Mutko: No need to raise the issue of my resignation

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The deputy chairman of the Russian government, Vitaly Mutko, around whose person another scandal broke out, made it clear that he was not going to resign. In the course of communication with journalists, Mr. Mutko asked journalists not to raise the issue of his resignation. Like this ... Do not lift, that's all.

RIA News quotes Vitaly Mutko:
Let us now we will not (raise) this question, is there anyone to take these decisions. You know me a hundred years. I am at any time ... if it is for the benefit of someone and will be necessary. Who says, I see too.




Mutko: No need to raise the issue of my resignation


That is his personal responsibility for the inability to protect the sport of Russia, Mr. Mutko does not see, but shifts the responsibility for making decisions to others.

Against this background, businessman Alisher Usmanov wrote a letter to the International Olympic Committee, in which he criticized the decision of the IOC. According to Usmanov, the IOC unjustly deprived athletes who were not caught in the dope’s duress to participate in the 2018 Olympiad.

The multiple champion, world record holder Yolanda Chan responded to the decision of the IOC. She appealed to the International Olympic Committee with a statement that if WADA committed violations at the Olympic Games in Sochi-2014, then the IOC should annul the results of athletes of all national teams.

Yolanda Chen in an interview "Sport-Express":
After all, if WADA admits that something was wrong, the results of all athletes and teams are in doubt. Why is everyone just stuck to us? We must be true patriots, and for this our team must be at the Olympics, because we are not to blame for anything
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  1. +31
    8 December 2017 07: 03
    Mr. Mutko, how is it not necessary?

    Mr. Mutko asked reporters not to raise the issue of his resignation. So ... Don’t pick it up, that's all

    It is necessary (censored), it is necessary!
    PS.
    No need to shoot and drink poison, apologize, admit that you could not cope and dismiss Mr.!
    Do not cling to the position as for my mother’s skirt, I’ve grown up already.
    1. +29
      8 December 2017 07: 06
      Let us not (raise) this question now
      you must Fedya, you must!!!
      anyway, realizing that this is politics, these are the next sanctions, the charges are unproven, but! not unfounded .. and guilty of this in the first Mutko .. who prevented "burying" Rodchenkov at the initial stage, planting for a long time? Regarding his investigation, they were back in 2012 .. and he continued to work .. I will never believe that without the knowledge of Mutko !!! How much has he failed, starting with football, the Olympics in Canada and more .. the list goes on, but he only gets a raise ..
      not literally, but "The greatness of a country is determined by the amount of Olympic gold and nuclear warheads" (s. Kennedy) .. hit where they can, because it’s weak for them in power ..
      but all this does not remove Mutko’s guilt “every mistake should have a name” (s, Stalin)
      1. +2
        8 December 2017 07: 23
        The problem is that Rodchenkova put WADA and Rus can not do anything
        1. +12
          8 December 2017 07: 40
          yah? it’s easy to close a criminal offense for narcotics .. it’s just that it was profitable .. they themselves admitted, and now we lower our eyes down - it’s not my fault
          lenta.ru/articles/2017/12/06/guilty read, very interesting
          1. +20
            8 December 2017 08: 24
            Mutko: No need to raise the issue of my resignation
            It is necessary, Vitaly! Need to!!!
            Since Mutko is already out of date! Fat! His brains are sour! In functional terms, he did not move much - and “overlooked” Rodchenkov!
            In general, in politics Mutko proved to be a "vegetable"!
            And Zhukov to him for the company - also retired - for agreeing with the discriminatory policies of the IOC and WADA in relation to Russia!
            1. +9
              8 December 2017 08: 29
              Quote: Tatiana
              It is necessary, Vitaly! Need to!!!

              In theory, he himself should shower Putin with resignations, I won’t talk about hara-kiri, so be it ....
              1. +2
                8 December 2017 08: 33
                tomket
                In theory, he himself should shower Putin with resignations
                Ha! Who from such a SWEET place - in market relations - voluntarily resigns ?!
                To remove from a post by a strong-willed decision of the higher authorities - and all!
                1. +4
                  8 December 2017 08: 38
                  Мcan you
                  Уtake,
                  Тonly
                  Кthat
                  Оwill be! laughing
                  1. +10
                    8 December 2017 08: 40
                    SRC P-15
                    You can remove. Only Who Remains! laughing

                    Do not regret either Mutko nor Zhukov! Both resign! Out of date! Do not cope with their duties!
                    Mutko overlooked Rodchenkova! Zhukov, in fact, is engaged in conciliation with the USA and the Collective West on discrimination against Russia in international sports!
                    And in their place put athletes whom the Americans unfairly deprived of the Olympic awards and who have experienced discrimination of Russian sports on the part of US marketers and the Collective West in the international arena in their personal life experiences!
                    1. +1
                      8 December 2017 08: 48
                      Quote: Tatiana
                      And in their place to put athletes

                      Yes, right now! And who will go to the thought?
                      No one Mutko replace. In its place, man.
                      In general, the name of the product "test tubes" to replace the laconic "muddy."
                      1. +1
                        8 December 2017 08: 54
                        insular
                        No one Mutko replace. In its place, man.

                        Whatever the case !!! And why then Mutko over the past year, Russia's interests just so profiled? If he is in his own place?
                      2. +5
                        8 December 2017 11: 02
                        Quote: insular
                        No one Mutko replace. In its place, man.

                    2. +2
                      8 December 2017 09: 32
                      Quote: Tatiana
                      And why then Mutko over the past year, Russia's interests just so profiled? If he is in his own place?

                      Is that a reason?

                      Well, you understand ...
                      1. +4
                        8 December 2017 10: 45
                        Quote: insular
                        Well, you understand ...

                        This poem was written by a nurse at the Lotoshinsky Central District Hospital. ..

                        I throw a stone at your garden

                        In beautiful ties dumb mutt!

                        Why don’t you love people so much

                        Feeding your righteous assholes?

                        Who am I? I am an ordinary nurse.

                        I live, I feed children on 10.300.

                        And there is no longer hope for Christ.

                        More and more often I remember the Communists ...

                        Teacher, doctor - there is pride and honor ...

                        The leader of the plant is honor and glory.

                        And the resort is healing every year

                        The country sent its workers.

                        And I'm sitting and crying. How do i live?

                        I am not a lazy person, I am a citizen of Russia!

                        I teach children to love my homeland,

                        But here for what - they cannot explain to them ...

                        My father did not live up to retirement ...

                        He fed his family, could not stand the load ...

                        And I always paid to the pension fund!

                        Where is his money? To children? Fuck those Russian!

                        And mother, having survived two heart attacks,

                        She taught children our Russian speech,

                        As a result, a cookie with butter received ...

                        Why does the state cripple us so?

                        Holy and Naked Our people

                        Donates a penny to children for salvation,

                        And the father on a jeep shakes past,

                        Wishing everyone universal patience.

                        The daughter wants to sing and dance

                        Studying at school for one five ...

                        But what can a medical mom give her?

                        Once a month, meat ... How bitter it is!

                        A mighty, great country

                        You are an unshakable power ...

                        So why don't you value a damn

                        Ordinary people who created your glory?

                        Source: https://publizist.ru/blogs/110832/21794/-
                  2. +3
                    8 December 2017 08: 49
                    Quote: SRC P-15
                    Мcan you
                    Уtake,
                    Тonly
                    Кthat
                    Оwill be! laughing

                    Give Medvedev! He is skiing "sick" knows how to ride).
                  3. +1
                    8 December 2017 09: 26
                    The notorious "personnel policy" of Putin ?!
                    Quote: SRC P-15
                    Мcan you
                    Уtake,
                    Тonly
                    Кthat
                    Оwill be! laughing
                    1. +1
                      8 December 2017 09: 42
                      Quote: 210ox
                      The notorious "personnel policy" of Putin ?!

