. As of May 29, 1940, there were 4 political gangs in the Lviv region (30 in number) and 4 criminal and political gangs (27), in the Rivne region there were no political gangs (only criminal), in Tarnopol 3 criminal and political gangs (in number 10 people). From April to December 1940, 17 armed groups were liquidated in the Stanislavsk Region, of which 5 were political (Ounov) and 12 were criminal. During this period, nationalists committed 8 terrorist acts against a Soviet asset from the local population. Head of the NKVD in the Stanislav region A.N. Mikhailov reported: “There are no active armed gangs in the region.”
    However, before the start of the war, the OUN activists became more active. In April 1941, 47 terrorist acts were registered, killed: 8 chairmen of village councils, 7 chairmen of the collective farm board, 3 Komsomol workers, 5 workers of the district Soviet apparatus, 1 teacher, 1 director of the school and 16 collective farmers-activists (USSR State Security Agencies in Velikaya Veliky World War II .-- T. 1. - Book 2. - M., 1995. - S. 194). In May, 58 terrorist acts were taken into account, as a result of which 57 people were killed and 27 injured: 10 village chairmen and secretaries, 30 collective farm and kolkhoz activist chairmen, 2 party and Komsomol workers, 9 school and club workers, and Soviet workers 7, police officers - 4, military personnel - 2, family members of a rural asset - 16 (Ibid. - P. 240). As of May 1, 1941, according to the GSS of the NKVD USSR GUM, in the republic there were only 22 gangs with 105 participants, as of June 1, 61 with 307 participants, as of June 15, 74 and 346 participants. To combat them, the NKVD-NKGB bodies suggested using a carrot and stick policy. On the one hand, P. Ya. Meshik asked to repress the families of illegal immigrants, to confiscate property, to evict the families of the arrested Ounites, as well as kulaks to remote places of the USSR
    On the other hand, the directive of the UNKVD and UNKGB of the Ukrainian SSR in the Rivne region of April 28, 1941, prescribed “henceforth to arrest only the senior staff and assets of the OUN members. Do not arrest the grassroots because they are mostly poor ”and promises were made not to prosecute those who had confessed and voluntarily surrendered their weapons.
    On May 14, 1941, Decree of the Central Committee of the All-Union Communist Party of Bolsheviks and the Council of People's Commissars of the USSR No. 1299-526ss “On the seizure of counterrevolutionary organizations in the western regions of the Ukrainian SSR” was adopted, according to which family members - members of Ukrainian and Polish nationalist organizations whose heads moved to an illegal position or were sentenced to capital punishment, were subject to arrest and sent to exile in a remote region of the USSR for a period of 20 years with confiscation of property. The operation was completed on May 22. People's Commissar of State Security of the USSR V.N. Merkulov was reported by I.V. Stalin and V.M. Molotov, that in some cases armed resistance was rendered, during which 7 illegal immigrants were killed and 5 injured; in total, 3073 families of 11329 people were deported in seven regions of Western Ukraine (doc. No. 12). These data are slightly different from those calculated by A.E. Guryanov, according to the reports and the final reference of the Department of Railway and Water Transportation of the NKVD of the USSR, the number of exiled settlers from the western regions of Ukraine in 11093 people, which should be recognized as the most reliable (see Guryanov A.E. The scale of deportation of the population deep into the USSR in May-June 1941 / / Historical collections of Memorial. - Issue 1. Repressions against Poles and Polish citizens. - M., 1997. - P. 137-175).

