Most athletes of the Russian Federation expressed a desire to participate in the Olympics under the "white flag"

The head of the commission of athletes of the Olympic Committee of Russia, Sophia the Great, today announced that the majority of Russian athletes have expressed a desire to participate in the Olympic Games-2018, despite the prohibition of the IOC to use the flag and anthem of Russia.

Recall that according to the adopted IOC regulations, Russians will be able to speak under the flag of the International Olympic Committee and with the status of “athlete from Russia”. There will be no team medal standings for the Russians, as the Games will not feature a single Russian national team at the Games in Pyeongchang.

From the statement of Sophia the Great:

We talked with all athletes from all winter sports. Most Russian athletes want to participate in the Olympics, the athletes commission supported them. I ask the Russian public to treat with respect and understanding the decision.

Also Sophia the Great (famous fencing athlete) said that the Russian athletes had sent a letter to the head of the IOC Thomas Bach to reconsider the decision regarding the ban on the flag and anthem of Russia in Pyeongchang.

Interfax quotes the words of the athlete:

In an appeal to Bach and the IOC about the lifelong disqualification of our athletes, we ask to reconsider the decisions of the Oswald commission, as some athletes have already been punished and served disqualifications and have the opportunity to participate in the ROI according to all IOC rules. Athletes from other countries have such an opportunity. We ask the IOC to be impartial when admitting to the Olympics. We do not want the situation to arise when only the fifth and sixth numbers of the national team are invited to the Games, but there are no leaders.

The data of sociological polls show that the majority of Russians have a negative attitude towards the participation of Russian athletes under neutral symbolism in South Korea.

Comments

[Sail]

Just do not rush to stigmatize them, traitors, they say ... Remember when the West did not go to Moscow, many of their athletes arrived, the same Sebastian Coe took gold, and no one in England called him a traitor ... We will be more adequate, they it’s once in a lifetime, all my life is laid on it, except for my gyms, then they are completely smelling and haven’t seen anything, not fights in asphalt pieces at the disco, not the first kisses with the girl after that, nor the dawn meeting on the river with her ... One Galimov your sport !!! Let them go, and let them tear them all there !!!

[Andrey Yuryevich]

Most athletes of the Russian Federation expressed a desire to participate in the Olympic Games 2018 and under a neutral flag

Well ... the "citizens of the world" ... tried, practiced ... (at whose expense?) in the end, the statements of the "Wehrmacht" from Urengoy do not seem so unexpected. generation NEXT-ahead, behind the “grandmothers” - that was the meaning of training, and not in the Flag and the anthem ..? "Russia is our neutral power" ... YES? eh Vereshchagin ... how you were right: "It's a shame for the Power ...".

[The black]

The desire to go to Pyeongchang to the Sabbath organized by the "World Association of Russophobes" is essentially a parade of solidarity with the "Tyumen boy".

Just do not rush to stigmatize them, traitors, they say ..

Personally, I will not stigmatize anyone ... it’s their choice and God and the judge, but I won’t look (get sick) either - this is my choice ....

[maxim947]

In this situation, any decision is losing for the country, they drove us into a corner, and it doesn’t matter who stepped in there, dimly or someone else, the situation would in any case be exactly the way it is now. But I would not go, somehow dumb ... this would at the same time support athletes who were illegally suspended

[Andrey K]

Quote: RESEARCHER

Only sick, envious and miserable, and even false patriots, lazy people sticking out on the Internet can condemn. And a lot of other critics appeared here

They can approve the athlete’s performance on their own behalf, without a flag, coat of arms or anthem ...

can only sick, envious and wretched, and even false patriots, lazy people sticking out on the Internet. And a lot of other critics appeared here

My friend, who are you, hang tags
Behave more correctly and express an opinion on the article, and not on the mental abilities of those who disagree with your position ...
Healthy, not envious, not flawed, true patriot, working, not sticking on the Internet You are our

[Vladimir16]

At the Olympics, I support Russia. For those who speak under the Russian flag. If there are none, then there is no one to root for. So it makes no sense to watch.

No one has driven me into a corner, as some write.
They didn’t bend down the country, not the inhabitants, but specific athletes. Where is the line of these athletes? If the IOC orders everyone to become pederasts, will it stop? Or "European values" above all?
If an athlete does not have the willpower to demonstrate our flag, then this athlete is worthless. So he went there for the dough. In that case, let him ride at his own expense.
Business, nothing personal.

[Alena Frolovna]

Not the merit of being white
Not dignity - fair-haired.
It is very difficult to be brave.
It’s very easy to be a coward.
Who did not betray Russia
For my own glory
Knows: it's hard to be strong.
Knows: just being weak.
Knows: hard to live big
It’s easier to live carefully:
Good - difficult and difficult
And unkind - easy.
People of bold stature -
We smile sadly:
Of course, it’s not easy for us,
Not easy...
But not infamously!

1949, Nikolay Panchenko

[Tatyana]

Vladimir16
Bent ... specific athletes. Where is the line of these athletes? If the IOC orders everyone to become buggers, will it stop?

How well you said! Hit your question at the very point! Definitely for the sake of money and fame they will become!
Bach was wrong - he could boldly ask for concessions from our globalized athletes-marketers much more than he requested from them! All these athletes with their souls are no longer Russian citizens, but “citizens of the world” - they are scratching themselves at the fence of Europe and the United States so that they are only allowed to go there. After the Olympics, they will all be sold for the cordon. You will see!

If an athlete does not have the willpower to demonstrate our flag, then this athlete is worthless. So he went there for the dough.

Well, our athletes do not even want to admit to this, but the truth is that way!

[Tatyana]

Russians and athletes must consider one very important SCREAMING circumstance!
First of all. The decision of the Russian athlete to participate in the OI-2018 does not mean that a specially selected IOC commission will give him permission to do so. This commission will “clean” promising athletes from Russia in full as a continuation of its policy to exterminate Olympic victories on the part of Russian athletes. I agree, the athlete agrees, but the IOC can "ride" it and not let it go to the OI-2018.
Second. Moreover, the IOC and WADA, by their decision, did not allow OI-2018 not only some individual athletes and officials there, but did not allow the entire RUSSIAN TEAM, including officials, doctors, trainers of our athletes, cooks, lawyers ... etc. What FOREIGN personalities from this RUSSIAN team personnel will be provided to our athletes by the IOC and will they be at all? This is an open question!
But the most important thing is another! Namely.
The IOC and WADA set for a similar participation of athletes from the Russian Federation in the OI-2018 EXTREMELY PROVOCATIVE condition.

Athletes from the Russian Federation will be admitted only if the Russian Federation admits the conclusions of WADA and the rechecking commission of WADA results from the IOC as CORRECT.

For 3 of our athlete has already filed a lawsuit against WADA and personally against McLaren in a court of general jurisdiction for a lie with claims for the restoration of honor and dignity with compensation for monetary compensation for moral damage. These claims have not yet been accepted by the court. But there are 22 people of such Russian athletes who seem to have already filed with the sports court as part of the IOC structure! In this court, our athletes will not gain anything, but they have the right to sue GENERAL jurisdiction.
Therefore, the requirement of the IOC and WADA from the Russian Federation to recognize the WADA results on doping tests as correct as the MAIN condition for the admission of athletes from Russia to the Olympics-2018 is nothing more than an attempt by Bach, McLaren, Rodchenkov and others to avoid liability in the court of general jurisdiction the lawsuit of our athletes removed from the Olympic Games. RF can not miss this opportunity! No way!
In addition, the condition for the admission of our athletes is also penalties in the form of $ 15 million (billion?) That the Russian Federation must pay the IOC before the start of the Olympics-2018.
We need this money in courts with the IOC and WADA.
If the Russian Federation agrees to such conditions, then goodbye to our sovereignty before WADA and the IOC. While the Russian Federation can really put the IOC officials not just in place, but demand the reform of the IOC and WADA.
Otherwise, our athletes and Russia will always be protected in their rights from the arbitrariness of the pro-American IOC and WADA in general NEVER and in ANY legal way!
Sovereign Russia cannot go for it! Only her traitors will go for it!

[Tatyana]

Another thing to pay attention to is that the IOC is a PRIVATE office, and not an international organization of states such as the UN.
The IOC is, in theory, a private nightclub for organizing public holidays, when it works out the order of its richest customers and everything is built on the profit of the institution. At the same time, if the customers of the holiday told the owners of the club not to let those and those guests go on the holiday, then their customer’s request will be readily fulfilled!
I repeat - IOC is a private pro-American supposedly "non-profit" organization.
Therefore, the IOC can be completely dismissed due to violations by the IOC officials and the insignificant in the legal sense of the IOC Charter regarding the non-observance of the rights of athletes and countries by the IOC. And create another IOC based on the observance of the rights of athletes in accordance with international law.
Then Russia will not need to be afraid that its athletes, due to the boycott of OI-2018, will not get to the next two OIs.
Well. our brains need to think and calculate their actions on 2 steps forward!

[Krabik]

IOC orders everyone to become pederasts

If a person dies his whole life in sports and a trip to the Olympics, then of course he will become a bugger, as one comrade from Hollywood said, “Once a pederast”%)

[insular]

Quote: Krabik

If a person dies his whole life in sports and a trip to the Olympics

Here it is not necessary about "ruined life". Do you feel sorry for them now?
Each person ruins life at school, someone further in the technical school, someone in general then goes to the university and the army too. And at the same time they go in for sports and prizes in Russia are also taken by masters of sports (and how many CCMs and youthful and adult ones), and then they leave for a family and work for 30 thousand and this is not the worst option. And the work, you know, happens oh how unhealthy. Someone at the same time, already working and participating in sports and athletics events, and the TRP passes. This is a sport, this is the life I gave to sport and the country.
And someone does half of all this and continues for the state. account (read at the expense of those about whom I wrote above) run jump and ride.
Poor they are poor ...
Without a flag - they are nothing more than a punks from the gateway. Let them do what they want, but you don’t need to shame those who support the Russian team, and not the athletes from Russia.

[Varyag_0711]

RESEARCHER Today, 12:48 ↑ New
Only sick, envious and miserable, and even false patriots, lazy people sticking out on the Internet can condemn. And a lot of other critics appeared here

Oh how? Which of you will be with us?
Maybe we won’t condemn, but I’ll definitely despise them. They go there not to honor Russia to defend, but for the loot. They do not care about the honor of Russia, they rubbed it with their decision. What will they achieve there? Another humiliation? Let them go. But when the medals were again taken away from them, let them not cry, they knew what they were going to. After they agreed that they would wipe their feet, after knowing what refereeing will be there anyway they go there to play, according to obviously losing rules, with Western athletes who use dope buckets in the open ... Well, well .. .!
And don’t tell me that they’ll carry the national anthem and the flag of Russia in their heart, the same damn partisans were found for me.

[RESEARCHER]

I'm definitely not yours. No need to go into sports, not understanding what it is.
And thank you for saying that I didn’t write worse about YOU.

[Varyag_0711]

RESEARCHER Today, 13:03 ↑
I'm definitely not yours.

I already understood that!

No need to go into sports, not understanding what it is.

Well, of course, as a candidate for master of sports in volleyball, can you at least understand something in sports ?!

[97110]

Quote: Varyag_0711

Well, of course, as a candidate for master of sports in volleyball, he can at least understand something in sports

Mr. doesn’t mean vulgar volleyball, but advanced bugging of dough. The example of Gorbi, who cut down the dough and for him nothing, nothing, inspires Mr.. Yes, for such grandmas ... and what are they? I remember plywood over Paris. Well, I guess the budget will pay for the tickets. And who will feed them, the sick ones?

[Andrey K]

Quote: RESEARCHER

I'm definitely not yours. No need to go into sports, not understanding what it is.

I introduce myself - a master of sports in fencing (trained in the Dynamo sports community), retired police lieutenant colonel. Transnistria (urgent) and both Chechen companies are behind.
Judging by your nonsense - I'm lazy, not healthy (wretched), I don’t understand in sports and I'm not a patriot ...
You above the post doused the members of the forum (including me) with dirt. You really are not ours, because OURS are responsible for your words ...
Accurate cornering, your tongue is your enemy

[RESEARCHER]

It’s even good that I hooked YOU. You should not be too dubious to accept what I have said. But as for sports, here you are wrong.

[Andrey K]

Quote: RESEARCHER

It’s even good that I hooked YOU. You should not be too dubious to accept what I have said. But as for sports, here you are wrong.

You are too much obsessed with yourself and overestimate your abilities
You didn’t understand anything - I’m just in the correct form, I tried to bring you to life and call your colleagues to respect ...
As for sports - only a homeless person can speak without a flag and coat of arms, without a hymn - not a patriot, but a traitor under someone else's flag -
This is my private opinion, which I voiced, but unlike you, I did not brand anyone who disagreed ...

[RESEARCHER]

I repeat again. Write personally, and I will try to help you.

[a.sirin]

Those. An is a traitor ...

[Sasha_Sar]

I subscribe to every word

[dr.mel51]

And in war, you too, with a white flag, could run

[Andrey K]

Quote: dr.mel51

And in war, you too, with a white flag, could run

Respected page lieutenant of the reserve of the Air Force and Air Defense specialty pilot engineer (received at the institute and were not a day in the army)You are not acting like an officer. To leave.
You can immediately see the specialist in wars, where they run with white flags
The topic of the article is not my modest person.

[dr.mel51]

Firstly, they’re wrong that they didn’t serve as starling right after graduation, and secondly, I had a specialty related to the risk to my life. In connection with the accident and the loss of flight health, further service did not work out, but I do not cry and do not take offense at home.
And the example with white flags I addressed no longer to you but to the athletes
which, as it were, are also at war on their front, all the more so at the present time.

[Sotskiy]

Quote: RESEARCHER

No need to go into sports, not understanding what it is.