                      Sometimes it seems to me that they are everywhere.

                2. +7
                  8 December 2017 09: 03
                  He was required to turn him off from the Olympics in Canada, but no, he received government awards.
                3. +2
                  8 December 2017 09: 31
                  Quote: Tatiana
                  Ha! Who from such a SWEET place - in market relations - voluntarily resigns ?!
                  To remove from a post by a strong-willed decision of the higher authorities - and all!

                  Ah, yes)))) And then he will repent, like Ulyukaev, shed tears of crocodiles, and say that how he did little for the people)))) We have already seen all this ....
            2. +4
              8 December 2017 09: 25
              Tatyana, good afternoon .. Resignation for them is not an option ... But I think that they need to pay out of their pocket the moral and material damage caused to our state by these types ..
              Quote: Tatiana
              Mutko: No need to raise the issue of my resignation
              It is necessary, Vitaly! Need to!!!
              Since Mutko is already out of date! Fat! His brains are sour! In functional terms, he did not move much - and “overlooked” Rodchenkov!
              In general, in politics Mutko proved to be a "vegetable"!
              And Zhukov to him for the company - also retired - for agreeing with the discriminatory policies of the IOC and WADA in relation to Russia!
            3. +2
              8 December 2017 11: 02
              Quote: Tatiana
              In general, in politics Mutko proved to be a "vegetable"!
              And Zhukov to him for the company - also resigned - for agreement

              What do you want from them? Take any representative of the "team" of PVA, I repeat anyone, are they better or worse?
              For 27 years we have been living in a country where everything is bought and sold, including posts.
              Mutko-member of the president’s team, that’s it!
            4. 0
              9 December 2017 17: 42
              In general, in politics Mutko proved to be a "vegetable"!
              And Zhukov to him for the company - also retired - for agreeing with the discriminatory policies of the IOC and WADA in relation to Russia!

              Well, what are they, they can do nothing but drive with their hands. And that served quickly end.
        2. +6
          8 December 2017 07: 41
          Mutko is a lightning rod, an extreme one in the problematic, obviously losing sector at the moment. Such were Kiriyenko and Fradkov as prime minister, Serdyukov as min. Defense. Perform its role as a pear for whipping and go on an honorable break.
          1. +5
            8 December 2017 07: 55
            Quote: Thrall
            Perform its role as a pear for whipping and go on an honorable break.

            That's right . With such a roof, a sinecure will be prescribed to him, although even now he is not particularly tense. Self-respecting organized crime groups do not give up.
            1. +6
              8 December 2017 07: 57
              Quote: iliitch
              With such a roof, I will write him a sinecure

              Let Mutko work as a translator, he knows English perfectly.
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              2. +4
                8 December 2017 09: 06


                yes Mutko aptitude in foreign languages ​​confirmed laughing
                100%:
                ay m spike from my hart
                fellow
                with Porosenko, one teacher was like ...
                but pigs did much better.
            2. +3
              8 December 2017 08: 38
              This is not an organized criminal group, but an organized criminal group with international criminal ties.
            3. +5
              8 December 2017 08: 59
              Quote: iliitch
              That's right . With such a roof, a sinecure will be prescribed to him, although even now he is not particularly tense. Self-respecting organized crime groups do not give up.

              Namely, those who called for Mutko’s voluntary resignation would recall who of Putin’s voluntarily left — this is not accepted at all in the current system. Those who were ready to bear personal responsibility have long since left themselves. “We need not smart, but faithful” - this is the motto of the Putin vertical! Therefore, Mutko himself will not go anywhere, there is no need to rock the boat, stability is paramount!
        3. +3
          8 December 2017 07: 43
          Quote: asv96
          The problem is that Rodchenkova put WADA and Rus can not do anything

          Why can't it? Just someone doesn't want nothing to do. And these "someone" are well known. Here is one of them is already making excuses.
        4. +4
          8 December 2017 08: 36
          Quote: asv96
          The problem is that Rodchenkova put WADA and Rus can not do anything

          Or maybe it was different, the weather was beautiful. was the princess terrible? The tsrules caught or framed and caught on the trade in anabolics, then they made an offer to Radchenkov, which he did not refuse. I'm interested in something else, where are the actions in relation to those who Radchenkova should have controlled. And in general, 700 thousand rubles a month salary and go on a betrayal for the foggy prospect of getting an American patchport? Well, this must be a complete moron.
        5. +1
          8 December 2017 09: 09
          Rodchenko lived in the Russian Federation, walked along its streets, drove a car in compliance with traffic regulations, used electricity, hot and cold water, gas, drained waste products, used parking lots and another 2 million different actions related to human-state relations.
          Explain how everything is done? Ali think of yourself?

          If there was a man - there is an article!
          (A joke from the "pink childhood" of the NKVD)
        6. +1
          8 December 2017 09: 31
          All sporting ladies resign with the removal of state subsidies
        7. +2
          8 December 2017 12: 40
          Rodchenkova delivered not WADA, but the Ministry of Sports of the Russian Federation. The Anti-Doping Center, (the laboratory led by Rodchenkov), by its legal status was the Federal State Unitary Enterprise, that is, the federal state unitary enterprise, the head of which was appointed by the Ministry of Sports of the Russian Federation.
          So "there is nothing to blame for the mirror, if the mug is crooked."
      2. +21
        8 December 2017 07: 30
        Mr. Mutko - just finished Mudko! negative
        1. +1
          8 December 2017 15: 19
          Pour Forcibly! laughing laughing laughing
          1. +1
            8 December 2017 20: 10
            Quote: ALEX_SHTURMAN
            Pour Forcibly! laughing laughing laughing

            and smell meldonium
      3. dSK
        +2
        8 December 2017 07: 38
        Quote: dik-nsk
        must be a name

        Hello Dmitry! Vladimir Vladimirovich, traditionally before the election, shakes Cabinet of Ministers. And this time is not far off. hi
        1. +2
          8 December 2017 07: 41
          hi welcome! Your words to God (and GDP) in the ears)))
      4. +1
        8 December 2017 12: 31
        "this is another sanction, the charges are unproven, but! not unfounded .." Sorry, but this is stupid. Have you read the source documents? Are you familiar with the rules of sports law? Have you read Schmid’s speech at a meeting of the IOC Executive Committee?
        You will find the WADA annual reports for all years after 2010. For many years Russia has been the undisputed leader in the dirty business of using illegal drugs.

        It is stupid to declare the allegations unproven.
    2. +2
      8 December 2017 09: 16
      If Russia will not be at the Olympics, I will not watch. And even more so worry about those athletes from Russia who will appear under the faceless flag.
    3. +5
      8 December 2017 09: 47
      Nobody will resign him. Is Mudko the first to mess around? No, he did this in almost every position he held. But since he is not holding on to his mother’s skirt, but to his “pants”, nothing will happen this time either.
    4. +2
      8 December 2017 09: 54
      With us, the head of the administration was kicked out of the office. He poor feet rested, clasped his hands around the table. Several people picked him up. The person stuck to the place for 20 years, they ate tore.
    5. +1
      8 December 2017 10: 27
      You must Fedya, you must! And with him and his boss under the ass knee. am
    6. +3
      8 December 2017 10: 35
      Quote: Scoun
      Do not cling to the position as for my mother’s skirt, I’ve grown up already.