    List of secret documents of the NKVD on this issue
    1. Report of the People's Commissar of State Security of the USSR P.Ya. Meshik Secretary of the Central Committee of the Communist Party (b) of Ukraine N.S. Khrushchev with proposals to eliminate the OUN base in the Western regions of Ukraine
    2. From the directive of the Directorates of the NKVD and the NKGB of the Ukrainian SSR in the Rivne region
    No. 19/6257 on measures to eliminate the OUN underground
    in the region
    3. Resolution of the Central Committee of the All-Union Communist Party of Bolsheviks and the Council of People's Commissars of the USSR No. 1299-526ss “On Withdrawal
    counter-revolutionary organizations in the western regions of the Ukrainian SSR "
    May 14, 1941 Owls. secretly
    Special folder
    In connection with the increased activity of the counter-revolutionary "organizations of Ukrainian nationalists (OUN)" in the western regions of the Ukrainian SSR, expressed in armed raids by the OUN members on village councils, collective farms, and the murders of rural activists, in order to decisively stop the criminal activities of the OUN members violating the peaceful labor of collective farmers in the western regions of the Ukrainian SSR, the Central The Committee of the CPSU (b) and the Council of People's Commissars of the USSR Union decide:
    1. To oblige the bodies of the NKGB and NKVD of Ukraine to continue the withdrawal of participants in the counter-revolutionary OUN organizations.
    2. Arrest and send to exile in a remote area of ​​the Soviet Union for a period of 20 years with confiscation of property:
    a) family members of participants in the counter-revolutionary Ukrainian and Polish nationalist organizations, whose heads have moved to an illegal position and are hiding from the authorities;
    b) family members of participants of the indicated counter-revolutionary nationalist organizations, whose heads are sentenced to VMN.
    3. The bodies of the NKGB and the NKVD to strengthen intelligence and operational work, ensuring the good organization and conduct of operational activities.
    The NKGB and the NKVD of Ukraine send operatives to help their local authorities in the western regions to quickly identify the harassment and seizure of bandit groups.
    4. The troops of the NKVD of Ukraine shall be housed in separate units in the regions most affected by banditry in the western regions of the Ukrainian SSR for their use in the fight against bandit groups.
    5. The Central Committee of the CP (b) of Ukraine and the Council of People's Commissars of Ukraine to strengthen the party-Soviet cadres of the regions of the western regions of the Ukrainian SSR, struck by banditry.
    6. With all severity, apply the order of the NKVD of the USSR on the prohibition, without special permission, storage and carrying of firearms, by arresting and prosecuting persons who will find weapons without permission.
    7. To organize the fight against bandit groups in the western regions of Ukraine, on the basis of this Decree, send Comrade Deputy NKGB of the USSR Comrade Serova
    8. To instruct the NKVD and the NKGB of the USSR and the Secretary of the Central Committee of Belarus, Comrade Ponomarenko, to discuss the implementation of similar measures in western Belarus. [20]
    Secretary of the Central Committee of the CPSU (B.) And Chairman of the Council of People's Commissars of the USSR I. Stalin
    GARF, F. R-5446, Op. 1c, D. 534, L. 104–105, original. Published: History of the Stalinist Gulag. Late 1920s - first half of the 1950s: Collection of documents in 7 volumes. - T. 1. Mass repressions in the USSR. - M., 2004 .-- S. 393.
    My webpage

    From the memorandum of the NKGB of the USSR to the Central Committee of the All-Union Communist Party of Bolsheviks and the Council of People's Commissars of the USSR on the eviction from the western regions of Ukraine of families of repressed or illegal members of nationalist organizations

    I report to you that the operation to evict the families of repressed or illegal members of counter-revolutionary organizations in the western regions of the Ukrainian SSR, according to the data of 22 hours on May 22, is completely completed.
    In total, 3110 families, or 11476 people, were scheduled for seizure in the western regions of the Ukrainian SSR. 3073 families, or 11329 people, were seized and loaded into the cars.
    1. +2
      April 6 2012 11: 37
      Deployed. Big +.
  5. Igor
    0
    April 6 2012 09: 31
    Eat pineapples, grouse chew! Your last day is coming, RAGUL!
  6. -2
    April 6 2012 09: 38
    Much has been written, but without an analysis of that situation and without providing factual material. All articles are designed for impressionable housewives and people who use such articles to agitate people.
  7. +6
    April 6 2012 09: 46
    During the occupation of the territory of the Soviet Union by German troops in 1941-1944. a guerrilla movement was deployed there, in which about 1255200 people participated, of which:
    in Belarus - 440000 people (87 of them became Heroes of the Soviet Union and 120000 were awarded orders and medals);
    in Ukraine - over 500000 people (95 people were awarded the title of Hero of the Soviet Union and 185000 people were awarded orders and medals);
    in Latvia - over 12000 people (of which 3 people received the title of Hero of the Soviet Union and 1100 people were awarded orders and medals);
    in Lithuania - over 10000 people (including 7 Heroes of the Soviet Union and 1800 awarded orders and medals);
    in Estonia - about 7000 people (2 Heroes of the Soviet Union and 500 awarded with orders and medals);
    in Moldova - over 1200 people (2 Heroes of the Soviet Union and “many partisans awarded with orders and medals”);
    in the RSFSR - more than 250000 people of partisans and 35 underground workers (000 Heroes of the Soviet Union and about 57 people were awarded orders and medals).

