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An American officer spoke about the "barrel" of the F-4 fighter around the Tu-95.

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US Air Force Lt. Col. Robert Siler told The Aviationist portal about how American fighter-interceptors in the 1970-s performed aerobatics next to the Soviet strategic bombers.




On the eve of the resource published photos, which captured the Soviet Tu-95 and the interceptor F-4 Phantom II at the time of the "barrel" - "turn to 360 degrees around the horizontal axis while maintaining the direction of flight." The author of the pictures was himself Siler, who served at that time as a navigator-operator of on-board armament systems.



The episode captured on film occurred at the end of 1973, the beginning of 1974, near Iceland.

According to the former navigator, “at that time, the United States Air Force intercepted twice a week the Bears (Bear - Tu-95 in NATO codification),” and this usually happened “on Fridays and Sundays when Soviet aircraft made training flights from Murmansk to Cuba.



We called these flights entertaining. As a rule, we made "barrels" at the request of Soviet crews. They gave signals when they wanted us to do the trick, and also took pictures of us,
quotes Silera RIA News.

The officer stressed that the maneuvers were not dangerous. In addition, "in those years, the Cold War slowed down, and relations between the military improved," he added.
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  1. svp67
    svp67 10 December 2017 14: 51
    28
    Well, of course, since this NATO pilot was far from safe, this is all normal ... and if ours ...
    The crew of the Tu-95 - guys with steel eggs. Well done. NATO pilots and less are crap.
    1. Jedi
      Jedi 10 December 2017 14: 54
      19
      Quote: svp67
      Well, of course, since this NATO pilot was far from a safe maneuver, then this is all normal ... but if ours ...

      Double standards in the West have not been canceled. wink
      Quote: svp67
      The crew of the Tu-95 - guys with steel eggs. Well done. NATO pilots and less are crap.

      I subscribe to every word.
      1. Going
        Going 10 December 2017 15: 46
        17
        Good afternoon, Maxim! hi in those days, the military treated each other with respect, although they understood that they could kill.
    2. 210ox
      210ox 10 December 2017 14: 55
      +5
      And ours do not do a "democratic" maneuver. For the rules of Amerz etiquette prescribe before this to become in the pose "Ku!"
      Quote: svp67
      Well, of course, since this NATO pilot was far from a safe maneuver, then this is all normal ... but if ours ...
      The crew of the Tu-95 - guys with steel eggs. Well done. NATO pilots and less are crap.
      1. 79807420129
        79807420129 10 December 2017 15: 14
        14
        Quote: 210ox
        And ours do not do a “democratic” maneuver. For the rules of Amerz etiquette prescribe before this to become in the pose "Ku!

        They will manage, let them stand in a knee-pose. wink Video is a bit old hi
        1. PROXOR
          PROXOR 11 December 2017 13: 54
          0
          Between the engines, such two fools hang. I think very long-range.
      2. Scoun
        Scoun 10 December 2017 17: 15
        13
        Quote: 210ox
        And ours do not do a "democratic" maneuver.

        Heh ... these are not our democratic maneuvers ... the mattresses would like to squeeze out a protest, but they could not because they loaded planes.

    3. Vadivak
      Vadivak 10 December 2017 15: 04
      13
      Quote: ......
      As a rule, we made barrels at the request of Soviet crews.

      Key phrase. Like it or not, the concepts were ......
    4. TsUS-Air Force
      TsUS-Air Force 10 December 2017 16: 56
      +1
      so now it’s happening, it’s worth a little bit to fly up to their planes so they’ll immediately be hysterical about the safety of interceptions and flights
      1. Serg koma
        Serg koma 10 December 2017 18: 46
        +2
        Quote: NOC-VVS
        so now it’s happening it’s worth a little bit to fly up to their planes

    5. starpur
      starpur 10 December 2017 18: 57
      +7
      Safe maneuvers. Hmm ... There were a couple of cases over the Atlantic. Phantom climbed into the screws “Bear”, What happened to the pilots - I do not know, ours came home on two engines, all alive. Second episode: two F-16s collided in front of the Tu-18, one managed to leave the office, the second did not. Ours came home on one engine. Safe - this is on the ground, in the parking lot, after the flight.
    6. Juborg
      Juborg 10 December 2017 20: 36
      +2
      Quote: svp67
      Well, of course, since this NATO pilot was far from safe, this is all normal ... and if ours ...
      The crew of the Tu-95 - guys with steel eggs. Well done. NATO pilots and less are crap.



      Therefore, in the US and NATO armies, PAMPERS are practiced. laughing
  2. solzh
    solzh 10 December 2017 14: 51
    +5
    But now NATO at the sight of Russian planes put in their pants. Chopped their flight crew. And ours were still hussars, and remained, it is in our blood.
    1. creak
      creak 10 December 2017 15: 36
      +9
      Quote: solzh
      But now NATO at the sight of Russian planes put in their pants. Chopped their flight crew, and ours were like hussars ...