      It’s necessary to kick kicks for a long time ... but they don’t drive, but feed the people with explanations that the kapets are needed and useful for Russian sports, although the athletes and the trainer themselves have often said the opposite.
    7. +3
      8 December 2017 11: 11
      He is right, do not resign. For all the damage he has done to Russia's reputation, he must be judged.
    8. 0
      8 December 2017 11: 56
      Quote: Scoun
      Mr. Mutko, how is it not necessary?

      Mr. Mutko asked reporters not to raise the issue of his resignation. So ... Don’t pick it up, that's all

      It is necessary (censored), it is necessary!
      PS.
      No need to shoot and drink poison, apologize, admit that you could not cope and dismiss Mr.!
      Do not cling to the position as for my mother’s skirt, I’ve grown up already.

      What does it mean to “quit”, and who will be responsible for the collapse of sports in Russia, for the theft of money allocated for sports. Today there are more officials in sports than athletes and every bureaucrat receives far from a small salary; they, like parasites, have sucked and plundered. Mutko is one of the creators of this system and must answer before the court.
    9. +1
      8 December 2017 12: 57
      It is necessary to raise the question of his punishment, by hanging. laughing
    10. 0
      8 December 2017 14: 22
      IOC disqualified Mutko for life as part of the Russian accusation of creating and implementing a state sports doping program. Therefore, Mutko is right in this case, and he cannot be resigned: it will be regarded and filed in the West as a recognition of the fairness of the accusations against Russia and Russian sports. Mutku may not deserve love and respect, this is a personal matter, but do not fall into stupidity.
  2. +7
    8 December 2017 07: 03
    I am at any moment ... if it is to the benefit of someone it will be and is necessary.


    smile Here is a pervert ... well, you can’t say that in a popular way.
    It seems that a person has no brains and he does not understand how his phrases look.
    1. +5
      8 December 2017 07: 13
      Quote: The same Lech
      I am at any moment ... if it is to the benefit of someone it will be and is necessary.


      smile Here is a pervert ... well, you can’t say that in a popular way.
      It seems that a person has no brains and he does not understand how his phrases look.

      As the comrade wrote below, mutko spiking frome hir hartt and biliv in yor great fucher.
      1. +3
        8 December 2017 07: 29
        Quote: Scoun
        Mutko spiking frome heart t and biliv in yor great fucher

        It seems, MuDko, thinks not with brain, but with his own step as.
    2. +6
      8 December 2017 07: 36
      Quote: The same Lech
      I am at any moment ... if it is to the benefit of someone it will be and is necessary.


      smile Here is a pervert ... well, you can’t say that in a popular way.
      It seems that a person has no brains and he does not understand how his phrases look.

      Brains that is - no conscience. After Vancouver, he had to get down. Usmanov - well done, though Kadyrov made laugh with his statement that after this decision no Chechen would go to Korea to go to the OI. I don’t remember the Chechens in winter sports, although it’s nice. I’m sure that after this “swallowing” the situation will happen again in two years with the summer games.
      1. 0
        8 December 2017 08: 02
        Well, I didn’t see it [thumb] https://topwar.ru/uploads/posts/2017-
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    4. +1
      8 December 2017 09: 58
      Quote: The same Lech
      I am at any moment ... if it is to the benefit of someone it will be and is necessary.


      smile Here is a pervert ... well, you can’t say that in a popular way.
      It seems that a person has no brains and he does not understand how his phrases look.

      Klitschko wrote his speech, it seems
    5. +5
      8 December 2017 10: 37
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      Here is a pervert ... well, you can’t say that in a popular way.
      It seems that a person has no brains and he does not understand how his phrases look.

      He is not a pervert, but a burnt bureaucrat, clinging to his chair like a tick. At the same time creating the appearance of violent activity.
  3. +4
    8 December 2017 07: 03
    From In May Hartt!
    1. +6
      8 December 2017 07: 51
      Quote: Theodore
      From In May Hartt!

      Do not swear, express your thoughts in Russian. What a pancake for fashion, blurted out the Englishman, sort of like "he seemed cool." I generally studied German at school. Write something then in Hebrew, the local "God-chosen ones" will be happy.
      1. +11
        8 December 2017 08: 11
        Quote: Orionvit
        Do not swear, express your thoughts in Russian

        So Theodore simply repeated. Here is the original. Mutko’s pronunciation is just a fox.

        Don’t watch the subtitles, they were also written by some stupid person.
        1. +7
          8 December 2017 08: 38
          Quote: Zibelew
          So Theodore simply repeated. Here is the original. Mutko’s pronunciation is just a fox.

          Yes, it’s not the pronunciation of the comrade !!! Russian language -
          international language
          (such as English and French) .... and Mr. Mutko should have been able to speak Russian with dignity .... I have no idea whatsoever, for example, a Frenchman ... but at least at the UN, I spoke in English. Mr. Mutko was fooling and doing lizing, but could speak with Dignity and Respect for the Russian language and not cuddle in front of English.
        2. +2
          8 December 2017 08: 39
          Quote: Zibelew
          So Theodore simply repeated. Here is the original

          Thank you It is nice to get an exhaustive answer from an adequate person. But Fedor, instead of “throwing show-offs,” all he had to do was throw a link for everything, with the corresponding comments. How did you do it. And the video is really downhole. lol
          1. 0
            8 December 2017 18: 01
            Clever understood!
        3. +4
          8 December 2017 09: 18
          This murky disgrace posted below smile
          when I heard it for the first time ... I almost burned out of shame. It's a shame for Russia that such brainless logs represent it in the world.
          It means that the circle of the moon is to match his boss, if no one saw how shameful it looks - he rehearsed after all ... 100%
        4. 0
          8 December 2017 10: 48
          Stupid speech content. The last two sentences are not clear, some kind of mess. Why did you lie that his English would soon be excellent.
          Shameful performance.
  4. +18
    8 December 2017 07: 07
    The Olympics is a business. Many "athletes-patriots", as Yolanda Chen calls them, will not only refuse the Russian flag to participate in this show, but are also ready to change their homeland. Some became, for example, Koreans.
    Business, nothing personal.
    Patriotism here is only financial. Salvage rules this ball.
    For Yolanda Chen and the like, the Motherland is where the loot is.

    I will not watch this crap on TV. There is no one to root for.
    1. +3
      8 December 2017 09: 52
      But they just forgot who pays them the loot, all these Olympic scholarships, frantic contracts from budget funds, etc. They would have closed the tap, would have immediately remembered the Motherland. However, no way down, the same athletes still in the EdR in the State Duma and lower-ranking thoughts sit
  5. +14
    8 December 2017 07: 08
    Firstly, if you are a man, then admit your shoals, your cowardice, gentleness, inability to lead from the word in general, and resign yourself! !! Secondly, it is purely my opinion that an athlete who went under the wrong flag at this Olympiad simply betrayed and sold Russia, and we don’t need medals from the sale of the country! ! The Russian team must boycott the Olympics, Putin must immediately dismiss Mudko and Zhukov, appoint an adequate replacement for them, and instead of the World Cup, hold goodwill in the country, blocking access to any functionaries like Wada and Mok!
    1. +11
      8 December 2017 07: 13
      Quote: Herkulesich
      Putin must immediately dismiss Mudko and Zhukov

      They themselves will not leave! Life was too sweet in sports! Another stool!
      1. +3
        8 December 2017 07: 41
        Volodya, hello! hi
        Quote from Uncle Lee
        They themselves will not leave!