So maybe "cheat" us, dull? And for one tell us about "public-private partnerships" in sports, investors, profits, kickbacks, "contractuals" and generally about the structure of our sports business. Why do we have 50% of legionnaires running around in our football, instead of developing domestic youth schools? So where in all this is sport itself in the current realities?
Are we all integrating into globalization, even with a carcass, even with a scarecrow? Well, that’s the result of globalization, why do we need a flag and a hymn if we are all now “universal people and citizens of the world”? The main thing now is a personality, an individual, no matter what beliefs you have, but not as a national community represented by the state. And if so, then our coordinate system is just trying to take the rank of "equal partner" in the global system, but for some reason it is not taken there on equal terms, despite all the apologies and penances of Kolenek, Mutko and Zhukov?
Athletes, however, fell under the “press” of the public, in contrast to the ideologists of this system, only because they are public figures. This is like artists, Akhejakova blundered about "forgiveness for everything", where is she now? So it is with the athletes: they supported the current system of “universal humanity” in which they were generally educated, so why be surprised that most of the “not universal people” of the country did not understand you?

[rjpthju]

OK. Don’t confuse sport with the Motherland, Researcher. !!!

[Skarpzd]

in the distant past there was a CCM skiing. naturally I don’t understand a damn thing in sport.

[Hoc vince]

The Times columnist Giles Smith has announced a comic book contest among readers of the British newspaper.
“This year, our traditional Christmas competition will be to create for the“ Olympic athletes from Russia ”a suitable standard under which they can compete without any discomfort,” he says ironically. - We will send the best options to the IOC. Who knows, maybe when February comes, it is you who will enjoy watching at the opening ceremony how several, probably embarrassed athletes, put themselves ahead of you on the arena. ”

[GRF]

Quote: RESEARCHER

Only sick, envious and miserable, and even false patriots, lazy people sticking out on the Internet can condemn. And a lot of other critics appeared here

The word "ask mok" in the article sounds more than once.
So, if he hears a mok, then well done, if not, then it means that you rather poorly ask ... I think akhidzhakova will teach how to ...

And it’s embarrassing for the state that an alternative sports show cannot get into a fool, and forces you to make unpleasant decisions ...
Where is the democrats choice? Where is the freedom, liberals?
Somewhere, for what country, about ...? About cheaper, however ...

I remember how they cut the budget of one indecent organization, so we were asked back ...

[scrap123]

RESEARCHER
Only sick, envious and miserable, and even false patriots, lazy people sticking out on the Internet can condemn. And a lot of other critics appeared here

[scrap123]

Here are people like you in difficult times and throw a white flag

[RESEARCHER]

Write in person, and never get personal, you are our saint.

[Krabik]

sick, envious and miserable, and even false patriots, lazy people sticking out on the Internet and many other critics who appeared here

Not all of you condemn here on the site.

Money doesn't smell!

[rumatam]

whose will you be?

[Stas157]

Quote: RESEARCHER

Only sick, envious and miserable, and even false patriots, lazy people can condemn sticking out on the internet.

That is, you judge, I understand?

[lazy]

can be supported only by those who, for the sake of ghostly blessings, are ready to betray their dull gvno, latent relatives

[Gardamir]

they drove us into a corner

Have you ever played chess? We were shouted from every iron with cunning plans and geniuses of foreign policy, here are the results of his policy, but not yet evening.

[Svetlana]

Quote: Gardamir

they drove us into a corner

Have you ever played chess? We were shouted from every iron with cunning plans and geniuses of foreign policy, here are the results of his policy, but not yet evening.

I'm afraid it’s evening, but night is still ahead.

[Overlock]

famous mnogohodovochki, which flaunted many euphoric personalities

[Bourbon]

Quote: maxim947

But I would not go, somehow dumb ... this would at the same time support athletes who were illegally suspended

and I would go with photographs of those who were illegally suspended (on jackets, T-shirts) and die for them and for their homeland, anthem and flag

[rocket757]

The unity of the people and their athletes is worth a lot.
We do not have a private sport, they didn’t say Schaub ... there are exceptions, but they are few.
So they want to go. let him back but we no longer need them.
If commerce, well, say so - We are the people of the world -
we have enough der. everyone and from bohemia, also sports here, too much!

[Nikolai Grek]

Quote: maxim947

In this situation, any decision is losing for the country, they drove us into a corner, and it doesn’t matter who stepped in there, dimly or someone else, the situation would in any case be exactly the way it is now. But I would not go, somehow dumb ... this would at the same time support athletes who were illegally suspended

Yesterday I heard an interesting thought that Vova did not knowingly say that they wouldn’t hinder .... if the president announced a bike, there would be a couple of dozen athletes who would rush there anyway, and that would be grandiose the scandal used by liberals and other evil overseas against the country and the authorities !!!

[Vend]

Quote: Black

The desire to go to Pyeongchang to the Sabbath organized by the "World Association of Russophobes" is essentially a parade of solidarity with the "Tyumen boy".

Just do not rush to stigmatize them, traitors, they say ..

Personally, I will not stigmatize anyone ... it’s their choice and God and the judge, but I won’t look (get sick) either - this is my choice ....

I will not watch the Olympics either.

[Azazel]

I will not watch the Olympics either.

and what to watch then ?? how does some Vasya want to show himself ??
why should I root for some Vasya and Fros ??

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: Black

The desire to go to Pyeongchang to the Sabbath organized by the "World Association of Russophobes" is essentially a parade of solidarity with the "Tyumen boy".

Here is a verse by Yunna Moritz - in the topic about athletes from Nowhere.

[Azazel]

Personally, I will not stigmatize anyone ... it’s their choice and God and the judge, but I won’t look (get sick) either - this is my choice ....

many will do the same, including myself ...
I am surprised by these athletes, as people, what they have in mind ...
after all, it is already known that they were separated from the rest of the athletes (it seems like they were lowered in prison), they will live somewhere out of the way, it is clear that refereeing will be similar to Russophobic ...
do you really want to humiliate yourself in order to go ??
but what kind of media resource was raised for the trip to the Olympics, almost like Putin’s election !!!
Well, this is understandable, there is no Olympics, there is no broadcast, which means there is no advertising and the media on TV are losing money ... but then there must be brains !!!
to win means under a neutral flag, but they will lose, like the Russians!
and most importantly, neither honor nor respect will earn in either Russia or other countries ....

[Bulrumeb]

Just do not rush to stigmatize them, traitors, they say ..

They were given a choice, they made it. Vlasovites also seemed to be for their homeland ...

[not main]

Quote: Black

Just do not rush to stigmatize them, traitors, they say ..

Personally, I will not stigmatize anyone ... it’s their choice and God and the judge, but I won’t look (get sick) either - this is my choice ....

I will neither look nor hurt (unlike Lillehammer), but the athlete has two olympiads on his strength! For which he had been preparing all his life! And to deprive him of this opportunity is simply not fair! I repeat, I’m watching and I won’t get sick !!! Threat I almost missed! I won’t watch, but I’ll be rooting for Belarusians!

[Andrey K]

Porridge and confusion ...
This is of course the athletes' business ...
On the one hand, yes - an athlete, all his life he sought and so on and so forth ...
And on the other - they trained at the expense of the state, coaches trained in government institutions, the work was paid by the state ....
What the hell, when this state begins to humiliate, athletes suddenly became individuals, and not part of the state, our society ...
How does it appear under someone’s flag !!! ???
Where is their mother, their honor and pride ...
It’s the same as me, I was condemned somewhere on a far-fetched pretext, and my son said that he had no relationship with me and would generally live under a different surname ...
Vile ...
This, of course, is exclusively my personal opinion ...

[BMP-2]

I agree. Condemning - it may not make sense, but respecting - for nothing ...

[Gardamir]

This is of course the athletes

Yes, this is a matter of neutral athletes, a neutral country. Russian athletes will not go. And our government is neutral if it is silent and rejoices for the white flag.

[Bulrumeb]

This is of course the athletes' business ...
On the one hand, yes - an athlete, all his life he sought and so on and so forth ...

Yes, but for example, pensioners also plowed their whole lives, striving for a better life. What the vast majority of them got all we know. But they don’t fight in hysterics, although they could have been understood. And Olympic scholarships will not be thrown to them, because there is no money, and no one will accept them in EdRo and will not give a place in the Duma.

[dorz]

Opinion polls show that the majority of Russians have a negative attitude to the participation of Russian athletes under neutral symbols in South Korea

Kadyrov, by the way, forbade athletes from Chechnya to participate in the Olympics.

[forty-eighth]

And who is this famous Chechen athlete? Biathlete? Hockey player? Bobsledder?

[stas-xnumx]

That's just the point, as the question touched the dough, all the points were settled ... I agree, it's a shame, we also ask them to reconsider, but we wouldn’t unanimously go, there would be a blow to their pocket ... They would think for the first time, and so, it turns out, they gave us their faces, and we also ask for forgiveness ....

[Sail]

Yes, not for grandmothers, Andrei Yurievich, but for the meaning of their whole life-Let everyone tear, here is the best answer to Lord Curzon will be.

[savage1976]

And in sledding the meaning of life? For my children at the age of 5 this was the meaning of life, for me now my children are the meaning of life, and not skating, sledding, skiing. Weak meanings of life in people of the nation however.

[Dart2027]

Quote: savage1976

And in sledding the meaning of life?

There isn’t for an ordinary person, and even for those who simply go in for sports, too, but those who are preparing for the Olympics are different here - for several years they have essentially lived only for this. I do not presume to judge them.

[Nitochkin]

Blessed is he who believes. Are you sure they will be allowed to win? Or they will first give a medal, and then, in a year, another, they will give a pissing Wad rag on the face of the face.

[marline]

Quote: Andrey Yurievich

tried, trained ... (at whose expense?) in the end ... for the "grandmothers" - that was the meaning of training ...

Really for yours? Considering that many of them have been training over the hill for years, do you think they were sent money from the budget of the Russian Federation? And yes, they work out the loot that has been invested ... Such is la la vie ...
This USSR could afford to ban and boycott, then the athletes were really preparing for the state account ... now, alas, ah ...

[Hlavaty]

Quote: merlin

Really for yours? Considering that many of them have been training over the hill for years, do you think they were sent money from the budget of the Russian Federation?

Ultimately, due to ordinary Russians. Even if this money is not from the budget, then it means money from the oligarchs, "honestly stolen" from the people. Or will you say that one of the athletes worked part-time at a construction site for his support?

[marline]

Quote: Hlavaty

Ultimately, due to ordinary Russians.

And of course, you forgot about prize payments. Although, all this is talk about nothing, the main thing is that there is no single salary for athletes playing in the team - this is a fact ... This is not for the USSR.

[Nemesis]

In the USA, no one gives the athletes either apartments or state prizes or Mercedes ... Let them go to the factory to work hard, if they don’t like the bulldo to drive in sports for a lot of money, which they do not pay to the locksmiths for a year ... They worked there ... Let go to the mine to work, they will understand what real work is

[ioan-e]

I fully support! At the expense of the trip, let them go at their own expense, and then stop spending budget money on them, let them knock over the hill and train anywhere and for anyone's money.

[tomket]

Quote: Andrey Yurievich

well ... "citizens of the world" ... tried, trained ... (at whose expense?)

Well, we have long been some individuals, after the failed performances, both personal and in the national teams, have stated that athletes owe nothing to anyone, and if the fans think they have something there, it’s their problem. This supposedly purely their own business. Our priority is personality, which country? What are you speaking about?

Quote: Andrey Yurievich

"Russia is our neutral power" ... YES?

We have partners around. Well, think about wiping our feet, for the first time in our lifetime?

[Mar.Tirah]

What do you want from professionals who make money from this? They have their own closed organizations (federations), their own roof. They pay, they pay. Business, and patriotism, you know, things are incompatible. There’s no such thing as a folk sport now. Destroyed together with the Union. Ugh !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Sergey53]

What did we want? Patriotism, the concept of Homeland, heroism, as if secretly canceled by liberoids. You listen to Chubais, Kudrin, Gref and their entire state-owned company. And free textbooks from Soros? What did they preach and preach? Money is at the forefront. And decency, honesty, patriotism turned into nothing. So that.....

[a.sirin]

Ok, we’ll refuse to participate ... You’re flying from another 2 Olympics - these are the laws.
After 8 years in the country there will be no sport as such. What is it like?

[Alekseits]

Do not confuse warm with soft. This is in the case of a boycott of the Olympiad COUNTRY, there is such a punishment. But the country did not declare a boycott

[rocket757]

The people will remain in the country!
And there will always be something to be proud of.

[albert]

Quote: a.sirin

After 8 years in the country there will be no sport as such. What is it like?

For some reason, the Union, after the boycott of the Olympiad 84, four years later took first place in the medal standings and nothing. But we still have the sport. World championships and continental championships have not gone away and no one is going to remove us there.

[a.sirin]

Then there was no this law

[Alf]

Quote: a.sirin

After 8 years in the country there will be no sport as such.

Why do you think so ? Children go to sports not to become a world champion, but for their pleasure and benefit to.

[sharp-lad]

Sport in the country is when citizens and their children do it, and not individual citizens!

[rumatam]

Mercedes will also require for medals. http://www.interfax-russia.ru/Center/pressrel.asp
? Id = 852926
for some reason these merci did not receive.

[LSA57]

Quote: Andrey Yurievich

"Russia is our neutral power" ... YES?

[vfqjh]

How I agree with you. Talking that this is the only chance in their life I consider the excuse of cowardice, the guys who in the war, in general, have no chances and guarantees, and no grants either. And they also have only one life.

[Igor V]

"... You may not be an athlete, but you must be a citizen ..."
Forgive me, Nikolai Alekseevich, that he redid his verse, but, I think, the meaning in the poem was exactly that.

[Michael67]

I will add. Does the generation nekst, the part that is going to go, understand that the whole west will publicly and with impunity wipe everything they want to wipe about them? And it will be wiped about each personally.

