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Lavrov called unfounded all the accusations of violation of the INF Treaty by Russia

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The accusations of Russia that it violates the Treaty on Intermediate-Range and Shorter-Range Missiles (INF) are unsubstantiated, Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov said at a press conference on Friday.


Lavrov called unfounded all the accusations of violation of the INF Treaty by Russia


As for the reports that we supposedly somewhere are deploying medium and shorter range missiles prohibited by the relevant treaty: I am not aware of these messages. I would be ready to see them, then, perhaps, I will express myself more clearly. In principle, President Putin has repeatedly commented on our commitment to the Treaty on Medium and Shorter-Range Missiles, reminded history this question. When the treaty was concluded, the Soviet Union only had these land-based missiles, and the US also had air-based, sea-based. Therefore, having signed an agreement to ban and destroy such land-based missiles, we, of course, have seriously disarmed ourselves in this category of weapons.
- said Lavrov.

But since then - and the president has talked about it - we have created appropriate missiles, not prohibited by the treaty, of sea and air basing as part of the modernization of our armed forces. Under these conditions, why do we need to carry out any violations, I just do not understand. Therefore, if the media writes unfounded, then, probably, it is not even worth spending time on it
- the minister added.
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  1. Hunter
    Hunter 8 December 2017 16: 21
    +9
    All questions to the hunchback and EBN ... Russia is now in a defensive defense, what we want is what we are doing! In vain Lavrov makes excuses ...
    1. Sail
      Sail 8 December 2017 16: 26
      10
      "Therefore, if the media write unfounded, then, probably, you should not even spend time on this"
      In my opinion, to the point.
      1. dorz
        dorz 8 December 2017 16: 41
        +3
        Quote: Segel
        "Therefore, if the media write unfounded, then, probably, you should not even spend time on this"
        In my opinion, to the point.

        The Americans mean the cruise missile for the Iskander P-500 with a declared range of 2000 km. and located, perhaps, in the European part of Russia.
        1. Sail
          Sail 8 December 2017 16: 42
          +7
          Well, maybe not eat posted, let them prove it. wink
        2. dvina71
          dvina71 8 December 2017 17: 49
          +3
          Quote: dorz
          The Americans mean the cruise missile for the Iskander P-500 with a declared range of 2000 km

          Did he make such claims? Where did 2k kilometers come from?
          TTX missiles:

          Mass of warhead - 480 kg

          Range - 500 km (up to 700 km according to doubtful data)
          Airspeed - 230-260 m / s
          Flight Duration - 24 min (when starting 29.05.2007 g.)
          QUO - about 1 m
          Deviation on the route - up to 30 m (when starting 29.05.2007 g.)
          1. dorz
            dorz 8 December 2017 18: 09
            +2
            Not too lazy to score in Yandex:
            https://www.gazeta.ru/army/2017/10/18/10948634.sh
            tml

            Quote: dvina71
            Quote: dorz
            The Americans mean the cruise missile for the Iskander P-500 with a declared range of 2000 km

            Did he make such claims? Where did 2k kilometers come from?
            TTX missiles:

            Mass of warhead - 480 kg

            Range - 500 km (up to 700 km according to doubtful data)
            Airspeed - 230-260 m / s
            Flight Duration - 24 min (when starting 29.05.2007 g.)
            QUO - about 1 m
            Deviation on the route - up to 30 m (when starting 29.05.2007 g.)
            1. dvina71
              dvina71 8 December 2017 18: 13
              +3
              Quote: dorz
              https://www.gazeta.ru/army/2017/10/18/10948634.sh
              tml

              PFff..and it was more difficult to find the source yellow? Newspaper .. your mother .. cesspool cesspool ..
              Officially, this is reflected in the name of the rocket .. R-500 .. the range of this Kr does not exceed the 500 km established by the agreement.
              Purely theoretically, it can be assumed that the full range of this missile is similar to the range of a similar sea-based missile defense .., but you can’t get it right.
          2. Vadim237
            Vadim237 8 December 2017 18: 58
            +4
            Only this R 500 missile in terms of mass and size characteristics fully corresponds to 3M54, which means that its range with the Caliber is the same and these missiles are interchangeable.
            1. karabas-barabas
              karabas-barabas 8 December 2017 21: 06
              +1
              Quote: Vadim237
              this missile R 500 in terms of mass and size characteristics fully corresponds to 3M54, which means that its range with the Caliber is the same and these missiles are interchangeable.


