Russia will classify purchases of companies due to US sanctions

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The government proposed to transfer the purchases of 126 companies to a closed marketplace in connection with a possible expansion of US sanctions. About this on Friday, December 8, Kommersant reports, citing a preliminary version of the document.

Russia will classify purchases of companies due to US sanctions




The list includes 10 private banks, major state-owned companies and defense enterprises, as well as suppliers of equipment for large construction projects, in particular, the Crimean Bridge. Of the state structures in the list are the FSB, the Foreign Intelligence Service and the Main State Expert Examination, which is already under US sanctions because of the coordination of the draft bridge to the Crimea.

Apparently, the “126 list” reflects the government’s ideas about who the sanctions could be extended to in 2018.
- believes "Kommersant". According to the newspaper, tenders for companies will be transferred to a closed state defense order site after December 15.

In late November, the Vedomosti newspaper reported that Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev signed a decree that allows state-owned companies not to disclose their suppliers. In this way, structures will be able to bypass economic constraints.

Washington is due to announce the new sanctions list in February of 2018. In August, 2017, US President Donald Trump expanded anti-Russian restrictive measures.
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  1. +30
    8 December 2017 15: 40
    Let us recall the story of one betrayal and pay tribute to its organizers.
    1. +25
      8 December 2017 15: 44
      Three freaks drank such a country ...
      Now we are sitting in complete surroundings and all in sanctions on the brink of war ..
      In general, I think you need to classify everything to the goddamn grandmother ..! The country is almost martial law ..
      1. +10
        8 December 2017 15: 52
        Do not forget that we swallowed it, and now it's too late to sprinkle our heads with ashes, we need to raise Russia to a new level and then we will live.
        1. +13
          8 December 2017 16: 20
          Quote: Hunter
          Three freaks drank such a country ...

          The country was ruined by the Communists. From greed. Yeltsin is the president of Russia. The part that remained from the collapse of the Russian Empire, and then the collapse of the USSR.
          With all his desire, he could not ruin the USSR. Before him, the hunchbacked and his comrades tried.
          Quote: Going
          Do not forget that we swallowed it

          Horseradish knows that you swallow there, but we voted for the preservation of the USSR.
          1. GRF
            +15
            8 December 2017 16: 47
            Do you know who a communist is?
            And the traitor who pulled the mask of a communist, is also a communist?
            Enemies will trash concepts, and many are underway.
            Truly, do not raise yourself an idol (even in the form of concepts).
            We will know them by deeds ... But by deeds, they are never communists ... From their individualism, the people will be "admired" for a long time ...
          2. +3
            8 December 2017 16: 57
            Quote: Vladimir16
            The country was ruined by the Communists. From greed.

            Only the laziest ones didn’t kick them, although they handed them all out to the “brothers” ... (the 90s were reminded when they were cursed and poisoned, including our army, including ..)
            Quote: Vladimir16
            but we voted to preserve the USSR.

            And we, who is this ..? Human Rights Defenders ... heh heh
          3. +2
            8 December 2017 23: 31
            Quote: Vladimir16
            Communists ruined the country

            Enough for the Communists to drive. Those who were in power, those led to this country (and for a long time and thoroughly) and remained in power there. Their families, grandchildren ... This is the "elite." Now they are not communists, but effective managers. And stay the same in other situations. The main thing for them was to devalue and trample the ideas of socialism, equality and the people's right to goods, mineral resources, free medicine, a high-quality education and the opportunity to be free. And they did it. So think before kicking communism - are you brainwashed?
            1. +3
              9 December 2017 00: 43
              Quote: Manul
              Those who were in power, those led to this country (and for a long time and thoroughly) and remained in power there.

              And they, of course, were not members of the CPSU? smile Neither Chubais, nor the EBN, nor Gaidar ... And the leader of the communist faction present in all Duma was not either. Do not confuse communism with communists.
              1. 0
                9 December 2017 04: 47
                Quote: Monos
                And they, of course, were not members of the CPSU? Neither Chubais, nor the EBN, nor Gaidar ... And the leader of the communist faction present in all Duma was not either. Do not confuse communism with communists.