[Sergey-svs]

You can’t boycott OI-2018, they tell us. This could lead to the removal of Russia from the Olympic Games for another 8 years and kill Russian sport. Therefore - we must go!
Chronicle of humiliation:
1. The International Olympic Committee (IOC) has decided to exclude Russia from participation in the 2018 Winter Olympics;

2. The functionaries of the Ministry of Sports of the Russian Federation are prohibited from being present in South Korea. Alexander Zhukov is deprived of membership in the IOC;

3. OCD must donate $ 15 million to create an independent doping test system;

4. Russian athletes lost 11 medals and first place in the medal standings of the 2014 Winter Olympics (Since 1994, Russia has been deprived of 48 medals of the Summer and Winter Olympic Games);

5. Russian athletes will perform at the 2018 Olympics under a neutral flag (Neutral status provides for the absence of a flag, anthem and the inscription “Russia” on the uniform and attributes of our athletes.);

6. Russian athletes will be prohibited from residing in the Olympic village;

7. The IOC wants to ban the flag of Russia for fans at the Olympic Games 2018;

8. Russian hockey players were banned from being called the “Russian National Team”;

9. Putin: the authorities of the Russian Federation will not impede the participation of athletes in the Olympics in neutral status;

10. The head of the Russian Olympic Committee (ROC) Alexander Zhukov apologized to the executive committee of the International Olympic Committee;

11. IOC President Thomas Bach said re-awarding ceremonies for the Sochi 2014 medals that were selected from Russian athletes will be held in Pyeongchang;

12. Russian sleigh riders unanimously voted for speaking at OI-2018;

13. The Presidium of the Bobsleigh Federation of Russia recommended that athletes go to the Olympic Games 2018;

14. The Russian Snowboard Federation recommended athletes to speak at the 2018 Games;

15. Russian skiers have decided to speak at the Olympic Games in Pyeongchang;

16. Russian curlers agree to speak at the Olympic Games 2018 under a neutral flag;

17. The Russian Freestyle Federation advocated the participation of athletes in the 2018 Games;

18. The Russian bobsled and skeleton teams are ready to perform at the Olympic Games 2018 under the Olympic flag;

19. The skater Stolbova is ready to perform at the Olympics under a neutral flag;

20. IBU has limited the rights of the Russian Biathlon Union for doping violations;

21. Federal television channels changed their minds to boycott the Olympics.

PS Further, based on historical experience, all the buildings of the Olympic village should have signs "Dogs and athletes from Russia are not admitted," as in the United States during times of racism and segregation. However, blacks in America had no choice. But our COPs climb into this shame and humiliation voluntarily. Ready for anything, if only to speak and cut down the bablishka.
But we understand that the athlete’s life is short, they’ve been preparing all their lives ... Let's go, defeatists! Forward!

[Petr1]

I would advise them to change their citizenship, otherwise there will be very little chance of victory, or spit on everything and go to work as welders.

[cost 75]

Or just go work with at least someone.

[ArhipenkoAndrey]

Well, let’s do something really useful for the country, and move the money that they spend on it to children’s sport, it will be more useful.

[Shura Sailors]

Better let them sit at home and quietly hate Russian politicians and everyone involved? As a result, they will run west to cry, like some used athletes

[sogdy]

Quote: shura sailors

Better let them sit at home and quietly hate Russian politicians and everyone involved?

Who will hate - he will hate in any situation. Palyubasu.

[Sergey53]

An example of our liberals. As they hated the people, they hate them in spite of the fact that they rule the country.

[Nemesis]

Here are just those who call themselves liberals who have nothing to do with the indigenous population of the Russian Federation and are not ours either by blood or spirit ... That's why I am for adopting a citizenship law in the Russian Federation similar to that which exists in Nepal and Saudi Arabia, so that all of these not ours in the government of the Russian Federation were not for a cannon shot ...

[Viktor.12.71]

Under the USSR, this was not. Russia is isolated from the whole world. Western media are happy.

[Gardamir]

will kill Russian sport

do olympiads develop sports?

[ArhipenkoAndrey]

That's just the point, the Olympiad is a competition of countries, their athletes, notice the countries with their attributes, anthem, flag.

[BMP-2]

Something I don’t understand: how can the non-participation of Russia in the Olympic Games in such a cunning way kill Russian sport? In Russia, what does the International Olympic Committee pay for the costs of sports? Or are all Russian athletes Olympic champions? Or is it that all Russian athletes have such a delicate and vulnerable psyche that non-participation in acting will lead to a loss of the meaning of life, frustration and depression ???

[Viktor.12.71]

To paraphrase the late Kennedy: Today, two things are really important for the prestige of a nation: space flights and Olympic gold medals. I am no longer a young man, maybe in the 21st century this is not relevant.

[BMP-2]

To paraphrase the saying: "Today, prestige is separate, and flies are separate!"

[Victor N]

Which international issues addressed the number of medals? This is pure fiction. There are only losses from the state of this show sport. Even from the most spectacular sport - hockey - nothing comes into the state budget.

[zoolu350]

But Kennedy said nothing about neutral flags.

[82т11]

Forgot to add that in 2016, Paralympic athletes were not allowed to attend the Olympics in Rio

[ArhipenkoAndrey]

And the athletes don't give a damn about it, they are without clans and tribes, children of the world, but at the expense of someone else. The only thing they forgot is that the money that friends from the IOC will give them will be asked in triplets - business and nothing personal.

[Krabik]

You are too strict for the athletes, still start to teach prostitutes on Tverskaya that they do not behave very well.

[Teberii]

Everything needs to be called and those who invented it. The humiliation of the country, athletes must be held accountable.

[Andrey Yuryevich]

disgusting, disgusting, the soul does not accept, the mind does not understand ... and this is all a reaction to what we have been harked at, and someone said, garbage ... rub yourself and go. get money, wash off.

[tchoni]

And then they will be elected deputies and they will begin to hang our noodles on our ears, about how they patriotically defended the interests of the country under a neutral flag for taxpayer money. And to demand from yesterday’s schoolboy Vasya Pupkin heroically, free of charge, to give his life for his homeland at the first opportunity.

[solzh]

If the athletes don’t care about the opinion of the majority of the population ... well, let’s go, as they say: they’ll hold the white flag in their hands, but don’t be offended that the people are covering them with three floors.
For some reason, athletes forget on whose money they prepared and trained them.

[Alf]

Quote: solzh

just let them not be offended that the people cover them with three floors.

And this does not bother them.

[scrap123]

but not under the infamous white flag

[Dimontius]

Most? very interesting to know the names of the proud minority!

[210ox]

Yes, let them go, of course. Only for their money, and not for a state account. Once apart from sports, they have nothing else .. And at their own expense let them try to prepare! And they are not traitors of course. Once our state has no ideology, it must be pragmatism!

Quote: Segel

Just do not rush to stigmatize them, traitors, they say ... Remember when the West did not go to Moscow, many of their athletes arrived, the same Sebastian Coe took gold, and no one in England called him a traitor ... We will be more adequate, they it’s once in a lifetime, all my life is laid on it, except for my gyms, then they are completely smelling and haven’t seen anything, not fights in asphalt pieces at the disco, not the first kisses with the girl after that, nor the dawn meeting on the river with her ... One Galimov your sport !!! Let them go, and let them tear them all there !!!

[scrap123]

When there at the Olympics they will wipe their feet about them, because they exchanged their flag for a worthless white rag, then let them not scream on the channels how they humiliated them there ....

[Lavrenti Pavlovich]

Quote: Segel

Just do not rush to stigmatize them, traitors, they say ... Remember when the West did not go to Moscow, many of their athletes arrived, the same Sebastian Coe took gold, and no one in England called him a traitor ... We will be more adequate, they it’s once in a lifetime, all my life is laid on it, except for my gyms, then they are completely smelling and haven’t seen anything, not fights in asphalt pieces at the disco, not the first kisses with the girl after that, nor the dawn meeting on the river with her ... One Galimov your sport !!! Let them go, and let them tear them all there !!!

If the athletes had one “balcony sport”, then their victorious performances would not infuriate the people. The sanctions were announced against Russia, for which they should stand for, and for whom they are now going to speak (for some rings on the white flag). Not only athletes fell under the sanctions, small business was badly damaged, so why should athletes go to earn money they don’t represent Russia? Or do we not know what? Who will now believe that sport is not politics. Performing under a neutral flag is an indicative renunciation of one's own, I consider this a betrayal. You can not be a little patriot, and a little traitor. The IOC has discredited itself why such medals are needed, the IOC needs to put forward conditions that if they do not stop fooling, then Russia will not compete in these competitions. In Sochi, you can hold your own Olympics and reward Olympic medals, which is the problem.

[BMP-2]

I also think so: in the days of the Soviet Union, there was no tragedy of any kind of “cat fight”: they organized and held the “Goodwill Games” - both athletes in action and the audience were satisfied, and the Americans were worn out!

[cost 75]

If sport is out of politics, let all athletes quit politics

[Radical]

We are not the West! This West in 1939 "laid down" under Hitler! Did we need it too?

[Fedalex]

Yes, let them go ... I will "root" for the athletes of my country! And what’s the name of these, who are flying the flag of capitulators, I don’t care! Today, they compete under the white flag, which has nothing to do with Russia, and tomorrow they will change their citizenship and will compete for other countries ... There will be no Olympic champions at this Olympiad - there will be IOC and WADA champions!

[PDM80]

Oh eh! Poor little ones they didn’t go to discos, but the sports hall disappeared! And who interfered with their education and profession ?! The country, at its own expense, fed them, equip them, transported them around the world, paid their fees, they’re lazy walkers, you see, all their life they have gone to this! Return everything enclosed in you and go, only absolutely non-neutral! No matter how you are not connected with Russia!

[Fitter65]

Quote: Segel

To be more adequate, they have it once in a lifetime, their whole life is laid on, except for their gyms, then they are completely smelling and they haven’t seen anything, not fights in asphalt pieces at the disco, not the first kisses with the girl after this, nor the dawn on the river with her same ..

Of course, of course, they paid their money for this, trained in their personal gyms, or in stadiums rented for their personal savings? Or did they go to all this with the money of Russian taxpayers? It is because people really don’t even want to think about the consequences for themselves and the country. They accused the country of not presenting any reasonable evidence, but they said if you agree to our terms, admit lying report, come to the Olympic disgrace, as people without a clan and tribe, the West will forgive you, and at the closing of the Olympic Games-2018 it will allow you to carry the flag of your country, maybe if you do not forget to allow it ... Well, on the other hand, in Novy Urengoy-Kolya , in Russia-diligent athletes-TRAITORS.

Quote: Segel

Remember when the West did not go to Moscow, many of their athletes arrived, the same Sebastian Coe took the gold, and no one in England called him a traitor.

Firstly, the West announced an OFFICIALLY boycott of OI-1980. Secondly, Western athletes who arrived on their own, or on their own initiative, performed their flags, and when they climbed the podium, they played the anthem of THEIR COUNTRY. It was a boycott of our Olympic Games from the west, and there is no ban on the performance of spot-athletes from Western countries in our country. And we did not indicate to athletes who can come to our games and who cannot. Therefore, please do not confuse carrots and a tram handle.
And on the other hand, why it is impossible to conduct a survey among the population of the country, yes, yes, among those people whose money they gave to the state in the form of tax, and for which taxes this state built sports facilities and so on. So, the PEOPLE will ask how it thinks On this issue. You don’t need to hold a referendum, just let them hear what ordinary people think about it. Simple citizens of the country, not officials with a lack of self-esteem and pride in their country. They spat in his face, and they did not even wipes away, but started telling how everything turned out not bad. Did you look at their answers to reporters right after the decision of this commission? When the poor skater tried to say something, how the officer next to the “sports” physique began to talk about how good she was, how she performed well in English, she has a chance to become a long-distance sports functionary. And the girl clap-clap with her eyes and everything, there were no comments. And where will the comments come from? her uncle official explained on the air, you will say too much and goodbye career.
Therefore, my opinion as a representative of the people-traitors !!!
And on the account of the first kisses and other things, it’s not for us, it’s for their parents who brought them to sports schools, but in the future they themselves chose the path of a professional athlete. This is not a young guy asking whether he wants to serve or not, but go do your duty in front of the motherland ...

[Overlock]

and as one participant advocated with Solovyov, the Motherland should shower them with gifts, money, because they are HEROES. So, citizens and citizens.

[rumatam]

But they were traveling at their own expense, so let ours at their own expense.

[BARKHAN]

Quote: Segel

Just do not rush to stigmatize them, traitors, they say ... Remember when the West did not go to Moscow, many of their athletes arrived, the same Sebastian Coe took gold, and no one in England called him a traitor ... We will be more adequate, they it’s once in a lifetime, all my life is laid on it, except for my gyms, then they are completely smelling and haven’t seen anything, not fights in asphalt pieces at the disco, not the first kisses with the girl after that, nor the dawn meeting on the river with her ... One Galimov your sport !!! Let them go, and let them tear them all there !!!

There is no need for verbiage. There are our interests, but there are strangers. That's all ...

[Wolverine]

I’m not in a hurry, but I think that the main task of the IOC to separate the team and team spirit and the performance of individual athletes flying the white flag is treason. We are strong when together and united when the Flag, Coat of Arms and Anthem are with us. Each individually is weak and the most will be taken away; these proxies from the IOC are all clearly calculated to separate and finish separately.

[ArhipenkoAndrey]

Under the white flag is the capitulation of RUSSIA, at least on such a show as the Olympics, Russia has already lost these games thanks to the "athletes" who have expressed their interest in participating in this show and God forbid that they mocked them as VDavtsy, and after the Olympics, a year or two later if they won something, they would have taken it.

[siberalt]

Let them ask Mutko for the flag, but we will root for our athletes and wish them good luck!

[ArhipenkoAndrey]

Yes, of course, white and fluffy, but without a clan and a tribe, what the advanced Olympic community sought, and for me Jude they are Jude, they only care about themselves, the concept of a country is completely absent, not for them the homeland of Russia, there is a territory on which they were forced to live in. RUSSIA has cheated ruble gentlemen and get maximum pleasure at the Olympics.