              Are you serious? ) Iskander in my opinion a supersonic ballistic missile, Caliber subsonic winged. Nothing is interchangeable there at all.
              1. Korolev
                Korolev 9 December 2017 15: 25
                0

                Cruise missile operational-tactical missile system / multi-purpose modular missile system of the ground forces 9K720 Iskander-M.
                This rocket even looks very similar to 3M54

                It is not surprising that the Americans do not believe in the declared range of 500 km.
        3. Pirogov
          Pirogov 8 December 2017 18: 39
          +2
          Quote: dorz
          The Americans mean the cruise missile for the Iskander P-500 with a declared range of 2000 km. and located, perhaps, in the European part of Russia.

          And where does this range come from? Americans suggested, or who?
    2. Golovan Jack
      Golovan Jack 8 December 2017 16: 30
      11
      Quote: Hunter
      In vain Lavrov makes excuses

      Since when did the direct accusation of an opponent of lies become
      be called an "excuse"? recourse
      1. Chertt
        Chertt 8 December 2017 16: 33
        +2
        Quote: Golovan Jack
        Since when has the direct accusation of an opponent of lying become an “excuse”?

        Specifically, in this case, Lavrov did not accuse anyone of lies. He said "We don’t need ... but you have no data"
        1. Golovan Jack
          Golovan Jack 8 December 2017 16: 45
          11
          Quote: Chertt
          "We don’t need ... but you have no data"

          In the language of a diplomat at the level of Lavrov, the phrase "you do not have confirmed data" means precisely an indication of the unfoundedness of the charges.
          That is, in translation to the generally understood - to a lie
          1. Vladimir16
            Vladimir16 8 December 2017 16: 50
            0
            Lavrov said specifically
            it’s not worth spending time on it

            What the fuck are excuses? Where are they? Specifically, he sent the media disseminating this get along fuck.
            Hunter just wants to constantly make excuses himself. Only this is not to Lavrov, this is to Akhidzhakova.
            1. Golovan Jack
              Golovan Jack 8 December 2017 16: 53
              +8
              Quote: Vladimir16
              Hunter, just wants to constantly make excuses himself

              Well, why did you tell me this?
              Tell ... Hunter or something ...
              1. Hunter
                Hunter 8 December 2017 20: 27
                +2
                Quote: Golovan Jack
                Quote: Vladimir16
                Hunter, just wants to constantly make excuses himself

                Well, why did you tell me this?
                Tell ... Hunter or something ...

                I will not say anything with a sense .. hehe you guys have time to buy a fool, you are in earnest! soldier
          2. Paranoid50
            Paranoid50 8 December 2017 19: 13
            +3
            Quote: Golovan Jack
            the phrase "you do not have confirmed data" means precisely an indication of the unfoundedness of the charges.
            That is, in translation to the generally understood - to a lie

            Duc, even ordinary TV advertising confirms this: "They didn’t post it - they didn’t." All mattresses have no questions. And it should not be. laughing
    3. Chertt
      Chertt 8 December 2017 16: 30
      +2
      Quote: Hunter
      All questions to the humpback and EBN

      So self-respecting, responsible countries do not. We’ll just stop spreading about the performance characteristics of new missiles and all
      1. 210ox
        210ox 8 December 2017 16: 36
        +2
        Yes, don’t be shy about your complexes ..
    4. In100gram
      In100gram 8 December 2017 17: 58
      +1
      Quote: Hunter
      Russia is now in a defensive defense, what we want is what we are doing!

      I do not argue with defense. And about what we want, we do it: we have achieved parity with them, which is why the hysterical screams of the mattresses began. And so they had an advantage. Now we have an advantage
      1. Hunter
        Hunter 8 December 2017 21: 02
        +3
        Quote: In100gram
        Quote: Hunter
        Russia is now in a defensive defense, what we want is what we are doing!

