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On American fighters F-15 install laser weapons

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The Pentagon has signed a contract with the American company Lockheed Martin to develop a laser for the 2021 year weapons for the American F-15 fighter aircraft, the Wall Street Journal reported.


On American fighters F-15 install laser weapons


According to the publication, in the framework of the deal on 26 million dollars the company must supply weapons for fighters capable of shooting down missiles and drones from a distance of 1609 kilometers.

At the same time, the American defense ministry expects to get a laser with a power of about 50 kilowatts, which is five times more than the largest industrial laser. The Pentagon hopes that in the future the power of weapons on fighters can be increased to 100-150 kilowatts.

Add that in August, Lockheed Martin has tested a laser machine to destroy unmanned aerial vehicles, reports RIA News
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US Air Force photo / Senior Airman Erin Trower
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  1. Sergey53
    Sergey53 9 December 2017 11: 07 New
    14
    Probably swarms of drones are going to shoot down? But the light beam travels in a straight line. How do they imagine this at the declared range?
    1. Jedi
      Jedi 9 December 2017 11: 10 New
      26
      At the same time, the American defense ministry expects to get a laser with a power of about 50 kilowatts, which is five times more than the largest industrial laser. The Pentagon hopes that in the future the power of weapons on fighters can be increased to 100-150 kilowatts.

      And will the laser power source behind the leash for the F-15 fly? belay
      1. Smog
        Smog 9 December 2017 11: 20 New
        +6
        Quote: Jedi
        And will the laser power source behind the leash for the F-15 fly?

        Duc, this ... tea on the wire .... From the ground of the mother, the laser will feed the laser with lipestrism ..... lol
        Hi, bro! drinks soldier
        1. Jedi
          Jedi 9 December 2017 11: 22 New
          +7
          Kostya, big boules! soldier drinks It seems that the sum is not very large - 26 million candy wrappers, but should it be enough for a cut and a summer house in California? wink lol
          1. askort154
            askort154 9 December 2017 11: 50 New
            +5
            Jedi ..... It seems that the sum is not very large - 26 million candy wrappers, but should it be enough for a cut and a summer house in California?

            Max hi They spent 1 billion on the YAL -747A project (together with Israel) on the basis of the B-400-5,3-AF, and as a result, the project was closed. yes
            1. Jedi
              Jedi 9 December 2017 11: 55 New
              +6
              Alexander hi
              Quote: askort154
              They spent 1 billion on the YAL -747A project (together with Israel) on the basis of the B-400-5,3-AF, and as a result, the project was closed.

              So I think that 26 million is just the beginning. Appetite with food comes. wink
              1. Vladimir16
                Vladimir16 9 December 2017 12: 17 New
                +9
                Rumor has it that all the pilots of the Efs -16, 18, 22 and 35 next year will be equipped with Jedi swords.
                But this is classified information. No one !!!
                1. Jedi
                  Jedi 9 December 2017 12: 35 New
                  +4
                  Quote: Vladimir16
                  Rumor has it that all the pilots of the Efs -16, 18, 22 and 35 next year will be equipped with Jedi swords.

                  Oh how! Only not the Jedi, but the Sith. wink lol
                  1. bulvas
                    bulvas 9 December 2017 12: 45 New
                    +2
                    hi
                    Quote: Jedi
                    At the same time, the American defense ministry expects to get a laser with a power of about 50 kilowatts, which is five times more than the largest industrial laser. The Pentagon hopes that in the future the power of weapons on fighters can be increased to 100-150 kilowatts.

                    And will the laser power source behind the leash for the F-15 fly? belay


                    Why behind?
                    Refueling type, only higher and the F-15 group will be connected to it by wire
                    1. Jedi
                      Jedi 9 December 2017 12: 49 New
                      +4
                      hi
                      Quote: bulvas
                      Why behind?
                      Refueling type, only higher and the F-15 group will be connected to it by wire

                      It doesn’t matter: front or back. A surrealistic picture looms. wassat
                      1. IL-18
                        IL-18 9 December 2017 13: 26 New
                        +3
                        Chubais © is to blame. He promised them to do it in Rosnanoh and donate it for $ 25 million. a nanolaser with a nanoelectric power plant (after all, the EU RAO sawed).
                  2. poquello
                    poquello 9 December 2017 13: 17 New
                    +1
                    Quote: Jedi
                    Quote: Vladimir16
                    Rumor has it that all the pilots of the Efs -16, 18, 22 and 35 next year will be equipped with Jedi swords.

                    Oh how! Only not the Jedi, but the Sith. wink lol

                    nifiga! to each Jedi sword on Yoda, and toss into the enemy’s plane in the window
                  3. 8Schlaf
                    8Schlaf 9 December 2017 15: 38 New
                    +3
                    Where did you gather information of special importance? This was classified intelligence.
                  4. Paranoid50
                    Paranoid50 9 December 2017 19: 14 New
                    +3
                    Quote: Jedi
                    and the Sith.

                    And, as always, only two of them: a striped teacher and a six-pointed student. yes
          2. Smog
            Smog 9 December 2017 11: 50 New
            +2
            Quote: Jedi
            should I have enough for a cut and a summer house in California?

            In a rusty belt, there are finally pennies at home, that is, cents are standing. bully
            1. Jedi
              Jedi 9 December 2017 11: 56 New
              +4
              Dashing trouble - the beginning, friend. As always, additional funds will be allocated for doping. lol
          3. Dart2027
            Dart2027 10 December 2017 10: 31 New
            +1
            Quote: Jedi
            It seems and not very large amount - 26 million candy wrappers

            So it is now, and by 2021 there will be 2600 million.
      2. Chertt
        Chertt 9 December 2017 11: 25 New
        +2
        Quote: Jedi
        And will the laser power source behind the leash for the F-15 fly?

