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Most athletes of the Russian Federation expressed a desire to participate in the Olympics under the "white flag"

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The head of the commission of athletes of the Olympic Committee of Russia, Sophia the Great, today announced that the majority of Russian athletes have expressed a desire to participate in the Olympic Games-2018, despite the prohibition of the IOC to use the flag and anthem of Russia.


Recall that according to the adopted IOC regulations, Russians will be able to speak under the flag of the International Olympic Committee and with the status of “athlete from Russia”. There will be no team medal standings for the Russians, as the Games will not feature a single Russian national team at the Games in Pyeongchang.

From the statement of Sophia the Great:
We talked with all athletes from all winter sports. Most Russian athletes want to participate in the Olympics, the athletes commission supported them. I ask the Russian public to treat with respect and understanding the decision.

Also Sophia the Great (famous fencing athlete) said that the Russian athletes had sent a letter to the head of the IOC Thomas Bach to reconsider the decision regarding the ban on the flag and anthem of Russia in Pyeongchang.

Interfax quotes the words of the athlete:
In an appeal to Bach and the IOC about the lifelong disqualification of our athletes, we ask to reconsider the decisions of the Oswald commission, as some athletes have already been punished and served disqualifications and have the opportunity to participate in the ROI according to all IOC rules. Athletes from other countries have such an opportunity. We ask the IOC to be impartial when admitting to the Olympics. We do not want the situation to arise when only the fifth and sixth numbers of the national team are invited to the Games, but there are no leaders.


Most athletes of the Russian Federation expressed a desire to participate in the Olympics under the "white flag"


The data of sociological polls show that the majority of Russians have a negative attitude towards the participation of Russian athletes under neutral symbolism in South Korea.
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  1. Sail
    Sail 11 December 2017 12: 20 New
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    Just do not rush to stigmatize them, traitors, they say ... Remember when the West did not go to Moscow, many of their athletes arrived, the same Sebastian Coe took gold, and no one in England called him a traitor ... We will be more adequate, they it’s once in a lifetime, all my life is laid on it, except for my gyms, then they are completely smelling and haven’t seen anything, not fights in asphalt pieces at the disco, not the first kisses with the girl after that, nor the dawn meeting on the river with her ... One Galimov your sport !!! Let them go, and let them tear them all there !!!
    1. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 11 December 2017 12: 21 New
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      Most athletes of the Russian Federation expressed a desire to participate in the Olympic Games 2018 and under a neutral flag
      Well ... the "citizens of the world" ... tried, practiced ... (at whose expense?) in the end, the statements of the "Wehrmacht" from Urengoy do not seem so unexpected. generation NEXT-ahead, behind the “grandmothers” - that was the meaning of training, and not in the Flag and the anthem ..? "Russia is our neutral power" ... YES? fool eh Vereshchagin ... how you were right: "It's a shame for the Power ...".
      1. The black
        The black 11 December 2017 12: 27 New
        134
        The desire to go to Pyeongchang to the Sabbath organized by the "World Association of Russophobes" is essentially a parade of solidarity with the "Tyumen boy".

        Just do not rush to stigmatize them, traitors, they say ..

        Personally, I will not stigmatize anyone ... it’s their choice and God and the judge, but I won’t look (get sick) either - this is my choice ....
        1. maxim947
          maxim947 11 December 2017 12: 28 New
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          In this situation, any decision is losing for the country, they drove us into a corner, and it doesn’t matter who stepped in there, dimly or someone else, the situation would in any case be exactly the way it is now. But I would not go, somehow dumb ... this would at the same time support athletes who were illegally suspended
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            1. Andrey K
              Andrey K 11 December 2017 12: 55 New
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              Quote: RESEARCHER
              Only sick, envious and miserable, and even false patriots, lazy people sticking out on the Internet can condemn. And a lot of other critics appeared here

              They can approve the athlete’s performance on their own behalf, without a flag, coat of arms or anthem ...
              can only sick, envious and wretched, and even false patriots, lazy people sticking out on the Internet. And a lot of other critics appeared here

              My friend, who are you, hang tags negative
              Behave more correctly and express an opinion on the article, and not on the mental abilities of those who disagree with your position ...
              Healthy, not envious, not flawed, true patriot, working, not sticking on the Internet You are our laughing
              1. Vladimir16
                Vladimir16 11 December 2017 13: 03 New
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                At the Olympics, I support Russia. For those who speak under the Russian flag. If there are none, then there is no one to root for. So it makes no sense to watch.

                No one has driven me into a corner, as some write.
                They didn’t bend down the country, not the inhabitants, but specific athletes. Where is the line of these athletes? If the IOC orders everyone to become pederasts, will it stop? Or "European values" above all?
                If an athlete does not have the willpower to demonstrate our flag, then this athlete is worthless. So he went there for the dough. In that case, let him ride at his own expense.
                Business, nothing personal. am
                1. Alena Frolovna
                  Alena Frolovna 11 December 2017 14: 25 New
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                  Not the merit of being white
                  Not dignity - fair-haired.
                  It is very difficult to be brave.
                  It’s very easy to be a coward.
                  Who did not betray Russia
                  For my own glory
                  Knows: it's hard to be strong.
                  Knows: just being weak.
                  Knows: hard to live big

                  It’s easier to live carefully:
                  Good - difficult and difficult
                  And unkind - easy.
                  People of bold stature -
                  We smile sadly:
                  Of course, it’s not easy for us,
                  Not easy...
                  But not infamously!


                  1949, Nikolay Panchenko
                  1. Tatyana
                    Tatyana 11 December 2017 19: 18 New
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                    Vladimir16
                    Bent .... specific athletes. Where is the line of these athletes? If the IOC orders everyone to become buggers, will it stop?
                    How well you said! Hit your question at the very point! Definitely for the sake of money and fame they will become!
                    Bach was wrong - he could boldly ask for concessions from our globalized athletes-marketers much more than he requested from them! All these athletes with their souls are no longer Russian citizens, but “citizens of the world” - they are scratching themselves at the fence of Europe and the United States so that they are only allowed to go there. After the Olympics, they will all be sold for the cordon. You will see!
                    If an athlete does not have the willpower to demonstrate our flag, then this athlete is worthless. So he went there for the dough.
                    Well, our athletes do not even want to admit to this, but the truth is that way!
                    1. Tatyana
                      Tatyana 11 December 2017 19: 52 New
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                      Russians and athletes must consider one very important SCREAMING circumstance!
                      First of all. The decision of the Russian athlete to participate in the OI-2018 does not mean that a specially selected IOC commission will give him permission to do so. This commission will “clean” promising athletes from Russia in full as a continuation of its policy to exterminate Olympic victories on the part of Russian athletes. I agree, the athlete agrees, but the IOC can "ride" it and not let it go to the OI-2018.
                      Second. Moreover, the IOC and WADA, by their decision, did not allow OI-2018 not only some individual athletes and officials there, but did not allow the entire RUSSIAN TEAM, including officials, doctors, trainers of our athletes, cooks, lawyers ... etc. What FOREIGN personalities from this RUSSIAN team personnel will be provided to our athletes by the IOC and will they be at all? This is an open question!
                      But the most important thing is another! Namely.
                      The IOC and WADA set for a similar participation of athletes from the Russian Federation in the OI-2018 EXTREMELY PROVOCATIVE condition.
                      Athletes from the Russian Federation will be admitted only if the Russian Federation admits the conclusions of WADA and the rechecking commission of WADA results from the IOC as CORRECT.
                      For 3 of our athlete has already filed a lawsuit against WADA and personally against McLaren in a court of general jurisdiction for a lie with claims for the restoration of honor and dignity with compensation for monetary compensation for moral damage. These claims have not yet been accepted by the court. But there are 22 people of such Russian athletes who seem to have already filed with the sports court as part of the IOC structure! In this court, our athletes will not gain anything, but they have the right to sue GENERAL jurisdiction.
                      Therefore, the requirement of the IOC and WADA from the Russian Federation to recognize the WADA results on doping tests as correct as the MAIN condition for the admission of athletes from Russia to the Olympics-2018 is nothing more than an attempt by Bach, McLaren, Rodchenkov and others to avoid liability in the court of general jurisdiction the lawsuit of our athletes removed from the Olympic Games. RF can not miss this opportunity! No way!
                      In addition, the condition for the admission of our athletes is also penalties in the form of $ 15 million (billion?) That the Russian Federation must pay the IOC before the start of the Olympics-2018.
                      We need this money in courts with the IOC and WADA.
                      If the Russian Federation agrees to such conditions, then goodbye to our sovereignty before WADA and the IOC. While the Russian Federation can really put the IOC officials not just in place, but demand the reform of the IOC and WADA.
                      Otherwise, our athletes and Russia will always be protected in their rights from the arbitrariness of the pro-American IOC and WADA in general NEVER and in ANY legal way!
                      Sovereign Russia cannot go for it! Only her traitors will go for it!
                      1. Tatyana
                        Tatyana 11 December 2017 20: 07 New
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                        Another thing to pay attention to is that the IOC is a PRIVATE office, and not an international organization of states such as the UN.
                        The IOC is, in theory, a private nightclub for organizing public holidays, when it works out the order of its richest customers and everything is built on the profit of the institution. At the same time, if the customers of the holiday told the owners of the club not to let those and those guests go on the holiday, then their customer’s request will be readily fulfilled!
                        I repeat - IOC is a private pro-American supposedly "non-profit" organization.
                        Therefore, the IOC can be completely dismissed due to violations by the IOC officials and the insignificant in the legal sense of the IOC Charter regarding the non-observance of the rights of athletes and countries by the IOC. And create another IOC based on the observance of the rights of athletes in accordance with international law.
                        Then Russia will not need to be afraid that its athletes, due to the boycott of OI-2018, will not get to the next two OIs.
                        Well. our brains need to think and calculate their actions on 2 steps forward!
                2. Krabik
                  Krabik 11 December 2017 15: 45 New
                  +2
                  IOC orders everyone to become pederasts


                  If a person dies his whole life in sports and a trip to the Olympics, then of course he will become a bugger, as one comrade from Hollywood said, “Once a pederast”%)
                  1. insular
                    insular 12 December 2017 05: 40 New
                    +4
                    Quote: Krabik
                    If a person dies his whole life in sports and a trip to the Olympics

                    Here it is not necessary about "ruined life". Do you feel sorry for them now?
                    Each person ruins life at school, someone further in the technical school, someone in general then goes to the university and the army too. And at the same time they go in for sports and prizes in Russia are also taken by masters of sports (and how many CCMs and youthful and adult ones), and then they leave for a family and work for 30 thousand and this is not the worst option. And the work, you know, happens oh how unhealthy. Someone at the same time, already working and participating in sports and athletics events, and the TRP passes. This is a sport, this is the life I gave to sport and the country.
                    And someone does half of all this and continues for the state. account (read at the expense of those about whom I wrote above) run jump and ride.
                    Poor they are poor ...
                    Without a flag - they are nothing more than a punks from the gateway. Let them do what they want, but you don’t need to shame those who support the Russian team, and not the athletes from Russia.
            2. Varyag_0711
              Varyag_0711 11 December 2017 12: 57 New
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              RESEARCHER Today, 12:48 ↑ New
              Only sick, envious and miserable, and even false patriots, lazy people sticking out on the Internet can condemn. And a lot of other critics appeared here
              Oh how? Which of you will be with us?
              Maybe we won’t condemn, but I’ll definitely despise them. They go there not to honor Russia to defend, but for the loot. They do not care about the honor of Russia, they rubbed it with their decision. What will they achieve there? Another humiliation? Let them go. But when the medals were again taken away from them, let them not cry, they knew what they were going to. After they agreed that they would wipe their feet, after knowing what refereeing will be there anyway they go there to play, according to obviously losing rules, with Western athletes who use dope buckets in the open ... Well, well .. .!
              And don’t tell me that they’ll carry the national anthem and the flag of Russia in their heart, the same damn partisans were found for me.
              1. RESEARCHER
                RESEARCHER 11 December 2017 13: 03 New
                +3
                I'm definitely not yours. No need to go into sports, not understanding what it is.
                And thank you for saying that I didn’t write worse about YOU.
                1. Varyag_0711
                  Varyag_0711 11 December 2017 13: 08 New
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                  RESEARCHER Today, 13:03 ↑
                  I'm definitely not yours.
                  I already understood that!
                  No need to go into sports, not understanding what it is.
                  Well, of course, as a candidate for master of sports in volleyball, can you at least understand something in sports ?! laughing
                  1. 97110
                    97110 11 December 2017 21: 25 New
                    +3
                    Quote: Varyag_0711
                    Well, of course, as a candidate for master of sports in volleyball, he can at least understand something in sports

                    Mr. doesn’t mean vulgar volleyball, but advanced bugging of dough. The example of Gorbi, who cut down the dough and for him nothing, nothing, inspires Mr.. Yes, for such grandmas ... and what are they? I remember plywood over Paris. Well, I guess the budget will pay for the tickets. And who will feed them, the sick ones?
                2. Andrey K
                  Andrey K 11 December 2017 13: 09 New
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                  Quote: RESEARCHER
                  I'm definitely not yours. No need to go into sports, not understanding what it is.