[Victor N]

Society alone costs this. And no good.

[lazy]

koe performed under the flag of his country, and played at the award what anthem? for what his English call a traitor? let's justify those who abandoned their parents for a career because "this is their life." and the paratrooper that he preferred in Chechnya not to remove the cross and not to disown his faith in order to save his life with a stubborn padded jacket. just IS HONOR AND IS DISAPPOINTMENT. it seems to me that IOC would set the condition for a trip to the Olympics by our men an unconventional prostate massage, they would be indignant and give, "it's their life they were preparing for this"

[Svetlana]

Quote: Segel

Let them go, and let them tear them all there !!!

It seems to me that this is the last nail in the lid of the coffin Soviet sports as the foundation of the Russian.

[passing]

Remember when the West did not go to Moscow, many of their athletes arrived, the same Sebastian Coe took the gold, and no one in England called him a traitor.

but they didn’t even pour money from the state budget. At their own expense, let them go, their choice!

[Alekseits]

At the same time, no one deprived these athletes of the Anthem, Flag and Coat of Arms of their country and settled them not in the "plague barracks" separately from everyone else. And they went to the Olympiad (consciously wrote with a capital letter, because this is not the Olympics that was written with a capital) at their own expense. I remember the English cavalry of his horse carried at his own expense. So ours, let them go, but at their own expense: they will not represent our country. So there’s nothing for the country to pay for them.

[Misha Honest]

Just shameful for the sake of dough and in the pursuit of gold decided to be even more disgraced. As a result, we, and they will receive, both shame and war. Just ... Honor is gone ...

[seos]

In Russia, for the people, a market economy, for Bohemia, officials and athletes, I have some other economy .... based on suction to the budget ...

[Dmitry Konoplev]

Well, more than once, some have two and three. Watch what they want. Earn money and roll back or really be a great athlete.

[NEXUS]

Quote: Segel

Let them go, and let them tear them all there !!!

As Comrade Bunsha used to say from the movie "Ivan Vasilyevich Changes the Profession" - at whose expense is the banquet?
The second question is, excuse me, who made them such athletes then? Or is it all at your own expense? There is a direct question about dull earnings with the hope of grants, bonuses and the chanting of their names. Only if they ride under the white flag, do not let them say that they are Russian athletes. They are not going to protect the interests of the country, but their selfish interests. Well, the flag in their hands and a fair wind in a stooped back.
And for me it's a disgrace!

[osoboye_mneniye]

Quote: NEXUS

There is a direct question about dull earnings with the hope of grants, bonuses and the chanting of their names.

You're not right. But your professional activity should first of all bring emotional satisfaction, self-realization? Or do you only work for grandmothers and at the same time consider yourself a truly Russian person? I hope no. Athletes are also basically not fighting for money. Believe that they lose much more than they earn. They lose their health, family happiness, and the ability to adapt later in society (they only know how to sport), etc. And they earn only money, for which you can’t buy all of the above. Self-esteem and desire for self-realization drives them. It’s bad when, for the sake of their ambitions, they betray the country. But they do not betray you for money - 100% you easily judge what you cannot know about.
It’s bad that the enemies showed once again how weak and fragmented we are.

[osoboye_mneniye]

Quote: Segel

Just do not rush to stigmatize them, traitors, they say ... Remember when the West did not go to Moscow, many of their athletes arrived, the same Sebastian Coe took gold, and no one in England called him a traitor ... We will be more adequate, they it’s once in a lifetime, all my life is laid on it, except for my gyms, then they are completely smelling and haven’t seen anything, not fights in asphalt pieces at the disco, not the first kisses with the girl after that, nor the dawn meeting on the river with her ... One Galimov your sport !!! Let them go, and let them tear them all there !!!

Hmm ... you messed up something. Those who came to the voluntary absence of their team, no one disgraced - did not deprive the flag. It is one thing when the country itself refuses to participate for political reasons, and another thing when the country is isolated for political reasons, and its athletes are offered to leave their country and go without it.
You are warm with soft confuse.
Once again, the whole world was shown the disunity of our society. Sports officials solve their issues. Athletes - their own. Sport is a PR tool. But there is no single country. Because there is no what is now called a national idea. What is it with us? Worldwide friendship for markets? The darkness of religion instead of faith in man and the light of knowledge? Exploitation instead of free peaceful labor? Forgetting your recent glorious past and history in a new way?
Athletes cannot be blamed. They are a product of our time. They are just like us. Many of us in their place would do the same. Condemning while in the visual bed is easy.

[pvv113]

expressed a desire to participate in the 2018 Olympic Games, despite the IOC ban on the use of the flag and anthem of Russia

Conflicting feelings torment me ...

[Jedi]

Not you alone, Volodya. Although I personally think that consent to speak without one’s flag and anthem is akin to betrayal of the motherland.

[pvv113]

Here I am about the same

[Cutter]

Colleagues, I read comments and there is a vile “image” in front of my eyes, wearing dark glasses and a curly-haired shag, who sold her homeland for an American typewriter and a house, with the official name Rodchenkov, and in fact, JUDA ... This is definitely a TRAITOR!

[pvv113]

Absolutely correct definition. Such people must be hung up without waiting for a court decision or wartime conditions. The thief must sit, and the traitor must hang!

[Gardamir]

akin to the betrayal of the motherland. soldier

Say shorter THIS IS A BETTERNESS.

[BMP-2]

Maksim! Probably the values, indeed, began to change. And not for the better! There is, of course, another option "we don’t understand something," only he doesn’t make me happy either.

[Jedi]

Volodya, hello! I can understand athletes striving for the main starts of the planet, but there is a limit to everything! And putting personal interests above state ones is already too much. Although bureaucrats of all stripes are constantly engaged in this and give everyone an "example".

[BMP-2]

Yes, as they say, "it's beautiful to live - you can’t forbid it." But you can’t make it!

[BARKHAN]

Quote: pvv113

Conflicting feelings torment me ...

Quote: Jedi

Not you alone

Quote: Gardamir

Say shorter THIS IS A BETTERNESS.

This is a betrayal of the motherland ...

[bubalik]

,,, honestly stolen from the Internet,

[saveall]

Of course, where would it be without a mausoleum and a corpse ...? Without it, the Motherland is not the motherland ... And how did Russia live so long before it was invented ?!

[bubalik]

saveall Today, 13: 29

,,, and what does the corpse have to do with it?
,, Mausoleum as a symbol of Victory and Victory not only in war ,,,


,,, If a country lacks its own state ideology, then a foreign ideology operates in the country.

[saveall]

And then Victory has no more characters? You’ll take it away and there’s no Victory at once ... A corpse despite the fact that the name of the corpse is written on the mausoleum and it lies there, and it was built specifically for worshiping the corpse, and not Victory at all.
And what is impossible to build an ideology without a mausoleum? Well, is it really impossible to educate young people in love for the Motherland on the same Victory (without a mausoleum), on the feat of our ancestors who won many wars from Alexander Nevsky to Zhukov and just teaching and instilling in them the main and eternal values ​​that allowed our people to go out winner in any situation. Well, not the mausoleum teaches all this!

[bubalik]

saveall Today, 14: 01An that it is impossible to build an ideology without a mausoleum?

,,, yes it is possible, only the state has moved away from this
,,, I read in a child in the encyclopedia:
1961-First Vostok-1 manned spacecraft was launched into space. Yuri Gagarin became the first man to fly into space. (no country or nation).

1969g-American astronaut Neil Armstrong became the first man to set foot on the moon. ,,, that's the whole ideology

[Hlavaty]

Quote: saveall

And what is impossible to build an ideology without a mausoleum? Well, is it really impossible to educate young people in love for the Motherland on the same Victory (without a mausoleum), on the feat of our ancestors who won many wars from Alexander Nevsky to Zhukov and just teaching and instilling in them the main and eternal values ​​that allowed our people to go out winner in any situation.

So far, even attempts to build a new ideology are not visible. Before breaking the old, one must at least propose a new one. And it will turn out as it is now - neither old nor new, each for itself. To the delight of the enemies.

[bubalik]

Hlavaty Today, 14: 18Before breaking the old, you must at least offer a new one. And it will turn out as it is now - neither old nor new, each for itself. To the delight of the enemies.

,,,

[saveall]

Quote: Hlavaty

.... And it will turn out as it is now - neither old nor new, each for itself. To the delight of the enemies.

Well, yes, that’s precisely why you need to grab onto old insignificant objects such as a mausoleum, and do your best to try to build them into real meanings, and sometimes pass them off as symbols of all the achievements of the people.
That is precisely because we have such a mess in the head and we bring up the same ones with us and with the same porridge multiplied by the cult of the "golden calf" and consumption.

[teron]

"... nothing insignificant objects such as a mausoleum ..." It's funny, but in Ukraine "nothing insignificant objects" of the past Soviet era greatly annoy the nationalists there. Yes, and in the Baltic republics. Probably these "objects" still mean something?

[savage1976]

Well, why not see, everything is visible. Everything is sold and bought. You can sell everything, the memory of ancestors, the opinion of the people, the homeland. The main thing is not to miscalculate the price, and if there is enough for a couple of answers, then they will write you down as heroes. Quite a normal ideology of the golden calf.

[Fitter65]

Quote: saveall

The corpse despite the fact that the surname of the corpse is written on the mausoleum and it lies there, and it was built specifically for the worship of the corpse,

We’ll go down much lower than the Mausoleum and Red Square. To the simple roads of Russia, where there are wreaths and monuments on every kilometer, this is also worship of the TRUPS. I would like to understand why if you tell the truth about the tsar who left his country in difficult times, this is an insult to the feelings of believers. insulting a person under whose command they began to revive the country brought to the edge is normal.

[osoboye_mneniye]

Quote: saveall

And what is impossible to build an ideology without a mausoleum?

So you build, if you know and know how. And if the older generation recognizes your ideology above them, and agrees to say goodbye to the mausoleum, as a symbol of their ideology - the ideology of winners, then the flag is in your hands.
And then why shake the air? The mausoleum is a symbol of faith recognized by millions of your ancestors, who gave you a great country, great achievements, a good well-fed life.
If you pay attention to the yapping of ungrateful and not-so-distant descendants, then you can take the whole country to pieces. How did the Ukrainians, for example ..

[Per se.]

Quote: bubalik

If the country does not have its own state ideology, then the country has a foreign ideology

If capitalism was chosen, the corresponding ideology, as well as motivation with morality. There was a great Soviet hockey, and, first of all, won thanks to the Soviet ideology of collectivism and camaraderie, pride in their people and their country. What happened to the current “legionnaires”, for whom the endless show in the Stanley Cup, the whole point of their life, is making money. I personally do not need such self-contained hockey and are not interested. All excuses, like, trained, prepared, waited for the Olympics ... What, and to the enemies of Russia would you go to such an Olympiad? What is being done against Russia is, in fact, hostile, not fair. Here, however, the state itself threw the athletes by washing their hands, instead of making a tough statement, instead of organizing alternative games, in which the athletes could show what they were ready for, especially since it’s not even a neutral flag. Russia will not again sue, will not select a medal, shaking the "white powder". Do not respect yourself and your country, go ahead, humiliate yourself further, good riddance. What is surprising, capitalism, and the owner of the system in London and Washington ...

[Shura Sailors]

Well yes. And the victory in World War II must be given to the United States, because suspicious scratches were found on the walls of the Reichstag
"D, B" (Minister of Foreign Affairs of the Russian Federation Lavrov)

[AleksPol]

Let it be on their conscience. If only then they would not sing about the love of the flag and the Russian anthem, as Solovyov said yesterday in the program.

[Warrior with machine gun]

this "expression of will" is their whole love for the flag and anthem, given that they are mainly in the foreign countries at training camps, so they don’t care about the flag and anthem, their ego is more expensive.

[forty-eighth]

Putin said we would not boycott OI-18, the athletes agreed to go. If Putin would have told him to boycott, then no one would have gone.

[bk316]

Putin said we would not boycott OI-18, the athletes agreed to go. If Putin would have told him to boycott, then no one would have gone.

Putin came in and took a brush and painted over the matyugi in the elevator.
And none of the tenants of the entrance even knew that it could be done, it’s interesting that they still don’t know that it’s just possible not to write the MATCHES, then you don’t have to paint over.

Somehow sad ...

[svp67]

Well, well ... Athletes having decided to go there, went on a very difficult path. Now part of our population will begin to dust them, so they are without a flag and a national anthem, one more will be VERY happy about their defeats, shouting: “here you can’t do it without doping ...” So that they have now only one way - WIN, honestly and in a way that would be without any doubt.

[AleksPol]

So they are exhausted with their samples before the start of the competition.

[svp67]

Quote: AleksPol

So they are exhausted with their samples before the start of the competition.

When they made the decision, I think they knew what they were going to ...

[Going]

Quote: svp67

Well, well ... Athletes having decided to go there, went on a very difficult path. Now part of our population will begin to dust them, so they are without a flag and a national anthem, one more will be VERY happy about their defeats, shouting: “here you can’t do it without doping ...” So that they have now only one way - WIN, honestly and in a way that would be without any doubt.

So it turns out you can’t go, but don’t go even worse, choose the lesser of two evils.

[svp67]

Quote: Going

So it turns out you can’t go, but don’t go even worse

And our special forces and PMC employees, they are also very often without a "hymn and flag" ... but it’s necessary, it’s necessary for someone to defend their homeland anyway ....

[Going]

Yes, and without documents, it is necessary to protect the homeland, the sport is now right on the front line.

[svp67]

Quote: Going

Sport is now right on the front line.

No, it turns out that already in the deep rear of the OPPONENT ...

[Makarov]

If one of them unfurls the flag of the Russian Federation at the ceremony being in 1st place, then yes ... and this is an ordinary betrayal

[svp67]

Quote: Makarov

and so this is an ordinary betrayal

You can think anything. But I will not judge them for sure. I want to see what they stand in conditions like athletes and people ...