        Maybe finally decrypted Nikola Tesla's notes
        1. Jedi
          Jedi 9 December 2017 11: 28 New
          +5
          If decrypted, then they would already have trumpeted the whole galaxy about it.
      3. sabakina
        sabakina 9 December 2017 11: 28 New
        +5
        Quote: Jedi
        And will the laser power source behind the leash for the F-15 fly? belay

        Max and everyone else, prYuvet! Well, the Russians have the expression "take 100 grams with a trailer" ... wink
        1. Michael67
          Michael67 9 December 2017 11: 37 New
          +3
          Whistle. Breshet. They lie.
          Loot sawed. Then they will ask for the same improvements. It was already. Well and impressionable scare.
          A "1609 kilometers" - finally fiction. Although, maybe the article was wrong.
          1. Solomon Kane
            Solomon Kane 9 December 2017 11: 56 New
            +4
            The main thing is that the beam is seen by the first 3 km. and there ..... let them prove that he is no further .....
      4. poquello
        poquello 9 December 2017 11: 56 New
        +2
        Quote: Jedi
        At the same time, the American defense ministry expects to get a laser with a power of about 50 kilowatts, which is five times more than the largest industrial laser. The Pentagon hopes that in the future the power of weapons on fighters can be increased to 100-150 kilowatts.

        And will the laser power source behind the leash for the F-15 fly? belay

        What for?

        Made in USSR: cosmonaut laser pistol

        Source: http://fishki.net/1238261-sdelano-v-sssr-lazernyj
        -pistolet-kosmonavta.html © Fishki.net
        1. Jedi
          Jedi 9 December 2017 12: 01 New
          +5
          This gun had a capacity of not 50 kilowatts. yes
          1. poquello
            poquello 9 December 2017 12: 05 New
            +2
            Quote: Jedi
            This gun had a capacity of not 50 kilowatts. yes

            and it was a long time ago, maybe it’s finished, and they don’t have a gun - they can blind drones and go, but it’s more convenient to jam drones
            1. Jedi
              Jedi 9 December 2017 12: 39 New
              +4
              With declared power, this laser should simply burn drones. But after all, he requires energy too. So I imagine a picture in oil: F-15 with a laser on board, and the back of the cable - "Hercules" as a battery. lol
              1. poquello
                poquello 9 December 2017 13: 13 New
                +1
                Quote: Jedi
                With declared power, this laser should simply burn drones. But after all, he requires energy too. So I imagine a picture in oil: F-15 with a laser on board, and the back of the cable - "Hercules" as a battery. lol

                no, IMHO, there is no oat-flakes there - a pulsed shot or in chemistry like in a Soviet pistol or condensate tvh - actually why on f15, because it will glow like a Christmas tree -)) it is very secretive, I’m interested in another troupe there - they will check the channel cleanliness with a low-power laser well, but they’ll aim at 1600km as they will, network center (if any) will not provide a sight for transmission delay will always be, and an attack by a drone is declared, and it’s mobile
                1. Jedi
                  Jedi 9 December 2017 13: 16 New
                  +4
                  There are much more questions than answers, why many come to the conclusion that this is another cut. And as an example, the railgun can be remembered. bully
                2. Aviator_
                  Aviator_ 9 December 2017 19: 04 New
                  +1
                  Naturally, the pulse, but the pulse time is not bashfully reported.
                  1. poquello
                    poquello 9 December 2017 19: 13 New
                    +2
                    Quote: Aviator_
                    Naturally, the pulse, but the pulse time is not bashfully reported.

                    so these are all the plans
                3. Victor Dubovitsky
                  Victor Dubovitsky 9 December 2017 20: 44 New
                  +2
                  Quote: poquello
                  Quote: Jedi
                  With declared power, this laser should simply burn drones. But after all, he requires energy too. So I imagine a picture in oil: F-15 with a laser on board, and the back of the cable - "Hercules" as a battery. lol

                  no, IMHO, there is no oat-flakes there - a pulsed shot or in chemistry like in a Soviet pistol or condensate tvh - actually why on f15, because it will glow like a Christmas tree -)) it is very secretive, I’m interested in another troupe there - they will check the channel cleanliness with a low-power laser well, but they’ll aim at 1600km as they will, network center (if any) will not provide a sight for transmission delay will always be, and an attack by a drone is declared, and it’s mobile

                  Not about that. The horizon of 1600 kilometers opens from a height of 120-140 km. A ray of light is not a rocket; it does not know how to turn over the horizon. But how to lift an airplane to such a height?
                  1. poquello
                    poquello 9 December 2017 22: 01 New
                    +1
                    Quote: Victor Dubovitsky
                    The horizon of 1600 kilometers opens from a height of 120-140 km. A ray of light is not a rocket; it does not know how to turn over the horizon. But how to lift an airplane to such a height?

                    yes, but what's the difference, will there be a telescope on the sight? don't think
                    1. Victor Dubovitsky
                      Victor Dubovitsky 10 December 2017 00: 17 New
                      +2
                      Quote: poquello
                      Quote: Victor Dubovitsky
                      The horizon of 1600 kilometers opens from a height of 120-140 km. A ray of light is not a rocket; it does not know how to turn over the horizon. But how to lift an airplane to such a height?

                      yes, but what's the difference, will there be a telescope on the sight? don't think

                      Hubble will probably pick it up.
              2. Piramidon
                Piramidon 9 December 2017 16: 41 New
                +1
                Quote: Jedi
                So I imagine a picture in oil: F-15 with a laser on board, and the back of the cable - "Hercules" as a battery.

                What problems? They will put a nuclear reactor from Fokusima or from Chernobyl on the F-15, they can now be bought at a cheap price. good
      5. cariperpaint
        cariperpaint 9 December 2017 12: 26 New
        +6
        not))) there the second pilot will pedal under the power engineer)
      6. Dead duck
        Dead duck 9 December 2017 13: 33 New
        +5
        Quote: Jedi
        And will the laser power source behind the leash for the F-15 fly?

        Be healthy hi drinks
        Disposable can. Like with "pumping from the explosion."
        The principle of operation has been worked out for a long time. In theory, 6-8 pieces will be placed on the suspension and "let them be happy."
        Although you can get into a block on 5-7 pieces. It will be even more convenient.
        1. Jedi
          Jedi 9 December 2017 14: 15 New
          +3
          Vitaliy, hi! hi drinks Well, let's see what the Americans conjure. wink
      7. Troll
        Troll 9 December 2017 14: 02 New
        +2
        Quote: Jedi
        And will the laser power source behind the leash for the F-15 fly?