                  I introduce myself - a master of sports in fencing (trained in the Dynamo sports community), retired police lieutenant colonel. Transnistria (urgent) and both Chechen companies are behind.
                  Judging by your nonsense - I'm lazy, not healthy (wretched), I don’t understand in sports and I'm not a patriot ...
                  You above the post doused the members of the forum (including me) with dirt. You really are not ours, because OURS are responsible for your words ...
                  Accurate cornering, your tongue is your enemy hi
                  1. RESEARCHER
                    RESEARCHER 11 December 2017 13: 19 New
                    +2
                    It’s even good that I hooked YOU. You should not be too dubious to accept what I have said. But as for sports, here you are wrong.
                    1. Andrey K
                      Andrey K 11 December 2017 13: 29 New
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                      Quote: RESEARCHER
                      It’s even good that I hooked YOU. You should not be too dubious to accept what I have said. But as for sports, here you are wrong.

                      You are too much obsessed with yourself and overestimate your abilities lol
                      You didn’t understand anything - I’m just in the correct form, I tried to bring you to life and call your colleagues to respect ... hi
                      As for sports - only a homeless person can speak without a flag and coat of arms, without a hymn - not a patriot, but a traitor under someone else's flag - negative
                      This is my private opinion, which I voiced, but unlike you, I did not brand anyone who disagreed ...
                      1. RESEARCHER
                        RESEARCHER 11 December 2017 13: 56 New
                        0
                        I repeat again. Write personally, and I will try to help you.
                      2. a.sirin
                        a.sirin 11 December 2017 14: 52 New
                        +1
                        Those. An is a traitor ...
                      3. Sasha_Sar
                        Sasha_Sar 11 December 2017 16: 44 New
                        +3
                        I subscribe to every word hi
                  2. dr.mel51
                    dr.mel51 11 December 2017 13: 22 New
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                    And in war, you too, with a white flag, could run
                    1. Andrey K
                      Andrey K 11 December 2017 13: 46 New
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                      Quote: dr.mel51
                      And in war, you too, with a white flag, could run

                      Respected page lieutenant of the reserve of the Air Force and Air Defense specialty pilot engineer (received at the institute and were not a day in the army)You are not acting like an officer. To leave.
                      You can immediately see the specialist in wars, where they run with white flags laughing
                      The topic of the article is not my modest person. hi
                      1. dr.mel51
                        dr.mel51 20 December 2017 12: 17 New
                        +1
                        Firstly, they’re wrong that they didn’t serve as starling right after graduation, and secondly, I had a specialty related to the risk to my life. In connection with the accident and the loss of flight health, further service did not work out, but I do not cry and do not take offense at home.
                        And the example with white flags I addressed no longer to you but to the athletes
                        which, as it were, are also at war on their front, all the more so at the present time.
                3. Sotskiy
                  Sotskiy 11 December 2017 13: 58 New
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                  Quote: RESEARCHER
                  No need to go into sports, not understanding what it is.

                  So maybe "cheat" us, dull? And for one tell us about "public-private partnerships" in sports, investors, profits, kickbacks, "contractuals" and generally about the structure of our sports business. Why do we have 50% of legionnaires running around in our football, instead of developing domestic youth schools? So where in all this is sport itself in the current realities?
                  Are we all integrating into globalization, even with a carcass, even with a scarecrow? Well, that’s the result of globalization, why do we need a flag and a hymn if we are all now “universal people and citizens of the world”? The main thing now is a personality, an individual, no matter what beliefs you have, but not as a national community represented by the state. And if so, then our coordinate system is just trying to take the rank of "equal partner" in the global system, but for some reason it is not taken there on equal terms, despite all the apologies and penances of Kolenek, Mutko and Zhukov?
                  Athletes, however, fell under the “press” of the public, in contrast to the ideologists of this system, only because they are public figures. This is like artists, Akhejakova blundered about "forgiveness for everything", where is she now? So it is with the athletes: they supported the current system of “universal humanity” in which they were generally educated, so why be surprised that most of the “not universal people” of the country did not understand you?
                4. rjpthju
                  rjpthju 11 December 2017 14: 25 New
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                  OK. Don’t confuse sport with the Motherland, Researcher. !!!
                5. Skarpzd
                  Skarpzd 11 December 2017 14: 45 New
                  +4
                  in the distant past there was a CCM skiing. naturally I don’t understand a damn thing in sport.
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              2. Hoc vince
                Hoc vince 11 December 2017 15: 57 New
                +8
                The Times columnist Giles Smith has announced a comic book contest among readers of the British newspaper.
                “This year, our traditional Christmas competition will be to create for the“ Olympic athletes from Russia ”a suitable standard under which they can compete without any discomfort,” he says ironically. - We will send the best options to the IOC. Who knows, maybe when February comes, it is you who will enjoy watching at the opening ceremony how several, probably embarrassed athletes, put themselves ahead of you on the arena. ”
            3. GRF
              GRF 11 December 2017 13: 14 New
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              Quote: RESEARCHER
              Only sick, envious and miserable, and even false patriots, lazy people sticking out on the Internet can condemn. And a lot of other critics appeared here

              The word "ask mok" in the article sounds more than once.
              So, if he hears a mok, then well done, if not, then it means that you rather poorly ask ... I think akhidzhakova will teach how to ...

              And it’s embarrassing for the state that an alternative sports show cannot get into a fool, and forces you to make unpleasant decisions ...
              Where is the democrats choice? Where is the freedom, liberals?
              Somewhere, for what country, about ...? About cheaper, however ...

              I remember how they cut the budget of one indecent organization, so we were asked back ...
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              1. scrap123
                scrap123 11 December 2017 13: 22 New
                +2
                RESEARCHER
                Only sick, envious and miserable, and even false patriots, lazy people sticking out on the Internet can condemn. And a lot of other critics appeared here
                1. scrap123
                  scrap123 11 December 2017 13: 23 New
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                  Here are people like you in difficult times and throw a white flag
                  1. RESEARCHER
                    RESEARCHER 11 December 2017 13: 33 New
                    +1
                    Write in person, and never get personal, you are our saint.
                    1. Krabik
                      Krabik 11 December 2017 15: 55 New
                      +1
                      sick, envious and miserable, and even false patriots, lazy people sticking out on the Internet and many other critics who appeared here


                      Not all of you condemn here on the site.

                      Money doesn't smell!
            5. rumatam
              rumatam 11 December 2017 14: 57 New
              +3
              whose will you be?
            6. Stas157
              Stas157 11 December 2017 15: 36 New
              +7
              Quote: RESEARCHER
              Only sick, envious and miserable, and even false patriots, lazy people can condemn sticking out on the internet.

              That is, you judge, I understand?
            7. lazy
              lazy 11 December 2017 16: 28 New
              +5
              can be supported only by those who, for the sake of ghostly blessings, are ready to betray their dull gvno, latent relatives
          2. Gardamir
            Gardamir 11 December 2017 13: 12 New
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            they drove us into a corner
            Have you ever played chess? We were shouted from every iron with cunning plans and geniuses of foreign policy, here are the results of his policy, but not yet evening.
            1. Svetlana
              Svetlana 11 December 2017 16: 25 New
              +5
              Quote: Gardamir
              they drove us into a corner
              Have you ever played chess? We were shouted from every iron with cunning plans and geniuses of foreign policy, here are the results of his policy, but not yet evening.

              I'm afraid it’s evening, but night is still ahead.
            2. Overlock
              Overlock 11 December 2017 16: 31 New
              +2
              famous mnogohodovochki, which flaunted many euphoric personalities
          3. Burbon
            Burbon 11 December 2017 13: 36 New
            +1
            Quote: maxim947
            But I would not go, somehow dumb ... this would at the same time support athletes who were illegally suspended

            and I would go with photographs of those who were illegally suspended (on jackets, T-shirts) and die for them and for their homeland, anthem and flag
          4. rocket757
            rocket757 11 December 2017 15: 48 New
            +6
            The unity of the people and their athletes is worth a lot.
            We do not have a private sport, they didn’t say Schaub ... there are exceptions, but they are few.
            So they want to go. let him back but we no longer need them.
            If commerce, well, say so - We are the people of the world -
            we have enough der. everyone and from bohemia, also sports here, too much!
          5. Nikolai Grek
            Nikolai Grek 11 December 2017 23: 57 New
            +1
            Quote: maxim947
            In this situation, any decision is losing for the country, they drove us into a corner, and it doesn’t matter who stepped in there, dimly or someone else, the situation would in any case be exactly the way it is now. But I would not go, somehow dumb ... this would at the same time support athletes who were illegally suspended

            Yesterday I heard an interesting thought that Vova did not knowingly say that they wouldn’t hinder .... if the president announced a bike, there would be a couple of dozen athletes who would rush there anyway, and that would be grandiose the scandal used by liberals and other evil overseas against the country and the authorities !!! wassat wassat wassat laughing laughing laughing
        2. Vend
          Vend 11 December 2017 13: 14 New
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          Quote: Black
          The desire to go to Pyeongchang to the Sabbath organized by the "World Association of Russophobes" is essentially a parade of solidarity with the "Tyumen boy".

          Just do not rush to stigmatize them, traitors, they say ..

          Personally, I will not stigmatize anyone ... it’s their choice and God and the judge, but I won’t look (get sick) either - this is my choice ....

          I will not watch the Olympics either.
          1. Azazel
            Azazel 11 December 2017 14: 05 New
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            I will not watch the Olympics either.

            and what to watch then ?? how does some Vasya want to show himself ??
            why should I root for some Vasya and Fros ??
        3. Nyrobsky
          Nyrobsky 11 December 2017 13: 56 New
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          Quote: Black
          The desire to go to Pyeongchang to the Sabbath organized by the "World Association of Russophobes" is essentially a parade of solidarity with the "Tyumen boy".

          Here is a verse by Yunna Moritz - in the topic about athletes from Nowhere.
        4. Azazel
          Azazel 11 December 2017 14: 00 New
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          Personally, I will not stigmatize anyone ... it’s their choice and God and the judge, but I won’t look (get sick) either - this is my choice ....

          many will do the same, including myself ...
          I am surprised by these athletes, as people, what they have in mind ...
          after all, it is already known that they were separated from the rest of the athletes (it seems like they were lowered in prison), they will live somewhere out of the way, it is clear that refereeing will be similar to Russophobic ...
          do you really want to humiliate yourself in order to go ??
          but what kind of media resource was raised for the trip to the Olympics, almost like Putin’s election !!!
          Well, this is understandable, there is no Olympics, there is no broadcast, which means there is no advertising and the media on TV are losing money ... but then there must be brains !!!
          to win means under a neutral flag, but they will lose, like the Russians!
          and most importantly, neither honor nor respect will earn in either Russia or other countries ....
        5. Bulrumeb
          Bulrumeb 11 December 2017 14: 09 New
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          Just do not rush to stigmatize them, traitors, they say ..

          They were given a choice, they made it. Vlasovites also seemed to be for their homeland ...
        6. not main
          not main 12 December 2017 00: 19 New
          +1
          Quote: Black
          Just do not rush to stigmatize them, traitors, they say ..

          Personally, I will not stigmatize anyone ... it’s their choice and God and the judge, but I won’t look (get sick) either - this is my choice ....

          I will neither look nor hurt (unlike Lillehammer), but the athlete has two olympiads on his strength! For which he had been preparing all his life! And to deprive him of this opportunity is simply not fair! I repeat, I’m watching and I won’t get sick !!! Threat I almost missed! I won’t watch, but I’ll be rooting for Belarusians!
      2. Andrey K
        Andrey K 11 December 2017 12: 28 New
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        Porridge and confusion ...
        This is of course the athletes' business ...
        On the one hand, yes - an athlete, all his life he sought and so on and so forth ...
        And on the other - they trained at the expense of the state, coaches trained in government institutions, the work was paid by the state ....
        What the hell, when this state begins to humiliate, athletes suddenly became individuals, and not part of the state, our society ...
        How does it appear under someone’s flag !!! ???
        Where is their mother, their honor and pride ...
        It’s the same as me, I was condemned somewhere on a far-fetched pretext, and my son said that he had no relationship with me and would generally live under a different surname ...
        Vile ...
        This, of course, is exclusively my personal opinion ...
        1. BMP-2
          BMP-2 11 December 2017 13: 02 New
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          I agree. Condemning - it may not make sense, but respecting - for nothing ...
        2. Gardamir
          Gardamir 11 December 2017 13: 14 New
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          This is of course the athletes
          Yes, this is a matter of neutral athletes, a neutral country. Russian athletes will not go. And our government is neutral if it is silent and rejoices for the white flag.
        3. Bulrumeb
          Bulrumeb 11 December 2017 14: 16 New
          +9
          This is of course the athletes' business ...
          On the one hand, yes - an athlete, all his life he sought and so on and so forth ...