    On the other hand, citizens of the Soviet Union mobilized or voluntarily served in the Wehrmacht and SS troops, where they fought with arms in their arms against units of the Red Army, participated in the struggle against partisans, and performed police functions. A.V. Okorokov in his monograph cites such data on anti-Soviet military formations during the Second World War: as of January 24, 1945, the German Ministry for Occupied Eastern Regions included:
    Lithuanian armed forces - 36800 people;
    armed Latvian forces - 104000 people;
    Estonian armed forces - 10000;
    reservists from Turks and Tatars from Idel-Ural (including 20000 prisoners of war) - about 45 people;
    SS Army Group "Crimea" - 10000 people;
    the formation of the Cossacks - 70000 people;
    armed Armenian formations - 7000 people;
    armed Azerbaijani formations - 31000 people;
    Kalmyk horse troops - 5000 people;
    armed North Caucasian troops - 7000 people;
    Russian armed groups - 10000 people;
    Belarusian armed forces - 19000 people;
    Ukrainian armed forces - 75000 people;
    the total number of eastern volunteers in the army, SS, aviation and police is 373800;
    Russian liberation army A.A. Vlasova (ROA) - 300000 people.
    The total number of eastern volunteers is 748000.
    In addition, about 330000 inhabitants of Ukraine, Belarus and the Baltic states served at the indicated time in the “noise” battalions, local police and self-defense units subordinate to the chiefs of the SS and the police of the Reich Commissariat. [
    April 19, 1943 M.I. Kalinin signed the closed Decree of the Presidium of the Supreme Soviet of the USSR on punitive measures for Nazi villains guilty of murders and tortures of the Soviet civilian population and captured Red Army soldiers, for spies, traitors from among Soviet citizens and for their accomplices, who established that convicted of killing and torturing civilians and captured Red Army soldiers, as well as spies and traitors to the motherland from among Soviet citizens, are punished by death by hanging. Aides from the local population, convicted of assisting atrocities in the commission of massacres and violence against the civilian population and captured Red Army soldiers, are punished with exile in hard labor for a term of 15 to 20 years. The consideration of cases was entrusted to the military field courts formed by the divisions of the army. The enforcement of the sentences of the military courts - the death row of those sentenced - was ordered to be carried out publicly, with the people, and the bodies of the hanged people should be left on the gallows for several days so that everyone knows how to punish and what retribution will befall anyone who commits violence and massacre of civilians and who betray their homeland
    June 11, 1943 L.P. Beria signed the order of the NKVD of the USSR No. 00968 on the organization of hard labor departments at the labor camps of the NKVD: in Vorkuta camp for 10000 people, in Norilsk camp for 10000 people, in the North-East camp (Magadan) for 10000 people. As part of the Karlag of the NKVD, a department was organized for the disabled and sick, sentenced to hard labor. The same order approved the instruction on the procedure for keeping convicted to hard labor in the NKVD camps. Until 1943, from the time of tsarist Russia, there was no hard labor in the USSR. As of May 1, 1950, the camps of the Ministry of Internal Affairs contained 61572 people sentenced to hard labor.