        For a long time, from the time of the SDI and the Soviet Union, the military in experiments on the fly use chemical lasers. In a very, very rough approximation: the necessary energy for the laser is conserved in chemical components. This is the same as in a bomb, until they click on the fuse, the bomb does not explode and energy is not released.
        1. Victor Dubovitsky
          Victor Dubovitsky 9 December 2017 14: 33 New
          +1
          Quote: Troll
          Quote: Jedi
          And will the laser power source behind the leash for the F-15 fly?


          For a long time, from the time of the SDI and the Soviet Union, the military in experiments on the fly use chemical lasers. In a very, very rough approximation: the necessary energy for the laser is conserved in chemical components. This is the same as in a bomb, until they click on the fuse, the bomb does not explode and energy is not released.

          How's your logic? If the laser efficiency is not more than 10%, then, therefore, the source energy should be 10-15 times greater than the beam energy. How to dissipate hundreds of kilowatts of energy in the limited space of the fuselage of an airplane? Take on board chemistry for one shot? But does the reloading system of cassettes with chemistry really take up space? Mendeleev’s formula, which calculates the energy value of ANY compound in your hands, and use it to calculate the amount of this chemical fuel for at least one shot.
          1. Troll
            Troll 9 December 2017 15: 55 New
            0
            1. In chemistry there is no such thing as energy value of the compound . There is energy value of foodbut it's a little different, isn't it? I want to show off erudition, to be more precise. At least when you use scientific terms.
            2. Experiments with chemical lasers on airplanes have and have been taking place, whether you like it or not.
            2. Chemical and not only lasers, despite the low efficiency, give out to the mountain much more power declared above. It's all about the pulse duration.
            1. Victor Dubovitsky
              Victor Dubovitsky 9 December 2017 16: 42 New
              +2
              Quote: Troll
              There is the energy value of food,

              He was not a cook or nutritionist. And I can’t say anything about the value of food.
          2. just exp
            just exp 9 December 2017 16: 22 New
            0
            even one shot that will be as the last chance to hit an SAM or UR explosive will already be fucking as demanded by the air force.
            the only question is the size of this shot and how it will be located.
            1. Victor Dubovitsky
              Victor Dubovitsky 9 December 2017 16: 51 New
              +1
              Quote: just EXPL
              even one shot that will be as the last chance to hit an SAM or UR explosive will already be fucking as demanded by the air force.
              the only question is the size of this shot and how it will be located.

              Answer only the question- HOW DO I GO? After all, the distance is solid. Correction after a shot, as this makes a homing weapon not made. Therefore, you need to aim so precisely that .... Neither your own vibrations, nor the optical errors, nor the aberration and other effects of the atmosphere, nor the calculation errors can be corrected here. The difference between firing from a heavy apparatus, a sort of iron and from a flickering fighter is a big difference.
              1. just exp
                just exp 9 December 2017 18: 07 New
                +1
                I'm talking about using a laser as a weapon of self-defense, that is, a type of laser KAZ for aircraft.
                there is a range of about 1km. at such distances, the laser is more than normal.
                the distance between lasers (if we are not talking about hundreds of kilometers) is far from the most important problem.
                1. Victor Dubovitsky
                  Victor Dubovitsky 9 December 2017 20: 47 New
                  +1
                  Quote: just EXPL
                  I'm talking about using a laser as a weapon of self-defense, that is, a type of laser KAZ for aircraft.
                  there is a range of about 1km. at such distances, the laser is more than normal.
                  the distance between lasers (if we are not talking about hundreds of kilometers) is far from the most important problem.

                  This is your suggestion. But then, if I am not mistaken, we are not talking about your proposal, but about something else?
                  1. just exp
                    just exp 9 December 2017 20: 54 New
                    0
                    "who are "we ?
                    if it’s about my participation, then for the most part I talked about BKO, and there lasers have been used for a long time, though so far only to blind the infrared seeker, but if you increase the power (so far more theoretically) they will be able to disable them, since SAM and SD explosives in size are still not ICBMs.
                    but IMHO at the moment this is more of a dream, in 10-15 years I think I’ll already appear in the gland.
      8. Tusv
        Tusv 9 December 2017 15: 33 New
        +1
        Quote: Jedi
        And will the laser power source behind the leash for the F-15 fly?

        And do you calculate how much the cable from Washington to our borders will cost?
        So everything is fine. George Lucas to give the Star of the Hero of Russia
      9. just exp
        just exp 9 December 2017 16: 01 New
        0
        I thought the same thing, so far I can only dream about 100-150 quatt.
        although if it is like Tesla's cars stuffed with Condors, then they can make one shot. and then xs how much to recharge.
        but there is a plus, with one shot they can shoot down one SAM or UR explosive, and this is a saved plane.
        but there are also disadvantages, 100-kW Condors are not so much lousy as they are expensive (against the background of the cost of the plane it’s a penny) their weight will interfere so much and there’s nowhere to shove them.
        1. Victor Dubovitsky
          Victor Dubovitsky 9 December 2017 16: 57 New
          +1
          Quote: just EXPL
          I thought the same thing, so far I can only dream about 100-150 quatt.
          although if it is like Tesla's cars stuffed with Condors, then they can make one shot. and then xs how much to recharge.
          but there is a plus, with one shot they can shoot down one SAM or UR explosive, and this is a saved plane.
          but there are also disadvantages, 100-kW Condors are not so much lousy as they are expensive (against the background of the cost of the plane it’s a penny) their weight will interfere so much and there’s nowhere to shove them.

          So you yourself answered your paradoxical question. The cost of Conders and the cost of the aircraft. To push one into the other, the cost of the Conder will be much more expensive than an airplane.
    2. Victor Dubovitsky
      Victor Dubovitsky 9 December 2017 11: 44 New
      +3
      Quote: Sergey53
      Probably swarms of drones are going to shoot down? But the light beam travels in a straight line. How do they imagine this at the declared range?