          Yes, but for example, pensioners also plowed their whole lives, striving for a better life. What the vast majority of them got all we know. But they don’t fight in hysterics, although they could have been understood. And Olympic scholarships will not be thrown to them, because there is no money, and no one will accept them in EdRo and will not give a place in the Duma.
      3. dorz
        dorz 11 December 2017 12: 28 New
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        Opinion polls show that the majority of Russians have a negative attitude to the participation of Russian athletes under neutral symbols in South Korea

        Kadyrov, by the way, forbade athletes from Chechnya to participate in the Olympics.
        1. forty-eighth
          forty-eighth 11 December 2017 12: 54 New
          +7
          And who is this famous Chechen athlete? Biathlete? Hockey player? Bobsledder?
      4. stas-xnumx
        stas-xnumx 11 December 2017 12: 33 New
        12
        That's just the point, as the question touched the dough, all the points were settled ... I agree, it's a shame, we also ask them to reconsider, but we wouldn’t unanimously go, there would be a blow to their pocket ... They would think for the first time, and so, it turns out, they gave us their faces, and we also ask for forgiveness ....
      5. Sail
        Sail 11 December 2017 12: 52 New
        +4
        Yes, not for grandmothers, Andrei Yurievich, but for the meaning of their whole life-Let everyone tear, here is the best answer to Lord Curzon will be. wink
        1. savage1976
          savage1976 11 December 2017 14: 29 New
          11
          And in sledding the meaning of life? For my children at the age of 5 this was the meaning of life, for me now my children are the meaning of life, and not skating, sledding, skiing. Weak meanings of life in people of the nation however.
          1. Dart2027
            Dart2027 11 December 2017 23: 20 New
            0
            Quote: savage1976
            And in sledding the meaning of life?

            There isn’t for an ordinary person, and even for those who simply go in for sports, too, but those who are preparing for the Olympics are different here - for several years they have essentially lived only for this. I do not presume to judge them.
        2. Nitochkin
          Nitochkin 11 December 2017 18: 44 New
          +4
          Blessed is he who believes. Are you sure they will be allowed to win? Or they will first give a medal, and then, in a year, another, they will give a pissing Wad rag on the face of the face.
      6. marline
        marline 11 December 2017 12: 59 New
        +2
        Quote: Andrew Y.
        tried, trained ... (at whose expense?) in the end ... for the "grandmothers" - that was the meaning of training ...

        Really for yours? Considering that many of them have been training over the hill for years, do you think they were sent money from the budget of the Russian Federation? And yes, they work out the loot that has been invested ... Such is la la vie ...
        This USSR could afford to ban and boycott, then the athletes were really preparing for the state account ... now, alas, ah ...
        1. Hlavaty
          Hlavaty 11 December 2017 13: 12 New
          20
          Quote: merlin
          Really for yours? Considering that many of them have been training over the hill for years, do you think they were sent money from the budget of the Russian Federation?

          Ultimately, due to ordinary Russians. Even if this money is not from the budget, then it means money from the oligarchs, "honestly stolen" from the people. Or will you say that one of the athletes worked part-time at a construction site for his support?
          1. marline
            marline 11 December 2017 13: 33 New
            +3
            Quote: Hlavaty
            Ultimately, due to ordinary Russians.

            And of course, you forgot about prize payments. Although, all this is talk about nothing, the main thing is that there is no single salary for athletes playing in the team - this is a fact ... This is not for the USSR.
        2. Nemesis
          Nemesis 11 December 2017 23: 38 New
          +5
          In the USA, no one gives the athletes either apartments or state prizes or Mercedes ... Let them go to the factory to work hard, if they don’t like the bulldo to drive in sports for a lot of money, which they do not pay to the locksmiths for a year ... They worked there ... Let go to the mine to work, they will understand what real work is
      7. ioan-e
        ioan-e 11 December 2017 13: 00 New
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        I fully support! At the expense of the trip, let them go at their own expense, and then stop spending budget money on them, let them knock over the hill and train anywhere and for anyone's money.
      8. tomket
        tomket 11 December 2017 13: 31 New
        12
        Quote: Andrey Yurievich
        well ... "citizens of the world" ... tried, trained ... (at whose expense?)

        Well, we have long been some individuals, after the failed performances, both personal and in the national teams, have stated that athletes owe nothing to anyone, and if the fans think they have something there, it’s their problem. This supposedly purely their own business. Our priority is personality, which country? What are you speaking about?
        Quote: Andrey Yurievich
        "Russia is our neutral power" ... YES?

        We have partners around. Well, think about wiping our feet, for the first time in our lifetime?
      9. Mar.Tirah
        Mar.Tirah 11 December 2017 13: 40 New
        +7
        What do you want from professionals who make money from this? They have their own closed organizations (federations), their own roof. They pay, they pay. Business, and patriotism, you know, things are incompatible. There’s no such thing as a folk sport now. Destroyed together with the Union. Ugh !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
      10. Sergey53
        Sergey53 11 December 2017 14: 26 New
        +3
        What did we want? Patriotism, the concept of Homeland, heroism, as if secretly canceled by liberoids. You listen to Chubais, Kudrin, Gref and their entire state-owned company. And free textbooks from Soros? What did they preach and preach? Money is at the forefront. And decency, honesty, patriotism turned into nothing. So that.....
      11. a.sirin
        a.sirin 11 December 2017 14: 55 New
        +1
        Ok, we’ll refuse to participate ... You’re flying from another 2 Olympics - these are the laws.
        After 8 years in the country there will be no sport as such. What is it like?
        1. Alekseits
          Alekseits 11 December 2017 15: 44 New
          +5
          Do not confuse warm with soft. This is in the case of a boycott of the Olympiad COUNTRY, there is such a punishment. But the country did not declare a boycott
        2. rocket757
          rocket757 11 December 2017 15: 51 New
          +9
          The people will remain in the country!
          And there will always be something to be proud of.
        3. albert
          albert 11 December 2017 17: 24 New
          +3
          Quote: a.sirin
          After 8 years in the country there will be no sport as such. What is it like?

          For some reason, the Union, after the boycott of the Olympiad 84, four years later took first place in the medal standings and nothing. But we still have the sport. World championships and continental championships have not gone away and no one is going to remove us there.
          1. a.sirin
            a.sirin 11 December 2017 20: 10 New
            +1
            Then there was no this law
        4. Alf
          Alf 11 December 2017 22: 09 New
          +2
          Quote: a.sirin
          After 8 years in the country there will be no sport as such.

          Why do you think so ? Children go to sports not to become a world champion, but for their pleasure and benefit to.
        5. sharp-lad
          sharp-lad 11 December 2017 22: 16 New
          +2
          Sport in the country is when citizens and their children do it, and not individual citizens!
      12. rumatam
        rumatam 11 December 2017 14: 56 New
        +1
        Mercedes will also require for medals. http://www.interfax-russia.ru/Center/pressrel.asp
        ? Id = 852926
        for some reason these merci did not receive.
      13. LSA57
        LSA57 11 December 2017 15: 25 New
        20
        Quote: Andrey Yurievich
        "Russia is our neutral power" ... YES?

      14. vfqjh
        vfqjh 11 December 2017 18: 07 New
        +7
        How I agree with you. Talking that this is the only chance in their life I consider the excuse of cowardice, the guys who in the war, in general, have no chances and guarantees, and no grants either. And they also have only one life.
      15. Igor V
        Igor V 11 December 2017 19: 47 New
        +5
        "... You may not be an athlete, but you must be a citizen ..."
        Forgive me, Nikolai Alekseevich, that he redid his verse, but, I think, the meaning in the poem was exactly that.
      16. Michael67
        Michael67 12 December 2017 03: 34 New
        0
        I will add. Does the generation nekst, the part that is going to go, understand that the whole west will publicly and with impunity wipe everything they want to wipe about them? And it will be wiped about each personally.
    2. Sergey-svs
      Sergey-svs 11 December 2017 12: 22 New
      77
      You can’t boycott OI-2018, they tell us. This could lead to the removal of Russia from the Olympic Games for another 8 years and kill Russian sport. Therefore - we must go! stop
      Chronicle of humiliation:
      1. The International Olympic Committee (IOC) decided to remove Russia from participation in the 2018 Winter Olympics;

      2. The functionaries of the Ministry of Sports of the Russian Federation are prohibited from being present in South Korea. Alexander Zhukov is deprived of membership in the IOC;

      3. OCD must donate $ 15 million to create an independent doping test system;

      4. Russian athletes lost 11 medals and first place in the medal standings of the 2014 Winter Olympics (Since 1994, Russia has been deprived of 48 medals of the Summer and Winter Olympic Games);

      5. Russian athletes will perform at the 2018 Olympics under a neutral flag (Neutral status provides for the absence of a flag, anthem and the inscription “Russia” on the uniform and attributes of our athletes.);

      6. Russian athletes will be prohibited from residing in the Olympic village;

      7. The IOC wants to ban the flag of Russia for fans at the Olympic Games 2018;

      8. Russian hockey players were banned from being called the “Russian National Team”;

      9. Putin: the authorities of the Russian Federation will not impede the participation of athletes in the Olympics in neutral status;

      10. The head of the Russian Olympic Committee (ROC) Alexander Zhukov apologized to the executive committee of the International Olympic Committee;

      11. IOC President Thomas Bach said re-awarding ceremonies for the Sochi 2014 medals that were selected from Russian athletes will be held in Pyeongchang;

      12. Russian sleigh riders unanimously voted for speaking at OI-2018;

      13. The Presidium of the Bobsleigh Federation of Russia recommended that athletes go to the Olympic Games 2018;

      14. The Russian Snowboard Federation recommended athletes to speak at the 2018 Games;

      15. Russian skiers have decided to speak at the Olympic Games in Pyeongchang;

      16. Russian curlers agree to speak at the Olympic Games 2018 under a neutral flag;

      17. The Russian Freestyle Federation advocated the participation of athletes in the 2018 Games;

      18. The Russian bobsled and skeleton teams are ready to perform at the Olympic Games 2018 under the Olympic flag;

      19. The skater Stolbova is ready to perform at the Olympics under a neutral flag;

      20. IBU has limited the rights of the Russian Biathlon Union for doping violations;

      21. Federal television channels changed their minds to boycott the Olympics. fool

      PS Further, based on historical experience, all the buildings of the Olympic village should have signs "Dogs and athletes from Russia are not admitted," as in the United States during times of racism and segregation. However, blacks in America had no choice. But our COPs climb into this shame and humiliation voluntarily. Ready for anything, if only to speak and cut down the bablishka. negative
      But we understand that the athlete’s life is short, they’ve been preparing all their lives ... Let's go, defeatists! Forward! am
      negative negative negative
      1. Petr1
        Petr1 11 December 2017 12: 28 New
        19
        I would advise them to change their citizenship, otherwise there will be very little chance of victory, or spit on everything and go to work as welders.
        1. cost 75
          cost 75 11 December 2017 13: 50 New
          +5
          Or just go work with at least someone.
        2. ArhipenkoAndrey
          ArhipenkoAndrey 11 December 2017 16: 02 New
          +3
          Well, let’s do something really useful for the country, and move the money that they spend on it to children’s sport, it will be more useful.
      2. Shura Sailors
        Shura Sailors 11 December 2017 12: 28 New
        +7
        Better let them sit at home and quietly hate Russian politicians and everyone involved? As a result, they will run west to cry, like some used athletes
        1. sogdy
          sogdy 11 December 2017 15: 41 New
          +3
          Quote: Shura of the sailors
          Better let them sit at home and quietly hate Russian politicians and everyone involved?