    The occupation by the German troops of Ukraine, Belarus and the Baltic states allowed local nationalists to leave the underground and almost completely switch to the service of the Nazis. This was most clearly manifested in Ukraine and the Baltic states. At the same time, collaboration in Belarus was a singular phenomenon and not related to nationalism.
  8. 0
    April 6 2012 10: 05
    From the article ".. Thus, the policy of the Soviet Union in Western Ukraine did not at all contribute to the stabilization of the situation in the region."

    So, it seems like the war was going on, then it continued.
    For two (round) years, only send and you can someone, somewhere.

    Here, with each new boss, there is a whistle dance for six months. All the waste paper is shoveled, people are jumping from place to place, and some - generally "out of the gate".
    What about the whole country (7 regions) to say.

    Just sorry ..... innocent.
    And on the other hand - complete conviction - punishment ... without guilt - does not happen.
    Otherwise, fate.
  9. Fint_v
    -4
    April 6 2012 10: 39
    It was a tough time. Western Ukrainians suffered greatly from the Soviet regime.
    I have deep respect for their culture and political views. If not for them, then Ukraine would become Belarus or Russia.
    1. Charon
      0
      April 6 2012 11: 38
      Quote: Fint_v
      If not for them, then Ukraine would become Belarus or Russia.


      I completely agree with this. And certainly Ukrainian pseudo-historical nonsense would not have happened.
      1. imadroc
        -1
        April 6 2012 14: 02
        Especially for you, my friend registered, which is already a great honor for people like you. My prediction how you are going to end up. You’ll translate into google translate ... you need to be mentally developed. When you are about 70 years old, and urinary and fecal incontinence will be your normal state, your Ketai grandson will lower the taba into the toilet so that you will drown in your own temptations. When you will find your city, but remember what nasty things you wanted for other people. Best regards ....
        1. Charon
          +1
          April 6 2012 14: 43
          imadroc Today, 14:02 PM

          To whom is so bright addressed, I would say poetic philippic?
        2. BAT
          0
          April 6 2012 14: 57
          Imadrok, did you understand what you said? Maybe you speak English well enough, as for Canada, then in Russian you speak extremely illiterate. So also develop mentally.
    2. +1
      April 6 2012 11: 39
      And so what has she become? There is every chance to return back to the Poles. Have a good trip!
      1. Vadim555
        +1
        April 6 2012 11: 57
        Quote: Dobrokhod Sergey
        Welcome Sergei Today, 11:39 new 0 And so what has she become? There is every chance to return back to the Poles. Have a good trip!


        Yes, you are a sadist, my friend. wink
        1. +1
          April 6 2012 12: 24
          But the "triumph" of the Ukrov people.
  10. Vadim555
    +3
    April 6 2012 10: 55
    In September 1939, Red Army troops entered the territory of the West Ukrainian lands in order, as was reported in official documents, to prevent the occupation of these lands by the Poles.

    Just nonsense.
    And what kind of power was there on 01.09.1939/XNUMX/XNUMX?
  11. Fint_v
    +1
    April 6 2012 11: 21
    Every year I go on excursions in the western part of Ukraine. Lviv, Ternopil, Chernivtsi, Ivano-Frankivsk. Beautiful land.
    1. +4
      April 6 2012 13: 24
      Well, the land is beautiful.
      And the people, preoccupied with the great Ukria - .. preoccupied.
      Well, not everyone, after all, you have such ones as hardened horses ...
      the foam rushes, the eyes are wild -.... aaaaaaa. these are Russian - Finno-Ugric, and we are genetically pure ... you cut us, killed the best, destroyed everything, and we grazed dinosaurs ... and invented wheels. And Antonov is now the best.

      So behave .. fans behave .. in the stadiums. Then they clean the snouts to each other, in the gateways.
      Or boys in the sandbox of a kindergarten.
  12. 0
    April 6 2012 13: 19
    Well, the land is beautiful.
    And the people, preoccupied with the great Ukria - .. preoccupied.
    Well, not everyone, after all, you have such ones as hardened horses ...
    the foam rushes, the eyes are wild -.... aaaaaaa. these are Russian - Finno-Ugric, and we are genetically pure ... you cut us, killed the best, destroyed everything, and we grazed dinosaurs ... and invented wheels. And Antonov is now the best.