      Assistants put a network of mirrors in the path of the beam. To overwhelm the horizon.
    3. Simon
      Simon 9 December 2017 11: 45 New
      +2
      As you know, for lazar smoke, fog, thunderclouds and dust storms are an obstacle. Moreover, for this beam you need a large amount of energy, what kind of generator will they put on the plane or energy store, in the form of batteries? And in general, how much is all this enough, that is, how many times to pull? In the Union, similar tests with the lazar were passed and our scientists and engineers proved that it is very unprofitable and in general there is no sense in developing it. request
      1. Vadim237
        Vadim237 9 December 2017 12: 53 New
        +1
        Most likely the laser and the power plant will have to occupy the volume corresponding to the outboard fuel tank - a range of 1609 kilometers, a typo - 160 kilometers, the radar will pull the aircraft.
      2. Victor Dubovitsky
        Victor Dubovitsky 9 December 2017 17: 01 New
        +1
        Quote: Simon
        As you know, for lazar smoke, fog, thunderclouds and dust storms are an obstacle. Moreover, for this beam you need a large amount of energy, what kind of generator will they put on the plane or energy store, in the form of batteries? And in general, how much is all this enough, that is, how many times to pull? In the Union, similar tests with the lazar were passed and our scientists and engineers proved that it is very unprofitable and in general there is no sense in developing it. request

        Well, why, development is underway. Not so advanced, but in order to make sure that the Americans did not come up with anything like this behind us. The price of work depends on the degree of approximation to the iron. While it comes to mathematics, it generally costs a penny. And not to the prototype and laboratory sample, here you can do everything, but to the realities.
    4. siberalt
      siberalt 9 December 2017 13: 14 New
      0
      Ordinary American Ponte. It’s just that these planes became illiquidlol So much dough pounded on them, but there is no payback.
    5. RASKAT
      RASKAT 9 December 2017 14: 26 New
      +2
      What laser? Immediately put the railgun, that is nothing to trifle. wassat
    6. starogil
      starogil 9 December 2017 16: 25 New
      0
      This car has been flying for 40 years, and not bad, after all ..... I wonder when the SU-57 will fly into the troops?
    7. Chestnut
      Chestnut 9 December 2017 17: 02 New
      0
      Russia is shifted to the Stone Age.
      The Soviet reserve will end the year until 2030, but we do not have science (

      I am surprised to people who invent problems on the path of progress, they say the beam will dissipate, three tons of batteries, believe me, their scientists will solve these problems, and then the Soviet technology and weapons will turn into a pumpkin.
      1. Vadim237
        Vadim237 9 December 2017 17: 11 New
        +1
        The Soviet backlog ended - when the USSR did not fail.
  2. 210ox
    210ox 9 December 2017 11: 10 New
    +5
    Something is not glued. And why not on the F35? Dynamo does not fit?
    1. sabakina
      sabakina 9 December 2017 11: 31 New
      +5
      Dmitry, apparently, I read the headline inattentively, I thought the speech was about F-35. Right now I thought ... But how to insert a dynamo into a small bomb-gate?
      1. Victor Dubovitsky
        Victor Dubovitsky 9 December 2017 11: 45 New
        +3
        Quote: sabakina
        Dmitry, apparently, I read the headline inattentively, I thought the speech was about F-35. Right now I thought ... But how to insert a dynamo into a small bomb-gate?

        Apparently a nuclear-pumped laser. A kind of nuclear self-arrows.
        1. sabakina
          sabakina 9 December 2017 11: 51 New
          +4
          Victor, I heard something about nuclear tanks, about airplanes ....
          1. Smog
            Smog 9 December 2017 11: 59 New
            +2
            Glory! Everything is just just two three. Or the hatch is sawed up. Choose what you like best. Do not touch it, it's holy.
            Hi! drinks soldier
          2. Victor Dubovitsky
            Victor Dubovitsky 9 December 2017 14: 40 New
            0
            Quote: sabakina
            Victor, I heard something about nuclear tanks, about airplanes ....

            The Americans have already expressed this idea. When your SDI was advertised. In space, satellites with lasers and a charge. Single use. On Earth from such an outbreak of takennoy power, destruction equivalent to an explosion of several kilotons.
            Apparently, the grandmothers did not give in a decent amount, so they did not yet.
      2. 210ox
        210ox 9 December 2017 12: 02 New
        +2
        Glory hi By God I don’t know .. Well, probably in the little hatch there is even less dynamo .. Actually in Hollywood ("Men in Black") there was something .. some kind of "cricket" .. what
        Quote: sabakina
        Dmitry, apparently, I read the headline inattentively, I thought the speech was about F-35. Right now I thought ... But how to insert a dynamo into a small bomb-gate?
  3. smart ass
    smart ass 9 December 2017 11: 17 New
    +2
    3 comments and it’s all for the purpose) it makes sense to put a laser on an airplane that flew 40 years ago) the guys from the Pentagon are sawing
    1. Victor Dubovitsky
      Victor Dubovitsky 9 December 2017 11: 47 New
      +2
      Quote: Clever man
      3 comments and it’s all for the purpose) it makes sense to put a laser on an airplane that flew 40 years ago) the guys from the Pentagon are sawing

      ... and something very modest. Just for 26 lemons. This is how our comedian asked for three rubles to bribe the president.
      Maybe we did not understand the humor?
    2. Solomon Kane
      Solomon Kane 9 December 2017 11: 59 New
      +6
      Bullshit, that the plane is old, the main headlight is new .... laser ... wink laughing
      1. igordok
        igordok 9 December 2017 13: 27 New
        0
        1609 kilometers

        9 kilometers pinned me. Are they so punctual?
  4. Skay
    Skay 9 December 2017 11: 18 New
    +2
    The efficiency of the most economical fiber laser reaches 20-25%. Those. An airplane for a 50 kW laser must have a power source of 200 kW or more. Plus to existing sources.
    Those who know, tell me the power of the onboard network of a modern fighter.
    1. sabakina
      sabakina 9 December 2017 11: 40 New
      +5
      From wikipedia:
      For powering onboard equipment and aircraft systems, DC 28 volt current, single-phase or three-phase alternating current with 200/115 volt neutral, 400 Hz, three-phase alternating three-phase without neutral current 36 volt, 400 hertz linear voltage is used [1 ]. The total power of the generators on board can range from 20 kW for small aircraft or helicopters to 600 or more kW for heavy aircraft.
    2. Shahno
      Shahno 9 December 2017 11: 44 New
      +1
      Power. From two motors to 40- 50 kW of AC current in the hospital average. But I think your question is different.
    3. Victor Dubovitsky
      Victor Dubovitsky 9 December 2017 11: 56 New
      +2
      Quote: Skay
      The efficiency of the most economical fiber laser reaches 20-25%. Those. An airplane for a 50 kW laser must have a power source of 200 kW or more. Plus to existing sources.
      Those who know, tell me the power of the onboard network of a modern fighter.