        I do not argue with defense. And about what we want, we do it: we have achieved parity with them, which is why the hysterical screams of the mattresses began. And so they had an advantage. Now we have an advantage

        Russia has a spiritual advantage! We are the country of Winners and we have experienced a lot ..
        There is such a thing call of blood, it always works for us at a critical moment ..
        This is exactly what they want to corrode from our souls and vulgarize everything .. But in the end, the opposite happened! These are Russian unpredictable .. And soon gentlemen, you have to answer and pay FOR EVERYTHING!
    5. okko077
      okko077 8 December 2017 20: 25
      0
      Therefore, by signing an agreement to ban and destroy such land-based missiles, we, of course, seriously disarmed ourselves in this category of weapons
      It is very interesting: what intelligent general and what military experts (experts) could sign such a stupid treaty, or rather, ensure his military justification and equality of parities? From the General Staff at least .. This is about the smartest generals .... Maybe someone knows or have to look for it yourself? This is what a moron you need to be in order to give a shit about your country ... And now they are also too stupid, but loyal .... Just like Gerasimov ... That's why we don’t have Combat Information Systems for observing the enemy and targeting in real time ... And also, ....
      1. Town Hall
        Town Hall 8 December 2017 20: 36
        0
        Quote: okko077
        It is very interesting: what intelligent general and what military experts (experts) could have signed such a stupid treaty, or rather, provided his military justification and equality of parities? From the General Staff at least .. This is about the smartest generals .... Maybe someone knows or have to look for it yourself? This is what a moron you need to be in order to give a shit to your country ...




        Or maybe they weren’t so stupid then?. In general, the USSR won from this treaty
    6. svp67
      svp67 8 December 2017 20: 33
      0
      Quote: Hunter
      In vain Lavrov makes excuses ...

      They are justified when they have done something. And when they didn’t, they simply reject the unjustified accusations.
  2. Observer2014
    Observer2014 8 December 2017 16: 25
    +7
    As part of the modernization of our armed forces, we have created appropriate missiles, not prohibited by the treaty, of sea and air basing. Under these conditions, why do we need to carry out any violations, I just do not understand.
    So I don’t understand. All the latest developments in Russia were carried out according to the purchased tickets. Tell me that the West screwed up missing the rearmament of the Russian army. This is not an undeniable fact. The whole doctrine of a disarming non-nuclear strike went down the drain. They are afraid to touch the DPRK. Russia to speak now.
    1. karabas-barabas
      karabas-barabas 8 December 2017 21: 13
      0
      Quote: Observer2014
      Say that the West screwed up missing the rearmament of the Russian army. This is not an undeniable fact.


      This is not even an argument. Hard to believe it somehow. However, MO is not sleeping most likely.
  3. assa67
    assa67 8 December 2017 16: 25
    10
    after the INF agreement, we put under the knife about 1800 missiles ... and the states are half as much ... and the fact that the Iskanders were deployed in Kaliningrad and the Crimea is only in response to the contagion approaching our borders ... yes and what matters how and where we move the furniture in our apartment ... Lavrov is right
    1. Going
      Going 8 December 2017 17: 48
      +3
      We just had more of them, so the states insisted on this agreement.
      1. svp67
        svp67 8 December 2017 20: 34
        +1
        Quote: Going
        We just had more of them, so the states insisted on this agreement.

        Not only. Our missiles were more advanced and did not give any chances to the NATO forces in the European theater of operations.
  4. bald
    bald 8 December 2017 16: 34
    0
    No sense.
  5. ul_vitalii
    ul_vitalii 8 December 2017 16: 46
    +8
    Lavrov once again showed restraint, did not even call them fools.
  6. Dzafdet
    Dzafdet 8 December 2017 16: 46
    +2
    Quote: dorz
    Quote: Segel
    "Therefore, if the media write unfounded, then, probably, you should not even spend time on this"
    In my opinion, to the point.

    The Americans mean the cruise missile for the Iskander P-500 with a declared range of 2000 km. and located, perhaps, in the European part of Russia.

    And we have Americans. Did they write off the tomahawks? No, well, go through the forest! The purpose of mattress workers is to bring new Pershing to Europe. We need to consider measures to deploy missiles near Matrasia in order to destroy them in 5-7 minutes .. wassat
    1. In100gram
      In100gram 8 December 2017 18: 03
      0
      Quote: Dzafdet
      We need to consider measures to deploy missiles near Matrasia in order to destroy them in 5-7 minutes ..