          Who will hate - he will hate in any situation. Palyubasu.
          1. Sergey53
            Sergey53 11 December 2017 16: 12 New
            +3
            An example of our liberals. As they hated the people, they hate them in spite of the fact that they rule the country.
            1. Nemesis
              Nemesis 11 December 2017 23: 29 New
              0
              Here are just those who call themselves liberals who have nothing to do with the indigenous population of the Russian Federation and are not ours either by blood or spirit ... That's why I am for adopting a citizenship law in the Russian Federation similar to that which exists in Nepal and Saudi Arabia, so that all of these not ours in the government of the Russian Federation were not for a cannon shot ...
      3. Viktor.12.71
        Viktor.12.71 11 December 2017 12: 31 New
        +3
        Under the USSR, this was not. Russia is isolated from the whole world. Western media are happy.
      4. Gardamir
        Gardamir 11 December 2017 13: 08 New
        20
        will kill Russian sport
        do olympiads develop sports?
        1. ArhipenkoAndrey
          ArhipenkoAndrey 11 December 2017 15: 59 New
          +4
          That's just the point, the Olympiad is a competition of countries, their athletes, notice the countries with their attributes, anthem, flag.
      5. BMP-2
        BMP-2 11 December 2017 13: 10 New
        35
        Something I don’t understand: how can the non-participation of Russia in the Olympic Games in such a cunning way kill Russian sport? In Russia, what does the International Olympic Committee pay for the costs of sports? Or are all Russian athletes Olympic champions? Or is it that all Russian athletes have such a delicate and vulnerable psyche that non-participation in acting will lead to a loss of the meaning of life, frustration and depression ??? request
        1. Viktor.12.71
          Viktor.12.71 11 December 2017 13: 31 New
          +2
          To paraphrase the late Kennedy: Today, two things are really important for the prestige of a nation: space flights and Olympic gold medals. I am no longer a young man, maybe in the 21st century this is not relevant.
          1. BMP-2
            BMP-2 11 December 2017 13: 52 New
            +3
            To paraphrase the saying: "Today, prestige is separate, and flies are separate!" lol
          2. Victor N
            Victor N 11 December 2017 18: 12 New
            +1
            Which international issues addressed the number of medals? This is pure fiction. There are only losses from the state of this show sport. Even from the most spectacular sport - hockey - nothing comes into the state budget.
          3. zoolu350
            zoolu350 11 December 2017 18: 51 New
            +2
            But Kennedy said nothing about neutral flags.
      6. 82т11
        82т11 11 December 2017 14: 02 New
        12
        Forgot to add that in 2016, Paralympic athletes were not allowed to attend the Olympics in Rio
      7. ArhipenkoAndrey
        ArhipenkoAndrey 11 December 2017 16: 04 New
        +1
        And the athletes don't give a damn about it, they are without clans and tribes, children of the world, but at the expense of someone else. The only thing they forgot is that the money that friends from the IOC will give them will be asked in triplets - business and nothing personal.
      8. Krabik
        Krabik 11 December 2017 23: 46 New
        0
        You are too strict for the athletes, still start to teach prostitutes on Tverskaya that they do not behave very well.
    3. Teberii
      Teberii 11 December 2017 12: 23 New
      +3
      Everything needs to be called and those who invented it. The humiliation of the country, athletes must be held accountable.
      1. Andrey Yuryevich
        Andrey Yuryevich 11 December 2017 12: 36 New
        10
        disgusting, disgusting, the soul does not accept, the mind does not understand ... and this is all a reaction to what we have been harked at, and someone said, garbage ... rub yourself and go. get money, wash off.
    4. tchoni
      tchoni 11 December 2017 12: 31 New
      36
      And then they will be elected deputies and they will begin to hang our noodles on our ears, about how they patriotically defended the interests of the country under a neutral flag for taxpayer money. And to demand from yesterday’s schoolboy Vasya Pupkin heroically, free of charge, to give his life for his homeland at the first opportunity.
    5. solzh
      solzh 11 December 2017 12: 38 New
      24
      If the athletes don’t care about the opinion of the majority of the population ... well, let’s go, as they say: they’ll hold the white flag in their hands, but don’t be offended that the people are covering them with three floors.
      For some reason, athletes forget on whose money they prepared and trained them.
      1. Alf
        Alf 11 December 2017 22: 12 New
        +1
        Quote: solzh
        just let them not be offended that the people cover them with three floors.

        And this does not bother them.
    6. scrap123
      scrap123 11 December 2017 12: 46 New
      +2
      but not under the infamous white flag am
    7. Dimontius
      Dimontius 11 December 2017 12: 49 New
      +7
      Most? very interesting to know the names of the proud minority!
    8. 210ox
      210ox 11 December 2017 12: 51 New
      17
      Yes, let them go, of course. Only for their money, and not for a state account. Once apart from sports, they have nothing else .. And at their own expense let them try to prepare! And they are not traitors of course. Once our state has no ideology, it must be pragmatism!
      Quote: Segel
      Just do not rush to stigmatize them, traitors, they say ... Remember when the West did not go to Moscow, many of their athletes arrived, the same Sebastian Coe took gold, and no one in England called him a traitor ... We will be more adequate, they it’s once in a lifetime, all my life is laid on it, except for my gyms, then they are completely smelling and haven’t seen anything, not fights in asphalt pieces at the disco, not the first kisses with the girl after that, nor the dawn meeting on the river with her ... One Galimov your sport !!! Let them go, and let them tear them all there !!!
    9. scrap123
      scrap123 11 December 2017 12: 51 New
      12
      When there at the Olympics they will wipe their feet about them, because they exchanged their flag for a worthless white rag, then let them not scream on the channels how they humiliated them there ....
    10. Lavrenti Pavlovich
      Lavrenti Pavlovich 11 December 2017 12: 53 New
      18
      Quote: Segel
      Just do not rush to stigmatize them, traitors, they say ... Remember when the West did not go to Moscow, many of their athletes arrived, the same Sebastian Coe took gold, and no one in England called him a traitor ... We will be more adequate, they it’s once in a lifetime, all my life is laid on it, except for my gyms, then they are completely smelling and haven’t seen anything, not fights in asphalt pieces at the disco, not the first kisses with the girl after that, nor the dawn meeting on the river with her ... One Galimov your sport !!! Let them go, and let them tear them all there !!!

      If the athletes had one “balcony sport”, then their victorious performances would not infuriate the people. The sanctions were announced against Russia, for which they should stand for, and for whom they are now going to speak (for some rings on the white flag). Not only athletes fell under the sanctions, small business was badly damaged, so why should athletes go to earn money they don’t represent Russia? Or do we not know what? Who will now believe that sport is not politics. Performing under a neutral flag is an indicative renunciation of one's own, I consider this a betrayal. You can not be a little patriot, and a little traitor. The IOC has discredited itself why such medals are needed, the IOC needs to put forward conditions that if they do not stop fooling, then Russia will not compete in these competitions. In Sochi, you can hold your own Olympics and reward Olympic medals, which is the problem.
      1. BMP-2
        BMP-2 11 December 2017 13: 14 New
        11
        I also think so: in the days of the Soviet Union, there was no tragedy of any kind of “cat fight”: they organized and held the “Goodwill Games” - both athletes in action and the audience were satisfied, and the Americans were worn out!
      2. cost 75
        cost 75 11 December 2017 13: 52 New
        +3
        If sport is out of politics, let all athletes quit politics
    11. Radikal
      Radikal 11 December 2017 13: 08 New
      +6
      We are not the West! This West in 1939 "laid down" under Hitler! Did we need it too? sad
    12. Fedalex
      Fedalex 11 December 2017 13: 08 New
      +9
      Yes, let them go ... I will "root" for the athletes of my country! And what’s the name of these, who are flying the flag of capitulators, I don’t care! Today, they compete under the white flag, which has nothing to do with Russia, and tomorrow they will change their citizenship and will compete for other countries ... There will be no Olympic champions at this Olympiad - there will be IOC and WADA champions!
    13. PDM80
      PDM80 11 December 2017 13: 31 New
      +9
      Oh eh! Poor little ones they didn’t go to discos, but the sports hall disappeared! And who interfered with their education and profession ?! The country, at its own expense, fed them, equip them, transported them around the world, paid their fees, they’re lazy walkers, you see, all their life they have gone to this! Return everything enclosed in you and go, only absolutely non-neutral! No matter how you are not connected with Russia!
    14. Fitter65
      Fitter65 11 December 2017 13: 51 New
      13
      Quote: Segel
      To be more adequate, they have it once in a lifetime, their whole life is laid on, except for their gyms, then they are completely smelling and they haven’t seen anything, not fights in asphalt pieces at the disco, not the first kisses with the girl after this, nor the dawn on the river with her same ..

      Of course, of course, they paid their money for this, trained in their personal gyms, or in stadiums rented for their personal savings? Or did they go to all this with the money of Russian taxpayers? It is because people really don’t even want to think about the consequences for themselves and the country. They accused the country of not presenting any reasonable evidence, but they said if you agree to our terms, admit lying report, come to the Olympic disgrace, as people without a clan and tribe, the West will forgive you, and at the closing of the Olympic Games-2018 it will allow you to carry the flag of your country, maybe if you do not forget to allow it ... Well, on the other hand, in Novy Urengoy-Kolya , in Russia-diligent athletes-TRAITORS.
      Quote: Segel
      Remember when the West did not go to Moscow, many of their athletes arrived, the same Sebastian Coe took the gold, and no one in England called him a traitor.

      Firstly, the West announced an OFFICIALLY boycott of OI-1980. Secondly, Western athletes who arrived on their own, or on their own initiative, performed their flags, and when they climbed the podium, they played the anthem of THEIR COUNTRY. It was a boycott of our Olympic Games from the west, and there is no ban on the performance of spot-athletes from Western countries in our country. And we did not indicate to athletes who can come to our games and who cannot. Therefore, please do not confuse carrots and a tram handle.
      And on the other hand, why it is impossible to conduct a survey among the population of the country, yes, yes, among those people whose money they gave to the state in the form of tax, and for which taxes this state built sports facilities and so on. So, the PEOPLE will ask how it thinks On this issue. You don’t need to hold a referendum, just let them hear what ordinary people think about it. Simple citizens of the country, not officials with a lack of self-esteem and pride in their country. They spat in his face, and they did not even wipes away, but started telling how everything turned out not bad. Did you look at their answers to reporters right after the decision of this commission? When the poor skater tried to say something, how the officer next to the “sports” physique began to talk about how good she was, how she performed well in English, she has a chance to become a long-distance sports functionary. And the girl clap-clap with her eyes and everything, there were no comments. And where will the comments come from? her uncle official explained on the air, you will say too much and goodbye career.
      Therefore, my opinion as a representative of the people-traitors !!!
      And on the account of the first kisses and other things, it’s not for us, it’s for their parents who brought them to sports schools, but in the future they themselves chose the path of a professional athlete. This is not a young guy asking whether he wants to serve or not, but go do your duty in front of the motherland ...
    15. Overlock
      Overlock 11 December 2017 14: 20 New
      +1
      and as one participant advocated with Solovyov, the Motherland should shower them with gifts, money, because they are HEROES. So, citizens and citizens.
    16. rumatam
      rumatam 11 December 2017 14: 54 New
      +3
      But they were traveling at their own expense, so let ours at their own expense.
    17. BARKHAN
      BARKHAN 11 December 2017 15: 16 New
      17
      Quote: Segel
      Just do not rush to stigmatize them, traitors, they say ... Remember when the West did not go to Moscow, many of their athletes arrived, the same Sebastian Coe took gold, and no one in England called him a traitor ... We will be more adequate, they it’s once in a lifetime, all my life is laid on it, except for my gyms, then they are completely smelling and haven’t seen anything, not fights in asphalt pieces at the disco, not the first kisses with the girl after that, nor the dawn meeting on the river with her ... One Galimov your sport !!! Let them go, and let them tear them all there !!!

      There is no need for verbiage. There are our interests, but there are strangers. That's all ...
    18. Wolverine
      Wolverine 11 December 2017 15: 25 New
      +4
      I’m not in a hurry, but I think that the main task of the IOC to separate the team and team spirit and the performance of individual athletes flying the white flag is treason. We are strong when together and united when the Flag, Coat of Arms and Anthem are with us. Each individually is weak and the most will be taken away; these proxies from the IOC are all clearly calculated to separate and finish separately.
      1. ArhipenkoAndrey
        ArhipenkoAndrey 11 December 2017 15: 57 New
        +4
        Under the white flag is the capitulation of RUSSIA, at least on such a show as the Olympics, Russia has already lost these games thanks to the "athletes" who have expressed their interest in participating in this show and God forbid that they mocked them as VDavtsy, and after the Olympics, a year or two later if they won something, they would have taken it.
    19. siberalt
      siberalt 11 December 2017 15: 36 New
      +1
      Let them ask Mutko for the flag, but we will root for our athletes and wish them good luck!
    20. ArhipenkoAndrey
      ArhipenkoAndrey 11 December 2017 15: 53 New
      +8
      Yes, of course, white and fluffy, but without a clan and a tribe, what the advanced Olympic community sought, and for me Jude they are Jude, they only care about themselves, the concept of a country is completely absent, not for them the homeland of Russia, there is a territory on which they were forced to live in. RUSSIA has cheated ruble gentlemen and get maximum pleasure at the Olympics.
    21. Victor N
      Victor N 11 December 2017 16: 19 New
      +4
      Society alone costs this. And no good.
    22. lazy
      lazy 11 December 2017 16: 26 New
      +7
      koe performed under the flag of his country, and played at the award what anthem? for what his English call a traitor? let's justify those who abandoned their parents for a career because "this is their life." and the paratrooper that he preferred in Chechnya not to remove the cross and not to disown his faith in order to save his life with a stubborn padded jacket. just IS HONOR AND IS DISAPPOINTMENT. it seems to me that IOC would set the condition for a trip to the Olympics by our men an unconventional prostate massage, they would be indignant and give, "it's their life they were preparing for this"
    23. Svetlana
      Svetlana 11 December 2017 16: 41 New
      +3
      Quote: Segel
      Let them go, and let them tear them all there !!!