      And you in vain took the most economical laser. You need to take the most powerful. Maybe this fiber can not give more than 10 watts? Hence the generator to estimate. Admire the 10 kilowatt monster.

      http://pro-samolet.ru/blog-pro-samolet/956-americ
      ans-experienced-combat-laser

      Picture at your service

      1. Skay
        Skay 9 December 2017 13: 02 New
        0
        And you in vain took the most economical laser.

        The higher the efficiency of the installation, the more compact and lighter the power source. Efficiency of solid-state YAG lasers up to 3%, CO2 lasers up to 10%.
        Quote: Victor Dubovitsky
        Maybe this fiber can not give more than 10 watts?

        Fiber lasers today are one of the most promising tools for metal processing. One of the leaders in the development of industrial lasers are the Russians (IPG Photonics). To date, they have achieved the power of a serial laser source of 100 kW.
        But still, yes, it’s a truck in size, and we don’t cram into a fighter.
        1. Shahno
          Shahno 9 December 2017 13: 29 New
          0
          Yes, in principle, with diode pumping, the efficiency reaches up to 35%.
    4. Piramidon
      Piramidon 9 December 2017 12: 21 New
      +2
      Quote: Skay
      Those who know, tell me the power of the onboard network of a modern fighter.

      I can’t say for fighters, but from experience of the service I know that on the Tu-95RTs on each engine (internal) there were 2 DC generators of 18 kW each and one alternating one for 30 kW. On external engines only 2 pcs. direct current.
      1. Mestny
        Mestny 9 December 2017 13: 23 New
        -1
        This is understandable, thanks for the info. This power is obviously necessary, with a certain margin, of course, to meet the needs of aircraft systems.
        The question is just how much you need to add to these numbers for the declared laser to work, and how technically feasible it is.
        Of course, the issue is relevant if they did not have a fundamental scientific breakthrough, probably with the help of reptilians.
        1. Piramidon
          Piramidon 9 December 2017 15: 23 New
          +1
          Quote: Mestny
          This power is obviously necessary, with a certain margin, of course, to meet the needs of aircraft systems.

          Of course. We have only mechanisms for the release and cleaning of the chassis "ate" more than 10 kW. in steady state, and peak loads (at the time of switching on) are three times more.
        2. Shahno
          Shahno 9 December 2017 15: 47 New
          0
          Add two aux. power plants. But plus, respectively, fuel. There are problems with placement, additional mass.
      2. siberalt
        siberalt 9 December 2017 13: 25 New
        +1
        Laser weapons in the atmosphere are inefficient.
    5. Tusv
      Tusv 9 December 2017 15: 41 New
      0
      Quote: Skay
      Those who know, tell me the power of the onboard network of a modern fighter.

      The Americans flew to the moon with 16 kilobytes of RAM. Now without 4 gigs, Windows will not take off, and you ask such questions bully drinks
  5. Altona
    Altona 9 December 2017 11: 19 New
    +6
    Another Utopia. The railgun was harnessed to Zumwalt, but could not be harnessed. Now they want to put a combat laser on the old fighter, apparently a second fighter with batteries will fly from behind. I don’t know how with military use, but a raven will do for scaring away.
    1. svp67
      svp67 9 December 2017 11: 22 New
      +5
      Quote: Altona
      Another Utopia.
      I agree
      Quote: Altona
      Now they want to put a laser on the old fighter, apparently a second fighter with batteries will fly from behind.

      And forward the laser beam, the “fan” will be sent to scatter clouds, fog and aerosols ...
    2. Sergey53
      Sergey53 9 December 2017 11: 23 New
      +1
      Enough power to destroy drones.
  6. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 9 December 2017 11: 20 New
    +4
    nuclear weapons for the American F-1 fighter
    I guess I don’t understand something. So far, everyone has problems with laser weapons, and here they say that they will already install it. Yes, the Evil One will help you, only he will not even help the United States. America also failed him as the United States of America. And how will it end?
    1. Orionvit
      Orionvit 9 December 2017 11: 35 New
      +3
      Quote: rotmistr60
      So far, everyone has problems with laser weapons, and here they say that they’ll already install

      They already clung to the Boeing, it didn’t work out. And here on the F-15, cool though. laughing
  7. sa-ag
    sa-ag 9 December 2017 11: 20 New
    +5
    "... capable of shooting missiles and drones from a distance of 1609 kilometers."
    This is strong, especially for the F-15 :-) Star Wars however
    1. askort154
      askort154 9 December 2017 11: 40 New
      +4
      sa-ag "... capable of shooting missiles and drones from a distance of 1609 kilometers."

      Yeah, super figure. Could more precisely tongue = 1609, 0171 km.
    2. Victor Dubovitsky
      Victor Dubovitsky 9 December 2017 12: 11 New
      +1
      Quote: sa-ag
      "... capable of shooting missiles and drones from a distance of 1609 kilometers."
      This is strong, especially for the F-15 :-) Star Wars however

      I was amused by this precisely measured distance - 1609. Something schizophrenic in this sounds.
      1. Vadim237
        Vadim237 9 December 2017 12: 57 New
        +1
        There are 160 kilometers maximum.
      2. Korolev
        Korolev 9 December 2017 14: 16 New
        +1
        Schizophrenic is if you do not know that one mile is 1609 meters. That is, in the original, a distance of 1000 miles was announced.
  8. svp67
    svp67 9 December 2017 11: 21 New
    +4
    On American fighters F-15 install laser weapons
    Yeah, they have already successfully buried the railgun ... they will be with this “weapon”. Not yet those technologies.
  9. sabakina
    sabakina 9 December 2017 11: 25 New
    +5
    At the same time, the US defense department expects to receive a laser with a power of about 50 kilowatts, which is five times more than the largest industrial laser.