        1. +5
          8 December 2017 07: 50
          Hello max! hi And their name is LEGION!
          1. +4
            8 December 2017 07: 52
            Unfortunately, this is the case. For such a feeder, those who wish are unmeasured.
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  7. +6
    8 December 2017 07: 19
    Well, as they say, if an official fails to manage one organization, then you need to punish him .... and transfer to work on the collapse of another still successful organization. wassat
  8. +12
    8 December 2017 07: 27
    Mutko: No need to raise the issue of my resignation

    I read it, I thought ... wouldn’t it be gone? Yeah dreaming silly !!! belay
    1. +2
      8 December 2017 08: 48
      fellow drinks
      My kitten's name is Masyanya)
      And then there’s a close comment ...
      love
      1. +4
        8 December 2017 08: 52
        Quote: SklochPensioner
        My kitten's name is Masyanya)

        I like it too... wink love
  9. +5
    8 December 2017 07: 28
    Mr. Mutko asked reporters not to raise the issue of his resignation.

    Well, well, voluntarily break away from the "feeder" ....
  10. +6
    8 December 2017 07: 29
    I am at any time ... if it is to the benefit of someone it will and should
    Well, right Chernomyrdin on the formulation of thought. Therefore, in sports the same "set of words", which can be understood only after the bottle.
  11. +6
    8 December 2017 07: 30
    That's right, you don’t need to raise questions about dismissal, it’s high time to raise questions about the investigation and the landing, and better about the tower. Well, to paraphrase a well-known joke:
    - Mutko, wake up, you crap!
    - But I did not sleep.
  12. +10
    8 December 2017 07: 30
    The common problem of the Russian government is unprincipled, unprofessional, incompetent and ... deadlock for the feeding trough.
  13. +9
    8 December 2017 07: 31
    Mutko. That's really Mutko laughing This is not a surname. This is karma! wassat
  14. +4
    8 December 2017 07: 31
    Damn, this cattle also rests?
  15. +4
    8 December 2017 07: 31
    Quote: Herkulesich
    if you are a man, then ...

    Well you want a lot. The official, by definition, is not a man, but it, set to solve state (regional, district) issues for a reason.
  16. +4
    8 December 2017 07: 51
    Mutko speaks with a clear and concise understanding of the matter. He was appointed to this post not for raising sports, his task is to successfully absorb budget funds and sharing with those who put him there and he successfully copes with this) he says this: I’m on you * for whom it is necessary for him to cope successfully in his position, ask GDP in a straight line wink
  17. +3
    8 December 2017 07: 51
    Our officials and the word honor are incompatible concepts!
    I understand that pawns! I understand that the pieces are moved by the main chess player ... it's disgusting to look at it.
    The retinue is supposed to "make" the king !!! Natural question - Is the king Naked? -
    Such an answer - And who, besides him? - may become completely unconvincing.
    Moreover, the fact that many of the charges against athletes and sports organizations do not have real evidence are fading into the background !!! The reputation of our officials, indirectly by the country, is lower than the plinth ... and they themselves "tried" and external influence takes place ....
    You can talk a lot, different. in the end, it will turn out anyway - Until the country becomes strong in all respects, until it creates for itself a “support group”, playing by the rules of others will doom itself to defeat in advance.
    Question - And what kind of king do we need? -, and here in the search for an answer, we can just rock the boat .... which is what our foreign "partners" actually sought.
    Right, wrong ... I think so ...
  18. +1
    8 December 2017 08: 04
    Who promoted it? If Himself, then everything will continue in Mutko’s chocolate.
  19. +3
    8 December 2017 08: 10
    it’s nothing to do with it. Putin’s time to retire. His possibly useful resource has already been worked out. It will only get worse
  20. 0
    8 December 2017 08: 15
    Well, let them all, when ours fly, stand in line at the plane’s gangway, take off their hats, bow down and apologize to the athletes in unison, and then vengeance stadiums to the janitors! The whole crowd, until all the lost is returned to us. And then there will be respect, understanding and order. Lesson for the future.
  21. +4
    8 December 2017 08: 17
    You know me a hundred years. I am at any moment ... if it is to the benefit of someone it will be and is necessary. Who says I see too
    If you do not take into account that the speech comes from Mutko, then it is very similar to the style of V. Klitschko!
  22. +1
    8 December 2017 08: 29
    Mudko - he is so mumbo
  23. +2
    8 December 2017 08: 33
    What are the honest eyes of this "gentleman-comrade-master" !!!)))
    And how does he speak English!)
    I’m not a spiteful person (albeit a squabble senior citizen)), but ... I HAVE BEEN REDUCED - GET AWAY SUCCESSFULLY, MYSELF!
  24. +1
    8 December 2017 08: 34
    Does anyone worry that after the first doping scandal, has everything somehow calmed down in Russia?
    It seems to me that not everything is so clean there and that preparations for the Olympics in Sochi were possible by any means, and not from the local officials, but from the very top, But this stuffed animal Rodchenkov knew everything but didn’t share with him (this is another version) for this we are all in place no one is fired and we apologize
    1. 0
      8 December 2017 09: 57
      I also think that there is no smoke without fire. After the liquid dealings in Vancouver, suddenly there was such a sharp jump in results in Sochi, despite the fact that outwardly nothing changed in the sport, there were no more sections, nothing.
  25. +3
    8 December 2017 08: 36
    "No need to raise the conversation about resignation." That's right, we need to start a criminal case and put Mr. Mutko in jail. That's just Putin will not do it. He washes his hand and jo ... scratches.
  26. 0
    8 December 2017 08: 37
    Well, you attacked a person. He was just busy studying English, working on pronunciation, studying grammar.
  27. +2
    8 December 2017 08: 42
    not raise his resignation

    Looks like a bread place, will not leave voluntarily
    1. +1
      8 December 2017 08: 56
      Quote: pvv113
      Looks like a bread place, do not voluntarily leave


      That's not the point: for him to take POST is the meaning of life, the main action. "For whom, for what? .." - the tenth question)
      1. +1
        8 December 2017 10: 54
        Quote: SklochPensioner
        That's not the point: for him to take POST is the meaning of life, the main action.

        Well, here, no matter what they say, the question of the origin of this organism and its personal qualities comes to the fore, yeah. Who in SA, at one time, did not think of service without bastards? Conscience ... no, it's not about him. We still mock, recalling his "leadership" in the "Zenith", yeah. A burnt videotape is a different story. Yes Well, not the point. The fact is that someone is covering his ass for this organism, although what is there to cover is all out.
  28. +2
    8 December 2017 08: 59
    And why not raise the question of your resignation, all the more, given the circumstances, you could harm Russia on purpose, from Russophobic considerations ?! The FSB should deal with you in general ...
    1. 0
      8 December 2017 10: 02
      Taki FSB? Already painfully respected he has a sidekick
    2. 0
      8 December 2017 10: 57
      The Cheka missed the collapse of the USSR, but here it’s kind of wise.
      1. 0
        8 December 2017 18: 16
        Yes, it's time to seriously engage the FSB of the Russian Federation with patriots of foreign states holding Russian citizenship ... They have long been becoming a problem in the Russian Federation ... In the United States, a person receiving US citizenship vows to defend the United States with weapons in his hands, including from his historical homeland, if this is a migrant ... I see no reason why it should be different in the Russian Federation ... Such as Sobchak should have been in prison for a long time, under Article 280 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation and, at a minimum, have a passport NOT a Citizen of the Russian Federation ...
  29. +4
    8 December 2017 09: 02
    Not, the main thing: how did you “bend” something: like, if it IS EXACTLY ASKED by ANYONE someone, then “yes”, type “I’ll leave”, and so, “low” ... “The inner circle” in all its “glory ".... sad
  30. +8
    8 December 2017 09: 04
    When a stupid student climbs a Swedish wall and falls on his head in a physical education lesson, the physical instructor is to blame. And here a whole country with 160 million people is not allowed to the Olympics - no one is to blame !!!!! Execution cannot be pardoned. In England, the Secretary of Defense "accidentally" put his hands on the woman’s knee 15 years ago - he resigned. The men were transferred in Russia.
    1. Ren
      +2
      8 December 2017 09: 19
      Quote: Rafaell
      The men were transferred in Russia.