      How they put in their pants - this is visible to any hussar, even from the couch ..... fellow
      1. svp67
        svp67 10 December 2017 15: 56
        +6
        Quote: ranger
        How they put in their pants - this is visible to any hussar, even from the couch .....

        It is seen? No ... He Smell feels ... Not that enemy has become, not that. That one. ISIS fell into all sorts ... Or maybe it’s for the best.
        1. creak
          creak 10 December 2017 16: 07
          +2
          Quote: svp67
          It is seen? No ... He smells.

          Like in that cartoon:
          And the scent of a dog
          And an eagle's eye ...
          In a word - your favorite city can sleep peacefully ....
  3. kpd
    kpd 10 December 2017 14: 53
    +4
    Not "around," but "next to."
  4. Hunter
    Hunter 10 December 2017 14: 53
    +4
    Well done Yankees ..! There was no sense in this, as they flew and flew .. And our hooligans are doing this now .. hehe
    1. svp67
      svp67 10 December 2017 14: 59
      12
      Quote: Hunter
      .And our hooligans are doing this now .. hehe

      Fact. Only here they are not "fuligans", but DEFENDERS. Those who are ready not only to "play a trick", but also to risk their lives, in order to save others. Su-30SM PROTECTS IL-76 from the arrival of missiles, during the dumping of humanitarian aid in Syria
      1. opus
        opus 10 December 2017 16: 55
        +4
        Quote: svp67
        Su-30MM PROTECTS IL-76 from the arrival of missiles

        Yes, it's bullshit.
        How and what can protect IL-76 from this position?
        Shl. The guys just have fun.
        Quote: svp67
        from the arrival of missiles, during the dumping of humanitarian aid in Syria

        what kind of "missiles" are there in syria and who.
        and how can he protect against them?

        station EW "Sorption" -NO

        modules EW "Khibiny" - the same is not


        "no" in the sense of: have not been set for this episode (video).
        1. svp67
          svp67 10 December 2017 17: 18
          +2
          Quote: opus
          How and what can protect IL-76 from this position?

          How can. As a HEAT TRAP, that would bring trouble from Ilyusha. Heroic guys
          1. opus
            opus 10 December 2017 18: 34
            +2
            Quote: svp67
            As a heat trap


            Yes, il-76
            4xTRDD D-30KP, ser. Xnumx
            They "sound" like an open-hearth furnace.
            Shl. I don’t presume to judge, but judging by the video, the humanitarian aid reset level from 4000 ... what kind of MANPADS with IR?
            1. svp67
              svp67 10 December 2017 18: 39
              +2
              Quote: opus
              They "sound" like an open-hearth furnace.

              Yes, yes ... and two "drying" engines like a half open-hearth ... and if confused, then enough for a rocket ...
              Quote: opus
              Shl. I don’t presume to judge, but judging by the video, the humanitarian aid reset level from 4000 ... what kind of MANPADS with IR?

              Yes, a little lower than 5000 ... and the “barmalei” may not only have the “people's avengers”
        2. svp67
          svp67 10 December 2017 17: 20
          +2
          Quote: opus
          station EW "Sorption" -NO
          modules EW "Khibiny" - the same is not

          Yes, yes ... for the finished target, for all kinds of missiles. According to ALL parameters. And there is enough skill. The main thing is that the transporter leaves, whole.
        3. Serg koma
          Serg koma 10 December 2017 18: 36
          +1
          Quote: opus
          How and from what you can protect IL-76

          It is noted that On November 23, in the airspace above the western coast of the Euphrates, the American F-22 fighter actively prevented a Russian pair of Su-25 attack aircraft from performing a combat mission to destroy the ISIS stronghold in the suburbs of Al-Mayadin.
          “The F-22 aircraft fired heat traps and released brake flaps with constant maneuvering, simulating aerial combat.
          After the appearance of a number of Russian multi-purpose super-maneuverable Su-35S fighter, the American fighter stopped dangerous maneuvers and hastened to retire into Iraqi airspace, ”the department said.

          .......... On September 12, 1988, the MiG-23MLD group from the 120th IAP flew to strike at targets in the Kunar River valley east of Asadabad. Pakistani F-16 attacked the MiG-23MLD (board number 55) captain Sergei Privalov and inflicted damage to him.
          ............ Went in complete radio silence, tracking each other's sights ... Iran was beneath them ... It was not possible to get the ceiling right away - it's hot ... We landed in Syria. Tasks completed and went to the Union, but already through Turkey. Here, the group was attacked by NATO F-4. Two launches by themselves were observed by pilots ... However, the Turks missed: Drying went higher ...