    Did they go crazy there? belay
    1. Jedi
      Jedi 9 December 2017 11: 32 New
      +5
      Glory, salute! hi drinks
      Quote: sabakina
      Did they go crazy there?

      No, it’s just that someone planned the next cut. yes
      1. sabakina
        sabakina 9 December 2017 11: 46 New
        +5
        Max, drinks Well, let’s saw. Muller passed away. The era is leaving. I am sorry for the generation that does not want to watch our films ....
        1. Jedi
          Jedi 9 December 2017 11: 53 New
          +7
          Yes, I, too, worry about the death of Bronevoy ... But in our hearts and films he will remain forever. What is his doctor in the "Formula of love": all the words have long been divided into quotes.
          1. sabakina
            sabakina 9 December 2017 12: 04 New
            +3
            Max, I’ll write in a personal ..
  10. HMR333
    HMR333 9 December 2017 11: 28 New
    +1
    laser lights will give out for the new year)))
  11. newcomer
    newcomer 9 December 2017 11: 29 New
    +3
    why are there little things about lasers, immediately hang the railgun on a plane laughing
  12. Orionvit
    Orionvit 9 December 2017 11: 33 New
    +4
    expects to get a laser with a power of about 50 kilowatts, which is five times more than the largest industrial laser.
    Ha! for the operation of industrial lasers, in enterprises, entire electrical substations are installed. Again, the US "strategists" are rubbing suckers about yet another "miracle of retaliation weapons." Just not long ago, we dealt with the railgun and then again. laughing
  13. Oleg7700
    Oleg7700 9 December 2017 11: 34 New
    0
    1609 meters, natural American mile.
    1. Sergey53
      Sergey53 9 December 2017 11: 44 New
      +1
      They mixed up kilometers with meters! Then everything is closer to the goal. At 1609 meters pull. Exactly against drones!
  14. Altona
    Altona 9 December 2017 11: 35 New
    +1
    Quote: Sergey53
    Enough power to destroy drones.

    -----------------------------
    Which are sold in the Eldorado store?
  15. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 9 December 2017 11: 38 New
    +2
    God, what nonsense! The task is not for the declared money absolutely. Range does not correspond to the curvature of the Earth. Stuffing awkward ... wassat
  16. Karakut
    Karakut 9 December 2017 11: 38 New
    +2
    The United States is nothing and no one will save ...!
  17. Wedmak
    Wedmak 9 December 2017 11: 39 New
    +3
    1609 KM? And not a kilometer more? 50 kW? And why not 60, maybe they could have mastered another hundred kilometers? F-15 will be put into orbit and will be fun on satellites? Other options are not visible.
  18. tchoni
    tchoni 9 December 2017 11: 42 New
    +1
    Something already happened. True, they wanted to place this device on an epic passenger broiler for anything less than chemical. a laser with a firing range of 700 km and a power of about, if I remember correctly, something about 40 kW did not intermeddle. I remember that they even built a prototype ... but in real life the firing range was less than declared, and the stock of shots was insignificant (something less than a dozen) ...
    Hardly in 10 years the technology has stepped forward so that it became possible to shove it all in f-15. Another study of the type of electromagnetic guns. In general, it seems to me that the customer does not plan to get the declared result. It is important for him to work out the direction. And he will be glad if he receives a certain device capable of shooting down air-to-air or air-to-air missiles in the immediate vicinity of the aircraft.
    1. Shahno
      Shahno 9 December 2017 11: 50 New
      0
      APU Pratt Whitney. Nomenclature from 50 to 300 kg. Power from 30 to 300 kW.
      1. sabakina
        sabakina 9 December 2017 12: 21 New
        +4
        Quote: Shahno
        APU Pratt Whitney. Nomenclature from 50 to 300 kg. Power from 30 to 300 kW.

        Che said that ??? belay
        1. Victor Dubovitsky
          Victor Dubovitsky 9 December 2017 14: 56 New
          0
          Quote: sabakina
          Quote: Shahno
          APU Pratt Whitney. Nomenclature from 50 to 300 kg. Power from 30 to 300 kW.

          Che said that ??? belay

          Think.
    2. Vadim237
      Vadim237 9 December 2017 13: 06 New
      +1
      It was - a Boeing YAL-1 laser with a power of 1 MW February 11, 2010 continued testing. The American Agency for Missile Defense, conducted a test of a combat laser in flight to destroy ballistic missiles. According to the agency’s press release, the laser system was fired at two targets simulating solid and liquid fuel ballistic missiles in the accelerating section of the trajectory.

      Tests of an air-based laser were conducted at the Point Mugu Air Force Base in California. Ballistic missile with LRE launched from a mobile platform at sea. The defeat of the target was carried out in several stages. At the first stage, the target was detected using on-board sensors and the target was followed by a TILL laser beam. Then a BILL laser was used to evaluate the effect of the atmosphere on the accuracy of the hit. After that, a megawatt-class combat laser shot at full power, which heated the rocket to a critical temperature and caused an irreversible violation of its design. Reported damage to the target (the rocket was in the active part of the trajectory). About two minutes passed from the start to the defeat of the target.

      Less than an hour after the defeat of the first missile, a solid-fuel rocket (identical to the one shot down during the February 3 test) was launched from the island of San Nicholas (California), which is about 100 km from Poin Mugu. Successful defeat and a second target are reported.
      1. Sergey53
        Sergey53 9 December 2017 17: 03 New
        0
        This colossus has enough power to intercept a small target.
        1. Vadim237
          Vadim237 9 December 2017 17: 13 New
          +1
          Well, BR - the goal is not small.
          1. Sergey53
            Sergey53 9 December 2017 18: 08 New
            +1
            How they start and hit, much has been written. Objectivity is not enough.
      2. Victor Dubovitsky
        Victor Dubovitsky 9 December 2017 20: 50 New
        +1
        Quote: Vadim237
        It was - a Boeing YAL-1 laser with a power of 1 MW February 11, 2010 continued testing. The American Agency for Missile Defense, conducted a test of a combat laser in flight to destroy ballistic missiles. According to the agency’s press release, the laser system was fired at two targets simulating solid and liquid fuel ballistic missiles in the accelerating section of the trajectory.