      It seems to me that this is the last nail in the lid of the coffin Soviet sports as the foundation of the Russian.
    24. passing
      passing 11 December 2017 17: 47 New
      +3
      Remember when the West did not go to Moscow, many of their athletes arrived, the same Sebastian Coe took the gold, and no one in England called him a traitor.

      but they didn’t even pour money from the state budget. At their own expense, let them go, their choice!
    25. Alekseits
      Alekseits 11 December 2017 17: 47 New
      +4
      At the same time, no one deprived these athletes of the Anthem, Flag and Coat of Arms of their country and settled them not in the "plague barracks" separately from everyone else. And they went to the Olympiad (consciously wrote with a capital letter, because this is not the Olympics that was written with a capital) at their own expense. I remember the English cavalry of his horse carried at his own expense. So ours, let them go, but at their own expense: they will not represent our country. So there’s nothing for the country to pay for them.
    26. Misha Honest
      Misha Honest 11 December 2017 18: 04 New
      +4
      Just shameful for the sake of dough and in the pursuit of gold decided to be even more disgraced. As a result, we, and they will receive, both shame and war. Just ... Honor is gone ...
    27. seos
      seos 11 December 2017 20: 54 New
      +3
      In Russia, for the people, a market economy, for Bohemia, officials and athletes, I have some other economy .... based on suction to the budget ...
    28. Dmitry Konoplev
      Dmitry Konoplev 11 December 2017 21: 21 New
      0
      Well, more than once, some have two and three. Watch what they want. Earn money and roll back or really be a great athlete.
    29. NEXUS
      NEXUS 11 December 2017 22: 57 New
      +4
      Quote: Segel
      Let them go, and let them tear them all there !!!

      As Comrade Bunsha used to say from the movie "Ivan Vasilyevich Changes the Profession" - at whose expense is the banquet?
      The second question is, excuse me, who made them such athletes then? Or is it all at your own expense? There is a direct question about dull earnings with the hope of grants, bonuses and the chanting of their names. Only if they ride under the white flag, do not let them say that they are Russian athletes. They are not going to protect the interests of the country, but their selfish interests. Well, the flag in their hands and a fair wind in a stooped back.
      And for me it's a disgrace!
      1. osoboye_mneniye
        osoboye_mneniye 11 December 2017 23: 59 New
        0
        Quote: NEXUS
        There is a direct question about dull earnings with the hope of grants, bonuses and the chanting of their names.

        You're not right. But your professional activity should first of all bring emotional satisfaction, self-realization? Or do you only work for grandmothers and at the same time consider yourself a truly Russian person? I hope no. Athletes are also basically not fighting for money. Believe that they lose much more than they earn. They lose their health, family happiness, and the ability to adapt later in society (they only know how to sport), etc. And they earn only money, for which you can’t buy all of the above. Self-esteem and desire for self-realization drives them. It’s bad when, for the sake of their ambitions, they betray the country. But they do not betray you for money - 100% you easily judge what you cannot know about.
        It’s bad that the enemies showed once again how weak and fragmented we are.
    30. osoboye_mneniye
      osoboye_mneniye 11 December 2017 23: 52 New
      0
      Quote: Segel
      Just do not rush to stigmatize them, traitors, they say ... Remember when the West did not go to Moscow, many of their athletes arrived, the same Sebastian Coe took gold, and no one in England called him a traitor ... We will be more adequate, they it’s once in a lifetime, all my life is laid on it, except for my gyms, then they are completely smelling and haven’t seen anything, not fights in asphalt pieces at the disco, not the first kisses with the girl after that, nor the dawn meeting on the river with her ... One Galimov your sport !!! Let them go, and let them tear them all there !!!

      Hmm ... you messed up something. Those who came to the voluntary absence of their team, no one disgraced - did not deprive the flag. It is one thing when the country itself refuses to participate for political reasons, and another thing when the country is isolated for political reasons, and its athletes are offered to leave their country and go without it.
      You are warm with soft confuse.
      Once again, the whole world was shown the disunity of our society. Sports officials solve their issues. Athletes - their own. Sport is a PR tool. But there is no single country. Because there is no what is now called a national idea. What is it with us? Worldwide friendship for markets? The darkness of religion instead of faith in man and the light of knowledge? Exploitation instead of free peaceful labor? Forgetting your recent glorious past and history in a new way?
      Athletes cannot be blamed. They are a product of our time. They are just like us. Many of us in their place would do the same. Condemning while in the visual bed is easy.
  2. pvv113
    pvv113 11 December 2017 12: 22 New
    +8
    expressed a desire to participate in the 2018 Olympic Games, despite the IOC ban on the use of the flag and anthem of Russia

    Conflicting feelings torment me ...
    1. Jedi
      Jedi 11 December 2017 12: 32 New
      29
      Not you alone, Volodya. Although I personally think that consent to speak without one’s flag and anthem is akin to betrayal of the motherland. soldier
      1. pvv113
        pvv113 11 December 2017 12: 44 New
        +9
        Here I am about the same request
        1. Cutter
          Cutter 11 December 2017 12: 58 New
          11
          Colleagues, I read comments and there is a vile “image” in front of my eyes, wearing dark glasses and a curly-haired shag, who sold her homeland for an American typewriter and a house, with the official name Rodchenkov, and in fact, JUDA ... am This is definitely a TRAITOR!
          1. pvv113
            pvv113 11 December 2017 14: 37 New
            +5
            Absolutely correct definition. Such people must be hung up without waiting for a court decision or wartime conditions. The thief must sit, and the traitor must hang!
      2. Gardamir
        Gardamir 11 December 2017 13: 07 New
        +5
        akin to the betrayal of the motherland. soldier
        Say shorter THIS IS A BETTERNESS.
      3. BMP-2
        BMP-2 11 December 2017 13: 20 New
        +4
        Maksim! hi Probably the values, indeed, began to change. And not for the better! negative There is, of course, another option "we don’t understand something," only he doesn’t make me happy either. No.
        1. Jedi
          Jedi 11 December 2017 13: 24 New
          11
          Volodya, hello! hi I can understand athletes striving for the main starts of the planet, but there is a limit to everything! And putting personal interests above state ones is already too much. Although bureaucrats of all stripes are constantly engaged in this and give everyone an "example". negative
          1. BMP-2
            BMP-2 11 December 2017 13: 32 New
            +3
            Yes, as they say, "it's beautiful to live - you can’t forbid it." But you can’t make it! laughing
    2. BARKHAN
      BARKHAN 11 December 2017 15: 20 New
      +7
      Quote: pvv113
      Conflicting feelings torment me ...

      Quote: Jedi
      Not you alone

      Quote: Gardamir
      Say shorter THIS IS A BETTERNESS.

      This is a betrayal of the motherland ...
  3. bubalik
    bubalik 11 December 2017 12: 23 New
    48


    ,,, honestly stolen from the Internet,
    1. saveall
      saveall 11 December 2017 12: 29 New
      +5
      Of course, where would it be without a mausoleum and a corpse ...? Without it, the Motherland is not the motherland ... And how did Russia live so long before it was invented ?!
      1. bubalik
        bubalik 11 December 2017 12: 39 New
        37
        saveall Today, 13: 29

        ,,, and what does the corpse have to do with it? laughing
        ,, Mausoleum as a symbol of Victory and Victory not only in war ,,,


        ,,, If a country lacks its own state ideology, then a foreign ideology operates in the country. bully
        1. saveall
          saveall 11 December 2017 13: 01 New
          +5
          And then Victory has no more characters? You’ll take it away and there’s no Victory at once ... A corpse despite the fact that the name of the corpse is written on the mausoleum and it lies there, and it was built specifically for worshiping the corpse, and not Victory at all.
          And what is impossible to build an ideology without a mausoleum? Well, is it really impossible to educate young people in love for the Motherland on the same Victory (without a mausoleum), on the feat of our ancestors who won many wars from Alexander Nevsky to Zhukov and just teaching and instilling in them the main and eternal values ​​that allowed our people to go out winner in any situation. Well, not the mausoleum teaches all this!
          1. bubalik
            bubalik 11 December 2017 13: 09 New
            15
            saveall Today, 14: 01An that it is impossible to build an ideology without a mausoleum?

            ,,, yes it is possible, only the state has moved away from this crying
            ,,, I read in a child in the encyclopedia:
            1961-First Vostok-1 manned spacecraft was launched into space. Yuri Gagarin became the first man to fly into space. (no country or nation).

            1969g-American astronaut Neil Armstrong became the first man to set foot on the moon. ,,, that's the whole ideology recourse
          2. Hlavaty
            Hlavaty 11 December 2017 13: 18 New
            +6
            Quote: saveall
            And what is impossible to build an ideology without a mausoleum? Well, is it really impossible to educate young people in love for the Motherland on the same Victory (without a mausoleum), on the feat of our ancestors who won many wars from Alexander Nevsky to Zhukov and just teaching and instilling in them the main and eternal values ​​that allowed our people to go out winner in any situation.

            So far, even attempts to build a new ideology are not visible. Before breaking the old, one must at least propose a new one. And it will turn out as it is now - neither old nor new, each for itself. To the delight of the enemies.
            1. bubalik
              bubalik 11 December 2017 13: 21 New
              +2
              Hlavaty Today, 14: 18Before breaking the old, you must at least offer a new one. And it will turn out as it is now - neither old nor new, each for itself. To the delight of the enemies.
              ,,, good
            2. saveall
              saveall 11 December 2017 13: 56 New
              +1
              Quote: Hlavaty

              .... And it will turn out as it is now - neither old nor new, each for itself. To the delight of the enemies.

              Well, yes, that’s precisely why you need to grab onto old insignificant objects such as a mausoleum, and do your best to try to build them into real meanings, and sometimes pass them off as symbols of all the achievements of the people.
              That is precisely because we have such a mess in the head and we bring up the same ones with us and with the same porridge multiplied by the cult of the "golden calf" and consumption.
              1. teron
                teron 11 December 2017 15: 24 New
                +5
                "... nothing insignificant objects such as a mausoleum ..." It's funny, but in Ukraine "nothing insignificant objects" of the past Soviet era greatly annoy the nationalists there. Yes, and in the Baltic republics. Probably these "objects" still mean something?
            3. savage1976
              savage1976 11 December 2017 14: 52 New
              0
              Well, why not see, everything is visible. Everything is sold and bought. You can sell everything, the memory of ancestors, the opinion of the people, the homeland. The main thing is not to miscalculate the price, and if there is enough for a couple of answers, then they will write you down as heroes. Quite a normal ideology of the golden calf.
          3. Fitter65
            Fitter65 11 December 2017 14: 07 New
            +7
            Quote: saveall
            The corpse despite the fact that the surname of the corpse is written on the mausoleum and it lies there, and it was built specifically for the worship of the corpse,

            We’ll go down much lower than the Mausoleum and Red Square. To the simple roads of Russia, where there are wreaths and monuments on every kilometer, this is also worship of the TRUPS. I would like to understand why if you tell the truth about the tsar who left his country in difficult times, this is an insult to the feelings of believers. insulting a person under whose command they began to revive the country brought to the edge is normal.
          4. osoboye_mneniye
            osoboye_mneniye 12 December 2017 00: 14 New
            +1
            Quote: saveall
            And what is impossible to build an ideology without a mausoleum?

            So you build, if you know and know how. And if the older generation recognizes your ideology above them, and agrees to say goodbye to the mausoleum, as a symbol of their ideology - the ideology of winners, then the flag is in your hands.
            And then why shake the air? The mausoleum is a symbol of faith recognized by millions of your ancestors, who gave you a great country, great achievements, a good well-fed life.
            If you pay attention to the yapping of ungrateful and not-so-distant descendants, then you can take the whole country to pieces. How did the Ukrainians, for example ..
        2. Per se.
          Per se. 11 December 2017 13: 09 New
          +4
          Quote: bubalik
          If the country does not have its own state ideology, then the country has a foreign ideology
          If capitalism was chosen, the corresponding ideology, as well as motivation with morality. There was a great Soviet hockey, and, first of all, won thanks to the Soviet ideology of collectivism and camaraderie, pride in their people and their country. What happened to the current “legionnaires”, for whom the endless show in the Stanley Cup, the whole point of their life, is making money. I personally do not need such self-contained hockey and are not interested. All excuses, like, trained, prepared, waited for the Olympics ... What, and to the enemies of Russia would you go to such an Olympiad? What is being done against Russia is, in fact, hostile, not fair. Here, however, the state itself threw the athletes by washing their hands, instead of making a tough statement, instead of organizing alternative games, in which the athletes could show what they were ready for, especially since it’s not even a neutral flag. Russia will not again sue, will not select a medal, shaking the "white powder". Do not respect yourself and your country, go ahead, humiliate yourself further, good riddance. What is surprising, capitalism, and the owner of the system in London and Washington ...
    2. Shura Sailors
      Shura Sailors 11 December 2017 12: 33 New
      16
      Well yes. And the victory in World War II must be given to the United States, because suspicious scratches were found on the walls of the Reichstag wassat
      "D, B" (Minister of Foreign Affairs of the Russian Federation Lavrov)
  4. AleksPol
    AleksPol 11 December 2017 12: 23 New
    10
    Let it be on their conscience. If only then they would not sing about the love of the flag and the Russian anthem, as Solovyov said yesterday in the program.
    1. Warrior with machine gun
      Warrior with machine gun 11 December 2017 12: 29 New
      +8
      this "expression of will" is their whole love for the flag and anthem, given that they are mainly in the foreign countries at training camps, so they don’t care about the flag and anthem, their ego is more expensive.
      1. forty-eighth
        forty-eighth 11 December 2017 13: 00 New
        +1
        Putin said we would not boycott OI-18, the athletes agreed to go. If Putin would have told him to boycott, then no one would have gone.
        1. bk316
          bk316 11 December 2017 15: 08 New
          +8
          Putin said we would not boycott OI-18, the athletes agreed to go. If Putin would have told him to boycott, then no one would have gone.