Quote: Makarov

If one of them unfolds the flag of the Russian Federation at the ceremony being in 1st place, then yes ...

This is everyone’s decision. But this man must understand what threatens him not only ...

[Makarov]

Their price is already known. Travel and accommodation in Seoul and the opportunity to speak at the Olympics. What do you build a virgin from yourself? And so everything is known ...

This is everyone’s decision. But this man must understand what threatens him not only ...

Will they shoot?

[svp67]

Quote: Makarov

Will they shoot?

Almost ... Every day on the network and on your pages to read that you are a traitor. It’s not easy for them, but here it is. Maybe it’s better and would be shot right away. Why so torture.

[BMP-2]

I think Rodchenkov also knew what he was doing ... And this is definitely not the salvation of the motherland.

[svp67]

Quote: BMP-2

I think Rodchenkov also knew what he was doing ...

And here you can read more. When did he clearly know this? When doping through my sister I haggled when I decided to run away or when "for a barrel of jam and a box of cookies", oh, for a car and a house, I sold offal ...

[BMP-2]

So at each of these stages of degradation he knew: well, would he bargain if he didn’t have enough of it? Would he decide to flip over if he didn’t know that he would not receive a “barrel of jam and a box of cookies” as a reward? Did he know that for his actions he would be despised at home? Maybe he didn’t know, but he probably guessed. Yes, that's just his own selfish interests for him all the same above all else turned out to be ...

[savage1976]

They will take samples and after each round they will take it, and during the descent on the sled from the hill to the pit stop, they slow down and, in the ski jump, they hang to urinate in a jar.

[q75agent]

not in biathlon that's for sure

[osoboye_mneniye]

Quote: svp67

Now part of our population will begin to spy on them, well, they are without a flag and anthem

So we do not have the Union of indestructible free republics now, but Russia is our sacred power.
Do you feel the difference? Where is that hymn worth half the life to put? There was a union of the free, but a sacred power became. From the brotherhood of nations to kings and priests. Are you ready for kings and priests to give half your life?
Well, the flag also let us down. Top white. Below are red. And between them are the gendarmes. This is some kind of mockery ...

[Labrador]

On the one hand it’s clear. BUT !: when people digest the sanctions in silence, many athletes do not even try. It smacks of betrayal in the name of vanity.
This opinion is mine and I do not impose it on anyone.

[engineer74]

Ban on state ideology ...
The result is on the face!

[tchoni]

Vile traitors.

[_Jack_]

It is foolish to think so. For them, this is the same job and livelihood as your job is for you. Moreover, a sports career in sports is very short, for many this is the only chance to participate in the Olympics. In short, do not judge, but you will not be judged.

[Makarov]

One loot on my mind ...

[kepmor]

Well, you so right away ... traitors ... and even "vile" ... not patriotic somehow ...
they are members of putinteam after all ... it is necessary to show "respect" ...

[Anyone]

Our Olympic Committee was caught on the fact that he participated in a certain state doping scheme. The team was suspended. Lighted athletes - suspended. Those who did not eat dope are ready to prove that they are honest athletes at the Olympics. What is their betrayal?
Now, if Russia would officially say that it’s not such a thing - WADA and Maclaren are lying. And we will prove it in court. And the plaintiff will be Russia in the person of its Olympic Committee, which intends in this way to protect the interests of athletes and the honor of the country. Until then (until the court ruling) we officially suspend membership in the IOC and participation in the OI. And our president would have officially announced all this. Then yes - I would be the first to call those who would go to the Olympics traitors.
But here, if anyone had already forgotten, everything was different: Zhukov apologized, Putin had long since openly said about doping, that they supposedly had been overlooked. And recently, in fact, in his speech he sent athletes to the Olympic Games under a neutral flag. Therefore, let them go - they can only wish them success.

[igor67]

most athletes on TV say that they are clean from doping, which really got caught, so did anyone file a cold or what are we waiting for?

[Anyone]

Are you asking me? )) I myself am surprised ... If the employees of RusADA, the Russian Olympic Committee, sports federations, etc. officials forced our athletes to take doping, then these officials (Rodchenkov, Zhukov, Mutko, Stepanov and so on) must be urgently brought to the criminal responsibility for forcing citizens to use some chemicals. This is a real criminal offense. From the point of view of the law, they are not better than klofelinschits))
But since no one is being brought to trial in our country, they themselves do not turn to international courts to protect the rights of athletes, the honor and dignity of government officials of the Russian Federation, etc., I believe that Putin decided to put this whole brakes on. Therefore, what to be indignant is if the president himself actually blessed our athletes to speak without a hymn and a flag. Well, so the flag for him and them ...))

[Karabin]

Quote: Anyone

And recently, in fact, in his speech he sent athletes to the Olympic Games under a neutral flag.

What do you!? How could he do so, so do not give a damn about the scrapie!

[osoboye_mneniye]

Quote: Anyone

Therefore, let them go - they can only wish them success.

Quite to the point. The point of view is fully consistent with the ideology of our society. Every man for himself. They threw you, and you throw.
If the ideology was different, then no one would go, but the sports community would achieve, if not landing, then re-election of the entire sports leadership. I know the athletes who suffered from the doping and the team failed. They behave quieter than water below the grass. Mutual responsibility. Ehhhh ...

[Anyone]

To be honest, today the society is so-so. Pretty bad. And ideology to match him.

[bogart047]

and they can be understood - the peak of the physical form happens once in a lifetime, someone has been preparing for this all his life.

[Gardamir]

they can be understood

maybe it’s possible, only why the leadership has withdrawn from solving the problem, hopes to sit out in the corner, but there aren’t more Crimea to return.

[BMP-2]

If you search well, there will always be a new Crimea!

[BMP-2]

Poor, unhappy athletes: they have the whole meaning of life - at the peak of form, and everything else is meaningless!

[bogart047]

is not it so? They can’t do anything else in life and there’s zero benefit from them. Only for the sake of medals can they tear the veins ...

[osoboye_mneniye]

Quote: bogart047

is not it so? They can’t do anything else in life and there’s zero benefit from them. Only for the sake of medals can they tear the veins ...

Why are you so narrow-minded .. They work as trainers in schools and sports schools - they teach your children to be strong, courageous, learn to overcome themselves, to win. It is expensive. Neither economists, nor managers, nor lawyers, nor bankers, nor dentists will teach this.

[BMP-2]

In fact - you are right, of course, but in form - I think dentists will not understand you!

[osoboye_mneniye]

Yes, a little sloppy happened. This is me in the sense that the profession is fashionable and monetary, but it does not help the cause of youth formation, as opposed to sports figures. I hope that none of the above will be offended by the harsh truth.
The manager himself was, I repent))

[bogart047]

even without these grief heroes I grew up, and nothing, alive. Ordinary trainers can teach all this without an armful of useless glitters.

[Mihanishche]

Traitors! They betrayed not only me personally, but also the memory of fathers and grandfathers! I am sure that it will be necessary to deal with them - let Putin deprive them of their pensions, citizenship, money, everything!

[Gardamir]

but also the memory of fathers and grandfathers

It has long been betrayed, replacing the Red Star, a rag on the Mausoleum, a plaque in honor of the Nazi accomplice Mannerheim, worship of the country's enemy Lgunitsyn, boy Kolya, the president who repeated the "feat" of Gorbachev and Yeltsin, who considered that the flag and anthem are nothing ...

[Karabin]

Quote: Mikhanishche

let Putin deprive them of their pensions, citizenship, money, everything!

People don’t watch TV, they don’t follow the words of the president of the Neutral Federation. Then they write all sorts of garbage. Putin will not only deprive them of anything, but also congratulate him with a medal, and not only verbally, if such a thing happens. Moreover, he will pay for the trip, as well as 15 lyam IOC.

[Vitas]

Defend the honor of the motherland, but without the motherland ... one word - COP (athlete from Russia).

[BMP-2]

They also use the word Russia nekomilfo! COP - "completely isolated p ... dy)? In my opinion, then it will be more accurate!

[Nahum]

These "consonants" at the Olympics are waiting for another portion of national humiliation. They will be raised 3-5 times a night for the "calling of the samples" on the eve of the starts, and then anyway condemned. Everywhere they will be "forgotten". Yes, a lot of things you can think of for athletes "without clan and tribe." "Oh, sport! You - ..."

[BMP-2]

And even more interesting is not what they will do “there”, but how they will be treated “here”! I think this is the next (and, I must admit, this time quite successful) Pentagon plan to split Russian society.

[Karabin]

Quote: BMP-2

I think this is the next (and I must admit, this time quite successful) Pentagon plan

The President clearly states - "In the furnace of such an Olympiad." Athletes accept and I think the vast majority understand this decision. And in the trash plan.

[BMP-2]

Let your words be to God’s ears!

[afrikanez]

Even the athletes descended to the level of officials and ask the IOC for something. It’s not disgusting yourself? Knowing full well that no one will make concessions for Russia.

[osoboye_mneniye]

Quote: afrikanez

Even the athletes descended to the level of officials and ask the IOC for something. It’s not disgusting yourself? Knowing full well that no one will make concessions for Russia.

Athletes people are mostly simple and naive. Our officials deceived them. Now they are turning to their officials. All use them. And fellow citizens scolded. An unenviable fate.
And that they neglected the flag, it was not only them. We have most of these officials. Just the athletes are in sight, and the cunning in the chairs are invisible.
I read here about one deputy in St. Petersburg, what a good person he is - it saves the cultural heritage from greedy developers, etc. And it turned out that his sister was the wife of Chubais))) So trust the people after this ... Everything is completely dear people. Not like athletes, yes ..

[An60]

Also, let them remake their names into neutral ones, for example Postova instead of Stolbov. Whoever guesses that she is from Russia. A sportswoman from nowhere.

[sunzhenets]

Our government once again wiped off after spitting in the face. Athletes and sports officials have shown their patriotism.

From the statement of Sophia the Great:
We talked with all athletes from all winter sports. Most Russian athletes want to participate in the Olympics, the athletes commission supported them. I ask the Russian public to treat with respect and understanding the decision.

I think that many of the Russian public will then make their decision: do not support these games and athletes flying the white flag. I ask that Russian athletes treat our decision with understanding and respect.

[Glory1974]

On the one hand, of course you can’t go. But on the other hand, it will already be a political demarche, and we ourselves assured everyone that sport is outside of politics. And given that Zhukov apologized for the doping, thereby admitting Bach was right, it turns out that we are really all doped to the ears.

[Gardamir]

it turns out we are really all doping to the ears.

What do you think if at the Olympics before Sochi, the Russian team was in 11th place and suddenly, after 4 years, the first? Why did Rodchenkov receive awards and prizes?

[Glory1974]

What do you think if at the Olympics in front of Sochi, the Russian team was in 11 place and suddenly, after 4 of the year, the first?

What are we talking about. It has long been said that the sport of great achievements is the competition of pharmacists.
This time our pharmacists lost

[Mihail55]

It was not worth the first person until the athletes made a general decision to announce their “verdict”! Was it necessary ???? But the “patriots” athletes would have passed the “lice” test! Are they really so short of money? At the world championships earn little? Not everyone plows on advertising? Or do they live in another country? We are a single people, all under sanctions, under the "gentle" control of our beloved Sechin and Medina ... are they special? They should not be infringed in anything? And HOMELAND is in danger ... not for them? It’s a pity, but such a holiday word as OLYMPIAD for me has lost its former greatness ...

[Karabin]

Quote: Michael55

But the “patriots” athletes would have passed the “lice” test!

If the first person behaves like a rag, what to expect from athletes.

[pvv113]

the majority of Russians are negative about the participation of Russian athletes under neutral symbols in South Korea

[Vadmir]

Here is a solution worthy of respect. A real man.

[Makarov]

Handsome. Now the heroes will be those who have not fallen for these smelly gatherings bearing the Olympic Games by an absurd misunderstanding.

[alekc75]

they were not forced to go to sports; how do others live and work ?? what do they want a lot of dough and right away ????

[Vadmir]

Opinion polls show that the majority of Russians negatively regard the participation of Russian athletes under neutral symbols

The opinion of the people is deeply parallel to modern athletes, the main thing is loot. For the loot and the motherland and mother you can sell your own. Not a trace of pride and honor. Russia spat in the face, and they are ready to act under a white rag, if only to pay. And then they will give cars for such a “feat” in the Kremlin, bought with the money of this very people.
Personally, I will not watch the Olympics, I am ashamed.

[Freeman]

Vadmir Today, 12:43 PM
Not a trace of pride and honor. Russia spit in the face

Well, put in the face spat our bureaucrats. It’s just that they are trying to gloss over Russia with this “Kharkotina,” so that it would not be so offensive.
And the fact that they have no "not a trace of pride and honor" - I agree.

[senima56]

I treat "with respect and understanding" ...., but somehow disgusting. I won’t watch the Olympics; I don’t want to see “Russian athletes on the Olympic flag”!

[BLADFROST]

Whether or not to speak is their choice. Whether to root for them or not is my choice. Speak for yourself, but don’t show us, it’s still not interesting! Quietly put yourself in a backpack that you deserve to go home, also quietly. If you have something to brag about, remember that our flag does not warm your shoulders!

[Mountain shooter]

And I would not consider such an option at all ... Go and break everyone. To win all that is possible and impossible ... And the whole world will watch and KNOW, these are Russian athletes ... There will be no others there ...

[albert]

I’m sure it’s not possible to come and break everyone. For a simple reason, they’ll sue. I won’t be surprised if those who went to the Olympics don’t bring anything at all, and there will be wild grass in Western media like “Russians couldn’t do anything without doping!” What’s the point then go there at all ?!

[Antor]

What can be surprised in Russia, in my opinion there is nothing more, the impression is that the rot climbed from all the cracks ... !!! Kneaks in the Bundestag, supposedly our "neutral" athletes, and now here’s the award for the human rights work of L. Alekseeva ... Well, a complete scribe, I just want to ask, and these are our heroes, this is our ...... with whom we take an example !!! ?????