        Tests of an air-based laser were conducted at the Point Mugu Air Force Base in California. Ballistic missile with LRE launched from a mobile platform at sea. The defeat of the target was carried out in several stages. At the first stage, the target was detected using on-board sensors and the target was followed by a TILL laser beam. Then a BILL laser was used to evaluate the effect of the atmosphere on the accuracy of the hit. After that, a megawatt-class combat laser shot at full power, which heated the rocket to a critical temperature and caused an irreversible violation of its design. Reported damage to the target (the rocket was in the active part of the trajectory). About two minutes passed from the start to the defeat of the target.

        Less than an hour after the defeat of the first missile, a solid-fuel rocket (identical to the one shot down during the February 3 test) was launched from the island of San Nicholas (California), which is about 100 km from Poin Mugu. Successful defeat and a second target are reported.

        What was the distance? Probably a couple of kilometers?
        1. Vadim237
          Vadim237 10 December 2017 18: 23 New
          +1
          It is written - 100 kilometers.
          1. Victor Dubovitsky
            Victor Dubovitsky 10 December 2017 21: 24 New
            0
            It is written 100 km from Point Mugu. But that’s what the goal was at 100km, well, I haven’t found it anywhere. Poke your nose.
            1. Vadim237
              Vadim237 11 December 2017 00: 26 New
              +1
              "Tests of an air-based laser were conducted at the Point Mugu US Navy airbase" - The plane flew near the base.
              1. Vadim237
                Vadim237 11 December 2017 00: 45 New
                +1
                "The COIL laser unit is modular in design and is located in the rear of the aircraft. In order for the beam to exit the nose turret, a sophisticated system with low-power lasers, deflecting mirrors and adaptive optics is used. The estimated range of COIL is 400-600 kilometers." It is clear why the program was closed, the laser design was too complicated and expensive, and the program costs were like a new aircraft carrier — but the result was positive, so that in the future air-based lasers can return, only in a new guise - design and carrier, as well as up to 10 MW, for the range and height of interception of ICBMs of 6000 kilometers.
                1. Victor Dubovitsky
                  Victor Dubovitsky 11 December 2017 01: 36 New
                  0
                  Quote: Vadim237
                  "The COIL laser unit is modular in design and is located in the rear of the aircraft. In order for the beam to exit the nose turret, a sophisticated system with low-power lasers, deflecting mirrors and adaptive optics is used. The estimated range of COIL is 400-600 kilometers." It is clear why the program was closed, the laser design was too complicated and expensive, and the program costs were like a new aircraft carrier — but the result was positive, so that in the future air-based lasers can return, only in a new guise - design and carrier, as well as up to 10 MW, for the range and height of interception of ICBMs of 6000 kilometers.

                  Aircraft and range of defeat 6000km. The concepts are not compatible. Here I have a screen with a sign of the dependence of the horizon range on the height of observation. And on it, well, such a horizon does not accumulate. For the plane. From the geostationary orbit, it will work. But then this is no longer a plane.
                  1. Vadim237
                    Vadim237 11 December 2017 23: 07 New
                    0
                    If the plane will fly at an altitude of 12 kilometers, then it will be able to hit ICBMs flying at the second stage, at an altitude of 500 kilometers and above, and the "bus" itself at a distance of 6000 kilometers.
                    1. Victor Dubovitsky
                      Victor Dubovitsky 12 December 2017 01: 17 New
                      0
                      Quote: Vadim237
                      If the plane will fly at an altitude of 12 kilometers, then it will be able to hit ICBMs flying at the second stage, at an altitude of 500 kilometers and above, and the "bus" itself at a distance of 6000 kilometers.

                      Theorist. You hit. It’s not clear that this chukhna is trying to drag us into the race of the amount of dough. With rails, now with flashlights. From a fixed platform for 500 km, shoot one, and with a moving one squared. And taking into account the pulsed action of the laser. A pair of image formulas proving the probability of at least 2% hit.
              2. Victor Dubovitsky
                Victor Dubovitsky 11 December 2017 01: 32 New
                0
                Quote: Vadim237
                "Tests of an air-based laser were conducted at the Point Mugu US Navy airbase" - The plane flew near the base.

                So I'm about the same. He suggested that in a couple of kilometers he had erased the adversary. With pre-known coordinates. And with almost zero initial speed. I really got on the reports for my term in KB, but I never got to that. These are extra-class pundits.
  19. Simon
    Simon 9 December 2017 11: 49 New
    +2
    Quote: Jedi
    At the same time, the American defense ministry expects to get a laser with a power of about 50 kilowatts, which is five times more than the largest industrial laser. The Pentagon hopes that in the future the power of weapons on fighters can be increased to 100-150 kilowatts.

    And will the laser power source behind the leash for the F-15 fly? belay

    So, they also have batteries dyurasel - 60% more work! laughing laughing wassat
    1. Smog
      Smog 9 December 2017 12: 14 New
      +1
      Quote: Simon
      they also have duracel batteries

      good


      and also energizer-
  20. aszzz888
    aszzz888 9 December 2017 11: 57 New
    +1
    from a distance of 1609 kilometers.