          Putin came in and took a brush and painted over the matyugi in the elevator.
          And none of the tenants of the entrance even knew that it could be done, it’s interesting that they still don’t know that it’s just possible not to write the MATCHES, then you don’t have to paint over.

          Somehow sad ...
  5. svp67
    svp67 11 December 2017 12: 23 New
    +4
    Well, well ... Athletes having decided to go there, went on a very difficult path. Now part of our population will begin to dust them, so they are without a flag and a national anthem, one more will be VERY happy about their defeats, shouting: “here you can’t do it without doping ...” So that they have now only one way - WIN, honestly and in a way that would be without any doubt.
    1. AleksPol
      AleksPol 11 December 2017 12: 27 New
      +4
      So they are exhausted with their samples before the start of the competition.
      1. svp67
        svp67 11 December 2017 12: 31 New
        +2
        Quote: AleksPol
        So they are exhausted with their samples before the start of the competition.

        When they made the decision, I think they knew what they were going to ...
        1. Going
          Going 11 December 2017 12: 36 New
          +6
          Quote: svp67
          Well, well ... Athletes having decided to go there, went on a very difficult path. Now part of our population will begin to dust them, so they are without a flag and a national anthem, one more will be VERY happy about their defeats, shouting: “here you can’t do it without doping ...” So that they have now only one way - WIN, honestly and in a way that would be without any doubt.


          So it turns out you can’t go, but don’t go even worse, choose the lesser of two evils.
          1. svp67
            svp67 11 December 2017 12: 44 New
            +5
            Quote: Going
            So it turns out you can’t go, but don’t go even worse

            And our special forces and PMC employees, they are also very often without a "hymn and flag" ... but it’s necessary, it’s necessary for someone to defend their homeland anyway ....
            1. Going
              Going 11 December 2017 12: 56 New
              +5
              Yes, and without documents, it is necessary to protect the homeland, the sport is now right on the front line.
              1. svp67
                svp67 11 December 2017 12: 58 New
                +2
                Quote: Going
                Sport is now right on the front line.

                No, it turns out that already in the deep rear of the OPPONENT ...
                1. Makarov
                  Makarov 11 December 2017 14: 05 New
                  +1
                  If one of them unfurls the flag of the Russian Federation at the ceremony being in 1st place, then yes ... and this is an ordinary betrayal
                  1. svp67
                    svp67 11 December 2017 14: 10 New
                    +1
                    Quote: Makarov
                    and so this is an ordinary betrayal

                    You can think anything. But I will not judge them for sure. I want to see what they stand in conditions like athletes and people ...
                    Quote: Makarov
                    If one of them unfolds the flag of the Russian Federation at the ceremony being in 1st place, then yes ...

                    This is everyone’s decision. But this man must understand what threatens him not only ...
                    1. Makarov
                      Makarov 11 December 2017 20: 22 New
                      +2
                      Their price is already known. Travel and accommodation in Seoul and the opportunity to speak at the Olympics. What do you build a virgin from yourself? And so everything is known ...
                      This is everyone’s decision. But this man must understand what threatens him not only ...
                      Will they shoot?
                      1. svp67
                        svp67 11 December 2017 21: 45 New
                        0
                        Quote: Makarov
                        Will they shoot?

                        Almost ... Every day on the network and on your pages to read that you are a traitor. It’s not easy for them, but here it is. Maybe it’s better and would be shot right away. Why so torture.
        2. BMP-2
          BMP-2 11 December 2017 13: 24 New
          +1
          I think Rodchenkov also knew what he was doing ... yes And this is definitely not the salvation of the motherland.
          1. svp67
            svp67 11 December 2017 13: 29 New
            +2
            Quote: BMP-2
            I think Rodchenkov also knew what he was doing ...

            And here you can read more. When did he clearly know this? When doping through my sister I haggled when I decided to run away or when "for a barrel of jam and a box of cookies", oh, for a car and a house, I sold offal ...
            1. BMP-2
              BMP-2 11 December 2017 14: 04 New
              +3
              So at each of these stages of degradation he knew: well, would he bargain if he didn’t have enough of it? Would he decide to flip over if he didn’t know that he would not receive a “barrel of jam and a box of cookies” as a reward? Did he know that for his actions he would be despised at home? Maybe he didn’t know, but he probably guessed. Yes, that's just his own selfish interests for him all the same above all else turned out to be ... yes
      2. savage1976
        savage1976 11 December 2017 14: 54 New
        +1
        They will take samples and after each round they will take it, and during the descent on the sled from the hill to the pit stop, they slow down and, in the ski jump, they hang to urinate in a jar.
    2. q75agent
      q75agent 11 December 2017 12: 36 New
      0
      not in biathlon that's for sure wink
    3. osoboye_mneniye
      osoboye_mneniye 12 December 2017 00: 25 New
      0
      Quote: svp67
      Now part of our population will begin to spy on them, well, they are without a flag and anthem

      So we do not have the Union of indestructible free republics now, but Russia is our sacred power.
      Do you feel the difference? Where is that hymn worth half the life to put? There was a union of the free, but a sacred power became. From the brotherhood of nations to kings and priests. Are you ready for kings and priests to give half your life?
      Well, the flag also let us down. Top white. Below are red. And between them are the gendarmes. This is some kind of mockery ...
  6. Labrador
    Labrador 11 December 2017 12: 25 New
    14
    On the one hand it’s clear. BUT !: when people digest the sanctions in silence, many athletes do not even try. It smacks of betrayal in the name of vanity.
    This opinion is mine and I do not impose it on anyone.
  7. engineer74
    engineer74 11 December 2017 12: 25 New
    +6
    Ban on state ideology ...
    The result is on the face!
  8. tchoni
    tchoni 11 December 2017 12: 26 New
    +6
    Vile traitors.
    1. _Jack_
      _Jack_ 11 December 2017 12: 33 New
      +1
      It is foolish to think so. For them, this is the same job and livelihood as your job is for you. Moreover, a sports career in sports is very short, for many this is the only chance to participate in the Olympics. In short, do not judge, but you will not be judged.
      1. Makarov
        Makarov 11 December 2017 13: 54 New
        +1
        One loot on my mind ...
    2. kepmor
      kepmor 11 December 2017 12: 37 New
      +4
      Well, you so right away ... traitors ... and even "vile" ... not patriotic somehow ...
      they are members of putinteam after all ... it is necessary to show "respect" ...
    3. Anyone
      Anyone 11 December 2017 12: 41 New
      +6
      Our Olympic Committee was caught on the fact that he participated in a certain state doping scheme. The team was suspended. Lighted athletes - suspended. Those who did not eat dope are ready to prove that they are honest athletes at the Olympics. What is their betrayal?
      Now, if Russia would officially say that it’s not such a thing - WADA and Maclaren are lying. And we will prove it in court. And the plaintiff will be Russia in the person of its Olympic Committee, which intends in this way to protect the interests of athletes and the honor of the country. Until then (until the court ruling) we officially suspend membership in the IOC and participation in the OI. And our president would have officially announced all this. Then yes - I would be the first to call those who would go to the Olympics traitors.
      But here, if anyone had already forgotten, everything was different: Zhukov apologized, Putin had long since openly said about doping, that they supposedly had been overlooked. And recently, in fact, in his speech he sent athletes to the Olympic Games under a neutral flag. Therefore, let them go - they can only wish them success.
      1. igor67
        igor67 11 December 2017 12: 58 New
        +1
        most athletes on TV say that they are clean from doping, which really got caught, so did anyone file a cold or what are we waiting for?
        1. Anyone
          Anyone 11 December 2017 13: 08 New
          +4
          Are you asking me? )) I myself am surprised ... If the employees of RusADA, the Russian Olympic Committee, sports federations, etc. officials forced our athletes to take doping, then these officials (Rodchenkov, Zhukov, Mutko, Stepanov and so on) must be urgently brought to the criminal responsibility for forcing citizens to use some chemicals. This is a real criminal offense. From the point of view of the law, they are not better than klofelinschits))
          But since no one is being brought to trial in our country, they themselves do not turn to international courts to protect the rights of athletes, the honor and dignity of government officials of the Russian Federation, etc., I believe that Putin decided to put this whole brakes on. Therefore, what to be indignant is if the president himself actually blessed our athletes to speak without a hymn and a flag. Well, so the flag for him and them ...))
      2. Karabin
        Karabin 11 December 2017 17: 43 New
        +1
        Quote: Anyone
        And recently, in fact, in his speech he sent athletes to the Olympic Games under a neutral flag.

        What do you!? How could he do so, so do not give a damn about the scrapie!
      3. osoboye_mneniye
        osoboye_mneniye 12 December 2017 00: 34 New
        0
        Quote: Anyone
        Therefore, let them go - they can only wish them success.

        Quite to the point. The point of view is fully consistent with the ideology of our society. Every man for himself. They threw you, and you throw.
        If the ideology was different, then no one would go, but the sports community would achieve, if not landing, then re-election of the entire sports leadership. I know the athletes who suffered from the doping and the team failed. They behave quieter than water below the grass. Mutual responsibility. Ehhhh ...
        1. Anyone
          Anyone 12 December 2017 00: 48 New
          0
          To be honest, today the society is so-so. Pretty bad. And ideology to match him.
  9. bogart047
    bogart047 11 December 2017 12: 30 New
    0
    and they can be understood - the peak of the physical form happens once in a lifetime, someone has been preparing for this all his life.
    1. Gardamir
      Gardamir 11 December 2017 13: 05 New
      +4
      they can be understood
      maybe it’s possible, only why the leadership has withdrawn from solving the problem, hopes to sit out in the corner, but there aren’t more Crimea to return.
      1. BMP-2
        BMP-2 11 December 2017 13: 43 New
        +2
        If you search well, there will always be a new Crimea! laughing yes
    2. BMP-2
      BMP-2 11 December 2017 13: 28 New
      +2
      Poor, unhappy athletes: they have the whole meaning of life - at the peak of form, and everything else is meaningless! lol
      1. bogart047
        bogart047 11 December 2017 18: 31 New
        0
        is not it so? They can’t do anything else in life and there’s zero benefit from them. Only for the sake of medals can they tear the veins ...
        1. osoboye_mneniye
          osoboye_mneniye 12 December 2017 00: 38 New
          +2
          Quote: bogart047
          is not it so? They can’t do anything else in life and there’s zero benefit from them. Only for the sake of medals can they tear the veins ...

          Why are you so narrow-minded .. They work as trainers in schools and sports schools - they teach your children to be strong, courageous, learn to overcome themselves, to win. It is expensive. Neither economists, nor managers, nor lawyers, nor bankers, nor dentists will teach this.
          1. BMP-2
            BMP-2 12 December 2017 12: 16 New
            +2
            In fact - you are right, of course, but in form - I think dentists will not understand you! wassat lol
            1. osoboye_mneniye
              osoboye_mneniye 12 December 2017 19: 38 New
              +1
              Yes, a little sloppy happened. This is me in the sense that the profession is fashionable and monetary, but it does not help the cause of youth formation, as opposed to sports figures. I hope that none of the above will be offended by the harsh truth.
              The manager himself was, I repent))
          2. bogart047
            bogart047 27 December 2017 12: 57 New
            0
            even without these grief heroes I grew up, and nothing, alive. Ordinary trainers can teach all this without an armful of useless glitters.
  10. Mihanishche
    Mihanishche 11 December 2017 12: 33 New
    +8
    Traitors! They betrayed not only me personally, but also the memory of fathers and grandfathers! I am sure that it will be necessary to deal with them - let Putin deprive them of their pensions, citizenship, money, everything!
    1. Gardamir
      Gardamir 11 December 2017 13: 04 New
      16
      but also the memory of fathers and grandfathers
      It has long been betrayed, replacing the Red Star, a rag on the Mausoleum, a plaque in honor of the Nazi accomplice Mannerheim, worship of the country's enemy Lgunitsyn, boy Kolya, the president who repeated the "feat" of Gorbachev and Yeltsin, who considered that the flag and anthem are nothing ...
    2. Karabin
      Karabin 11 December 2017 17: 52 New
      +5
      Quote: Mikhanishche
      let Putin deprive them of their pensions, citizenship, money, everything!