          Hope for “FRIENDS”, but don’t be too bad.
          1. opus
            opus 10 December 2017 18: 56
            +1
            Quote: Serg Koma
            Hope for “FRIENDS”, but don’t be too bad.

            the key here was
            Quote: opus
            How and from what you can protect IL-76 from that position?

            meaning position SU-30СМ.

            on
            Quote: svp67
            Su-30SM PROTECTS IL-76 from the arrival of rockets, during the dumping of humanitarian aid in Syria


            and so, yes, that's right, covered

            like this
            1. svp67
              svp67 10 December 2017 19: 06
              +1
              Quote: opus
              like this

              No, roughly in the form of a HEAT and RADAR target.
              1. opus
                opus 10 December 2017 22: 40
                0
                Quote: svp67
                in the form of HEAT and RADAR target.

                crying
                The average cost of one Su-30СМ is about 1,5 billion rubles

                И
                From open sources - the cost of the previous modification of the aircraft - IL-76TD-90VD, delivered by the Tashkent plant to Volga-Dnepr Airlines, was indicated within 50-55 million dollars, the UAC documents for the year appear price 1111 million rubles - This is generally 36,5 million dollars. Let it be 55 million dollars.


                I somehow don’t understand such frauds economically
                Quote: svp67
                in the form of HEAT and RADAR target.



                on the video is not IL-76MD-90, also known as IL-476

                On October 4 2013, an official contract was signed with Aviastar-SP CJSC for the supply of 39 Il-76-MD-90A transport aircraft for the needs of the Russian Ministry of Defense. The amount of this contract amounted to 140 billion rubles ..

                140 billion rubles: 39 = 3,59 billion rubles, and that would be a pity for such a bait as SU-30СМ, although it is 60% cheaper.
                Shl.
                Quote: opus
                4xTRDD D-30KP, ser. Xnumx
                They "sound" like an open-hearth furnace.

                PS-90A-76, which have even greater traction and heat.
                It will hover (that is radar, that IK) on IL-76 = stopudovo, SU-30Sm, will ignore
                1. svp67
                  svp67 11 December 2017 08: 29
                  +1
                  Quote: opus
                  I somehow don’t understand such frauds economically

                  The fact is that the Su-30 has a chance to “disrupt” the seizure, while Il has no such capabilities ...
                  1. opus
                    opus 11 December 2017 12: 06
                    0
                    Quote: svp67
                    Yes, the fact that Su-30 has a chance to "break" the seizure

                    interesting...
                    how?
                    IKGSN will hover over Il (or his traps, if any, they have a tad more of them)
                    ARGSN (or PaGSN), which the bogeyles do not have on the ground, but the "partners" on the aircraft, will hover over the IL, even if SU was captured, well, except for the latter, with a digital signal processor and selection along the RLO contour.
                    Yes, in any case, they will bring down IL (although it was cheaper, it was, but with a load it is more important and more expensive).
                    ===============================================
                    SU covered only from the coalition aviation, or rather, morally pressured it (because the train was not the same), but supported ours
  5. Retvizan 8
    Retvizan 8 10 December 2017 15: 00
    +2
    Well done, that our pilots were entertained, and the path is not close, it’s boring to fly, and there’s a "show" on you!
    1. svp67
      svp67 10 December 2017 15: 06
      +3
      Quote: Retvizan 8
      but the path is not close, it’s boring to fly, and then there’s a "show" on you

      Interestingly, the ANT-20 crew also thought ...
      1. Razvedka_Boem
        Razvedka_Boem 10 December 2017 15: 19
        +2
        svp67 Today, 15: 06
        Interestingly, the ANT-20 crew also thought ...


        As a rule, we made barrels at the request of Soviet crews. They gave signals when they wanted us to do the trick, and also took pictures of us
        1. svp67
          svp67 10 December 2017 15: 22
          +2
          Quote: Razvedka_Boem
          As a rule

          Nevertheless, this does not cancel my question about the crew of "Maxim Gorky"
          1. iliitchitch
            iliitchitch 10 December 2017 16: 33
            +1
            Quote: svp67
            Nevertheless, this does not cancel my question about the crew of "Maxim Gorky"

            The goat killed people. The horns in the hands are by no means a victory. Think Do Not Think ...
          2. Razvedka_Boem
            Razvedka_Boem 10 December 2017 17: 01
            +1
            Nevertheless, this does not cancel my question about the crew of "Maxim Gorky"

            Obscene words are the most used in emergency situations.
            1. svp67
              svp67 10 December 2017 17: 20
              +1
              Quote: Razvedka_Boem
              Obscene words are the most used in emergency situations.