    ... and not a centimeter more ... and then trust them ... bully
  21. askort154
    askort154 9 December 2017 12: 14 New
    +1
    In the USSR, the development of laser weapons began in the 60s. In 1982, at a training ground in Kazakhstan, it was first used (SKIF) against radio-controlled targets. Development continued, and the IL -76 project is still not closed, specifications have not been disclosed. According to the statement of Yu. Borisov in 2016, individual samples were put into service and can be placed on airplanes, wheeled-tracked military equipment, as well as on Navy ships. . yes
  22. K-50
    K-50 9 December 2017 12: 16 New
    +2
    On American fighters F-15 install laser weapons

    Another polososy loot. fellow
    That they did not go on a laser on a large aircraft, a Boeing, small energy, but here they want to fit in a fighter.
    Dreamers in one word !!! fellow laughing
  23. Graz
    Graz 9 December 2017 12: 16 New
    +2
    all this is bullshit, there you need to carry the power station with you, and the laser in the atmosphere does not channel over long distances
  24. Fedorov
    Fedorov 9 December 2017 12: 23 New
    +2
    as part of a $ 26 million deal, the company should supply weapons for fighters capable of knocking missiles and drones from a distance of 1609 kilometers

    This amount is probably only for the draft assignment laughing 2,6 billion, I would still believe ..
    Although in the latest RIA Novosti news, I did not find this information, there is no time to delve ...
  25. universe1
    universe1 9 December 2017 12: 26 New
    +1
    Correct your 1609 kilometers already. It is clear that this is a typo and was referring to 1 land mile, equal to 1609 meters.
  26. shinobi
    shinobi 9 December 2017 12: 33 New
    +2
    Do they even imagine what they are waving at? No, our saw cutters nervously smoke on the sidelines. Against the background of the Yankees, they are just white and fluffy bunnies!
    1. Nikolaevich I
      Nikolaevich I 9 December 2017 12: 52 New
      0
      Quote: shinobi
      our saw cutters nervously smoke on the sidelines

      Our "sawers", do not touch! Our "sawers" are ahead of the Americans! It was "here" before the Americans promised to equip the Yeroplan (MiG-35) with laser weapons!
  27. san4es
    san4es 9 December 2017 12: 46 New
    +4
    At the same time, the US defense department expects to receive a laser with a capacity of about 50 kilowatts,

    ... We were still in the USSR .. negative
  28. voyaka uh
    voyaka uh 9 December 2017 12: 47 New
    +4
    Something they turned down about kilometers, a 50-kW laser will be effective at a maximum of 10 km.
    As an anti-missile weapon, against explosives. But in which hemisphere to install it?
    Front or rear protection?
    1. san4es
      san4es 9 December 2017 13: 09 New
      +2
      Quote: voyaka uh
      But in which hemisphere to install it?

      ... and where to feed it from?. Where to get energy? request
      1. Vadim237
        Vadim237 9 December 2017 13: 21 New
        +2
        From a jet engine generator.
    2. Vadim237
      Vadim237 9 December 2017 13: 13 New
      +1
      In a hanging container together with a power source, a 180-degree turn of the laser emitter, if under the belly, or maybe just two emitters on the hanging container - one in front of the other behind
  29. zzdimk
    zzdimk 9 December 2017 13: 25 New
    0
    Yes, at least a hundred emitters!
  30. cedar
    cedar 9 December 2017 13: 34 New
    +1
    "On the F-15 US fighters will install laser weapons"

    So combat lasers are already installed on the F-35. Front and rear ...
  31. ASG7
    ASG7 9 December 2017 14: 07 New
    0
    And what is so small - 50 kilowatts, because all the same they only "hope to get", they would write the whole megawatt, it's cooler, and you can write off more money.
    1. Sergey53
      Sergey53 9 December 2017 17: 09 New
      0
      It is good if the power plant allows you to transfer more than 50 kW to the laser, and if not?
  32. Victor Dubovitsky
    Victor Dubovitsky 9 December 2017 14: 15 New
    +2



    What height do you need to climb to shoot in direct line of sight so far?
    1. Sergey53
      Sergey53 9 December 2017 17: 10 New
      0
      On a very large one.
  33. Victor Dubovitsky
    Victor Dubovitsky 9 December 2017 14: 52 New
    0


    I wonder where my picture went. Reinsert.
  34. signifera
    signifera 9 December 2017 15: 23 New
    0
    Oh yo, will the Chinese laser pointers cling?)))
  35. DimanC
    DimanC 9 December 2017 16: 08 New
    0
    I wonder how they are going to solve the problems of divergence at such distances?
  36. 3 Gorynych
    3 Gorynych 9 December 2017 16: 27 New
    0
    It is better to let the brake lights and turn signals install cheaper and visually more fun ... IMHO
  37. Flatter
    Flatter 9 December 2017 19: 43 New
    0
    At an altitude of 15-20km, the atmosphere is very discharged. It will not allow itself to be enough. Quite a reasonable proposal.
  38. LPD17
    LPD17 9 December 2017 20: 03 New
    0
    repetition of SDI and no more
  39. Vladimir_R
    Vladimir_R 10 December 2017 00: 10 New
    0
    Reading the comments, I would like to ask a question. Why do most unsubscribers emphasize the laser power needed to destroy any aircraft as such? It seems to me that the declared power is quite enough to burn out the optics or eyes of a person, and this is more than enough to negate the danger of the enemy aircraft.
    1. Victor Dubovitsky
      Victor Dubovitsky 10 December 2017 00: 19 New
      0
      Quote: Vladimir_R
      Reading the comments, I would like to ask a question. Why do most unsubscribers emphasize the laser power needed to destroy any aircraft as such? It seems to me that the declared power is quite enough to burn out the optics or eyes of a person, and this is more than enough to negate the danger of the enemy aircraft.

      So if you burn an inhabited apparatus, or having such optics. Which can be burned. But here the conversation is not about optics, but about iron, uninhabited, and obviously, very dangerous.
  40. bratchanin3
    bratchanin3 10 December 2017 10: 47 New
    0
    Bullshit! In this case, it is possible to blind the homing missile and no more, but this head must still be found and for some time to keep the beam on the head. I do not believe in it, another Amer diarrhea!
  41. bastard
    bastard 10 December 2017 11: 09 New
    0
    It is unfortunate that there are very few serious and sensible comments, and more and more skomorokhs! Such a serious and high-quality website turns into ......
  42. Machete
    Machete 10 December 2017 12: 28 New
    0
    Amount is some small.
    It looks like some kind of hidden prize.
    then they write that it did not work out with a laser. And the money is gone. Someone was secretly encouraged.
  43. Gado
    Gado 10 December 2017 21: 06 New
    +2
    Having read it from above, it just burst out from me: “What nonsense ?!” Does anyone really believe that ?!
    "... shoot down missiles and drones from a distance of 1609 kilometers." - But more or less in any way?
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 11 December 2017 00: 28 New
      +1
      Most likely this is a complex for protecting an aircraft from MANPADS and air-to-air missiles, with a range of 1609 meters.