                You do not understand me. And apparently a child of clichés. If the word "communists" is for you, these are three people - so please judge. Only quietly and quietly. And it smells the same Khrushchev and Chubais. And how can you persuade you that you still need to understand something, if you want to spit over your shoulder and leave?
                1. 0
                  9 December 2017 16: 14
                  And you are not the priest from the former .. offended at all.?
        2. 0
          9 December 2017 15: 39
          And who will raise it? Abramovich? And a hedgehog with him? Do not make me laugh. I don’t know what will happen next, but I’m sure that there will be little good at all ... if at all.
      2. +4
        8 December 2017 15: 53
        And there, under the veil of secrets, everyone will cut it.
        1. +2
          8 December 2017 16: 59
          Quote: Deniska999
          And there, under the veil of secrets, everyone will cut it.

          Don’t take too long the “managers” will also get it if they manage to get to the west ... laughing
        2. +2
          8 December 2017 22: 25
          Quote: Deniska999
          And there, under the veil of secrets, everyone will cut it.

          Everything has already been sawn there, now 12 departments will plow without any tenders, but this is from another sphere ...

          Dmitry Medvedev signed an order that allows state-owned companies not to disclose their suppliers. In this way, structures can circumvent economic constraints.

          This is already an agreement with US companies, now General Electric and others ... will work with ours but all this will be a secret .... from others, from Europe in the first place.
          Greetings from Tillerson & Co.
        3. 0
          9 December 2017 15: 40
          Not in the eyebrow, but in the eye. Now, finally, everything will be in chocolate.
      3. +2
        8 December 2017 16: 15
        The more secret the secret, the more expensive it is in the spy market.
      4. +4
        8 December 2017 17: 52
        Hunter hi
        In general, I think you need to classify everything to the goddamn grandmother ..! The country is almost martial law ..
        What is all this? They had already secreted that they were terribly afraid of war. I was in elementary school at that time and I was worried. Enough of my people to scare. Let them know all the possibilities of their army. And let the striped ones know that they will not survive 100%.
        1. +6
          8 December 2017 18: 11
          Quote: Observer2014
          What is all this?

          Military Procurement and Dual Purpose .. Although! After all, we are doing everything openly and they beat us very painfully .. (unsuccessful missile launches with satellites ..) After all, deliveries can be bookmarked .. Do you understand what this is?
          Quote: Observer2014
          Enough of your people to scare. Let them know all the possibilities of their army.

          Hitler did not know all the capabilities of our Army and the mobilization resource .. There was secrecy, even too much! Everyone knows the result ..
          Quote: Observer2014
          And let the striped ones know that 100% will not survive.

          They are destroying us from the inside, now .. Did not notice?
          Take care of Souls men, your and most importantly your children and grandchildren! There is a cruel and merciless war .. The enemy is not visible, he is in us, thanks to "our media and not ours"! soldier
          1. +7
            8 December 2017 18: 47
            Quote: Hunter
            Take care of Souls men, your and most importantly your children and grandchildren! There is a cruel and merciless war .. The enemy is not visible, he is in us, thanks to "our media and not ours"!

            Good advice, buddy! good
            1. +3
              8 December 2017 19: 20
              Quote: Monos
              Quote: Hunter
              Take care of Souls men, your and most importantly your children and grandchildren! There is a cruel and merciless war .. The enemy is not visible, he is in us, thanks to "our media and not ours"!

              Good advice, buddy! good

              Thank you, but sometimes I’m afraid of myself, reading “our media”, etc. .... It’s terrible in my heart that what’s happening doesn’t know who to believe and what to do .. The main thing is without panic and calm analysis! As in the past ZK "Do not believe, do not be afraid, do not ask ..!" For the time being Russia needs to adhere to this principle .. hi
              1. +6
                8 December 2017 19: 30
                Quote: Hunter
                Thank you, but sometimes I’m afraid of myself, reading "our media", etc.

                It’s familiar. I am saved in the Temple. ! 4 years already working in a monastery. Completely different meanings have opened. But I was lucky with my spiritual father. Try to find balance in this area (I mean, in the spiritual field). hi
                1. +5
                  8 December 2017 19: 48
                  Quote: Monos
                  Quote: Hunter
                  Thank you, but sometimes I’m afraid of myself, reading "our media", etc.