      This is how many missiles need to be placed to destroy them in 5-7 minutes?
      I think a lot. Recently there were articles by Andrey from Chelyabinsk on this subject.
      1. igorka357
        igorka357 8 December 2017 18: 41
        +1
        If you count from start to destruction, it can take more than a few minutes, and if you count when the missile hit the target for seconds .. a nuclear missile strike between Russia and the United States can only be massive! The active phase, namely missile attacks, will end within an hour -two no more, since both sides will try to strike faster and in bulk, without giving the enemy a chance to survive .. The nuclear submarines will be fired instantly, strategic aviation on duty too, all ground, mine and mobile complexes too, possibly after a short time will be single launches of surviving heroes, but they will no longer be very effective, as they will be carried out in already destroyed areas! And then, the slow dying of the planet will begin .. laughing
        1. Vadim237
          Vadim237 8 December 2017 19: 04
          +1
          "And then, the slow dying of the planet will begin .." - From what?
  7. Simon
    Simon 8 December 2017 17: 03
    +3
    Let them howl, and we will create, all the more so since they are not included in the INF Treaty! tongue
  8. Piramidon
    Piramidon 8 December 2017 17: 10
    +2
    Sergey Viktorovich, maybe stop responding to the barking of each mongrel. The more we remain silent, the more our “partners” suffer from diarrhea.
  9. Going
    Going 8 December 2017 17: 47
    +3
    Let them say that they want us to fulfill our rearmament program.
  10. Silver fox_2
    Silver fox_2 8 December 2017 17: 51
    +2
    send them away politely !!! soldier
  11. Esoteric
    Esoteric 8 December 2017 18: 18
    +1
    Lavrov! Enough to hold the diplomacy of the capitulating country!
    Russia is our sacred power, Russia is our beloved country.

    As it is convenient for us to live, so shall we. And your foreign mission is to translate Russian views into foreign languages, and not justify yourself ... soldier
  12. arhPavel
    arhPavel 8 December 2017 18: 48
    +1
    Photos from my training :)) 5 points
  13. Old26
    Old26 8 December 2017 19: 20
    +2
    The Americans mean the cruise missile for the Iskander P-500 with a declared range of 2000 km. and located, perhaps, in the European part of Russia.

    The R-500 declared range was 500 km. These are our home-grown iksperds from newspapers and lovers of fussing on the forums attributed to her a range of 2000 km (and the Russian expert will not lie, he knows better than the American one) .. They drew the zones of her defeat in Europe (including in VO) , and then we begin to resent that we are being accused. There is a political game and the information war, and the media play in it by no means the last role. And this game has the goal of not only creating, but also supporting the image of the enemy among its citizens. What are we helping Americans in every way.

    Any journalist, senator and congressman can simply state: "But the military expert of the newspaper XXXX declares that the range of their R-500 missiles reaches 2000 km". And on their main military resource, "Military Review" has been repeatedly stated / you can continue to fasten the title without specifying a nickname. For example, a major or a colonel from the military-industrial complex (general staff, headquarters of the Strategic Missile Forces) - still no one will check /, who stated that the range of the modernized Iskander-M missiles significantly exceeds the permissible 500 km. And here, some people like to flaunt such numbers. And what, here's a finished article for you in some edition. Maybe not even in American. Then it is reprinted in the American edition and already this edition is considered by senators and congressmen as a fact.
    And then we begin to say that we are unfoundedly accused. And the person who expressed this may be quite famous. the same Leonid Ivashov or someone else
    But the Americans do not mean the R-500 missile (aka 9M728), but the 9M729 missile, which was tested by EMNIP last year and is unlikely to be launched from the Iskander launcher, since it has dimensions larger than the launcher's weapons compartment.
  14. Star
    Star 8 December 2017 22: 21
    +1
    But what about the vigorous bombs in koi countries are not nuclear powers.
    For example, in Turkey, Germany, etc.
    And it’s time for our Friends to place a vigorous little one for their safety, otherwise America is so close ...
  15. LAWNER
    LAWNER 9 December 2017 04: 11
    0
    Create "training" goals ...... The US military has them.
    We stamped 1000 pieces and are learning to shoot one at a time.