      People don’t watch TV, they don’t follow the words of the president of the Neutral Federation. Then they write all sorts of garbage. Putin will not only deprive them of anything, but also congratulate him with a medal, and not only verbally, if such a thing happens. Moreover, he will pay for the trip, as well as 15 lyam IOC.
  11. Vitas
    Vitas 11 December 2017 12: 33 New
    +9
    Defend the honor of the motherland, but without the motherland ... one word - COP (athlete from Russia).
    1. BMP-2
      BMP-2 11 December 2017 13: 36 New
      +1
      They also use the word Russia nekomilfo! COP - "completely isolated p ... dy)? In my opinion, then it will be more accurate! laughing
  12. Naum
    Naum 11 December 2017 12: 35 New
    +6
    These "consonants" at the Olympics are waiting for another portion of national humiliation. They will be raised 3-5 times a night for the "calling of the samples" on the eve of the starts, and then anyway condemned. Everywhere they will be "forgotten". Yes, a lot of things you can think of for athletes "without clan and tribe." "Oh, sport! You - ..."
    1. BMP-2
      BMP-2 11 December 2017 13: 39 New
      +1
      And even more interesting is not what they will do “there”, but how they will be treated “here”! I think this is the next (and, I must admit, this time quite successful) Pentagon plan to split Russian society. hi
      1. Karabin
        Karabin 11 December 2017 18: 00 New
        0
        Quote: BMP-2
        I think this is the next (and I must admit, this time quite successful) Pentagon plan

        The President clearly states - "In the furnace of such an Olympiad." Athletes accept and I think the vast majority understand this decision. And in the trash plan.
        1. BMP-2
          BMP-2 11 December 2017 20: 38 New
          +1
          Let your words be to God’s ears!
  13. afrikanez
    afrikanez 11 December 2017 12: 37 New
    +8
    Even the athletes descended to the level of officials and ask the IOC for something. It’s not disgusting yourself? Knowing full well that no one will make concessions for Russia.
    1. osoboye_mneniye
      osoboye_mneniye 12 December 2017 00: 46 New
      0
      Quote: afrikanez
      Even the athletes descended to the level of officials and ask the IOC for something. It’s not disgusting yourself? Knowing full well that no one will make concessions for Russia.

      Athletes people are mostly simple and naive. Our officials deceived them. Now they are turning to their officials. All use them. And fellow citizens scolded. An unenviable fate.
      And that they neglected the flag, it was not only them. We have most of these officials. Just the athletes are in sight, and the cunning in the chairs are invisible.
      I read here about one deputy in St. Petersburg, what a good person he is - it saves the cultural heritage from greedy developers, etc. And it turned out that his sister was the wife of Chubais))) So trust the people after this ... Everything is completely dear people. Not like athletes, yes ..
  14. An60
    An60 11 December 2017 12: 38 New
    +3
    Also, let them remake their names into neutral ones, for example Postova instead of Stolbov. Whoever guesses that she is from Russia. A sportswoman from nowhere.
  15. sunzhenets
    sunzhenets 11 December 2017 12: 39 New
    15
    Our government once again wiped off after spitting in the face. Athletes and sports officials have shown their patriotism.
    From the statement of Sophia the Great:
    We talked with all athletes from all winter sports. Most Russian athletes want to participate in the Olympics, the athletes commission supported them. I ask the Russian public to treat with respect and understanding the decision.

    I think that many of the Russian public will then make their decision: do not support these games and athletes flying the white flag. I ask that Russian athletes treat our decision with understanding and respect.
  16. Glory1974
    Glory1974 11 December 2017 12: 40 New
    +1
    On the one hand, of course you can’t go. But on the other hand, it will already be a political demarche, and we ourselves assured everyone that sport is outside of politics. And given that Zhukov apologized for the doping, thereby admitting Bach was right, it turns out that we are really all doped to the ears.
    1. Gardamir
      Gardamir 11 December 2017 12: 59 New
      +2
      it turns out we are really all doping to the ears.
      What do you think if at the Olympics before Sochi, the Russian team was in 11th place and suddenly, after 4 years, the first? Why did Rodchenkov receive awards and prizes?
      1. Glory1974
        Glory1974 11 December 2017 13: 06 New
        +1
        What do you think if at the Olympics in front of Sochi, the Russian team was in 11 place and suddenly, after 4 of the year, the first?

        What are we talking about. It has long been said that the sport of great achievements is the competition of pharmacists.
        This time our pharmacists lost
  17. Mihail55
    Mihail55 11 December 2017 12: 41 New
    12
    It was not worth the first person until the athletes made a general decision to announce their “verdict”! Was it necessary ???? But the “patriots” athletes would have passed the “lice” test! Are they really so short of money? At the world championships earn little? Not everyone plows on advertising? Or do they live in another country? We are a single people, all under sanctions, under the "gentle" control of our beloved Sechin and Medina ... are they special? They should not be infringed in anything? And HOMELAND is in danger ... not for them? It’s a pity, but such a holiday word as OLYMPIAD for me has lost its former greatness ...
    1. Karabin
      Karabin 11 December 2017 18: 03 New
      +3
      Quote: Michael55
      But the “patriots” athletes would have passed the “lice” test!

      If the first person behaves like a rag, what to expect from athletes.
  18. pvv113
    pvv113 11 December 2017 12: 42 New
    35
    the majority of Russians are negative about the participation of Russian athletes under neutral symbols in South Korea

    1. Vadmir
      Vadmir 11 December 2017 12: 50 New
      11
      Here is a solution worthy of respect. A real man.
    2. Makarov
      Makarov 11 December 2017 13: 58 New
      +9
      Handsome. Now the heroes will be those who have not fallen for these smelly gatherings bearing the Olympic Games by an absurd misunderstanding.
  19. alekc75
    alekc75 11 December 2017 12: 42 New
    +5
    they were not forced to go to sports; how do others live and work ?? what do they want a lot of dough and right away ????
  20. Vadmir
    Vadmir 11 December 2017 12: 43 New
    11
    Opinion polls show that the majority of Russians negatively regard the participation of Russian athletes under neutral symbols
    The opinion of the people is deeply parallel to modern athletes, the main thing is loot. For the loot and the motherland and mother you can sell your own. Not a trace of pride and honor. Russia spat in the face, and they are ready to act under a white rag, if only to pay. And then they will give cars for such a “feat” in the Kremlin, bought with the money of this very people.
    Personally, I will not watch the Olympics, I am ashamed.
    1. Freeman
      Freeman 11 December 2017 13: 34 New
      0
      Vadmir Today, 12:43 PM
      Not a trace of pride and honor. Russia spit in the face

      Well, put in the face spat our bureaucrats. It’s just that they are trying to gloss over Russia with this “Kharkotina,” so that it would not be so offensive.
      And the fact that they have no "not a trace of pride and honor" - I agree.
  21. senima56
    senima56 11 December 2017 12: 48 New
    +3
    I treat "with respect and understanding" ...., but somehow disgusting. I won’t watch the Olympics; I don’t want to see “Russian athletes on the Olympic flag”!
  22. BLADFROST
    BLADFROST 11 December 2017 12: 49 New
    10
    Whether or not to speak is their choice. Whether to root for them or not is my choice. Speak for yourself, but don’t show us, it’s still not interesting! Quietly put yourself in a backpack that you deserve to go home, also quietly. If you have something to brag about, remember that our flag does not warm your shoulders!
  23. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 11 December 2017 12: 51 New
    +1
    And I would not consider such an option at all ... Go and break everyone. To win all that is possible and impossible ... And the whole world will watch and KNOW, these are Russian athletes ... wassat There will be no others there ...
    1. albert
      albert 11 December 2017 17: 35 New
      +4
      I’m sure it’s not possible to come and break everyone. For a simple reason, they’ll sue. I won’t be surprised if those who went to the Olympics don’t bring anything at all, and there will be wild grass in Western media like “Russians couldn’t do anything without doping!” What’s the point then go there at all ?!
  24. Antor
    Antor 11 December 2017 12: 53 New
    +7
    What can be surprised in Russia, in my opinion there is nothing more, the impression is that the rot climbed from all the cracks ... !!! Kneaks in the Bundestag, supposedly our "neutral" athletes, and now here’s the award for the human rights work of L. Alekseeva ... Well, a complete scribe, I just want to ask, and these are our heroes, this is our ...... with whom we take an example !!! ?????
    1. pvv113
      pvv113 11 December 2017 16: 02 New
      +2
      Quote: Antor
      Prize for the advocacy of L. Alekseeva ..

      This is her funeral
  25. garnik
    garnik 11 December 2017 12: 54 New
    +3
    I think that we should let go of the game, and let them win their medals as athletes from Russia. But in the end, who patriotically acted i.e. to those to whom the honor of the country is higher than medals, to thank with monetary prizes, in proportion to their claiming places at the Olympics.
  26. maxim1987
    maxim1987 11 December 2017 12: 55 New
    +1
    and X5 they’ll probably give them anyway, so God be with him, with a hymn sad
  27. clerk theophan
    clerk theophan 11 December 2017 12: 55 New
    +8
    Quote: Naum
    These "consonants" at the Olympics are waiting for another portion of national humiliation. They will be raised 3-5 times a night for the "calling of the samples" on the eve of the starts, and then anyway condemned. Everywhere they will be "forgotten". Yes, a lot of things you can think of for athletes "without clan and tribe." ... "


    I caught myself thinking that I would only welcome these actions !! For traitors do not like anywhere and never ...
    Yeah ... a generation of modern Vlasovites has grown.
  28. Gardamir
    Gardamir 11 December 2017 12: 56 New
    10
    As the boy said Kolya, the Germans are not to blame, now the athletes are not to blame, but what is the pride that they will perform without a flag without an anthem? Like I should be proud of these rootless?
  29. pjbunny
    pjbunny 11 December 2017 12: 57 New
    13
    Their sporting achievements can be respected (I will not come close to such results), but, as individuals, I have contempt for them. Cheer for them, watch the Olympics, I definitely won’t. Even their victory, which I doubt very much, will not cause me any positive emotions. During wars, thousands of people gave their most valuable things — their lives for the sake of victory, and they, for their own sake (and how, all their life they went to a possible victory at the Olympics), will go as scum and beaten dogs. Maybe I wasn’t brought up like that by my parents and society under the USSR, but the honor of the country, its citizens, is higher than my Wishlist and Verbalke.
  30. Moskovit
    Moskovit 11 December 2017 13: 02 New
    20
    The moans about the fact that they lived for 4 years only for her sake are ridiculous. There are world championships, Europe, various cups, etc. They calmly perform on them. With Russia it is necessary to worry not only 100 thousand and Mercedes for the medal, but also its pain and humiliation.
    It was fair or not.
    Therefore, it is a shame to them who do not go respect!
  31. Cxnumx
    Cxnumx 11 December 2017 13: 03 New
    0
    I do not brand, because I understand - an athlete can have a peak form only a few years. but I’m not going to look and hurt.
    1. Makarov
      Makarov 11 December 2017 14: 02 New
      +6
      I don’t give a damn about their peak of form ... they don’t give a damn when a soldier including a flag is ready to part not with a peak of form but with life ... like that I don’t give a damn about them ...
  32. maverickr
    maverickr 11 December 2017 13: 04 New
    +4
    "..love sir!".
    Just don’t let the snot fist into a fist later that they were condemned, or after 2 years they found the next scratches and disqualified them for life.
    Everything has a price.
  33. Alex 2016
    Alex 2016 11 December 2017 13: 04 New
    +3
    Let them go. But everything is only at their own expense, and upon arrival they have no bonuses, cars, gifts and other things. They did not go to speak for the Fatherland, but for the loot, so let them make money. And it’s not the people’s money, which is stolen by bureaucrats anyway, they receive.
  34. Alexander S.
    Alexander S. 11 December 2017 13: 05 New
    +7
    The West applied a sanction to the fans ... in the form of depriving them of the opportunity to see the flag of their native country at the Olympics. And judging by all the athletes, the fans ... they’re going to perform not for us ... not for the country ... but for themselves ... (at the state’s expense, of course ... they’re not fools). Hopefully not coming back. Let them agree with the Saxons ... since they don’t want to.
  35. kubanec
    kubanec 11 December 2017 13: 06 New
    +4
    after all this shame, I won’t watch the Olympics for sure, I’m kind of neutral at neutral athletes in a neutral form, with a neutral anthem, under a neutral flag, the next time they will be forced to perform under a rainbow flag and in a rainbow shape ......
  36. Ivan 333
    Ivan 333 11 December 2017 13: 08 New
    +9
    Once the athletes appear under a neutral flag, and without a hymn, then let the country whose honor they represent pay them for the victory .. And we pay them and are not required to rest!
  37. Antokha
    Antokha 11 December 2017 13: 17 New
    +4
    Everyone was wondering who they were, these athletes, patriots, or what. Well now we know.
  38. Toropov
    Toropov 11 December 2017 13: 18 New
    10
    Dashing 90s
    Echoes again.
    Russia in Lausanne
    They cast out castoffs.