                  It’s familiar. I am saved in the Temple. ! 4 years already working in a monastery. Completely different meanings have opened. But I was lucky with my spiritual father. Try to find balance in this area (I mean, in the spiritual field). hi

                  I envy you with white envy .. I’m baptized, but I’m afraid to go to church (Soviet upbringing) .. Like I grind everything in my soul! But there is no balance in the soul so far, like so many in Russia! We feel the war again to see how our ancestors .. (soul and anxiety constantly)
                  And in the trenches are all believers, and there we’ll understand everything .. soldier
                  1. +5
                    8 December 2017 19: 58
                    Quote: Hunter
                    I am baptized, but I'm afraid to go to church (Soviet upbringing).

                    Everything has its time. smile God help.
          2. 0
            9 December 2017 15: 45
            You tell the last paragraph of GDP, otherwise he doesn’t think so. They are trying to openly destroy us as a nation, but we continue to build some kind of relationship with the "partners", although it is already almost diplomatic to break the current for money in their banks.
        2. +2
          8 December 2017 20: 07
          Quote: Observer2014
          Let them know all the possibilities of their army. And let the striped ones know that they will not survive 100%.

          So nobody is going to hide the army’s capabilities. They close information about suppliers, so that they do not insert sticks into the wheels.
      5. 0
        9 December 2017 09: 26
        But all were silent at the same time ...
    2. +8
      8 December 2017 15: 47
      Vit pancake .. I'm sorry, but I don’t want to remember that ... Three cattle And about the purchases .. This is correct, but in part. And will we keep the toilets and chairs?
      Quote: Monos
      Let us recall the story of one betrayal and pay tribute to its organizers.
      1. +6
        8 December 2017 15: 58
        Quote: 210ox
        Sorry, but I don’t want to remember that ...

        But you must not forget! No.
      2. +7
        8 December 2017 16: 04
        It is necessary to secret. Just do not go to extremes. In general, the decision was a little late - before it was necessary.
        1. +1
          8 December 2017 18: 04
          And what are you going to keep secret? And how much will it help, besides the ability to steal? Vaughn Golikova again said that in 2017 there were one and a half times more “sleep-wives”, there was 1 trillion rubles, it became 1,5 trillion ... Suppliers, after all, must also secret their deliveries to Russia, but do they need it? What can we talk about except the oil industry and the military-industrial complex? Credits can not be classified, and the other is also unlikely. In short, it was necessary to develop Russian industry, engineering and other technological enterprises, business, for this there was both money and time. Now, when it seems that the sanctions are serious and will cost a breakdown of many high-profile projects, it is necessary, at least now, to begin to develop our own ... but not before that.
          1. 0
            8 December 2017 20: 14
            Quote: karabas-barabas
            Suppliers, after all, must also secret their deliveries to Russia, but do they need it?

            Deliveries can also be made through third countries.
            Quote: karabas-barabas
            Credits can not be classified, and the other is also unlikely.

            Watching where to borrow. If the West limits lending time to two weeks, then there is no such problem with China. And the topic with its own Russian cryptocurrency is actively ventilated, with which it will be possible to lend to the state, for state projects, only without the possibility of withdrawal to offshore and withdrawal abroad.
          2. 0
            8 December 2017 21: 09
            Quote: karabas-barabas
            And what are you going to keep secret?

            The article is written.
            Quote: karabas-barabas
            And how much will it help, besides the ability to steal?

            All the same, these purchases will not go past Golikova. Control over enterprises that will conduct purchases under secrecy will not be removed. And since we have it now (on the public procurement website http://www.zakupki.gov.ru/epz/main/public/home.ht
            ml) can be viewed by the INN number of the enterprise ALL !!! what it buys for its needs (this applies only to state-owned enterprises) is completely useless. Well, it's just intelligence in the public domain.
      3. 0
        8 December 2017 21: 32
        And the toilets and chairs will be kept secret?