      No, there is more. This is only in effective managers for some reason, mainly muddy all sorts. request
  31. +1
    8 December 2017 09: 08
    ... and first of all !!!
  32. +3
    8 December 2017 09: 12
    Cool! People who are against Medvedev, Nabiullina, Yesterday shouted against Ulyukaev. Today against Mutko and Zhukov. But as long as the great optimizer in power, who put all these people in power, no one will touch Mutko .. The genius of foreign policy has already framed all the athletes, saying that they can ride under the white flag.
  33. +1
    8 December 2017 09: 12
    This will not quit ... GDP does not give up ...
  34. Ren
    +3
    8 December 2017 09: 17
    Good man - Mutko will not be called!
    It was under the leadership of this Mutka that the Russian team began to have problems.
    Today this Mutka is 59 years old, but he hasn’t gained his mind.
  35. +2
    8 December 2017 09: 19
    Quote: Mutko
    No need to raise my resignation

    need to raise a question about criminal liability
  36. +1
    8 December 2017 09: 30
    Yes, do not shoot, but it is necessary to plant. And who covered Rodchenkova - to plant. A drug dealer with schizophrenia in such a position ....
  37. +2
    8 December 2017 09: 34
    Quote: Tatiana
    It is necessary, Vitaly! Need to!!!

    ------------------------
    I tweeted on this news and wrote a comment on the NTV tweet “Do you sit figs?”, Though in a more crude form of the word “figs”. On the other hand, Mutko is simply listed as “deputy prime minister,” but in fact he is simply from St. Petersburg, that is, from friends or friend of friends. Putin works as a friend of Putin, and therefore reacts in this way.
    1. +2
      8 December 2017 09: 56
      No need to disgrace the real Leningraders. Mutko not St. Petersburg, but from those who had come to Leningrad.
      1. 0
        8 December 2017 10: 53
        They used to be called limiters.
  38. +2
    8 December 2017 09: 35
    Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
    need to raise a question about criminal liability

    ----------------------
    Even the death penalty of him and Zhukov need to raise a question.
  39. +2
    8 December 2017 09: 35
    Putin does not surrender or dismiss.
    Medvedev is a prime example.
  40. +2
    8 December 2017 09: 37
    With such a roof, hell isn’t afraid. He’s kind of muddy.
  41. +2
    8 December 2017 09: 40
    I wonder what kind of sport Mudko was different. As for the question, it should not be raised, but put on the edge, that is, on the edge, and not in front of Mudko, because he is nothing but a sneak. The question must be put on the edge in front of Putin. Because it was Mudko’s dubious ties with Rodchenkov that allowed the West to raise a tantrum and, as a result, disgrace Russian sport.
  42. 0
    8 December 2017 10: 34
    Mutko: No need to raise the issue of my resignation

    I agree! You just have to resign.
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  44. 0
    8 December 2017 10: 50
    It’s a pity that many of the commentators scolded athletes in absentia, although no one had gone there yet.
    They train for years, live according to the regime, for the sake of these competitions. And they have the right to speak there.
    Moreover, they will perform (in case of a trip), under the Olympic flag (which, when brought in, everyone stands up greeting him) and an explanation that they are athletes from Russia.
    The excessive emotionality of those who are so "boiling" from the decision of the IOC regarding Russia is also puzzling.
    Firstly, for any sane person, including the West, it is clear that this is a political decision.
    Those. the Olympic movement inflicted serious damage on itself, the consequences of which will still come back to haunt.
    Secondly, the very spirit of the Olympic has long been lost, athletes perform in special shoes, on special coatings, on special simulators, in the comfortable conditions of indoor halls.
    The level of capabilities of the human body has been reached.
    Victory is measured in milliseconds and millimeters.
    That is why doping has developed.
    I don’t watch the Olympic Games myself for a long time, after Ben Johnson was disqualified in Seoul in 1988, I confine myself to an opening-closing ceremony.
  45. +1
    8 December 2017 10: 51
    Mudko will leave! To increase.
  46. 0
    8 December 2017 10: 56
    Yes, it’s time for you to go to jail together with Ulyukaev. Stayed there, neither shame nor conscience
  47. +1
    8 December 2017 11: 09
    A decent person in his place would have long since resigned and left beautifully. But this is MuDko ...
    1. +2
      8 December 2017 11: 54
      Quote: senima56
      A decent person in his place would have long since resigned and left beautifully. But this is MuDko ...

      You are all evil. crying What are attached to a sick person? A brain brain is a disease belay unfavorable prognosis request medicine is powerless. recourse
  48. +2
    8 December 2017 11: 10
    Mutko hike some kind of reservation))
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    1. +3
      8 December 2017 12: 09
      Of course, it’s not muddy ... but I want to see that the appointed official will do what he should, i.e. develop, if you need to protect our sport and athletes ???
      A simple such desire - The official must work and do what he is obligated to.
  50. 0
    8 December 2017 12: 10
    Anyone who “overlooked” Rodchenkov must be fired, c. including and those intelligence officers who oversaw all these issues ...
  51. 0
    8 December 2017 12: 21
    to the wall...
    1. +3
      8 December 2017 12: 33
      Those. We are carrying out an operation - Reincarnation of Comrade Beria -
      What kind of squeal will our liberal crowd raise... I think, not for long, if the operation is successful?
  52. +1
    8 December 2017 12: 48
    Alisher Usmanov's letter is not intended for the IOC. It is only addressed to the IOC, but is intended exclusively for internal use in Russia. For the IOC it makes no sense, since most of Usmanov’s arguments are simply meaningless. Like, for example, his reference to one of the principles of Roman law “no guilt - no punishment”. He forgot to mention that liability without fault exists even in Russian law. And collective responsibility in sports has always existed and exists today.
    The whole point is that Usmanov really wants to show his “patriotism”, they say, what a defender of clean athletes I am!
    And the actions and decisions of the IOC were expected and predictable, since the accusations were serious and irrefutable.
  53. +2
    8 December 2017 12: 54
    I haven't been here for more than two years. However, the resource is fading! This is exactly the case when grief is solely from the mind!))) You read a discussion of any topic... Well, definitely from the mind! Everyone knows everything - who to shoot, who to imprison. Not "Military Review", but a government in exile! Well, or a rally of pioneer activists and ardent Komsomol members from the series - party, let me steer!!!!! Of course, the situation with the Olympics is not good... Well, what did you want?! So that we annex Crimea every year?! That's life. It doesn't happen that way. Not pleasant, but not fatal either. In war, as in war. We will survive and respond. No need for hysterics, men. There are questions for Mutko and many others... And in general, the authorities should be criticized. But constructive criticism leads to improving the situation and correcting mistakes. Or do you think that if instead of Mutko we appoint someone who so “witty” in his surname replaces the letter T with D, the IOC will immediately kiss his hickey in the seat?! It's not even funny! And one more thing - those who lost everything, of course, can shed burning tears from morning to night that everything is lost! Well, there are such people. You won't deny the existence of a sufficient number of hysterical women as such, will you? Well, this is just a male version of this not very pleasant phenomenon. That's all. Meanwhile, significant funds are indeed allocated for sports, including mass sports, as well as for the army, by the way...) And we will survive this Olympics and forget it! And in general, as we know, Russia cannot be understood with the mind, cannot be measured by a common yardstick, and it is better not to touch it at all... This is troublesome.
    1. 0
      8 December 2017 13: 34
      I read your text. As I understand it, you admit the people’s right to constructive criticism, thank you for that too. But this is where the dog is flogged. For criticism to become constructive, you need to talk to people openly and honestly, give them complete and truthful information about what happened, and not wag your tail. First they tell us that there was no doping at the 2014 Olympics, and then our guarantor, with downcast eyes, admits that, yes, we gave a reason, which, translated from diplomatic into Russian, means that there was doping. Sure. that Putin personally did not give the order to use doping, but it was enough for him to complain to Mutko that somehow Russia had few medals, this was perceived as an instruction to action, which is typical for sycophants. At the first sign of sabotage against our sport by a German journalist, a chorus was heard from all voices about how perfect our anti-doping system is. But now they admit that there was a reason. What about the people? He's not a fool. He understands all this verbiage very well and, out of impotence, practices his wit. So you need to talk to people carefully.
    2. +1
      8 December 2017 18: 32
      Quote: Oper
      Meanwhile, significant funds are indeed allocated for sports, including mass sports, as well as for the army, by the way