    Take the tub
    Slop guys.
    Bad athletes
    No longer soldiers.

    Go without banner
    Go ahead, Olympians.
    You will be smeared with oil
    Paper porch.

    Bent over, fuck.
    In all that they had
    Without a hymn they dare.
    Did you want this?

    No honor, no flag
    For the money of courage.
    And shame for the medals.
    What else did you give?

    Honor and conscience for you
    Closed story.
    In the faces were?
    “They cleaned themselves up.”

    Let us be told
    You do not touch the athletes.
    After all, they don’t sleep for a day,
    They destroy the veins and veins.

    And hymns and flags
    - words on paper.
    They won’t let me go
    Everyone will go to the Vikings.

    And at the same time
    In Syrian Watch
    Gangster seed
    Thunder in Deir ez-Zor.

    Heroes of Russia
    Simple guys
    Not everyone has returned.
    Goodbye soldiers!

    Russian enemies!
    There will be no split in us!
    I will repay Judah.
    There are our people everywhere!

    And someone will go ...
    The country will not decrease.
    One is Victory.
    The people will judge everything.
  39. Radikal
    Radikal 11 December 2017 13: 19 New
    +8
    Quote: Segel
    Just do not rush to stigmatize them, traitors, they say ... Remember when the West did not go to Moscow, many of their athletes arrived, the same Sebastian Coe took gold, and no one in England called him a traitor ... We will be more adequate, they it’s once in a lifetime, all my life is laid on it, except for my gyms, then they are completely smelling and haven’t seen anything, not fights in asphalt pieces at the disco, not the first kisses with the girl after that, nor the dawn meeting on the river with her ... One Galimov your sport !!! Let them go, and let them tear them all there !!!
    We are not the West! In 1939, the whole West "lay" under Hitler! Did we also have to do this? It all starts with such seemingly “innocent” things - why is it bad to perform under a white “rag”? Not a war, after all! But no! The West also tests our leadership, other people on such things — they are capable of sacrificing principles in certain situations, or they will find some excuses for themselves, such as those that we have been hearing for several days! sad
    1. Anyone
      Anyone 11 December 2017 13: 35 New
      +1
      Yeah. Instead of getting explanations from Zhukov, Mutko, Medvedev and other officials about how we got into this situation, some sincerely believe that in this episode our people are again heroically fighting against an external enemy. And which of the athletes does not want to fight the “external enemy” at the Olympic Games, but wants to just play in them - that heinous traitor. In fact, the traitors are not the athletes who gathered at the Olympics, but you yourself know who.
  40. assa67
    assa67 11 December 2017 13: 23 New
    +7
    but what if they are offered to go at their own expense? .. though the IOC promised to finance something .... to go or not is their choice .... you can talk a lot on this subject: like, the dream of a lifetime, sweat and blood .... to: freeloaders and loafers (curling, for example) .... for me personally, the country's flag and anthem are not empty words, and this is not “cheers-patriotism”, so I won’t watch, but I won’t judge ..someone
    1. Bakht
      Bakht 11 December 2017 13: 50 New
      +2
      The funny thing is tomorrow. OCD suspended from the Olympics. But it’s the Russian Olympic Committee that will make the “Olympic athletes from Russia” finance. And why did they come up with such a formulation? In vain tried what?
      1. assa67
        assa67 11 December 2017 14: 00 New
        +7
        that's about it ... they want to go, let them go at their own expense ... but they still rely on bonuses from the country, which in fact they spat ... I repeat, this is my personal opinion
  41. Freeman
    Freeman 11 December 2017 13: 25 New
    +2
    Quote: Mikhanishche
    Traitors! They betrayed not only me personally, but also the memory of fathers and grandfathers! I am sure that it will be necessary to deal with them - let Putin deprive them of their pensions, citizenship, money, everything!

    And what did Putin himself say?
    His statement was reminiscent of the children's game “Will you go to the ball?” ("Young Lady Madame")
    Yes and no don't say
    Do not take Red and Blue with White,
    Will you go to the ball?

    Ingenious! There is no direct boycott - but the athletes are still traitors!
    Or "partisan heroes"? recourse
    And CAM, as always, with nothing.
    1. Conductor
      Conductor 11 December 2017 14: 01 New
      +1
      Samych himself, not to him. He has a war there in Syria, Elections may grandchildren were born. And you give him an OI.
  42. senima56
    senima56 11 December 2017 13: 43 New
    +2
    And may Mr. MuDko fly the Olympic flag in front of a delegation of “athletes from Russia”!
  43. Bakht
    Bakht 11 December 2017 13: 48 New
    10
    Well, they’ll go. They won’t bring anything. A couple of medals will be thrown to the dog like a bone. Then they will line up on a ruler and hand over to those imported medals that were taken from Russian athletes at the Sochi Olympics. And everyone will be forced to applaud.
    Then they say "we were right. Russians cannot win without doping."
    1. Conductor
      Conductor 11 December 2017 14: 04 New
      +3
      Announce all of our asthmatics. . The asthma epidemic.
  44. Rostislav
    Rostislav 11 December 2017 13: 51 New
    +6
    The data of sociological polls show that the majority of Russians have a negative attitude towards the participation of Russian athletes under neutral symbolism in South Korea.

    Not just the majority, but from 66 to 73% according to various polls.
    1. Bakht
      Bakht 11 December 2017 14: 06 New
      +2
      But according to some data, Putin's rating will go down from 78% to 67%. The right path is ....
      1. kubanec
        kubanec 11 December 2017 14: 10 New
        +2
        at the elections look at the rating
        1. Bakht
          Bakht 11 December 2017 14: 13 New
          +2
          Official data 80%. Unofficial 67%. I believe more unofficial. The general trend is a drop in the rating. At the expense of Crimea, he lasted two years. In 2012, upon taking office, the rating was a little over 50%.
          Olympics, Jerusalem, the withdrawal of troops. What other “victories” can be recorded?
      2. Nikolai Grek
        Nikolai Grek 12 December 2017 00: 04 New
        +2
        Quote: Bakht
        But according to some data, Putin's rating will go down from 78% to 67%. The right path is ....

        Putin announces a bike game and forbids all athletes to go there ... there are several "dissidents" who still get to the games !!! Naturally, a scandal for the whole world, replicated by all opponents of Russia !!! wink wink wink I’m sure that many guardians here for the bike, would yell that we had to let everyone in !!! laughing laughing laughing
        1. Bakht
          Bakht 12 December 2017 15: 44 New
          +2
          What a strange conclusion. Well, a few dissidents would go. What a disgrace? Shame will be at the Olympics now. Have you really not been explained here all the points. And I personally would "scream that they didn’t let me go right."
          The IOC Commission will be selected. The composition of the teams (trainers, doctors, massage therapists) will be selected by the IOC. They will dishonor the whole world. They won’t give anything. Russia recognizes all the findings of Rodchenkov, McLaren and others and repents that the country had state support for doping. In this case, lawsuits are annulled. Selected medals for Sochi in a festive atmosphere (necessarily in the presence of "athletes from Russia") will be awarded to others. it will be proved that in Russia they win only with doping. 15 million bucks pay IOC.
          This will be a SHAME.
          1. Nikolai Grek
            Nikolai Grek 12 December 2017 18: 54 New
            +1
            Quote: Bakht
            Shame will be at the Olympics now.

            it was the athletes who made this disgrace ... mind you, Vova didn’t tell anyone that with two hands for a trip to the Olympics ... he just said that they decide ... and then the athletes didn’t have the brains to do it themselves refuse a trip !!! wink yes So I’m finally against the trip ... I believe that the collective decision of the athletes about the trip will seriously come back to us !! wassat wassat wassat
            Quote: Bakht
            What a strange conclusion. Well, a few dissidents would go. What a disgrace?

            you do not want to finally look forward !!!! request request request laughing laughing laughing
            1. Bakht
              Bakht 12 December 2017 19: 01 New
              +1
              Just forward and look ....
              So I do not understand you.
              And finally, you never know what athletes want. Here IOC has already rejected six. And for life .. And another 46 cases are pending. Where is the righteous anger against the IOC, which "destroyed the meaning of the lifespan of athletes"?
              1. Nikolai Grek
                Nikolai Grek 12 December 2017 19: 05 New
                +1
                Quote: Bakht
                Just forward and look ....
                So I do not understand you.
                And finally, you never know what athletes want. Here IOC has already rejected six. And for life .. And another 46 cases are pending. Where is the righteous anger against the IOC, which "destroyed the meaning of the lifespan of athletes"?

                I said about that, when Vova was announced as a boycott, this would have served a very poor service against him and against the country !!! wassat wassat wassat he tactfully granted the right to choice to athletes, which they magically failed !!!! wink yes lol lol lol and then they will seriously pay for this disastrous choice ... humiliation is yet to come !!! good good good laughing laughing laughing
    2. Vadmir
      Vadmir 11 December 2017 14: 19 New
      +4
      Not just the majority, but from 66 to 73% according to various polls.
      Yes, at least 99,9% of neither sportsmen nor sports officials care about the opinion of any people there. And then, as they wrote right here, these very athletes will become officials and deputies and will rule this very people (however, in such an environment the word people is not held in high esteem, other epithets are used there).
      1. sharp-lad
        sharp-lad 11 December 2017 22: 44 New
        +3
        Surnames and faces of faces remember! That would not be wrong when choosing! Show and explain to your little ones your attitude to the "heroes".
  45. Sige
    Sige 11 December 2017 13: 56 New
    +9
    Athletes are bought and sold as dung.
    They have a homeland where they get paid more.
  46. Conductor
    Conductor 11 December 2017 13: 58 New
    0
    Only here is the money for victories and other nishtyaki also not for the budget set? Yes? And then something just surrendered, but to the end.
  47. prior
    prior 11 December 2017 13: 59 New
    +4
    And what, does the IOC in the Charter really have the right to strip the national teams of the Flag and Anthem?
    Then why such an IOC?
  48. Makarov
    Makarov 11 December 2017 13: 59 New
    +7
    I would like to know in the face of all the heroes who refused this "honor" to go to these gatherings ...
  49. Forever so
    Forever so 11 December 2017 14: 01 New
    +7
    Personally, I will not brand anyone. Just in my understanding, pedestrians will now join the power of pederasty. Moral choice is everyone’s personal rubicon. Now it’s clear why the government is so vigorously promoting athletes, ready-for-sale substance, in all its structures.
  50. Million
    Million 11 December 2017 14: 06 New
    +3
    That's right! We must speak to our athletes at the Olympics! And speak so that there is no shame in Russia!
    Athletes should not pay for the inaction of worthless officials and politicians
    1. Bakht
      Bakht 11 December 2017 14: 59 New
      +1
      "We don’t want a situation where Only fifth and sixth numbers will be invited to the Games national team, but no leaders. "
      And how are they going to win? Yes, even without their trainers and doctors ...
      1. Million
        Million 11 December 2017 15: 32 New
        0
        let's see how things turn out.
    2. Nikolai Grek
      Nikolai Grek 12 December 2017 00: 06 New
      +2
      Quote: Million
      And to speak out so that it would not be a shame for Russia!

      what's the point ?? anyway, then, under some pretext, they will select the medals in a couple of months or years !!! wink laughing laughing laughing
      1. Bakht
        Bakht 12 December 2017 15: 46 New
        +1
        I even know the reason why they’ll be taken. Rodchenkov will present irrefutable evidence that the "Olympic athletes from Russia" wore underpants with the symbols of the country. And at night they sang the Anthem under the covers.
        1. Nikolai Grek
          Nikolai Grek 12 December 2017 19: 01 New
          +1
          Quote: Bakht
          I even know the reason why they’ll be taken. Rodchenkov will present irrefutable evidence that the "Olympic athletes from Russia" wore underpants with the symbols of the country. And at night they sang the Anthem under the covers.

          laughing laughing laughing in principle, if nothing changes after the absurdity on the part of the moka, then they will take away without Rodchenkov ... at the future moment of the selection of medals, the topic with shorts and a blanket will not be shed .... they’ll come up with some new get along with test tubes ... or mistakes in the selection of athletes !!! and further in the future, cowards may be attributed with subsequent "selection" of medals !!! wassat wassat wassat laughing laughing laughing
    3. Foxmara
      Foxmara 12 December 2017 16: 07 New
      +2
      Quote: Million
      That's right! We must speak to our athletes at the Olympics! And speak so that there is no shame in Russia!

      They won’t give. When it is not the athlete who wins, but the lawyer, ours have no chances, this is not our system and the lawyers are there. Zadornov predicted this by the way.