        Sometimes the number of toilets is more important than the performance characteristics of the rocket. Once I heard from a special agent: "Always remember that with whom the wife of a political leader is sleeping for the enemy, it may be more important than your pieces of iron"

        However, now you are amazed at - to track on social networks what is happening in the unit and where it was going to spit.
    3. +3
      8 December 2017 15: 50
      Perhaps I don’t understand something, but it seems to me that it is not necessary to make purchases secret, but to develop our technologies and enterprises. Especially in such key industries as machine and machine tools. Or are we Zimbabwe, something that is not able to build something?
      1. +1
        8 December 2017 18: 25
        Everything is correct, but just it all developed down. Now only China will remain from the suppliers, which of course will not be able to supply what is needed, but what will happen will cost a lot of $. And then, depending on what Chinese companies. Those who have large parts of the market in the west, that is, especially high-tech and high-quality, are quite afraid to contact the military-industrial complex of the Russian Federation, so that they themselves do not fall under sanctions. But China, of course, is also developing, and it itself purchases a lot of high-tech, like machine tools, devices in those countries which are still leaders in this - Germany, the USA, Japan, South Korea. For the Russian military-industrial complex, recent and subsequent sanctions can be a big problem not only for new projects, but also for existing arms contracts in third countries, and this will lead to a bunch of problems, financial problems, contract breakdowns, etc. (many well-known representatives of the military-industrial complex are already in trouble ) and in the end there will not be less unemployed. But until 2014, when oil was still far beyond $ 100 for the past 10 years, there were no restrictions for Russian industry, everything was supplied in a row, judging by the activity of Rheinmetall and Nekster in projects for the Russian Ministry of Defense, it would be possible to establish the production of some industries, bring to profitability, some kind of reputation in the world market .. But the oil and gas power is the same! ..
        1. 0
          8 December 2017 19: 50
          Have you heard anything about the import substitution in the military-industrial complex? Well, of course, this cannot happen in an oil and gas power. Well, why exercise? Concerned about the military-industrial complex? Or just wanted to poke?
          1. 0
            31 December 2017 03: 30
            Oh, yes, import substitution!)) Well, since someone said something about it, it means it will be, it’s a blunder and it’s done! What do you want to say, urry to shout?))
      2. 0
        8 December 2017 21: 17
        Of course, it is necessary to develop import substitution, but there are things (the same machines) that our industry is not able to quickly do at the required level (maybe already). And machines are urgently needed (as always, "just yesterday"). Something like this.
    4. 0
      8 December 2017 16: 50
      Stage "Gorbachevschiny" missed. It was under him that the power and control structures were destroyed.
    5. +1
      8 December 2017 17: 51
      Stop whining already, neither you, nor 99,99% of those who have been whining for ever and blame all the blame for Yeltsin and a couple of other politicians for the collapse of the USSR, they themselves didn’t hit a finger at the time to save him, crying in the kitchen wasn’t score. Anyway, it was Lenin who at one time inscribed the possibility of the union republics leaving the USSR, drew idiotic borders, drawing for example Kazakhstan borders, so that all these Kazakhs, Kyrgyz, Azerbaijanis supported the communists, although they were all within the Russian Empire. Well, by 1991, all those bronzed members of the Politburo led, who, despite the development and experience of most countries by the mid-70s, both the West with their social-market economies and China, which introduced private property and small business, all clung to archaic and ineffective planned economies and political systems, brought about by doing nothing, lack of reform of the USSR to handle. And people, in turn, were tired of being poor, shortages and all that, while in the west, from the abundance and availability of goods, shelves were breaking.
      1. 0
        8 December 2017 19: 56
        And who needs your this excursion into the past with very mixed conclusions? All the same, let's live what is happening now, and so many experts of various stripes have written so much about the past that you are not even in the first thousand of them. What is happening in Russia now? Maybe try to analyze?
    6. 0
      8 December 2017 18: 36
      Quote: Monos
      Let us recall the story of one betrayal and pay tribute to its organizers.

      ett is not a voice, ett is some kind of nonsense, well, as the us defeated Hitler and Isis, the same thing.
      You can’t relate to your story like that.
    7. 0
      8 December 2017 23: 35
      Quote: Monos
      Let's remember the story

      In general, the socialist system began to be eliminated immediately after the death of Stalin. Gradually bringing him to the society of state capitalism. Well, and this actually led to the collapse of the USSR. The three in the picture all fixed it.
      1. +4
        9 December 2017 00: 50
        Quote: dvina71
        In general, the socialist system began to be eliminated immediately after the death of Stalin.

        Come on! Under the Khrushchev legalized the capitalist form of ownership? Brezhnev canceled free education and medicine? Andropov introduced a funded pension?
        1. 0
          9 December 2017 01: 18
          Quote: Monos
          Come on!