[pvv113]

Quote: Antor

Prize for the advocacy of L. Alekseeva ..

This is her funeral

[garnik]

I think that we should let go of the game, and let them win their medals as athletes from Russia. But in the end, who patriotically acted i.e. to those to whom the honor of the country is higher than medals, to thank with monetary prizes, in proportion to their claiming places at the Olympics.

[maxim1987]

and X5 they’ll probably give them anyway, so God be with him, with a hymn

[clerk theophan]

Quote: Naum

These "consonants" at the Olympics are waiting for another portion of national humiliation. They will be raised 3-5 times a night for the "calling of the samples" on the eve of the starts, and then anyway condemned. Everywhere they will be "forgotten". Yes, a lot of things you can think of for athletes "without clan and tribe." ... "

I caught myself thinking that I would only welcome these actions !! For traitors do not like anywhere and never ...
Yeah ... a generation of modern Vlasovites has grown.

[Gardamir]

As the boy said Kolya, the Germans are not to blame, now the athletes are not to blame, but what is the pride that they will perform without a flag without an anthem? Like I should be proud of these rootless?

[pjbunny]

Their sporting achievements can be respected (I will not come close to such results), but, as individuals, I have contempt for them. Cheer for them, watch the Olympics, I definitely won’t. Even their victory, which I doubt very much, will not cause me any positive emotions. During wars, thousands of people gave their most valuable things — their lives for the sake of victory, and they, for their own sake (and how, all their life they went to a possible victory at the Olympics), will go as scum and beaten dogs. Maybe I wasn’t brought up like that by my parents and society under the USSR, but the honor of the country, its citizens, is higher than my Wishlist and Verbalke.

[Moskovit]

The moans about the fact that they lived for 4 years only for her sake are ridiculous. There are world championships, Europe, various cups, etc. They calmly perform on them. With Russia it is necessary to worry not only 100 thousand and Mercedes for the medal, but also its pain and humiliation.
It was fair or not.
Therefore, it is a shame to them who do not go respect!

[Cxnumx]

I do not brand, because I understand - an athlete can have a peak form only a few years. but I’m not going to look and hurt.

[Makarov]

I don’t give a damn about their peak of form ... they don’t give a damn when a soldier including a flag is ready to part not with a peak of form but with life ... like that I don’t give a damn about them ...

[maverickr]

"..love sir!".
Just don’t let the snot fist into a fist later that they were condemned, or after 2 years they found the next scratches and disqualified them for life.
Everything has a price.

[Alex 2016]

Let them go. But everything is only at their own expense, and upon arrival they have no bonuses, cars, gifts and other things. They did not go to speak for the Fatherland, but for the loot, so let them make money. And it’s not the people’s money, which is stolen by bureaucrats anyway, they receive.

[Alexander S.]

The West applied a sanction to the fans ... in the form of depriving them of the opportunity to see the flag of their native country at the Olympics. And judging by all the athletes, the fans ... they’re going to perform not for us ... not for the country ... but for themselves ... (at the state’s expense, of course ... they’re not fools). Hopefully not coming back. Let them agree with the Saxons ... since they don’t want to.

[kubanec]

after all this shame, I won’t watch the Olympics for sure, I’m kind of neutral at neutral athletes in a neutral form, with a neutral anthem, under a neutral flag, the next time they will be forced to perform under a rainbow flag and in a rainbow shape ......

[Ivan 333]

Once the athletes appear under a neutral flag, and without a hymn, then let the country whose honor they represent pay them for the victory .. And we pay them and are not required to rest!

[Antokha]

Everyone was wondering who they were, these athletes, patriots, or what. Well now we know.

[Toropov]

Dashing 90s
Echoes again.
Russia in Lausanne
They cast out castoffs.

Take the tub
Slop guys.
Bad athletes
No longer soldiers.

Go without banner
Go ahead, Olympians.
You will be smeared with oil
Paper porch.

Bent over, fuck.
In all that they had
Without a hymn they dare.
Did you want this?

No honor, no flag
For the money of courage.
And shame for the medals.
What else did you give?

Honor and conscience for you
Closed story.
In the faces were?
“They cleaned themselves up.”

Let us be told
You do not touch the athletes.
After all, they don’t sleep for a day,
They destroy the veins and veins.

And hymns and flags
- words on paper.
They won’t let me go
Everyone will go to the Vikings.

And at the same time
In Syrian Watch
Gangster seed
Thunder in Deir ez-Zor.

Heroes of Russia
Simple guys
Not everyone has returned.
Goodbye soldiers!

Russian enemies!
There will be no split in us!
I will repay Judah.
There are our people everywhere!

And someone will go ...
The country will not decrease.
One is Victory.
The people will judge everything.

[Radical]

Quote: Segel

Just do not rush to stigmatize them, traitors, they say ... Remember when the West did not go to Moscow, many of their athletes arrived, the same Sebastian Coe took gold, and no one in England called him a traitor ... We will be more adequate, they it’s once in a lifetime, all my life is laid on it, except for my gyms, then they are completely smelling and haven’t seen anything, not fights in asphalt pieces at the disco, not the first kisses with the girl after that, nor the dawn meeting on the river with her ... One Galimov your sport !!! Let them go, and let them tear them all there !!!

We are not the West! In 1939, the whole West "lay" under Hitler! Did we also have to do this? It all starts with such seemingly “innocent” things - why is it bad to perform under a white “rag”? Not a war, after all! But no! The West also tests our leadership, other people on such things — they are capable of sacrificing principles in certain situations, or they will find some excuses for themselves, such as those that we have been hearing for several days!

[Anyone]

Yeah. Instead of getting explanations from Zhukov, Mutko, Medvedev and other officials about how we got into this situation, some sincerely believe that in this episode our people are again heroically fighting against an external enemy. And which of the athletes does not want to fight the “external enemy” at the Olympic Games, but wants to just play in them - that heinous traitor. In fact, the traitors are not the athletes who gathered at the Olympics, but you yourself know who.

[assa67]

but what if they are offered to go at their own expense? .. though the IOC promised to finance something .... to go or not is their choice .... you can talk a lot on this subject: like, the dream of a lifetime, sweat and blood .... to: freeloaders and loafers (curling, for example) .... for me personally, the country's flag and anthem are not empty words, and this is not “cheers-patriotism”, so I won’t watch, but I won’t judge ..someone

[Bakht]

The funny thing is tomorrow. OCD suspended from the Olympics. But it’s the Russian Olympic Committee that will make the “Olympic athletes from Russia” finance. And why did they come up with such a formulation? In vain tried what?

[assa67]

that's about it ... they want to go, let them go at their own expense ... but they still rely on bonuses from the country, which in fact they spat ... I repeat, this is my personal opinion

[Freeman]

Quote: Mikhanishche

Traitors! They betrayed not only me personally, but also the memory of fathers and grandfathers! I am sure that it will be necessary to deal with them - let Putin deprive them of their pensions, citizenship, money, everything!

And what did Putin himself say?
His statement was reminiscent of the children's game “Will you go to the ball?” ("Young Lady Madame")

Yes and no don't say
Do not take Red and Blue with White,
Will you go to the ball?

Ingenious! There is no direct boycott - but the athletes are still traitors!
Or "partisan heroes"?
And CAM, as always, with nothing.

[Conductor]

Samych himself, not to him. He has a war there in Syria, Elections may grandchildren were born. And you give him an OI.

[senima56]

And may Mr. MuDko fly the Olympic flag in front of a delegation of “athletes from Russia”!

[Bakht]

Well, they’ll go. They won’t bring anything. A couple of medals will be thrown to the dog like a bone. Then they will line up on a ruler and hand over to those imported medals that were taken from Russian athletes at the Sochi Olympics. And everyone will be forced to applaud.
Then they say "we were right. Russians cannot win without doping."

[Conductor]

Announce all of our asthmatics. . The asthma epidemic.

[Rostislav]

The data of sociological polls show that the majority of Russians have a negative attitude towards the participation of Russian athletes under neutral symbolism in South Korea.

Not just the majority, but from 66 to 73% according to various polls.

[Bakht]

But according to some data, Putin's rating will go down from 78% to 67%. The right path is ....

[kubanec]

at the elections look at the rating

[Bakht]

Official data 80%. Unofficial 67%. I believe more unofficial. The general trend is a drop in the rating. At the expense of Crimea, he lasted two years. In 2012, upon taking office, the rating was a little over 50%.
Olympics, Jerusalem, the withdrawal of troops. What other “victories” can be recorded?

[Nikolai Grek]

Quote: Bakht

But according to some data, Putin's rating will go down from 78% to 67%. The right path is ....

Putin announces a bike game and forbids all athletes to go there ... there are several "dissidents" who still get to the games !!! Naturally, a scandal for the whole world, replicated by all opponents of Russia !!! I’m sure that many guardians here for the bike, would yell that we had to let everyone in !!!

[Bakht]

What a strange conclusion. Well, a few dissidents would go. What a disgrace? Shame will be at the Olympics now. Have you really not been explained here all the points. And I personally would "scream that they didn’t let me go right."
The IOC Commission will be selected. The composition of the teams (trainers, doctors, massage therapists) will be selected by the IOC. They will dishonor the whole world. They won’t give anything. Russia recognizes all the findings of Rodchenkov, McLaren and others and repents that the country had state support for doping. In this case, lawsuits are annulled. Selected medals for Sochi in a festive atmosphere (necessarily in the presence of "athletes from Russia") will be awarded to others. it will be proved that in Russia they win only with doping. 15 million bucks pay IOC.
This will be a SHAME.

[Nikolai Grek]

Quote: Bakht

Shame will be at the Olympics now.

it was the athletes who made this disgrace ... mind you, Vova didn’t tell anyone that with two hands for a trip to the Olympics ... he just said that they decide ... and then the athletes didn’t have the brains to do it themselves refuse a trip !!! So I’m finally against the trip ... I believe that the collective decision of the athletes about the trip will seriously come back to us !!

Quote: Bakht

What a strange conclusion. Well, a few dissidents would go. What a disgrace?

you do not want to finally look forward !!!!

[Bakht]

Just forward and look ....
So I do not understand you.
And finally, you never know what athletes want. Here IOC has already rejected six. And for life .. And another 46 cases are pending. Where is the righteous anger against the IOC, which "destroyed the meaning of the lifespan of athletes"?

[Nikolai Grek]

Quote: Bakht

Just forward and look ....
So I do not understand you.
And finally, you never know what athletes want. Here IOC has already rejected six. And for life .. And another 46 cases are pending. Where is the righteous anger against the IOC, which "destroyed the meaning of the lifespan of athletes"?

I said about that, when Vova was announced as a boycott, this would have served a very poor service against him and against the country !!! he tactfully granted the right to choice to athletes, which they magically failed !!!! and then they will seriously pay for this disastrous choice ... humiliation is yet to come !!!

[Vadmir]

Not just the majority, but from 66 to 73% according to various polls.

Yes, at least 99,9% of neither sportsmen nor sports officials care about the opinion of any people there. And then, as they wrote right here, these very athletes will become officials and deputies and will rule this very people (however, in such an environment the word people is not held in high esteem, other epithets are used there).

[sharp-lad]

Surnames and faces of faces remember! That would not be wrong when choosing! Show and explain to your little ones your attitude to the "heroes".

[Say]

Athletes are bought and sold as dung.
They have a homeland where they get paid more.

[Conductor]

Only here is the money for victories and other nishtyaki also not for the budget set? Yes? And then something just surrendered, but to the end.

[prior]

And what, does the IOC in the Charter really have the right to strip the national teams of the Flag and Anthem?
Then why such an IOC?

[Makarov]

I would like to know in the face of all the heroes who refused this "honor" to go to these gatherings ...

[Forever so]

Personally, I will not brand anyone. Just in my understanding, pedestrians will now join the power of pederasty. Moral choice is everyone’s personal rubicon. Now it’s clear why the government is so vigorously promoting athletes, ready-for-sale substance, in all its structures.

[Million]

That's right! We must speak to our athletes at the Olympics! And speak so that there is no shame in Russia!
Athletes should not pay for the inaction of worthless officials and politicians

[Bakht]

"We don’t want a situation where Only fifth and sixth numbers will be invited to the Games national team, but no leaders. "
And how are they going to win? Yes, even without their trainers and doctors ...

[Million]

let's see how things turn out.

[Nikolai Grek]

Quote: Million

And to speak out so that it would not be a shame for Russia!

what's the point ?? anyway, then, under some pretext, they will select the medals in a couple of months or years !!!

[Bakht]

I even know the reason why they’ll be taken. Rodchenkov will present irrefutable evidence that the "Olympic athletes from Russia" wore underpants with the symbols of the country. And at night they sang the Anthem under the covers.

[Nikolai Grek]

Quote: Bakht

I even know the reason why they’ll be taken. Rodchenkov will present irrefutable evidence that the "Olympic athletes from Russia" wore underpants with the symbols of the country. And at night they sang the Anthem under the covers.

in principle, if nothing changes after the absurdity on the part of the moka, then they will take away without Rodchenkov ... at the future moment of the selection of medals, the topic with shorts and a blanket will not be shed .... they’ll come up with some new get along with test tubes ... or mistakes in the selection of athletes !!! and further in the future, cowards may be attributed with subsequent "selection" of medals !!!

[Foxmara]

Quote: Million

That's right! We must speak to our athletes at the Olympics! And speak so that there is no shame in Russia!

They won’t give. When it is not the athlete who wins, but the lawyer, ours have no chances, this is not our system and the lawyers are there. Zadornov predicted this by the way.