      Yes it is. Just don’t confuse tasty with sticky.
      Quote: Oper
      This is exactly the case when grief is solely from the mind!))) You read a discussion of any topic... Well, definitely from the mind! Everyone knows everything - who to shoot, who to imprison. Not "Military Review", but a government in exile! Or a gathering of pioneer activists and ardent Komsomol members

      What a subtle analysis!
      Quote: Oper
      There are questions for Mutko and many others... And in general, the authorities should be criticized. But constructive criticism leads to improving the situation and correcting mistakes.

      This is how it happens, not everyone was brought up with tutors and went to a special school in limousines.
      Quote: Oper
      And in general, as we know, Russia cannot be understood with the mind, cannot be measured by a common yardstick, and it is better not to touch it at all... This is troublesome.

      Applause!!!
      What did you actually want to say? No need to be sad, no need to be sad? Yes, a lot of attention is paid to sports, but when comparing my Soviet school childhood, I cannot say that children’s sports have become more accessible. I don’t watch football or basketball, there’s no one to look at, they’re all smoked-up tourists-guest workers. Society, first of all, needs mass school sports, and not overly tanned millionaire athletes with unpronounceable surnames. The situation with Russia's exclusion from the Olympics is predictable, where are the actions half a step forward? Where are the organizational conclusions and, again, administrative decisions regarding the incompetent slobs who allowed Radchenko’s subversive actions, and even allowed him to leave the country with impunity? This is the subject of exchange of opinions. If there is no order and discipline, we will again slide into the 90s. So your grumbling is out of place. What is your particular constructive opinion?
      And in general, what exactly is considered doping? Meldonium? It improves nutrition of the heart muscle and is used in the treatment of heart disease. They were given to athletes to restore performance after heavy exercise, but these were not hormone-replacement drugs such as anabolic steroids. The corticosteroids that Norwegian female skiers took are doping; they boost performance for a short time. Amphetamine-like drugs are doping drugs because they dull sensitivity to overload and many professional athletes have died because of this. But the truth of life is that Western professional sports are all about doping. Pharmaceutical companies are constantly inventing new ones, and athletes are using them until tests are created. And so on in a circle. But meldonium does not harm the body, does not affect the psyche and does not wear out the body; it is the same harmless remedy as vitamins, in any case nothing more.
      The inaction of the Russian Olympic Committee is surprising, maybe they just got too greedy and don’t want to work?
  54. 0
    8 December 2017 13: 09
    The man has grown into his position. That says it all. And the fact that the output is 0 from his work does not bother him.
  55. 0
    8 December 2017 13: 12
    Yes, he’s a real Jamesbond. I looked at the wiki and a tear rolled down the wrinkles into unshaven hair.
    “In 1999, while holding the position of president of FC Zenit, he graduated from St. Petersburg State University in absentia without interruption from work. He defended his diploma on the topic: “Official crimes on the example of sporting events.” Just "asleep".
    You'll catch such a crucian carp.
    I propose to introduce a noun into the Russian Language. muddy./a bit of honor, so to speak, but it’s not an ordinary event/
    Example /from the explanatory dictionary/:
    In kindergarten:
    -Vitalik, are you muddy?
    -Yes, I screwed myself up, but there is no need to raise the question.
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  57. 0
    8 December 2017 14: 11
    EVERYONE lied... they lied... and "waved" to the West (they say we will go without a flag and anthem) - go...
  58. 0
    8 December 2017 14: 15
    Quote: mikh-korsakov
    I read your text. As I understand it, you admit the people’s right to constructive criticism, thank you for that too. But this is where the dog is flogged. For criticism to become constructive, you need to talk to people openly and honestly, give them complete and truthful information about what happened, and not wag your tail. First they tell us that there was no doping at the 2014 Olympics, and then our guarantor, with downcast eyes, admits that, yes, we gave a reason, which, translated from diplomatic into Russian, means that there was doping. Sure. that Putin personally did not give the order to use doping, but it was enough for him to complain to Mutko that somehow Russia had few medals, this was perceived as an instruction to action, which is typical for sycophants. At the first sign of sabotage against our sport by a German journalist, a chorus was heard from all voices about how perfect our anti-doping system is. But now they admit that there was a reason. What about the people? He's not a fool. He understands all this verbiage very well and, out of impotence, practices his wit. So you need to talk to people carefully.

    what kind of doping is this, what kind of CRIMEA are you talking about (everything is sewn with white thread)... WADA didn’t provide evidence of the STATE’s participation in the doping program? shove?..if of course we are talking about the LAW on the PRESUMPTION OF NOT GUILTY..which the liberal skank loves to refer to
    1. +1
      8 December 2017 14: 45
      Do you think that we really didn’t have doping during the 2014 Olympics? Then why did Putin essentially admit in his speech that we gave the reason, which means there was doping? And the fact that only we were caught for doping is definitely payment for Crimea - here you are right. You have seen the bodies of American gymnasts pumped with hormones - this is what they took for depression, you see. In conditions of war against us, any slightest mistake is blown up to enormous proportions and used to spread rot on us - this is understandable.
  59. +2
    8 December 2017 14: 15
    Someone wrote to the point about the ice ax. May God find it and hit this stupid pumpkin....
  60. 0
    8 December 2017 14: 21
    IOC disqualified Mutko for life as part of the Russian accusation of creating and implementing a state sports doping program. Therefore, Mutko is right in this case, and he cannot be resigned: it will be regarded and filed in the West as a recognition of the fairness of the accusations against Russia and Russian sports. Mutku may not deserve love and respect, this is a personal matter, but do not fall into stupidity.
  61. 0
    8 December 2017 14: 23
    Quote: av58
    The IOC banned Mutko for life as part of Russia's accusations of creating and implementing a state sports doping program. Therefore, Mutko is right in this case, and he cannot be resigned: this will be regarded and presented in the West as recognition of the justice of the accusations against Russia and Russian sports. Mutko may not deserve love and respect, this is a personal matter, but there is no need to fall into stupidity.