    So behave .. fans behave .. in the stadiums. Then they clean the snouts to each other, in the gateways.
    Or boys in the sandbox of a kindergarten.
  13. Odinplys
    +3
    April 6 2012 19: 49
    This is not to argue about ... This is contention ...
    The early unification of the Slavic Peoples ... is our Victory ...
    1. +2
      April 6 2012 21: 14
      Western propaganda has already done its dirty deed in the separation of peoples. Already even within the country there is no unity of the people.
  14. public
    +1
    April 7 2012 00: 59
    you represent the figures that this gentleman leads. What does it mean to remove 1250 thousand people? in three stages. this is approximately the current composition of the Ivano-Frankivsk region !!! http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galichina Wikipedia gives the following:
    In total, before the end of 1939, 18260 people were arrested and attracted without arrest under various articles, including criminal, 5406 Poles, 2779 Ukrainians and 1439 Jews. The first state farms and collective farms began to be created in the western regions in January 1940. The question "On the establishment of state farms in the western regions of the Ukrainian SSR" was considered in the working order at the Politburo of the Central Committee of the All-Union Communist Party of Bolsheviks on February 19, 1940. Until the fall of 1940, collective farms were created only on local initiative - without intervention “from above”, followed by “administrative pressure”. With the beginning of 1940, "the clearing of territories from an unreliable element" began - the first and largest was the eviction in February 1940 of significant groups of rural residents, mainly Poles by nationality - foresters and "besiegers" 88385 people were evicted (the vast majority of Poles by nationality). The next actions were the mass expulsions in April 1940 of prostitutes and family members of the repressed "counter-revolutionaries" (29012 people).

    By the summer of 1940, when the main mass evictions had already been carried out, the Stalinist leadership switched to a more flexible, pragmatic tactic.

    Stalin's telegram sent on July 3, 1940 to the secretary of the Lviv regional committee Grischuk (a copy to the secretaries of the Central Committee of the Communist Party of Ukraine Khrushchev and Burmistenko): "

    The Central Committee of the All-Union Communist Party of Bolsheviks got information that authorities in Lviv are excesses in relation to the Polish population, do not provide assistance to Polish refugees, hamper the Polish language, do not accept Poles for work, which is why the Poles are forced to impersonate Ukrainians and the like. Police officers behave especially wrongly. The Central Committee of the All-Union Communist Party of Bolsheviks invites you for your personal responsibility to immediately eliminate these and similar excesses and take measures to establish fraternal relations between Ukrainian and Polish workers.

    In addition, refugees from the German occupation zone — mainly Jews — who had accumulated there, moved inland from the border of the USSR. Until July 2, 1940, 83207 people were sent deep into the USSR. A significant number of Volksdeutsche were repatriated to Germany. [29]

    Until the end of 1940, in Western Ukraine (which already included Bukovina, which was joined in July 1940 and part of Bessarabia), 69517 people were arrested and arrested without arrest under various articles (of whom 15518 Poles were 15024 Ukrainians, 10924 Jews), of which slightly more than 300 were sentenced to VMN.

    By the end of 1940, the activities of the OUN (b) were significantly intensified in Galicia. Groups of members and supporters of the OUN (b), trained by the Abwehr, tried to cross the USSR border with varying effectiveness. Despite the opposition of the NKVD and the NKGB, they collected data on the deployment of troops and the location of warehouses, the place of residence of the commanders and other information of interest to the Wehrmacht.

    By the spring of 1941 (after receiving significant funding from the Abwehr for such activities [source?]) In the territory of Galicia, clashes took place between the OUN (b) detachments and the forces of the district police and the NKGB.

    The response to the activation of the OUN underground was the Decree of the Central Committee of the All-Union Communist Party of Bolsheviks and the Council of People's Commissars of the USSR # 1299-526ss of May 14, 1941 “On the seizure of counter-revolutionary organizations in the western regions of the Ukrainian SSR”. The total number of people deported from the Western regions of the Ukrainian SSR until June 1941 amounted to 11 people (including those deported according to other decrees). Until June 097, 1941 people were arrested and arrested in Western Ukraine without arrest.