[rjpthju]

One hundred athletes let the country down because of their ambitions

[Romin]

Bravo liberals!
I can only take off my hat and recognize the effectiveness of your work!
And what about the people... and “people are eating”.
And the athletes weighed it, and if the state doesn’t care (no position other than admitting guilt in state support of doping and whoever wants to go), then we (the athletes), what have we got to lose, have to go. Now the ideology of the state, headed by V.V. Putin - every man for himself!
But with such an ideology, if, God forbid, something gets stirred up with unrest and a coup, none of the people will come out to defend such a system. After what happened, I won’t go. Defending liberals and the liberal government - no, that’s without me.
SHAME V.V. Putin. I'm ashamed of you. Even such small countries that have been driven into a corner, such as the DPRK, Iran, Cuba, do not bend and have a clear position!
It has reached the point that little Hungary indirectly defends the rights of Russian speakers in Ukraine and raises this issue until the departure of the diplomatic mission.
Shame on you. All the words “about proactive strikes, self-respect and the importance of Russia” are zilch and PR!
And I want to say to the citizens of Turkey and Israel - I congratulate you, you have a reason to be proud and this reason is your leaders. Those who do not bow their heads if there is pressure and, if necessary, know how to say: No.
And here a permanent member of the UN Security Council, a country with enormous economic, resource and military potential, at the behest of its president, takes an offended position. It's a shame!

[Bakht]

Here's a small country
http://www.imperiyanews.ru/details/0f70749c-cbdc-
e711-80e7-020c5d00406e
Kosovo athletes refused to compete under a neutral flag

[Giants]

Quote: Romin

It's a shame!

Putin’s spiritual bonds brought results quite quickly, don’t you think?

[K-50]

If athletes decide not to identify themselves with the country that raised them as athletes, then why will Russia again begin to feed them in the literal sense? Pay them scholarships, fees, prizes?
After all, they represent not the country, but their loved ones!!! Why should we CONTINUE these parasites who do not produce an “additional product”, who have forgotten who they represent at the Olympic Games?
Let them start paying for their training and use of sports facilities in full!!! Why should our children PAY for the same thing, although we, parents, already pay for all this by paying taxes!!!

[Radical]

Quote: senima56

And may Mr. MuDko fly the Olympic flag in front of a delegation of “athletes from Russia”!

With Zhukov, take turns!

[bk316]

You won't believe it, they won't be allowed into the stadium...

[Radical]

Quote: bk316

You won't believe it, they won't be allowed into the stadium...

it's a pity!

[yashka12007]

But I don’t want to be sympathetic to these people for whom the flag is just a rag.

[arhPavel]

Quote: RESEARCHER

Only the sick, envious and wretched can condemn, as well as false patriots, lazy people hanging out on the Internet.

The data of sociological polls show that the majority of Russians have a negative attitude towards the participation of Russian athletes under neutral symbolism in South Korea.

The state supports athletes so that they strengthen the prestige of the country with their victories (!!!) at international competitions.
Now our country has been deprived of the opportunity to participate in international competitions, please, dear one, explain to me why our athletes, the citizens of our country, go there? And at whose expense?
Let’s say scientists who have made a discovery or breakthrough, but due to restrictions in the interests of the state are not able to tell the whole world about their achievement, in your opinion, should they also tell everyone about it under a white flag?
Or let’s take a very simple example: I received a maritime education as a profession, also for a long time, 5 years. But after the army I stopped traveling abroad for several years, so should I also run away under the white flag?
Do you think there are few such stories in all countries? So how are athletes different from other people that they can ignore the interests of the state and the opinion of the majority of people in their country?

All people are adults, everyone understands everything... copper pipes are like that...

Well, so their tolerant friends are waiting for them

[Makarov]

at whose expense? They were immediately promised to pay for everything when they said that the Russian Federation would not be allowed in...they were simply bought as Kibalchish...

[Sergey-8848]

At the next Olympics they will offer to perform only with their heads shaved, without panties, castrated, and with tattoos for democracy. And they will agree!

[Overlock]

If the GDP says, then without panties, they will march around Red Square with pink umbrellas and scarves. And behind both the State Duma and the Federation Council

[Overlock]

Kosovo judokas will not take part in the World Judo Masters 2017 competition in St. Petersburg on December 16-17, the coach of the Kosovo team, Driton Kuka, said on his Facebook page. This decision is due to the fact that the Russian Foreign Ministry warned Kosovo athletes that participation in competitions is only possible without the state symbols of the self-proclaimed Kosovo, under the flag of the World Judo Federation.


“Masters without Kosovo! They demand that we in Russia abandon state symbols and participate under the flag of the World Federation - we will not accept this choice!” Driton Kuka said.

[rjpthju]

“Athletes are a disgrace to our country. If only we could learn from the Kosovians, disgraces

[Foxmara]

Quote: Overlock

“Masters without Kosovo! They demand that we in Russia abandon state symbols and participate under the flag of the World Federation - we will not accept this choice!” Driton Kuka said.

Kosovo - Serbia. If they don't come, there's no need.

[Sergey824]

When you read such Olympians, you are amazed! When it's profitable, patriots! And about the lump in my throat and tears hearing the anthem and seeing the flag. And bonuses: money for medals, jeeps, parliamentary positions, leadership of federations. Everything is fine, everyone is happy. But as soon as it is necessary to show a solidary civic position, then everyone is for himself. Therefore, even without an anthem and without a flag, everything rolls on. You will decide who you are with, sports figures. You can't sit on two chairs.

[Town Hall]

Quote: Sergey824

But as soon as it is necessary to show a solidary civic position, then everyone is for himself. Therefore, even without an anthem and without a flag, everything rolls on. You will decide who you are with, sports figures. You can't sit on two chairs.

And with whom should Russian athletes stand in solidarity?. With you personally or with whom?. Are you an athlete and you were not allowed?.. Who were affected by the IOC sanctions besides the athletes themselves?

[Sergey824]

Why did you just snatch the conclusion? What was wrong at first? With whom...? Not with Mutko, but with the country, with those who were suspended for life without evidence.

[Town Hall]

Quote: Sergey824

Why did you just snatch the conclusion? What was wrong at first? With whom...? Not with Mutko, but with the country, with those who were suspended for life without evidence.

How do you personally stand in solidarity with those convicted and sent to the zone? Even if there is not much evidence there?.... Don’t go to work? Do you go on a hunger strike? Do you go with them to the zone voluntarily?.. as a sign of solidarity... Or do you continue to live your life because everyone is responsible for their actions

[Conductor]

Ugh, disgrace, go and speak, but not a word about Russia. And there you will remain.

[Opera]

Quote: BMP-2

I agree. Condemning - it may not make sense, but respecting - for nothing ...

This is spot on! Agree. But tell me now, if they were forbidden to travel by order, what would happen?! But let's go anyway! Only in a slightly different capacity and with other privileges as sports dissidents! Well, and then more... Every nation has a mentality. Mentality is the character of a people. His ideas about what is right and wrong! What is primary and what is secondary! What is good and what is bad finally! Athletes, of course, they train all their lives... And as someone even wrote here, the poor fellows kiss girls every other time and with the permission of the coach!!!))))) But our country is not made up of only athletes! In general, I would say that our athletes are not the most disadvantaged category! We generally have just people - miners, doctors, teachers, military men... They work! Serve the homeland and people! Maybe the athletes won’t believe it, of course, but they do it every day and from morning to evening! And they will probably be surprised, but the life of our miners at the coalface and the fighters in Syria is also the same! In the mentality of our people, such concepts as faith, homeland, mother and honor are primary! That is, they cannot be interpreted depending on the situation and personal interests! And the absence of us as a country at the Olympics is a very unpleasant thing, but not a reason to rush headlong into manure! But the litmus test is very good! Everything is correct, let everyone decide for themselves who they are?! "Everyone chooses for himself a woman, a religion, a path. Whether to serve the devil or a prophet - everyone chooses for himself."

[X Y Z]

Yes, they made their choice knowing full well that the majority of Russian citizens do not accept this choice. That is, they consciously relied on our will with the device. In this regard, it is not very clear why we should respect and understand them. They made their choice, and we have the right to make ours and treat them in accordance with our beliefs. An attempt to connect your decision with patriotism and service for the benefit of the Motherland clearly will not work here. People have already noticed the obvious falsehood of these loud and exalted statements and will not buy them. One thing is not clear - why will there be a mention of Russia on their uniform? If they are traveling as private citizens of who knows what, then the uniform must be appropriate.

[Romin]

There is a proverb: To live with wolves is to howl like a wolf!
Athletes, students of the system that our government created!
What did you want from them;) If their leadership said “go”, the first person of the state, and then all government officials vertically!
If they told us not to go, they wouldn’t go and they would vote no.
It’s as if you’re all from Mars here, having never worked in the “system”.
In the “system”, those who are against the majority are deprived of all privileges - the opportunity to train, medical care, free training, membership in the federation of a particular sport.
And no achievements or minutes without the approval of the vertical will include you in the national team!
Don't you understand this?
Athletes in Russia do not train for their own money!
As they are told, they will do it!
Think for yourself, analyze!
We don’t have individual sports in our country, we have a state sports SYSTEM!
I don’t make excuses for athletes, but put yourself in their place, what will they have to live on and what will be their future if they go against the system. And this is not a question of patriotism, but a question of “security” according to Maslow’s pyramid! The choice is obvious.

[Blaster]

probably one of the few adequate comments. Without hysteria and emotions.

[Esoteric]

The commentator forgot to talk about the athletes who get into the State Duma...
How do the rest of us live, who are not athletes? How do they survive outside the Moscow Ring Road? There cannot be two options here, as in the joke about a man who has no money and his wife and daughter...

[Makarov]

Yes. The choice is obvious. For a traitor it is always obvious. Just like for a patriot. Either this or that and there is no third option. Here you are right. And note that some athletes chose one thing, and some another. This means that for some, the issue of “security”, or rather well-fed security, is not more important than the duty of a patriot. It's that simple.

[rjpthju]

Because of a hundred degenerate athletes, Russia was let down

[bardadym]

How funny.
While the state pays for the education and training of athletes, the people are Russian athletes.
And as soon as that same state begins to be purposefully humiliated, all these athletes instantly turned into rare individuals.
All you can hear is “I trained,” “I spent my life,” “I strived... I... I... I...”
How many athletes voted for “US”? For the country, for the state? Silence.
So, maybe the state doesn’t need this kind of sport, so to speak? Let individuals train at their own expense, travel at their own expense, and don’t dare say out loud that they are Russian athletes.

[SKS762]

But what about the suspended athletes who want to go and do not want to show solidarity with their “brothers”? Or in the love of sports, every man for himself. I suspect that the athletes do not choose for themselves; most likely, they were made an offer that is impossible to refuse. Our officials really want to put a good face on a mediocre game; the decision is most likely made at the very top and influences public opinion.

[selendis]

Quote: SKS762

But what about the suspended athletes who want to go and do not want to show solidarity with their “brothers”? Or in the love of sports, every man for himself. I suspect that the athletes do not choose for themselves; most likely, they were made an offer that is impossible to refuse. Our officials really want to put a good face on a mediocre game; the decision is most likely made at the very top and influences public opinion.

Um, what kind of proposal is this? Yacht and villa? Or will we shoot all your relatives? There is a category of people who are sold, usually female, who love red lights, dark streets and clients with thick wallets. Well, there is honor and dignity, authority, a person - a Russian, a real one, I think - must have it.

[Esoteric]

Quote: SKS762

Our officials really want to put a good face on a mediocre game

Our officials want to "cut off" money... Nothing more... I don't trust our officials. If they had wanted, this Rodchenkov himself would have hanged himself with a cord from a toilet with a flush button even after Brazil. I should have worked, not chewed snot...

[Sergey824]

And a stingy male tear rolled down his ass. That’s why our grandfathers died, but everyone wanted to live. That’s why our Vlasovites are traitors, not fighters against the regime. You notice the difference. There is life there, but here what do they sacrifice for the sake of the Motherland? They didn't kiss the girls...ah - ah.

[Hexagon]

We need to do it differently, if the athletes don’t want to boycott, then we need to lead, and in such a way that we don’t finish it. Even at the official level, the flag and anthem are prohibited. We need to do something smarter - buy out a large sector of the stands - give all our fans there props to create a flag for the entire sector, as well as each one with a player with common controls and speakers. In principle, you can write something on smart phones and buy speakers, the battery will last for five minutes. On command at the awards ceremony, collect the flag and play the anthem + in your voice. The choir should turn out quite well and the MOK with his pin...she will sit in a stinking puddle.

[Million]

The Olympics are the same war! And if the official commanders lost this war, this does not mean that the athletes-fighters should also raise their paws up and surrender. And it doesn’t matter that there is no battle flag, the main thing is victory!

[Esoteric]

Quote: Million

And it doesn’t matter that there is no battle flag, the main thing is victory!

Olympic competitions are more like a knight's tournament, where the strongest is determined. Where both sides have equal opportunities (horse, armor, weapons). And there, victory is determined by a well-aimed blow or a precise swing of the sword. Here, victory will be determined by “fat-assed aunts and uncles” not from our village. Who can give an average score for the purest and best performance. And then it turns out that these Russians can’t do anything without doping. And you will hope for the removal of the banner at the end of the games... At the end of the games, crushed hopes and failed victories will be endured to the sound of Olympic music. Do you still not understand how they are suspended “for life”? Or for the company, based on nationality? Believe in good Ameriad...

[Million]

The Olympics have not yet started, and some have already lost....

[Makarov]

Yes...The Vlasovites thought something like this....

[demos1111]

Yes. Russia has shrunk. He sends athletes under the white flag (I thought they wouldn’t go on their own and the Belarusian brothers would be dissuaded), but here they are such bad guys...
They forgot their history and their principles. What would Ivan the Terrible, Peter the Great, and Stalin have done to these athletes?
They will completely ban me from VO. So with a red mark. But we cannot remain silent. Neither Putin should prohibit going to speak under a white rag. We ourselves must understand how each of us will relate to such athletes.
And therefore I ask
1 announce to the public all the athletes who will go there.
2 announce all flights on which they will return (hour, day, time.)
3 do not interfere with ordinary people, those who do not give a damn about honor, those who spit in the face and will not wipe their face, to meet these Judases as they should in Rus' with “bread and salt”
I hate to walk on the same street with such athletes!!!!