    and we have already fallen (into stupidity) - having “gone dry” and deciding to go without a flag and an anthem... this is tantamount to confessing and begging... which is NOT stupid?
  62. +3
    8 December 2017 14: 33
    Shoot him with rotten bullets and shut up this Mutko. Both in English and Russian......Moron
    1. 0
      8 December 2017 16: 13
      Friend....if a friend suddenly turns out to be.....see. higher. It’s better not to look, it’s dangerous to raise the tower - suddenly “what’s wrong.....”
  63. +1
    8 December 2017 14: 37
    There are no words, I thought at least a little bit, a person has a conscience and dignity. Of course I grabbed the feeder and that’s it.........
    1. 0
      8 December 2017 15: 41
      Yes, the dog is with him, a figure... against the background of a figure that announces performances under the Olympic flag. What can I say. Theoretically, it should be the same. all teams, because that’s how it was from the very beginning. Well, in practice, they represent the country (remember the Olympics at Mr. Hitler’s). So think about it. Maybe GDP is right.
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  65. 0
    8 December 2017 15: 08
    This Ukrainian joke is MuDDko: Petro: “Mykola, I’ll go shoot in the Forest of Muscovites.”..
    Mykola: “What if they get you”?! Petro: "Tyu, and for me for SHO"??? laughing laughing laughing
    With the Americans, it’s all so clear, It’s frustrating that the supreme one hasn’t said a word about the responsibility of our bureaucrats!..
  66. 0
    8 December 2017 16: 14
    Give him a pistol with one cartridge and if he has honor, then let him shoot himself! Not a single flattering word addressed to him from the athletes! This probably says something?! So Mr. Mudko is better off in a good, healthy way!
  67. 0
    8 December 2017 17: 23
    “Let us not (raise) this issue now, there is someone there to make these decisions. You have known me for a hundred years. I am at any moment... if it is for the benefit of someone and is needed. Whoever speaks, I also see. “- of course it’s not necessary yet, he’s like not all the money yet .................. laughing
  68. +1
    8 December 2017 18: 43
    Well, in addition to Mutko, there is also the head of the Russian OKR, Mr. Zhukov. This one, I don’t even know what to call him - so as not to be banned, he also apologized to the IOC. That is, they really stirred it all up and knew about everything and stupidly set up the athletes, and now they are also trying to blame it all on someone else. Damn, aren’t there a couple of adequate people among athletes and they don’t blame characters like this?
  69. 0
    8 December 2017 18: 50
    It’s not like you’re going to jail, you’re going to Kolyma! and drunk Zhukov there too.
  70. 0
    8 December 2017 21: 23
    The man found himself in a difficult situation. I don’t dare condemn his activities, but a boss of such a high rank should have organized effective control over all areas of Olympic activity, from which one could receive unpleasant and unexpected “gifts” for the Olympians.
  71. 0
    8 December 2017 23: 20
    Quote: mikh-korsakov
    Do you think that we really didn’t have doping during the 2014 Olympics? Then why did Putin essentially admit in his speech that we gave the reason, which means there was doping? And the fact that only we were caught for doping is definitely payment for Crimea - here you are right. You have seen the bodies of American gymnasts pumped with hormones - this is what they took for depression, you see. In conditions of war against us, any slightest mistake is blown up to enormous proportions and used to spread rot on us - this is understandable.

    I believe (I’ll tell you a secret))) that the entire professional sport (not only in Russia but everywhere).. has been EATING something for a long time... BUT this is what I think (as you understand, NOT the last authority of which is the COURT and the evidence base) .. but there is NO EVIDENCE of the involvement of the Russian state in the doping scandal... so draw your own conclusions, dear
  72. 0
    8 December 2017 23: 22
    Quote: mikh-korsakov
    Do you think that we really didn’t have doping during the 2014 Olympics? Then why did Putin essentially admit in his speech that we gave the reason, which means there was doping? And the fact that only we were caught for doping is definitely payment for Crimea - here you are right. You have seen the bodies of American gymnasts pumped with hormones - this is what they took for depression, you see. In conditions of war against us, any slightest mistake is blown up to enormous proportions and used to spread rot on us - this is understandable.

    I see and you agree with this (I have now finished reading your post)
  73. 0
    8 December 2017 23: 29
    Quote: earloop
    The man found himself in a difficult situation. I don’t dare condemn his activities, but a boss of such a high rank should have organized effective control over all areas of Olympic activity, from which one could receive unpleasant and unexpected “gifts” for the Olympians.