          Socialism (fr. Socialisme from lat. Socialis “public”) is a doctrine that considers social justice, freedom and equality as the goal and ideal [1]. Socialism also means the social system that embodies these principles. In Marxism, socialism is considered a transitional phase from capitalism to communism [2]. According to the definition of Encyclopedia Britannica, socialism is a socio-economic doctrine that calls for public ownership or public control over property and natural resources [3]; socialization of property is generally regarded as one of the most significant, “constitutive” signs of socialism [


          First of all, the social system determines the form of ownership of the means of production. In the days of Stalin, the social system was closest to socialism. Starting from Khrushchev, nationalization of the means of production took place .., I still found private traders dental technicians .. and co-trading ... and meanwhile, during the time of Stalin, the very first television sets in the USSR were not produced by the state-owned enterprise, there was no state control ...
          The complete nationalization of the means of production led to the collapse of the USSR, because such a form of social order cannot exist for a long time ... too vulnerable, it must be either smart or beautiful ..
          I’m repeating .. it’s the Stalinist economy that has withstood the burden of the world war .. That economy in which people really bought tanks and planes, the state ordered and paid for the production of uniforms for cooperatives and cooperatives .. etc, etc ..
          1. +3
            9 December 2017 02: 24
            Quote: dvina71
            That economy in which real people bought tanks and planes, the state ordered and paid for the production of uniforms for cooperatives and cooperatives .. etc, etc ..

            I'm too lazy to argue with you. Remind me how many tanks, planes, cars, guns, machine guns made private artels? The uniform is of course important, but to say that the war was won only because part of the pants was sewn by private traders ... is somehow strange.
            1. 0
              9 December 2017 09: 46
              Quote: Monos
              The war was won only because part of the underpants were sewn by private traders ... somehow strange.

              And where did I say that?
              1. +3
                9 December 2017 09: 50
                Quote: dvina71
                I reiterate .. it was the Stalinist economy that withstood the burden of the world war .. That economy in which real people bought tanks and planes, the state ordered and paid manufacturing uniforms for artels and cooperatives.. etc..

                Here.
                1. 0
                  9 December 2017 12: 15
                  Well, no ... you don’t ascribe your speculations to me. Where did I specifically say that victory was won thanks to partly-worn pants .. Quote from pozhalst?
                  1. +3
                    9 December 2017 12: 23
                    Well, since these are not your words, then the conversation is over.
                    1. 0
                      9 December 2017 13: 27
                      The drain is counted.
                      1. +3
                        9 December 2017 13: 42
                        Quote: dvina71
                        The drain is counted.

                        laughing laughing fool Long graduated from kindergarten?
  2. +6
    8 December 2017 15: 47
    Russia will make secret purchases of companies because of
    the fact that people learn too much about corrupt officials.
    1. +5
      8 December 2017 16: 22
      Quote: Gardamir
      people learn too much about corrupt officials

      Therefore, we stop discussing public procurement, and begin the discussion:
      Quote: Monos
      Let us recall the story of one betrayal and pay tribute to its organizers.

      Quote: Hunter
      Three freaks drank such a country ...
      1. +3
        8 December 2017 20: 10
        Quote: Tibidokh
        the fact that people learn too much about corrupt officials.

        The Soviet Union collapsed just such "fighters with privileges," as EBN .. remember?
        The Soviet "nomenclature" is now rogue with the current "elite", and the population is generally abandoned and survives as anyone knows how ..
        The Jews, as always, came out with huge profits .. These are obvious, but how many secretive "guilds" work ..? he he
        1. 0
          9 December 2017 13: 29
          Quote: Hunter
          the population is generally abandoned and survives as anyone knows how ..

          I recall Arkady Raikin with his People and Mannequins about natural selection.
          You stand in line for help and just hear “clap-clap” - these are the weak ones being weeded out.

          In the USSR, too, was not sweet. The weak were eliminated, the strong remained.
          And in Russia ... and in Russia, if not themselves, then strong, they send their children abroad. And only you hear "clap-clap" - it is the border guards who print passports ...
          1. +2
            9 December 2017 15: 06
            Quote: Tibidokh
            I recall Arkady Raikin with his People and Mannequins about natural selection.