              Thats exactly what I mean...
  6. iliitchitch
    iliitchitch 10 December 2017 15: 08
    +3
    Touched by "training (!) Flight from Murmansk to Cuba" laughing laughing laughing . Bullshit, a pair of bast shoes on the Globe. Not otherwise, Fidel was brought boxing gloves for Theofilo Stevenson. In our time, Dm. Kiselyov for the All-Russian State Automobile Conference will sound about THIS in full. Achievement, yes. Rudolfich’s analysts are also sucking up the topic. We are getting smaller.
  7. Rusland
    Rusland 10 December 2017 15: 08
    10
    At least some kind of entertainment, pictures for memory, purely human communication, as much as possible when performing a combat mission.
  8. Mwg
    Mwg 10 December 2017 15: 13
    +2
    Alas, they have nothing to brag about except for the achievements of 35 years ago.
    But the maneuver is "unsafe" in accordance with the rhetoric of the US Air Force. What are they bragging about ???
  9. Raf01
    Raf01 10 December 2017 15: 17
    +8
    In short, everyone misses the USSR. Even the Americans.
    1. svp67
      svp67 10 December 2017 15: 23
      +5
      Quote: Raf01
      In short, everyone misses the USSR. Even the Americans.

      They are still HOW. ISIS, Shmegil, for them the wrong level ...
  10. Bronevick
    Bronevick 10 December 2017 15: 28
    +2
    In times of time. Training flights to Cuba on strategic bombers.
  11. Vlad5307
    Vlad5307 10 December 2017 16: 05
    +2
    Quote: Bronevick
    In times of time. Training flights to Cuba on strategic bombers.

    And now you have to fly for "educational" purposes only to Syria and vice versa, and even not on the Bears, which it would be time to make a replacement, and not intentions to demonstrate in the media! soldier
    1. askort154
      askort154 10 December 2017 18: 22
      +1
      Vlad5307 ....on the Bears, which it’s time to make a replacement, and not the intentions to demonstrate in the media!

      The United States plans to operate the B-52 for another 40 years.
      The last one was released in 1987. The last Tu-95 was launched in 1992.
  12. askort154
    askort154 10 December 2017 18: 00
    +2
    , "Bullies" both sides always - adrenaline does not have a nationality. It was more often when approaching aircraft carriers to remove the radius of action of its fighters. There were cases leading to disasters on both sides. In the mid-70s, Brezhnev and Nixon signed a joint agreement to ensure flight safety in such situations. Minimum distances were established for such maneuvers. They have not been canceled so far. But the pilot will not be a pilot, so as not to try to "fly under the bridge." In the combat zone, these rules do not apply unless agreed upon in advance. Therefore, in Syria, both sides coordinate flight zones. But, the pilot is a pilot, check the opponent is not "lice" - in the blood. good
    1. Anyone
      Anyone 10 December 2017 18: 55
      +3
      That's why the personnel policy of the airline where I flew was as follows: no military pilots))
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  14. Stoler
    Stoler 10 December 2017 20: 03
    0
    I remember around "Maxim Gorky" one like that cut barrels. And how did it end? fool
  15. Romanenko
    Romanenko 10 December 2017 21: 08
    +1
    We ended up seeing decent pilots in the states, the current ones panic and change diapers when Drying flies closer to them 100 meters
  16. Vadim Sh.
    Vadim Sh. 10 December 2017 22: 15
    0
    Long live the Russian Aerospace Forces, law receivers of the USSR Air Force.
  17. gukoyan
    gukoyan 11 December 2017 08: 38
    0
    Well, well, and someone else yells that our VKS are not professionally and not safely making intercepts.
  18. mr.ZinGer
    mr.ZinGer 11 December 2017 09: 00
    0
    This barrel is not a loop and this figure cannot be made around the plane. And comments about the cowardly NATO pilots ...
    You yourself have seen this or it’s enough for you that you said on the box.
  19. lukewarm
    lukewarm 11 December 2017 09: 27
    0
    And, I understand what the chip !!!
    We called these flights entertaining. As a rule, we made "barrels" at the request of Soviet crews. They gave signals when they wanted us to do the trick, and also took pictures of us,
    quotes Siler RIA Novosti.

    Ours asked - it means a maneuver "professional and safe." Now the wrong American has gone ... They’re not asking. So our barrels are doing "unprofessional and unsafe" laughing Well, because "without application"
    In general, I think professionalism fell among amers - they were obsessed with security
  20. Vard
    Vard 11 December 2017 09: 37
    0
    My father’s brother served on this plane as a shooter ... in the aft cabin ... somehow he said behind a glass of tea how they were intercepted by fighters ... there was an unwritten rule, do not go into the tail ... once they violated the rule and he gave warning turn ... the fighter darted so that it fell into a tailspin ...
  21. Conductor
    Conductor 11 December 2017 09: 45
    0
    During Afghanistan, ours dropped on our bomb, FAB 100, like, The one who is lower in dust. Why not drop that thread like that. And say that it’s my fault.