    In 1940-1941, four mass deportations of Poles, Ukrainians, Belarusians, Jews, Germans, Russians, Czechs, Armenians and others from the eastern voivodships of the Polish Republic (western regions of the Ukrainian SSR and BSSR) were carried out. [30] The NKVD authorities deported about 335 Polish citizens to the northeastern regions of the European part of the RSFSR, Kazakhstan, Siberia, and the Russian Far East. [000] [31] A minimum of 32 198 people were expelled from the western regions of the Ukrainian SSR:
    February 1940 - 89 people (about 062% of Poles, 84,8% of Ukrainians, 13,8% of Jews and others) deported to the north-eastern regions of the European part of the RSFSR (Arkhangelsk region, Komi ASSR, Bashkir ASSR, and others), Siberia, and Kazakhstan;
    April 1940 - 31 people (about 332% of Poles, 70,6% of Ukrainians, 25,0% of Jews, 3,0% of Russians, Germans, and others) sent to Kazakhstan;
    June-July 1940 - 67 people (about 049% of Jews, 84,6% of Poles, 11,0% of Ukrainians, 3,3% of Germans, 0,4% of others) sent to Siberia, the Far East, [ 0,7] and in the north-eastern regions of the European part of the RSFSR (Arkhangelsk region, Vologda region, Mari ASSR and others);
    May-June 1941 - 11 people (most Ukrainians, also Poles and others) deported to Siberia and Kazakhstan.

    I believe these numbers !!! that is, roughly speaking, the NKVD more Ukrainized this area, removing some of the people of Polish nationality and bringing in Ukrainians and Rusyns (Russians)
  15. public
    +3
    April 7 2012 11: 30
    over time, all this propaganda against the USSR, talk about the atrocities of the NKVD, the shyness of the Ukrainian people with Russian darts, will soon hit Ukrainian statehood. because there are 2 sides to the coin. Shouting about the crimes of the Stalin regime, many Ukrainian politicians forget that those lands that are now part of the territory were annexed during the USSR. they were included from the Russian Federation, Romania, Czechoslovakia, Hungary, Poland during the period of a large redistribution from 1918 to 1947. so when declaring crimes, it’s worth considering that someone will present an account, referring to the statements of politicians. Romania already stutters at the expense of Bukavina and Moldova, and Turkey has the right to annex Crimea. Russia has every reason to take away the territories of Odeshchyna, Mykolayiv, Donetsk, Dnepropetrovsk, Lugansk and other regions. including Crimea. so cheers patriots of Ukraine shut up and do not howl about the Stalin regime, which has done so much for you. even carried out ethnic cleansing in Galicia removing the hated Poles and Jews there.
    1. +2
      April 7 2012 12: 00
      It is useless to call people who do not possess it to the mind. They do not bite them until the roasted rooster, they do not understand that by lighting this bonfire they set fire to the wick in their ass.
  16. 0
    April 7 2012 20: 12
    It’s a pity, they didn’t take everyone out, it’s necessary to burn this Bandera racket with a hot iron !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    1. 11Goor11
      +1
      26 May 2012 02: 57
      No one needs to be burned out, just in times of exacerbation to catch more riot police and prohibit bad propaganda, because all this hatred does not appear on its own, without denigrating information.

      The apotheosis of such hatred exists in the form of blood feud.
      People from nearby family clans are obliged (!) To take turns killing the avenger avenger, because two hundred years ago someone started to do this. Question: Is there stupidity - monstrous?

      In all honesty, do any of us hate the Germans (that's how all the people are!), For what "they" did in World War II?
      The bulk of those now called Germans did not do this.

      Time and daily work for the common and personal benefit are treated for pain in the soul.
      Be vigilant, comrade, friend, brother — sucking on old bloodied bones leads to mutual hatred. And (!) There is SOMEONE who wants to use this hatred for selfish purposes - to get a little more influence, money in exchange for our lives.