    “Your only fault is that I want to eat” - Krylov’s phrase was said a long time ago, but it’s relevant... that is, they STILL would have found something (without options)
  74. 0
    9 December 2017 17: 25
    They raised the question of resignation, the next one will be about imprisonment!
  75. 0
    9 December 2017 18: 38
    It's necessary, Fedya! Necessary!!!
    The question is not about resignation. Question about exile to Wrangel Island as a GTO instructor for polar bears.... Without the right to return.
  76. 0
    9 December 2017 20: 15
    For this statement alone, Mutko should be expelled from office without the right to work in state and municipal positions. It is necessary for “some” nomenklatura pimple to indicate to the Fourth Estate what and how to do. The mere existence of the position of Deputy Prime Minister for Sports indicates that Russia cannot be trusted and government intervention in the doping scandal is possible. (what kind of inter-industry problems this vice solves). And here is also a clear demonstration that the executive branch can interfere anywhere and in any way. If Putin does not immediately throw out this, to put it mildly, not very smart and decent person, then we need to think carefully about how to vote in the elections.
  77. 0
    9 December 2017 21: 03
    Oh really? I fucked it all up and now “Don’t pick it up!”? For this they used to burn at the stake.
  78. +2
    10 December 2017 14: 59
    ))))) I read it... And realized that I was mistaken! To the pioneers, Komsomol members and the government in exile, it is simply necessary to add the fiery revolutionaries who have thoroughly registered here! It’s funny to read about the memories of a bright sports Soviet childhood contrasted with today’s migrant workers from sports! I also remember how ashamed I was once to go home from school with my skis broken in physical education class. I knew that my father already worked so hard, and now these skis... I can also remember that in our Moscow yard only one kid had a soccer ball. And when he was punished for something and wasn’t allowed to go out, we didn’t play football. His parents didn’t give us the ball. Well, God bless him with his Soviet past. There were a lot of good things too. And the trees were big back then and the grass was greener!) It’s even funnier to read a comment from an adult who seems like a man that Putin is sooooo cunning and didn’t directly give commands to use doping, but only looked at Mutko so carefully... And even more carefully ... - we don’t have enough medals, brother Mutko, they say ... And brother Mutko instantly had an epiphany - DOPING!!!!!!)))))) But Mutko is also a cunning man and about a telepathic session with He didn’t spread himself about Putin, but also began to slyly walk here and there and look at everyone with squinting eyes... Well, here’s the result!!!!))))))) Tell me, is it possible to comment on such pearls?!))) Meaning my previous post is that there is no need to be hysterical! It's a shame, a shame - but okay! In war, as in war. What doping?! What are you about?! If they hadn’t injected us with this IOC, they would have hit us in another way. And no doubt they will hit you. And more than once again. This is still just the beginning! Or did you think that they would just wash themselves away with Crimea, Donbass and Syria?! There’s no need to climb onto an armored car - we’ve already climbed... We need to think about it. Calmly. What is this all for?! But just to sow confusion and uncertainty! So that, amid the cries of the all-wasters, wrong steps are taken leading to fatal consequences and to the disunity of the people! Of course it's a shame. Probably even very much so. But let's not be nervous. And smile, gentlemen!) Revenge is a dish that is served cold... To be continued. We wait.
    1. +3
      10 December 2017 16: 01
      For the current ones, “cut” as you like, it’s still impossible to describe the extreme depth of the current insanity!
      You will answer for blaming the union!
      A lot of things can be blamed on him, all sorts of things happened. BUT the children had a HAPPY CHILDHOOD... I can’t imagine how and where they had to get involved so as not to get into the system that organizes children’s and youth’s leisure. Even in the villages everything was the same, let alone in the city people say this... you are LYING, my friend!!!
      By the way, in our village there is a regional children's and youth sports school!!! what is there not in it!!! I remember her from childhood, and these are the times of the USSR!!!
      1. +2
        10 December 2017 17: 00
        )))) No need to be rude. Not pretty. You can even spit on the monitor. It's up to you to wipe it off. And about the blaming... I’m not blaming, but I’m saying what happened. And read more carefully what exactly I wrote and in what context if you decide to answer. But there is no need to stick out the union for any reason or topic without any reason or topic! For what? Do you need a political discussion? I don’t think this is a good time for your pathos. Although elections are coming soon. Unleash your abilities. Or have you already started doing this?
        1. +3
          10 December 2017 20: 36
          We won’t fall into suffering because of the union; that’s not my topic. What does it have to do with elections? We have capitalism, no matter who we choose, it will be so. and a “happy childhood” will be provided by the parents, depending on who you are.
          Whose sports equipment was broken? home or school?
          I don’t ask about sports schools, children’s clubs... there has always been a club at the house government, at the place of residence! and sports equipment! respectively, a sports ground and a yard team. Where is which one? There were options. Masters also emerged from the yard teams (later), we had 3 - football, tennis, swimming.
          That’s how I remember it, so excuse me, to believe that everything was “sour” for the children in conjunction with a happy sports childhood - no way!
          And now there are options - either you are offended by your sporting, unhappy childhood and at the same time by the entire union, in which only the trees were green...
          or they are generally offended.... then this is certainly not my topic.
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            11 December 2017 09: 23
            Let me try to explain it to you again. I wrote that it’s funny when talking about the current dominance of dark-skinned migrant workers in football to compare it with a happy Soviet childhood. In general, it is completely wrong to idealize the past, no matter how Soviet or imperial it was, and to see reality exclusively in a negative light. After the well-known events, I personally was ashamed to look at Zhukov and Smirnov. You definitely need to ask Mutko. Only in this case this is not the main thing. Suffering on the union is here in every discussion, both on business and without it. It would probably be advisable to create a separate topic so that other people can discuss something interesting for themselves without suffering. By the way, Mutko has been a member of the CPSU since 1980 and actively moved along this line in the city on the Neva... Now about children's sports in the USSR. In the South-West of Moscow, where I grew up, at one time I was at the housing office of the IC "Rovesnik". That's where we played football for about 2 years, I think. Then the coach disappeared somewhere, and with him the club. We played football on a playground not far from home. Our family was normal. Just like others. And like most boys, I didn’t have my own ball. As far as I remember, one of the guys was always in the yard. I can’t say that we were very upset because of this. Find something to do. Back at school we had some kind of theater group and even staged some plays. But I wasn't interested. And you shouldn’t worry about just the trees!))) I said what I said and you can’t imagine how far I am from making excuses. I am responsible for my words. But not in front of the topic, who initially does not want to hear the answer. I am not offended by the Union. This is my country in which I was born and raised. This country taught me, my parents were born in this country and my friends lived in it. I served as a conscript in the SA and haven’t taken off my shoulder straps since then. I don’t shed tears for the USSR because... I still live in my country. And I have something to be proud of. And this country was not born in 1917, it is much, much older! And I have been involved in sports all my life.)) Applied sports. This is the job.
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              11 December 2017 10: 08
              All clear. Accepted.
              Sorry for the collision. I’m not a fan of EVERYTHING Soviet, but for my “happy sports childhood” and for green trees alone I became overly excited.
              I remember that the trees really were green, in our arid region the city authorities were really RESPONSIBLE for all this... in the 90s almost the entire urban landscape was dried out.
              The authorities really cared about sports and creativity for teenage children.
              That’s how it was, the power of the Soviets, and for that I thank it very much.
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                11 December 2017 11: 49
                Well, that’s taken for a hit-and-run.) But the authorities were different. There are a lot of good things to remember. I don’t want to remember anything at all. Everything today, both good and bad, comes from the USSR in one way or another! A country is people first and foremost. But our generation, born and raised in the Union, is still in force. Well, there’s no point in blaming the mirror if your face is crooked! We know our advantages and will modestly keep silent about them because our sworn partners are well aware of them. But the shortcomings, of which there are also quite a few, and among which our well-known scourge, personnel issues, must be dealt with! After all, if we speak figuratively, we have always had plenty of communists who instantly turned into democrats, then into liberal democrats and then simply into liberals, and as you know, and it’s just a stone’s throw from Russophobia! Although in fairness it must be said that in any troubled times we had no shortage of mini-pozharskys, thank God! Well, this is how we live!)
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                  11 December 2017 13: 56
                  Unfortunately, those who remember will be fewer and fewer.
                  The new generation has been brought up according to different principles, no matter how hard we try, external influences, the habitat “blurs out” everything that was good in the USSR, and sticks out the bad excessively. You can/need to fight, but to win? very doubtful.
                  In principle, everything is clear. Those in power need this.
                  The option is to reconcile yourself, remain silent, or try to preserve at least in the memory of your heirs how it was.
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                    11 December 2017 14: 46
                    The past must be remembered and generally known. Without the past there is no future. And the future must live. By and large, in world history there has not been one truly socially just state formation. The USSR was not like that either. In fact, the construction of communism is a pseudo-religion with the same goal, only not achievements but the construction of paradise and not in heaven, but on earth! With all the accompanying rituals and attributes. I think it is generally impossible to achieve something like this on earth. This is a utopia. But the point is to strive for this and not destroy the old world to the ground, but really take with you all the good things that have been created! And our youth are not bad! We're just grumbling like old people.)
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                      11 December 2017 15: 07
                      A true pro-communist works next door to me! I’m well-read and savvy, but I can’t help it. So I am enlightened by the works of all theorists on this topic.
                      There is no use arguing with him. not because he is stubborn, but because he himself knows everything that can be presented to them and can explain it from a scientific point of view based on dates and facts!
                      The only slippery area for him. this is when you start to talk about everything based on the fact of an “empty refrigerator”... i.e. at the household level. The only thing he stopped arguing about was my conviction that society was simply not ready for such radical, progressive changes, it was not mature enough, so to speak.
                      But he actually wins all our liberal democrats (pot-bellied little things, youngsters) in disputes, fundamental, scientific knowledge is powerful.
                      True, it is unrealistic to convince an adult, albeit a young, liberal adherent, but with their “progressive” ideas they do not meddle in our sphere of influence!
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                        11 December 2017 16: 03
                        Without going into the fundamental nature of the classics of Marxism - Lenenism (I don’t know a single living person who would seriously read the complete collected works of the leader), I can say that society is not ready to say so on a global scale! More than 70 years is just a moment in the thousand-year history of our state. AND?! Who else?! Where? I think we’ll keep silent about Eastern Europe and Africa. Cuba? Now Zyuganov is telling us about China on all channels... Well, let’s be honest, it doesn’t look like socialism. Red flags can easily be replaced with any others. And the Chinese Communist Party also has a theory about 200 million progressive Chinese on whom the Communist Party is banking. Where are all the other hundreds of millions, excuse me?! Is this social justice?! I really want our progressive communists to somehow talk about Chinese pensioners. What are their pensions? And how much interest do they receive from Chinese pensioners? And how do the rest live?! Liberals are a different hypostasis in their ideology and path to achieving a bright future, very close to the communist one, but fixated on the imaginary freedom of everything and from everything and the accumulation and consumption of ever greater material wealth... With all the ensuing consequences, as they say. Remember the February revolution and October that logically followed it!

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