            Of course I like Raikin as an artist, but the Jew is still .. heh heh
  3. +4
    8 December 2017 15: 48
    It’s high time, and foreign consulting companies in our ... MIC are arranging an audit, as they do in the States and England.
  4. +9
    8 December 2017 15: 50
    It’s not encrypted, they will take any office or individual that is tasty for them and fail them under sanctions, and our Shtirlits Ivanovich, meanwhile, will throw off scans of tenders and contracts to them.
    1. 0
      8 December 2017 18: 51
      Quote: ul_vitalii
      It’s not encrypted, they will take any office or individual that is tasty for them and fail them under sanctions, and our Shtirlits Ivanovich, meanwhile, will throw off scans of tenders and contracts to them.

      identity is correct, we will encrypt everything and we will sell them encryption, all money to the country
  5. +2
    8 December 2017 15: 50
    So it's time! And then everything is on display, with these "contests".
    If you wish, a lot of things can be gleaned from the "competitive" documentation ... Yes, and the "competitions" themselves are sometimes very harmful, for example, due to an explicit delay of time.

    More than once I came across contractuals at tenders ... however, temporary losses on paperwork and the procedure itself remain.
  6. +2
    8 December 2017 15: 56
    Formally, the "openness" of Russian society took place under the banner of the fight against corruption and "clarity for investors." Both goals were categorically unattainable. ... Russia is better at all to close the information on state. procurement, gold reserves, pr ...
  7. +5
    8 December 2017 16: 03
    Quote: Beby
    If you wish, a lot of things can be gleaned from the "competitive" documentation ... Yes, and the "competitions" themselves are sometimes very harmful, for example, due to an explicit delay of time.

    and scoop, and even kak. analysts at staff members are excellent .. yes we ourselves are good, everything is in the public domain .... the basics of military doctrine for the coming years is the construction of BMZ ships, submarines (strategic and multi-purpose) .... new sanctions on mining companies, "electronics", the participation of shell or controlled companies in tenders ... and poooootyanuuuuulu a little time ...
  8. 0
    8 December 2017 16: 20
    Not American, but American, Mexico, Brazil, etc. do not count, or is it all the United States now?
  9. +2
    8 December 2017 18: 06
    Almost every day in the Russian state, information is prohibited and classified under the guise of trade secrets. And the life of the common people through all kinds of gadgets - computers, tablets, smartphones - is becoming more transparent.
  10. +1
    8 December 2017 18: 08
    Russia will classify purchases of companies due to US sanctions
    What used to hinder? sad
  11. 0
    8 December 2017 19: 28
    I, as an auditor, are interested.
    Large enterprises are subject to mandatory audit.
    Currently, in our audit market, up to 60-70 percent of revenue is received by firms founded by large foreign audit associations. At the same time, these same firms usually audit the largest enterprises and banks in Russia. Accordingly, these purchases during the audit should be brought "on a silver platter" by financiers of the audited enterprises.
    Well, what is the secret here, if the enterprises themselves must provide all the information, and even pay a considerable amount for it.
    It is time in the audit to also introduce the status of foreign agents, but only the Ministry of Finance (which currently manages the audit) or the Central Bank - to whom it is planned to transfer the functions of oversight of the auditors, do not think about this.
  12. 0
    8 December 2017 19: 40
    Quote: karabas-barabas
    Now, when it seems that the sanctions are serious and will cost a breakdown of many high-profile projects, it is necessary, at least now, to begin to develop our own ... but not before that.

    Yes, of course, soon kapets, sanctions, brothers, this is a serious matter, and all the authorities are to blame, ordinary people will be even worse for us, and if they want to in the West, then we generally ... all! I continued this for you, otherwise you somehow modestly finished - are you tired of scaring people?
  13. +1
    8 December 2017 21: 16
    Correct solution. I support and approve.
  14. 0
    9 December 2017 11: 12
    They change their own legislation to adapt to someone else's. This is sovereignty!
    I doubt that such a thing as public procurement, and even in private companies can be seriously classified. Too many people will know about it. Even the secretaries will know about such transactions in any way.
  15. 0
    9 December 2017 14: 25
    And you wonder why we are offshore money? Because. By the way, do you know where the most investment comes from in our country? From offshore. Therefore, some of our companies have a residence permit there. And the secret part of the budget is rumored to be nearly 1/3.
  16. +1
    10 December 2017 17: 36
    What kind of nonsense?
    From whom are they classified? Have you already begun to command from your citizens or other countries?
    Just to write, but what how?

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