[tochila]

The names of those who refused to participate in this farce should be known!!! The country must know its heroes!!!!

[rumatam]

A SHAME! Here it is, a generation that thinks only about itself, EGOISTS. Such people will not die for their Motherland; they consider their lives above all else. And there’s no need to say - we’re branded, traitors, and so on blah, blah....Do they want to go internationally for their money or should the Motherland still sponsor them? If they are for their own (which is unlikely), let them go, but if they are for the government, then don’t let them in.

[Hexagon]

But this is a very sensible idea. If the country does not try to “lead”, then it should not pay, let the same notorious “neutral flag” pay for the trip and participation :)

[citizen242]

If there was an opportunity, many would leave for their own people and not return like many to the USSR
The Motherland is doing everything, soon it will be 37 and the curtain will be on!
And so there are enemies, ambushes and so on all around. Soon we will have enough agents on the streets.
But the senators will have houses on the Cote d'Azur and haciendas, and we will write off taxes from the richest people.
How much do athletes need? More than half is spent on bureaucrats with them and their entertainment
For a little while, the “Russian House” at the games turned out to be the most hospitable and caviar and vodka and so on

[Sergey824]

By the way, what about your comrades, our dear Olympians? What to do with comrades suspended for life without evidence? Every man for himself? And the state must protect!

[My_log_in]

I don’t think there is a need to blame anyone for anything or attach any labels. I think that it will be quite enough: - do not broadcast; - trip at your own expense; - if they allow, at least at the end, to show the flag and play the anthem - pay the expenses incurred.
And for those who did not go to hold their games 2 weeks after the Olympic Games, the benchmark for the result will be, if there are grounds, the prize money will be paid in full.

[Vadmir]

I think that it will be quite enough: - do not broadcast

It doesn't depend on us. But whether to watch it or not depends!
If the very majority of the people who voted against refuse to watch the broadcasts of the Olympics, this will already be voting in rubles, which is much more sensitive than any polls.
A decrease in the number of viewers will reduce the income of the TV channels that will broadcast, reduce the interest of advertisers, and therefore directly reduce the income of athletes from advertising.
And if you refuse to watch the performances of those athletes who will perform under the white rag at subsequent competitions, then the blow to their wallet may be sensitive. They don’t want to love their homeland, even if they love the money they earn with the help of Russian fans.

[Esoteric]

Even under these conditions, even in this situation, can’t it happen that our athletes will simply be “judged”...Giving low scores, inventing obstacles...A white flag and the absence of an anthem is just the beginning. The only correct thing is that you said that there is no need to accuse everyone unfoundedly. Everyone has their own right to be considered a citizen of the great Russia. Makarevich also sang rebellious songs in his time, but when tested... Let... God be their judge...

[Sergey Averchenkov]

This is the choice of everyone. I made mine a long time ago - I wouldn’t have gone. Well, God be their judge.

[Romin]

Friends, I read all your comments.
Please don't blame the athletes.
They are forced people!
As they are told, so they will do.
We have a state sports system!
If they don't do it right, they'll lose their job! Athletes generally don’t know how to do anything other than sports, and their education is only sports!
Going against the system is the same as writing a letter of resignation!
What do they have to live on! You put yourself in their place - we don’t refuse to buy imported cars, clothes, food, fill up gasoline at shells, we buy imported equipment, computers and software, imported phones - so where does the money from our purchases go - yes, it goes to the West. So, is everyone here ready to give up?! Show your civic position!!! Punish the West!!!
And those who work at enterprises, some of the shareholders of which are Western companies - and science, write a letter of resignation!
Why are you writing all this! Athletes have nothing to do with it! As they were told, so they will do! This is a SYSTEM! Think with your head, not with your emotions!
The decision to go was lowered vertically. The President and members of the government for the especially hard of hearing gave interviews in the media. Drive! This is a decision from above!
Only you all know that we do not have a “good Tsar” and bad boyars - this is one team!
Draw conclusions - and don’t brand an athlete.
This vote was made in order to transfer the vector of discontent from the government to the athletes. Because political strategists again did not prepare this scenario and it is not clear how society will react! There must be a “parsley” on which, in case of failure, you can move the arrows.

[Esoteric]

Quote: Romin

Only you all know that we do not have a “good Tsar” and bad boyars - this is one team!

Yes. We know. We have neither a “good tsar” nor “evil boyars” - this is one team... So let them blow the white flag to the Olympic anthem...

[citizen242]

Let them go.
So you give up money or a job or a profitable trip for which you have been preparing for 4 years.
Then open your mouth.
The same can be said about everything about Syria, who wants to fight for their money and not for ours, etc., etc.

[Esoteric]

Already...I retrained as an electrician to repair overhead lines (22 years) after service, so what? Are you hungry now? No housing? What was it like with those who were removed from groups and “fraternal” republics? And these will not be lost...

[savage1976]

She died like that, and not only this one, but all the subsequent ones. The American Olympics no longer exist for my family.

[Oleg Monarchist]

#FIGOLYMPICS

[ibn.shamai]

Let them go. If they want to endure humiliation, bullying and rudeness from their foreign “friends” in sports, let them go! They will be in derma but with money if they are allowed to win, or they will not be deprived of their medals in a month after finding scratches on the test tubes with samples! The ban on our symbols is only the first stage, I’m sure! My opinion.

[Galan]

Many will go in hopes of getting medals, provided that the strongest Russian athletes are disqualified for life. But they won’t get anything, the West needs to prove that Russia supposedly cannot get medals without doping. Russian athletes are invited as extras to add authenticity to the Western performance. There are still many different methods of discrimination against Russia and its athletes ahead. In my opinion, it’s not worth going, it won’t give Russia anything.

[citizen242]

and the Motherland does not ask to die for it, how much is a dead person worth, what can he do?
One must live and work for the Motherland.

[Makarov]

troll shut the door already or earn your pennies on different branches... you've had enough...

[NKVD]

For the sake of a free Mercedes and a tap on the shoulder from our guarantor, they are ready to carry a condom on a pole.

[Enoch]

"...to participate in the Olympics under the white flag"

Shame with sweet liberal sauce. But we understand what it is called. Verbiage. Parades will also now be under the White Flag. Lord, give us understanding, sinners!

[Esoteric]

I won't try to persuade anyone. I will give just one fact about the Hero of the Soviet Union, Dmitry Mikhailovich Karbyshev:

...the Nazis wrote in their archives: “...This largest Soviet fortifier, a career officer of the old Russian army, a man who was over sixty years old, turned out to be a fanatical devoted to the idea of ​​loyalty to military duty and patriotism... Karbysheva can be considered hopeless in the sense of being used by us as a military engineering specialist" And the verdict of the Nazis: “Send to the Flossenburg concentration camp for hard labor, no discounts on rank or age.”
“On February 21, 1945, I, with a group of 12 captured officers, arrived at the Mauthausen concentration camp. Upon arrival at the camp, I learned that on February 17, from the total mass of prisoners, a group of 400 people was allocated, which included Lieutenant General Karbyshev. These 400 people were stripped naked and left standing in the street; those in poor health died and were immediately sent to the furnace of the camp crematorium, while the rest were driven with batons into a cold shower. Until 12 o'clock at night this execution was repeated several times. At 12 o'clock at night, during another such execution, Comrade Karbyshev deviated from the pressure of cold water and was killed with a blow to the head with a baton. Karbyshev’s body was burned in the camp crematorium.”
former prisoner of war Lieutenant Colonel Sorokin.

I won’t try to persuade those who can still be used...

[Geisenberg]

Well, if they want public disgrace for themselves and the country... Let them get it for themselves... But it’s not good to disgrace the country.

[private person]

Well, yes, and upon arrival they will all get apartments and a BMW as a gift at the expense of taxpayers.

[Trapperxnumx]

Well done to those who will go without being ashamed of anything. For many, this will be a difficult test of themselves, so that in 4 years they can come out to defend their flag without fear.
But those who refused to go because of unfair treatment of the Motherland are also well done. The main thing is what's inside. You can play under the tricolor and be the ultimate egoist, or you can play in the NHL and continue to remain Russian.

[rocket757]

Yes, it rocked our boat. The external wave is not very steep, just mean, but the internal splashing can tilt us steeply.
No, we won’t turn over, but we can scoop up a fair amount of nasty stuff! We are not swimming in clean water, the cesspool is stinking all around.
This is a “simple” choice - for the Motherland, the country, the people, or for the green bucks.

[Vadmir]

Yes, it rocked our boat. The external wave is not very steep, just mean, but the internal splashing can tilt us steeply.

We will survive the external wave, as many of them there have been in our history. But the fact that someone is trying to break through the bottom from the inside can be unsurvivable if you close your eyes to such “pampering”.
Gorbachev managed to sink the entire country from within, and there was no need for an external wave.

[rocket757]

I missed this moment! The hole from the inside is serious. We won’t drown yet, but we’ll drink too much and someone might get completely screwed!!!
I have already said that many have the prospect of repeating the “feat” of the boy Kolya... the consequences will be more than childish.
Maybe there will be someone brave who will tell those sitting on the podium and those marching in front of the podium that the people have not forgotten what pride in their Great Motherland is!!!
There is no need to ban athletes for their dreams, but they must make the choice themselves.

[lazy]

strikebreakers. sold for a jar of jam and cookies. ugh

[Mihail55]

Toropov, thank you very much for the poems!!!! Let's break through!!!

[Sasha_Sar]

I’m wondering how they will do at the opening of the Olympics? I remember the “guarantor” laughed at the “white ribbon people” and compared them to condoms. What now? A crowd of homeless people with downcast faces? When your teammate is disqualified and not allowed to participate in the Olympics, but you are given this permission because your test tube is without a “scratch”. How is that? This is not only a betrayal of the Motherland, but also of friends. You don’t choose your homeland, just like you don’t choose your parents. I remember the words: “Life for the Motherland, Honor to no one.” So, to the honor of gentlemen, “Olympians” or does one time not count?!

[BAI]

Everyone has a choice.

And officials and deputies need to go for free, demonstrate patriotism and get drunk in the “Russia House”.

[16112014nk]

Nothing else could be expected from the “lost generation”.

[rocket757]

It is not lost, it is deceived.

[roma13xz]

I support Russia, athletes from Russia under the white flag are not interesting to me, I won’t watch this crap and this is my choice

[haarte]

purely my opinion

[Angina]

We missed something. I don’t know who is to blame: “is it family”, “is it school”? After all, these are grown children of the Russian Federation. At the competitions, the anthem was played and the country's flag was raised. They grew up with this, and initially they were not what they later became. After all, they could have taken someone else instead. Maybe not as talented, but more humane. But “they” took the place. They contain the result of our labor. There they are - on the pedestal!
One thing we didn’t succeed in: we failed to raise them as people...
For this, they should be deprived of the sports titles of the country they are... If only someone with initiative had been found with a petition, he would have signed it.

[Mimoprohodil]

Should I remind you about the participants in the Olympiads in 1992? By your logic, they betrayed the USSR and competed under the Olympic flag

[Angina]

You are not paying attention: my “story” begins when children - citizens of the Russian Federation - are brought to the gym. In your example, the time frame is different - there are people, but the country is no longer there.

[rocket757]

No need to la-la. Then the country that raised them simply did NOT exist.
For reasons beyond THEIR control.

[Overlock]

The Olympics are now a commercial enterprise. This is not a battle between two systems, as under the Soviet Union, this is not a defense of the honor and dignity of the country. It's just a competition for money. Athletes go there to earn money, work out advertising contracts, and the most important thing for them is to catch the eye of some foreign coaches in order to get into foreign teams. This has nothing to do with the interests of the country.
None of them wants to live on the pension of the average Russian pensioner. And so they have a chance to avoid such a fate. If they stay at home like heroes now, no one will appreciate it. And even if the Internet public applauds them for a while, in a week they will be forgotten about, and they will be left alone with their problems. We all know what it is.
Oddly enough, material problems were solved more fully under socialism. And today it’s every man for himself. We have raised such a society.

They say that the state is preparing Olympians. But what does it invest in our NHL hockey players? Or Elena Isimbaeva, who lives in Monaco? We have been living under capitalism for 27 years, where everything is sold and everything is bought! Welcome to reality. And the way our athletes behave now, and they, apparently, are ready for any humiliation, speaks of the kind of statehood we have built and what it is really worth.
Athletes are now extreme. They just need to survive. This is why they go to the Olympics. That’s why they will go there without a flag, settle in a ghetto, etc. There is no country behind them now. Athletes are not politicians. Outside of sports they are defenseless. And the state left them alone with these problems. Just like everyone else in general. Our state protects only oligarchs. And now we see how those who, since 1991, have been selling their homeland wholesale and retail, or at least did not interfere with this, dare to reproach our Olympians for something.
Lawyer Dmitry Agranovsky.

[Seraphimamur]

I agree, the Olympics are the same commercial event as Eurovision. I don’t watch Eurovision, and I won’t watch this Olympics where Russia will not be represented.

[foreman]

nothing is sacred, just the rustle of bills in your pockets

[Seld]

Come on! Let them go!
Anyway, soon their medals (if any) will be taken away, in the same mock...
Passed already ...

[high]

The main difference between Western countries and Russia:
a person’s right to live, work, start a family, play sports is PRIMARY, and the interests of the country are SECONDARY.
In Russia it is the other way around.... therefore the standard of living of the population of Western countries is high.... for example, rich Russia ranks 90th, next to poor African countries....
The athlete trained for years to get an Olympic gold medal and make a career in life, it is not his fault that sports officials were involved in a crime... he should participate in the Olympics...

[rocket757]

And this is trying to teach US how to live?
It’s funny...however, they themselves allowed such a blasphemous disgrace.